This pretty much sums up the prequels:
http://i.imgur.com/95WpR.gif
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 24 October 2010 08:38 (thirteen years ago) link
By the way, the Red Letter Media guy's Star Trek reviews are hilarious, maybe better than the SW ones (depending on whether or not you're a Trek fan)
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 24 October 2010 08:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Lucas now forced to shill for PC World, just to make a bit of money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVjTBHEnj04
― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Sunday, 24 October 2010 18:00 (thirteen years ago) link
(actually it's quite well made, and feels old school Star Wars-y. I like the scene wipes, or whatever they're called. Despite that, it still somehow leaves a bad taste)
― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Sunday, 24 October 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
That's going to be in the 3D version of ANH. The inside of the Jawa transport is going to look like a branch of PC World.
― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 08:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally always wished they had made Star Wars graphic adventures back in the day. Those two based on Indiana Jones were great. The Fate Of Atlantis was 1000x better than the new movie too....
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 27 October 2010 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.redlettermedia.com/sith.html
the episode 3 review is finally up... 2 hours long!
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 2 January 2011 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
but it just flies by!
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Sunday, 2 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes, it does. Pretty good, but not as good as the ep 2 review. Really like how he pointed out certain things that were spoiled because of the over-reliance on green screen, like Obi-Wan's non-reaction at a four-armed robot unsheathing multiple lightsabers right in front of his face. Also the bit about how unimaginatively the talking scenes were shot.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 January 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah I thought that bit was pretty illuminating.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:36 (thirteen years ago) link
I had a dream last night that Peter Jackson decided to do Lucas-style re-releases of all the LOTR movies that included new footage of new characters, a corsair played by Nic Cage in an eyepatch and an evil witch played by Andie McDowell.
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
a corsair played by Nic Cage in an eyepatch
I would watch a film about this.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Monday, 3 January 2011 18:50 (thirteen years ago) link
I think that Star Wars III review (review!?) is tremendous - it took me an age to watch but then really made me think. Real insight, comparative analysis and a passion for the original pictures, as well as laughs and some OTT maybe self-publicizing digressions.
― the pinefox, Monday, 3 January 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link
i like this series. baby han solol!
but i think the original trilogy films have a lot of shit in them too. i don't like he holds them up as great filmmaking.
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Monday, 3 January 2011 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
"evil witch played by Andie McDowell"
there's this movie with a bond girl who looks just like andie mcdowell playing some flying witch called her majesty's secret elements or something like that.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 3 January 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
is there really a baby Han Solo in the prequels? how did that work
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 3 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
its a joke in the video shakey
"even ray charles could see that coming... and he doesn't know anything about Star Wars!"
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link
LOL @ that one!
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 3 January 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
love when he asks 'is it something that should've been done' about a story element and then answers with the clip of vader screaming NOOOOOO
― Princess TamTam, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link
I think what's great about these is how much it digs past the superficial reasons I thought these movies sucked and really gets into the mechanics of it - - - it's like a master's course in the ways and means of dullness. The discussion of the limitations created by green screen and the incredibly lazy blocking is soooooooooooo OTM.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Totally agree, the amazing thing is they make you realize that the movies are even worse than you had previously thought. It illuminates The sheer totality of their crapness
― Number None, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
it isn't specifically a focal point of the video, but it reminded me of how drama-free a giant war between soulless, faceless clones and robots is. Couldn't they have made one side humans? Couldn't they have made the robots fearsome?
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 04:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah really, the sheer lameness of what "the clone wars" turned out to be is a big problem, the EPIC BACKDROP for the character story is totally devoid of any interest whatsoever.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude who does RedLetterMedia really should get his own TV show. In the vein of MST3K, maybe.
― heh (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
is this one as rapey as the others? there isn't really anything for me to do at work but you know if it is p rapey i won't get away with watching it.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:01 (thirteen years ago) link
the key is he's not just a star wars fanboy whose childhood has been crushed by lucas's foibles - he also understands script and story, and how they work, and that lucas's skills in these areas have painfully eroded between trilogies.
