i do think king's prolificness (prolificity? prolificoshiousness?) has damaged his reputation in the long run; imagine if he'd stopped after Misery or IT.
― akm, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
therelationships and backstorieschaos and destruction at the end were the best part of IT actually
: )
Actually, my favorite parts are the historical digressions, which sure-as-shit aren't portrayed in the movie. Very much worth reading.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Prolificity FTW.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Over the 80s (the peak of his popularity and productivity drinking and coke use), he became much more inconsistent and defined by his most well-known stylistic tics
Christine is great, though, so I don't think I'd have it on your "bad" list. And I don't think you can include The Running Man or The Gunslinger into his good 80's output, at least in terms of crediting it against his stylistic behavior. The former was first published in 1982 but I believe he had had it in the can for some years; and the earliest parts of the The Gunslinger were written in 1978-1979.
I've still read all his output, but to me the last really good one, aside from a couple of the latter Dark Tower entries, was Insomnia, although the Deperation/The Regulators pair had its merits, as did From A Buick 8. Oh, and The Colorado Kid, that little novella he did for that pulp crime imprint.
― Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I've meant to back and finish up Desperation/Regulators, which I read a good chunk of some years back, before I got distracted by something shiny over there. Seemed promising.
And yeah, I know and agree, re: The first Dark Tower book (The Gunslinger) and The Running Man. Was just going by publication date. The Gunslinger was, I think, written earlier than any of the other books I mentioned -- while he was still in college, though likely significantly revised later -- and the style is unique. Much sparer and simpler than the prose he became known for, even a bit arty. I remember liking it quite a lot, though it's been years.
― contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link
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― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a pre-teen gangbang at the end of It?!?!?!
― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link
haha yes there is
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
well not literally the end, the end has one of the main characters riding down a hill with his driven-insane wife on the handlebars
This is still going for all you King fans out there:http://stephenking-reviewed.blogspot.com/
― Neil S, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
"We then follow Halleck as he begins to lose weight at a steady rate, journeying from 251 pounds to a skeletal 127 pounds. "
127 pounds, skeletal? Come on now.
― ledge, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
It's right before they go to battle IT. I guess it's supposed to be like a weird giving-up-your-innocence-in-order-to-battle-ultimate-evil ritual.
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link
it's pretty O_o, obviously
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Hard to imagine someone getting away with writing that these days.
― ledge, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:40 (fourteen years ago) link
oh man I forgot all about Cycle of the Werewolf
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
That one sounds fun. The author of that blog is a friend of mine, I've never had much time for King before but a few of his posts are making me consider giving him a go. Oh, and he gave me a copy of It recently!
― Neil S, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link
It is a ton of fun and a really quick read.
I think he's a little too harsh on Thinner but it's been more than 2 decades since I read that book.
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Will definitely be giving it a read soon, thanks.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:46 (fourteen years ago) link
I've always wanted to read the Stand, but the size is a bit intimidating (one 1400 page novel equals 3.5 400 page novels, how to choose). OTOH, I'm tired of Serious Stuff right now.
― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:47 (fourteen years ago) link
whats the one where the chick is tied to a bed with handcuffs for most of it? that was the scariest one, i think
― jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Gerald's Game
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
misery
― 'steen suicide (don't drive it) (s1ocki), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Dude, I'm pretty sure it's after they think they've killed It. They get lost in one of the tunnels after and Bev instinctually decides to let them run a train so they could regain their bearings. Didn't bother me when I first read the book in middle school but now, YOW.
Has King ever been forced to discuss/defend this in an interview?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
It's been a while since I've read the book, obviously. So maybe it's a way of bonding them all together? Or just King during one of his coked-up pervy moments?
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:02 (fourteen years ago) link
little from column a...little from column b
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
a lot from column "c" too if you catch my drift
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
yah latebloomer gerald's game. (lol slocki). book was terrifying h8 the idea of being so helpless
― jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
ha I thought GG was boring and actually was the one that made me stop reading him cold turkey
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
eyes of the dragon being put into a filler list is SB temptation
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link
My fave SK ever -- Eyes has all the good storytelling and none of the ethically quagmireish squick, as I recall, and a LOT of actually very memorable scenes, even if some slightly funny. Like the one with the tiny dollhouse loom and the room full of napkins....
