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Saw them live once and they were fan-fucking-tastic. Saw them live about 8 months later and they were godawful. Recorded, some of the stuff I'm into (the noisier, incoherent screaming stuff) and some of it kinda bores me (the more ambient electronic stuff.)

Opinions?

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 18 October 2002 01:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

their best proper LP = dread.

i've heard all the full-lengths and a few of the cassettes. none can recapture that first glimpse/listen i had of them. i say take your chances live. I've seen them twice and fell in love... O_o

see also: VIOLENT RAMP.

gygax!, Friday, 18 October 2002 02:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

NO. NO. NO.

I saw them open for Sonic Youth. They were absolutely the worst band I have ever heard. Their music is like the holocaust^2. It was almost like a parody of art-rock bands. The amazingly annoying lyrics, the blowing on that stupid horn, the idiot guy who jumped up and down like he was really into it, even though he didnt really play an instrument.

Wolf Eyes are a horrible, horrible band.

David Allen, Friday, 18 October 2002 02:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

wow... 14 million people were brutally murdered while they played their set?

hmmm...

maybe the guy really was into it even though he couldn't play an instrument. isn't that sort of the theory that Sonic Youth sort of started with? I'm not saying you should like it, but at least they're eliciting a response, which is more than could be said for a lot of the pap being made right now.

tinobeat (tinobeat), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:09 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh wait, the holocaust *squared*, so 49 million people..

gosh, those guys must really be monsters.

tinobeat (tinobeat), Friday, 18 October 2002 03:10 (11 years ago) Permalink

i just borrowed "Slicer" last night and thought it was a bit of a dud

just ambient noise. i heard they were supposed to sound like suicide or electro punk shit

but i've heard Dread is the one to get

JasonD, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

Im gonna stick with my original opinion - worst atrocity mankind has ever produced.

It actually exceeds Freddy Got Fingered.

David Allen, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:36 (11 years ago) Permalink

OMG

Jason D. how was your sandwich for lunch today?

guess who you borrowed SLICER from? i'll hook you up tomorrow with the real deal.

too funny...

dmv, Friday, 18 October 2002 03:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

"dread" is it; after that this band has no need to justify their existence to _anyone_.

the self-titled and "fuck pete larsen" releases are also pretty tasty, i can't wait to hear "slicer." as for the american tapes stuff...inessential, but some of it is interesting, like the "black rat floods" and "dead mills" collections of clanky ghost factory concrete. sort of like the black dice/wolf eyes things amtapes released, actually.

your null fame (yournullfame), Friday, 18 October 2002 04:25 (11 years ago) Permalink


agreed on the dread and fuck pete larsen stuff. i dig the split with crack too.

i could understand why folks might not like this. expecting an oreo cookie, but getting cocoa, sugar, flour, and lard. it's like rock on it's side, with a beat.

m.

msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 05:34 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes carve away the meat.If you cant throb like Throbbing Gristle, don't bother.(ie: I likem lots) Great live, but I think I'd be more into seeing Violent Ramp. Skate or die

brg30 (brg30), Friday, 18 October 2002 13:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

They are a mixed bag live. Opening for Sonic Youth recently and for Bobby Conn last year (?) they were great, powerful noisy stuff. The two other times I saw them they seemed a little directionless and were boring. And besides, the one time they had to play after the Animal Collective at a gallery in Detroit and they couldn't come anywhere near the genius of those guys that night. Seen them in various solo set-ups and it was mixed as well.

Jeff Sumner, Friday, 18 October 2002 15:06 (11 years ago) Permalink

and the total geek in me can't help but mention that 7,000,000 ^2 is 49,000,000,000,000 .... 49 trillion?

probably more people than there ever existed.

oh i'm a geek,
m.

msp, Friday, 18 October 2002 15:08 (11 years ago) Permalink

With The Locust and Arab on Radar, they were really good live. I can see how some people would get bored, but that kind of stuff keeps my attention.

A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 18 October 2002 15:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

I picked up the split 12" with Andrew WK today--found it cheap at a local shop and heard it was out of print, so I figured I'd snatch it up. Not bad stuff at all. Some of it sounds a little tame, and I haven't really sat down and analyzed the lyrics yet...

But it makes me want to pick up more. Probably the "Dread" CD or the "Fuck Pete Larsen" LP since I've seen both of those around and mailorder is a hassle sometimes.

Can anyone tell me what exactly is on the "FPL" LP? I've heard that it's a compilation but what of? Cassette releases? Singles? Comp tracks?

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 18 October 2002 20:38 (11 years ago) Permalink

Great great great live show, and I know zilch about their field of clatter...

Pete Scholtes, Friday, 18 October 2002 20:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

the FPL LP is just two sides of droning noise - side B is the asscrusher, starting out with some nice shrieking and clattering.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 20 October 2002 04:51 (11 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
Has anyone heard the two CDs that American Tapes currently has? Interminable Bleeding and Strangulation Tank. I'm a bit wary of ordering them, only because I know nothing about them. I could end up with two hours of crap.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 11 November 2002 15:40 (11 years ago) Permalink

most of the wolf eyes stuff on amtapes is poorly recorded pots and pans banging and synth bleats. and yelling. i'm not insulting it, btw, i really like most of it. american tapes releases are frequently 'mixed' by john olson (ex-universal indians, currently in wolf eyes), which involves an old noisy tape delay, some razor blade editing and letting the tapes marinate in basement filth until they sound like melted flexi discs played at 16 rpm.

there are some really great releases on am tapes (yellow eyes, the universal indians LPs, dr. gretchen's musical weightlifting program) but they can be an endurance test if you're not 'feeling it.'

and if anyone has "thrist of the worm"...i'm up for a trade.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 11 November 2002 23:44 (11 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
Has anyone heard Dead Hills yet? I've seen it at the store and pondered picking it up.

Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 8 December 2002 16:37 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well Ian, Dead Hills sounds like some of my unreleased demos in the very extreme parts. There's a lot of quiet parts with a thumpy synth drum sound and lots of echoy noise and MITB-ish vocals. Every song has a thumping slow rhythm. The last song (of three), "Dead Tropics" is probably my favorite.

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 22 December 2002 15:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed one of their songs, one of the times I've seen them. Otherwise I don't like them at all. (I seem to have inadvertantly seen them about a half-dozen times.)

