The official bored-at-work cryptic crossword pass it on thread.

Just stared at this for a whole episode of family guy. I got nuthin.

as long as it's not just me and my bro tbh

Yeah, nothing here, and I tried it just after watching Sherlock, which should have given me the deductive skills to get it. Keep thinking the 'dawn' has to be an allusion of some kind.

o crap, wait, I sort of see - is it misdirecting then flagging up its own misdirection? ie dawn is *just* there to mislead on the sense of 'broke' (which serves as the definition, despite being mid-clue), then telling you 'the answer ≈ broke, but in another sense to do with poverty'.

That's an unacceptable clue by UK crossword standards imo.

that reading would be as strange for crosaire as it would anywhere else though.

re: mid clue definitions though, tis an interesting point. it is possible to construct legitimate clues that way, and some barred-grid setters use them. you just have to try and stick the def inbetween two bits of wordplay (e.g. anag fodder, anag indicator), like so:

hero's a nag, when upset (5)

well that's legit, but it's a hell of a jump from that (also 'a nag' deliberate or not?) to throwing in a random word with a sketchy indication to ignore it.

i don't think it's a runner in this instance, based on 15 odd years with these particular crosswords.

but why dawn? if it's just there as misdirection, then that's not on.

xpost

dawn broke in not so poor a way as this

destitute

i mean you'd be looking for 'dawn broke' as the puzzle piece to go along with the 'poor state' straight definition, it's as simple as that. just not.

agree that dawn-as-misdirection is an obscenity, but I just can't see any other way to account for it. But I'm not really convinced myself, & wld be happier if we found a poem by Thomas Moore about the Undestitute Sunrise or something.

& re mid-clue defs, yes that doesn't feel too bad if it's fairly easy & used in moderation, but I'm not used to it & frankly fear a world where defs can be anywhere and letter jumbles are separated from anagram indicators.

Jagger and Johnson get Ailsa in a state (9)

louisiana

something i hastily constructed for a birthday card for my dad. not tricky, just a bit of fun.

  1___2
1|_|_|_|
 |_|X|_|
3|_|_|_|

Across
1 Hill start leads to hesitation and sound of motor spinning (3)
3 Irishman is apt to be confused (3)

Down
1 It's hard work to jump (3)
2 Join up in home town (3)

ack, should be 'joined up'

humoepat

otm

no shortage at the baker's ball (9)

soft one to get it rollin again

ho ho

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17216/17216-h/images/020-04.png

altho they look more like potatoes imo

yeah well get to it

Public Relations acquire copy of The Times, say (5)

Paper?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_222t5surOxk/R6olVKh6M3I/AAAAAAAAAoE/HM21K7BCHuw/s400/hooray.gif

Orthodox type to convert natives all over the place, despite loss of holy book (12)

aboriginals?

with a random letter at the end, like

most of all you're letting yourself down

conservatives

without the s

the second s

ayup

dealing with hounding press reporter, feel it was allowable in circumstances tbh

what was the baker one?

a bun dance

*groan, etc*

yeah i know but it's a crosaire standard and i thought it'd give ye a laugh

like it!

maybe i'll do a bit of a trawl later and have a few like it to hand for again

yeah man we could always do with more activity here, don't mind if its cribbed from other sources.

grand i dont do them every day but next time a few clues catch my eye i'll post em.

that said would welcome another batch of the ones Gravel Puzzleworth (?) posted before they were kinda hardcore

(bit iffy, this one)

Stolen small bed again (7)

cribbed

y

hmm could try to work in 'double bed' tbh

staying the french with cockney possession (7)

sorry,

not staying the french with cockney possession(7)

leaving

pfft

took longer to come up with the fecking thing

Paul being annoying in today's guardian:

soldier, daft don (8)

^ friend got that, I was all GRRRRR but :) but GRRRRR

Yeah, swore/laughed when I got it. Paul can be a real dick. My favourite setter.

1ac/d also great, but needs checked letters, and too long to enter on phone.