2008 Primaries Thread

but he could easily lose MI to McCain, and SC to Huckabee

this seems likely to me as well

i think huckabee will do very very well in SC

does anyone think there may be a chance of a brokered republican convention?

meaning what exactly

a brokered convention would be the most entertaining ever

is there any chance of a wrestling republican convention

only chance of brokered convention is trying to take down huckabee. even if ppl really want to do that, i srsly doubt that's their style.

if no candidate gets the majority of delegates, the republicans retreat to the fabled smoky back room to do their mind-melding and horse-trading

xpost to shakey

right, I know what it is - I was just wondering what scenario you were envisioning that would happen in... I mean, I think *someone* will definitely have a clear majority, just not sure who yet.

haha I'm probably *way* late on this according to the article date, but I had no idea Romney was implicated in some National Lampoon's Vacation antics:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1638065,00.html

After catching a couple of McCain interviews on Sunday morning, I want to elect him Zingmaster General.

hitch goes toxic

http://www.slate.com/id/2181460/

Would we accept, if Obama's mother had also been Jewish, that he would therefore be the first Jewish president?

this from a dude who wont stfu about how his jewish grandmother makes him fullblooded heeb

If you wanted a "black" president or vice president so much, you could long ago have turned out en masse for Angela Davis—also the first woman to be on a national ticket—or for Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. So, why didn't you? Could it have been the politics?

This is kind of a point.

ok that was fucked up but i kinda agree with him on normally anti-fundie liberals getting all gooey long as its BLACK fundies

Isn't there something pathetic and embarrassing about this emphasis on shade? And why is a man with a white mother considered to be "black," anyway?

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It would sound as absurd to a Kenyan to hear praise for a black candidate as it would sound to most of my European readers to hear a recommendation of a "great white hope." A white visitor to Kenya might not be able to tell a Kikuyu from a Luo at a glance, but a Kenyan would have no such difficulty.

are contradictory statements

There's something pathetic and embarrassing about our obsession with Barack Obama's race. By Christopher Hitchens

why not canonize hubert harrison or butterfly mcqueen - "as my ancestors are free from slavery, I am free from the slavery of religion"

Hitch in pretending not to understand the importance of symbol SHOCKAH

maybe he doesn't think symbols necessarily govern effectively.

getting all giggly over the church's website reads like some dim blogger imitating hitchens. OMG a button where you DONATE by BUYING STUFF what a fucking SHAM

The problem with Hitch's thesis here is that, with the exception of David Gregory/Beltway types blathering about history on "The Today Show," I haven't heard anyone mention Obama's skin color.

yes this is the least participated-in 'national obsession' yet

Hitchens is such a bozo - altho this: "the site offers a volume called Bad Girls of the Bible: Exploring Women of Questionable Virtue, which I have added to my cart" made me laugh

BAN HITCH
worst troll ever

lolz doesn't he realized he JUST DONATED MONEY TO A CHURCH

x-post

"our"

Huck skates Vert - http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2008_01/012846.php

I haven't heard anyone mention Obama's skin color.

Which pundits are you unaware of??

who won't Hil copy? - http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/01/07/556046.aspx

reads like some dim bloggerimitating hitchens.

ugh i have been racking my brain trying to think of the quote describing fascist politics in 'vertical' terms vs the flattening 'horizontal' effects of liberal democracy... paul berman? maybe it was just a poli sci prof of mine talking off the cuff, i really can't remember. (all googles lead to huckabee, at the moment)

anyway, what a crepey little phrase

http://electronicsprocket.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/ce3kpointup03.jpg

"I lift up mine eyes to the hills, from whence cometh my policy directives."

Hitch would be more likeable if he talked about giallo movies and Nicky Wire.

OH SNAP! a picture thread

hitch would be more likable if he didnt present wrongheaded bullshit in the most condensing way possible

lol typo

that hitchens article on obama is incoherent. it seems to change what it's saying (implicitly) every paragraph, or even every other sentence.

the only common denominator seems to be "i have a feeling most everyone out there is a fool."

arh fuckd bi spellcheck agian

everything falls into line with hitch if you imagine ("imagine") him as a decaying 'apolitical' upperclass nativist brit with intellectual pretensions

although, i should say, what *is* the deal w/the church obama belongs to? is hitchens remotely on target here?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/graphics/2006/12/08/bfoxbridge.jpg

it's full of hucksterish con men, like nearly every church ever

that's not fair. obama lives in or near hyde park in chicago right? there are many progressive churches around there that wouldn't raise any of our hackles.

but... all churches raise Hitch's hackles

ohhh i get it... getting all het up about what churches the candidates belong to. he's just extending his brand.

the racial stuff is just off, tho. it doesn't make much sense and looks nasty any way you cut it.

this is easy - hitch thinks religion is for the little people who didn't go to oxbridge

it doesn't belong in the serious world of politics

who would be hitch's ideal candidate?

an athiest with a hawkish foreign policy?