If he hadn't played the Hacienda's launch night, who knows how the face of British music might have been changed
― DJ Mencap, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link
hmmmm... maybe people wouldn't have forgiven the Mondays quite so easily.
― the next grozart, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Remember him this way.
― DavidM, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd like to remeber him tarred, feathered and possibly on fire...But that's not going to happen now. But I will settle for dead.
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
or even "remember"
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Are there any Jews you don't want to see killed, stone monkey?
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
thought this was a joke thread until I saw it was started by Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy
― RJG, Monday, 18 June 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link
I wonder if there's a right answer for that question...?
― Stone Monkey, Monday, 18 June 2007 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Tom Hibbert's Bernard Manning interview in Q to thread.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 June 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link
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hahaha. brilliant.
― pisces, Monday, 18 June 2007 18:08 (sixteen years ago) link
while Manning's routine made little attempt to be topical, he could occasionally hint at subversion.As when, soon after the Falklands war, he told his audience that two soldiers from the conflict were present.As the jingoistic cheers rang out, Manning embarrassed the audience by adding: "They're Argentinians."
As when, soon after the Falklands war, he told his audience that two soldiers from the conflict were present.
As the jingoistic cheers rang out, Manning embarrassed the audience by adding: "They're Argentinians."
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 18 June 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Tenner says that embarrassment wasn't the reaction of yer typical paid-up member of a Bernard Manning audience, and that subversion wasn't actually his aim.
― ailsa, Monday, 18 June 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
For the first time ever I am too scared to look at the BBC comments box.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6627&edition=1
― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 18 June 2007 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
This thread has made me laff.
Somewhere up in hellbunn, someone's smiling.
― Mark G, Monday, 18 June 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
He was furious when two black waitresses who won damages from a Derby hotel because it failed to shield them from Manning's invective at a Round Table dinner accused him of calling them "wogs".
"It's a horrible, insulting word I've never used in my life," he complained, while maintaining that "niggers" and "coons" were historical terms with respectable roots.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Rip Bernard you were a very funny man who wasn't afraid to tell jokes on any subject good on you God bless you.
Lee Kimberley, Bradford
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link
"hast thou any bisto?" "ah sed fook off yur spanish cohnt"
Writer and broadcaster Barry Cryer said: "The thing about Bernard was that he looked funny, he sounded funny and he had excellent timing. It was just what he actually said that could be worrying."
probably fair comment. it's not just comedians who deny they're racist when their jokes obv. are but comedy seems to be where that issue is most complicated. it's a compelling argument tho just because the idea of someone using comedy to propel their genuine morose beliefs about people as opposed to reflecting/imitating life feels too simplistic and doesn't really make sense (you'd sooner be a politician no?). it seems this guy had friends of other races and cultures in any case.
still, it's a method that seems to be dying with the comics in this country most famous for practising it. i can't think of any comics younger than Jim Davidson who might really sympathise with that argument (and beyond it) at least.
― blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Did he really once sing a medley of Smiths songs on television, or is this a complicated practical joke that everyone I know has been playing on me for many years now?
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link
DV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5cS0bZiJ1Q
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
ha ha ha
― blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Also, the idea that Manning had good comic timing is utter fiction. Just watch any of his clips on Youtube, he's all over the place, he stumbles punchlines, he doesn't pace his set. Roy Chubby Brown has amazing comic timing though, so just because you're a racist doesn't mean you can't pace yourself properly.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link
he had excellent timing, he just couldn't remember when to deploy it.
― blueski, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:37 (sixteen years ago) link
I've never seen an episode of The Comedians tbh, so he may have been the white Richard Pryor there, I dunno.
Mike Reid hated Bernard Manning for stealing his material during those days.
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I've seen Mike Reid's act and that's bollocks.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Reid claimed that Manning would look at your cue cards before you went on stage and do your act before you did. Are you calling Mike Reid a liar?
― Dom Passantino, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
thedragonflyproject (36 minutes ago) Marked as spam You weren't the one for me, fatty. Burn in hell.
― acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
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No, but I'm calling his act bollocks.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link
TBF he probly gave Bernard some tips on race hate.
― Noodle Vague, Monday, 18 June 2007 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link
stu4203 (11 minutes ago) Marked as spam Whats black & annoyed? The reincarnation of Bernard Manning
― acrobat, Monday, 18 June 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
The Sun's frontpage headline:
RACIST IN PEACE
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Well there's a pot-kettle-BLACK situation for you.
Manning played the opening night of the Hacienda: "I've played some fookin' shitholes in my time" etc.
No doubt his spirit lives on in Ricky Gervais with his ironic free pass.
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 07:15 (sixteen years ago) link
manning was a friend of my (now dead) step-grandfather from the dim and distant past. he was in comedy in manchester going back to the forties. manning stayed in touch right up to the end, which is menschy. shame he was a bigot, but now he's dead the audiences who paid to see his act will all stop being racist, so everything's okay now.