Dave Fischer, Sunday, 22 December 2002 16:54 (11 years ago) Permalink


"dead hills" pretty much sounds like "dread" part 2. long extended instrumental opener that, in my memory at least, features crickets chirping. two shorter songs with vocals a la "dread". running time, 23 minutes. worth every penny.

there was also an american tapes 3" CDR called "dead hills" that seems to bear little (if any) relation to the troubleman release.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 December 2002 00:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
WOLF EYES - mid march to early april, michigan to west coast and back
CAROLINER RAINBOW ... - late march to mid/late april, from CA down
south through mid midwest up to ny back accross north
25 SUAVES - April debating whether to go east or west, best offers
get the tour!
ASHCROFT - msg's band, april west coast

gygax!, Monday, 6 January 2003 18:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
all the Amtapes stuff is great - my recent favorites are all the Dead Machines cassettes (John with gal pal / Polyamory Records founder Tovah O'Rourke) and the Dead Comet Alive cdr. Best punk label ever? quite possibly...

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes' "Dread" is the perfect soundtrack for a Michigan winter. Whether you're digging a path to your car, driving on ice in a blinding snowstorm, walking against a freezing wind, or wrestling with cabin fever, you'll find that Wolf Eyes fit seamlessly into the moment. Their music paints a picture of a greasy mound of black snow slowly melting on a salt-stained sidewalk.

When the spring begins, and you feel fully awake for the first time in months, and you're walking around in short sleeves reaquainting yourself with leaves and grass and sunlight, then you might want to listen to some different music. Right now, though, "Dread" sounds perfect.

EC, Thursday, 6 March 2003 06:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

picked up dead hills yesterday and it's reet, very throbbing gristle very bleek and industrial, nice RPG allusions a la every fucking US hardcore group out, nice skull art work reminds me of a skate board i used to have

what label is dread on?

schnell schnell, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

It's a split release between Bulb, Hanson and American Tapes. Should still be available. It's a motherfucker.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

I played Wolf Eyes (a tape of a track from 'Dread') for two friends who haven't heard much noise before. We had just smoked a lot of pot. One of them was unable to move and commented that he felt like monkeys were beating his skull in. It was pretty funny.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 14:40 (11 years ago) Permalink

the "dread" cd is 'on' bulb. the "dread" lp is 'on' american tapes+hanson, according to the back of it anyway. more interestingly and less pedantically, the LP is being reissued soon for vinylists.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:01 (11 years ago) Permalink

PEDANT ALERT: The CD I have has all three labels listed on the back.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

i have THE LP, damn you! THE ORIGINAL VINYL! MY CRED = UNASSAILABLE.

incidentally, anyone who uses soulseek should look for the live 11.15.01 video and audio by wolf eyes, it's fucking great. as are the two CDRs ("half dogs" aka olson mix and untitled aka dilloway mix) i've seen around.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 17:36 (11 years ago) Permalink

they're on tour:

03/19 Boise, ID
03/20 Seattle, WA @ The Crocodile
03/21 Olympia, WA @ No Exit
03/22 Portland, OR @ Nocturnal
03/23 OFF
03/24 Eugene, OR @ John Henry's Club
03/25 Sacramento, CA @ Espresso Metro
03/26 San Francisco, CA @ Bottom of the Hill
03/27 San Francisco, CA @ Hemlock
03/28 Oakland, CA @ Rockland
03/29 Los Angeles, CA @ The Smell
03/30 San Diego, CA @ The Casbah
03/31 Tucson, AZ @ Solar Culture
04/01 OFF
04/02 OFF
04/03 Kansas City, MO @ Your Face
04/04 St. Louis, MO @ LNAC
04/05 Murfreesboro, TN @ Red Rose Coffee House & Bistro
04/06 Lexington, KY @ Artsplace
04/15 Detroit, MI @ Magic Stick
04/17 Chicago, IL @ Fireside Bowl
04/18 Evanston, IL @ Nevin's Live
04/19 St. Paul, MN @ Macalester College

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:06 (11 years ago) Permalink

may i re-emphasize my earlier point (see first response in this thread):

SEE THEM LIVE.

(although I am bummed they played 5 shows in SF in 2001, only 3 this year. :-\ )

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:33 (11 years ago) Permalink

i'll be at the bottom of the hill show. yes i will

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 18:47 (11 years ago) Permalink

buy Uglied: www.geocities.com/berriesaswell

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

They are not playing NYC, unfortunately.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

they need to come east-coastal. i missed them this past summer at oops.

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 19:31 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah, if they had made it to the east coast with caroliner, it would've been a wet dream.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 18 March 2003 20:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

just saw this today

http://sfbg.com/37/25/art_music_wolf.html

marcg (marcg), Wednesday, 19 March 2003 19:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

The show I saw of Oops! last summer kinda sucked (well, Wolf Eyes did.) I saw them a bit earlier at The Candle Factory in Providence (with Danse Asshole and Prurient) and they rocked the fuckin house, though.

Dread roolz. Slicer is less intense but also roolz.

Ian Johnson, Thursday, 20 March 2003 02:08 (11 years ago) Permalink

the show last night was i.n.t.e.n.s.e.

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 28 March 2003 07:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

Most revived thread ever?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 28 March 2003 09:11 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
revive! cos i've been listening to dread & the drumm/dilloway cassette a lot recently, and i've noticed some new (?) tapes on slsk recently (droll vol 12, dead at hemlock sf 3-27-03 etc). so what else is good?

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 04:45 (11 years ago) Permalink

i stand by the wolf eyes "half dogs" and s/t cdrs - one mixed by dilloway, one by olson. and fucking MUGGER kicks your fucking ass.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 05:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

"Dread" is fucking classic! even if only for "burn your house down". I haven't seen them live and it woun't happen any time soon, i'm depressed :(

Jrvision (visionjr), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 08:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

toby,
i was at that hemlock show, very different from the other 4 shows i've seen. the lights were on, dilloway and olson were laughing almost the whole show. very good, i'll look for it on slsk. the dolphins next to me were eeping in delight!

j0hn dwy3r was next to me talking loudly the entire show about (!!!) himself (!!!) imagine that gee whiz.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:48 (11 years ago) Permalink

Dread is a fucking classic album.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:51 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes need to get they fool asses back down to Providence--we haven't seen 'em even remotely nearby since Oops! The Tour.

