if GORT had starred in Shane instead of Alan Ladd...
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Pete, as a disliker of On The Waterfront, I was moved by your powerful piece of writing. Maybe I'd be 100% convinced if Abe Polonsky had won a lifetime achievement Oscar. And Wanda hadn't cast even more doubt on Kazan.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
And in the "ouch" category:
On the BeachCapsule by Dave KehrFrom the Chicago Reader
Stanley Kramer issues the final warning to Mankind, in a tiresome, talky 1959 film set in the shrunken aftermath of World War III. Nineteen fifty-nine was also the year of North by Northwest, Imitation of Life, Rio Bravo, Some Came Running, Anatomy of a Murder, and The Horse Soldiers--so guess which picture topped all the ten-best lists? You'd have to see it to believe it, but I'm not sure I'd put anybody through that.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
How'd Horse Soldiers slide in there? (Full disclosure: haven seen said Ford film.)
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Some Ford freaks swear by it; others (e.g., myself) do not.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw it recently; it's good, esp the interplay of Wayne and Holden.
Speaking of Some Came Running, there better be a Minnelli or two coming up on this list.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh shit! I totally forgot to vote for The Cobweb! But I voted for another Minnelli.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
none of the melos, but one musical & one comedy here.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Me-One musical, one weeper.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
“ Bresson does his usual thing and 'something else' just as well here, which is what makes a masterpiece.”
― Dr Morbius
I'm not sure I want to know what this means.
― Eric H., Thursday, 13 November 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link
What it means is I haven't seen the film in about 6 years.
ie, it isn't as dull as Pickpocket.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 13 November 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
Just don't go kicking the ass and I'll refrain from bringing up the Dardennes.
― Eric H., Thursday, 13 November 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Tabulator ocupado?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I was going to say ...
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
so did The Big Knife get any votes?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link
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29. Sweet Smell of SuccessAlexander Mackendrick, 1957POINTS: 113VOTES: 4#1s: 1COMMENTS:“"Sweet Smell of Success" is indeed magnificent; abrasive Scot (Mackendrick) meets abrasive New Yorker and the partnership is incendiary. Best role I know of for Tony Curtis, and one amongst many for the great Burt Lancaster.”― Tom May“because more than probably ANY other variety of "journalism," celeb gossip depends on maintaining a relationship with publicists, watch one sweet smell of success”― say it with blood diamonds (a_p)“Sweet Smell of Success (gritty bleak film noir about a Winchell-esque columnist, but the real star is the late-50s NYC night life of shady jazz clubs and criminal underworlds. unusual for the time, this was filmed on-location in NYC and not in a Hollywood soundstage)”― Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus)
COMMENTS:
“"Sweet Smell of Success" is indeed magnificent; abrasive Scot (Mackendrick) meets abrasive New Yorker and the partnership is incendiary. Best role I know of for Tony Curtis, and one amongst many for the great Burt Lancaster.”
― Tom May
“because more than probably ANY other variety of "journalism," celeb gossip depends on maintaining a relationship with publicists, watch one sweet smell of success”
― say it with blood diamonds (a_p)
“Sweet Smell of Success (gritty bleak film noir about a Winchell-esque columnist, but the real star is the late-50s NYC night life of shady jazz clubs and criminal underworlds. unusual for the time, this was filmed on-location in NYC and not in a Hollywood soundstage)”
― Gator Magoon (Chris Barrus)
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
Been busy.
I'd hate to take a bite out of you. You're a cookie full of arsenic.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
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28. In A Lonely PlaceNicholas Ray, 1950POINTS: 113VOTES: 7#1s: 0COMMENTS:“My friend said: "Like Bogart always is, only a real person."”--Dr. Morbius
“My friend said: "Like Bogart always is, only a real person."”
--Dr. Morbius
BONUS FEATURE
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw In a Lonely Place again recently. Bogart and Grahame still great, but I noticed how cheap it looked and how mangy some of the writing was; it's an excellent B movie.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
so, no On the Beach
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link
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27. 12 Angry MenSidney Lumet, 1957POINTS: 115VOTES: 4#1s: 0COMMENTS:“haha i can still remember watching 12 angry men in 8th grade social studies and hearing a bunch of girls yell "it's piglet!!" at the screen.”― J.D. “And, as far as the latest Armond kerfuffle goes, I have to say that Lumet's 12 Angry Men feels a lot more like great television than great film. But I don't really want to examine that empirically, either.”― Eric H.