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Funny: They replayed his moment off Tiswas on the Tiswas Reunited prog over the weekend, where he was being lifted as a human bar with Big Daddy the wrestler, by "britain's strongest man' who promptly dropped them both.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 08:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Wonder why they didn't get Johnny Kwango or Clive Myers to lift him.
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 08:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Reid claimed that Manning would look at your cue cards before you went on stage and do your act before you did.
... and get ten times as many laughs as you would have
― Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Ben Elton's cue cards...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link
I watched that Tiswas Revisited as well. Looked to me as though Sally James and Spit The Dog could have done a better job of lifting him...
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Is Spit The Dog still alive?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link
I assume emphysema eventually did for Cough the Cat
Spit The Dog is theoretically immortal.
― blueski, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Theoretically? He is one of the immortals!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:32 (sixteen years ago) link
hairybogroll (48 minutes ago) Marked as spam big fat cunt was told to loose wait or die
― onimo, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link
too bad they didn't spell it dye :-(
― StanM, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link
paging lynne truss
― That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I was more surprised at Benny Out Of Crossroads still being alive.
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:05 (sixteen years ago) link
He might be alive but his agent must have died sometime back in the mid 80s
― Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:07 (sixteen years ago) link
I noted the pecking order where Lenny Henry and Frank Bloody Carson got the big intro and applause but Bloke Out Of The Scaffold and Worst Doctor Who Ever were just supporting players.
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Was Clive Webb on it?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:13 (sixteen years ago) link
I was hoping this was meant to say Bernard Fanning.
― Kate, non masonic, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Loved? Shagged? Hated? This is an important word to miss!
― Anna, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 13:06 (sixteen years ago) link
hate is the word.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link
[citation needed]
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, it was in the NOTW, along with a condemning editorial. from Editors.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:16 (sixteen years ago) link
What? One number one album and they get to have their say in a national newspaper?
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:40 (sixteen years ago) link
This is all I can find about it:
http://www.pr-inside.com/entertainment-blog/2007/07/09/manning-confesses-he-is-a-racist/
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Suppose he's bluffing?
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link
Nah, he's definitely dead.
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
ABOUT THE RACIALISM
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
What the fuck is this shit?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link
“Farewell to thee, Mancunian Manning. May your soul rest in peace, with these heartfelt from your next door Indian family.”
― everything, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Watching this thing on Channel 4 just now (missed the start of it), I had sort of forgotten, due to avoiding him for as long as possible, just how repulsive Manning actually was.
― ailsa, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link
he had great timing thou.
― acrobat, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link
sadly, i hadn't. but now the fucker's dead there seems to be no getting away from him. FUCK OFF, MANNING, YOU DEAD WANKER.
― grimly fiendish, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link
nah nah jokes, bruv. he was fucking shit.
― acrobat, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link
This is the weirdest show ever.
And now Arnold Brown has turned up to give him smackdown. Wtf?
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Ah, but Arnold Brown's never played the MGM Grand in Vegas. He's NOTHING!
(i.e. good fucking riddance Manning you repulsive bastard. Fuck you and everything you stand for)
― ailsa, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
What's making this even weirder is that it's filmed and edited like it was done on a budget of about £3k, making it look like something off Community TV or The Teachers' Channel.
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, after that last confession ("hello, I am a bigoted fucker who sees nothing wrong in that at all"), I hope there is a hell and he's burning in it forever. What a hideous excuse for a man.
― ailsa, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link
looked good for his age
― RJG, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link
The confession was very confused and complex. Needs a lot of unpacking.
― Frogman Henry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:33 (sixteen years ago) link
So did he write that himself, or was he just being interviewed by a guy dressed as St Peter in a shitty fake beard, or.....
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link
That show was so slow and so little content and with no idea what it was trying to say. The director was probably shit scared of Manning and let him 'direct' it.
Manning was such a cunt. In a way he reminded me of Brian Clough in The Damned United. But with racism.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't even know Arnold Brown was still alive.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 13 July 2007 07:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I did laugh at the "Unorthodox Jew" gag.
― Dom Passantino, Friday, 13 July 2007 07:42 (sixteen years ago) link
But other than that, whatta cunt.
Chris Rock at Live Earth to thread
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 13 July 2007 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link
This man should probably have been deprived of the oxygen of publicity, even though he's dead
― That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, he's been deprived of the oxygen of breathing, so that will have to do.
― Mark G, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:46 (sixteen years ago) link
it's not the shitbag man that's so depressing, it's the followers, seemed to be a lotta skin head types around him, young people too.
"they think it's fookin bombay"
― acrobat, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:51 (sixteen years ago) link
amen, MG
Yeah, the sloping foreheads in that gig they filmed weren't a pleasant looking bunch. Plus, who the fuck laughs at the "can y'fookin' shoot me first" joke?
― That mong guy that's shit, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:52 (sixteen years ago) link