Bernard Manning Has Died

Well he did release two of the most memorable football songs ever

True Lies was a stinker tho

What Pash said.

Cameron made a football record? I thought the only ball game he knew was the Eton Wall game.

Also, re that tirade against Peter Cook. I didn't know pete was "in character"!!

Farewell and god bless to a real comedian. He only put into words what we wanted to hear, jokes about present day life. If that meant immigrants or sexual deviants then so be it, that is life.
A PC comedian is as funny as paint drying, we need to laugh about things to stop them from getting us down.

- John, Tendring, England

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=462884&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

OTT discussion/reminiscences conspicuously absent from Tiswas Revisited prog.

CONSPIRACY OF JOHN

xxp
r these people living in 1990

It's a cop out to say that because you tell jokes about everyone equally your material should not be deemed as offensive. Like it or not Bernard Manning's humour did appeal more to the bigoted than anyone else although they would be the last to acknowledge their bigotry.

- Kathy Jones, Herts, England

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Yes, I was wondering about that myself.

Manning's act was also really dated in race terms: lots of jokes about first generation black (Carribean, I suppose) immigrants, no material about asylum seekers or Poles. If you can't even be bothered to keep your racism up to date...

Indeed, he was past it years ago, like 15 years ago

It's like Freddie Starr surviving for 40 years on the same 40-year-old act, i.e. his Jagger will always be "Not Fade Away" and so on and so forth. His relative lack of exposure on TV (doing his act, as opposed to appearing on chat shows) probably worked in Manning's favour since he behaved exactly like the music hall acts of the pre-TV era, ceaselessly working the country with the same ten-minute act for decades.

you'd think black people would stop going to the gigs after that many years!

The thing Ailsa is referring to, IIRC, was a coppers' night out, so dude probably didn't have much choice. The unexpurgated version of it is... eye-opening, I daresay it's online somewhere

not as funny as the time the BNP booked that black DJ for one of their do's.

Manning's act was also really dated in race terms: lots of jokes about first generation black (Carribean, I suppose) immigrants, no material about asylum seekers or Poles. If you can't even be bothered to keep your racism up to date...

But he did update it. Didn't you read his own obituary?

Indeed, my act was an equally big success on the other side of the Atlantic, though I had to adapt his material for American audiences. So Irish jokes became Polish ones, such as: "This Polish man gets a job in Californian zoo. One day a workmate says to him, "For $2,000, would you have sex with the gorilla in that cage?"

"The Pole thinks for a minute and then says, "Yeah, all right. But on three conditions. First, that I don't have to kiss her. Second, that you don't tell any of my mates. And third, that you give me a fortnight to get the money together"."

I supposed the animal rights lobby would get me on that one.

Those pesky animal rights lobbys. Is there a comprehensive list of members of the PC Brigade?

xxxpost

Seriously who do all these people banging on about "the antidote to PC comedians" even have in mind?

"A good racist comedian will always whup a bad PC one"

(xxp) No no no, that's not an update, that's just substituting Irish=Thick UK bigotry for Polish=Thick US bigotry - both of which are out of date anyway (well, Irish=Thick is anyway). A modern Polish joke would more likely be about them working all hours for hardly any money...

... like, when I said (to Ailsa I think) about Celtic's useless Polish centre forward Maciej Zurawski, "He must the least hard working Pole in Britain". Y'see, I'm a racist comic who does keep up to date.

Hopefully this will see a return of John Thomsons's mid 90s comedy creation Bernard Right-On. "A Jew, a Pakistani, and a black fellow are drinking in a pub together. What a lovely example of an integrated community."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svLyyzBC_qI

bernard right-on

My bad, I misread 'adapt' as 'update', and thought it was funny that he was just reinforcing that his "I just make jokes about things that are funny" is really just "my jokes are based on stereotypes".

Obv.

The BBC Breakfast News woman seemed even more emotional than usual today - I just saw a bit where she was holding up his obituary thing in the Mail as if he'd suffered the greatest injustices ever.

Bernard Manning - the People's Racist

I thought that was Emily Parr

... no, my mistake, she is "The Racist of Hearts"

It's like Freddie Starr surviving for 40 years on the same 40-year-old act, i.e. his Jagger will always be "Not Fade Away" and so on and so forth.

to be fair it's not like jagger's moved far beyond the mid-sixties either.

Then again, faced with a choice of Bernard Manning and Jeremy Hardy...

He should really think about adding a Louis J routine to his act (xp)

What are Mick Jagger's views on veteran ostrich-straddling funnyman Bernie Clifton?

Tom Hibbert's Bernard Manning interview in Q to thread.

Your wish is my command... (Hopefully these will load ok)

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He really was a charmer, wasn't he?

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the writer there really comes across as a bit of a prick.

We British used to have a saying: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it". Since the election of New Labour in 1997, our country has been hijacked by a wicked Left wing attitude which, like all Left wing attitudes, involves control. Bernard Manning told jokes which were caricatures of people's behaviour. We all know that people's behaviour is determined by their age, sex, gender, race, culture, political beliefs, religion, etc. It is all of these elements that make us what we are. As soon as you behave in a way that makes you stand out from the crowd, you will be noticed and some people will make comments about it. Bernard Manning insulted people with humour. If you were on the receiving end, I can understand why you would not like it, but words were as far as he went. He did not commit gun crime, knife crime, drug crime, plant bombs, or kidnap people and execute them. The Left has sympathy with all of these criminals, but not Bernard.

- Mr. J. Smith, Birmingham, England

the writer there really comes across as being a bit of a prick.

The Left has to do something about it, not Bernard.

hahaha.

The otherwise inept compere at a Stepney comedy club the other night suggested we honour his memory with a minute's racism.

didn't he do a lot of sexist jokes as well?

He told jokes about 'em all Steve, and what's more they all came in his club, and they loved it. Each and every single one of them.

I also thought Dom was joking about the "RACIST IN PEACE" headline.

We British used to have a saying: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it". Since the election of New Labour in 1997, our country has been hijacked by a wicked Left wing attitude which, like all Left wing attitudes, involves control. Bernard Manning told jokes which were caricatures of people's behaviour. We all know that people's behaviour is determined by their age, sex, gender, race, culture, political beliefs, religion, etc. It is all of these elements that make us what we are. As soon as you behave in a way that makes you stand out from the crowd, you will be noticed and some people will make comments about it. Bernard Manning insulted people with humour. If you were on the receiving end, I can understand why you would not like it, but words were as far as he went. He did not commit gun crime, knife crime, drug crime, plant bombs, or kidnap people and execute them. The Left has sympathy with all of these criminals, but not Bernard.
- Mr. J. Smith, Birmingham, England

Is the BBC news site always crawling with people like that, or do they only come out of the woodwork when there's a flagpole for them to rally around?

Most of them are bored uni students taking the piss.

If only this were true

See also: Teletext letters pages

the one with all the kids calling themselves "Masked Purple Penguin" and stuff on the "teenage" bit on channel 4?

"We British used to have a saying: "I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it"."

Not true Mr Smith of Birmingham. Voltare said it and he was French.

- Lemongrass, London, England

froggy onion breath surrender monkey cheese eating bastards.

Nah, the "have your say" type stuff with people saying "let's have no more letters from the PC brigade about X" and going on about bringing back national service and Christmas being cancelled to avoid offending suicide bombers and stuff

and don't forget the 'black' binbags.