http://www.srcf.ucam.org/fitzjcr/images/stories/billybulletin/2006-01-24-tramp.jpg
― Bodrick III, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Beards can get fucked, the rest I'm all for.
No, wait, nu-folk can get fucked too.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link
i hate when people say they "wear a beard" like its a fucking scarf or something
― and what, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
suggest alternatives. "have a beard" sounds like it's a pet.
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:19 (sixteen years ago) link
hate when people say they "wear a beard" like its a fucking scarf or something
yeah, it's not like they take it off before bed and leave it with their wallet and keys on the dresser or something.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
"Have a beard" is not categorically different from "have a pierced ear" or "have a bald spot."
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been shaving every other day for the first time in my life. I kind of miss having a long beard, but I was starting to look like a roadie for My Morning Jacket.
― milo z, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I prefer "grow face" as in "that guy grows face."
― Will M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i think beards are just swell and i like rye and pickled things what is a fleet foxes tho
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
sing songy folk band from Seattle
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
-- jaymc, Wednesday, July 9, 2008 4:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
i wear a bald spot
― and what, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
the only thing i know about them is that they have the duchess & the duke opening for them on tour.
xpost.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Wait - is pickling beets a band?
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Have/Wear beard. Hate Fleet Foxes.
― bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
"too lazy to shave"
Also that first bit is a just a tad petty, jmc. I don't disagree that those concepts exist, I just think that far too often they are formed with little to no precision, scientific rigor, or real understanding of more than the critic's own experiences. Then again, you've already heard me say that 9000 times. xposts
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
pickling beats.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
I prefer pickled turnips.
― Michael White, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Dilly beans are the BOMB. My mom's been on the sharp edge of that trend for ~40 years.
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
have a beard just SOUNDS fucking stupid
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't think i've ever had a pickled beet. they can't be worse than pickled eggs.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
You just haven't had the right pickled egg yet!
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link
grow face!!! omg
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link
how are these bohemians different from hippies?
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
bohemians have better drugs
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I like pickled radishes thanks to the Koreans, those famous nu-bohomeians. And picked garlic thanks to the Spanish tapas place on Grand St, which, ditto.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
they aren't dirty like dirty, awful, stinking hippies are.
xpost. what que said.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/itisamystery.gif
― Bodrick III, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I ain't aware of too many beets. I know what I know and I don't know these *Fleet*s.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Guys, let's just talk about food, okay? How do you think they get the attached end of pickled garlic cloves so perfectly rounded? It looks like it was tumbled, mine never look that smooth.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
"got a beard"
― milo z, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't disagree that those concepts exist, I just think that far too often they are formed with little to no precision, scientific rigor, or real understanding of more than the critic's own experiences.
That is probably true, and I wouldn't argue with you on that. I think maybe where we differ is that despite all of that, trends are awfully fun for me to think and talk about.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd say that if someone was wearing that hat/scarf number this week in LA, they'd be warm, regardless of bohemian or otherwise.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
x-post.
Cultural trends of the lifestyle sort suggested here (in a throwaway fashion, just cos I was interested if anyone would take it up, or it'd be dismissed as bullshit, which is fine) never have precision, scientific rigor etc. They are often about the critic's incestuous little circle (whether describing yuppies in 86, or electroclashers in the 02), and pointedly ignore 99.4% of the population. Doesn't mean that they shouldn't be found interesting, or that there's no such thing as a zeitgeist. I was most interested in whether there was any cross-pollination between newspaper polls that talk about gas prices / unemployment / greenhouse gases, and style / lifestyle choices amongst 20/30 something urban dwellers. If not, fine.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
EVAAAAAAAA
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I dunno, I feel like a lot of the time people talking about trends are magnifying some relatively not-that-big thing in their own circles, whereas most of the buzz I keep seeing about the back-to-the-land types of today seems to be coming from people who don't qualify for the "trend" in any way and might not even KNOW anyone who does.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Besides, it's already over: the Times reported on it.
