The Great Moving Right Show II: The Kirsty and Phil Years

the feeling started out playing covers at ski resorts.

heehee i wz accosted by a drunk polish-american tourist just outside my house in hackney on sat: "hey man, is this like london's answer to the GHETTO?"

i guess my unpersuaded amusement towards carmody's "i'm so bored with the usa" stance is that I KNOW WHERE IT ENDS UP

(am right now trying to write semi-nice stuff abt the temple strummer doc)

quitney didn't you review that in sight and sound?

PS where does I KNOW WHERE IT ENDS UP end up?

cranky old man s on park bench complainin abt YOUNG PPL TODAY

aka everyone shd be checkin INTELLECHNO

haha re henry's -- k-korrekt -- sally against clunker-edits, the VERY FIRST HOME-MOVIE SHOT, where small joe s throws a stone and j.temple dubs in a really crappy SFX of glass breaking!!

if " s " refers to who i think " s " refers to then i would say " s " does like a few young ppls things and has always had an, often hidden, anti young ppl streak. this is about grime isn't it?

if by young ppl you mean simon reynolds then YES i am always fightin w.him the mere whippersnap -- i quite like grime tho i am not like whistleheadedly simple for it

not really sure what yr gettin at (maybe yr not talkin abt me at all)

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" m s "

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" s r "

OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY ROUND?

"m s"

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"s r"

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MS, SR

Ha ha

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only just realised what this thread was

i am all those ppl and things obv

"do not wipe the taste of the day away with the false and foreign taste of mint"

i don't know. i think yes -- though with most of the anger directed at the US. people used to say about watergate that far from making people more engaged or concerned, it made them more cynical, and i think that's happened here a bit.

i suppose i am a bit mean about the academic left -- at the moment they seem concerned with the lack of a utopia in modern politics. there isn't even the very, very limited idealism* of the new labour project that you had in the mid-'90s.

and i guess that's what the other thread is about -- how far this cynicism** carries over into/is fostered by cultural ephemera.

*realize this sounds ridiculous to people who were adults at the time, i suppose it *was* a mostly "please just end this tory government", but still...

**http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 12:32 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

to sorta seriously answer what i take to be yr question, above, acrobat:
one of the reasons i get snarkily agitated by hyper-sectarianism and passive-aggressive outflanking manoevres and general haha splittism on the left is clearly self-hatred: viz *i* am the most consistently perversely topsyturvyist contrarian i know -- my instant kneejerk to ANY agreement reached prior to me enterin the room is to think "well obv THEY'RE wrong, let's start from there" -- and i am disliking ppl behaving the way i suspect i do (or would like to or would tend to)

i *try* and be playful and useful abt this for others -- and i think as an editor i achieved (potential) constructiveness for abt 10 months maybe at w!re -- but i am hyper-aware of my own tendency-ability to filbuster pointlessly yet impatiently on something only i care about (rightly obv, except usually no one gets it but me cz i explain it so compactedly, and anyway it's more intution than understand probbly), so i step away from most political arguments, and only toss stuff into them which (maybe, possibly) someone else will pick up on and turn into an opening-up

this isn't quietism as cynicism, it's slow-and-steady-wins-the-er-oops-race-ism, but what it actually leads to in me -- i've increasingly noticed recently -- is occasional break-outs of extreme spiteful frustration at not any longer knowin how to re-renter the race, esp.when it's full up of ppl (but isn't this always the way) who seem to be misperceiving the world the same way i did when i wz their age

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"do not read if you hate me"

i wasn't sure of the question i was asking but that's quite an answer. i'm not sure i can add anything, not now anyway.

anyways. this lunchtime i thought about quitney's post that i re-posted up there. projection. cynicism. peep show. has the program been written about by the (h)academics? (k punk?) cos it seems to be a sort of acting out of the process quitney perceives. you have characters projections writ larger, they are judging everyone else to be as bad as them and THEY ARE RIGHT. everyone is a shit. but it's funny. cos being a shit is funny. there's the same thing in the thick of it but that's ok cos we all KNOW politics is CORRUPT, huh? these programs are like the last bloc party album, they try and chronicle / capture some kind of malaise but end up being a part of it. sort of.

stuff i think i think:

i. ppl who read and/or know a lot often suffer a rather crippling kind of faith-envy: "if only i was still so simple/innocent/young/ignorant that i could once more just BELIEVE" (the companion of this is ppl who read and/or know a lot pretending to themselves their faiths aren't actuallly faiths but common sense or objective science or whatever)
ii. satire IS generally conservative
iii. avant-gardes ARE symptoms not cures, but symptoms is what doctors study!

haha = adorno 101 (and 102 and 103)

Does the fact that Yuppie Wants Buy House and Get Botox! Now! type programs have replaced MDF Will Make Semi Nice and Budget Airline Staff / Crap Drivers Are Funny! as cheap 8 till 9 television entertainment show reflect the prosperous times we are living in? Or not.

