As usual, it begins Thanksgiving week. The first one I've seen is the Rough Trade shop. Not technically a critic's poll, but like some of the better on-line retailers like Aquarius and Boomkat, they have a staff who writes blurbs and votes. Bloggers and freelance/single/married/swingin' critics welcome to submit here too!
Rough Trade Shops Albums of the Yearhttp://www.roughtrade.com/site/content.lasso?page=AOY_2012_page1.html
01 Grimes - Visions02 John Talabot - Fin03 Toy - Toy04 Allo Darlin - Europe05 Goat - World Music06 Damien Jurado - Maraqopa07 Alt J - An Awesome Wave08 Django Django - Django Django09 Alabama Shakes - Boys & Girls10 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
I'd put money on Frank Ocean getting #1 in Pazz & Jop and several other places. It gives off AOTY vibes.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
unless you listen to it
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
I knew you'd respond. That was my Lex batsignal.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Haha.
Yeah, Channel Orange is going to be #1 on a lot of lists.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
Looks like Ocean is a good bet, and/or Kendrick Lamar. Swans, Grizzly Bear, Beach House, Death Grips, Tame Impala, Jack White and uh, apparently Fiona Apple.
I think the best part are seeing the lists for the first time from publications that focus on certain genres that I follow. Nowadays, the overall Pazz & Jop type of superpolls are predictable enough based on all the rating score aggragators like Metacritic, Any Decent Music, Best Ever Albums and Album of the Year.
I'm looking forward to lists from Rock-A-Rolla, Decibel, The Soda Shop, Heavy Planet, Captain Beyond Zen, Doomantia, The Obelisk, The Quietus, The Wire and Terrorizer.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
"uh apparently" fiona apple made the best album by far of that lot
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
by far
Naw.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
The ILM poll is always interesting too!
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
I like Fiona Apple but after several listens the album did nothing for me, and I chalked it up as not one of her best and forgot about it. I'm just surprised to see her name after not hearing much about her since the album's June release. Will definitely give it some more listens.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
I would love for The Idler Wheel to blow me away completely, and in snatches it does, but it could never take the place of When The Pawn in my heart.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
never much cared for Fiona's voice to begin with and it makes my skin crawl on the new one
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
if i was ranking fiona's albums i'd put the idler wheel behind the flawless when the pawn, but they're so different that it doesn't feel like a strict either/or assessment is adequate
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
"hot knife" blows me away, like, completely
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Hot knife is amazing. The album isnt quite as consistant as when the pawn, but it's pretty high my list this year. Very different, in my mind to her other stuff, but that just might be from where I'm coming from no w as a listener.
― Regional Tug (irrational), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
"Hot Knife" is def. part of the "snatches". As it stands the album is in my top 20.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
I've taken to The Idler Wheel faster than to any other Apple record.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
just this morning "Jonathan" impressed me all over again
gross dude
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
Frank Ocean is my current prediction to win P&J.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
will there be a P&J?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
channel orange is my favourite album of the year, without a doubt.
― childish bambino (rennavate), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred asked what I was going to ask. (And if there is one, will people vote?)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
The game is afoot!
Decibel’s Top 40 Albums Of 2012
40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage39 Meshuggah – Koloss38 Agalloch – Faustian Echoes EP37 The Shrine – Primitive Blast36 Incantation – Vanquish In Vengeance35 Samothrace – Reverence To Stone34 Devin Townsend Project – Epicloud33 Panopticon – Kentucky32 Saint Vitus – LILLIE: F-6531 Mutilation Rites – Empyrean30 Author & Punisher – Urus Americanus29 A Life Once Lost – Ecstatic Trance28 Asphyx – Deathhammer27 Farsot – Insects26 Gaza – No Absolute For Human Suffering25 Inverloch – Dark/Subside24 Swans – The Seer23 Horrendous – The Chills22 Killing Joke – MMXII21 Early Graves – Red Horse20 Liberteer – Better To Die On Your Feet Than Live On Your Knees19 High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis18 Napalm Death – Utiltarian17 Torche – Harmonicraft16 Grave – Endless Procession Of Souls15 Satan’s Wrath – Galloping Blasphemy14 Testament – Dark Roots Of Earth13 Cattle Decapitation – Monolith Of Inhumanity12 Blut Aus Nord – 777: Cosmosophy11 Municipal Waste – The Fatal Feast10 Pig Destroyer – Book Burner09 Paradise Lost – Tragic Idol08 Royal Thunder – CVI07 Enslaved – Riitiir06 Neurosis – Honor Found In Decay05 Pallbearer – Sorrow and Extinction04 Witchcraft – Legend03 Evoken – Altra Mors02 Baroness – Yellow & Green01 Converge – All We Love We Leave Behind
Decibel is always full of surprises. While Dawnbringer's Nucleus was #4 in 2010, the new one didn't even make the list. Gojira is a little low! I'm glad to see Baroness up there after the beatdowns it's received, but it's even higher than I'd expect! Pleasantly surprised to see Witchcraft and Royal Thunder up high, but then where are Graveyard and Christian Mistress? Neurosis are cool of course, but their labelmates/buds Ufomammut kick the shit out of that album. Similarly, I'd take the Conan album over Pallbearer's, which I like, but would rate it down closer to the Saint Vitus.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
Pleasantly surprised to see Witchcraft and Royal Thunder up high, but then where are Graveyard and Christian Mistress?
Especially since the latter two are approximately 100x better than the ones Decibel liked.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
yep. It looks like maybe 2 of their top 40 would be in mine, but then again I haven't heard about 1/3 of these.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
The yep was for 誤訳侮辱 seconding fastnbulbous. I'm in total agreement on those two.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
My annotation of the Decibel list:
40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage (should have been way higher, but I'm biased)39 Meshuggah – Koloss (didn't like)38 Agalloch – Faustian Echoes EP (didn't hear)37 The Shrine – Primitive Blast (didn't like)36 Incantation – Vanquish In Vengeance (haven't heard yet but I like the band a bunch)35 Samothrace – Reverence To Stone (who?)34 Devin Townsend Project – Epicloud (pfft)33 Panopticon – Kentucky (who?)32 Saint Vitus – LILLIE: F-65 (should have been higher)31 Mutilation Rites – Empyrean (who?)30 Author & Punisher – Urus Americanus (didn't hear)29 A Life Once Lost – Ecstatic Trance (didn't hear, but I like the band, but I also like Emmure)28 Asphyx – Deathhammer (meh)27 Farsot – Insects (who?)26 Gaza – No Absolute For Human Suffering (didn't hear)25 Inverloch – Dark/Subside (who?)24 Swans – The Seer (didn't like)23 Horrendous – The Chills (who?)22 Killing Joke – MMXII (meh)21 Early Graves – Red Horse (didn't hear)20 Liberteer – Better To Die On Your Feet Than Live On Your Knees (weird isn't the same thing as good)19 High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis (sure, OK - not as good as the last one)18 Napalm Death – Utiltarian (awesome; should have been top 5)17 Torche – Harmonicraft (this is a Foo Fighters album and has no business in a metal poll)16 Grave – Endless Procession Of Souls (yay, love Grave)15 Satan’s Wrath – Galloping Blasphemy (didn't hear)14 Testament – Dark Roots Of Earth (didn't hear - who did?)13 Cattle Decapitation – Monolith Of Inhumanity (didn't hear but they've always bored me)12 Blut Aus Nord – 777: Cosmosophy (didn't hear)11 Municipal Waste – The Fatal Feast (didn't hear)10 Pig Destroyer – Book Burner (OK but they've still never topped Terrifyer and never will)09 Paradise Lost – Tragic Idol (didn't hear)08 Royal Thunder – CVI (pfft)07 Enslaved – Riitiir (yawn)06 Neurosis – Honor Found In Decay (yawn)05 Pallbearer – Sorrow and Extinction (yawn)04 Witchcraft – Legend (their weakest album - wtf?)03 Evoken – Altra Mors (who?)02 Baroness – Yellow & Green (awesome record, should have been #1)01 Converge – All We Love We Leave Behind (a very good Converge album, consequently deserving of #10 at best)
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
Samothrace are worth hearing. Given how well Baroness and Torche did, I wonder if the staff heard and considered other non-extreme metal along the lines of Wo Fat and At Devil Dirt. I like the High On Fire, but I rate Castle, Witch Mountain, Owl, Venomous Maximus, The Sword, Alunah, Black Moth, Kadavar and Heat over it.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
i'm always surprised by how early these start coming out, kind of a bummer tbh
― flopson, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
Need to get them out of the way before the Big One.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah feels p shitty
― f (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
how many lists are gonna have farrah abraham on it
― teledyldonix, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't wind up putting her on my year-end list for The Wire, but felt bad about the oversight.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
ILM list will.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
Flopson OTM
I only really care about The Wire list because I get clued into stuff I might wanna investigate that I wasn't already aware of
All other lists - including those I vote as part of - are more a "what do other ppl care about" exercise that's only occasionally startling
I fuck with the Fiona, which is the only album on my list that has any hope of going near #1
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
Oh my god, Fiona is gonna make The Wire list isn't she. The geezers who normally would vote for Robert Wyatt or Scott Walker are gonna vote for her aren't they. I wonder if the same will happen if Taylor Swift makes an art rock album a decade from now?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Swift recorded one already...?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
I usually listen to at least 600-800 new releases a year, yet all the year-end lists together still prompt me to check out at least another hundred albums I missed, and I usually find at least a dozen or so I like enough to make my top 100. So when anyone says none of the lists are useful, it sounds kind of unnecessarily . . . smug might be too harsh. Overconfident that you've heard everything that you'd like?
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
The geezers who normally would vote for Robert Wyatt or Scott Walker are gonna vote for Scott Walker imo.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
i think the word is 'knowing', fastnbulbous. or 'complacent'.
― j., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
fiona apple won't make the wire list
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
The only album I didn't hear on the Decibel list was Horrendous. I'm shocked Dawnbringer, Graveyard, and Christian Mistress didn't make it. As much as I like Witchcraft, it shouldn't be that high and is nowhere near the best album of its kind in 2012. Also, Profound Lore really got the cold shoulder for some reason...the label had an outstanding year in my opinion.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Profound Lore really got the cold shoulder for some reason...the label had an outstanding year in my opinion.
I'm avoiding scrolling over the list, but this really does seem like a big oversight. Profound Lore really had a fantastic year. Just scrolling through their 2012 releases and I'm seeing tons of fantastic stuff - Pallbearer, Bosse-de-Nage, Indesinence, Yakuza, Dysrhythmia, Witch Mountain, Evoken, Aldebaran...
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
that's two in decibel's top ten...?
― j., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Well, like I said, I'm avoiding spoilers on that list, so I was just going on what Adrien said.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
"Usefulness" is a relative concept. Xpost
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Like, for instance, I'm not a fan of metal really. I don't have anything against it but. So the Decibel list isn't significant for me, though I'm not dismissing it... Does that make sense? I understand why it matters to other people.