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
The only kind of farming that's bohemian is failed farming.
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know, i think going "back to the land" is something urban dwellers fantasize about? i sure do.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
i've never seen anyone pickling beets. i've known people with beards all my life. my dad drank rye. so calling this a "trend" is kind of absurd to me. it's like asking about this "trend" where people get progressively older until they die.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
words i hate: zeitgeist
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
that's only one word
― dan m, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
it's one of them german two-wordy words though
― Hurting 2, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
several of my friends/acquaintances seem to be on the road to being business-minded, non-industrial farmers for realz and they are not annoying bohemian losers obsessed with a trend
tho i have been known to ask them to please stfu abt farming etc, if only b/c i don't really want them to move away from town
i am way too city to go this route full-time
― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
i sure do.
I think that really just means you need to get out of the city. :)
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
xp with rrrrrobyn!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.hi-arts.co.uk/default.aspx.locid-hianewnwi.Lang-EN.htm
The Ballerina Ballroom Cinema of Dreams Back 08 July 2008
A while ago, on an impulse, a quixotic seizure, Tilda Swinton rented a ballroom in an old Victorian stone building in Nairn in the North East of Scotland, a seaside town where Chaplin used to holiday and which has a balmy microclimate and vistas across the Moray Firth to the Black Isle, Cromarty and Sutherland.
The ballroom is called Ballerina. In the 60s and 70s Pink Floyd, The Who and Cream played there. The ballroom in nearby Elgin was called The Red Shoes.
After renting the Ballerina, Tilda emailed Mark Cousins to ask if he’d help her put on a film festival in it. And she asked her architect friend Colin Cawdor if he’d oversee the refit. As quixotic as she, they both said yes. Tilda took Mark to see the place – they were making a wee film about being 8 1/2 and falling in love with cinema – and he loved it and so, together, they dreamt up a festival of beanbags on the floor, that would run 8 1/2 days, that would be a 6 out of ten on the grunge scale, that would serve home-made cakes and fish finger sandwiches, whose tickets would be £3/£2, and that would transform the Ballerina into something like a ghost train.
― caek, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm almost amazed enough by that article to start a thread.
whereas most of the buzz I keep seeing about the back-to-the-land types of today seems to be coming from people who don't qualify for the "trend" in any way and might not even KNOW anyone who does.
I guess the thing I find most interesting about Paul's thread idea, though, is the notion that an actual "back-to-the-land" trend can also be manifested in superficial ways, like listening to Fleet Foxes or ordering rye at a trendy cocktail bar. (Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.)
― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
the quixotic seizure jumped over the lazy dog
― and what, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link
Although rye seems to be more like a standard hipster fetishization of old-timey things.
i think people just like the way it tastes.
― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
follow/swallow
Tied round Their Throats
their/there
etc.
it's not bad -- i'd have to hear it though. i guess i should go to that free concert tomorrow?
― amateurist, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
not many internal rhymes, but lots of assonance
lots of "rr" sounds
― amateurist, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
i understand yr point re construction and internal rhyme but blargh
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i think the strongest part about those lyrics is the imagery and the imagery is not. . .that great
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
edie brickell to thread.
― chicago kevin, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
And I turned round and there you go!
this line doesn't fit well into the verse... it seems to me...
― amateurist, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
crunk foxes
― uh oh I'm having a fantasy, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I think the free concert is tonight, Am.
― jaymc, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
RYE
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
http://i.timeinc.net/recipes/i/recipes/su/07/03/beer-rye-bread-su-1589348-l.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.bellewood-gardens.com/Rye%20Bread_1.jpg
I CAN TOTALLY SEE ROBIN PECKNOLD IN THE CRUST
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
butter churning is so hot right now
― velko, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
jordan's concert is tonight, the fleet foxes are tomorrow (the 18th)
― amateurist, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh, I thought you meant in Chicago. It looks like Fleet Foxes are playing a free show in Chicago tonight, a free show in Madison tomorrow, and then coming back to Chicago on Saturday for Pitchfork...?
