San Francisco and what to do in it

That's a tough one... there are a plethora of generic sports bars around Union Square, but BOTH chili cookoff sounds more fun.

Maybe head over to North Beach for more small-scale options or into the TL for more colorful ones?

Yeah, i knew i was asking a lot. Been looking around more and the VinClub in North Beach has a ticketed deal for unlimited apps, beer and wine for $35 which sounded sort of appealing...but yeah, BOTH seemed like it would be sort of fun. Theyre staying near the TL so we could end up somewhere around there too. Football nerd me is just worried about SEEING the game, lol.

I don't see how you can pass up BOTH unless you think the tv's will be too small or something. VinClub would be a pretty weird place to watch football imo.

I've never been to Vin. Am definitely leaning BOTH

Lots of helicopters circling the mission right now, whats up?

RT @kcbs_morning: We're now told SFFD fought three fires in Castro District this morning. No word yet on any possible connection.
about 27 minutes ago

Market St is closed between 15th & Castro due to the 2 separate fires in the Castro.
about 1 hour ago

SFFD working 2 separate fires in the Castro. 17th & Hartford and 16th & Market. Traffic control on Market.
about 1 hour ago

I was walking past the fire station on Sanchez as they were leaving this morning at about 4:00 AM. It looked like the fire was at the back of that motel on Market or at that mortuary. The odd thing was that another fire station had already arrived at the fire before the station that was less than 1/2 block from the fire. When I left the gym at 5 AM or so, they were leaving again to go to the other fire further up in the Castro.

SFGate doesn't even seem to mention the fire that was going on at 4 AM.

sfgate is completely useless. none of the local network morning news were talking about the fires either. everything is outsourced these days.

wtf?

this is right near my kid's preschool

False alarm, the intersection opened up about 10 minutes ago.

yeah I had a hard time believing anyone would have live grenades to just leave lying around somewhere

http://yfrog.com/h4ri8roj

Dancer?

the black swan

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/06/us/06bcseats.html

not really 'news' I guess

anyone got good recs for like a good italian sub sandwich. no whiney

teds is cool. i kinda have weird fuzzies for that place on divis right off haight (maybe kingfoot? haven't been there in years). f ikes.

The place on Irving and 7th? 6th? is pretty good IIRC. Yellow Submarine, I think.

Kingfoot's good, so is Yellow Submarine. Gambino's in the Embarcadero.

first choice would have been Mastrelli's in the Ferry Bldg, which is gone now unfortunately :(

The sandwiches at Molinari's are great but I don't think they're quite the sub you mean.

Lucca deli

does anything special go on July 4 weekend? seems like a good place to avoid boilerplate jingoism.

Lucca's good too, Steve.

You mean here in SF, Morbs? We usually have our patented glowing fog on July 4th.

the Mission pretty much explodes on July 4th, since we're the only neighborhood without any fog. Between 9 and 11 it's nonstop guerilla fireworks, for the most part

I usually go hang in Sausalito w/my family. Dunphy Park has a totally corny, family-oriented 4th of July celebration but it's vaguely hippyish and not at all jingoistic. If you're lucky, you can see Sausalito, Berkeley and SF's fireworks.

last year, i was on the roof of my then-boyfriend's building in downtown Oakland, and we could see the fireworks in Oakland, Berkeley, Richmond, San Rafael, San Francisco, and San Bruno. it was totally amazing.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/man-unveils-interactive-toothpick-sculpture-of-san-francisco-that-took-35-years-to-create/

this is cooler, imo: http://www.lizhickok.com/portfolio_jello.html

Dude did you watch thar video?? That toothpick thing is one of the most delightful things I've ever fucking seen.

yeah, i did watch it. but jello is delicious.

I gotta side with Stevie...jello is delicious and all, but the toothpick sculpture is incredible.

but....i guess that i am more on the side of 'realism' in depictions of my delightful area, and while the toothpick thing is amazing, i am more into how incredibly real-looking the jello stuff is. i mean, even if i just saw a picture of it without context, i would say, "THAT IS THE BAY BRIDGE MADE OUT OF JELLO HOLY SHIT"

http://www.lizhickok.com/images/05baybridgeM.jpg

the jello is cool looking but still seems like 'artist uses gimmick to get press' whereas the toothpick guy is more 'crazy dude in basement who would be doing this with his free time even if nobody cared'...which I find much more respectable, really

and toothpick guy's work is sentimental which appeals more to me, plus the whimsy of the ball things

and come on... 35 years.

I have a very, very weak spot for Rube Goldberg contraptions, also.

me too

I have overdosed on hipster Rube Goldberg contraptions recently (yes, this is a thing) but this dude redeems the genre.

http://sfist.com/2011/04/27/hallelujah_bart_may_test_late-night.php

^plz start in July

Pls 2 let me know your sched when you make it Proctor Florbius.

what, u think we can be pleasant in person?

Steve's a rad bro, Morbs, as I recall you are irl. ;)

oh Morbsies, when have our rendezvous been anything but lovefests...

well there haven't been any since the ILBB bludgeoning began.

I'm creeping toward booking July 2-6, rather than after SoCal.

Any recommendations for vegetarian-friendly places that are close to a BART station?

I like this place, lots of faux-meat:
http://www.goldeneravegan.com/

Looks great, thanks!

think I'll be staying in the Lower Haight this time, as the closing of the Eagle has sounded SOMA's death knell