another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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it's no mere response to cinema. armond's criticism is an aggressive attempt to reshape the perceived meaning of films, essentially to remake them, to push them into shapes that only HE could or would design.

I have a certain affection for Armond because of this. He comes out with a lot of absurd reviews that bring the lolz, but I like (at least, on a conceptual basis) this notion of reshaping (or, rather, finding new perspectives on) the meaning of films. He makes intriguing arguments from time to time, when he's not being all the things this thread is saying. All those problems get in the way, of course, but it would be great if he would focus in and open up a debate about some of the films he champions that nobody else does.

Gukbe, Friday, 21 January 2011 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link

^ agree with much of that. wish he were less aggro & egomaniacal about it.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Friday, 21 January 2011 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link

City Island > The Social Network
Gotta have at the Facebook movie once again, if only to counter the fallacious consensus that no other movie dealt with the Internet phenomenon. Ray De Felitta's emotionally large family comedy and Andy Garcia's warm comeback performance epitomized timeless, non-cyber interfacing.

i saw city island. it's bad. juliana margulies is good in it. the only thing about it that "dealt with the Internet phenomenon" was a lame subplot where the weird son is secretly into fat girls, and finds out the online performer he's obsessed with actually lives next door to him. what are the chances?

goole, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:05 (thirteen years ago) link

"the internet phenomenon"

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

this whole internet fad

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

the phenomenon of distracting people so they can't watch foreign films w/ subtitles

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2011 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

its not my fault i cant speak all the languages

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

city island was set in queens but it wasn't subtitled

goole, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason i find julianna margulies a total babe w/ straight hair but not w/ curly hair. and usually i like curly haired chicks

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

just adding another data point 2 this informative discussion

max, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link

*concurs*

goole, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link

thirded

Gukbe, Friday, 21 January 2011 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Armond wd make a fine ST villain, if JJ Abrams is lurking

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2011 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

Should at least be Ming The Merciless for Halloween

da croupier, Friday, 21 January 2011 18:30 (thirteen years ago) link

the phenomenon of distracting people so they can't watch foreign films w/ subtitles

reminder: you are stanning for a douche who pretends to love the transformers movies for fun & profit

chev rivera (stevie), Saturday, 22 January 2011 12:39 (thirteen years ago) link

that was mostly a max joke, genius

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 January 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I have no idea how ppl know that AW doesn't actually like Transformers.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 January 2011 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

same way we know moon landing wasn't real

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Saturday, 22 January 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"real" as in it actually happened or "real" as in it was all a front to check out the Transformers wreckage on the other side of the moon?

Gukbe, Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Well there's certainly nothing racially offensive in those Transformers movies!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link

yea Optimus Prime is totally sporting Latin Kings colors

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link

well actually no that'd be Bumblebee

i love tampon spaceship (San Te), Saturday, 22 January 2011 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link

for some reason i find julianna margulies a total babe w/ straight hair but not w/ curly hair. and usually i like curly haired chicks

― max, Friday, January 21, 2011 12:21 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

same here, my wife has curly hair, but i never gave JM a second look until when she was on scrubs and i was like woah

gosamosapodin simgibmelreel (some dude), Saturday, 22 January 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I have no idea how ppl know that AW doesn't actually like Transformers.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 January 2011 15:02 (5 hours ago)

you mean Transformers II, of course, because somehow he didn't like the first one but felt the second was good. Which is completely ridiculous and unbelievable.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Well there's certainly nothing racially offensive in those Transformers movies!