― jaymc, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
No matter how many caveats are given y'all pretend not to have sorted out the "lyrics on paper" thing, but I will continue to post bits I like in the full knowledge that everyone will have more fun going "god that's terrible," as if similar bands are doing anything better -- whatevs
The well-turned thing about the imagery is the red-on-white scarves/snow that it kinda suggests at the end may have turned to red-on-white blood/snow. The "there you go" bit breaks meter because it's set on a chord change. The follow/swallow is a nice internal rhyme that I appreciate because the unnecessary rhyme ("swallowed") is a better and more interesting word there than most alternatives. "White snow red as strawberries in the summertime" rolls around well in the mouth and adds a seasonal opposition to the white/red -- whatever, y'all, most everything in there locks together really neatly, if you ask me, but maybe I'm just being over-reminded of a scene in Les Enfants Terrible involving a snowball with a rock inside it.
Amateurist, they do a lot of harmony singing, which I think you might like. Some of the harmonies are interestingly constructed, some more conventional but still nice. (And it's mildly interesting to hear a band like this pay lots of attention to doing multi-part harmonies well instead of just scrounging other, lamer "roots" affectations -- they genuinely sound good singing their harmonies slow and a capella)
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
nah
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
;)
:/
The well-turned thing about the imagery is the red-on-white scarves/snow that it kinda suggests at the end may have turned to red-on-white blood/snow.
Yeah, I got that.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
fully true tho that it works better in the ear than on the page, if that is the comparison, as i have just heard this on their myspace dot com
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i saw these guys a bit before this micro-blowup and they were impressive -- the singing especially, yes. the songs were catchy and memorable hearing them once, live, so they must be doing something right and it's not surprising they are getting buzz. they were obviously going for that minor-key t-bone burnett style space-country and they nailed it. i always appreciate a band who orchestrates things well, and there was plenty of reverb and purposeful echo-y empty space instead of a lot of generic strumming with a pedal steel on top or whatever.
― goole, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i should add here FWIW, i like these guys okay! their voices are great, songs are cool even if i don't care for their lyrics. but i don't care about lyrics that much.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link
basically these guys make me feel old which i am cool with feeling/being! but not via them haha ha
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
if i was me as i was in 2000 today then i wld be all into this and butter churning
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
it works better in the ear than on the page
now what'd I JUST say?
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
oh wait sorry i misread you, je suis desolee
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link
d'accord
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
Quand on est ensemble...
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
oui, mais moi...
― rrrobyn, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link
why would anyone ever say 'wear a beard'?? unless this is a british thing to say, in which case, carry on being british or whatever
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
He wears his whiskers long She wears her hair in a bun etc.
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
wears GROWS wears PUTS
― Will M., Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Yes, just like that classic song, "if you're going to San Francisco / be sure to PUT some flowers in your hair"
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Um that's not the same thing at all!
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Am I seriously going to have to get out a dictionary and/or copies of 19th-century literature to convince you guys this usage exists?
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:12 (sixteen years ago) link
No, I'm just being a dick
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link
Haha so am I, kinda. (Jay-Z says "wears her hair in a twist!") It's totally archaic, but I really do like the use of "wear" for styling decisions, including hair growths -- wear your jeans tight, wear your hair long, wear side-whiskers, wear a beard
― nabisco, Thursday, 17 July 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
wear your heart on your sleeve, wear your fingers to the bone, wear a point into the ground, wear out a welcome
― rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:34 (sixteen years ago) link
i have just been french-english exchanging and in this talk often turns to discussions of the idiomatic and grammatically weird or archaic when trying to find correct translations - it is funny but also confusing because yeah maybe the wear a beard thing etc is right even if only nabisco and people in the 19thC use it
language so crazy
― rrrobyn, Friday, 18 July 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link
ok but if she has already put her hair in a bun she is wearing her hair in a bun.
― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 18 July 2008 05:36 (sixteen years ago) link