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
xp I'm curious, what besides Graveyard do you consider of Witchcraft's kind that's better? Or do we have to wait for your list? ;)
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
The Fly:
40 - Allah-Las: Allah-Las39 - Mystery Jets: Radlands38 - Best Coast: The Only Place37 - The Invisible: Rispah36 - Liars: WIXIW35 - Howler: America Give Up34 - David Byrne & St. Vincent: Love This Giant33 - Animal Collective: Centipede Hz32 - Beach House: Bloom31 - Here We Go Magic: A Different Ship30 - Graham Coxon: A+E29 - Poliça: Give You The Ghost28 - TOY: TOY27 - Chairlift: Something26 - Bat For Lashes: The Haunted Man25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber24 - Daughn Gibson: All Hell23 - Twin Shadow: Confess22 - Dirty Projectors: Swing Lo Magellan21 - The Cribs: In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull20 - King Tuff: King Tuff19 - Diiv: Oshin18 - Pond: Beard Wives Denim17 - The xx: Coexist16 - The Vaccines: The Vaccines Come Of Age15 - Purity Ring: Shrines14 - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: Mature Themes13 - Grizzly Bear: Shields12 - Alt-J: An Awesome Wave11 - Lana del Rey: Born To Die10 - Tame Impala: Lonerism9 - The Maccabees: Given To The Wild8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind7 - Field Music: Plumb6 - Django Django: Django Django5 - Jessie Ware: Devotion4 - Cat Power: Sun3 - Frank Ocean: Channel Orange2 - Grimes: Visions1 - Sharon Van Etten: Tramp
― Bee OK, Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
that's an entire list of bands i didn't know released albums in 2012
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think it'll make my list but I finally got around to listening to that Jessie Ware record and its quite good.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
ppl actually like that Grimes album, huh?
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
did you think all the people in the ilm thread were pretending?
― j., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:25 (eleven years ago) link
which thread is that
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm glad to see Grimes showing up on these lists, but disapointed that iamamiwhoami's Kin isn't and probably won't, although it's just as good.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
which one?
the thread with 'grimes' in the title that has been full of chatter all year long that you can search for
― j., Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:31 (eleven years ago) link
I cannot tell the Grimes and Purity Ring records apart. Grimes is the slightly more gibberishy one, I think.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:47 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard two of those.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link
oh cool is this the thread where we brag about how much music we didn't listen to
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 November 2012 05:57 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to a lot of music.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
Likewise, including the two I mentioned above. I just didn't like them.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:06 (eleven years ago) link
40 - Allah-Las: Allah-Las (who?)39 - Mystery Jets: Radlands (what is this? sounds dumb)38 - Best Coast: The Only Place (never heard of this)37 - The Invisible: Rispah (REALLY Invisible if you ask me)36 - Liars: WIXIW (they put out an album this year? LOL)35 - Howler: America Give Up (Who-ler is more like it because i dont know WHO they are)34 - David Byrne & St. Vincent: Love This Giant (Ok wau D Byrne is still alive? what?!)33 - Animal Collective: Centipede Hz (Didnt these guys just put out an album?!)32 - Beach House: Bloom (Am I thinking of Beach Fossils? WHAT?)31 - Here We Go Magic: A Different Ship (Great DISAPPEARING ACT because i have never heard of you)30 - Graham Coxon: A+E (Huh+What?)29 - Poliça: Give You The Ghost (Is this Stings band idk)28 - TOY: TOY (never heard)27 - Chairlift: Something (more like nothing because you are nothing to me wanted yall 2 know)26 - Bat For Lashes: The Haunted Man (Saw the pube on the cover and passed)25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber (Accidentally deleted from iTunes)24 - Daughn Gibson: All Hell (Not on Spotify so #NEAUX1CURRRRR)23 - Twin Shadow: Confess (is this rap i dont listen to rap)22 - Dirty Projectors: Swing Lo Magellan (lost CD before I could play it fuck)21 - The Cribs: In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull (British band, refuse to play on principle)20 - King Tuff: King Tuff (King Nothing is more like it who are these bands is the The Wire's list hahah)19 - Diiv: Oshin (megaupload down can any1 get this for me help)18 - Pond: Beard Wives Denim (sounds dumb)17 - The xx: Coexist (heard one of their songs in a commercial two years ago PASS)16 - The Vaccines: The Vaccines Come Of Age (THIS IS STILL A BAND HOW IS THIS A THING IS THIS A THING)15 - Purity Ring: Shrines (Thought I heard this but it was "Grimes")14 - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti: Mature Themes (This came out in 2008 I thought. Wait)13 - Grizzly Bear: Shields (My file was corrupted idk)12 - Alt-J: An Awesome Wave (?????)11 - Lana del Rey: Born To Die (People really like this huh? I had no idea. People?)10 - Tame Impala: Lonerism (Wow. Tame Impala is still around huh. Wow.)9 - The Maccabees: Given To The Wild (\O_o/)8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind (??????????? where do you people even find this music)7 - Field Music: Plumb (wut)6 - Django Django: Django Django (how do i even google this HELLO)5 - Jessie Ware: Devotion (i dont like metal it's stupid)4 - Cat Power: Sun (Did we even have a thread on this?)3 - Frank Ocean: Channel Orange (dumb pop R&B crap, next)2 - Grimes: Visions (thought i heard this but it was Sky Ferrari)1 - Sharon Van Etten: Tramp (never heard of this)
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
just occurred to me that 2/3rds of GAPDYX dropped albums this year
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:53 (eleven years ago) link
Listened to Grimes when it came out. Listening again now. It's still a mess.
If we're comparing the two - someone mentioned it up there - the Purity Ring is much better.
― alpine static, Thursday, 22 November 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link
several of these bands, like "toy" and "goat", i don't even believe in their existence
25 - Melody's Echo Chamber: Melody's Echo Chamber (Accidentally deleted from iTunes)
i listened to this one the other day! it sounded like it might potentially be up my street and i wanted to show willing. it was extremely boring.
8 - Kindness: World You Need A Change Of Mind (??????????? where do you people even find this music)
i wish i lived in a world where kindness prompted extreme bafflement (his music is terrrrrrrrible)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
cat power is kinda confusing cuz i like her and i thought that album was a mess, and i thought that was the consensus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link
Spiders, Horisont, and Troubled Horse.
― A. Begrand, Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
seconded on Spiders which is gonna be top-10-of-everything-in-2012 for me. they probably need a better name. and fonts that aren't free to download
http://www.svartrecords.com/shoppe/1464-1595-large/spiders-flash-point-lp.jpg
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 November 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
band line-up of guitar, bass, drums, harley & the hairiest looking choirboys i have ever
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
Can we all make a pact not to be a bunch of old wankers about the EOY lists this year?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
Last year felt so solidly classic to me, as if the big important albums were very prominently foregrounded in my mind, whereas 2012 seems a lot more disparate - little discoveries and delights from all over the place; Young Smoke, Goat, Swans, and probably Scott Walker will place but there's no year-defining album a la 'Let England Shake' or 'Diamond Mine' this year (for me at least).
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
What does GAPDYX stand for? I know who it signifies, just not what it spells.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link
Grizzly, Animal, Phoenix, Dirty, Yeahs + ?
the XX
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
Thought it must be that, but they seem strange bedfellows to the others, to me (as do Phoenix, but that may just be the fact that they & The xx aren#t Brooklynites).
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:28 (eleven years ago) link
That Poliça album is very likeable unless you are a grouch. Some of the Gayngs guys are involved but it's a whole lot tighter and denser and funkier than them, plus the vocals are great.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
massive grouchiness about polica over here
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
Lol whiney
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
End of year list predictions: Lex will complain that the Uncut list doesn't contain any R&B and just one token hip hop album.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
Poliça sounds interesting - I liked the Gayngs album on the whole.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
Sicko, it was more the ubiquity of those five/six albums in the 2009 EOY polls more than any narrative or generic strand. They dominated that year, but sentiment among Ilxors was that these were not particularly new! fresh! exciting! albums on the whole and signalled a trend towards MOR-values for the year.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link
xp It's not going to blow your mind or anything, but it's solid enough. Dark Star is probably the best song on it: http://youtu.be/h6WgWCIkH9U
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 22 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
I like that Sharon Van Etten album, but it's funny to me to see it as anyone's top pick. Otoh, it may actually be the best thing on that particular list.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:35 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh it's fucking terrible but of course people like it
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
I definitely support them all as primo candidates. Troubled Horse place highest for me, but still not quite surpassing Graveyard & Witchcraft.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 23 November 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
As much as I like the Goat album, for some reason it bugs me that so many seem to rate their album but aren't at all interested in the other Swedish stuff, I feel like just cuz they toss in some Afro rhythms.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 23 November 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
I tried the Troubled Horse album the other day - more late '60s garage-rock than I prefer. Generally speaking, the more shamelessly a Swedish retro band is ripping off the first November album, the better I like them.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
Did you hear Captain Crimson?
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 23 November 2012 04:38 (eleven years ago) link
As much as I like the Goat album, for some reason it bugs me that so many seem to rate their album but aren't at all interested in the other Swedish stuff
And the same goes for metal fans who listen to Witchcraft, Goat should be up their alley too. That's why I raved about it on MSN's metal blog in August, even though it's not really a metal album per se. After much hemming and hawing, I left it off my metal list...like Swans I'll give it a special mention instead.
― A. Begrand, Friday, 23 November 2012 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really get this at all tbh, I have no problem w/ anyone repping the Goat album but there's like one hard rock song on it and the rest of it bears no meaningful resemblance to the other "Swedish stuff"
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 November 2012 08:43 (eleven years ago) link
wow! people actually like purity ring more than grimes? purity ring is really boring to me. like a mushy blend of chillwave, witch house, and uk bass. to me it works as background noise and little else. the grimes album, though, has identity! "vision" if you will, yuk yuk. i think it at least deserves points for being legitimately polarizing.
what was the big problem with the cat power album? i liked it.
― fennel cartwright, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
Fucking chillwave. I'm so fucking sick of this ongoing wishy washy "our vocals are shit so let's cover them up by smothering them in cheap reverb effects and just pretend we're really really into Heaven or Las Vegas" aesthetic. It was alright for a little bit, but jesus can it stop now?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link
DEATH TO REVERBCORE
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
Sort of feel this has been a weak year even by the low standards of the sort of indie that habitually fills these polls but there's not really anything filling the void other than weaker versions of similar stuff.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
weak year for music in general or?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
No, a weak year for that strain of indie.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
I know there's a school of thought that says that no year is worse than any other, and there's always good stuff to be found, but I'm sure I found more killer albums last year.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
there were definitely fewer albums this year that provided that social rush of loads of people rallying round something to praise it - i think in my top 30 or so, miguel is the only one that kinda qualifies. maybe jessie ware but even that has a "will this do" air to it. even my favourite indie-leaning albums seemed to only get people who were already fans talking - school of seven bells, neneh cherry, fiona apple, even leonard cohen.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
which isn't to say that the music i did love wasn't as fantastic as it always is, it's just that too few bothered with my favourites because they didn't have massive ~news pegs~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
i think in my top 30 or so, miguel is the only one that kinda qualifies
I'm assuming Kendrick Lamar misses out on your top 30 then?
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
oh i forgot about that, it's between 20-30 at the moment
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:19 (eleven years ago) link
xposts it's just so prevalent, as though things haven't moved on since halfway through the last decade - distant, indistinct vocals; gloopy "textures"; general feyness; superficial keening and yearning and an overall lack of presence. I just don't feel inspired in any way by this stuff - and yet I guess I class myself as an alternative/indie fan deep down, but when I hear Grizzly Bear or whoever, I can barely make it through a song without getting frustrated. And yet when Animal Collective decided to lay off the reverb for once, they released a shit album that doesn't even compare to their legions of soundalikes. So it's lose/lose I guess.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
listening to animal collective at any time is def lose/lose
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
It certainly feels like there's less of a unilateral pushing of certain releases. The only thing I can think of really is Bish Bosch (which isn't out yet) and to a lesser extent The Seer, but that's only from my own, Quietus-influenced perspective. That said there've been some classic moments (great year for footwork's upward rise for example), and I really like the current flavour of leftfield pioneers from this and last year - Julia Holter, Neneh Cherry & The Thing, Julianna Barwick, Swans, Scott, Colin Stetson, ummm, can't think of too many off the top of my head from this year but it's all been great and very inspiring.
