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yeah but then its lost even more via email isnt it?

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont know what contenderizer meant about social anxiety, because thats not really my issue with phone interviews

was mostly a joke

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

you can hear someone eating a sandwich over the phone

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:46 (thirteen years ago) link

in email it wouldnt even come up

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

"so what are you doing right now"

"sitting in front of my computer"

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i just mean that compared w/ the gulf between in-person interaction, where you get to *know* the person, is a much bigger one, so phone or email it feels like you lose some / either way, just in slightly different ways

um, another thing is that until skype i had no way to record stuff over a cell phone, which is the only phone line i have

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

so there were practical issues

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:48 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean i still have tapes from when i did phone interviews back when i was 19 & record to a land line.

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe i just feel like the phone interview is such a halfway pt between 'emailed correspondence' & 'in person discussion' that it feels like a compromise of both or something idk ive been sorta thinking this through as i go along tbh

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

in email interviews you can *flounce off* without actually, physically flouncing off

bigdawg (crüt), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Pervert.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link

in case it wasnt clear i agree w/ grady that the medium of the interview should be revealed yes

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM: Journalists have a descipable reputation and folks realize this and try to limit communication to the most discretionary form possible.

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

despicable!

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Sufferin succotash.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:12 (thirteen years ago) link

fwiw if i had to choose someone to interview/write a profile on me/ someone I represented based on this thread I'd pick rrrobyn

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah dude we got it

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:24 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone hates transcribing

I kinda like it...?

Pink Friday XIII (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link

You sick fuck.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:28 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope this is how Ned responds to questions in his email interviews.

bigdawg (crüt), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, don't get me wrong, it can be super-tedious (and I haven't done it for years), but I like paying attention to the way people speak.

Pink Friday XIII (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:30 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah if you journalists hate hard work so much maybe you should become sandwich artists or something idk

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I did, but I was told I didn't chop the mayonnaise properly.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:33 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah if you journalists hate hard work so much maybe you should become sandwich artists or something idk

― gr8080, Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:32 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol i think u are assuming im getting paid for this stuff

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:37 (thirteen years ago) link

sorry deej, I was addressing the *professional* journalists on this thread

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:56 (thirteen years ago) link

lol yah just bein defensive

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

pfork doesn't pay?

gr8080, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 06:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i write reviews for them

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

In 1993 or so, our magazine did a Future Sound of London feature over email because OMG THE COMING TECH REVOLUTION, but obviously we 'sold' it as such to the reader and included emoticons, etc in the text (our creative director claims to have invented the emoticon back in the days of Letraset). Then we have these heavy-visual issues where subjects fill in the exact same questionnaire, which are nightmarish to chase and collect once sent and completely anodyne in the hands of models or over-packaged performing artists - when we do them, I can surmise that some fucker has spent the features budget, basically.

Mostly I'm writing 2000+ word features about a single individual, so I'm forever having to tell PRs things like 'no, a phoner is completely unacceptable, we need something a bit more uh interactive for a story of this size' UGH THE WORD 'PHONER' but I will do it if, say, the subject is on another continent. I don't do email interviews and will only do follow-up questions via email direct to the subject. Today, most methods presented to journalists as being terribly convenient ways of covering a subject are thinly disguised methods for PRs to control the process. I often feel like doing a Journalism 101 chat with publicists trying to 'manage' me or my colleagues beyond what I consider appropriate, or whose remit seems to include sitting in on the interview - it makes me feel rude/uncomfortable to have someone present who is not in the conversation or is there to silently curb invasive questions I'd normally blame my editor for making me ask. I often mention the editorial assistant we sacked for sending copy on to a gallery publicist before publication, which shuts 95 per cent of PRs the hell up when they ask to 'check facts' before the piece is published.

pwn de floor (suzy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:10 (thirteen years ago) link

if transcribing phone conversations bugs you put it up on Amazon MTurk, some Indian/Dutch/Eastern European idiot will do it for 1 dollar per 5 minutes of audio (or less!)

Ludo, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate transcription but I won't let anyone else touch my recordings. I've been gearing up to a 90 minute interview transcription for about two weeks and am dreading it.

pwn de floor (suzy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link

email interviews surely only good for small puff pieces that don't go into depth - the kind of featurette where all you need out of the artist is basic info & opinions. for anything remotely substantial they're inadequate. a good interview isn't a list of questions, it's a conversation where you bounce ideas and react to what the interviewee says. i guess you could do back-and-forth emails but i don't trust anyone to respond in a timely manner and i don't want to be sitting around waiting for someone to get back to me when, in person, the entire exchange could take 15 minutes.

and that's before you get into what suzy describes, where the "email interview" is just an opportunity to give PR-led non-answers.

transcription is actual hell but like suzy you mostly should do it yourself because picking up on the nuances of the conversation is pretty valuable to writing the piece.

