i have not been to a dentist in probably 10 years

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out of birch trees!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Not fake like aspartame or sucralose though - your body makes it too. And, you can cook with it apparently. Supposedly in Finland, most candies are made with it? Tuomas?

Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

It never occured to me that flouridated water might be why my teef are fine with very little effort. Also, I had to endure foul tasting weekly flouride mouth soakings when I had braces - you'd dissolve a "bubblegum" flavour tablet in water, then sit with the chemically fizz in your mouth for 10 minutes or more. No swallowing! It tasted so gross, I cannot stand the smell or taste of bubblegum anymore.

I dont understand this deep cleaning, bloody gum pockets (!!), wtf is wrong with you peoples mouths!? :/ I cant help feeling flossing is mostly bad for ones gums - it can cut the gums, and that isnt good. I only ever floss when I have actual food stuck in my teeth.

I am also strongly suspicous that some more shifty dentists will tell people they need cavities for no reason, to make more money. I mean obviously if you have a painful tooth, you know you need one. But what if you go for a checkup and suddenly you need a mouthful? I say - go see another dentist!

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

if your dentist is telling you that you need cavities I suggest etc

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Went last week- firt time in 2 years.

I floss every day. Probably 364 out of 365 for the last 10 years.

They were like "oMG you never ever floss we can tell from your gingivitis"

I was like "bitch when i was a kid i had real gingivitis and knoe what it feels like. I floss every night and if you are not listening to me you are a quack."

They told me I needed $1300 in dental work (no insurance) i was like fuck that i'm going elsewhere for a 2nd opinion. That was a fucking scary dentist visit.

-rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Trayce, when you get old as me (which is close to 50, although it can happen younger esp. in smokers), it's rare to get cavities but common to have mild to moderate gum disease. Flossing isn't just about getting out stuck food, but scraping off the sticky bacterial plaque that forms on teeth. If you don't get rid of it, the plaque starts to form below the gumline and breaks the seal (in a way) between healthy gum and tooth. You might not have any pain or anything, but your gums will be inflamed, and will bleed and get tender with normal brushing. The gums pull away from the teeth, letting more bacteria in, eventually it attacks the bone and your teeth loosen and fall out. This is what happened to my mom, and I don't want it to happen to me. Once the bacterial crap has started in below the gumline, the hygienistas go in with lasers and knives and heavy artillery and blast it out w/ the deep cleaning. Then, if yr diligent, the gums can heal up and reattach to the tooth. For me, diligent means blasting away with water every day instead of that horrid string floss (which not only cuts but can loosen fillings), peroxide rinsing (extra O2 nails the anaerobic bacteria), going for regular cleanings every 4 months (down from every 3) and now trying this new stuff. Which, thank the tooth fairy, seems to be working.

Rainbow bum - good luck with a second opinion, sometimes I think they are just trying to pay off their in-chair tv systems and such.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Jaq: hrm, I see. That makes sense, but it still confuses me, cos flossing is just about getting out stuff in the tight spaces between teeth, innit? Scraping the plaque off with floss makes me wonder what I'm not doing, heh :/

Trayce (trayce), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I think toothbrushing does the job on most tooth surfaces, but the floss is supposed to get to where the brush can't reach.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i went to the dentist last weekend for the first time since i was at school, and it turns out that my wisdom teeth have both come through without me noticing. this would be good because it means they didn't hurt, however one has come through at an odd angle which means that mere toothbrushing was insufficient to clean it, and it has been hurting, and it is decaying, and i have to go into HOSPITAL to have it REMOVED, and now i am reliant on nhs waiting lists to get to it before the decay reaches the nerve :(

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:57 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I occassionally get in there and scrape off tartar with the tip of my pocketknife. Better than nothing, I guess.

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link

this was the best ad campaign ever

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timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:22 (eighteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
i went last night, first time in about 10 years.

I have to have a tooth removed, she put two injections in me last night and one was in the roof of my mouth - absolute fucking agony.

She gave me a double dosage of anesthetic but unfortunately it didn't affect the tooth area.
It did however result in half my face collapsing and my right eye twitching madly for six hours.