I've heard dance fans bemoan the state of the genre this year; that there doesn't seem to be a thing to rally around - loads of individual micro-scenes rather than the usual cause celebre. I don't necessarily think this is a bad thing though. Dance music has come to operate so much around "now everyone listens to electro" "now everyone listens to minimal" "now it's dubstep" that maybe this breaking of generic barriers is sort of positive? I dunno.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno in dance music this year the big thing has definitely been straight-up house music. The bobbins thread is a lot more slamming than in previous years, Hot Creations and Huxley and Maya Jane Coles are bleeding over into the garage interzone, throw jackin' in there as well and there's a definite 'story' there but not exactly a convenient rallying point.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
there were several pretty great dance albums in 2012. andy stott, michael mayer, voices from the lake, lindstrøm, vatican shadow, smallpeople, blondes. dunno why people didn't rally round them, they certainly should have.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
That Blondes album got a fair bit of buzz, in fairness. Obviously the Talabot one as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah i'm guessing talabot will prob be top 20 at least on the ilm poll
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
claro intellecto and silent servant albums were are both terrific, as are the collected untold eps from this year. have no idea whether any of these were a thing or not.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
I think the main complaint was more that there was no "ah, hot new genre, everybody go apeshit crazy!" than a lack of decent releases. It seems to be more made up of individual artists and labels carving out their own particular niche. As I say, I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing.
I think the Talabot album is one of my favourite records of the year.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
It's around this point in a decade that things tend to take a bit of a sea-change anyway. I think about the disparity and diversity of the pop charts in 1982, how new wave was turning into new pop, reggae into dancehall, disco into electro blahblah - it probably felt like a bit of a mishmash at the time, but in retrospect it was actually the true beginnings of what would come to define the rest of the decade. Similar sentiments with the mid-early 90s, 70s and 60s. To me it always feels like the first couple of years of a decade are a kind of "putting to bed" of the last decade before really kicking things off. But maybe not.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
It's around this point in a decade that things tend to take a bit of a sea-change anyway
what
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
that's not how...time works
I dunno about on you guys' side, but tarp (lol) was def the big sound in dance music this year over here. Does seem like a better year for house than the past few though, yeah.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
i think it does. generational shifts, economic patterns, the overall psychology that is wrapped up in "a new decade, time for something new" - i think it affects everything from the artistic instinct, consumer trends and label management decisions - it will affect the music that reaches us.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
what's tarp, rev?
oh TRAP!
haha, i know nothing about trap. I'd like to though. I'm more interested in tarp though now you've said it.
oh yeah, lex - i listened to Armour On on the train today; really enjoyed it. must give it another listen.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HzyUHxmkg0
^Total anthem. I have issues with the name "trap" and the lack of feminine pressure in the genre, but some of it's fun to dance to. There's a lot of really lazy stuff out there tho. I mostly try to avoid djs who lean too heavy on it, esp as such parties tend to attract too many bros.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link
still can't believe a bunch of dance geeks co-opted "trap" and are pretending it means something other than dope boy rap
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
and are being taken seriously by anyone, it's ludicrous
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
Oh yeah, I've heard that Hudson Mohawke track - it's cool, but I had no idea that's what trap was supposed to be. assumed it was dope boy rap.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
would like to hear a footwork/trap crossover actually..
But it's basically almost exactly the same production style being reappropriated. But without rappers over the top I find it difficult to find much to latch on to.
(xpost - to Some Dude)
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately, no one's come up with a better word for this stuff. But my point is it's all over the place in clubs right now. xps
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
white electronic guys appropriating black electronic styles, i guess it's inevitable in all cases. similarly, it's hard to differentiate between the kind of music made by Rashad and that by Machinedrum even though there's a clear stylistic difference.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
*differentiate in generic terms, that is.
the thing is it doesn't actually sound noticeably different to the stuff that was played in those clubs before people started using the word "trap"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
well on the one hand it's good to acknowledge what they're biting but the way those people have basically taken ownership of the word to describe what they've been doing in the last year as opposed to Shawty Redd or something, it's all very "you didn't build that!" -- plus when you take into account the origins of the term it's kinda fucked up for some european dude to make an aggressive drum loop and go "look i've made a 'crack house' song lol!"
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
xpost what, like Night Slugs stuff, or?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, those DJs and producers have been using southern hip-hop drums and dropping southern hip-hop tracks for years and years, i remember hudson mohawke playing a fabric set about half a decade ago that was full of this
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
also i don't know who the people actually using the genre name "trap" are, the only time i see it is when i see people mocking it (not that this isn't annoying in itself, the way they go on about it)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
I suppose the reason I'm suspicious of it a bit is that I don't see it as having much connection to the rest of British dance music bar a bit of dubstep crossover. Also I find it difficult to imagine Hudson Mohawke doing anything without an annoying smirk on his face.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah, but the point is (as far as i understand it) it's blown up beyond just one or two nerds playing around with a sound in their bedrooms and assimilated itself into an actual scene recognised by the dance/party mainstream beyond its initial intended audience.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, November 23, 2012 4:32 AM Bookmark
Yeah, obviously. I kind of feel that the dumb name (which actually a lot of people making music in the style eschew for the same reasons) has become a stick to beat the music with, which isn't entirely fair, although by all means do shit on goddamn fucking UZ or whoever.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, November 23, 2012 4:31 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
People were playing stuff that sounded like this at dance nights a couple years ago? I call bullshit. The only thing I can think of is "Wut", which I kind of look at as inadvertently kicking this whole thing off.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah, hudson mohawke's name is very offputting. but the current state of UK bass music is pretty all-encompassing right now. I really like it - dubstep basslines, trappy-drums, housey melodies, female vocal samples - taking the Night Slugs sound and running with it in various directions I guess - fewer prescribed rules than how things were with dubstep.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
Aquacrunk - The sound of urban glasgow/please explain this to me
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
hudmo is not exactly a new face
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
xp yes
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
Hudmo's old stuff sounds completely different iirc?
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
not so much that this constitutes a radical new direction
"fuse" was soooooooo amazing he will never ever top it ;_;
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol what the fuck is aquacrunk
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
As genre names go it managed to catch on even less then 'wonky'.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
all I remember about the HudMo solo stuff I checked out was it was really garish and bad. I pretty much only checked for TNGHT cause I like Lunice.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
Tom Hull and co's Turkey Shoot: they aim at Miguel, Kendrick Lamar, Lambchop, Grimes, etc.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, early HudMo just sounded like crap IDM tracks with Missy samples lazily pasted all over them; as if mashup culture had never died.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
trap music biting the southern rap scene is a common misconception, all the producers are actually irish football ultras
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
The one you've all been waiting for:
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-albums-of-2012-so-far/
1. Van Halen - A Different Kind of Truth2. Rush - Clockwork Angels3. ZZ Top - La Futura4. Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball5. Neil Young - Psychedelic Pill6. Aerosmith - Music From Another Dimension7. Heart - Fanatic8. Bob Dylan - Tempest9. Kiss - Monster10. Joe Walsh - Analog Man
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
I think the difference between now and 2008 or whatever, lex, is that it's now congealed into a genre with its own set of rules rather than just a few people shooting off in the dark. It reached its "wot do you call it?" moment (and has suffered greatly for it). Obviously, one side affect of this is that it allows for the laziness I mentioned earlier.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
side effect, even
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol i have listened to 50% of the Ultimate Classic Rock list -- ZZ Top the only one that'll be in my year end list
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Combined age of that top ten is like 5,000 or something. It's a fine tribute to medical science as much as anything else.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
There's something perennially beautiful about the Classic Rock list's refusal to both to yield to fashion and to chase a kind of old-timer credibility and plump for Dylan or someone.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
well, there are no new "classic rock" bands, and if there were they'd be even worse than the new records those ancients are still making
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard 6 off that Classic Rock list. Would rank what I've heard ZZ Top > Rush > Heart > Bob Dylan > Van Halen >>>>>>> Neil Young
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
it's Classic Rock magazine, the whole point is that it doesn't yield to fashion.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
"making a halfway listenable album past the age of 55" is a genuine noteworthy accomplishment imo
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
Oh of course, but even so their resolve not to sneak in a Jack White or Alamaba Shakes or whoever is admirable.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
My admiration has abated somewhat upon reading the gallery sidebar 'HOT ROCK DAUGHTERS - the baby girls of your rock gods are no longer children'.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-10-leg-songs/
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Lex's favourite, Uncut.
Oh fuck, it's 75. I'm not typing all that out. Dylan controversially beaten to top spot by Cohen.
Token modern hip-hop R&B: Frank Ocean, 5Happily welcomed returning prodigal son: Bill Fay, 6Obligatory acknowledgement of Lawrence: Go-Kate Mozart, 12
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
"making a halfway listenable album past the age of 55" is a genuine noteworthy accomplishment imo― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:15 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:15 (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this might be for another thread, but why is this so often the case? I'm loving that in recent years, albums by (I'm gonna say their names again, sorry) Swans, Scott Walker, Tom Waits and a few others have proven to be exceptions to the rule, but for every one of these there are at least three hoary old rockers or idea-starved popstars churning out uninspiring bilge every year.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
Uncut top ten:
1. Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas 2. Bob Dylan - Tempest 3. Jack White - Blunderbuss 4. Dr John - Locked Down 5. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange 6. Bill Fay - Life Is People 7. Ty Segall & White Fence - Hair 8. Bear Shields - Grizzly 9. Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Psychedelic Pill 10. Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
With this lascivious little classic off just their second album, 1974’s ‘Get Your Wings,’ Aerosmith figuratively earned their ‘ready for prime time’ diplomas, graduating from semi-glam boys (and New York Dolls doppelgangers) to seasoned hard rock men about town. ‘Lord of the Thighs’ comes swaggering into view on Joey Kramer’s iconic drum beat before Steven Tyler starts slobbering his come-hither lyrics all over the object of his affection; aided and abetted all the way by Joe Perry and Brad Whitford’s slippery guitar licks and solos, which clearly can’t keep their hands to themselves.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
this might be for another thread, but why is this so often the case
Inspiration and strong work ethics collide if you're a rock and roller over 50.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
you can hear the trouser rubbing from here.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that ZZ Top is kind of great. I was kind of excited about the Van Halen at the time but have no desire to listen to it anymore. I'm a Rush but it leaves me cold just like everything they've done since 1985. Have not been motivated to hear Young, Aerosmith, Heart, Dylan, Kiss.
Another heavy rock album along the lines of the 'Swedish stuff' is Golden Void. Earthless’ Isaiah Mitchell moves to SF, gets married and writes some REALLY great songs.
xp Some of the malaise I'm sensing seems to be along the lines of what Simon Reynolds wrote about in last year's book Retromania in which he essentially bemoans the end of 'hot new genres.' I hope some might consider my response (here) and give themselves permission to just enjoy what they enjoy without worrying about how 'important' or groundbreaking its supposed to be.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
8. Bear Shields - Grizzly
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
aw man, i really want to hear a south london grime artist called Bear Shields now
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
Bear Grills
― Neil S, Friday, 23 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Mojo
1 Jack White2 Frank Ocean3 Bill Fay4 Leonard Cohen5 Dexys6 Black Keys7 Django Djangp8 Dr John9 Julia Holter10 Dyland11 Scott Walker12 Tame Impala13 XX14 Hot Chip15 Cat Power16 Bobby Womack17 Mark Lanegan Band18 Orbital19 Advance Base20 Lee Fields & The Expressions
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
man, that frank ocean really is gonna walk it isn't it? i've had it on my iphone for months now and haven't got round to hearing a single thing off it yet.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
So glad to see Bill Fay doing so well in a few of these lists. Not just cos it's a good album but I mean really glad for Bill, the person.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Other Mojo polls
Urban
1 Spoek Mathambo2 Main Attraktionz3 Frank Ocean4 Homeboy Sandman5 JJ DOOM
Electronica
1 Actress2 Christian Loffler3 Laurel Halo4 Jon Talabot5 Dean Black & Inga Copeland
Jazz1 Gareth Lockrane's Grooveyard2 Tomasso Starace3 John Turville Trio4 Phronesis5 Simcock Garland
Undeground1 Julia Holter2 Mount Eerie3 Shackleton4 Oren Ambarchi5 Morten Feldman
Reissues1 Can2 the Beat3 The Vlvet Underground & Nico4 Sex Pistols5 Darondo
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Spoek Mathambo eh? nice one.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
Was just going to say; that album was nowhere as good as everyone wanted it to be.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
fastnbulb: The exciting thing about "hot new genres" is that they don't sound like music you've heard before! I mean I hate to get all EPCOT WORLD OF THE FUTURE abt it, but yeah those Witchcraft and Grand Magus albums are great, but that Goat album is like beamed from an alternate reality
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Have heard exactly zero of these (my #1 jazz album is the Vijay Iyer one, #2 probably the Endresen/Westerhaus); anything worth checking out?
