Best Stanley Kubrick movie

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i should've voted for something contrarian and argued about it but strangelove is too perfect

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The bit in 2001 when Bowman's in the weird space hotel at the end, and he sees the old man - the camera is in first person, looking through Bowman's eyes, so we see what he sees and we identify with him. Then the old man hears a noise, and gets up, and comes towards us - we assume. But suddenly we realise that the old man is Bowman, and that the Bowman whose eyes we were looking through has gone... the shift in perspective from young Bowman/first person to old Bowman/third person is literally BREATHTAKING, and achieved without any edits or camera movement of any kind.

So, just for that, 2001.

ledge, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

keir dullea is so one-note though :/

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 12:54 (seventeen years ago) link

2001 for what ledge said and also every other scene in that movie.

Ste, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

keir dullea is so one-note though :/


Would you want it any other way though? Would you want Dullea mugging for the camera wildly emoting? It's a Kubrick movie!

underpants of the gods, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Stanley K, everyone loves him (don't they?

Nope, sorry.

However, I saw Barry Lyndon last fall and, whaddya know, it was pretty funny. A Clockwork Orange is misbegotten, The Shining meh, and 2001 a snooze.

My favorite's probably [Paths of Glory, which is cold as ice despite Kirk Douglas' sanctimonious shouting. Any scene in Spartacus with Charles Laughton, Peter Ustinov, and proto-Palpatine Laurence Olivier is terrific.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Also: he probably would have gotten good work from your boy John Turturro.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.chess-theory.com/image4/the_luzhin_defence.jpg
CHA BOY

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:15 (seventeen years ago) link

http://viatraveldesign.com/journal/archives/jturturro.jpg
YR CRAZY FOR THIS ONE STAN

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

hey paths of glory and the killing both make fantastic use of tim carey, who was totally a proto-turturro!

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"Would you want it any other way though? Would you want Dullea mugging for the camera wildly emoting? It's a Kubrick movie!

-- underpants of the gods, Thursday, April 5, 2007 4:03 PM (20 minutes ago)"

it was einer joek

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh.

underpants of the gods, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm sure everybody's seen this, but it's so good: [link=[Removed Illegal Link]

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z11B9L2awVA

Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

that shining trailer is lolz

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Having to choose among Barry Lyndon, 2001: A Space Odyssey
Dr Strangelove, and Paths of Glory is fairly arbitrary for me.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i voted for paths of glory before i saw alfred repping for it and now i want to take it back u_u

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

considering we're surrounded with ppl who routinely rank Kid A over OK Computer, I'm betting Barry Lyndon will win this poll.

-- Stevie D, Thursday, April 5, 2007 3:06 AM (5 hours ago)


???

sleep, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Barry Lyndon, Eyes Wide Shut and Full Metal Jacket look way better today than Clockwork.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i voted for paths of glory before i saw alfred repping for it and now i want to take it back u_u

BE A REBEL

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:13 (seventeen years ago) link

http://blogs.indiewire.com/reverseshot/archives/PathsFerrol.jpeg

ghost rider, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:16 (seventeen years ago) link

What I meant was, it's always seemed to me that OK Computer was Radiohead's clear winner (like, their undisputed magnum opus), and then here on ILX everyone seems to like Kid A better, which surprised me.

Similarly, while the usual pick for Best Kubrick seems to routinely be either 2001, Clockwork, or Strangelove; however, in recent years, Barry Lyndon (which was shunned for years) has been coming out from under the radar as the "critics' pick".

I don't know. It makes more sense to me in my head.

Stevie D, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
The Killing
Paths of Glory
The Shining
Dr Strangelove, or [etc]
Lolita
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Spartacus

have not seen:
Barry Lyndon
Killer's Kiss (
Fear and Desire

milo z, Thursday, 5 April 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

WHERE IS A.I????

Abbott, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ones I like, in order:
2001: A Space Odyssey
Full Metal Jacket
Dr Strangelove, or [etc]
The Killing
Lolita
Eyes Wide Shut
Barry Lyndon
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

then ones I don't like:
A Clockwork Orange -- borderline. i like parts of it but i disagree with its politics soooo much
The Shining -- not scary :(
Killer's Kiss

abanana, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised Spartacus ranks so low. Skip the Kirk Douglas-Jean Simmons scenes filmed on Astroturf. Rejoice in the crisp enunciations of potbellied English queens.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I might vote for Paths of Glory. Plucky underdog!

chap, Thursday, 5 April 2007 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

The Killing!