That said, Mugger rules, Dread rules, Slicer is pretty good, and they eat my fucking face live. Today, on my record shopping binge, I might pick up the split LP with Crack: We Are Rock if they still have it at Armageddon.

Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 15:52 (11 years ago) Permalink

(is there a Faxed Head thread?)

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes needs to get they punk asses to the UK. Does anyone like their earlier stuff like the s/t cd on Bulb?

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

ss, Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:05 (11 years ago) Permalink

I didn't cast revive thread, this time.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

search: "strangled in filth". runs a wide spectrum. might be my fav....

marcg (marcg), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 16:10 (11 years ago) Permalink

faxed head thread?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 17:35 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes needs to get they punk asses to the UK. Does anyone like their earlier stuff like the s/t cd on Bulb?

yes. though it really does seem like john olson joining made them the machine they are today.

JW if you're searching for old hardcore threads to revive then look hard for the one where Aaron Dilloway himself comes and puts the smackdown on some ILM guy it's funny.

the one where he criticizes someone for not listening to to live and shave in LA 'correctly'? that wasn't funny, it was sad.

your null fame (yournullfame), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:36 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah, shit like that just reminds me of why i tried to get as far away from hardcore as possible when i left college

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 10 June 2003 23:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

shit like that just reminds me of you, jess.

(damn I'm mean today)

hstencil, Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:08 (11 years ago) Permalink

old dog, new tricks, etc.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

i saw wolf eyes at a house party in k-town. they just made loud noise.

chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 11 June 2003 04:25 (11 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody heard the Mugger thing? I saw Aaron Dilloway last night, but didn't have any money to buy any records from him (he was fucking fantastic, btw).

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:01 (11 years ago) Permalink

i thought it was fucking hilarious

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

the show or the record?

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:09 (11 years ago) Permalink

haha no the thread where aaron dilloway gets all cry-baby about to live and shave. 'mugger' is a monster not to be laughed at!

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

uh, okay, I don't remember the thread, but that's cool. TLASILA rules too, btw.

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:17 (11 years ago) Permalink

when did mugger actually come out btw? i have it on bulb and it says 2003 but i'm not sure if that just refers to the reissue. it was def made before 'dread' right?

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:19 (11 years ago) Permalink

the copy I saw last night said "recorded in March 2003."

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:27 (11 years ago) Permalink

haha yes the link to the aaron dilloway interjection to TLASILA thread thus:
to live & shave in L.A. what are they up to?
note my weakness and confusion. i was practically homeless roundabout then!
wolf eyes? dead hills ok. dread poo.

bob snoom, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

YOU ARE COMPLETELY INSANE, MR. BOB SNOOM. Dread is great, just got finished listening to it.

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:47 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh dear...

bob snoom, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:50 (11 years ago) Permalink

DUDE!< /mock indignation>

Seriously, though, I think Dread is great (as do a lot of others here, apparently). What about it do you not like?

hstencil, Sunday, 22 June 2003 17:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

well i just slung it on to see - it's not really bas per se it just takes ages of dicking around before the tunes DO anything. to me they are conjuring a "fischerspooner for daytime drinkers" vibe right now

bob snoom, Sunday, 22 June 2003 18:26 (11 years ago) Permalink

bas=bad

bob snoom, Sunday, 22 June 2003 18:27 (11 years ago) Permalink

'dead hills' is better

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 18:27 (11 years ago) Permalink

Dread feels like an LP. Dead Hills feels like an EP.

Dead Hills and Black Dice - Lost Valley came out around the same time and would have made a good split.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:03 (11 years ago) Permalink

jon williams have you heard 'creature', black dice's new song yet? what do you think?

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

no, I haven't where do I get this? What is it for?

Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:16 (11 years ago) Permalink

i think it's coming out on dfa backed with that eYe remix no? i got it off slsk

ssean, Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

The EyE mix didn't impress me

Jon Williams (ex machina), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:27 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've realized my solo noise has fallen into Wolf Eyes cliche:

- Echoy, muddy vocals
- Slow plodding bass drum
- Hearing test blipping

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

jon, can i get a tape?

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:06 (11 years ago) Permalink

I think my show on Thursday is going to be recorded, and probably released by IJustLiveHere (They also put out the Snug CDR which is ILXor Ian Johnson's noise stuff.)

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 12:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh, that's that japanese karaoke guy's label? rokk on!

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

Did you see them? They're pretty good friends of mine (I drink all their beer).

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 13:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

no, we got the "afterlife experiment" cdr at my station. pretty fucked.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 June 2003 14:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

haha dude, their whole name is Japanese Karaoke Afterlife Experiment. Their new stuff is a lot better than the CDR, there's vocals used on more stuff.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:12 (11 years ago) Permalink

well, hell, man, the liner notes look like they were written by a crackhead. (though i did at first think it was JKAE not "AE" by JK, the guy who reviewed it assured everyone it was the latter...)

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes absolutely killed at the Movement Festival (formerly the Detroit Electronic Music Festival) in Detroit Memorial Day weekend. They just played at a middle school for gifted children in a wealthy suburb or Detroit, but unfortunately I didn't make the show.

That is all.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'd be interested to see this review. I haven't see the liner notes because there is at least four different versions of the CDR.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:21 (11 years ago) Permalink

Jon,

Is anyone gonna release your and Ian's stuff?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ian samples it on his CD. I'm not really happy with the lack of stereo separation on the stuff we recorded with a room mic. A lot of it is boring. I think we might do some stuff with my current solo setup + his current solo setup. Then I'll cut up the earlier tracks. I don't know.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 15:31 (11 years ago) Permalink

omg people really will listen to anything

chaki (chaki), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:27 (11 years ago) Permalink

people go to your shows right?

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

ouch!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:39 (11 years ago) Permalink

ouch? that aint shit.

chaki (chaki), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

hehe... anyone who claims the 805 is all right w/ me.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 June 2003 16:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

omg i just read a website thats the history of "nardcore" (oxnard punk) it was like 805 pride all over the place

chaki (chaki), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:03 (11 years ago) Permalink

link please!

does it mention scott radinsky (major league baseball pitcher and teenage screamer for scared straight?)

i only got my "nardcore" jones as a youngster from rodney bingenheimer bootleg tapes that i'd buy via mailorder...

aside from scared straight, ill repute's "clean cut american kid" was the most memorable of all those tracks.