Also that Alistair Stewart's Chase Car With Helicopter has been replaced with Street Crime Is Quite Funny To Watch.

reflect the prosperous times we are living in death of society?

It's faintly amusing / worrying that we have managed to trump the Americans in the TRUE CRIME stakes. Their Black Dude Being Chased By 700 Armed Police shows were always were better than our Joyriders Chased Round Council Estate shows but we trumped them with the film drunk people fighting outside Yates on a Saturday night genre of crimesplotation.

Is this just because I've got Booze Britain in my list of "favourite TV" on Facebook?

Nah. I watched one last week and was gripped. All that happened was a man punched a woman in the face but it was so sick and gripping in a way those American ones never are.

only because it was louis jagger.

But, yeh you are the expert I guess on these shows. They are certainly better than Sin Cities or UK Play. God I hate the guy off Sin Cities.

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Louis Jagger punched a woman in the face? That's awful.

i'm sure there's a funny side.

She was Muslim, it's OK.

That guy from Sin Cities truly is a Grub Smith for the new milennium

I hope he was able to justify himself.

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Ashley Hames
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Ashley Hames (born: 19 November 1970) in Stourport, United Kingdom is a British Presenter and Director with a wide range of credits to his name: he had his first taste of showbiz as the original News Bunny on L!VE TV.

More recently and indeed, certainly more acclaimed, Ashley has fronted three series of Bravo’s highest ever rating show, "Sin Cities", two fifteen part and one ten part series about sex from around the world, and "Man's Work", a series he presents for Bravo TV.

Ashley made his mark at Channel 4 where he directed and presented "Bad Trip", a controversial documentary uncovering his exploits with a Playboy model, a homeless alcoholic and other lethal weapons in Texas, USA. He also filmed and edited a documentary about cocaine for the channel’s launch of 4Later, as well as directing E4’s "Posh Rock", a series about wealthy teenagers in Cornwall.

Ashley is currently filming a new four part travel series for BBC2, to be broadcast in autumn 2007. "Guilt Trip" takes lovers of luxury goods to see the real ecological and human costs of their vices. In each episode, three members of the public, with their own extraordinary obsession with luxury goods, are sent packing on a potentially life-changing journey tracing their object of desire back to its roots. Guilt trippers must first meet hard-line ethical expert Lucy Siegle and a panel of activists, who devise a tailor-made journey – their own personal guilt trip. The panel sends the guilt trippers into a new world – designed to make them see the light. Alongside Ashley, their trip will take them to far-flung corners of the globe where they are shown the dark underside of their luxuries, from the illegal gold mines of Ghana to the grim sweatshops of India. But they also meet people who benefit from their obsession: workers who would otherwise be unemployed and communities that would be obliterated without their Western purchase power. When the guilt trippers return from their two-week journey they must face the panel – and a complex and difficult decision.

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Categories: 1970 births | Living people | English television presenters

It's the TV show that had to be made.

oh the wikipedia entry has been vandalised :(

This is a good thread, though I understand but little.

eat that, 'calum, fran, and dangerous danan'.

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TS: Calum, Fran and Dangerous Danan v "Paul Danan Dates Some Women For You"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican

So can we fairly use the term Peep Show Conservative?

Go on...
What does the "Peep Show Conservative" think about:
* The Iraq War
* Global Warming
* Imigration
* Race
* Mock The Week

I'm an ideas man...

What I mean is: South Park Republican is a useful and accurate shorthand to describe a new breed of right-winger in America. Does PSC work the same in the UK as a term?

You gotta work it out better. I'll answer my own question.

* The Iraq War - Boo hiss! It was a cock up though they may have supported the invasion circa 2003. The failure was clearly the result of Americans being fat / lazy / stupid. They may point out that "it's all about oil" or that it "was illegal".

What does the "Peep Show Conservative" think about:
* The Iraq War - doesn't
* Global Warming - he watched that save the world gig
* Imigration - foreigners make good nannies/footballers
* Race - see above
* Mock The Week - hilarious