Reservoir Dogs but good.

DavidM, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

of the ones i've seen, here's my list (best first)

Barry Lyndon
Paths of Glory
The Killing
2001: A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Full Metal Jacket
Dr Strangelove
The Shining
Eyes Wide Shut

gershy, Thursday, 5 April 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Barry Lyndon
2001
The Shining

i really like those ones in that order. i do not like Dr Strangelove. i like OK computer more than Kid A. i do not like Amnesia.

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Amnesiac

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

:)

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:44 (seventeen years ago) link

faves:
2001
Barry Lyndon
Clockwork
Paths

but I love SK. Interesting the BL is being recognized as "critic's fave"; I wonder if it's been underrated for the reason that the people who saw it when it came out were bored by the pace compared to Clockwork, or the setting compared to 2001

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think it was underrated, was it? it's highly rated by critics. i just guess punters who haven't seen it think they might not like it (...costume drama BORING) so it's kind of ignored.

jed_, Friday, 6 April 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it was underrated at the time. I remember reading a Spielberg quote that was something like "yeah, I liked BL, but it was a bit like taking a walk through the Prado wasn't it?"

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, but Spielberg's a bit of a 'tard.

milo z, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:01 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, but in '76....? Anyway, BL is awesome, maybe the SK movie I've seen the most times.

Dominique, Friday, 6 April 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Spielberg was much more a tard back in the '70s than he is now.

Eric H., Friday, 6 April 2007 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e. throwing a fit on live TV when the Academy nominated Fellini instead of him

Eric H., Friday, 6 April 2007 06:30 (seventeen years ago) link

barry lyndon was a critical hit but a box office miss.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 6 April 2007 07:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, but not as unianimously as his others--as mentioned by Dominique, a lot of ppl apparently found the pace unbearably slow and boring.

Stevie D, Friday, 6 April 2007 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

none of his films were unanimous critical hits, though, not by a long shot. the new york critics hated '2001'.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 6 April 2007 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i wasn't even aware of his "fear and desire" movie. :-(

nathalie, Friday, 6 April 2007 09:43 (seventeen years ago) link

he disowned that and 'killer's kiss'. i almost didn't put them in the list.

That one guy that quit, Friday, 6 April 2007 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't like Kubrick really. But Barry Lyndon is my favorite movie of his, and one I don't really mind seeing over and over.

mercurialblonde, Friday, 6 April 2007 10:08 (seventeen years ago) link

A Clockwork Orange is in the top three worst films ever IMO (American Gigolo and The Talented Mr Ripley being the others).

FMJ FTW

Mark C, Friday, 6 April 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted Spartacus cos I like it the best, but I feel like it's not tremendously Kubrick-y and I love Kubrick a hell of a lot. He's one of those artists were I feel like people who don't get his work are from a strange and frightening planet that I'm glad I don't live on.

Noodle Vague, Friday, 6 April 2007 11:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Is Stevie D Tuomas in disguise?

Noodle Vague, Friday, 6 April 2007 12:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Fear and Desire! Has anyone actually seen this in the last decade? Ever?


Yes. (I snagged it off of the old secret-cinema site)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 6 April 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

A.I.????? WHERE IS IT?

Abbott, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting tidbit about a director who has written or co-written, with an exception, every film he's made:

Stanley is not a writer. He has always functioned better if he got a good writer and worked with him on a concept.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:02 (seven years ago) link

makes sense if you think of Jim Thompson, Terry Southern, Arthur Clarke, Frederic Raphael, but afaik SK did the adap of Lyndon himself.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link

apparently he also tossed the Nabokov script in the ashcan; it was very long and unfilmable.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:05 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, I knew that. For BL and ACO (also a solo credit) I think I read that he followed the Huston method for The Maltese Falcon: ask a secretary to re-type the novel in script format, then he'd edit it.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 25 September 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

we should do this again. i imagine Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut would place much higher now

flappy bird, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 07:34 (six years ago) link

Yeah i was surprised how low EWS (my number 1) was. Looking forward to watching it again over the season; soooo Christmass-y.

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 10:26 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Barry Lyndon on TV klaxon (BBC4, Sunday at 9pm)

— Hardcore for Nerds (@HC4N) April 27, 2019

j., Sunday, 28 April 2019 00:17 (five years ago) link

Can't believe I am finally going to watch this, unless the snooker is amazing

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:10 (five years ago) link

On a schoolnight?

milkshake chuk (wins), Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:11 (five years ago) link

knock that fucking billiards on't head - it's an alltime great movie!

