Ask M. White for help with French translation

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This is gonna be fun

baaderonixx, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

donc: boulot, métro, typo, dodo

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, a bit of messing around on the Internet and I've discovered the word for saying Mass twice in one day: biner (also binar in Spanish). I'll try slipping that one into the conversation sometime soon.

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Irritated by this first crime, the monsters don't stop there; they lay her out naked on a large table, they light tapers, they place pictures of Our Savior at its head and dare to consumate in the loins of this poor girl, the most redoutable of our mysteries.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

xp hahaha awesome!!

Part Three
La triomphe de la philosophie serait de jeter du jour sur l'obscurité des voies dont la providence se sert pour parvenir aux fins qu'elle se propose sur l'homme, et de tracer d'après cela quelque plan de conduite qui pût faire connaitre à ce malheureux individu bipède, perpétuellement ballotté par les caprices de cet être qui dit-on le dirige aussi despotiquement, la manière dont il faut qu'il interprète les décrets de cette providence sur lui.

gff, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:07 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahhaahha it's suddenly occurring to me that the TA maybe didn't want to tell me what she was reading...

gff, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

à plat ventre + consommer sur les reins = anal sex, I'm pretty sure...

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

boy is my face red

gff, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

You changed the tense there, Michael.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Exactement: "entre tes reins"

Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

what is Système D??

ken c, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

is it an eddie izzard thing?

ken c, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The triumph of philosophy would be to cast the light of day on the obscurity of the ways Providence uses to achieve the ends it proposes for man, and to trace therefrom a map that could make this unfortunate bipedal individual, perpetually shaken by the caprices of this being which, they say, directs him so despotically, the way in which he must interpret the decrees of Providence on him.

(Jesus, Donatien, can you write a more terse bit of nonsense?)

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

You changed the tense there, Michael.

You're right. Sorry, gff, it's all in the past tense.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

baaderonix, is it true that 'entre les reins' implies anal?

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Not necessarily, but in the context of the paragraph I'd say yes.

Further proof is the following paragraph

Je
m'évanouis à ce spectacle horrible, il me fut impossible de le soutenir.
Raphaël, voyant cela, dit que pour m'y apprivoiser il fallait que je
servisse d'autel à mon tour. On me saisit, on me place au même lieu que
Florette et l'infâme Italien, avec des épisodes bien plus atroces et bien
autrement sacrilèges, consomme sur moi la même horreur qui venait de
s'exercer sur ma compagne. On me retira de là sans mouvement, il fallut
me porter dans ma chambre où je pleurai trois jours de suite en larmes
bien amères le crime horrible où j'avais servi malgré moi...

baaderonixx, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

great! thanks M.!

gff, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

what is Système D??

Système débrouille. I believe it dates back to the war. Debrouiller means to manage or to figure out somehow. Système débrouille is part Macgyver, part jerry rig, part winging it.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

It also means self reliance, ken c.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

that could make this unfortunate bipedal individual

that could make known to this unfortunate bipedal individual

Ooops

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I had also heard the 'D' was for démerde. Google showed me a few people using this amusing construction: Planète débrouille,Système D.

It has nothing to do with Eddie Izzard. He just has a routine about trying to use his schoolboy French to communicate.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, also démerde.

Izzard's shtick is pretty funny, though.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link

It's great. I think the premise is different from the usual, it's not just "Oh, these crazy Frenchmen."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, the whole francophobic English shtick is so played out. His is more about the funny limitations of trying to communicate in another and only partially mastered tongue - that can be comedy gold. I had a friend who got pissed in Paris that even little kids spoke better French than he did.

Fwiw:

Foreign language screw-ups

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, exactly. He's not pretending to be dumb- he can speak French!- he is just talking about the inevitable missteps and underpreparedness and whatnot, especially at the beginning.

I had a friend who got pissed in Paris that even little kids spoke better French than he did.
I got pissed that the bums spoked better than I did when I saw two guys arguing and one said to the other Désolé, Monsieur, je suis désolé.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

(Your link is blocked)

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

It is? It worked for me.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/foreign-language-screwups.php

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

It's blocked for me. I'm still in the boulot phase of my day. I'll check it when I'm on to typo, before dodo.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still in the boulot phase of my day

J'en suis profondément désolé.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Et moi, je suis navré.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Tu m'étonnes. ;)

Where did you pick up your francique, btw?

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Dans le coin.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Frankreich?

