This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2007

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1105 of them)

and for you extreme fans, he has his first directorial effort since then coming out next Friday:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0466893/

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 14:51 (sixteen years ago) link

it could be ok. i can barely remember YCCOM and would not put it in a list, except maybe 'us quasi-indie movies after us quasi indie movies stopped being interesting.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 15 November 2007 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i like YCCOM a whole lot.

Chereau's "Gabrielle" is incredible and unlike anything i've ever seen -whether or not this makes him an innovator is moot but it does make him someone whose work i'm suddenly very interested in.

jed_, Thursday, 15 November 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

but does it posess the genius of Reno 911: Miami?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

and for you extreme fans, he has his first directorial effort since then coming out next Friday:

Oh wow, that's fantastic. I was just thinking yesterday, in the midst of our debate, that he should make another movie.

jaymc, Thursday, 15 November 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

where it'll be released, I don't know. Don't see a NYC venue.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I like that three cast members from YCCOM are in the new one, too (Broderick, Ruffalo, and Culkin).

jaymc, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Circles and Squares is much better written than the Sarris piece that prompted it, and in general Pauline is more fun to read than Andy and does a billion times better job than him at describing what it was like to be her while she was watching something- so good in fact that she never felt the desire to watch a movie twice, never ever! And yet, it just might be possible that despite years of heavy-handed writing and proselytizing people backed down a little from that original auteurist zeal without throwing the baby out with the watering hose- the same way they backed down from the idea that the novel and the stage were dead and the film was going to replace them- and actually incorporated some of Kael's criticisms and widened the circles (and squares) to include variations, exceptions, qualifications, etc. like "The Studio As Auteur" for example. Me, I am not a good enough viewer to get everything in one sitting, I need to watch again once I know what the director is going to show to be able to see how he is going to show it. Anyway my favorite critic of the two is probably Sarris's wife, Molly Haskell.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, now that I've gone all blountastic on your a$$es, I'm gonna go check on my tcm thread and Akim Tamiroff thread and think about going home tonight to curl up with my Criterions and dream of Hollywood Babylon.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

ken, will you ever use Demarest's exclamation "DAUGHTERS!" on your girls?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, Morbius, I can see it coming.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

This facial expression comes pretty naturally to me.
http://www.nndb.com/people/975/000078741/demarest03.jpg

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Alba seems to have good taste in movies

gabbneb, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

it depends whether she finds Julianne Moore annoying.

(only in Safe)

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

B-b-but Alba is a man, Doctor!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

OK. I don't keep track of that stuff.

anyway, did Julie Christie's perf come too early for hardware?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link

Are you referring to The Demon Seed?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

'Cause that came out in '77.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link

lol. I just noticed last night that Maltin gave Demon Seed 3-1/2 stars.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

my rough top 25 or so thus far:

(*not commercially released)

(Killer of Sheep, if it counts)
The Wind That Shakes the Barley
*Passio
I'm Not There
Away from Her
The Simpsons Movie
Offside
Ratatouille (US, Brad Bird)
12:08 East of Bucharest
Bamako
Brand Upon the Brain! (US, Guy Maddin)Summer '04
*The Unforeseen
*Glue
Lady Chatterley
No End in Sight
Sunshine
In Between Days
*Euphoria
I Don't Want to Sleep Alone
Manufactured Landscapes
Zodiac
*Silent Light
Syndromes and a Century
Sicko
The Decomposition of the Soul
The Host

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Forget I started this thread.

Eric H., Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

xp: uh that's kinda fuctup, but you get the idea.

(Summer '04 is a title)

no Eric, otherwise the video clerks win.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I want none of you people to win.

Eric H., Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Vive la guerre.

Eric H., Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I Love Film No More Forever.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Personne n'a vécu dans le passé. Personne ne vivra dans le futur. Le présent est la forme de toute vie.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

i like everything i've seen on morbius' list (admittedly only like four movies) except "the simpsons movie"!?!?!?! so terrible!

n/a, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone hear sumpin?

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2003/11/07/images/west_side_story_screengrab_1.jpg

How many bullets are left in this gun?

Eric H., Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.chucksconnection.com/westside/westside3.jpg
Keep cooly cool, boy!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Dang
http://www.chucksconnection.com/westside/westside3.jpg
Keep cooly cool, boy!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 15 November 2007 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

you don't need to write your own scripts to be an auteur.

the original definition was used for, like, alfred hitchcock.

who didn't write his own scripts.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

the simpsons movie sucked shit

s1ocki, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

you crazy

bnw, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I agree that THIS is the thread to debate what an auteur is, though I still think its basically a meaningless term (really another redundancy like "filmic"), though it might actually mean something if it described directors who brought their own ideas to life from the blank page to the editing room rather than filmmakers who are "filmic."

x-post re: simpsons movie, yeah a "stop seeing mall movies" dis doesn't really sting from somebody repping that.

da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

hitch didn't write his own scripts, but he spent lots of time with the screenwriters acting out the scripts he wanted. like lubitsch.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sure fincher did that with his xbox ad

da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

You made yr 'populist' retard thread bed, nrq, now stew in it. Don't bring the shit here.

Redd OTM Hitchcock commonly co/re-wrote his scripts without screen credit, as many directors have always done.

ON TOPIC, Oscar Foreign Film submissions:

http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/2007/07.10.17a.html

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

mad overrated: Zodiac (more like zzzzzodiac, amirite), Ratatouille (Incredibles much better!)

bnw, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Create a Super-ILXer!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

lol populist retard thread bed

that's pretty good.

s1ocki, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

ratatouille was pretty meh too

s1ocki, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

hitch didn't write his own scripts, but he spent lots of time with the screenwriters acting out the scripts he wanted. like lubitsch.

-- James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, November 16, 2007 3:34 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah but so does fincher. and hitchcock seldom wrote dialogue.

itchcock commonly co/re-wrote his scripts without screen credit,

maybe -- even more famously hitchcock never credited his collaborators.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

so BAFTA didn't submit the Gaelic language film SEACHD after all. that's a shame.

xpost to Morbius.

jed_, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

The Simpsons Movie (somewhat less so Ratatouille) got me emotionally involved, unlike nearly all of Zodiac.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I think you need to see more mall movies

da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Though I'm definitely in the "what's the big deal about Zodiac" camp.

da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

you liked 'spider-man 3'

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Damn straight!

da croupier, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

more of a populist retard thread discussion point i guess.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 16 November 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.