[funny thing, dilloway would love this thread now]

the wolf eyes side project violent ramp is pretty much riding the vibe of some of the nardcore "local apocalypse" action that comes through.

when i lived in ventura, i surfed hollywood-by-the-sea and silver strand a few times and never felt that heavy local scene that was infamous in the 80s.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:16 (11 years ago) Permalink

nice!

scott radinsky from simi valley! (like me) now in jock rock bands Pulley and Ten Foot Pole!

still tryin to find that link...

chaki (chaki), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

sort of on topic,
has anyone heard tan as fuck before?x new faggot cunts if anyone remembers them..
im doing a show for them in milwaukee when they come through on thursday (mossmaster from neon hunk is also playing)they rule

juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Monday, 23 June 2003 17:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

Tan as Fuck played the other night with the Dutchies (who I think they're touring with), myself, Noise Nomads and Japanese Karaoke Afterlife Experiment. They ruled. Noisy/droney/jazzy stuff. I'm not sure how much of it was improv and how much was written, but it was quite fun. Loud drones building to crescendos, jazzy drumming, sometimes bass or guitar. Totally cool in my book.

Ian Johnson, Monday, 23 June 2003 18:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh, and assuming the dutchies are playing also, they're a weird kind of Riot Grrl/Pop Punk thing. Like you'd expect to find on Kill Rock Stars about 7-8 years ago. Good, though. Nice girls and catchy toonz.

Ian Johnson, Monday, 23 June 2003 18:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

One of the girls from the dutchies was flirting with me :(

I was way too drunk!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 23 June 2003 18:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

yea the dutchies are playing too.im pumped!

juiceboxxx (juiceboxxx), Monday, 23 June 2003 19:01 (11 years ago) Permalink

omg i just read a website thats the history of "nardcore" (oxnard punk) it was like 805 pride all over the place

what the hell? everybody's all up in my hometown's crack.

your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 23 June 2003 23:51 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
http://while1.net/~xm/audio/Andrew%20WK%20-%20Wolf%20Eyes%20Rules.mp3


Here's the Andrew WK thing if y'all wanna hear it.

Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 24 July 2003 17:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wow,....So I just found this...and it's funny, cuz that thing about To live and Shave that was posted like two years ago, that yer'all talkin about was not posted by me...Anyone that knows me could tell you just by the writing that that was not me...funny though. I will say that the first To Live and Shave CD is probably my favorite recording of the 90's. But I did not even know about this board until like a week ago. Someone was using my name. Also, it is flattering to see all the nice things said about Wolf Eyes...We are a mess, but I'm glad that some of ya'll dig it.
lata,
A

Aaron Dilloway, Monday, 4 August 2003 06:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

Hey dude from Wolf Eyes,

You should play Rochester, NY again cause I'm moving there soon, so now with Pengoo there's like over 10 people who would go to the show.

K THX!!!!

Jon Williams (ex machina), Monday, 4 August 2003 10:05 (11 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
haha woah, i never noticed this before.

anyone know when the next 'real' album is being released?

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 03:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

it'll be out on Sub Pop, last I heard, summer 2004. it's gonna rule, too

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 03:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

hey roger, give me polyamory things.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 03:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

totally! lemme know what you need....

www.geocities.com/berriesaswell.

Toves hasn't updated in a while but everything that's still listed is available

roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 17 February 2004 04:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm seeing Wolf Eyes! YEA! YEA!
http://www.logrus.com/bugjar/viewevent.cgi?eventid=894.0

Anyone know about RUBBER-O-CEMENT?

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 18 February 2004 06:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
Listening to the Wolf Eyes "w/ Spikes" CD, it begins really boring, droning, typical Wolf Eyes shit. They start to add synths and more noise . Then suddenly Nate's vocals come in PERFECTLY clear and unexpected on one side of the headphones. He makes some totally weird noises that sound more like some of the vocal sounds that Black Dice would sue before beginnning stuff with actual lyrics. Ocassionally there is some vut up bit of onamonapeia from him, as the band thumps and drones away.

Liking this so far. Its now in a break where the pulse has stopped and there's all kinds of paper ripping noises.

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

This definitely has a different version of Wretched Hog from Dread.

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

Amazing! This song samples a distorted version of that Xmas song that goes "something something Christ the king".

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 12:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

I have "Mugger" and one that they did with Black Dice. It's very noisy with a few ambient bits but mostly unlistenable noise. That said it was quite cool strolling around a market town in the British sunshine whilst listening to it. Is this stuff typical of what they do? Sometimes I do wonder what the appeal is here and how much one should take this kind of music seriously?

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard Mugger, but the Black Dice collaboration is fairly atypical for them.

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 13:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Black Dice collab was a lot more restrained than I thought it would be. I like it, though. Anyone else hear their Recycled Music cassette? At one point it sounds like the hull of ship breaking up.

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 15:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nardcore love on this thread.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 16:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

Mugger is kind of atypical for them.. they usually have a lot more dynamic variation; Mugger tends to be ALL LOUD, ALL THE TIME, if I remember correctly.

The recyceld cassette is great too!

The Lost Sockets 3" that came out recently on Chondritic isn't as thrilling. I think I've only listened to it once or twice since I got it.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 21:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

from the Polyamory mailing list, if anyone's interested:

'released' today on Polyamory:

WOODEN WAND & TOVAH D DAY
"Bad News Bearers" cassette

Bad News Bearers is a very special release in that it commemorates the very first released one-on-one collaboration between Polyamory co-founders / best friends Wooden Wand and Tovah D Day. It took nearly ten years, but here it is.

Fans of Tovah's other band Dead Machines will be happy to hear that the future Mrs.Olson is definitely the captain of this particluar ship, her cracked electronics, pitch-fucked cymbal sputter and lonely wolf calls taking center stage, while Wooden Wand augments with ring modulator, voice and percussion. Our favorite Polyamory release since A Cut Above!

$5 ppd - paypal to oracle909@aol.com preferred.

www.geocities.com/berriesaswell
http://sinkhole.net/woodenwand

roger adultery (roger adultery), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 22:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

WOLF EYES FUCKING RULES MAN

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

GIRLS THINK THEY ARE "TOO MACHO."