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, January 22, 2011 4:29 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Pretty sure Armond loves racially offensive movies, considering his positive review for Norbit.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Armond wd make a fine ST villain, if JJ Abrams is lurking

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 January 2011 18:07 (Yesterday)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/sexymollusk/armondwhite090223_250copy.jpg

the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Saturday, 22 January 2011 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

but really, what do you guys think of his liking 35 Rhums but not White Material? (same as me actually)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 January 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

He couldn't find a connection in White Material he could manipulate into a diss of Social Network or Greenberg.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 22 January 2011 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

have no problem with him liking 35 rhums whatsoever, it's a great movie

chev rivera (stevie), Sunday, 23 January 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link

AW liking good movies here and there is totally a blind chicken finding some corn

gosamosapodin simgibmelreel (some dude), Sunday, 23 January 2011 00:25 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Armond the maverick quite likes Your Highness (tho it's no Gentlemen Broncos), but he gets off a good shot at the Arthur remake:

No wonder Arthur’s mother (Geraldine James) warns, “As the coffee-colored gentleman who runs this country said: It’s time to put childish things behind us.” Actually, someone else said that first.

http://www.nypress.com/article-22281-inner-geeks.html

your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 9 April 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Digging through some old Spin magazines and read about Armond's role in Public Enemy's Professor Griff row. He called Griff's dismissal "the most terrible example of sellout I have witnessed in my lifetime" and called Chuck D "another bought, whipped slave." Good to see that offensive, misguided hyperbole is not limited to his movie reviews.

We need to talk about Bevan (DL), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I just realized I had no idea how he sounded in person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBxruT4LEaA

Dude should be stroking a cat

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

If you watch that, he complains that everyone lied about the last NY Film Critics Circle Awards. Then describes the exact same anecdote I recall reading (Aaronofsky made some crack, White responded "that's ok, he reads my articles, so he knows the truth") and says everyone else lied about it, without saying what THEY erroneously reported.

also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWrjJZR6PfE

again, "they lied...they lied" never saying what the "lie" was - double checked Lisa Schwarzbaum's piece and...yeah, i still don't know what the lie was, other than the suggestion that Armond wasn't awesome: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/11/armond-white-darren-aronofsky-nyfcc-awards/

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Digging through some old Spin magazines and read about Armond's role in Public Enemy's Professor Griff row. He called Griff's dismissal "the most terrible example of sellout I have witnessed in my lifetime" and called Chuck D "another bought, whipped slave." Good to see that offensive, misguided hyperbole is not limited to his movie reviews.

I finished Jeff Chang's hip-hop book last week and the quotes are even more delicious in context.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't bother noting that he loved The Beaver.

He did win me over in the '90s for rightly labeling The Silence of the Lambs "feminist claptrap."

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 14:39 (thirteen years ago) link

god forbid hollywood claptrap is feminist

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 May 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link

not really to his point

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 24 May 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

AW finds Trollhunter "genuinely sophisticated":

http://www.nypress.com/article-22514-bridging-the-legend.html

the gay bloggers are onto the faggot tweets (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

he's also found a title for his autobiography

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Larry Crowne, is the humanist opposite to Hollywood’s self-congratulatory snark.
Larry Crowne’s lack of cynicism requires an audience that doesn’t hate itself.

buzza, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

I was surprised by his negative review of Transformers 3, but reading that I just said to myself, "of course."

Gukbe, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

gotta remember that he loved TF2, so the most challopy thing for him to say is that part 3 lost the magic of the second one.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

The specter of Cranston’s Bad Husband recalls Dede the pimp in Jean Renoir’s 1931 La Chienne

polyphonic, Sunday, 3 July 2011 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, and Transformers 3 has been getting some relatively ok reviews so he had to go the other way

Number None, Sunday, 3 July 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

I actually like Armond White's reviews. I don't always agree with them, and they can be hastily written, but I find them frequently insightful.

bamcquern, Sunday, 3 July 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

"Bay’s ongoing premise—good guy Autobots battle bad guy Decepticons—isn’t just boyhood army play writ large; it charts the distance our culture has traveled during the past decade. By avoiding contemplation about the emotional nature of its clanging, morphing, warring creatures—or even why the combat is never, ever decisive—Bay and executive producer Steven Spielberg accommodate the insensitivity that characterizes post-9/11 culture."

skinny arbuckle (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 July 2011 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

"ongoing premise"

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 July 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

"contemplation about"

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Monday, 4 July 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link


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