a western for ppl who don't like westerns.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link
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49. Plan 9 From Outer SpaceEdward D. Wood Jr., 1959POINTS: 78VOTES: 3#1s: 0COMMENTS:ALL OF YOU ON EARTH ARE IDIOTS!
COMMENTS:
ALL OF YOU ON EARTH ARE IDIOTS!
BONUS FEATURE
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost OK, this list is starting to get really bad.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
How is Imitation of Life THAT low?!
― Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link
+ I think Un Chant D’Amour was something like #2 on my list.
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48. Rebel Without A CauseNicholas Ray, 1955POINTS: 78VOTES: 5#1s: 0COMMENTS:“belle and sebastien are sal mineo in rebel w/o a cause”― Fritz Wollner From If bands were characters from movies
“belle and sebastien are sal mineo in rebel w/o a cause”
― Fritz Wollner From If bands were characters from movies
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link
luv me some Diabolique (damn I shoulda voted in this thing)
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link
Plan 9 < Glen or Glenda?
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I was going to vote but never got around to ordering my list, but I specifically excluded Plan 9 because I felt it didn't belogn on the list. Certainly not above Some like it Hot
― Nomi Malone and Her Bloodstains (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link
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47. La StradaFederico Fellini, 1954POINTS: 80VOTES: 3#1s: 0COMMENTS:“There are films that quietly tell a story (La Strada, for instance) without feeling the need to 'show us what were really are,' or to lampoon the hypocrisy of modern life. Those are the ones I prefer.”― andy --“La Strada - I want to go back in time and impregnate Giulietta Masina.”― Jeff-PTTL
“There are films that quietly tell a story (La Strada, for instance) without feeling the need to 'show us what were really are,' or to lampoon the hypocrisy of modern life. Those are the ones I prefer.”
― andy --
“La Strada - I want to go back in time and impregnate Giulietta Masina.”
― Jeff-PTTL
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a strain of Right Directors/Wrong Films goin on...
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
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46. Night and The CityJules Dassin, 1950POINTS: 81VOTES: 3#1s: 0COMMENTS:RIP Jules DassinRIP Richard Widmark
RIP Jules Dassin
RIP Richard Widmark
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
...and that's it for today. Stay tuned for 45-31 tomorrow.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Thank God there are still 45 slots left!
― Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, where will Bridge on the River Kwai turn up?
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link
You'd be surprised...
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
oh I hope so.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
#1. Seven Samurai
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
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"Madness!"
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link
My takes:
I hated La Strada, but that was 18 years ago. I felt trapped in the movie, and couldn't figure out why anyone (the characters, the audience) wouldn't want to get out. Anyone want to rhapsodize?
Shane felt a little canned, its vision of the kid a little cute ("Shane! Shane!"), but I know Western fans love it, and it has some exciting fights and romantic tension. I'd probably watch it again.
Rebel Without a Cause is Beautiful, and I'll keep going back to it (Invasion didn't make my Top 20 either), but its overt sociology is silly. I don't know when the first realistic depiction of American parents and teens hit a screen (maybe the American Family doc on PBS in the '70s?), but this one is laughable enough to throw me out of the film, no matter how good Dead is.
Imitation of Life is great, but it's all sacrifice, tragedy, and pain, where All That Heaven Allows involves a rebellion, which is so much more poignant. I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven.
I loved Night and the City, but didn't remember it well enough. The first wrestling noir?
I also loved Ed Wood, but couldn't sit through Plan 9.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha, I meant Dean, not Dead.
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Shane ... I know Western fans love it
hmmm, not cineaste western fans. It's by GEORGE STEVENS, for God's sake. Big fans of it should get an enforced Boetticher/ Mann oater marathon.
(not only are those 2 not gonna show up on this list, we're gonna get High Noon too, right?)
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Rebel Without a Cause is a melodrama; what's silly about it is just as silly in Imitation of Life.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Sal Mineo in Rebel is rather proto-Emo. Its kind of odd that Emo kids never picked up on the mismatched socks.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven.
