2008 Primaries Thread

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Condi has her own challenges, sure. Maybe she doesn't belong on the list. But I can totally see her talking football with the folks.

gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

or about pussy with Thompson.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

oh DEAR

gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

She talks about pussy with everyone so that's not a stretch.

HI DERE, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

oh the zings

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

did I mention I have a family member serving as Condi's bodyguard

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

oh the stories I wish he would tell me

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

picard.jpg

gff, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.impawards.com/1996/posters/bound_ver1.jpg

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

can we get back to race relations again for a minute.

i know this was covered in this thread and the old one, but how do blacks view obama's background in terms of race and class? (not there is one answer for one group of people, obv)

i ask because i was watching a some reruns of the chapelle show late last night. and i was watching this "race draft" skit. tiger woods, played by chappelle w/the 'dorky white guy voice', is drafted by the blacks and it occurred to me that, like tiger woods, obama isn't (at least in one sense) 'black'

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think Mikulski is out.

jaymc, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:35 (sixteen years ago) link

(quite a revelation, i know)

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

oops that was an xpost to myself

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

there were many many months in the media (i.e. FOX) where the headlines were all like "IS OBAMA BLACK ENOUGH?" as though there would suddenly be some anti-Obama backlash and every black person would vote for Fred Thompson

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard a few black people say they weren't sure Obama was black enough but they also went on to say that they never voted anyway so I kind of tuned them out.

HI DERE, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:41 (sixteen years ago) link

lol

obviously obama is 'blacker' than alan keys

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

i was watching one of the cable news channels and on the news scrawl it said jesse jackson is supporting obama, but his wife did a radio ad for hillary in south carolina

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:42 (sixteen years ago) link

so maybe its just bros vs hos

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

obama is black enough to not get elected.

tremendoid, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

thats controversial

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

if i were to place a cash bet today on who'd be president i would def. pick obama

artdamages, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean no offense but i'm in no mood to assuage sudden white hand-wringing over the one-drop rule in 2008. fuck off, vote for him or don't.

tremendoid, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

grrr said i wouldn't post here, i've taken to cynicism with a born again fervor and when the dems lose I'MA GET PAID

tremendoid, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I honestly can't conceive of a scenario where the Dems lose this election - barring some sort of unpredictable, world-shattering event that completely changes the playing field

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

THIS JUST IN: BRITNEY GETS CUSTODY

HI DERE, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Dems screwed now

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link

http://thepage.time.com/letter-to-afscme-president-mcentee

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

who is he kidding

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

don't think that line will last long if bradley's on the ticket

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i mean no offense but i'm in no mood to assuage sudden white hand-wringing over the one-drop rule in 2008. fuck off, vote for him or don't.

-- tremendoid, Monday, January 7, 2008 11:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

sounds like you got your own issues. i just think its interesting. and, you know, maybe what the american public or factions thereof think about race is complicated.

artdamages, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

omarobama bradley

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

apparently obama in a decent baller himself

jhøshea, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

"i too was seduced by jfk" - hillary staffer on the radio

artdamages, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

if hilary people are conceding obama is jfk like then its over for her

artdamages, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

it seems like today is the day the media decided this shit is over

jhøshea, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

artdamages you're right and i'm sorry and no fucking duh it's complicated URGE TO KILL RISING uh again i'm sorry.

tremendoid, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

its cool

artdamages, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

i happened to be thinking about the question of obama, his race, his candidacy, and the possibility of his presidency, and I couldn't help but wonder -- and this is optimistic -- that an obama presidency could prove to be a profound touchstone for a conversation about race on a scale that this country hasn't seen since the civil rights era. whether people describe him as african-american, as 'acceptably black,' as multiracial, or however, everyone is going to have an opinion on the subject, and his candidacy is not going pass unremarked on this issue.

i just hope the process is more productive than ilx racism threads.

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

A survey taken late last month for CBS found that nearly 40% of black voters in South Carolina believed the country was not "ready to elect a black president," compared with 34% of whites -- a sentiment that Obama aides viewed as a far greater impediment to his election than flat-out racism among those who would never vote for him anyway.

deej, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

two out of three of my black coworkers I interact with on a daily basis were retreading the "gonna get shot" narrative angle the morning after iowa

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:01 (sixteen years ago) link

retreading the "gonna get shot" narrative

this had occurred to me, too ;_;

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:05 (sixteen years ago) link

deej, source?

elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i just hope the process is more productive than ilx racism threads.

dear obama,
hollertronix c/d?
also, u want to rock y/n?
thx!

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

p.s.
kill whitey?

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Do you think this is also affecting Democrats voting for Obama?

Maybe in a few cases - I don't really think this dynamic is responsible for a large percentage of Obama support from either side though.

o. nate, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, Hillary promises to abolish the FAFSA

she's actually doing pretty well in full-throated mode in this rally i'm watching. it helps that she isn't at the royal distance from the audience.

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

lol, "we should even have a government blogging team"

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

by tomorrow morning, she'll be smoking weed and playing Wii

gabbneb, Tuesday, 8 January 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link


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