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 18:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

they're not macho!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

geeta rulez.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

geeta, pls marry me. kthx.

(x-post)

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

haha christ

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 21 May 2004 20:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_wolfeyes.shtml

^ 52 minute interview! do they address the macho issue?~?!?@!

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

degrassi junior high is "totally intense"

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

(Words and music by the Zit Remedy)

Everybody get ready, and get into gear....

the Degrassi sensation

the one and only

the zits are here!

everybody wants something they'll never give up

everybody wants something they'll take your money and never give up

everybody face up to the facts as they are,

dedication is hard but, you'll be somebody and you'll go far

everybody wants something they'll never give up

everybody wants something, they'll tkae your money and never give up!

ben tausig (datageneral), Monday, 28 June 2004 15:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

two taco bell refs so far

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

"weirdo psychopathic president, wars, gnarly times"

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

dissing on early Lightning Bolt

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Eugene, Oregon doesn't like Wolf Eyes.

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

dissing on Detroit Electronic Music Level volumes

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

I am going to see Wolf Eyes this coming weekend. If my life doesn't change, I'm coming to get you, Jon.

St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

THEY USED THE EXPRESSION "RATTY NOISE DUDES"

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

giggling about subpop!!!

Player Piano Gamelan (ex machina), Monday, 28 June 2004 16:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've had the pleasure of viewing Degrassi with Dilloway, and dude, there is NO TALKING allowed. I'm serious. Shit is real.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 28 June 2004 19:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
My coworker asked me if Wolf Eyes was "Modem Music". ROFFLE

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

caitlin avoid Jon Williams he is a moron and a creep

-- dfdfsdf (gdfgdf...) (webmail), July 21st, 2004 11:07 AM. (later) (link)

-- gddfgd@dgg (ggdfgdf...), July 22nd, 2004.
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dgdfgdg, Thursday, 22 July 2004 12:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Hayes Electronics stocks and sells a particular brand of microcomputer. It costs the firm $450 each time it places an order with the manufacturer for the microcomputers. The cost of carrying one microcomputer in inventory for a year is $170. The store manager estimates that total annual demand for the computers will be 1,200 units, with a constant demand rate throughout the year. Orders are received within minutes after placement from a local warehouse maintained by the manufacturer. The store policy is to never have stockouts of the microcomputers. The store is open for business every day of the year except Christmas Day. Determine the following:

a. Optimal order quantity per order

b. Minimum total annual inventory costs

c. The optimum number of orders per year

d. The optimum time between orders (in working days)

thorJESUHOY (Thor), Thursday, 22 July 2004 13:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

FROM THE HANSON/AM. TAP3Z LIST:

if that weren't enough, the mpls clearchannel venue's website also has
a third band listed on the bill called "wolf's eyes"...

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

what's the Hanson/AM Tapes list? I thought I was on it but I just get like 1 announcement email every two months (I am on X HM X or something).

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

What is the Hanson/AM Tapes list? I thought I was on it but I only get like one email every two months (I am on X HM X or something).

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

caitlin avoid Jon Williams he is a moron and a creep

-- dfdfsdf (gdfgdf...) (webmail), July 21st, 2004 11:07 AM. (later) (link)

-- gddfgd@dgg (ggdfgdf...), July 22nd, 2004.
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-- dgdgdf (gdfgd...), July 22nd, 2004.

dgdfgdf, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

Daniel, there's a discussion one without the X's

I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

caitlin avoid Jon Williams he is a moron and a creep

-- dfdfsdf (gdfgdf...) (webmail), July 21st, 2004 11:07 AM. (later) (link)

-- gddfgd@dgg (ggdfgdf...), July 22nd, 2004.
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-- dgdgdf (gdfgd...), July 22nd, 2004.

dfgdfgd, Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeah, daniel, if you want to be exposed to endless discussion of horror movies, obscure prog, and any two guys with an oscillator and a distortion pedal, go to HN_AM. the one with Xs is just for release announcements.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

*Artist: DEMOS YELLOW SWANS
Title: Live In The Police State Capitol
Format: LP
Label: Weird Forest
Country: USA
Price: $13.00
"Im extremely honored to release this one-sided twelve-inch by one of my favorite bands, D. Yellow Swans. 1/4" Tape, Guitar, Voice, Drum Machines, Microphones, Mixer Feedback, Various Electronics and Two Wonderful Fellas (formerly of Mur*der and Boxleitner) from San Francisco-via-Portland who craft Wolf Eyes-style pieces that build up to mammoth walls of noise via keyboards, guitars, processors, etc. This record is live recordings from Sacramento and Arcata, circa fall 2003. Theyve collaborated with Dead Science in the past, as well as sharing the stage with Nice Nice, Burning Star Core, Wives, and oodles of others - just so ya know where these guys are coming from. Forthcoming releases on Narnack, Deathbombarc, and gobs more. They improvise off each other to create the mesmeric, volatile yet controlled chaos of electronic sear, rasp and burn. Full spectrum tonality, sonic exploration, the opening of new doors of perception, spiritual journey, and the establishment of new, Â meaningful shared cultural experience in the tradition of folk and native musics from around the globe invoking Freedom, Happiness, Love, and the sharing and incitement of these feelings in others. Positivity. Total Liberation. Limited to 500 copies." - Weird Forest.

anyone? anyone?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

never heard anything good about 'em but still never heard 'em.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

I have the split 3" with Gang Wizard. I think the D Yellow Swans track is like them playing acoustic guitars and yelling in either a men's or women's bathroom. Maybe that's what the Gang Wizard side sounds like too. In any case it's pretty good.

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Thursday, 22 July 2004 22:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

They played in Prov. with Kites and I was told it was good, but I wasn't there myself.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Friday, 23 July 2004 02:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
Gygax, do you say that you "prefer the early stuff" by every band ever or am I imagining things?

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anyway, I really like Wolf Eyes.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 01:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

What is the noisiest noise that Wolf Eyes ever recorded? I am writing an essay about noise (kind of)!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's the one that went ccrcrccrrstrcaytsccsdatycaveoooooooow!!!...and then went all quiet before doing it again about a minute and a half later.

