One day, bitches: the future of the Los Angeles Metro

Your Larry David moments (Warning! Blandness!)

vik you can borrow my pass that'll let you use the westside streets, sidewalks and bus systems

This is why it didn't develop in the middle of the century.

Why do people keep voting against it today, and why hasn't it developed w/ any speed or urgency from 1975 onwards?

Is Fairfax considered "westside"?

-- the D Double signal (adamr...), June 14th, 2005 3:54 PM. (nordicskilla)

Fairfax is Hollywood.

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), June 14th, 2005 3:56 PM. (spencermfi)

no fairfax is def west hollywood

-- Vichitravirya XI (x...), June 14th, 2005 3:58 PM.

So are many fun things in LA! I actually like it when a cool spot is in a non-descript "mini-mall", that way people who frown on mini-malls avoid it!

I like how everyone here wants to completely deny ...oh fuck it.

Yeah I'm just making it all up. Excuse me as I remove myself from this thread I wish I never started

xp-Didn't Dean say he lived in a mall?

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), June 15th, 2005 4:15 PM. (spencermfi)

Well to quote you upthread: "It just seems like any old concert place to me." I was just pointing out how it differs from many of the venues that I've seen comparable bands in various other cities.

also: Dingleberries lives in da CC.

you said it!

dean, you wouldn't know anything abt racism would you? i hope your burrito gives you good culture

haha what?

And why on earth would I ever be on the 405? I never go east of the PCH.

The one that's a treat.

He does!

Mike Davis to thread.

V, it's true that this is a well-established meme. I think the issue is that it doesn't line up with many Westsiders' lived experience (e.g., of paying mortgage-level rents to live in nondescript-to-grotty 1beds with shitty carpets in neighborhoods where cool, strong women still feel safer driving two blocks than walking after dark).

LA's recent Jiffy-Pop style real estate bubble exaggerates the effects (incl. gentrification), but the notion of Fortress Westside does seem to lose a bit of currency when we step outside the sociology and urban planning departments onto the mean streets south of Sunset.

There are probably more "gated communities" up the 101 than there are between Sunset and Ventura. I guess what I'm saying is, those gates have always made more sense metaphorically (incl. to Thousand Oaks homebuyers) than in real life. Hence the Concept of Security, but hardly the thing itself.

NIMBYism mostly has to do with noise and inconvenience, and while it's true that wealthier communities have always had the resources to (perhaps frivolously) fight development tooth and nail, once the Beverly Hills' of the world discover a particularly effective legal blocking tactic, the Bellflowers and Gardenas are just as quick to take it up. Which is why we ain't gonna be gettin' any more freeway any time soon...

My favorite LA restaurant is Urasawa.

I am playing Pro Yakyu Spirits 2004 Climax right now, it's unbelievable.