Ste, Thursday, 15 March 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

went for first time in ten years in january - root canal, several fillings, heavy stuff. BUT it didn't hurt, it didn't cost TOO MUCH, and my mouth doesn't hurt anymore. result.

stevie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

My mother hasn't been in maybe 20 years, argh, not because she's not covered but because she's terrified. I've been trying really hard to make her go but she refuses.. meanwhile, all her teeth around the back are decaying and falling out at a pretty alarming rate.

What's the best way to get someone to go to the dentist outside duress?

Roz, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link

tell her the only teeth she needs to get checked are the ones she wants to keep

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I also haven't been in nearly this long. :( And I do have coverage. :(

One of the main things that keeps from going is knowing the dentist will bawl me out for waiting so long. boo.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

sam you should change dentists then!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, I'm trying to imagine going to the dentist like going to confession or something "Forgive me, Doctor for I have sinned, I have not been to the dentist in EIGHTEEN YEARS but I brush every day and floss" and he will send you home with five fillings and a Hail Mary.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

the dentist will bawl me out for waiting so long

Exactly why I went to an NHS walk-in dental place, and they were a lot more pleasant than other dentists I've had.

Ste, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

sam you should change dentists then!

haha, I don't even have one! The last dentist I saw was about five cities ago.

Ms Misery, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

tell her the only teeth she needs to get checked are the ones she wants to keep.

I have. Didn't work. It's funny, she can run a boys' high school and occassionally be the most frightening person in the world but really, she's a wuss.

Roz, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad I finally went, but between my dental work and my daughter's, they're skinning me alive $$$-wise.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

2 extractions & a filling = I look like I've been in a bar brawl but it was painless and I got it on the NHS so it's all good mostly. Would like mouth to thaw so I can have a kebab tho.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

i am going to the dentist tomorrow, for the first time in 10+ years

n/a, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

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Mr. Que, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i am afraid to even read this thread because i have not been to dentist in like 3-4 years

deej, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

well i hadn't been in almost 10 yrs and now i need a bunnnnch of stuff done. but it's the way of the world. it'll get doine. my benefits are oK.

you know, we don't realize that these scary dentist ppl, they see a LOT of really bad teeth

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i have a $600 dentist bill -- anyone have any hints for negotiating it down

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

can anyone recommend a dr in ny in the cigna network? i gotta go through my hmo...

bell_labs, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i dunno i'm about to be on Empire in NY... meeting with the Benefits woman today.

Dr. Michael Herman is really great, 128 Central Park South I think. not sure if he's on cigna but maybe worth cheking

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa Guardian is like really good, my new dental plan

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't nkow why i said Empire before, what the hell is that

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

bell labs, ask these people:

http://www.docnet.org/physicians/phys_bios.asp?phys_id=1635

they are pretty pricey as far as dentists go, but they are GREAT. I TRUST them. I broke a tooth after not going to the dentist for 5 years. Went to some mcdentist who said I'd need a root canal when the dr was in next week and untill then there was nothing they could do and that I should just avoid eating with that tooth. BREATHING hurt. I went to the linked dentist the next day, nice little office in brooklyn heights. She said I might not need a root canal, I didn't get one, got a crown instead, and she put some temp ceramics on it to cover up the exposed parts prior to the crown.

And as i've said many many times. The tooth breaking SUCKED. It hurst and cost LOTS of money. Get cleanings and check-ups every 6 months people and don't let that happen.

And that dentists other device was to get a Phillips Sonicaire Toothbrush. I did and it was great. I stopped using it after a while and hadn't been there for 3 years. Went back and recently, had major cleaning and now am using the Philips again. It's expensive, but it's worth it. It's like getting your teeth cleaned every day. It's not one of those 20 buck ones that just spin around.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

who's your dentist in brooklyn heights?

Surmounter, Monday, 26 November 2007 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

see the link.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll try them - lauren told me about a dentist who sounds great, but they don't take my insurance, and i'm afraid i will need stuff done.

bell_labs, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I can't recommend her enough. You can go cheaper, hell, there's about a dozen dentists in queens right outside of the 7 train that offer real bargains AND free electric toothbrushes, but dental care isn't something I'm looking to get a bargain in. And if you have good coverage...when I had all that work done (the crown, etc) I had Met Life and it covered most of it.

