;_;
omg giant jorts and tiny little feet
― ENBB, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yes his ankles look so dainty!
― horseshoe, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
oh ha ha we've reached the hilarious "kevin smith is fat and wears ugly clothes" part of the thread
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2pPy0VMRAuTvypwfFCnXWyjItbqw4DQPT4j-wLZjYEYldaWj2Tg
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
what 90s movies would one describe as being similar to kevin smith's. im trying to think of comparable stuff
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
tbf the "fat" and "ugly clothes" issues are the least of his problems
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link
Then why does every single thread about him have to devolve into image posts about that? I mean, lets contain this one thread to shitting on his movies, can we?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
He's like a soccer-dad Juggalo.
I don't hate Zack and Miri - beyond the gross-out stuff, it was more endearing than an average Apatow movie. (made the mistake of watching it with my girlfriend, who already had some questions about my female best friend, though).Chasing Amy's gender politics didn't seem that gross when I was 15, probably would now. 15-year old me though "down on both knees getting filled out like an application" was hilarious.J&SBSB was saved by Affleck and Damon.Ditto Dogma.Mallrats filmmaking incompetence is shocking.
― boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I've seen
ClerksDogmaZack and Miriand parts of Chasing Amy
they all suffer from the same things, are bad for the same basic reasons
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
he dresses basically like i did when i was 13 & it was the 90s -- fat kid hiding dumpy figure in baggy hoodies & jeans. its weirdly comforting to know ppl still dress like that imo
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link
in retrospect i wasnt even that fat but its the self consciousness that counts
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i loved chasing amy when i was 13, ie. when i knew nothing about relationships but a lot about comics. i havent seen anything by this guy since dogma (or watched any of the other stuff since i was 15ish), but i cant front like his movies werent god-tier to me when i was 13-14. Cop-Out is clearly the worst of all possible worlds - directing someone else's hacky script, and it's a white/black cop buddy movie to boot. there's a funny story from the set of Cop-Out where he was trying to explain in a handwavy sort of way to his DP what kind of lens he wanted to use for a scene, but couldn't specify because he didnt know the names of his lenses, and a mortified Bruce Willis pulled him aside and told him he couldn't let people know that he didn't know his shit like that. Smith's widely resented in the industry, not just for being a tremendously unpleasant person but because he basically won the lottery with Clerks and spent the next 15 years not exerting the tiniest bit of effort to improve his craft.
Red State looks crappy to me, but it's got a nice cast.
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link
"...and Chasing Amy is pretty horrible, especially considering how many people i knew who thought it was his 'good' movie at the time"
ditto. it's also kind of boring - maybe not for anyone accustomed to Kevin Smith's shtick though
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
clerks II & zack/miri are in the top 5 worst in theater movie experiences of my life
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
if you like more than two kevin smith movies you should stop watching movies altogether
i hope kevin smith himself chokes on a big mac, what an insufferable asshole
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Cop Out is a perfectly adequate tribute to John Badham cop movies like The Hard Way or Stakeout... much better than Smith's usual garbage
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link
oh fuck off dude, like your taste is impeccable enough to offer this kind of judgement
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
When I judge his movies I subtract the dirty talk/actions that sometimes has a "wow" factor because it fails to wow me at all these days. I still judge a dirty joke just like any other joke though.
I think a lot of people enjoy the risky talk/actions a lot more than me
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link
it's no wonder I don't care at all for Chasing Amy
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 17, 2011 3:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest
kevin smith is the worst! sorry \(o_O)/
http://www.baggystyleus.com/store/images/baggy_shorts/P8310017.jpg
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
He's a great talker, though, which is why I'd take any of his stand-up DVDs over any of his movies.
I think I hate Kevin Smith because the first thing I was made to watch of his was some "Jorts Live" DVD of him being self-important in front of college kids.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link
he's better than fuckin apatow at least
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
So its cool that I wish death on you for being pretty much the worst too?
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
lol cool out, jon
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, January 17, 2011 3:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
o man here we go
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link
which movie would be worse? "zack & miri make a porno" or "kevin smith & jorts make a porno" -- there's nowhere to go but up right?
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
can i just pt out that nothing ksmith has done touches 'freaks & geeks' alone
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
(except for off of a southwest airlines flight for being a fat insufferable asshole. you can also go there.)
ok, i'll give you freaks & geeks
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
deej otm
and lo-fucking-l at Whiney telling me to chill out, i'm not the one popping in the thread just to wish death on someone
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't wish death on him!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link
i just wished that he would choke on a hamburger
I'll put Clerks and Mallrats over any movie that Apatow's made. And Dogma over everything but Forgetting Sarah Marshall
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
jorte
― brownie, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i might have to watch dogma tonight to try to figure out why on earth people like it. thanks, ilx.
― horseshoe, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link
i kinda liked cop out, at least the stuff with stifler and tracy morgan
― dj plain ole m@tt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, January 17, 2011 4:44 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
f&g was paul feig's baby, wasnt it
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
judd was a writer/producer on larry sanders!
― johnny crunch, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link
lol straight trollin
Larry SandersFreaks & Geeks
are all time great just on an acting/writing level that Smith can't even begin to imagine approaching
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:53 (thirteen years ago) link
― Princess TamTam, Monday, January 17, 2011 3:49 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
a collaborative effort iirc
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
cool I already said not counting the tv shows
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:54 (thirteen years ago) link
id still take 40 yr old virgin & FSM over the ksmith oeuvre i think? i have to see mallrats again tho. i guess if u are feeling nostalgic for 90s nerdstyle you might prefer those
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Apatow is pretty harmless/kosher - hard to dislike the guy. His work is mehhhhhh
Also he did thishttp://thezaz.nationallampoon.com/files/2010/02/heavyweights-dvd.jpg
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, i was like 15 when Mallrats dropped so obv its in my wheelhouse
― domo genesis p-orridge (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:56 (thirteen years ago) link
saying Smith's movies are better than Apatow's are just wrong from a technical standpoint, Smith barely even knows where to point the camera, how to block a scene, how to edit a joke
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post Yeah, F&F was Feig, but Apatow was of course a huge part of it. Apatow also worked on Ben Stiller show, The Critic, Larry Sanders. Factor in the films he's produced, flops and all, and it's no contest compared to Smith, whose shit trail is inexcusable.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder if affleck's directing style is influenced by kevin smith.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I take Forgetting Sarah Marshall over any Kevin Smith movie. Not that you can credit Apatow as a writer for that (and he only helped on the story, not the script, for Pineapple Express.)
― homeless romantic (CaptainLorax), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Like, whenever I read about a troubled production that lists Kevin Smith as among the many to take a stab at it, I think, jeez, those producers really dodged a bullet there. Would anyone make a worse big-budget superhero film than Smith?
Keep in mind I'm glad he keeps trying, because it gets him the material to spin stories like the Jon Peters/Batman/giant spider anecdote, which is golden. That and his behind the scenes Prince depiction.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 17 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Monday, January 17, 2011 4:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
what
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 17 January 2011 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link