The title of the song has "Maggot" or "Freak" in it.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

yeah, exactly!

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes isn't really particularly "noisy"

Extreme SUPER LOUD wall of sound noise mostly bores me and is pretty trivial to make

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

(that's 'super c' for those with images turned off).

ex-jeremy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 04:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

What I mean is, I am writing an essay about "noise."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:10 (9 years ago) Permalink

how can you understand wolf eyes unless you've heard every release

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

How do you keep a wave upon the sand?

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

adam, where did i say that you poncy scot?

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

You will hate my essay, Jon!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

(I've been thinking of you often during its composition.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

(What do I know about noise after all!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

i ate a twix just now

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

Musicians in my essay so far that I call "noise": John Cage, Screamin' Jay Hawkins, Dizzee Rascal, PJ Harvey, My Bloody Valentine, Ornette Coleman, Sonic Youth, Lil Jon, Neu!, Daft Punk.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like all those artists!

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

if you wanna understand wolf eyes, you need to understand DUB

Free the Bee (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 05:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

http://www.nyaperspektiv.se/Perspectives2004/index2.htm

Here are US dates....

10/27/2004
The Living Room
Providence
RI
Rubber O Cement, Made in Mexico


10/28/2004
Tonic
New York
NY
Rubber O Cement


10/29/2004
Vox Populi Gallery
Philadelphia
PA
Rubber O Cement


10/30/2004
Talking Head
Baltimore
MD
Rubber O Cement, Double Dagger


10/31/2004
The Warehouse Next Door
Washington
DC
Rubber O Cement


11/1/2004
The Werehouse
Winston-Salem
NC
Rubber O Cement, Catwell


11/2/2004
The Village Tavern
Mt. Pleasant
SC
Rubber O Cement, Death Cheetah


11/3/2004
Drunken Unicorn
Atlanta
GA
Rubber O Cement, Wilson & Heath


11/5/2004
Spellcaster Lodge
New Orleans
LA
Rubber O Cement


11/6/2004
Mary Janes Fat Cat
Houston
TX
Rubber O Cement, A Pink Cloud


11/7/2004
Emos Jr.
Austin
TX
Rubber O Cement, Aurora Plastic Company


11/9/2004
Modified Arts
Phoenix
AZ
Rubber O Cement


11/10/2004
Casbah
San Diego
CA
Smegma, Comets On Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/11/2004
Echo
Los Angeles
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/12/2004
The Mile High Club
Oakland
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/13/2004
Bottom of the Hill
San Francisco
CA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/14/2004
The Meow Meow
Portland
OR
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/15/2004
Chop Suey
Seattle
WA
Smegma, Comets on Fire, Rubber O Cement


11/18/2004
Triple Rock Club
Minneapolis
MN
Rubber O Cement, Diamonds


11/19/2004
Empty Bottle
Chicago
IL
Psychic TV


11/20/2004
Magic Stick
Detroit
MI
Psychic TV

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

i bought "stabbed in the face" and now really wish i hadn't

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

Why not, esoj? i managed to not get that when it was in stores around here, but i really like burned mind; is there something about it that makes it weaker than other recent WE material (including dread/slicer/dead hills/any random whatever)?

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

well i'm perhaps overstating the case but i'm yet to be convinced it's my sort of thing. i suck as a noize dude.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh, that's fair totally--they're not everyone's cup of tea. i'm still kind of curious (in a bizarre fetishistic sort of way) about what you don't like about it, and wolf eyes in general. i fear i don't remember sometimes.

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 05:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

I love them now. Opposite of my post upthread.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 06:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

pwned

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 07:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

FreeBee, "I 'Get' Wolf Eyes" = OTM

Nancy Boy (scottkundla), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 09:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

Jon ex-machina, it is with British pride that I announce that Wolf Eyes are on the front cover of The Wire magazine.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone in Britain actually read the Wire?

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

me and 15,000 + ? others

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 15:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm told all you guys do is listen to the Libertines and suck.....

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

ha, jon check my blog - i was the first person on the web to critically attack the libertines before they even released anything.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

Music that tries really hard to be scary is kind of silly.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

unless it works really fucking well.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

ha, jon check my blog - i was the first person on the web to critically attack the libertines before they even released anything.

-- DJ Martian (altmartinu...), October 20th, 2004. (later)

BEST EVER. KISSES!!!

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

New issue: The Wire
http://www.thewire.co.uk/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 16:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

I like Belle and Sebastian

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Do they mention in the article how they got arrested during the cover shoot?

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 20:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

whoa. that's even edgier than the dude from sunburned pants of the man talking about doin' some crimes!!!

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 21 October 2004 09:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Taking Sides: Tangerine Dream vs. Wolf Eyes

They're pretty good, but I bet there's no Phaedra.

iannis, Friday, 22 October 2004 19:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

We just listened to Wolf Eyes "Burned Mind" and thought, huh, pretty heavy. Then we listened to Paranoid and decided Wolf Eyes are cute and harmless. But it's friday, and the whiskey is taking hold.

superultramega (superultramarinated), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

Music that tries really hard to be scary is kind of silly

Perhaps kind of silly, but not necessarily bad - see Merzbow and Borbetomagus, for instance. What I've heard of Wolf Eyes ("Dead Hills" mostly) is good in much the same way as those bands are - the absurdity inherent in extreme music is one of its virtues.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

superultramega: you shouldn't listen to wolf eyes for a ROCK experience the way you do with sabbath. for that you should see the eyes live where the beats will flow like wine. i still haven't been able to find my copy of dread. wtf. been jamming that recycled tape a lot lately though.. some totally killer live jams.

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 22 October 2004 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

you shouldn't listen to the gratedul dead for a ROCK experience the way you do with Sabbath. For that you should see the dead live where Jerry's licks flow like wine. . . .

ouroborus, Friday, 22 October 2004 21:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

"wolf eyes rules" is still my favourite track, but somebody said that the entire thing was andrew wk's work instead of being a rmx - any help from the noize dude contingent?

etc, Friday, 22 October 2004 22:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes LIVE on the other hand is as ROCK an experience as you may get these days.

the red c, Friday, 22 October 2004 22:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

Wolf Eyes rules is Andrew WK

Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Friday, 22 October 2004 23:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...
I have never heard Wolf Eyes. They are playing in Glasgow on Saturday. Should I see them? I suppose I'm asking people who know what I like, but I don't know who that is. Me?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's the best rave and death metal show you've ever been to all in one giant charlie horse from your older cousin.