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Also I think that Van Halen album is prolly the classic rock album of the year (but I didnt hear ZZ yet)
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
did actual jazz heads rate the neneh cherry & the thing album?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
I think I've actually heard one of the songs off that Goat album (it was called Goatman I think) and yeah it was terrific.
― Matt DC, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
Goatman, and yeah that track is great.
― pandemic, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Unless it was Goathead which is also great ;)
― pandemic, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
this one did - free jazz and vocals is a p difficult thing to pull off, but it works so well here. great alb.
also, aside from one or two dodgy production choices and a certain lyrical... openness... that you just have to accept, the Bill Fay album IS as good as people say/were hoping. Parts of it are very beautiful, imho.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
No sign in the old-man lists of my favourite old-man album this year, then: Loudon Wainwright III - Older Than My Old Man Now.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just mentioned that in this thread: POX new albums from the 21st century by old fossils
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Neneh Cherry + Thing is obv great; in my head I wasn't counting it as a jazz album but there's no real reason not to.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Unsurprisingly there's no mention of it in the Jazzwise magazine list:
http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/news-mainmenu-139/69-2012/12580-jazz-breaking-news-courtney-pine-wins-jazzwise-album-of-the-year
TOP 20 NEW RELEASES 20121 Courtney PIne House Of Legends Destin-E2 EST 301 ACT3 John Surman Saltash Bells ECM4 Christine Tobin Sailing To Byzantium Trail Belle Records5 = John McLaughlin and 4th Dimension Now Here This Abstract Logix5 = Gregory Porter Be Good Motéma7 = Jeremy Pelt Soul Highnote7 = Robert Glasper Black Radio Blue Note9 = Branford Marsalis Four MFs Playin’ Tunes Marsalis Music9 = Django Bates Belovèd Confirmation Lost Marble11 Béla Fleck/Marcus Roberts Trio Across The Imaginary Divide Rounder12 Christian Scott Christian aTunde Adjuah Concord13 Esperanza Spalding Radio Music Society Decca14 Phronesis Walking Dark Edition15 Kurt Elling 1619 Broadway: The Brill Building Project Decca16 = Ahmad Jamal Blue Moon Jazz Village16 = Roller Trio Roller Trio F-ire18 = Simcock/Garland/Sirkis Lighthouse ACT18 = Colin Towns’ Blue Touch Paper Stand Well Back Provocateur18 = Billy Hart All Of Our Reasons ECM
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
7 = Robert Glasper Black Radio Blue Note
this is good though! i'd forgotten about it, gonna revisit
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
9 = Branford Marsalis Four MFs Playin’ Tunes Marsalis Music
awesome title
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's really good jazz/noise/soul all at once. and fits in with this recent trend of avant/leftfield pop/rock albums that make good use of brass - Love This Giant, Black Vomit, New History Warfare, Alice by Sunn O))) etc...
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
that was about Neneh Cherry btw
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Jazz-wise, I agree with Glasper, Spalding and Roller Trio (and Neneh Cherry). Would also add:Troyka - MoxxyGet The Blessing - OC DCBrad Mehldau Trio - OdeNeil Cowley Trio - The Face of Mount MolehillPortico Quartet - Portico QuartetLund Quartet - Lund Quartet
― mike t-diva, Friday, 23 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
i wish i knew stuff about jazz. maybe i'll give it a go in 2013.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'm saving it for when i'm too old to go raving
which on the evidence of last weekend is not yet
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
if only i had the opportunity to go raving more.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
Piccadilly Records
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/feature.php?feature=708
― groovypanda, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Smoke Faeries I once saw play as an acoustic duo and it was amazing. Then they got a band together and went really boring.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Is TOY any good?
I didn't like the Neneh Cherry & The Thing album very much at all, but I suspect that most people who did like Neneh Cherry way more than they like The Thing. Which is weird all by itself - I mean, she was an 80s one-hit wonder. Why does she have the cult following she does?
Here are the jazz albums that will be on the eventual BurningAmbulance.com Top 50 of 2012 (which is a single blended-genre list):
JD Allen Trio, The Matador and the BullJeremy Pelt Quintet, SoulReturn To Forever, The Mothership ReturnsCharles Gayle Trio, StreetsBill McHenry, La Peur du VideMatthew Shipp Trio, Elastic AspectsFontanelle, Vitamin FWadada Leo Smith, Ten Freedom SummersBranford Marsalis Quartet, Four MFs Playin' TunesDarius Jones Quartet, Book of Mae'bul (Another Kind of Sunrise)Steve Lehman Trio, Dialectic FlourescentBlack Music Disaster, s/tRalph Bowen, Total EclipseNicolas Masson, DeparturesThe Thing with Barry Guy, Metal!Full Blast & Friends, Sketches & Ballads
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
she carried on having hits here throughout the '90s
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
xxp TOY are pretty good IMO, krauty psychy indie rock basically, so make of that what you will. Think The Horrors previous last album but one.
― Neil S, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Uh oh...
And yeah, I love Buffalo Stance, but she's had much more than one hit, not to mention her role in Rip Rig and Panic. And I like this album equally for the Thing as for Neneh. The attraction is:
a: a pop/soul singer working in an interesting and unfamiliar mediumb: covers of new-wave/industrial/post-punk songsc: connection to her father's workd: it sounds fucking excellent.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
I like that White Manna album that's at #3 in the Piccadilly list a whole lot. Kinda sounds like it could have been made at any point in the last 30 years, but all the same, it's a really satisfying blast of Stooged-up psych rock.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
tbh there are so many pegs to the neneh cherry & the thing album that i'm surprised it's not showing up a lot more than it is
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for Orbital in the Mojo poll but didn't expect to see them in the Top 20. Dad-rave ftw.
Lists so far confirm that it's been a funny old year. Lots of albums that aren't quite as good as you want them to be. I mean, I love Leonard Cohen, I have every album and I rate the new one but AOTY? Really?
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
I have more Thing albums than Neneh Cherry albums fwiw.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Is it alright to ask what current discussers' likely AOTYs might be ITT?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
you prob know mine already, but my top six are pretty much set in stone by now - dawn richard / taylor swift / angel haze / farrah abraham / nicki minaj / miguel
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
the 誤訳侮辱 comments about Nenah/Thing are wrong on every possible level
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, even the label servicing it is aiming at writers who are down with Sunburned Hand of the Man and Nissenmondai and shit
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
My album of the year is Pinkish Black's debut.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 November 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
my album of the year is deeeeeeeeeeez nuuuuuuuts
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Rev OTM! J/k
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
My album of the year is either by Penny Royale or Sontag Shogun.
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
after my testicles, Frank Ocean
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
is that a Lil Wayne line?
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
the 誤訳侮辱 comments about Nenah/Thing are wrong on every possible level...i mean, even the label servicing it is aiming at writers who are down with Sunburned Hand of the Man and Nissenmondai and shit
Oh, bullshit. It's being aimed at indie nerd boys who are all too predictably treating The Thing like Neneh Cherry's backing band. I mean, it's not that huge a leap since The Thing have covered PJ Harvey and Yeah Yeah Yeahs and White Stripes songs, and they play non-jazz venues and work with Steve Albini, all of which I have absolutely no problem with (I've agitated plenty of times for indie bands who swear they love jazz to take a jazz group on the road as an opener, for example), but if more than a half dozen of the writers fawning over the Cherry collab had even heard the group's first two albums (never mind the original Don Cherry, Joe McPhee, Frank Lowe, James Blood Ulmer etc. songs they were interpreting early on) I would be fucking shocked.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol xp
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
dude the current crop "indie nerd boys" discovered music with Siamese Dream, dude, no one gives a fuck about Neneh Cherry except old people. if contemporary "indie nerd boys" gave half a shit about nenah cherry then evryone wouldnt have treated MIA like she invented the fucking wheel
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i havent read a single piece of crit about the record, but p much everyone I know who stans for it is an old dork like me
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
also, i fawned over the record and have been lovingly reviewing The Thing's records for a hot minute now
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
an old dork like me
Ha ha, I think I'm ~10 years older than you.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's being aimed at indie nerd boys who are all too predictably treating The Thing like Neneh Cherry's backing band.
lol @ weirdo clique records getting big on the back neneh cherry - i person who i had never heard of before - and not the jazz band whos last records were done w/otomo yoshihide and jim o'rourke
― f (Lamp), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, November 23, 2012 12:16 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha Lamp read this post and raised his hand like "that's me!"
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
haha i stopped reading the thread after the comment i was responding to :/
... faced.
oh well its a p rad record fwiw, cool to hear that whiney was into it
― f (Lamp), Friday, 23 November 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Thing albums with Otomo Yoshihide and Jim O'Rourke don't get written up on Pitchfork or talked up on NPR.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
what kind of bogus life do you have to have led to have not heard of neneh cherry
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
i was raised in an igloo
― f (Lamp), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, no doy the NPR/Guardian/etc news peg is that "Ay, this person with multiple top 10 singles from the 80s (lol "one-hit wonder" fuck you)" is working with some spazz-jazz lunatics. But I would wager that a good majority of the people who actually enjoy/love/fuck with the record would/do listen with the Thing on the non-Cherry off-season
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Friday, November 23, 2012 1:04 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't...you get fresh with Lamp
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
manchild, will he ever win
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
i was just asking myself, who's is that igloo on the street?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Also, I'm willing to bet that the two albums Neneh made with trip hop band CiRCKUs or whatever the fuck they were called probably soundscanned as many copies as any Thing record in America
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
this person with multiple top 10 singles from the 80s (lol "one-hit wonder" fuck you)
Here in America, "Buffalo Stance" hit #3 and "Kisses On The Wind" hit #8. I've never heard the latter song. So fine, she's a two-hit wonder. (Her other two charting singles in the US, "Heart" and "Buddy X," hit #73 and #43 respectively. I don't think those should really count for much, do you?)
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
"buddy x" counts for EVERYTHING
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
ROMEOOOOOO
I remember seeing "Buddy X" all over MTV
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
You never had Seven Seconds? Weird, that song was everywhere over here
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utpvLjtPMlk
but even better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDnoZh37uWg
WHAT ABOUT YOUR WOMANBUDDY MY FRIEND
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
xpost I'm just saying this isnt like some Jane Child shit here
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
first thing anyone has said on here that makes me want to hear something:
"but that Goat album is like beamed from an alternate reality"
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
also, you're not gonna GOTCHA PALIN me on some FAITH NO MORE ONLY HAD ONE CHARTING SONGS ROFLMAO FAIL WHALE shit because, critically, real talk, Nenah set the stage for Massive Attack, Portishead, Tricky, et al, and everyone acknowledges that
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
wait what's the name of the goat album i'll look for it on the youtube
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
i really liked one post buffalo neneh album can't remember title
Homebrew?