“haha i can still remember watching 12 angry men in 8th grade social studies and hearing a bunch of girls yell "it's piglet!!" at the screen.”
― J.D.
“And, as far as the latest Armond kerfuffle goes, I have to say that Lumet's 12 Angry Men feels a lot more like great television than great film. But I don't really want to examine that empirically, either.”
― Eric H.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Gotta go fish for comments. Be back soon.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Rex Reed is hacking way too much of this poll
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
lol, I guess I stand by my 12AM comment.
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link
?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
He means he's telling Armond to shove his criticism of 12 AM.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
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26. PickpocketRobert Bresson, 1959POINTS: 117VOTES: 5#1s: 0COMMENTS:“I just rescreened Pickpocket and came close to weeping.”― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn
“I just rescreened Pickpocket and came close to weeping.”
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost True ... though at the same time, I didn't exactly mean it as the most glowing of endorsements.
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, you didn't have to do that.
(xpost)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I stopped using "rescreened" when I got bored of seeing my name in the "Posts Very Much In Character" thread.
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25. Strangers On A TrainAlfred Hitchcock, 1951POINTS: 117VOTES: 6#1s: 0COMMENTS:“"Strangers on a Train" is fantastic. So many great images: Bruno at the Jefferson Memorial, in the audience at the tennis match, the glasses' reflection scene...”― Joe “i like strangers on a train but the way hitch films that murder scene creeps me the fuck out.”― J.D.“Robert Walker is the best evil homosexual EVER. One of my favorite movie villains.”― Paunchy Stratego (kenan)
“"Strangers on a Train" is fantastic. So many great images: Bruno at the Jefferson Memorial, in the audience at the tennis match, the glasses' reflection scene...”
― Joe
“i like strangers on a train but the way hitch films that murder scene creeps me the fuck out.”
“Robert Walker is the best evil homosexual EVER. One of my favorite movie villains.”
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan)
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
made too soon to do Highsmith's plot. That hurt it.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link
(ie, it's groovy til Guy DOESN'T do his murder)
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
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24. Ugetsu/ Ugetsu monogatariKenji Mizoguchi, 1953POINTS: 118VOTES: 5#1s: 0COMMENTS:It seems that Mizoguchi has for some reason been forgotten from the list of great directors, which is a real pity, so I gotta go for the 62 or 72 list for still including Ugetsu.― Tuomas“I'm as upset as anyone that Ugetsu has been phased out of the top 10 out of the past few decades since it is, to my tastes, far greater than anything Kurosawa has done; perhaps my favorite film as of now”― Vichitravirya_XI
It seems that Mizoguchi has for some reason been forgotten from the list of great directors, which is a real pity, so I gotta go for the 62 or 72 list for still including Ugetsu.
― Tuomas
“I'm as upset as anyone that Ugetsu has been phased out of the top 10 out of the past few decades since it is, to my tastes, far greater than anything Kurosawa has done; perhaps my favorite film as of now”
― Vichitravirya_XI
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link
This is definitely the "we now return to our regularly scheduled program" kicking in now. About time.
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
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23. Bonjour TristesseOtto Preminger, 1958POINTS: 126VOTES: 5#1s: 0COMMENTS:“Jean Seberg's perfect summer starts to slip away from her as Preminger's ever-gliding camera picks up every shard culminating in the devastating final shot.”― Kevin John Bozelka“Preminger's (and Seberg's... and Kerr's?) peak.”--Dr. Morbius“/Jean Seberg. //OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG.Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. //OMG./“Jean Seberg, does one need anymore reasons to love this movie to death? She turns a crap novel and a mediocre movie into a diamond sight for sore eyes.“Jean Seberg, my sweet Angel of Death. “--Le Bateau Ivre
“Jean Seberg's perfect summer starts to slip away from her as Preminger's ever-gliding camera picks up every shard culminating in the devastating final shot.”
