for solo instrumental classical music I am most partial to Chopin.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 05:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Everything in Mozart always sounds a little too in its place to me. His music for me is like the most ornate and beautifully crafted chest of drawers ever made -- I admire it but in the end it's still just a chest of drawers, and I can't get that excited about that.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
straight fire m8
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
"Beethoven surprises us with what we do not expect; but Mozart manages to surprise us with what we DO expect."
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 6 October 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
Whose is that? The problem is I feel like it's the other way around for Mozart -- he manages to bore me with what I don't expect.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 October 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link
Alfred Brendel
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 6 October 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
I listen to Bach the least of these three but when I do he always knocks me over
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 6 October 2013 06:00 (ten years ago) link
I listen to Bach all the time and he always knocks me over. Beethoven was my favorite when I was younger but now I don't listen to him so much.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Is there a good, non-boring Bach biography out there, preferably not on the tome end of things?
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 December 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
Bach definitely my fave of these three, then Mozart, then Beethoven. All great of course.
― o. nate, Thursday, 19 December 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
xp I mean to start on this soon http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Castle-John-Eliot-Gardiner/dp/0375415297
― abcfsk, Thursday, 19 December 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Don't know how much classical biographical stuff is in it though.
I've never sought out a Bach biography, I always just assumed it'd be 50 uninterrupted years of writing, praying and humping
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 19 December 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
neither have I, but that Gardiner book looks good
this film is wildly recommended if you're already beyond the pale into Bach fandom: http://www.amazon.com/Chronicle-Anna-Magdalena-Gustav-Leonhardt/dp/B0009WIE8O
uses his second wife's diary as a thread to show Bach at work rehearsing & performing, but it's basically 100 minutes of musicians in period dress, at historical locations, performing the music live (single camera shots). total immersion. so, mostly about the music, but with just the occasional narrative tweak to let you imagine the life that the music demanded. production levels are modest, and it's such all out Bach worship that it must be said that this hardly for everyone, but oh my god was it ever for me. it's currently on youtube if you demand a safety check but it rewards commitment
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 December 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
+1, that film is amazing
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 19 December 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
"Bach had 17 children because his organ didn't have any stops"
--leo kottke
― yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 December 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
brandenburg concerto 3, movement 1, a++++++++
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
Gardiner made this documentary (more or less the book in digest) for the BBC, which was shown earlier this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiQbppQq54E
― Call the Cops, Saturday, 21 December 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
who knew john eliot gardiner's father was a nazi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolf_Gardiner
― A Skanger Barkley (nakhchivan), Monday, 23 December 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
Despise Eliot Gardiner.
Now I understand Straub's film can be tough for some (especially in the way it is shot) but its a much better way of approaching Bach, or any other kind of "giant" of past art.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 December 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
Watched the beginning of the Straub film this afternoon seems like something I'd like. Has anyone read that recent book about The Cello Suites?
― The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 December 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
I actually didn't know that Casals was responsible for resurrecting them. I do get the impression that they've increased in popularity over time and have become one of *the* iconic bach pieces (maybe even moreso than the brandenburg concertos for modern audiences?). I think it would be interesting to look at why that is. Maybe there's something about the simultaneously lush and minimal/spare sound that suits modern tastes.
― signed, J.P. Morgan CEO (Hurting 2), Monday, 23 December 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Despise Eliot Gardiner. --xyzzzz__
--xyzzzz__
Why?
― Call the Cops, Monday, 23 December 2013 06:36 (ten years ago) link
Don't like his approach, completely the opposite to the Straubs. There is a section in that doc, iirc, where he gives short shrift to Telemann (whom I really like) that is simply infuriating.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 December 2013 09:44 (ten years ago) link
Oh, right. That wording made me think you have something against him as a conductor rather than a documentarian.
Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick, but I've noticed once or twice that his Amazon reviews are peppered with insulting remarks and general character assassination. Was wondering what bothers some people about Gardiner - have never had any problem with his music making personally.
― Call the Cops, Monday, 23 December 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
What you guys know about Rosalyn Tureck?