― this guy ☜ (stevie), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 10:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The funny thing is that after the first two prequels, which were total shit, the third one at the time seemed tolerable. But this epic takedown reveals just how wrong I was.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link
and that lucas's skills in these areas have painfully eroded between trilogies.
Lucas' script and story skills really not so prevalent in the first trilogy, tbh
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
the first star wars tells a pretty compelling story
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah and Lucas didn't write the other two (at least, not by himself)
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
this is super interesting but i think the guy is just cacked out by now. there is only so many ways to say that lucas sucks at story telling, his cgi, fight scenes and lack of acting (not the same as bad acting), stilted dialogue, bad plot points etc.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
If you read the first Star Wars draft, it's dreadful, totally lacking in charm, structure, characters, emotion, plausibility. The second draft is not much better, or the third... and then somehow he nails it. So I don't think his skills have painfully eroded, I think he just got lucky once (and had enough momentum or enough of the rest of the story already crafted to carry the sequels).
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
gary kurtz tends to get a lot of credit for reigning in lucas' worst impulses on the first two movies
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
if only general kurtz had as much influence on post-first two movies on lucas.
― irish xmas caek, get that marzipan inta ya (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
the quotes from Lucas' drafts of the Star Wars script in Easy Riders, Raging Bulls are HILARIOUS
― assorted curses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Especially to Australians. "The Bogan! The Bogan!"
― we could play games, idk (ledge), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:41 (thirteen years ago) link
The Obi-Wan riding the giant lizard moment is what tipped me off.
Also, I love how he builds up all this evidence that Lucas basically wrote this shit in a weekend and didn't bother to even re-watch the original trilogy. It's really so haphazard the way he tries to connect everything. Anakin needlessly going back to save that one clone to prove he's a good guy. Obi-Wan constantly referring to these other fun and exciting offscreen adventures they have together where they save each others lives. Then how they put young Anakin in at the end of ROTJ and now Luke somehow knows how Anakin looked when he was 25 rather than the man he actually saw.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
all those repeated clips of lucas at the ranch with all the sycophants clapping and smiling whenever he said anything were super creepy and really illuminating.
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Also, yeah, lots of sitting on couches in those prequels.
― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i wonder who would win the super creepy sycophant ranch contest between george lucas and david lynch.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think lynch lives on a ranch
― Princess TamTam, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
the loser would be the salad
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:14 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a compound of some type, according to the david foster wallace article. and there's livestock, too, but they are rotting on lynch's estate.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i have GONE OFF about this before, but what really drives me nuts is that the basic scenario laid out in the prequels is really interesting! but they are still horrible. it's like someone made three really horrible movies out a great novel about a despot's rise to power. except there's no such novel. it's the weirdest thing.
― goole, Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:56 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark
^^ this fits with my sad dream of eps 1-3 as a political story about the rise of a terrible gov't. anakin as the tyro with a chip on his shoulder, equally hungry to make the old world perfect, and wipe the old world away
― goole, Tuesday, November 17, 2009 10:40 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
goddammit those redletter vids just have me thinking about this bullshit all over again. fuckin lucas.
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I still think the only horrible things in the prequels are Jar-Jar in Ep 1. Anakin/Padme doe-eyes in Ep 2 and Anakin's wholly unbelievable conversion to the Dark Side in Ep 3.
Somehow, even though these are all three massively important lynchpins to the movies in question, I still enjoy all of them and will watch them if stumble across them on cable.
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Wasn't there a rumor at some point that N'Sync would be in one of these movies? I think that was when my Spidey sense started tingling.
― I Am Kurious Assange (polyphonic), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/%27N_Sync
― Indolence Mission (DJP), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
i admire these reviews (dumb humor notwithstanding) because i think it is really, really hard to explain why something is bad while staying within its own terms.
― ryan, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^Agreed. And I don't think he's necessarily saying the originals are great films per se, just great within their own terms, which I think they are on the whole.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link