Wayne Rooney vs Andy Carroll

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can you think of a single player who has been a ~major success~ in the last decade while being as technically shit as carroll?

― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:35 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Srsly you ask me that

― should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

As if you dont know my answer, and know that i mean it sincerely

― should we bin tapping? (darraghmac), Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:38 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Poll Results

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Wayne Rooney 11
Andy Carroll 2


dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:35 (ten years ago) link

been building to this day since ilf formed tbrr

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:36 (ten years ago) link

Rooney is 10 times the player Carroll is, easy, you challopian tube

sir, please respect the sanctity of the polling booth and leave if you can't control yourself after casting

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 10:54 (ten years ago) link

what would a Rooney/Carroll thread be without judicious use of the elbow?

As if Arsenal would pay out good money for a player who is technically shit

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

this q kinda pertains to what i was thinking yesterday about d bent @ liverpool, namely the imo deluded kneejerk modern snobbery towards narrowly specialist players correctly utilised

is carroll a better ~player~ than rooney, unquestionably not, does he have the capacity to be a more effective weapon ehh it's definitely up for grabs

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

£35M KENNY WHAT WERE YOU THINKING

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

a player that can do one job well is fine if you've got a team/squad where he slots in, i think Bent at Liverpool was more a question of not slotting, tho you could also question whether Bent still offers value in terms of the limited role you'd want him to perform

and like i said yesterday, if Liverpool really wanted a Bent-like player then why not stick with Carroll?

bent is a quick lethal finisher with no touch

big ands is a slow battering ram with no touch

rooney is a fat but quickish nothing with no nothing

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:25 (ten years ago) link

rtc otm tho, the disdain for a 'nothing but goals' player in a coach is to be feared and mistrusted. use your big brain to formulate a system where the other ten players at your disposal get the ball to such a gem imo, or fuck off elsewhere sharpish

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

eh whoa now i mean ideally in the modern squad game you'd not want to build your entire shebang on such a player (you can win the championship with a taarabt vehicle but after that...). but for instance the appeal of bent at liverpool is the versatility or variety to be specialised if u catch my drift. more intriguing imo to have one benty in the mix there than multiple iterations of the same nippy wing forward

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

invite dmac to assess extent of rooney being mismanaged throughout his career

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

well yeah a coach should have ideally more than one system at his disposal

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

'nothing but goals' player

That's Bent whereas Carroll's more of 'not even goals' player

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

£35M KENNY WHAT WERE YOU THINKING

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:16 (53 minutes ago) Bookmark

the answer was jarvis not downing all along :O

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

rooney vs arsenal that time for everton and for a bit during euro 2004 and for his utd european debut- well managed wunderkind

the rest of it- golem turned into a kebab vehicle. there was something there once for all to see, but even in his 30 goals seasons he was mainly a joyless tapper of ins, the kind of statistically impressive award winning career that proves that le tiss was 100% correct to stay at southampton

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link

the playoff against turkey is my best memory of him. fearless, quick, creative. all gone now. all gone.

i think bent at liverpool would be clever enough, if the price isn't wild. like would you be thinking "oh fuck" if they're bringing him on with 20 mins to go? vs... amc/fw #33/35

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link

Daren Bent as a "nothing but goals" player is a myth, the idea of a team with money in the bank and designs on european football wanting to spend proper dollar on the guy is bonkers. If he went for £6 mil or less I spose id get that.

Rooney obvs. approximately 15x better than Carroll will ever be, but his general demeanour, combined with the knowledge of what might have been, makes him correspondingly more depressing and hateful.

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

darren bent will outscore wayne rooney next season in the league

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

chump call

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Thursday, 27 June 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link

I maintain that Rooney could have easily lived up to the hype had he not fallen in love with the way that Scholes plays.

Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

Voting for Carroll because of Ronan's avatar. It's the only right thing to do tbh.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 28 June 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 29 June 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

shit, who did I vote for?

Number None, Saturday, 29 June 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 30 June 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Pish

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 30 June 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link

Greats struggle in their own time

dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

imagine if Rooney had died directly after Euro 2004

Number None, Sunday, 30 June 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Wouldve been better for all concerned really

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Sunday, 30 June 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link

The People's Prince

Shamrock Shoe (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 July 2013 07:16 (ten years ago) link

The white Diana.

So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 5 July 2013 07:34 (ten years ago) link

Rooney is a good athlete. He played very well in the Arsenal. This summer, there are a lot of clubs want to sign him.

swerdlow, Friday, 26 July 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

welcome to I Love Football sir, please stay and chat

Mancunian stagger (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:50 (ten years ago) link

Thread needs Grant Holt for true challopian nirvana.

In his Charlton days Bent was really good at creating space for himself but by the time he'd turned up at Spurs most Premiership defenders had worked out what he was going to do and he wasn't an intelligent enough player to get around that. By the end of his time at WHL it was frustratingly obvious what he was going to do at all times, especially when he didn't have the ball (ie 99% of the time). Since then he's had one good season at Sunderland and several mediocre ones and idiot managers/chairmen still think he'll be the goose that laid the golden boot.

Still rate him about Carroll mind. Position of Rickie Lambert in these rankings to be assessed at a later date.

Matt DC, Friday, 26 July 2013 07:45 (ten years ago) link

He kept villa up

clique- your heels, together (darraghmac), Friday, 26 July 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link

You can plug a leak in a sinking ship, but you're always going to do some proper repair work once you're safely back in port.

Third Rate Zoo Keepers With Tenth Rate Minds (Windsor Davies), Friday, 26 July 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

merely a temporary blip, this

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link

carroll will prob be in league two in 3/4 years, if he's not retired through injury.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

darren bent will outscore wayne rooney next season in the league

― dj hollingsworth vs dj perry (darraghmac), 27 June 2013 19:03 (2 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this has been sabotaged by shady figures imo

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah the carroll injuries are becoming a thing, is it alcohol/lifestyle related or what

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

15m for him was the second ludicrous price he's been sold for.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link

yeah the carroll injuries are becoming a thing, is it alcohol/lifestyle related or what

his feet can't support the weight of his hair.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link

There'll always be at least one Premiership manager antediluvian enough to sign him.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:38 (ten years ago) link

I mean Kieron Dyer was still at a PL club until last year.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:39 (ten years ago) link

rooney's new magic johnson look suits him btw.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link

although he is white. he's very white.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 10:10 (ten years ago) link

nae dute aboo that

quite racist, don't mind rap (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

fuck yis

trilby mouth (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:21 (seven years ago) link

'never not be a wasteman' was first thought but this actually is better, kudos

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:30 (seven years ago) link


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