― Can One Hear the Shape of a Ron Decline Bottle? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I discovered Mozart I like -- the Haffner Symphony (No. 35).
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Sunday, 30 March 2014 02:28 (ten years ago) link
I've listened to a couple of Bach piano recordings by her, and while they're not bad, they sound a bit too mannered and dry to my taste... If you want to listen to mannered Bach on piano (which can be cool, it's not necessarily a bad thing, especially since Bach was a bit of a formalist in his keyboard music), I'd recommend the more recent recordings by Angela Hewitt (on Hyperion) instead.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 30 March 2014 12:43 (ten years ago) link
the full range of the possible, even just within an 8 (or 9) planet solar system is just so extreme that you can only vacillate between awe and terror when you contemplate it.
― ryan, Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:36 (ten years ago) link
wrong thread obv!
― ryan, Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:37 (ten years ago) link
Right that should be on the POO: Holst, Haydn, Handel thread.
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 14:54 (ten years ago) link
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/music-of-the-heavenly-spheres-part-2-holst-haydn-handel-and-more-30519469/
― Bristol Stomper's Breakout (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 March 2014 15:01 (ten years ago) link
Xpost the Haffner is my favorite Mozart symphony. The Beecham/LPO recording from the 78 rpm era kicks ass.
― Myth or it didn't happen (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 30 March 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
I've been listening to the szell/Cleveland recording. Szell was the man.
― james franco tur(oll)ing test (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 March 2014 00:40 (ten years ago) link
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/_mrqiXtktPI/maxresdefault.jpg
― President Frankenstein (kingfish), Monday, 31 March 2014 06:17 (ten years ago) link
Ok mozart symphony 28 second movement. Man.
― ביטקוין (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 03:43 (ten years ago) link
I would love to be schooled on Mozart! Nevertheless, going with Bach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRocnRu6Kxg
His music is inspiring and relevant to me in no less a fashion than any current musician, and though I wouldn't say it matters, I bet even Beethoven and Mozart would choose him.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 04:13 (ten years ago) link
Yeah bach is still my guy. Appreciating mozart is still a new thing for me.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 04:19 (ten years ago) link
I think about Bach more than any modern musician, he's the best ever
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 04:36 (ten years ago) link
No contest.
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 06:30 (ten years ago) link
Although I listen to Beethoven and Mozart way more than I did at the dawn of this thread.
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 06:31 (ten years ago) link
The last 3 Mozart pcs to go all god on me were the clarinet quintet, figaro, and the gran partita.
― hundreds-swarm-dinkytown (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 21:38 (ten years ago) link
This would turn anyone around on Mozart: http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Sonatas-Kv310-Fantasias/dp/B000E0LBAY
― Call the Cops, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 21:49 (ten years ago) link
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:36 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Me too. I spent all winter listening to a way disproportionate amount of Bach compared to everything else combined. Especially Bach keyboard music. Sometimes a Bach piece is in my head all day. Now that it's spring I guess I'm feeling more Beethoven and Mozart though all of a sudden.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link
I think this might be my favorite piece of music ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhqqxEQRRY
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
and that's the best performance/recording I've heard of it by like a million miles
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 22:15 (ten years ago) link
One thing about Bach is, even when his stuff is played by beginners like at a kids' piano recital it will usually sound pretty good, and if you play it yourself you feel like you are learning a ton of stuff. It's just so well-made, well-crafted and at the same time infused with genius.
― When I Get To The Borad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 April 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
What is the board consensus on Fur Elise? I think it is one of my least favorite pieces of music.
― Doritos Loco Parentis (Hurting 2), Monday, 21 April 2014 21:23 (ten years ago) link
I like it fine but it is not as sturdy as anything from JSB, as the recent kids' recital mentioned above demonstrated.
― Kid Creole Meets Señor Coconut at a fIREHOSE Show (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 April 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
It's fine, it's just been driven into the ground. The three sets of Bagatelles (op. 33, 119 and 126) are more exciting displays of what beethoven could do in the short fragmentary mode that would be the bread and butter of the romantics.
― hundreds-swarm-dinkytown (Jon Lewis), Monday, 21 April 2014 21:28 (ten years ago) link