2008 USP(G)ET pt. II: counting the days to 2012 primary thread 1

David "Banalities" Broder:

But instead of reserving judgment, many of the Republicans I talked to in Washington have started a premature celebration, while their Democratic counterparts have panicked and called for Obama to "start fighting."

The two reactions were based on suspiciously large shifts the Post poll and others reported among some voter groups -- especially white women -- and on some issues. McCain vaulted past Obama among those women and scored big gains on the economy and on the capacity to change Washington. I call those shifts "suspiciously large," not because I doubt the accuracy or the methodology on the surveys but because the years have taught me that such swerves in voter opinion are likely to be temporary.

What we know is that the American people take the choice of a new president very seriously -- especially when their nation is at war and the economy is behaving in a way that causes real concern.

Relatively few Americans have ever cast a ballot for either McCain or Obama. McCain, after two presidential campaigns and a long career in Congress, is comparatively familiar. But Obama came onto the public's radar screen only this year, and Biden and Palin are still strangers to most of their fellow citizens.

The curiosity about all four is intense, which means that the learning process may go relatively quickly. But because voters know that they have until Nov. 4 to figure out their choice, those who are less partisan and more independent will take their time.

They will search carefully for clues that can give them confidence that they are making the right choice. Those clues may come in displays of character, in policy promises or in endorsements by trusted sources. Informal conversations among friends and family will be as important as TV ads or the candidates' speeches.

Multiply these factors by the political geography of this 51-part election, with nearly a dozen plausible tossup states, and the uncertainty of the outcome is overwhelming. We may go well into October and not know who will be succeeding George W. Bush.

Some find this unsettling and unacceptable, and they give full license to their emotions of joy or despair. I find it wonderful, even inspiring. This has been -- and remains -- the election of a lifetime.

Shakey: To commemorate 9-11, Obama and McCain are both flying a plane into the Empire State Building.

awesome

to the tune of "Barracuda" I hope

They will search carefully for clues that can give them confidence that they are making the right choice. Those clues may come in displays of character, in policy promises or in endorsements by trusted sources. Informal conversations among friends and family will be as important as TV ads or the candidates' speeches.

what, exactly, is the press for? how, exactly, can you write the above, and remain employed?

i've never hated the "MSM" more than i have in the last week.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/sns-ap-chafee-palin,0,7590944.story

Former GOP Sen. Lincoln Chafee calls McCain running mate Sarah Palin a 'cocky wacko'

haha, chaffee is cool

"Cocky wacko" has a certain ring to it.

McCain/Cocky Wacko '08

Wacky Cocko

Baracky Cockbama

Gee, what a shock: Look at the what the top Google result already is for "cocky wacko."

Michelle Malkin » RINO tool calls Palin “cocky wacko”Sep 11, 2008 ... Lincoln Chafee has called vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin a “cocky wacko” and said her selection as John McCain’s running mate has ...
michellemalkin.com/2008/09/11/rino-tool-calls-palin-cocky-wacko/

Followed by the AP story on Yahoo! News and then a bunch of newspaper websites running the AP story. And we wonder why our media concentrates on these distractions.

xpost I LOLED

in my experience calling a girl annoying is guy for "im gonna try and fuck that chick". its an instant break up in my book.

-- sunny successor, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 1:47 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

sarah palin is a perfect example of that rule in action

http://thepage.time.com/2008/09/11/blagojevich-goes-off-message-tactical-mistake-for-dems-to-question-palins-experience/

blagojevich is such a fucking tool
why the fuck he bothered to take rezko's ass out his mouth long enough to say this i will never understand

pls, xp

wilc: wacko I'd like to cock

http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/haidt08/haidt08_index.html

...the second rule of moral psychology is that morality is not just about how we treat each other (as most liberals think); it is also about binding groups together, supporting essential institutions, and living in a sanctified and noble way. When Republicans say that Democrats "just don't get it," this is the "it" to which they refer.

McCrazy/Barracuda vs FISA Man/MBNA Joe

Dr Morbius vs Humor

haha, I killed humor long ago.

who the fuck are you again?

lol @ morbs

Palin has hit the Democrat campaign like a fucking hellfire missile, hasn't she? I might have known that if America ever had a Margaret Thatcher-like figure, they'd go nuts for her.
The question now is, not can Palin help McCain's campaign, but will McCain hinder Palin's progress? Because he is a dithering idiot. Palin though...

lolz Palin couldn't be further from Thatcher

Thatcher had what, 25 years of public service under her belt before becoming PM...? And she was hardly a provincial lower-class hick from the hill country or whatever.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTg3MWViMGRmYzYyYTcwZmMwMmY1ZjJhNDM1Y2U0MzQ=

fucking idiots

http://img.polyvore.com:80/cgi/img-set/BQcDAAAAAwoDanBnAAAABC5vdXQKFndLbmx3QzdZM0JHMmVXek95MHEwWEEAAAACaWQKAXgAAAAEc2l6ZQ.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/09/10/LIPSTICKPIG512.jpg

uhhhhh

so is the deal that Biden is only going to be in the headlines if he fucks up?

Biden will be in the headlines if he delivers any good zingers, which is possible.

On the anniversary of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, Gov. Sarah Palin took a hard-line approach on national security and said that war with Russia may be necessary if that nation invades another country.

fun

i liked some things about the 80's.

source that quote please

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5778018&page=1

hahahahaha oh man the fun begins

cuz what this country needs/wants is ANOTHER war, this time one with a nuclear power! YEAH!

Dear Jesus, please let people start to realize how crazy Sarah Palin is. thank you, o. nate

good on gibson for leaning on her about the "god's plan" quote, he is a partisan hack 99.9% of the time and I wouldn't have expected him to bother.

Sorry, Nate, she and her peeps have all the prayer time booked from now til the 2nd coming.

jesus christ she is so nutty

we can invade by crossing the bering strait on a herd of moose!! Let's do it!

Guys, this is Charlie Gibson. He's going to buckle under.

Oh man, I love that Citgo is the sponsor of that clip.

if he got obnoxious like O'RLY did with Obama, she would probably crack.

"You know I don't know if that was my exact quote -"
"Exact words."

I like how that headline considers recommending that we got to war with Russia "hard line" and not "completely insane"

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/09/clinton_obama_w.html

Speaking briefly with reporters before their private lunch today in New York, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton voiced optimism about Obama's chances in the fall.

The two leading Democrats, whose relationship was less-than-warm during Obama's tough fight with Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary, dined together at Clinton's Harlem office. Asked for his assessment of the race, Clinton said, "I predict that Senator Obama will win and win pretty handily."

please let people start to realize how crazy Sarah Palin is

jesus christ she is so nutty

I mean yeah she is nutz but it's not like she came up with War On Russia by herself, that's McCain's position as spoon-fed to her by his foreign policy advisers (i.e. guys who think Cheney is too liberal)