Like I'm pretty sure the complaints that political parties try to appeal to the masses started a day after Democracy did.
― Mordy, Friday, 11 June 2010 01:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Because he got so much reinforcement for his (admittedly often fantastic) HARD HITTING TAKE NO PRISONERS pieces that he gradually stopped writing anything else and became
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6f/Angrydog.jpg
― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 11 June 2010 01:28 (thirteen years ago) link
imo
yeah i think we all know each others' positions on big tent/compromise politics, i just didn't get the reaction to his piece being posted because imo it was pretty restrained considering the source and had very little to argue with
― fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Friday, 11 June 2010 01:55 (thirteen years ago) link
POLITICO devotes three fucking pages to Oh noes WH staffers have their shirts off on Saturday in a bar!
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Friday, 11 June 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link
surprised i still have an ounce of outrage left for politico suddenly calling something... overexposed
― goole, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:38 (thirteen years ago) link
jonathan bernstein responds to greenwald:
http://plainblogaboutpolitics.blogspot.com/2010/06/presidency-is-weak-really.html
I don't know how to respond to this nicely: this is ignorant nonsense that betrays a deep lack of understanding of how the government of the United States works.
me-ow
― goole, Friday, 11 June 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
oh snap
― rugged and unrelenting (even brutal) (HI DERE), Friday, 11 June 2010 16:34 (thirteen years ago) link
bernstein bringin it
― iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link
democratic party is more interested in staying in power than actual progressive principles
And at what point do alleged progressives say 'enough' with having their concerns ignored, or being tossed the occasional bone? Almost never.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 June 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
their concerns are ignored because there aren't very many of them.
― iatee, Friday, 11 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link
BreakingNews Fla. Gov. Charlie Crist vetoes bill requiring women to get ultrasound before all abortions -- AP
― gonjasufi smacker (J0rdan S.), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure most abortion doctors do ultrasounds before abortions anyway?? I mean, that seems like the smart thing to do, see what's up in the womb beforehand?
― All small bassoons have at one time or another been called fagottino (crüt), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Ummmm....
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Friday, 11 June 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/06/11/95755/how-obama-blew-his-critical-offshore.html
must read
― goole, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
crut: The point of such legislation is to discourage abortion by making sure the patients are shown pictures of the fetus.
― The Reverend, Friday, 11 June 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Bill might have specified SHOWING them to the patient before the procedure? If a doc does one for his or her own reference, that's (probably?) responsible medical practice.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Saturday, 12 June 2010 01:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Just found it: apparently patient would have been required to "listen" to doctor describing the images.
― the soul of the avocado escapes as soon as you open it (Laurel), Saturday, 12 June 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm glad i read bernstein's calm, reasoned, adult take on how american politics really work
― fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link
snark away, but he makes a sound point. Obama wasn't going to be able to bully pulpit his way to a public option.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:25 (thirteen years ago) link
good onion article for that abortion law btw. "law mandates women paint nurseries before abortions" or something like that.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
xp he either is unable to figure out gg's thesis or he took an ideological quip and tried to take it down by making it into a logistic point - that when compromise is necessary it's because something better is not worth fighting for because of the potential political cost. either that or they don't really believe in or want a more progressive policy. and imho there's not much of a difference.
so he basically took something greenwald said, said how unrealistic he was being and re-emphasized gg's point, is how i read it down to an extent
― fman29.5 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 12 June 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
this "force patient to look at an ultrasound/hear it described" legislation has been growing in popularity with the anti-choice movement. it's loathsome in every way, and it's especially dishonest of the right given their "do you want government to tell you doctor how he can or can't treat you?" stance during the health care bill run-up; this law would mandate that a doctor order a procedure and carry it out in a specified way for no medical reason whatsoever. Crist's veto is kinda fucking righteous, to be honest, and he should be applauded for it. legislatures can be in the business of telling doctors what they can't do, up to a point (procedures that aren't medically recognized, etc), but the law has little business telling doctors which procedures they must do.
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 12 June 2010 04:09 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^real talk
― gbx, Saturday, 12 June 2010 04:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yezzir
― The Reverend, Saturday, 12 June 2010 04:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Crist's veto doesn't make me want to give him a bunch of money or anything, I know we don't agree on most things, but on this specific issue, damn do I want to give the man a hug. This is some principled shit.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Saturday, 12 June 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh, this is yummy: Obama administration loves prosecuting leakers of classified info.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 June 2010 12:52 (thirteen years ago) link
very Milhous
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 12 June 2010 13:06 (thirteen years ago) link
In 17 months in office, President Obama has already outdone every previous president in pursuing leak prosecutions. His administration has taken actions that might have provoked sharp political criticism for his predecessor, George W. Bush, who was often in public fights with the press.
kind of lol but mostly sad
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 12 June 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:We have stuck together since the late 1950's, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell (You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all three of them).We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies, and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO's and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood. You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks andwar protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault we'll help provide them security. We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam,Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N. but we will no longer be paying the bill. We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute Imagine, I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World. We'll practice trickle-down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Also since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name, and our flag.
In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us willneed whose help in 15 years.
― Cunga, Sunday, 13 June 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link
Ugh.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Sunday, 13 June 2010 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link
love how these insane shitheels assume moderate conservatives would gladly follow them to hell
― Worth waiting for the fannypunch at 4.02 (stevie), Sunday, 13 June 2010 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw&feature=player_embedded
― WHEN CROWS GO BAD (suzy), Sunday, 13 June 2010 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok but we get to keep all scientists and universities
― fuck it, we're going to Olive Garden® (Z S), Sunday, 13 June 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Also since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name, and our flag.
See this makes total since. Since this guy is so bent out of shape over the results of a democratic popular election and wants to destroy the union, he should definitely keep the history of mostly civil, polarized political discourse, the title United States of America, and the flag with 50 stars.
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:14 (thirteen years ago) link
We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street.
Best line of the post. The blind faith in immortal institutions which have and will always place profits above human wellbeing never ceases to amaze me.
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Love how he wants to get rid of "redistributive taxes" but keep the cops and the military. Dollars to donuts he lives in one of those states that's a net recipient of federal tax dollars. Hey, pal, you can keep ONLY WHAT YOU'VE PAID FOR, get me?
― I guess for copraphiles this is gonna be awesome (Pancakes Hackman), Sunday, 13 June 2010 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't love how these guys seem to always relish being complete assholes.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 13 June 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
we also will be keeping all of the magnets
― gbx, Sunday, 13 June 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I guess it goes without saying that we're getting all the gay people.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
good job on suppressing Obamaleak outrage in favor of more wingnut chuckles
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
oh brother.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link
This fag will be on my own Fabian Socialist island, not getting married or joining the Army.
xxp
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 13 June 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Dr M I was waiting until Monday to see if anybody besides We Shrill Three gave a shit about the Death To All Leakers policy but yr right anyway - more bullshit to be ignored in favor of "look here, something even more grotesque" I guess
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
If I'm in the threesome, I prefer "Doctor Doom."
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 June 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm pretty interested in these cables myself. I'm all for transparency, I love what these Wikileaks guys are doing! If they leak incriminating stuff then the people in charge shouldn't have been saying incriminating things on taxpayer money!
This "IT MUST NOT BE LEAKED FOR NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS" is great and all but if this country keeps buying into this military/police state mentality then what "freedoms" are we fighting for in these wars again?
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link
freedom to bitch on msg boards
― iatee, Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
from the safety and comfort of Park Slope lofts.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link
freedom to always be pointing at who's worse instead of cleaning yr own damn house
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:22 (thirteen years ago) link
freedom of speech
― max, Sunday, 13 June 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link