The rest of this unfinished sentence sure as hell better not be something along the lines of "works better than either."
― Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
(x-post)
On the same tip, was there ever a confirmation that Natalie Wood lost her virginity to Nick Ray?
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
if i had voted i likely would have gone with 'on dangerous ground' for #1, but i didn't
― omar little, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link
I saw that recently. I liked it, but felt it came off like two halves of better movies that got glued together.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I heard rumor that Ray had Dean, Wood, Mineo.
I watched Ray's Bitter Victory again last night. Like a lot, but Curt Jurgens' character is too transparently craven, and Burton baldly enunciates the theme several times.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
without the divide it would never have worked
― omar little, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link
It's pretty packed for 80 minutes. No waste at all.
― The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
"I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven." = I think that's why you find the combination in Far from Heaven.
I LOVE melodrama, but do you really think teens in the '50s were suffering from too LITTLE parental authority? The whole weak-father trope in Rebel Without a Cause is the thing I find laughable. Maybe that's just one part of the film, but the structure truly feels like a cautionary tale, where Imitation of Life isn't quite so neat. I didn't vote for either film, though...
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link
Gawd what a depressing run of films!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM. And Morbs waaaaaaaaaaay OTM about Shane. You just KNOW High Noon and Seven Samurai are coming up. But please spare us Kwai.
P.S. For the record, I placed Imitation of Life at number one.
P.P.S. James Dead. Ouch.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link
It's pretty packed for 80 minutes.
The UK version of Bitter Victory, which finally got put out on disc, is 103 minutes. So there is some waste, and like in Strangers on a Train much of it is named Ruth Roman.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Have to admit I found Imitation Of Life irritating, despite its many charms. Just couldn't feel for the main characters like I did in All That Heaven Allows
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Shane eased me into Westerns, and not just because of that wonderfully ambiguous ending. There are themes in that film that are actually in a lot of westerns, but when I was younger, I had never noticed them before in other ones. I know it's about as cliché as "hey let us compare John Ford/John Wayne westerns through three decades", but it's still a good stepping stone into what is now one of my favourite genres. I seem to remember Ebert's Great Movies entry being pretty good: Shane
As hokey as Rebel is, there is something about James Dean that is so captivating that I can forgive it. I much prefer his performance in Giant, however, so that should be where the James Dean recognition should go.
Roman Holiday is still great, but I love Audrey and Gregory.
Wish Smiles of a Summer Night was higher. The moment where the statue lever is hit and the bed moves into the other room is simply perfection.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, Elevator the Gallows is overrated.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link
everything in Giant except Dean is pretty mediocre to terrible!
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
OK, I can accept that (even though I'm pretty sure I actually hate Far From Heaven in retrospect).
― Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
ha - Liz is actually in character for once!
I never understood Lola Montes and Johnny Guitar's reputations. And wtf High Society?!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Which is why it is the real testament to Dean's abilities! Watching Rebel, you can understand why his early death meant the loss of an icon. Watching Giant, you can see that the real tragedy is the loss of a really good actor. Dude made a 3-hour slog really quite enjoyable to watch.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost, btw
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I always felt Johnny Guitar's reputation had more to do with the crowing on of the Cahiers set than anything. Only saw the movie once, years ago, and don't really remember it though.
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Raise your hands if you voted for Shane, fuckos.
Lots of Orpheus doesn't scan, but appropriating totalitarian chic for a conception of the afterlife as chilling as David Byrne's has a lot of resonance. Maria Casares and her black rubber gloves is my idea of an enforcer.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link
blaming Alfred for low Smiles position
???
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I voted for Shane. And I'm not ashamed!
― Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
xp: cuz you didn't vote, right
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link
(of a Summer Night)
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
xxpost We'll be ashamed for you, Gukbe.
j/k j/k much love!!! (although ask whoever buys you gifts for the Boetticher box for whatever holiday you celebrate...I know I'm doing that!)
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link