(Yes)

Darkness can't wait, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm going.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

I do not think that you will like them.

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm staying in.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

go but don't listen to them.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

yes, he's right!

No really, Alba - you WON'T like them.

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

And I DO like them, I just don't think you will.

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

adam, where did i say that you poncy scot?

EVERYWHERE

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

OMG

Jason D. how was your sandwich for lunch today?

guess who you borrowed SLICER from? i'll hook you up tomorrow with the real deal.

too funny...

hahahahaha, never noticed this before!

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

What does Alba like?

Darkness again, me, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Hi! I like Grime and wear funny pants.

European Samuel Glickstein (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

I only have one pair of "pants"! They're jeans, just jeans.

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm poor, you see.

European Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 18:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

hahahahaha, never noticed this before!

it was the beginning of something beautiful.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

but back to the topic at hand, i'm not sure if I condone the current line-up of Wolf Eyes mk. III.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

Never mind Wolf Eyes - Tony Conrad is on the same bill.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

does Tony Conrad have t-shirts with skulls on them?

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:28 (9 years ago) Permalink

do Wolf Eyes wear fedora's?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

fedoras

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pickled Pickslide, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

hmmmm...

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pickled Pickslide, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

current Wolf Eyes line-up = no Dilloway? I don't think he's playing the Glasgow show...

I see that the CCA website is listing the Saturday gig as Tony Conrad's 'first UK Show' - utter bollox, cos I saw Conrad/Faust in London maybe ten years ago now? it was OK, but I'm more excited abt catching Double Leopards on the same bill - I contrived to miss most of their set at the SY ATP last year (I was watching Saccahrine Trust upstairs and they were great too, in their way)

I don't think Alba will like Wolf Eyes either

Andrew J L, Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

Double Leopards are great. Wolf Eyes lineup = no Dilloway, but Mike Connelly from Hair Police. I wasn't really into it when I saw them.

Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 20:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't forget to bring your noise chain so you can chime in with the band's pretty melodies.

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

hasselt, belgium. 25th of june: Wolf Eyes + Sunn O))) *drools*

that's a bill tighter than a pair of glamrock spandex

rizzx (rizzx), Wednesday, 20 April 2005 21:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

wolf eyes and Sunn O))) playing in SF the day AFTER I leave = total massive dud

superultramega (superultramarinated), Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

what're double leopards like live compared to halve maen? been falling asleep to this lots; ROKK.

etc, Thursday, 21 April 2005 01:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

very minimal, hypnotic stuff. or so i've heard

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 21 April 2005 07:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

£8 concession!

I'm most excited about double leopards.

will you go, alba?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

you might like them.

anyway, sometimes it's nice to be a part of something.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 21 April 2005 09:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Will you bring the blanket?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

the fire blanket.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 21 April 2005 10:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

me too - don't forget me.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 21 April 2005 11:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
i noticed promo copies of the new one on sub pop are already on ebay, so i figure someone has heard it already. thoughts?

fffnnnsss (fffnnnsss), Saturday, 5 August 2006 04:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

it's on slsk already as well. heard it once, liked it. need to listen more to form some kind of solid opinion on it of course you know yeah

rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 5 August 2006 09:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

the one track i heard, "The Driller" was pretty cool

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 5 August 2006 09:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Picked up the "Driller" / "Psychogeist" 12-inch this past weekend. It's excellent. Driller is, I guess, the hit. It's compact, with shrieky vocals and something almost approximating a melody. In context, I mean...

"Psychogeist," on the other hand, is an extended, ambient drone. Has some clangorous elements but overall, it's very subdued. Wolf Eyes dub. Both songs, actually, are rather relaxed in feel. Kinda nice, even. Definitely lacking the ear-drilling, bowel-clenching panic of Dead Hills & Burned Mind. More hypnotic than terror-inducing, and very much of a piece with the recent River Slaughter dbl LP. Massive trumpet squalls in the foreground, though often mutated almost beyond recognition.

True to form, it's all very cinematic, suggesting a railroad yard in darkness or an abandoned highway overpass. Occasional muted smears of red and green light in the distance. Wind over steel and concrete, hung machinery and patient rust. Cars and engines sweeping through but never stopping. You know: textbook industrial noir, and I'm still surprised haven't been tapped to do more soundtrack work. (Maybe they have and aren't interested. Dunno...)

Are they retreating, or moving forward? Hard to say, but the recent, Dilloway-free material does sound more similar to the Wolf Eyes of Slicer and the early singles and CD-Rs than to the "Slayer-influenced" sounds of 2004-05 (which came off more like a lo-fi, scuzzcore Skinny Puppy, anyway).

Great stuff, but I can't imagine this is gonna widen their fan base much...

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

the album is more ambient/droney than i expected, but then Driller and Noise Not Music bring on the "ear-drilling"

pinder (pinder), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

sooooo 2003?

=[[ (eman), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Touché.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:59 (8 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

sooooo 2003?

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Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

I dunno, I saw them live last year and it was great. Results may vary, I guess.

mh, Monday, 6 August 2007 17:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

early wolf eyeys is such a rip off of early skinny puppy it's unreal

r1o natsume, Saturday, 26 July 2008 03:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

I went to a bar b q at one of these guy's house

filthy dylan, Saturday, 26 July 2008 04:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

filthy dylan, do you live in ypsilanti?

Pillbox, Saturday, 26 July 2008 13:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

Detroit, but it was in ypsilanti. Also, a while back Wolf Eyes did an installation at an art gallery and they showed all these records they made on their personal lathe including this chunk of vinyl that had two intersecting grooves and looked like an infiniti sign. It was pretty cool

filthy dylan, Saturday, 26 July 2008 14:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Fucking dreadful.

littlewhiteearbuds, Saturday, 26 July 2008 14:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

their best proper LP = dread.
Second post in this thread, six years ago. Still true. And I still dig what they were doing circa Dead Hills/Burned Mind. Not so much since.

contenderizer, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

dead hills is excellent, and such a beautiful picture disc

r1o natsume, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i still get in the mood to bust out Burned Mind and Dread every now and again. haven't heard Dead Hills, maybe i'll look that up.

rockapads, Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Just d/led a Wolf Eyes CDR called delwar showdown and most of it seems to just be recordings of them hanging out and going to shows, yet it is at least semi awesome for a couple of listens. Can anybody recommend any more of their weird novelty-esque releases, no matter how obscure, rar has made obscurationists of us all u guys!