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
u can stream the goat here!
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
MAN! that album is great. that's the title. MAN.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
"hornbeam" off man is such an underrated cut
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
might just listen to neneh all day
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
homebrew unfortunately had michael stipe on it meaning you could never play the album all the way through or own it cuz you might get stipe on your other CDs.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
MAN is just a great under-heard/rated/etc 90's album.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
But it did have "Move With Me" on it.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
michael stipe's sex rap is the most hilarious thing i've ever heard
homebrew is great apart from that, cosign love for "move with me"!!!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
Nenah set the stage for Massive Attack, Portishead, Tricky, et al, and everyone acknowledges that
Who is this "everyone"? I don't even remember people giving a fuck when she popped up on the Nearly God record. Maybe this is part of some elaborate mental game you're playing with yourself where you're pretending you're English, but if so I wish you'd leave me out of it.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe this is part of some elaborate mental game you're playing with yourself where you're pretending you're English, but if so I wish you'd leave me out of it.
board description!
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
accusing whiney of pretending he's english is graduate-level flamebaiting, v. nice
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 23 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
By "everyone" I mean "every pop critic who doesn't make a big show about bragging about ignoring things that aren't in their microscopic insular wheelhouse and BLIMEY GOVNER MILK IS 45 P AT THE TESCO?!"
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
If only there was some time in history when american critics stanned for trip-hop
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
that would be really cheap milk. even for green mad cow milk that would be cheap.
http://www.thegrocer.co.uk/pictures/620xAny/3/9/6/16396_tesco-semi-skimmed-milk.gif
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
make a big show about bragging about ignoring things that aren't in their microscopic insular wheelhouse
wait how does this not describe 90% of your posts on ilx
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Uh because I post in electronic and metal and world and pop and regional thug threads and generally have eclectic tastes?
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Like I'm literally the dude going "you should know who neneh cherry AND the thing are" right now, but keep spending your thanksgiving weekend trolling me
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
asking one question isn't trolling, swinging into 500 threads screaming "everyone who likes this is a brony" is trolling
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
lol unperson kind of has a tired and offensive (much more so than wgw's) schtick too, brah brah
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
oh i know, whiney just described it in a way that seemed a lil too close to his own
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think I knew that The Thing had worked with Otomo Yoshihide. Dude is awesome, will look that one up for definite.
― emil.y, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
eventually all ilx schtickers will get old and end up like alexinnyc and be all "beyonce must burn in a thousand fires in hades...zzzzz...gottagofeedthebabybrb..." and all of this will just be a dream.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
baby fell asleep on my chest while i was pestering whiney :)
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
sorry it's not the "faux concerned, avuncular meta-analysis of everyone's posting styles" schtick that great ILX poster some dude uses to wonderful effect 13 hours out of every 24-hour day
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
Oh of course your gonna post something cute before I zing you >:(
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
shhhh you'll wake the baby
― some dude, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Friday, 23 November 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
irl lol here
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 23 November 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
is this trap? a friend just sent it to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs-GiF6_g8c&feature=BFa&list=PLC5193D73BCFBA141
― flopson, Friday, 23 November 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
hm weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs-GiF6_g8c&feature=share&list=PLC5193D73BCFBA141
― flopson, Friday, 23 November 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
k nevermind ill stop posting that
http://www.mixcloud.com/orangewarrior/orangewarrior-booby-trap-mix/
havent the foggiest if this is the creme de la creme or anything this is a random trap mix i checked out (and was mildly entertained by) a while back
honestly i cant be bothered to feel scandalised by this stuff or its nomenclature, it's just regular clubby shit but with the added facility of comedy thugged-out oompa loompa music
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
baauer is one trap producer i'm pretty into, his singles have been fun and he did this official remix of no doubt's 'settle down' which is legit delightful and one of my fave things of the year
http://youtu.be/cywS7P2JZgw
― r|t|c, Friday, 23 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
i #actuallyliked rustie's essential mix, not sure if that counts as trap edm but it was dope imo
the worst part is the ppl who try to make it seem like this is the same genre as young jeezy or something b/c they bit some drum kit ideas from rap music
― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap_(music_genre)
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
haven't read anything past the first post yet, but thread already delivers for reminding me about TOY! I'd never heard of them until two nights ago, driving across st. louis, 88.1fm blasting this weird fucking song, catchy but everything just kind of off, melodic but not predictable. in a very nice way! i hit the Shazam button and it informs me that it's "Colour's Running Out" by Toy.
― Z S, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
not to be confused, apparently, with another band called Toy, who also had a self-titled album called Toy in 2006.
lol im cited & it contradicts the thesis of my piece u_u xxp
― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:04 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
do you really mean/have seen this or do you just mean toying around with the signifiers in a gross shallow way and then inferring the implication
― r|t|c, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
40 Gojira – L’Enfant Sauvage (should have been way higher, but I'm biased)
I liked The Way of All Flesh as much as anyone on this board, I think, but I was a bit disappointed in L'Enfant.
― o. nate, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I was confused and thought Toy was the Norwegian band but it sounds like it isn't.
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
See, I think L'Enfant is a huge improvement over Way, which I actually think is the weakest of their recent albums. For me it goes L'Enfant, From Mars to Sirius, The Link, Way, Terra Incognita.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
just generally, thread delivering like a mofo, thx ilx.
― Hunt3r, Saturday, 24 November 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Friday, November 23, 2012 6:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
every online piece on 'trap' has the same narrative of 'first it was invented by trap artists then lex luger then tnght and diplo and flosstradamus'
― D-40, Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
For me it goes L'Enfant, From Mars to Sirius, The Link, Way, Terra Incognita.
I don't like From Mars to Sirius much either, and that seems to be the one most Gojira fans rate, so maybe I'm more of a Way fan than a Gojira fan.
― o. nate, Saturday, 24 November 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
I remember and prolly still own the album by the Norwegian Toy, it was decent but sounded exactly like Plone to the point where it was creepy
― Joanna Motorhead (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
I <3 Chr15 W31ng4rt3n.
I like him well enough normally but when he starts speaking like Dick Van Dyke on plant food he owns the keys to my heart.
― Doran, Saturday, 24 November 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KBUBlNndeLU/T-Uuy91ZjAI/AAAAAAAACm8/lEUaVO84Qcs/s1600/welcome-home-giant-plastic-banner-1186-p.jpg
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
A pint of milk is actually 49p at Tesco so that was a pretty good guess.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 24 November 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
This Goat album is kind of fun actually.
you think?
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 November 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
I love Leonard Cohen, I have every album and I rate the new one but AOTY?
I ignored that album, then a friend had an extra ticket to see him last night. Dude is nearly 80 and he was dropping to his knees repeatedly and popping back up like he's in his 30s, and played over 3 and a half hours! Amazing. It was a bit too much for me all at once, but great to hear my favorites live, and his voice is in better shape than it was a few years ago. I guess the story is while he was living with Buddhist monks his business manager ripped off around 5 million from him leaving him broke, so he came out of retirement and hit the road, and started having a blast. There's some great songs on the new album, sounds more consistent to my ears than say, Various Positions and I'm Your Man. Still, I don't think it'll crack my top 100.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 24 November 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Friday, November 23, 2012 1:25 PM Bookmark
naw, that's post-dilla "beat scene" type stuff, which is an entirely different thing. there is a bit of crossover between the two scenes, but the track you posted isn't it.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Sunday, 25 November 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Friday, November 23, 2012 9:25 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/it_317e0c_887774.jpg
― thistle supporter (mcoll), Sunday, 25 November 2012 08:10 (eleven years ago) link
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Sunday, 25 November 2012 08:17 (eleven years ago) link
Ahaha
― tome crues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 25 November 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
swansscott walker
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 November 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
okay I am listening to "Colour's Running Out" by Toy and it's p awesome!
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 November 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link
First part of the Guardian's list (40-21) is here
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
Farrah at no. 32!
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
YASSSSS fiona, farrah, ANGEL HAZE, DAWN!!!!!
it's like i voted in it or something
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
(for real though i consider any list without dawn or angel haze to have rendered itself irrelevant because were you even listening to music in 2012)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
That's an interesting list so far...any idea how many people voted?
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
35 voters, I think.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
that's a pretty Lex-friendly list :-)
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
It's VERY Lex. I think he's been voting under multiple aliases.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
there isn't even much that i actively dislike (kmt @ gentrified r&b poliça though), but i guess i should be steeling myself for the upper echelons of the list
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Is Polica any kind of R&B? It never occurred to me - it's like How to Dress Well.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
The nature of Guardian music writers has changed a great deal in last few years. There's a large number of young R&B/hip-hop writers who have little or no interest in guitar music, alongside the older guitar music writers who have little or no interest in R&B and hip-hop. And then there are the few who have an interest in both.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
how to dress well gets slotted into this gentrified r&b "revival", sadly
he makes the worst music
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
That's what I mean - I hear it in HTDW but Polica isn't so blatantly playing with R&B tropes.
xp To me the list seems more polarised than ever. In the lower reaches there seem to be two entirely different constituencies alternating - did anyone vote for the Cribs AND Dawn Richard?
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still periodically surprised that anyone rates the Cribs, and that they've somehow avoided the fate of every other middle-ranking band from that era.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I agree: a very polarised list.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
you could ask who would possibly vote for both fiona apple and angel haze too though, but i did
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
You could argue it's balanced rather than polarized, or more balanced than these lists usually are, although that does depend on what fills up the top half of the list.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
Voter fraud. People be voting for rap because they get free stuff all the time.
― Tim F, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
The Cribs got some indie cred for the Albini production job I think.
― Neil S, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
Can't stand the Cribs, but they get credit for constantly banging on about how indie they are, I think. Albini's just one facet of that. People like them because they represent Old Guard Uncorrupted Indiers Doing It Their Way Without Hype.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
I actually really like that Cribs record. I also recently tried to listen to their debut and it was one of the worst pieces of shit I have ever set ears on, so I guess they improved.
Albini only produced one track.
― Simon H., Monday, 26 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
ah okay.
― Neil S, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying it's bad at all - I like the variety - but it is polarised. It's a bit like the mid-80s NME with the soulboys vs the Smiths fans, only much more cordial. There are virtually two rival consensuses which rarely overlap.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Thumbs up on the Guardian list to Orbital (well, just about), Beach House (most definitely), Dexys, Mala, Jack White, Bright Light Bright Light, Actress (HELL YES), Dawn Richard, Jam City (sort of).
― mike t-diva, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
Old Guard Uncorrupted Indiers Doing It Their Way Without Hype
Pretty sure everyone was saying this in 2007 even when it was patently untrue, and I don't hear anything in their music that strikes me as demonstrably superior to The Rakes or The Enemy or whoever else has justifiably fallen by the wayside. And those guys didn't manage to get Johnny Marr on a record.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
omg i forgot how much of a TREAT the guardian commenters were last year after we hit them with beyoncé and katy b
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
"Hey, Slater, what are you listening to?""Hey, preppie, you're behind the times. It's called 'trap' and it's the freshest thing since 'blip'."
― Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Monday, 26 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Didn't say it was true; just that it seems to be what people see the Cribs as representing (and how they present themselves).
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 26 November 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
So here's what the students at Oxford have been getting into:
http://oxfordstudent.com/2012/11/23/the-twenty-best-albums-of-2012/
(same old guff as all these other lists basically)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't heard/probably won't hear the Liars album, but I keep misreading its title as WKIW.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
I like the Leonard Cohen album a lot but come on young people sort yourselves out.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Don't know why I'm disappointed by that list really cos there are some solid records there but it is kind of sad that they're some of the same ones that this old man right here and probably millions like me are going to listen to on the bus on the way home.