― Kevin John Bozelka
“Preminger's (and Seberg's... and Kerr's?) peak.”
“/Jean Seberg. //OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG.Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. OMG. Jean Seberg. //OMG./
“Jean Seberg, does one need anymore reasons to love this movie to death? She turns a crap novel and a mediocre movie into a diamond sight for sore eyes.
“Jean Seberg, my sweet Angel of Death. “
--Le Bateau Ivre
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
yes, good streak. I bet almost time for another stinker!
Seberg wd've been 70 yesterday, I think.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
God, what a movie! Not Preminger's best but damn close.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's a comment I missed on Sweet Smell from Pete:
Sweet Smell of SuccessThe Wire begins here: This is the first non-noir I can think of torelish in its street knowledge of a hidden urban world. It's wiseass,streetwise, but maybe too wised up--I don't quite get the racialcracks about the cop, for starters. But Sweet Smell obviously lovesits real New York locations and musical nightlife, and I love theidea, whether true or made-up, that a right-wing tabloid entertainmentcolumnist could be powerful enough to hold court in his own section ofa restaurant, and that he could tar a jazz musician with the shocking,shocking slander of Communist association and reefer smoking. Butmostly I love Tony Curtis, who would have given a little heart andjolt to La Dolce Vita.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link
time for a cartoon break methinks.
― Ioannis, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm still sort of stuck on Advise and Consent as the best of the Premingers I've seen, but the man made as many movies as Hitchcock nearly, so that will probably never be a definitive statement.
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link
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22. The SearchersJohn Ford, 1956POINTS: 127VOTES: 5#1s: 0COMMENTS:“I have, in fact, used the first 20-25 minutes of The Searchers (up to the funeral) to teach the art and science of visual storytelling to would-be critics. I'm not a Fordophile in the sense that I've seen all of his work, but I watch The Searchers over and over again--corny, un p.c. bits and all--and get something new out of it every time. “― Lee G
“I have, in fact, used the first 20-25 minutes of The Searchers (up to the funeral) to teach the art and science of visual storytelling to would-be critics. I'm not a Fordophile in the sense that I've seen all of his work, but I watch The Searchers over and over again--corny, un p.c. bits and all--and get something new out of it every time. “
― Lee G
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm guessing the two Fords I voted for aint finishing above this.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
holy crap, that's low!
xp
― Ioannis, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link
some folx have no use at all for Wayne/Ford.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
That IS low!
― Eric H., Friday, 14 November 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
for a film w/ all the slapstick with Jeffrey Hunter? (tho God, he's beautiful)
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
jeez, i assumed it would make top ten no sweat.
― Ioannis, Friday, 14 November 2008 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link
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21. All About EveJoseph L. Mankiewicz, 1950POINTS: 129VOTES: 6#1s: 0COMMENTS:“Patricia White in Uninvited: “It is one thing to love and emulate Bette Davis; it is another thing entirely to succumb to the charms of Barbara Bates” (213).”--klb“All About Eve is a strange one, because by rights it should be too literary, too stagey, too much of its period, too in-jokey and not cinematic enough for me. But I've sat through it twice in the last few months and been totally engrossed each time, even though I've seen it often enough to hear the dialogue before the actors say it.”― frankiemachine “I give Eve the edge for its gallery of performances (no one's praised Celeste Holm much; she plays the tricky part of the goody-goody backstabbing best friend with vinegary wit)”― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn
“Patricia White in Uninvited: “It is one thing to love and emulate Bette Davis; it is another thing entirely to succumb to the charms of Barbara Bates” (213).”
--klb
“All About Eve is a strange one, because by rights it should be too literary, too stagey, too much of its period, too in-jokey and not cinematic enough for me. But I've sat through it twice in the last few months and been totally engrossed each time, even though I've seen it often enough to hear the dialogue before the actors say it.”
― frankiemachine
“I give Eve the edge for its gallery of performances (no one's praised Celeste Holm much; she plays the tricky part of the goody-goody backstabbing best friend with vinegary wit)”
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link