http://www.vahistorical.org/sva2003/mccormick01b.jpg
in a bar somewhere in greenpoint, eating olive oil mashed potatoes, drinking craft beer
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 02:20 (thirteen years ago) link
nyc would be such a great place IF IT WEREN'T FOR ALL THE HIPSTERS!!!
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 02:22 (thirteen years ago) link
mr del plz maintain academic objectivity in this thread
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 November 2010 02:31 (thirteen years ago) link
my bad
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 02:35 (thirteen years ago) link
wow the field of hipster studies has really taken off since 2009 huh
feel like theres a really good n+1 related joke to be made here btw but i cant find it amidst all the hipsters &c &c
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 02:39 (thirteen years ago) link
In 2001, in Atlanta when i first started hanging out, and there were these kids living in shitty houses, wearing lots of thrift store clothes, just drinking and listening to all the cool records all the time. Sure enough many of them ended up writing for Vice magazine lol!
At the time I was aware of two other types that i would have labelled hipster at the time. The Athens crowd was more or less like the Atlanta crowd (or visa versa) but back then it was the late heyday of E6 and all those guys were doing the post-Pavement or the Mr Rodgers thing fashion-wise. Like a holdout from the grunge days, with a heavier emphasis on the 60s. Stuff that showed up a few years later in Royal Tanenbaums and things. Of course it always amazes me that girls can basically wear cute vintage 60s clothes and fit in to any hipster fashion ideal over the next ten years. No matter what the trends are, a cure 60s polka dot dress or something fits in with the cool kids.
Before I came to Atlanta in 2001 the only other youth trend I was aware of was hardcore/punks/straightedge, who all seemed to gravitate towards the tight-fitting black clothes, white belts, etc. Some of the more advanced kids were doing mod or ironic punk stuff in the same scene, but most seemed to stick to the formula. Feels like many of these people still dress the same way today, only they just go to the punk clubs and aren't straightedge but now are alcoholics and/or coke heads. Or they are older and married and have a vintage car and look all rockabilly.
I do remember one time going to MJQ (the premiere hipster club) and seeing some kids in the audience with day-glow bandanas and ironic glasses and the whole 80s electro warrior thing like headband, wristbands, some kind of post-Korine aerobics costume on, etc. That's the only time I ever saw anybody and instantly thought "That is a hipsterrunoff style hipster".
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:27 (thirteen years ago) link
the punk > rockabilly continuum is one of the saddest progressions
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i hope that electroclash fashion comes back in a huge way in a few months
but also i am confused-- i think hro only began a couple of years ago, and i don't think anyone was still dressing like that circa 2008/2009. did you mean to say "vicemagazine"?
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah i think it was around then. Just using HRO as a reference. It was probably at a Girl Talk show. It was the first summer headbands were all over the place. I mean, you can point at someone wearing their everyday clothes and call them a hipster, but it definitely has a different meaning to it when someone is wearing 50% trendy accessories.
And I forgot, the skinny jeans-and-fitting flannel-and-converse was definitely a hardcore shows look while i was going to them in early 00s. At the time i thought it was partially a form of infantilism; dressing like you're younger than you are to rebel. Luke Skywalker haircuts to remind you of being a kid.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
when i was in college there were these guys who worked at the sub shop and sold drugs and had gone from skinheads > hare krishnas > deadheads over the years. i wonder if they are still going to rainbow gatherings or if they have moved on to something else
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
I think we even called each other "kids". We were, what 18 or 19 or something.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah i think it was around then. Just using HRO as a reference. It was probably at a Girl Talk show. It was the first summer headbands were all over the place.
ok 'cause now that i'm thinking about it i do remember seeing like some girl last year or so wearing that level of intense eighties fashion that you are describing. i guess it really has endured longer than i was thinking. that look was present as early as '99 or so in some circles, though
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
― loose jorts (del), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:41 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
these dudes sound amazing
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 November 2010 03:54 (thirteen years ago) link
my friend dated one of them and when she broke up with him he went off to some parkland to trip for a day by himself in order to process it.
they were all pretty screevy though, in a kind of especially unglamorous side of psychedelia rainbow gathering sub shop drippings way
they're probably part of the nitrous tank mafia these days at string cheese incident shows or something
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link
ok i take it back these dudes sound depressing
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:29 (thirteen years ago) link
its rare to have the necessary out-of-body ambivalence necessary for extended lyfestile sampling
― .gif of the magi (Lamp), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
were truer words ever spoken?
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:44 (thirteen years ago) link
its otm for sure, i must agree
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:46 (thirteen years ago) link
fearing these chillwaver than thou attitudes have an expiration date, though.
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean my mother in-law called me last night and harangued me about how i was "washed out". what is the world coming to?