― The Lion's Mane Jellyfish, pictured here with its only natural predator (Laurel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
it's pretty straight fantasy for king, and it's not my favourite, but i like it a lot. i like the tie-in to the dark tower, but i like those in any of his books that they appear in.
though it's maybe the opposite of the robert jordan situation- i sure wish he hadn't written the last three books of the dark tower, as they seemed hurried, rushed and frankly a big mess.
― Amateur Darraghmatics (darraghmac), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
A lot of King leaves me feeling like my brain needs a shower. I don't mind being scared but I don't want to feel soiled and made less "myself" by a book. Eyes is a good, gripping straight fantasy read with the characteristic SK pacing and characters and not so much jadedness. A++!
― The Lion's Mane Jellyfish, pictured here with its only natural predator (Laurel), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost I disliked most of Gerald's Game, but there's a scene toward the end, where the main character is escaping in the car but keeps believing there is someone is in the car with her in the backseat, about to attack, that I always think of when I'm driving alone at night. Even some of Stephen King's worst books have their effective moments.
― Sara R-C, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
You know, now that I think about it I think that Gerald's Game is the first book I ever put down without finishing.
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Whenever IT comes up in conversation, I always mention the WTF of the turtle and my wife always mentions the o_O of the preteen gangbang.
I keep meaning to do a little tour of the 70s novels but maybe a read of the novella/story collections would be the better option.
― discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Read 'Salem's Lot immediately, that book is fantastic.
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link
The Stand and The Shining are also awesome.
The earlier short story collections are amazing, too - Night Shift and Skeleton Crew.
― Sara R-C, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^ yes
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link
They're planning a big screen adaptation of It for 2011, apparently. Wonder if they'll readd the gangbang or the turtle (points to Dreamcatcher for actually including one of King's ridiculous Being Of Good Vs. Being Of Evil endings in a film)
the wikipedia description, for lols.
They finally come upon Its lair, where it resides in the form of a giant spider, and, in what appears to be the Ritual of Chüd, Bill injures It and It flees. Lost in the sewers, the Losers realize that they have lost their purpose as a group, their common enemy, and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
That wiki description is what made me ask originally - one of those situations where you have to read a sentence multiple times.
― ice cr?m paint job (milo z), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
trying to find an interview with king on google about "it" is damn hard
― da croupier, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
"Dreamcatcher" had the worst ending I have ever seen in a film.
this made me curious, so I looked it up:
[So, uh, SPOILER ALERT, then??] Henry and Owen arrive at the home of Duddits (Donnie Wahlberg), who reveals that Mr. Gray is headed for a reservoir to pollute the water with a Weasel. Arriving at the reservoir, Owen is ambushed by Curtis' helicopter. Owen shoots Curtis down, but dies from his wounds. Henry takes Owen's weapon and kills Mr. Gray's Weasel. Duddits confronts Mr. Gray, who finally comes out of Jonesy's body. Duddits turns into an alien creature himself and attacks, causing both aliens to explode in a cloud of red dust which briefly resembles a dreamcatcher. Jonesy, now back to normal, smashes a final larva that was about to contaminate the water. The world is saved.
ha ha, wut?
― Pillbox, Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
and as a way to bring them together again so they can escape, Beverly has sexual intercourse with the boys.
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
so many lols, so little time
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I am going to try this out next time I need to escape from something. I'll let you guys know how it works.
― A Foul Night-Weird (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Mr. Gray is headed for a reservoir to pollute the water with a Weasel.
Henry takes Owen's weapon and kills Mr. Gray's Weasel.
So, at the outset, Mr. Gray intends to pollute the water with a LIVING weasel?
Also LOL @ capitalization of weasel.
― discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
The "Weasel" is the alien thing that kills people by exploding out of their asses.
― nate dogg is a feeling (HI DERE), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
OK, shit, that is def. worth a capital W.
― discovery witch has "provide you are reciptives" (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 18:59 (fourteen years ago) link
― Pillbox, Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:52 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
What they don't tell you is right after that, the Henry character simply says "Jonesy!" and THEN the movie ends.
― i have the new brutal truth if you want it (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
incredible film, imo