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Je pense que j'ai déjà raconté ma triste histoire autre part.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Je ne m'em souviens pas, hélas.

Michael White, Thursday, 4 October 2007 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

M WHITE: I'm writing a letter to someone in Francophone Africa. I ran my English version through Google translate, but my skills aren't really up to figuring out whether or not it ~really~ makes sense. HALP
---------------
(I have included a French translation below---J'ai inclus une traduction en français ci-dessousz)

Hi there,

My name is ________, and I'm a medical student at the University of __________). A filmmaker friend of mine directed me to your project's website, and suggested I get in touch with you.

Another student and I are hoping to make a film about healthcare in Congo this summer. We had originally hoped to go to Goma, but I understand that travel to and from can be very difficult, and possibly dangerous. We've got other business in Uganda (working and filming with _________), and would be traveling from there.

Do you know the best way to travel from Uganda to Congo? We've heard that the best and safest way is through Rwanda, and into Bukavu, but I also understand that it takes quite a long time, possibly days.

I've been very impressed with what the Goma Film Project has accomplished, and would love to hear more about your experiences. I hope this finds you well, and I wish you all the best.

Sincerely,

___________

Salut,

Mon nom est _____, et je suis un étudiant en médecine à l'Université de _________. Un ami cinéaste m'a dirigé vers votre site web du projet, et m'a suggéré de prendre contact avec vous.

Un autre élève et moi-même sommes l'espoir de faire un film sur les soins de santé au Congo cet été. Nous avions espéré se rendre à Goma, mais je crois comprendre que Voyage à destination et en provenance peut être très difficile, et peut-être dangereux. Nous avons d'autres entreprises en Ouganda (de travail et de tournage avec le _________), et de voyager à partir de là.

Connaissez-vous la meilleure façon de Voyage à partir de l'Ouganda au Congo? Nous avons entendu dire que le meilleur et le plus sûr moyen est par le Rwanda, et dans Bukavu, mais je comprends aussi qu'il faut un certain temps, peut-être jour.

J'ai été très impressionné par ce que le projet du film de Goma a accompli, et aimerait en savoir davantage sur vos expériences. J'espère que cela vous trouve bien, et je vous souhaite tout le meilleur.

Cordialement,

__________

i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey gbx - went through that translation quickly. It's not the greatest but here is a better version (I'm a native french speaker)

Bonjour,

Je m'appelle _____, et je suis un étudiant en médecine à l'Université de _________. Un ami cinéaste m'a dirigé vers le site web de votre projet, et m'a suggéré de prendre contact avec vous.

Un autre élève et moi-même essayons de faire un film sur le système de santé au Congo cet été. Nous avions prévu de nous rendre à Goma, mais je crois comprendre qqu'un tel voyage peut être très difficile, et peut-être dangereux. Nous avons d'autres affaires à régler en Ouganda (tournage avec le _________), et nous pourrions partir de là.

Connaissez-vous le meilleur moyen de se re,dre d'Ouganda au Congo? Nous avons entendu dire que le meilleur et le plus sûr moyen est par le Rwanda, même si cela peut prendre un certain temps, voire des jours.

J'ai été très impressionné par ce que le projet du film de Goma a accompli, et aimerait en savoir davantage sur votre expérience.

Meilleures salutations,

baaderonixx, Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Thank you so much! I forgot about all the native french speakers on ilx, sorry!

i want to marry a pizza (gbx), Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, gbx. I was detained elsewhere and just saw this.

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

c'est pas grave

baaderonixx, Thursday, 18 June 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I meant to revive this a while back to ask about how to pronounce "quatuor" but I think I figured it out.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Qwa-tyu-or

Le présent se dégrade, d'abord en histoire, puis en (Michael White), Thursday, 30 July 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, that was it, thanks. The interesting part is that the "qu" is not pronounced as it is in most words in the French language because this is a borrowing from Latin, I guess.

Horace Silver Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

TS mots fléchés contre mots croisés

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2009 02:10 (fourteen years ago) link

oh if you already knew and just wanted an opinion...fleches

iatee, Thursday, 15 October 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Why?

Get Up (I Feel Like Being A) Hamletmachine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 15 October 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, the france novelty factor?

iatee, Thursday, 15 October 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I know what you mean.

Hm, Wiki page says fléchés may be a little easier because not as much room for lengthy clues.

toast alien, remember barbecue!! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 October 2009 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link


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