XP what matt said
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
It truly is interesting that the only rap album to make the top twenty actually topped the list, but it isn’t that surprising.
truly
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
Liars run hot or cold for me depending on the album, but this year's is hot!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
Why would Oxford students listen to anythign different?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
actually the oxford list isn't terrible really
you know what, I'm not going to be too concerned about tokenism when I like the choice that got in so much and I think it actually is that much better than all of the albums ranked below it
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
No response from Cambridge at time of writing...though Varsity does have a Lex-baiting article on "The rapid rise of the R&B sad boy".
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
Students are not really noted for making independent aesthetic choices.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
as opposed to professional music critics
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I could easily imagine a pro critic or even an ILXor submitting the same list. There must be better targets around to point at.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 26 November 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'm not really casting aspersions, I was responding to Nick's post really, it's hardly surprising they're going for the usual critical faves.
― Matt DC, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
grooving to kendrick lamar at oxford! nice.
i'm glad people like converge so much. there is so much shitty stuff that they have helped spawn (not their fault) and its nice that people can tell a good poignantly brutal album from a bad one.
has decibel put the last three converge albums at number one? they really like converge i guess.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really feel like listening to frank ocean. do i have to? i could youtube him but i don't think i care enough...
usually i'm more curious when people talk about the same thing for months.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
love converge - ss on the money
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
when frank ocean makes an Afro-Swedish voodoo rock album i promise i will check him out.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
channel ORANGE has one great song and a bunch of okay-to-embarrassing ones
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I'm just grumpy basically and prefer lists full of surprises (and that list had just one really [i.e. Converge are still hip? I like Converge btw]). But also there's this lurking feeling you get that they're just discovering new music through the exact same channels as everyone else, you don't get the sense that these people are fully immersed in any vibrant subcultures or anything (apart from the Converge guy maybe?), it's all just the *edgier* end of the same stuff that was in the Uncut list and that's kind of boring *shakes fist*
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
“Bad Religion,” “Thinking About You,” “Super Rich Kids” and “Lost” are all really good, but I haven't felt any need to play the rest of the record since my initial engagement with it.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
Also when they go on about really liking the Jessie Ware album and then single out a particular track for praise ("listenable" - The Oxford Student), it would probably be a good idea to get its fucking name right.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
Anybody have the full MOJO list?
― soundbitesnyc, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even know what the "one great song" is: "Bad Religion"? "Super Rich Kids"? "Thinkin' Bout You"? (These aren't necessarily my favorites -- I'm just guessing what the "one great song" is for someone who thinks the album has "one great song.")
Btw, my wife, who has a habit of ignoring albums and then suddenly obsessing over them, just got really into Frank Ocean.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
...Which is to say that I've been listening to the album around the house lately, and it's been holding up nicely.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
for me, the one great song is "Thinkin' Bout You"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Hah I thought I was a bit meh on the F Ocean album too but after reading this thread it turns out I actually like it way more than most.
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
don't listen to it often but channel o is a v good album imo
it is crafted to be an extremely easy thing to listen to, which will always attract the mindless indie schlubs, but then even its hardcore reppers havent been particularly perceptive about it either
i have basically come to conclusion that it's highly appreciable but idk i'm too old to really connect with what it's saying now, same way i unquestioningly loved the first n.e.r.d lp but wouldnt today. like oh life can be empty and superficial huh kiddo?
obv there's the other angle which is great brave art and all but i don't want to get all brandon sodabread about it
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
I think this is very fair. The biggest issue I had with the album wasn't so much in how it sounds as it was in that the stories being told in most of the songs struck me as facile and, in at least one case, bordering on stupid; I really, really liked the whole woozy narrative behind "Novacane" so the last thing I expected was to feel divorced from and amused by the storytelling.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
i think this is very fair so let me get some of that whilst still being unfair and equating young with being dumb
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
That Converge album is very very good and deserves its place in any end of year list.
― ɷ, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
I implied rather than equated, but otherwise OTM
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Paste Magazinehttp://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2012/11/the-50-best-albums-of-2012.html
1. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange2. Father John Misty - Fear Fun3. Titus Andronicus - Local Business4. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...5. Sharon Van Etten - Tramp6. Alabama Shakes - Boys & Girls7. Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan8. Japandroids - Celebration Rock9. Beach House - Bloom10. First Aid Kit - The Lion's Roar11. The Men - Open Your Heart12. El-P - Cancer For Cure13. The Shins - Port Of Morrow14. The Walkmen - Heaven15. Jack White - Blunderbuss16. Tame Impala - Lonerism17. Andrew Bird - Break It Yourself18. Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, M19. Rufus Wainwright - Out Of The Game20. The Mountain Goats - Transcendental Youth21. The Lumineers – The Lumineers22. Hospitality - Hospitality23. Jens Lekman - I Know What Love Isn't24. Justin Townes Earle – Nothing’s Gonna Change The Way You Feel About Me Now25. Grizzly Bear - Shields26. Bob Dylan - Tempest27. John K. Samson – Provincial28. Divine Fits - A Thing Called Divine Fits29. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music30. David Byrne & St31. The Avett Brothers – The Carpenter32. Woods - Bend Beyond33. Howler - America Give Up34. Cloud Nothings - Attack On Memory35. King Tuff - King Tuff36. Cat Power - Sun37. Shovels & Rope – O Be Joyful38. Dr John - Locked Down39. Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas40. Todd Snider - Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables41. Of Monsters And Men – My Head is an Animal42. Bettye Lavette - Thankful 'N' Thoughtful43. Stars - The North44. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!45. Punch Brothers - Who’s Feeling Young Now?46. Damien Jurado - Maraqopa47. Baroness - Yellow & Green48. Lord Huron - Lonesome Dreams49. Kelly Hogan - I Like To Keep Myself In Pain50. Grimes - Visions
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa they put frank ocean first
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
there is still a paste! apparently. who knew?
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
Easy to keep going when you cease publishing or paying contributors.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
"20. The Mountain Goats - Transcendental Youth"
number 20 spot rightfully belongs to this album:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e0/Aerosmith_-_MFAD.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Broadcast in from print magazine heaven. Yeah they ceased publication in Sep 2010. If the ghosts of magazines I actually liked could send in lists too, this thread would officially be super duper awesome.
I am surprised I haven't seen full lists for Uncut and MOJO yet. They're probably about 70% the same. More interesting lists will come soon. There's always lots of amazing albums that are overlooked by most of the lists. I wonder if anyone will give props to this...
http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/richmedia/images/cover.gif
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, November 23, 2012 8:21 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whoa i play autoharp and omnichord on mojo's #19 album of the year #bragging
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, an error, not trying to be mysterious:http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/motorpsycho-death.jpg
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
skot ignore these fucks, channel orange is the best album this year altho rtc is maybe kind of otm to an extent. it's slightly flawed, but i haven't heard an album this year that isn't.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
lee fields is awesome. don't know what his new stuff sounds like. i mean, i can guess what it sounds like. jack white is the exact opposite of awesome. jack white is horrible and should be put in prison!
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
lol at paste putting it at the top of that terrible list tho xp
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
jesus, now i don't know what to believe about frank ocean. you guys have me all bugaboo! i'll youtube some stuff later. maybe.
The Fly's Top 50 LPs of 2012
50 Trailer Trash Tracys - Ester49 Lucy Rose - Like I Used To48 Lotus Plaza - Spooky Action At A Distance47 2:54 - 2:5446 Egyptian Hip Hop - Good Don't Sleep45 Errors - Have Some Faith In Magic'44 Stealing Sheep - Into The Diamond Sun43 Pulled Apart by Horses - Tough Love42 Trash Talk - 11941 Two Door Cinema Club - Beacon40 Allah-Las - Allah-Las39 Mystery Jets - Radlands38 Best Coast - The Only Place37 The Invisible - Rispah36 Liars - WIXIW35 Howler - America Give Up34 David Byrne & St. Vincent - Love This Giant33 Animal Collective - Centipede Hz32 Beach House - Bloom31 Here We Go Magic - A Different Ship30 Graham Coxon - A+E29 Poliça - Give You The Ghost28 TOY - TOY27 Chairlift - Something26 Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man25 Melody's Echo Chamber - Melody's Echo Chamber24 Daughn Gibson - All Hell23 Twin Shadow - Confess22 Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan21 The Cribs - In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull20 King Tuff - King Tuff19 Diiv - Oshin18 Pond - Beard Wives Denim17 The xx - Coexist16 The Vaccines - The Vaccines Come Of Age15 Purity Ring - Shrines14 Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes13 Grizzly Bear - Shields12 Alt-J - An Awesome Wave11 Lana del Rey - Born To Die10 Tame Impala - Lonerism09 The Maccabees - Given To The Wild08 Kindness - World You Need A Change Of Mind07 Field Music - Plumb06 Django Django - Django Django05 Jessie Ware - Devotion04 Cat Power - Sun03 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange02 Grimes - Visions01 Sharon Van Etten - Tramp
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
F-a-duck I wasn't showing all messages and missed that it was already posted, sorry. Going back to wrk.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
i have no idea what the fly is but i kinda wanna do a liveblog/youtube thread devoted to those albums. cuz i have no idea what most of them sound like. actually, if someone finds me the perfect indie schmindie year-end list (i haven't heard any of it, trust me) i will totally do that. that might be a winner though.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
I already thought Ocean had a decent shot at (a still-hypothetical?) P&J #1, but that seems like a bellwether.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
oh he's gonna top a lot of lists, but coming from PASTE it's pretty lol (tho they won't be alone)
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Oh sure, but that's what I mean: if even PASTE is putting him at #1, then that's a sign of many more to come.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think the P&J #1's a done deal. Unlike (seemingly) most people on ILX I love Channel Orange so I'm fine with that. I don't think he'll be robbing any masterpieces.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
frank will do really well in this poll too, tho maybe slightly under other polls if his average is like 2.2 or something
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
actually, if someone finds me the perfect indie schmindie year-end list (i haven't heard any of it, trust me) i will totally do that. that might be a winner though.
That Fly list trends a little cute for my tastes, but it's about as good a list of worthwhile indie-rock as I've seen this year. Not a bad place to start.
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
channel orange is the best album this year altho rtc is maybe kind of otm to an extent. it's slightly flawed, but i haven't heard an album this year that isn't.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:20 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
i haven't said anything about flaws - if what i've said can be construed as criticism it's personal and not universal. genuinely i think if i were a younger man i'd be all over it, really into it, but now i just get it and that's all really. what's the borges quote, "i was drawn to sunsets, slums and misfortune, now it is to mornings in the heart of the city..."
like i say though the craft at least can't be fronted on; breathes in all the right places, a better filmic album than kendrick's i'd say
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see LotusPlaza getting some love
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I like that Stealing Sheep record in the Fly list quite a bit. I realise this description will probably be the kiss of death for it for most people here, but it's really charming gentle folksy psych stuff, reminds me a little of Gorkys circa the Blue Trees but it's a bit more pop than that.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
Frank's second-best (by far) record in two years is gonna dominate these lists and run away w/ P&J :(
not that the other one was totally overlooked, i guess
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
what is the fly these days, i swear the last time i saw a physical print copy was like 2005
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Lotus Plaza will be top 5 for me. Love that record more every day.
Stealing Sheep is good too. I just discovered them from The Fly list last night.
Surprised to see that Django Django record everywhere so far. I like that album, but don't love it ... find it a bit tiresome about halfway thru. Were they the breakout indie stars in Europe this year or something?