― loose jorts (del), Thursday, 18 November 2010 04:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Woah, Adam Bruneau, I've seen you post on a bunch of threads but I don't know that I ever realized you were a 2000s Athens/Atlanta dude. We probably know a lot of the same people, I moved to ATH from ATL for college in 2000, stayed till 06. And it was, yeah, polka-dot dresses through that entire period, with accessories getting louder, bigger, and more magnificently gauche throughout. I don't know if hardly any of it was ever worn ironically. The Elephant Six types just let their muttonchops develop but otherwise kept a vague 70s thing going. And then the straight up indie rock types, which I remember sort of drying up by mid-decade, but your, yknow, Pavement dudes, with or without Rivers Cuomo glasses. Those were the days.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 18 November 2010 05:08 (thirteen years ago) link
just used Shazam to identify 'The Song Abt Thongs' by Sisqo 3 minutes ago via TweetDeck Retweeted by 5 people
hipsterrunoffHIPSTER RUNOFF
― markers, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda feel deeply annoyed that those hyundai ppl are so blithely getting tagged as 'hipsters' [via wearing clothes] when they p clearly arent
current studies lack any real rigour imo discipline is dead scene
― they fund ph.d studies, don't they? (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Reminds me a lot of the way "alternative" briefly described a sort of college rock/original lollapalooza vibe and then wound up meaning "rock", and how people continued to complain loudly about how alternative didn't mean anything anymore even though the term continued to wander around for years like a zombie.
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda reminds me how language/ideas are constantly shifting and recontextualizing throughout history
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Or, you know, "folk" came to mean light music with acoustic guitars, "psychedelic" came to mean anything with a fuzz pedal, etc.
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link
To be frank about it, calling them hipsters is not totally inaccurate, but certainly they are involved in a far, far, far lower-level of hipster than someone drooling coke-bubbles in the bathroom at Whartscape
― darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 4, 2011 11:27 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
they may not technically be 'hipsters' but they could definitely pass. i wouldn't kick 'em out of a basement show for droppin crumbs, is what im sayin.(well, maybe the dude if he started in with that silly bullshit)
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean, kids at the mall in Blink 182 t-shirts are still techically "punks" even if they're not wearing a 15-year-old Crass T-shirt next to a dog with one eye
― darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link
really? i mean n/a is right in that words shift meaning over time & often these descriptors get more catholic as they become more widespread but u of all ppl shld want to retain some nuance or value in the term????
anyway 'yuppie' is a perfectly good word imo, ppl shld just use it instead
― they fund ph.d studies, don't they? (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link
help, i've realized i'm a Yindie (or am i a yupster?)
― buzza, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
yuppie is also a word that lost a coherent meaning a long time ago, especially since you're using it to describe suburban people
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
well yeah obv. lamp, they're not "hipsters" in the 2004 sense of the word, but they are certaionly hipsters in the 2010 sense. Get with the times, bro
― darwin deej (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:24 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i51.tinypic.com/2edxt80.jpg
― markers, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
When I started law school in 2008 I noticed I was one of only a handful of remotely hipsterish looking people, and by most standards I'm not very hipsterish looking. By Fall 2010 a huge portion of the incoming class looked like hipsters to me. The age of the hipster lawyer is upon us.
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:28 (thirteen years ago) link
lol markers is was half-thinking of that in my pointless defense of 2nd generation hipster:
All descriptions of hipsters are doomed to disappoint, because they will not be the hipsters you know. But to those of you who are reading this in 2050, I can only say: Everything in this book is true, and its impressions are perfect
― they fund ph.d studies, don't they? (Lamp), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:30 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost u should sleep with them
― Egyptian Raps Crew (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I would have sex with all this hipster law students
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link
https://s.yimg.com/cv/ae/us/audience/101118/1500x1500w0lsntoxu.jpg
this pic seems relevant somehow
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:52 (thirteen years ago) link
IF IT FLOATES, WE KNOAWE IT'S A HIPSTERE
― buzza, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Ehhh, the Cat-Power/Bang-Power looks is kinda going mainstream now. Chix on my campus whom shop at GAP or wherever chicks show seem to b sporting the look wholesale. The dude just has a fruity shirt.
― heh (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
*shop. chicks shop. where chicks shop. chick shop. dick flop.
They have matching bangs.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
GIRLS OF YAHOO
― pomp la familia (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
― buzza, Tuesday, January 4, 2011 6:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Has this been referenced yet? : http://makeoutclub.com/
― heh (kelpolaris), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, that is still around. That is like paleo-hipster studies.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
The Bearded Dandy of Brooklyn
http://nyti.ms/htAcjh
― thirdalternative, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
oh christ "steampunk".
― but it could have happened when i was playing tesla (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It’s like…millennials, , stop flattering yourselves. No one wants to recreate your college era looks. You looked bad. We don’t need to look to Gen Z to represent nostalgia for our youth; we already embody it. I’m happy for us to retire with our romantic little novels and leave pop cultural relevance to those the coming era belongs to.
it's like ... millennials, look at history and reflect on how cringe it was when the baby boomers were doing this (and probably still are tbh)
Aesthetic analysis is about nothing deeper than consumption habits; but consumer habits reveal public appetites and the interests of capital and the state and that..can run deep.
i still think it's cool that a lot of this "discourse" has entered the mainstream, as opposed to being cloistered in academia as it was when I was a teenager and reading Bourdieu et al in college. it's like being able to buy a new fleece sweatshirt with the image from Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures on it ... in that, while it's cool that it is readily accessible at discount prices in a size that fits my middle-aged body, it also is awkward in that what it represents has shifted a bit (you can get one in white ... also tie-dyed) and the "rigor" has lessened. There is way more writing (and other media) that talks about these issues that does so in a lazy way, or a non-intellectual/theory way. But that raises the question -- does it have to be rigorous? Does the Unknown Pleasures shirt have to be a black t-shirt, and can only be a black t-shirt, or maybe, a long-sleeved t-shirt, but not fleece, not in colors other than black, and not on clothing made for plus-sized women?
― sarahell, Saturday, 12 March 2022 20:05 (two years ago) link