[ADMIN] Meta bitching - enough.

and I believe that there has been a change in the character of the community since 03 and likely earlier.

dom's characterisation of old ilx -- not to mention tom's livejournal -- is pretty slanted and poisonous (and typically clever, of course), but the point he's making is quite right: any attempt to return to an old regime that never existed would be a terrible idea, as well as a pointless one, and this isn't that

Or set up ITR2 to move them to.

-- Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 21:56 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This is actually a good idea.

mark s OTM.

Call it "The internet's premier message board for xkcd fans"

xp

And for what it's worth, ILX seemed WAY nastier in '05 than it does now...

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=77&threadid=48#unread

I remember that when Dom first showed up, a lot of people dumped on him mercilessly whenever he said something even tangentially related to football/soccer and also mocked him for not really being British. I can totally see why his memories of old ILE/ILM are what they are.

xp: lol Jordan

yeah!

ha...ha? xp

I remember that when Dom first showed up, a lot of people dumped on him mercilessly whenever he said something even tangentially related to football/soccer and also mocked him for not really being British.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:17 (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

It's like a Zadie Smith novel.

Dom what people say on friends-only Livejournals about real life situations (ie almost by their definition personal) is irrelevant to this debate. Then again I wasn't on the aforementioned friends list.

Steve, I'm lolling at posting another thread that no one on 77 can read. You'd think people would actually stop doing this...?

Admin Log would be lots of code and is unlikely to ever happen like it was, but I agree it's counter-productive to have posts and threads vanish without explanation, as nobody will know what's going on, and we need to be transparent to make this work.

The idea upthread about ITR2 is a good one, and I'll get that set up. We also shouldn't delete any posts from the threads -- if a post needs to go, we'll just take out its content and leave a placeholder.

can we compile all the personal attack posts in one thread so I can catch up? preferably with annotations about the offboard stuff so I can have context. thnkx

hm. what should it be called? xp

I remember that when Dom first showed up, a lot of people dumped on him mercilessly whenever he said something even tangentially related to football/soccer and also mocked him for not really being British. I can totally see why his memories of old ILE/ILM are what they are.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

^^ I thought this same thing

Dom what people say on friends-only Livejournals about real life situations (ie almost by their definition personal) is irrelevant to this debate. Then again I wasn't on the aforementioned friends list.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:18 (7 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Pretty sure, say, "starry sarah" has never hung out with "Catsup Dude", Matt. But you're right. All I'm saying is there was a lot of poison in old ILX that has been thankfully bled out. Bodies tend to develop resistance to most non-lethaltoxins, right?

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Steve, I'm lolling at posting another thread that no one on 77 can read. You'd think people would actually stop doing this...?

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:19 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

its a thread where ppl joke about ppl saying 'actually...' when they are surprised about liking a song someone has recommended or equivalent, in this case referring to pashmina saying ACTUALLY dom has a good idea

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lets never use the word "actually" on 77

-- max, Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:15 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

this word is for jerks

-- max, Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:15 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Link

I think one thing that has REALLY got my back up over the last year or so is the way people pull up old threads and ridicule stuff that got posted back then. ILM/ILE back in those days was a tiny, obscure board, it wasn't google indexed, many of the regulars had known each other both on and off-line for years before it started. People who weren't in on it from day one generally found it by accident. Of course people were more open about personal stuff! But to drag it up and hold it up as if the boards were like they are now back then is really dishonest and disingenious.

stet just call it thread dump or something equally neutral.

I do overuse "actually". Also "I must admit".

Dom why are you so incredibly butthurt about sarah or someone dissing you off-board? it's pretty obvious why some people would dislike you no?

Can we call it TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE? I kind of miss seeing that, in a strange way.

so we're not allowed to post umad.jpg anymore?

On the secret board thread last month, Nabisco made a comment that seemed to me right, which was that a number of posters seemed to want a "gated community" for themselves and a handful of others, rather than an open one. I don't know how things were in the early days, but what he said seems right to me about 2008. I think the meta stuff is part of this: alienate those you don't want in your community, so that you can get rid of them.

It's irrelevant now whether old ILX was that way or not.

I don't think the gated community thing is good, and I'd like to see the moderators try to push back against this by pushing against the meta.

Stuff that happens on other (IE non-ILX) boards & lists is stuff that neither I nor any of the other mods can do anything about. I don't even care about it! As long as people don't bring it back here. If you want to address it, address it there.

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Dom why are you so incredibly butthurt about sarah or someone dissing you off-board? it's pretty obvious why some people would dislike you no?

-- blueski, Tuesday, 20 May 2008 23:22 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

How am I butthurt? All I'm saying is, old ILX was hideously poisonous, and the people who were on it still are, long after it's been made clear they're not wanted by the majority of sensible, reasonable people on this board. I'm with Pash on this one.

you should make it invite-only :o)

xxposts I give everyone on ILX permission to post umad.gif after my posts

Live and let live, that's my motto.

People are far too concerned with a. destroying ile b. the death of ile. Who the hell cares either way? Life goes on...

-- Nicole, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

So the abused becomes the abuser, Curtis?

Who are you thinking of, Dom?

are we allowed to call for posters to be "banned"

I think one thing that has REALLY got my back up over the last year or so is the way people pull up old threads and ridicule stuff that got posted back then. ILM/ILE back in those days was a tiny, obscure board, it wasn't google indexed, many of the regulars had known each other both on and off-line for years before it started. People who weren't in on it from day one generally found it by accident. Of course people were more open about personal stuff! But to drag it up and hold it up as if the boards were like they are now back then is really dishonest and disingenious.

I am with you on this one, is it worth lock threads beyond a certain date?

All I'm saying is, old ILX was hideously poisonous, and the people who were on it still are, long after it's been made clear they're not wanted by the majority of sensible, reasonable people on this board.

Riiiiight.

it's just words on a computer screen

is it worth lock threads beyond a certain date?

you'd have to search for all the potentially-zingable ones.

luckily a few people on ilx already did this.

is it worth lock threads beyond a certain date?

I would oppose this fwiw.

People are far too concerned with a. destroying ile b. the death of ile. Who the hell cares either way? Life goes on...

-- Nicole, Wednesday, 5 December 2001 01:00 (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

-- Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:26 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Tedious rote responses to certain posters, especially the use of repeated image "zings".

trying to stop this would be insane

I am with you on this one, is it worth lock threads beyond a certain date?

there is such thing as a relevant revival though

i can't talk about any dramas that may have happened between 2002-6 but i do remember an awful lot of bitching at FAPs about people not present

From 7 years ago? Why not start a new thread and discuss it afresh?

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Plenty of threads do get revived for perfectly valid reasons, people want to talk about the subject, some news event relevant to the thread and so on, so I wouldn't be too into having threads before a certain date auto-locked, personally.

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I understand per mark s that you can't recapture the past, but I would object to the locking of old threads and would advocate (with the understanding that search is difficult, especially for newer posters) more encouragement/obligation to search for/revive old threads to establish a sense of board history/age and identity and the conversation that has already been had.