phone/skype interviews are nowhere near ideal either, there's that distance and awkwardness, and as an interviewer i tend to want to feel vaguely in control and relaxed, which i can't do if i have to shout "hello? HELLO? can you hear me?" every few minutes. but obviously sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Google Voice practical for transcribing interviews yet? Not available in UK afaik. These days tbh I am kinda glad when people offer email rather than phoner, especially if it's just for a three-question review sidebar because a) no transcription b) no endless rescheduling of calls across timezones c) no clearing your evening to wait by the phone for a phone call that never comes (I'm looking at YOU Mr Lou Reed) d) no dealing with the interviewee's shitty mobile reception/inability to speak into the phone e) no dealing with shitty phone recording devices not recording properly... BUT... they always turn out terrible, you can't press people to be more specific, no conversational "vibe" or w/e.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 10:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Half the time the PR is just trying to Be Important so they can talk about how they liaised or actioned or otherwise verbed a noun in their report to their boss, so it's not altogether inappropriate for me to hit them back with 20 years of doing it my way. My friend spent virtually all of last week dealing with obtuse fashion PRs and their on-again, off-again subject and finally told them to GTFO on a Saturday afternoon because he was that sick of playing hurry up and wait. For those short things, 10 minutes on the phone is perfectly adequate - I never do a full transcript for a very short piece because it's easy to go in and find the whopperquote you're going to use, check the facts they gave you and write around both with something resembling your own opinion and reaction to what's said. Bingo, 500 words in 20 minutes! I can talk the back legs off a donkey on the phone, and get some amazing responses that way - Liv Tyler stoner conversation, I'm looking at YOU - as long as there's an unmediated one-on-one conversation as base material for my work, I'm good. I did a great phone chat with Machine Florence last year, but we have some friends in common and she wanted to talk about her American side, so that worked well under the circs.

Other classic responses to control freaks: 'a lot of people are concerned that your client sounds a bit over-managed in the pieces we've seen, I know she's more spontaneous/fun than that, so we thought it would be more interesting to the reader to shake things up a bit' or, if things get serious, 'if you really want to sit in this interview, I have no choice but to say in the feature that you didn't want to leave your subject alone with a writer and that is never flattering'. I have been known to invoke the reader's interest A LOT in service to appearing more self-effacing than I actually am.

pwn de floor (suzy), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 11:27 (thirteen years ago) link

rrrobyn and suzy otm

in person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

like, if that person lives in your town there is no reason not to do it in person

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 11:31 (thirteen years ago) link

i've never really minded a PR person sitting in on an interview, though every time that's actually happened they've been unobtrusive, haven't interrupted and i haven't felt inhibited.

i don't even do full transcripts for longer pieces! get yr quotes, type whatever notes that come to mind, jot down times of exchanges you might need to go back to, fin.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 11:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i never knew that terry gross doesn't sit in the same room as her interviewees, wtf?? very strange

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 11:38 (thirteen years ago) link

I did one the other day. Sent some questions on a tight deadline, ended up with single sentence or two word replies.

Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:12 (thirteen years ago) link

in person >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email

― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, January 19, 2011 6:30 AM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think this should really go without saying, but ppl in this thread are defending email interviews because a lot of times they happen and there's no way around it. I do them all the time, but because they're exponentially easier; not because they're better

i think the most important part of interviewing is getting interesting stories out of dull people, and finessing that is impossible over email.

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:27 (thirteen years ago) link

What Whiney said. Also, I can't imagine this problem is unique to me but artists are sometimes really terrible at answering my questions (on phone or over the email) and so I have to keep asking the same question over and over again in different words until they actually answer it. You can't just fill an email with the same question written differently 10 times. Or you can, but then you can't be surprised when the artist just copy/pastes their (not helpful) answer 10 times.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah you def have to approach questions from different angles a lot of the time. i'd disagree that email interviews are necessary - follow-up questions apart, i've only had to do email interviews for one piece, which was sheer bad timing rather than anyone's request (last-minute commission when i was out of town for 3 weeks on another job) - given the nature of it (the artists weren't the focus of the piece) it should've been (and was) fine, but even then it was frustrating not being able to ask for clarifications &c. other than that i've never had to do an email interview.

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:41 (thirteen years ago) link

(and like suzy would not accept a request for one without protesting)

lex diamonds (lex pretend), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

they're pretty necessary for me, timewise

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

gr80 otm

i don't care if you call it a "Q&A" but calling it an interview implies spontaneous dialogue

tangelo amour (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

a lot of the interviews I ran back in the fanzine days were conducted via mail that's right the US postal service bub

we never ran a disclaimer, it was pretty clear which were live and which weren't

then again I never edited my live interviews (I thought that was the true sin of interviewing - paraphrasing the voice out of a subject)

tbh I think this stuff self-regulates itself, a publication that runs 100% email interviews is not gonna be a very interesting read

post-rock was most definitely the future of post-rock (Edward III), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link

i think we've all pretty much agreed that in person >>> anything else

but im really curious that no one sees any advantages -- other than how much easier it is -- to email over phone interviews (technological failings of phone interviews aside, even). i mean, i totally get where suzy is coming from w/ PR people but im thinking more w/ less-known / stage managed interviewees, and the possible advantages of email for conveying an interviewees ideas. does no one else think something might be gained even if the conversational dynamic is lost?

*gets the power* (deej), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i've had publicists tell me that they've literally done email interviews FOR their artists, so that's one other glaring disadvantage

domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link

A couple years ago I had terrible cell phone coverage and no accessible landline and I swear I lost 50% of my interviews in the middle of the interview and had to call them back. Very few things are more awkward than that.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link

xxpost -- It can certainly depend on the artist -- and in my experience there are some folks who are extremely restrained and/or shy in person who are much more communicative via the written word. I realize via some of the posts up above that some may see that as a challenge to overcome in person and all but that doesn't drive me much. (And then again this isn't my fulltime job anyway.)

i've had publicists tell me that they've literally done email interviews FOR their artists, so that's one other glaring disadvantage

"That's odd, all the answers have bullet points and superlatives."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link


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