I now have some shitty plan care of Freelancer's Union, and have yet to see how that'll pan out.

dan selzer, Monday, 26 November 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

and I got it on the NHS

how do you do that? last time i needed any dental work done (all wisdom teeth out, 2000 - eek, 7 years...), i filled in all the forms and sent off all the proof cos i was so sure i would qualify - i was making like £200 a week gross (so, what, £168 net?) and living in london - i remember reading in the metro about average wages and discovering i was below the poverty line - and they told me i did not qualify for any help whatsoever.

emsk, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link

We managed to register with an NHS dentist. We still have to pay charges, but my check-up and the subsequent treatment I had today are charged at NHS rate which is less than 50 quid for everything. I think if you have below a certain income you have to pay less, maybe right down to nothing. But the standard NHS charges aren't means tested and they're still a lot lower than private charges.

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 November 2007 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ok thanks. i am so confused! i didn't go private, i specifically asked about nhs dentists... ohwell. maybe next time.

emsk, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link

The charges might've been a lot different in the past tho. The poster on the NHS site here says "since April 2006".

Noodle Vague, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm so squeamish about bodies, teeth & especially gums that I didn't go for twelve years, and when I did I had to have nine fillings and three pure-black wisdom teeth chopped out of my gob. It was a good job I was on the dole at the time - it all came free and I got some sedation for the squeams thrown in.

That was three years ago, though, and recently, while eating a fucking ciabatta that I didn't even want, one of those big fillings came out, or a quarter of a tooth did -- I swallowed it and I'm no expert anyway -- and I have to begin again I reckon, this time paying, I suppose.

Eyeball Kicks, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

All four of my wisdom teeth have impacted...it wld cost $1200 to get them removed. I am kind of nervous abt spending this; I can fit it in my budget but it will hurt my 'oh shit my dog ate a tractor' emergency savings. Will my mouth be like 'eh, don't worry bout taking out those 4 weird choppers, we've grpwn used to them," or will it be like, "When will you please fucking mutiny these supposedly wise teeth, we are getting twisted into uselessness." ???

Abbott, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

impacted meaning 'grown out,' I am 98% sure I am using it correctly but wanted to clarify in case I hadn't

Abbott, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I've got decent medical insurance, but the dental plan kinda blows. I always feel like I've been gipped every time I get a standard cleaning, so I end up going maybe once every couple of years. I'm a 2/3 times a day brusher and fairly regular floss-a. I'm probably tempting fate, but goddam I really hate going to the dentist.

will, Monday, 26 November 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i haven't been to the dentist since i was 15, and i only have one filling. i'm thinking i should get a check-up before i leave the country but i'm too scared about what might be secretly wrong with my teeth.

Rubyredd, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Do it before you have to pay for it w/insurance! You will seriously, seriously not regret it and it's probably nowhere near as bad as you think (went to the dentist for the first time in seven years to find "look ma, no cavities!").

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Oops, I mean before you move to U.S., the country where you will get no decent insurance, if any at all.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think impacted means anything until they start getting cavities or somehow going wrong on you? I think the reason dentists take out most people's wisdom teeth is that a) sometimes they're pressuring other teeth, b) they're harder to reach behind and tend to get cavities, and c) dentistry is a business. But if you have nice hard resistant enamel to begin with, maybe you'll NEVER get cavities in them! Just brush, mouth wash, whatever, be good to yr teefs.

If, sometime in yr adult life with a job & insurance, they show signs of problems and have to come out while your body still heals pretty well/quickly, then fine. I suppose one wouldn't want to be like sixty-something and then have to have major oral surgery with older-person healing times. But that's a long ways off.

Laurel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

That seems sensible & accurate. It's what I suspected, that it wasn't a danger will robinson thing & could be tended to when I have a Real Job.

Abbott, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 01:34 (sixteen years ago) link


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