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
xp and as that it was bit of stuff you leaf through sipping a terrible pint waiting for a band to come on at a gig, or thing you threw in a record store bag for the bus home
― r|t|c, Monday, 26 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
No wonder people think indie is a steaming pile of shit if that Fly list is hailed as a good round-up of the year. Jesus.
― emil.y, Monday, 26 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
"Gorkys circa the Blue Trees"
i liked that album a lot! and the one with the soda can on the cover. never heard their last album. maybe i should look for it.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
a better filmic album than kendrick's i'd say
― r|t|c, Monday, November 26, 2012 1:44 PM Bookmark
Oh totally, and a big part of the reason is it doesn't push its filmic qualities in your face so much.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
― alpine static, Monday, November 26, 2012 1:53 PM Bookmark
I didn't get over my skepticism of Nostalgia Ultra until I heard Channel Orange.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I really, really liked the whole woozy narrative behind "Novacane" so the last thing I expected was to feel divorced from and amused by the storytelling.
this
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
see i was relieved that the new one had no z-trip at coachella anecdotes
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 26, 2012 3:30 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm not sure what you mean here... you like the woozy narrative but felt divorced/amused by it at the same time? or divorced/amused by the storytelling on channel orange?
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
divorced from/amused by the storytelling on channel ORANGE
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't find his vocal lines particularly compelling either. Tracks like "Sweet Life" just sit there. In toto the album sounds like it could have been recorded acoustically in the seventies by a precocious singer-songwriter who doesn't come into his own until the third or fourth album.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
It's not about the stories quite as much as the emotion he injects them with.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
i still havent heard clockwork orange but when ppl say that his debut was SO MUCH BETTER im like, wow that sloppy comp of odds & ends & him doing eagles karaoke is better than his studio album?? makes me never want to hear it
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
"Swim Good" by itself is better than three quarters of Agent Orange.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
finding djp and alfred way otm right now about *orange rhyming dictionary*
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
need a new thread polling deliberate mangling options of Ocean album title
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
don't sleep on my channel BORING from a couple months back
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 26, 2012 2:51 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
One song on one album is better than some but not all of the songs on another album? Case closed.
― D-40, Monday, November 26, 2012 2:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Keep in mind that these people are dummies.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
tbh I don't mind anyone loving Orange Blossom as long as they love Kaleidoscope Dream a bit more.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
the big difference between nostalgia, ultra and chanel l'orange is that it's all about the third-person storytelling instead of the very first-person stuff of nos, ultra, but there's so much sympathy for these characters that it just kills me. he's not judging anyone, just presenting these often heartbreaking stories, like flipping through some reality tv shit
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
Kaleidoscope Dream >>> Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Channel
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
are first-person stuff and autobiography synonymous?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
eagles karaoke is 1 of 14 tracks on nostalgia, tucked conveniently at the very end along with MGMT karaoke. i don't particularly like (or despise) either of those, and thus never listen to them ... as far as i'm concerned it's a great 11-track album with a few interludes and 8 songs that range from good to amazing.
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
I have a hard time understanding how that Titus Andronicus album made anyone's list.. very disappointing and I really tried to warm up to it.
― everythingsgross, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, November 26, 2012 4:01 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
of course not, and obviously there is autobiographical and first-person stuff on channel orange, too, it's just that "frank ocean" becomes another character amongst the obviously not-frank ocean others, if that makes sense?
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:57 (56 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Or speaking of filmic albums ARMOR ON ffs
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
yep -- thanks
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, swim good and songs 4 women and we all try and dust ... for me, that's case closed.
i like channel orange but it doesn't burrow its way into me like n,u did. i dunno. i ain't gonna be pissed when it wins P&J. it's better than that tune-yards album
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
also, i need to hear ARMOR ON.
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
you really do, it's fucking amazing
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
I played "Faith" one morning last week as the sun was rising and I thought fuuuuuck
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, November 26, 2012 3:03 PM Bookmark
My top three albums this year!
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Monday, November 26, 2012 5:50 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah well this is bullshit
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
i agree in the sense that my favourite individual frank songs i think come from nostalgia, ultra, but channel orange works so well as an "album" that i can just put it on and sink into that world
channel orange and kaleidoscope dream are also 2 of my 3 favourite albums of this year, too, much like rev.
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
I can't fucking wait til everyone can hear Goldenheart
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
Me neither, so envious that you've heard it.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Goldenheart?
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
Channel Orange is great, but as a whole Swing Lo Magellan is better.
― UnderControl, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
hahahaha
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
i love everyone's enthusiasm for i am curious orange, and i put on that album every few weeks bc everyone's investment in it is certainly interesting enough to me to want to figure it out for myself, and then twenty minutes later i forget that it's on.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
i think "Pyramids" is pretty cool but the less ambitious normal-length songs on it are mostly pretty underwhelming to me, also dude sings like Omarion
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
omarion? reeeeally?
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
i love the falsetto on "thinkin' about you" but his usual singing voice, that sort of half-talking cadence feels really distant and uninvolving
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh he sounds totally like omarion, listen to the MMG album from this year xp
― J0rdan S., Monday, 26 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
omarion is a good singer fwiw
― D-40, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
what a relief that love/hate for OrangeyougonnalistentoMiguel ranges across the sexual divide.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
be cool if he sounded like michael omartian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i24QiEYkzTU&feature=relmfu
― scott seward, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
but anyway while i hated the rhetoric about "a change in r&b" that surrounded orange crush when it came out i really liked a lot of the stuff on the actual ilx thread about its qualities as an album, regardless of whether i'm into it or not.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
did anyone else love "confess" as much as me or am i alone on this one?
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
i am currently cobbling together ARMOR ON with YouTubes.
have never purchased anything from iTunes and won't be starting now; is there another way to acquire this, non-pirate style? was there a physical release. (sorry, lazy question)
― alpine static, Monday, 26 November 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
[but anyway while i hated the rhetoric about "a change in r&b" that surrounded orange crush when it came out
mmm it hasn't gone away
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure Armor On was only officially released digitally, no CD -- Amazon has it on MP3 but no physical media.
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
is there another way to acquire this, non-pirate style? was there a physical release. (sorry, lazy question)
no, no (and yes, lol). it was self-released.
to answer another question, goldenheart is the album to which armor on serves as prelude; it was due out in october but because of armor on's success she got a last-min physical distribution deal so it's been put back to january so they can make the CDs or whatever you do. the album itself is done and kinda mindblowingly good.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
it is still difficult to acquire pirate style, hence why i haven't.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 November 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
aka "this year's kid a."
Yeah, that sort of sums up my experience with it, tho I haven't tried super hard. It sounds fine when it's on, and I love "Super Rich Kids." Maybe the whole album will click with me at some point, but right now it mostly fades away for me.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
huh. well, maybe i can acquire it some other way-style.
looking fwd to the album now. FIDLAR is out that day, too. good day.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
I appreciate Frank Ocean's talent but so often he wanders off and starts singing about the most innane stuff in his pretty voice and it cheapens whatever he's trying to do. Yes, you can sing.. it still sounds dumb as hell when you sing stuff that you'd find in someone's facebook status update.
It's a nice album and it has grown on me for sure, but I really could not stand to listen to the whole thing when it first dropped in the summer. Super Rich Kids is great, Pink Matter with Andre 3000 is nice and Pyramids is a pretty good song but I have to admit I still don't quite understand the levels of praise that song alone has garnered
― everythingsgross, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 05:24 (eleven years ago) link
last time I listened to Channel Orange the song that really caught me was "Crack Rock"--the "crooked cop, dead cop" digression was more out-of-nowhere and poignant than you'd expect if you were just letting the album flow past you in the background
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 06:10 (eleven years ago) link
Goldenheart is a straight up appalling title.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/ca/MK_Golden_Heart.jpg
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
Goat album and the Sharon Van Etten are the standouts from stuff I hadn't heard before they started appearing on year end lists. Looking back at the Van Etten thread and it seems her earlier albums are more enthused about than 'Tramp' but I'm not really feeling them tbh.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
I was thinking more of the spectre of swordfighting fantasy thematic nerdery which I'm 95% sure Dawn will avoid but she's got form with this kind of thing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
why on earth would you think she'd avoid that
warhammer r&b is the next big thing
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
I heard a Game of Thrones reference in an afrobeats track the other day and a small part of me died.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link
i guess GoT references are the new Star Wars references
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
lord stark toyotaaa
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
A playa always pays his debts
― Tim F, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
In your face like a can of mace, your grace
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
don't hate the playa, hate the Game (of Thrones)
― Neil S, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Carter just RTed the list of Dublin record shop Elastic Witch so I figured I'd share it here. Bit more of my kind of thing included, I guess.
LIARS - WIXIW (Mute)SUN ARAW, M. GEDDES GENGRES & THE CONGOS - ICON GIVE THANK (rvng intl.)JULIA HOLTER - Ekstasis (rvng intl.)VESSEL - Order Of Noise (triangle)WHITE CAR - EVERYDAY GRACE (hippos in tanks)GRIMES - Oblivion (4ad)GRIZZLY BEAR - SHIELDS (warp)SWANS - THE SEER (young god)OWENSIE - CITIZENS (out on a limb)CHROMATICS - KILL FOR LOVE (italians do it better)FLYING LOTUS - UNTIL THE QUIET COMES (warp)JOHN TALABOT - FIN (permanent vacation)ARIEL PINK - MATURE THEMES (4ad)SCOTT WALKER - BISH BOSCH (4ad)DIIV - OSHIN (captured tracks)PEAKING LIGHTS - LUCIFER (weird world) MOUSE ON MARS - PARASTROPHICS (monkeytown)HOLLY HERNDON - MOVEMENT (rvng itnl.)PYE CORNER AUDIO - SLEEP GAMES (ghostbox)KATIE KIM - COVER AND FLOOD (flaming june)GOAT - WORLD MUSIC (stranded rekords)SUNKEN FOAL - FRIDAY SYNDROME VOL. 1 (countersunk)ITAL - HIVE MIND - (planet mu)DAPHNI - JIAOLONG (jiaolong)CARTER TUTTI VOID - TRANSVERSE (mute)BEAK> - » (invada)SEA PINKS - FREAK WAVES (c/f records)UMBERTO - THE NIGHT HAS A THOUSAND SCREAMS (rock action)VOICES FROM THE LAKE - VOICES FROM THE LAKE (prologue)
Compilations/Collections:VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION, EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST PUNK 1980-1983 (cache cache)VARIOUS ARTISTS - PERSONAL SPACE, ELECTRONIC SOUL 1974-1984 (chocolate industries)
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
which, say 3, of those would you recommend the most emil.y?
― pandemic, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that is a decent list. That Sun Araw, Geddes Gengras & the Congos record is some kind of high-water mark in stoned sounds. I can't really think of much to compare it to, it's like a fucked-up dub reggae version of Skip Spence's Oar. So beautiful!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
^^^I haven't heard all that much new stuff this year, but that Sun Araw is up there with Swans for my favorite thing.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
whenever i see that title i start singing: "bish bosch i was taking a bOth long about a saturday night..."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
whenever i see the name sun araw i start singing rolf harris's sun arise in my head.