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:15 (five years ago) link

It's how I roll.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link

Xp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:16 (five years ago) link

Yeah I know...I've missed screening after screening of this. But ya know Trump and Ding could be serving up a classic tonight.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:20 (five years ago) link

Filmworker is on Film4 at 00:30 tonight. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:37 (five years ago) link

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03174/barryl_3174963c.jpg
so many good performances in BL but Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

calzino, Sunday, 28 April 2019 10:44 (five years ago) link

Probably one of the most well-designed and photographed of films. The one-track coldness that Kubrick deals in really works to temper down the iffy (twee) source material.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:09 (five years ago) link

it is fucking gorgeous.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link

Patrick Magee's turn as The Chevalier is exceptional.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link

have to see Barry Lyndon again, I think I will really appreciate it, but also don't think it will replace 2001 as my personal favorite film of all time

Dan S, Sunday, 28 April 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

Gotta say it's the first one of his I've seen where I get what ppl are on about wrt Kubrick.

I don't think I've ever seen Patrick Magee be anything less than exceptional in anything.

*Looks at wiki* How much Hammer horror have you seen?

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 08:58 (five years ago) link

Magee only appeared in one Hammer film, the fairly obscure Demons of the Mind. He's in a fair few horror movies from Hammer's UK rival Amicus, tho.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 09:02 (five years ago) link

Yes, he did a lot of crap but he's a magnetic presence. Not exactly what you'd call a naturalistic actor, lol.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 09:23 (five years ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 10:28 (five years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, I love Hammer, Amicus, Tigon and all that guff.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:30 (five years ago) link

Clockwork Orange was showing at my local cinema and I missed out on seeing it. Been very long since I originally saw it, and I've never seen it at the cinema.

I love Barry Lyndon.

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 29 April 2019 10:46 (five years ago) link

I had Patrick Magee and Henry McGee confused in my mind for a minute there. Now that was a wild ride.

Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link

Benny Hill or Sam Beckett, both bring the LOLs, for sure.

Freddie Starr (Hitler in shorts) (Tom D.), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:49 (five years ago) link

up on iplayer (along with paths of glory and 2001)

devvvine, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:50 (five years ago) link

Cool it was striking to see someone in a few amazing films and then contrast with horror (I called it hammer only bcz of seeing discussion of their output on here is the extent of my knowledge) which I assume won't have as many demands placed on your actorly skill set (again another assumption)

One of the things I like about Magee is that he is giving exactly the same kind of performance in a Kubrick film as he is in a Freddie Francis film or vice/versa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OarsvZbhds&list=PL2AA217275C6F6CF0&index=7

Ward Fowler, Monday, 29 April 2019 18:28 (five years ago) link

Yeah thanks that was good.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 29 April 2019 21:29 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

This, from an interview with Vitali about Kubrick's soundtracks. His films through the 70s were mixed for the narrow frequency range of Academy Mono. There was an art to it. Optimizing them for digital adds lows and highs that were never in the original. It's akin to colorizing. pic.twitter.com/aemS2JmyXF

— Eric Dienstfrey (@SignalsToNoises) June 8, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 June 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Surprised Barry Lyndon doesn't have its own thread.

Mrs. America used some of BL's score tonight (prominently) during an awkward first meeting between Phyllis Schlafly and Jill Ruckelshaus (Republican, but very pro-ERA). Not sure what the meaning of that was (beyond the obvious, that it's 1976).

clemenza, Thursday, 21 May 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Sorry for spamming but can’t figure out which thread this is best on: http://www.ianwatson.info/plumbing-stanley-kubrick/

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:22 (one year ago) link

This is overdue for a repoll:

Stanley Kubrick RE-poll

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 21 August 2023 16:47 (one year ago) link

Great article James!

“If the Labourites ever get in,” he vowed, “I’ll leave the country.” He feared being ruined by tax-the-rich policies – though he never did quit Britain, doubtless because New Labour, finally elected in 1997, no longer bore much resemblance to a socialist party.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:15 (one year ago) link

It's funny because Emilio's memoir goes to great pains to dispel the myth of SK as the eccentric recluse (but just as much a demanding pain in the ass) maybe the truth of it is somewhere in the middle.

MaresNest, Monday, 21 August 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link

Seems like there is a documentary as well, S Is for Stanley.

Ansible Dave’s Killer Breadboard (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 August 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link


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