the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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Really, all of the movies are too long and slowly paced for him to really get into yet.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are? sorry, just quite curious. i don't remember ever finding Darth Vader scary for example (much scarier when he takes his helmet off at the end of ROTJ). As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:52 (fourteen years ago) link

emperor is pretty scary with the flashing and the lightening and being old and all

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Palpatine was a fucking joke in ROTJ. Even as a kid I was all like, "THIS is the geezer everyone's afraid of?" Throw him down a flight of stairs.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

or just switch off his stairlift halfway down. but his magic was good.

Louis Cll (darraghmac), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

The bit in ROTS where he turns into Paul Daniels is pretty frightening.

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

he really looks like Gary Oldman in Dracula during the transition to Emperor. that whole stretch is preposterous but actually quite entertaining.

mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.galacticbinder.com/images/DarkestMoments/anakin-palpatine-opera.jpg
"You're going to like this. Not a lot, but you'll like it. Now say 'Yes Palpatine!' <throws voice> Yes Palpatine!"

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Vader takes off his mask... and it's the lovely Debbie McGee.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

any idea what they think the scariest scene(s) out of the 6 films are?

He professes to not be scared of anything (at all, full stop). This includes Star Wars. I'll have to ask if he thinks there's anything that's scariest.

I know for a fact that he was extremely scared when Fizzgig got thrown down into that hole in Dark Crystal, though.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I, on the other hand, had to be escorted from the theater when I attended Empire Strikes Back as a child because there had been a statue of Darth Vader in the lobby.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

As I said before, I think limbless Anakin bursting into flames in ROTS would've freaked me out a LOT if i'd seen that as a child.

OK, last week I went to that Star Wars In Concert deal. One of the selections the orchestra played was "Battle of the Heroes" from the ROTS score, and it was accompanied by video of the big Anakin/Obi-Wan lightsaber fight, lots of Vader footage from ESB and ROTJ, Anakin killing the sandpeople, etc. Plus there were live fire effects on stage. A little kid sitting behind us, about 6-7 years old, got absolutely pants-wetting terrified. He burst into sobs and was crying, "I want my mommy!" It occurred to me that it's very possible that a lot of little-little kids haven't even seen ROTS.

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

LOL - that is my kid's favorite scene from that movie! Do you think he'll turn out weird or something?

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, when my Dad took me to see ROTJ, I made us leave because somebody was smoking in the theater and I was afraid it would start a fire.

I was "sensitive".

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

dune is 10000 times better to watch stoned

^^^

The Star Wars movies I find don't hold up under such sensory-enhanced scrutiny, particularly ROTJ, which at times feels like you are watching a weird daytime TV soap opera.

Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Empire is easily the best designed. I think it's a very elegant movie, visually.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

on the money. It looks wonderful.

Bill A, Thursday, 10 December 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

emperor is pretty scary in a cool sinister-but-wise way in rotj

disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire and jabbas palace scene was a bit ooky.

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"Your overconfidence is your weakness!"
"Your faith in your friends is yours!"

Classic comeback, particularly with his sneering offhand delivery.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ ha yes, a brilliant pwnage.

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"your faith in your friends is yours"

i guess turned out to be his weakness too?

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

here's an underrated howler: "Soon I'll be dead, and you with me."

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Also fond of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGwDwx10wB4

Seriously, Palpatine rocks the house in Jedi.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, the faux pussy voice would have enlivened several hundred lines in ROTS.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

The disgruntled expression on ol' Emp's face right after Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me" speech is ace.

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

no he's fucking MIFFED.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6odktXD31s

Luke looks like Richard Chamberlain here.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

disturbing scenes for me as a kid - lukes parents black skeleton bones on fire

Even today that is jarringly graphic by the standards of the other 5 movies, as is the bloody, cut-off arm in the cantina scene.

james cameron gargameled my boner for life (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 10 December 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

This is the point in the thread where I remind everyone that nowhere in ROTJ is the word "Ewok" ever uttered, and that the only reason any of us even know what an Ewok is is that Lucasfilm's marketing is utterly insidious.

Utterly Insidious should have been the name of an evil Jedi in one of the prequels, BTW.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 December 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

scariest scene by far is luke's vader hallucination where he cuts off his head... so freaky

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOKE (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Luke's "I am a Jedi, like my father before me"

haha i love lukes little head nod, to where darth is lay in agony, when he says this

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The heroes are pretty cruel in this movie. (Luke killing that guy's pet masterblaster; Leia choking fat muppet to death) Has it ever been established in the Star Wars canon exactly why the Empire is the bad guy beyond having a ridiculous military budget?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't know the specifics, but I think killing Bothans probably comes into it somewhere.

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

didn't they destroy an entire planet?

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Refusal to lower exorbitant Galactic Capital Gains Tax.

uninspired girls rejoice!!! (Hoot Smalley), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

ALDERAAN... never forget

donde está mia farrow, fa la la la la, la la la la (s1ocki), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a line in the original Ep IV script about how the Empire are nationalising industry... Just like Obama wants to, look out America!

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Emporer: "Does anyone have any questions?"
Moff Random: "Why does the fiscal budget have a deficit of thirty trillion Galactic credits?"
<Force lightning vapourises Random>
Emporer: "Does anyone have any other questions?"

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

jawas did alderaan

you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

The first part of my post is actually true, by the way.

Communi-Bear Silo State (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The heroes are pretty cruel in this movie. (Luke killing that guy's pet masterblaster; Leia choking fat muppet to death) Has it ever been established in the Star Wars canon exactly why the Empire is the bad guy beyond having a ridiculous military budget?

lolling

wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

"Does anyone have any other questions?"

"Have you found Luke Skywalker yet? And do you have any knowledge of the location of the rebel base?"

bracken free ditch (Ste), Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Hearts and minds:

http://othersideoftheplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/PBK_Stormtrooper_holding_a_baby_1.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

"Why did you promote Mr. Bronson from Grange Hill to Admiral?"

HUH? not appropriate (snoball), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"ALDERAAN... never forget"

Pretty harsh, true, but what else are they gonna do with a Death Star?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Turn it into a shopping mall.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link

What would people buy? They all wear the same thing.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link

A do-it-yourself midi-chlorian kit.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

My sister told me it works like an insulin injection.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link


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