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Sunday, 23 August 2009 19:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

just came here to say slicer is awesome

wilter, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 09:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

I set up a goodwill purchased receiver/speaker combo to boost my TV and DVD enjoyment and one of the first things I watched was the COVERED IN BUGS DVD. There's a great "rotten tropics" from a basement full of fifteen year olds in Ann Arbor at the end of the compilation segment.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 13:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

Saw Wolf Eyes last night and they kinda sucked. All ponderous and glitchy. What happened to the awesome psychedelic sax freakouts I saw support Whitehouse a couple of years ago?

kraudive, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I really wish bands would keep on making the same records over and over, too, for I am also a predictable, boring, joyless masochist who fears change, and I prefer the music I enjoy to reflect that.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow

kraudive, Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

now that's bringing your a-game!!! x-post

I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Here we go again...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 3 June 2010 17:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

well, it's the most revived thread ever for a reason

anyway, anybody feel the recentish wolf eyes lp on hospital, always wrong. i didn't, but am curious abt others' reactions. way too one-dimensionally shrill and grating for me, with none of the murky, gooey, tarpit throb that used to hold down the shriek & clatter. for some reason, i'm inclined to blame the shift on dominic fernow, as it sounds like a prurient-approved version of the band. honestly tho, i haven't liked much (any?) of the post dillo stuff.

the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I enjoy the emphasis on Nate's vocals - I like them higher in the mix. It's sort of a different band now, I agree (not a bad thing), but when I saw them a few months ago they were as murky, deranged and fucked up as ever.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah, they've remained very satisfying live, though it's been a while since i last saw em. and i love the emphasis on vocals and clearly structured songs, just wish the whole thing were recorded a little differently. total inversion of my reaction to my favorite WE records, which sound amazing and inviting, regardless of how unstructured and supposedly "harsh" the music is.

the other is a black gay gentleman from Los Angeles (contenderizer), Thursday, 3 June 2010 20:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Interviewing Nate Young tomorrow night - anyone got any questions for him?

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't have any questions but tell him his recent solo albums RULE

shabba lambides (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

The show itself was pretty awesome (nice 'n' subdued atmospherics w/harmonica + wah-wah wig out) and he's an exceptionally good interviewee. Swell guy as well.

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

One man thread revival continues. Here's my review of the show if anyone's interested - I'd never been to a gig of this kind, let alone written about one, so any advice/feedback would be really welcome:

http://crackmagazine.net//article/648/nate-young/

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 20 April 2012 10:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like a good night. Have you heard the Stare Case record?

Trip Maker, Friday, 20 April 2012 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

FINAL thread revival: the one and only Experimedia have run with my interview and it's the first they've ever published so i'm rather proud. enjoy:

http://experimedia.tumblr.com/post/22254606220/nateyounginterview

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cool interview. I should've told you to ask him what that sound is that appears on most of his albums.

C.C. Sabbathian of the Doom York Yankees (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 3 May 2012 04:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

new wolf eyes

scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/advance/59-no-answer/

scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

been totally digging wolf eyes the last couple of days. they sound better than ever to me. the old stuff. sounds more CURRENT to me than it did at the turn of the century. for some reason. really appreciate the old stuff more now than i did at the time.

scott seward, Monday, 1 April 2013 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

they are really really good.

Heyman (crüt), Monday, 1 April 2013 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh he'll yes

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 1 April 2013 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

New one pretty tasty at first blush.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Courtney Love CobainVerified account
‏@Courtney
@pitchforkmedia wait so Wolf Eyes is the most important band of the last 20 years ? lets got to my local bar and duke this out

The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

no let's go to MY local bar, bitch.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nate Young via Aaron Dilloway
HA too funny! 16 years ago WE banned her from our gigs, and she finally wants to fight

The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

i want wolf eyes vs. courtney love storytime

The description of my page is: Gargoyles Swimsuit Special (Matt P), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i thought the bump would've been for the wolf eyes rider from 15 years ago: http://swezlex.com/woofpies/jsdemands.html

a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Always Wrong didn't do anything for me, Human Animal was the shit

also w/ ss. been having a reappreciation sesh over the past few weeks, and the early stuff (slicer thru burned mind or thereabouts) still sounds great. especially enjoying the more ambient long-format stuff, live tracks, etc.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, these guys were pretty much one of the best things going until Aaron Dilloway left. Human Animal was the last thing he worked on and it's a total decline from there imo.

circa1916, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 03:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah new one is dope in a Slicer way at points

Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxp - holy shit! that is my sometime bandmate's website! </pvmic>

You must be very cold in the sack. (sarahell), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 04:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

anybody seen them recently? any good?

Crackle Box, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 10:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

Saw them at Netil House last night...hahahahah they are SO SO SO CAMP live! I'd only ever seen Nate Young solo before and that was a really sombre, dark, slow set. This was him and John Olson wearing cut-off denim jackets and leather camps doing yr archetypal hype-macho stances for an hour. Louder than I thought was possible too. Their new guitarist dude is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild!

They were supported by Folkazoid (who would have been awesome if I was stoned and seventeen) and Porn (Thurston Moore and Bill Gould from Faith No More doing some kind of improv avant metal shit, was geat, Thurston spent the whole gig looking like he was about to blat every where. Ended with some crucial thrash shit) who were wicked.

Sad to not see a single ironic fist pump all night tho.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 09:20 (9 months ago) Permalink

but seriously, that sounds like an awesome gig.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

The Dale Crover Porn is a different Porn, isn't it?

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

tbh I've never been quite sure, and they are tricky to search for online! I thought they're all part of the same collective-type-thing though?

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah I suppose that's possible, I just always thought of the Dale Crover version first. This new line-up sounds great too.

JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:53 (9 months ago) Permalink

regardless, Experiments in Feedback is great, particularly the final track which is 15min long and is a loop of a particularly nasty bit of feedback. Far out!

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:03 (9 months ago) Permalink


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