cut the guy some slack he's an ex heroin addict tricycle
― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 20 January 2011 01:49 (thirteen years ago) link
god< I am love with hot catwomwan shit
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link
gimmme some of that pink pussy yummmmm
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link
can lorax get a do-over?
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 05:39 (thirteen years ago) link
my only hope for the next Batman movie is that her Catwoman suit becomes as popular with 20something women on Halloween as Heath Ledger's Joker make-up was with teenage boys. I don't care about the rest of the franchise, or integrity of the comic or character.
― Cunga, Wednesday, January 19, 2011 3:49 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Astronaut Mike Dexter (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 20 January 2011 09:20 (thirteen years ago) link
I like Serwer's point about Bane being played by a white guy:
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/adam_serwer_archive?month=01&year=2011&base_name=bane
― polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno insofar as Bane is kind of an anti-Batman figure - a traumatized child who grows up to be a genius with psychopathic tendencies, augmented by silly gadgets - the narrative appeal for Nolan seems pretty self-evident.
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm with you on that point.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Isn't Ra's al Ghul supposed to be from the Middle East or something? Don't think there was much of an outcry about that either
― Number None, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
ra's al ghul in the first batman movie was the most bland villain ever in an even mildly successful superhero movie.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link
scarecrow 10millionX better than ra's al ghul. he should have had more screentime.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i dunno i kinda thought neeson owned what little he was given and made it something more. murphy was the best in that one though.
― omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Murphy was great, much more interesting character - and one more integrated into the backdrop of Gotham. but I've never really been Ras Al Guhl as a villain, the whole immortality thing = eh whatever
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
been INTO
al ghul in begins felt like a set up for the character to be more of a straight-up villain in later films in the series, although of course that didn't happen.
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
he's supposed to have a magic jacuzzi that makes you live forever. i'm surprised they went near that at all. for some reason magic is anathema to superhero movies.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link
figured it was like the star trek reboot, where the villain is way less important than the origin story itself.
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
whatevs.; he was boring and bland.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
ra's al ghul's dad is sensei, which makes even less sense.
― sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
also, the significance of the villain certainly became evident in the second-film in the reboot batman series.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
liam neesowned
― omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I just thought the whole integration of Ras into the origin story was pointless. Like, okay, Batman learning martial arts in the Himalayas or whatever is fine, but bringing in an extra (supposedly immortal) villain...? why?
this is the main reason I think the second one is way better than the first tbh
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Let's pretend Al Ghul never even happened. Blandest villain ever comment OTM
Personally, I was hoping Leo DiCap would be cast as Cobb/Riddler, and we might get an "Inception" crossover movie and a lot of capital would be put towards the Inception/Batman X-Box game.
xpost
― Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
maggie gyllenpage
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the main reason the second is better for the first is that the screenplay was by the Nolan bros with Goyer being involved in the initial story, whereas Goyer was in on the screenplay on the first one.
Not that Goyer is all that bad, I just think he's maybe a tier lower than the Nolans.
― sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link
an entry-level batman fan
― Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link
not up on the comic books, but ra's al ghul episodes of batman: the animated series were always awesome, i don't think the character is inherently lame
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
he's not really compatible with live-action though. he's like garfield in that way.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:08 (thirteen years ago) link
He's a great long-term, big picture adversary in that he's a villain that's sympathetic to Batman and there's some level of mutual respect.
Laughing at the Garfield comparison.
― sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah lol
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago) link
would be down for a Bill Murray-as-Garfield vs. Baleman flick
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:11 (thirteen years ago) link
actually bill murray would be a good -- albeit old, so not physically imposing -- villain.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:14 (thirteen years ago) link
he could crash twentysomethings' kareoke party with a violent band of dimwits (like chevy chase, playing himself)
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago) link
if Bill Murray plays a character and Chevy plays himself i think jaymc and nabisco are gonna have some issues with that
― some dude, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:20 (thirteen years ago) link
how 'bout if chevy plays some anonymous, random tool? that's fairly close to him playing himself, anyway.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/doleted/steve-martinKingTut.jpg
was king tut in the comics or purely a TV creation?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Bill Murray's blithe insouciance would kinda make an awesome foil for I R SERIOUS CRIMEFIGHTER Bale
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
yep, except the gravitas-gap b/w murray and bale would be huge. that's not a bad thing in a villain, tho.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― sectarian chicken (mh), Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:09 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
this. it's not that he's a lame villain or ill-suited to live action, just that nolan used him badly.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link
superman is also a great sympathetic mutual respect batman adversary but photoshop them into the same picture and it falls apart.
it's going to be interesting to see how the avengers movie handles the thor problem.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:49 (thirteen years ago) link
it would be more interesting if hollywood declared an indefinite moritorium on superhero movies.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
the one project my ILM buddy is working on is the Joss Whedon Avengers movie but I gotta say I'm deeply skeptical
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
er the one project my ILM buddy is working on that she is excited about
The article upthread makes me worried that this movie will be dominated, or at least focused on these hand-to-hand combat scenes...the bits where Batman was 'characteristically' kicking ass like at the beginning with the fakes or at the end with dogs were the least interesting parts of TDK for me.
― Davek (davek_00), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Took me too many seconds to realize that that stood for Industrial Light and Magic, and not I Love Music.
― Cunga, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
that happens a lot around here
― ullr saves (gbx), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Industrial Light and Magic
spelling this out is a pain, sorry
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
IRL-ILM
― goole, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link
IL&M
― polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucaslaves
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago) link