― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 12 December 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 12 December 2005 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link
2001A Taste of HoneyBonnie & ClydeBreathlessDr. Strangelove
In Cold BloodIrma La DouceLast Year in MarienbadMidnight CowboyPsycho
Rosemary's BabySatryiconThe ApartmentThe Good, The Bad and the UglyWest Side Story
Is there an obvious three on that list that won't appear in the top 100 at all?
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link
(You've picked three that I put in more or less because I associate an aura of general appreciation with the names - I've never actually seen them, so I can't go "No way!")
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Ayways, from you list I'd guess West side story won't make it (or rather I wish it didn't). Same with A taste of honey, it won't make it. Dunno for the 3rd one.
BTW, didn't anybody vote for Jungle book?
― Jibé (Jibé), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link
i don't think these are locks (from least likely to place to most):
A Taste of HoneyIrma La DouceIn Cold BloodSatryiconWest Side StoryLast Year in Marienbad
the rest, for better (breathless, the good, the bad, and the ugly) or worse (2001, rosemary's baby), are probably sure things.
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link
the only thing i get out of all the president's men is that i'd rather be watching robards in a leone film!
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link
strangelove seems like a good bet for #1.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
hoffman i could take or leave. straw dogs has its moments, as does marathon man. the rest = very eh.
my guess at the top five:
01 The Good, The Bad and the Ugly02 Dr Strangelove03 Breathless04 The Apartment05 Band of Outsideres
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
2001 i loved when i was 14, but it's really pretty empty-headed in a lot of ways. the HAL scenes are great, but i think i prefer real antonioni to kubrick-doing-antonioni, really.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Phil Dellio (j.j. hunsecker), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
That's Kael I'm pretty sure, unless GM stole it.
Armond White:
"In 1962, John Frankenheimer's The Manchurian Candidate was too wildly improbable to believe—-and that's why its satirical story about a Korean War veteran being brainwashed into a political assassin was such scary fun. The 60s assassinations that followed made the movie seem eerily prescient, and many viewers mistook that coincidence to be proof that it was a great movie.
Truth is, the '62 film, adapted by impish screenwriter George Axelrod from Richard Condon's burlesque thriller novel, was more kitschy than profound. Today it looks like a pretty scar hiding the malaise of the 60s. Its naïve shock (concerning war fatigue, political subterfuge, incest) doesn't do justice to the real-life sorrow that had once seemed unimaginable."
I don't go along with AW's idea that the remake is better (save Liev Schreiber is an improvement on Laurence Harvey).
As films adapted from Condon novels go, I prefer Prizzi's Honor. (Now, if the film had made Eleanor a junkie like the book... JD, the novel's INSANE compared to the film. Read it.)
I really should've voted for at least one Jerry Lewis movie. Not that anyone else did, apparently.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
"I remember first seeing it alone, when it came out in 1962, at the Varsity Theatre in Palo Alto, California, a Moorish wonderland of a movie house. The first thing I did when it was over was call my best friend and tell him he had to see it, too. We went the next night; as we left, I asked what he thought. "Greatest movie I ever saw," he said flatly, as if he didn't want to talk about it - and he didn't.
He said what he said stunned, with bitterness, as if he shouldn't have had to see this thing, as if what it told him was both true and false in a manner he would never be able to untangle, as if it was both incomprehensible and all too clear, as if the whole experience had been, somehow, a gift, the gift of art, and also unfair - and that was how I felt, too."
the rest here:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/extracts/story/0,6761,754309,00.html
that armond white excerpt almost reads like a parody of kael! "scary fun," "kitschy," and espec "many viewers mistook that coincidence to be proof that it was a great movie" (incredibly condescending!!)
i didn't bother with the remake, i'll check out the novel though.
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Tom, you're not from the "it's funny cuz it's old" school, like the clowns at the Film Forum who laugh through the climax of Rififi, are you?
Manchurian works best as a nightmare comedy, as with the liberal senator getting shot right in the milk carton.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
The deal with Janet Leigh was someone convinced her to walk around only in her underwear for 90% of the film.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
If I was, I'd probably be a much bigger fan of Kubrick!
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
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12. The ApartmentBilly Wilder, 1960POINTS: 270VOTES: 15
COMMENTS:
“Good movie. Shirl = rowr. Unlikely ending: IRL she wd stick as best fwends and break his feckin heart as she twirled thru endless rubbish boyfs (21st-century update: girlfs), before she suddenly lost her looks'n'figure WACK at 41.
“ You know I'm right.”
-- mark s
“My favorite Christmas movie.”
--General Doinel
“The Apartment is a damn near perfect movie. Even the unlikely ending is unexpectedly touching. "That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise..."
“It's easy to say "They don't make 'em like that anymore," but they didn't often make 'em like that even back then.”
-- Justyn Dillingham
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:03 (eighteen years ago) link
11. Bonnie and ClydeArthur Penn, 1967POINTS: 275VOTES: 16
“Watching Faye Dunaway in Bonnie and Clyde puts me in a trance and turns me into a drooling, mouth-agape Homer Simpson.”
-- oops
“Bonnie & Clyde may be the funniest drama ever.”
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
10. Midnight CowboyJohn Schlesinger, 1969POINTS: 278VOTES: 14#1’s: 1
“The Best movie starring Dustin Hoffman
“midnight cowboy and sunday bloody sunday are two movies that best explain sex to me, the ambiguity and tenderness and emotional complications that blossom into commitment and love.
“cowboy won the oscar, which must have been the time and place, cause it was so radical and isolating that it would seem to be out of place during that gladhaddening.”
-- anthonyeaston
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Ally, it's not the FF's fault they have nitwits in the audience. Their programming is good, they show stuff (esp the premieres) you often can't see anywhere else.
Janet L was underwear-clad in Manchurian? is she a double agent or not (at least Demme addressed this).
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
9. Rosemary’s BabyRoman Polanski, 1968VOTES: 16POINTS: 282#1’s: 1
COMMENTS?
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, Mia's short do: ME-YOW!
― Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
John Cassavetes' character = just another ambitious NY actor
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Right. Which answers yet another question: What's in it for the husband?
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
and no, it's no one's fault but the nitwits that nitwits exist. That doesn't mean I'm going to willingly go to a place that makes me sit with them for hours!
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
8. The GraduateMike Nichols, 1967POINTS: 287VOTES: 14
“Just saw it for the first time last night (yeah, yeah, I know...last night..I never owned a TV either okay?) But seriously, the last 20 minutes of this film are absolutely fucking classic--esp. the love crazed Dustin Hoffman wedding breakup cross-wielding-bride-stealing scene.
“I am tempted to say rebel w/out caause=50s as The Graduate =60's.”
-- turner
“the ending is classic of course, but it's the overwhelming mood of .... nothing .... that i love.”
-- paul barclay
“The Graduate is one of my favourite ever films, yes. Just beautiful, and unbearably affecting re: becoming an adult, despite Benjamin's situation bearing little resemblance to my own post-graduation. I don't like the end so much as the beginning, and that section where he is having the affair with Mrs Robinson, lazing around the swimming pool and doing little else.”
-- Nick
“i used to think this film was a bit overrated, but i watched it again for the first time in 5 years this morning and i don't know what i was thinking: it's pretty much perfect. dustin hoffman's performance is hilarious from start to finish.
"do you want a wood hanger or a wire hanger? they have both."
-- J.D.
― General Doinel (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link