Yeah, that is a decent list. That Sun Araw, Geddes Gengras & the Congos record is some kind of high-water mark in stoned sounds. I can't really think of much to compare it to, it's like a fucked-up dub reggae version of Skip Spence's Oar. So beautiful!― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:29 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:29 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was disappointed to be honest. Maybe I should give it another go but Sun Araw's sound gets really boring for me after a while.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
the flylo record is aging well for me, i hear new things in it every time i put it on.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
Guess it took me a little time to really warm to the Sun Araw, think you have just got to let go of the edge and just float around in it for a while. And the Congos sound amazing on it, so otherworldly. The really deep bass voice especially, that sounds majestic among all those discombobulated electronics.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Still need to hear Voices From The Lake, that record has been on my list for months and months.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
It's okay, I didn't really understand the rapturous reception it got, but I'm not very good with non-melodic techno that isn't danceable. The textures were fantastic but it didn't really engage beyond that.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
i'll give it another go Nick
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Heart of the Congos is one of my alltime favourite records in any genre, so I should really.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
Matt DC - have you heard Ital yet? I'm curious to know whether you like that one or not.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to it once and wasn't really feeling it.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
mmm... i'm having trouble with it. i figured it's better if i pretend it's not supposed to be dance music at all.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Pye Corner Audio have been doing some good stuff this year. The Beak> album is absolutely great (though I still haven't managed to track down a vinyl copy yet). I love the Julia Holter (though not as much as Tragedy, which I couldn't get hold of but thought was sublime). Sun Araw & the Congos I agree with Nick on, though it didn't take me too long to warm to - "float around in it" is spot on.
Need to listen to more: Carter Tutti Void (but what I've heard is great), Scott (will be getting this ASAP, 'Epizootics!' is awesome), only heard the one Goat track so far but it rules, new Mouse on Mars I have yet to hear.
I seem to recall the bit of the Umberto record I heard was disappointing, but I liked their one before so much that I should probably give it another go.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'm gonna have to wait till Xmas till I hear Bish Bosch, but yeah Epizootics! is crazy good - "My neighbour was frightened by Hawaiians"
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
Cranky ol me likes the Congos without guests much better, and I find Holter too ethereal.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
That Holly Herndon album is pretty interesting. Need to listen to it more, it was only up on spotify for two days before it got taken down again, but iirc it was an unusual mix of slightly industrial-sounding techno and more academic-leaning art experiments, lots of processed voice and mouth sounds and stuff. Getting lots of comparisons to Laurel Halo which I can sort of see as she seems to have a foot in both those worlds too.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
A fair few things on the Elastic Witch list are also likely to make my EOY ballot: Julia Holter, Sun Araw et al., Grimes, Chromatics, Talabot. On the other hand I thought the Daphni and Umberto albums were let-downs relative to expectations and my love affair with Peaking Lights, uh, peaked some time ago. Pye Corner Audio/Holly Herndon/Goat/Diiv/Beak> are solid but others do similar better imo. Still want to hear Flying Lotus, Voices From The Lake and obviously Scott.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Norman Records top 50: http://www.normanrecords.com/top-fifty.php
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, that Norman list reminds me I need to listen to the Andy Stott more. And good to see Divorce in there, even if they are in the latter reaches.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, finally someone rates Motorpsycho's The Death Defying Unicorn (#36)! Cool list! Only complaint is listing the not-amazing Om album at #3 while overlooking the likes of Ufomammut.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
The Om album is the best thing they have done in a long long time.
― ɷ, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
NME top 50
Tame Impala - Lonerism Grimes - Visions Frank Ocean - Channel Orange Crystal Castles - III Alt-J - An Awesome Wave The Maccabees - Given To The Wild Pond - Beard Wives Denim The Cribs -In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull Jake Bugg - Jake Bugg Jack White - Blunderbuss Django Django - Django Django David Byrne & St Vincent - Love This Giant DIIV - Oshin The XX - Coexist Sharon Van Etten - Tramp Melody's Echo Chamber - Melody's Echo Chamber Grizzly Bear - Shields Tribes - Baby Toy - Toy Howler - America Give Up Cat Power - Sun Beach House - Bloom Richard Hawley - Standing At The Sky's Edge Merchandise - Children Of Desire Ariel Pink - Mature Themes Spector - Enjoy It While It Lasts Jessie Ware - Devotion Spiritualized - Sweet Heart, Sweet Light Mac DeMarco - 2 Breton - Other People's Problems Kanye West - Cruel Summer Graham Coxon - A+E Hot Chip - In Our Heads Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man Metz - Metz The Vaccines - Come Of Age Enter Shikari - A Flash Flood Of Colour TEED - Trouble Liars - WIXIW Polica - Give You The Ghost Ty Segall - Twins Paul Weller - Sonik Kicks Ratking - Wiki93 Kendrick Lamar - Good Kid, MAAd City Lana Del Rey - Born To Die Bobby Womack - The Bravest Man In The Universe John Talabot - Fin The 2 Bears - Be Strong Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes Purity Ring - Shrines
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
NME best tracks of 2012 Spotify playlist
http://open.spotify.com/user/nme.com/playlist/0E9FpJ4eISNe2HtMo5WBgO
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
lol Cruel Summer over Kendrick, even in a year when it's not hard to get token rap picks right they find a way to fuck up
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
lol i was just gonna say
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
really do not get tame impala at all
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
you do not need to put flange on everything
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
is this the first year in the last decade that there hasn't been a big crossover indie/alt album in the NME top 20 albums of the year? your man in the street/non NME reader hasn't heard of any of that stuff i'm saying.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
but...but...Jake Bugg!
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
Who gave Nottingham its first ever #1!
― ɷ, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
That NME tracks list doesn't exactly resemble my favourites of 2012 but isn't terrible - Palma Violets at #1 smacks of desperation though. There's something actually a bit sad about the albums list though, like it shows how meagre the pickings are in their natural stamping ground these days.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
Q magazine:
http://gallery.qthemusic.com/gallery/qs50bestalbumsof2012/Default.aspx
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Was wondering if Cruel Summer would even show up on end of year polls. Maybe Complex might list it as well?
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised by Daphni and Peaking Lights on that Q list.
This Alt-J record keeps getting props by such mags, never heard of it before. What is this?
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20176215
― piscesx, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like I've listened to music nonstop this year, but it still never ceases to amaze what the celebrated records are...
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
That Bobby Womack album with the Alborn and Richard Russell production tries to duplicate the production approach Russell used on last year's Gil Scott-Heron album, but it's it's a bit bland this time around imho(and I like Womack's voice). They even include a Gil Scott-Heron sample. That may be good enough to get the token old-school soul slot on some lists, but eh, I will stick with Jeff Floyd and/or other obscure Southern soul singers who appear on the http://www.soulbluesmusic.com/southernsoulbluescharts.htm list. Alas, artists on that chart are not marketed it to the crossover print or online media (which does not seek it out on its own); and their synth backing sounds annoy the few fans of old-school soul and most contemporary r'n'b who might hear it. I still like it though (as I've made tediously clear on here on other threads!).
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
I've got a soft spot for some Brit guitar pop, but the latest Maccabees kind of sucks. I don't get why NME and Q rate that but skipped Maximo Park's The National Health, which is pretty great. Not sure what to think of Alt-J after first time through. I see that they're trying to be 'different', but only about three cuts work as far as I can tell.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
took me until now to realize Alt-J wasn't k-pop
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
really do not get tame impala at all― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:38 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkyou do not need to put flange on everything― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:38 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:39 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
everyone just mentally made a Garu G's gran joke here and moved on, right
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not exactly sure what flange is, but I love their sound.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
never thought i'd see the day when jaymc acted a tuomas
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it shouldn't, it's a fucking mess
― childish bambino (rennavate), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
Well, obviously. But ya know, Kanye.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
and ya know, Complex
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there's no doubt it will be on complex list... i mean they ran a piece after it dropped explaining why it was the latest example of kanye's greatness EVEN IF NO ONE WANTED TO ADMIT IT YET
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
their 1200 word manifesto about how "No Worries" is Lil Wayne's amazing undeniable comeback song was funnier though
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
shit that's a deep cut, i'm gonna have to look that up
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
I think I know what it is -- I mean, I know that it's a guitar effect -- but YouTube loads pretty fucking slowly on my work computer.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
classic shit: http://www.complex.com/music/2012/09/lil-wayne-is-back-and-its-because-of-no-worries
― some dude, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
i actually think wayne's rapping quite well on dedication 4 but i know i'm in the minority on that one
― childish bambino (rennavate), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
smfh
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
glad to see you agree j0rdan
― childish bambino (rennavate), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, November 27, 2012 4:58 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
sssssmmmmhhhhhhh
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Did Palma Violets actually get NME's Single of the Year?
― soundbitesnyc, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
yahhh, I haven't seen any singles/tracks list
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
oh man pictures of Alt J and Django Django
― that's the way to choke a jiving spirit (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
Next installment of the Guardian list:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2012/nov/28/guardian-best-albums-2012-20-11
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
TAYLOR at 16 <3 but TOO LOW by at least 15 spots
Miguel at 11, wow, kinda didn't expect him to be that high.
Cooly G just missed out on my ballot, glad to see her place.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link
Cooly G at #15 !
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
11 is an amazing placement for Miguel given his profile is pretty much zero over here. By rights he should be placing above Frank Ocean on every list but you can't have everything I suppose.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:48 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel would have been even higher if I hadn't been so tardy about getting around to listening to it. Fantastic album - straight into my top 10.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
I know this probably isn't the best thread to say this in, but the inevitability of these lists each December coupled with the inevitability of certain acts getting "grandfathered" into said lists regardless of how uninteresting their material is as well as the general critical reaffirmation of conventional wisdom - the ritual nature of it all is just really difficult for me to engage with
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
I mean there are always nice surprises - like DL discovering one of his favourite albums at the last second but those little bottle rockets are not what these lists feel like they're about to me - they always feel more like they're about consolidating, congealing, shoring up defenses - blarg
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
They're about both, their very predictability means that the outliers stick out.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link
Nice, was wondering if Melody's Echo Chamber would place anywhere
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
This might seem a bit of an obvious statement to make, but the number of these lists I look down and think "But this isn't what I've been listening to this year....", and sure, I wouldn't expect them to mirror my tastes at all, but you get things that place really high that really couldn't be described as any more than just so-so. #Gentrificationabounds
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks you jerks, you made me listen to a fucking Lik Wayne joint in 2012
Worse, to watch the video
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
If 2012's zenith really did come courtesy of the likes of Alt-J, Django Django, Tame Impala and Frank Ocean, what a depressing state of affairs that would be. I'd pretty much give up listening to music. So why do these kinds of acts come up trumps each year round, even in reputable publications?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
We don't really need to go into the handwringing here but maybe people like those acts? They at least seem to have some momentum about them which is more than you can say for x rock band on their fifth album that even the fans don't rate that highly.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
Is that a Hot Chip diss?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
I don't hate any of those acts BTW, but them appearing near the top of these lists sometimes reeks of "this is the best we can do"
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
That Tame Impala record is p great IMO, but then I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
I thought Django Django was a pretty great record, actually.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's fun too. I think they might make more good records as well, they seem to have the right ideas.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I really like it as well and they're terrific live. The Tame Impala one isn't bad per se although it's derivative as hell. I didn't find the Frank Ocean album particularly engaging but the people who do like it clearly find something very strongly resonating with them. I don't think any of them represent particularly rote or uninspired choices.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
Obviously I'm shocked and appalled that any reputable publication would touch them but whatever.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
They're fine records, just fine. Maybe I'm developing ridiculously high standards or something ;-)
Django Django's okay, I sometimes get the Hail Bopp song stuck in my head, but really they're the Byrds with a 4/4 backbeat - I wouldn't call it remarkable.
Is the new Tame Impala much different from the first one (which sounded just like Dungen to me)? Reports of unnecessary levels of flange don't bode well in my book.
I thought Alt-J were interesting first time I heard a track, but I can't bring myself to get through their album without getting frustratedly bored. Plus they look like a bunch of marketing managers.
And Frank Ocean, again, good enough but again I'm wondering if this is blowing my fokken mind or if it's much more than someone doing decent Wayne and Wonder impressions on a home budget?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
it's CHRISTMASTIME, you know very well you're just supposed to shut up and go to church and get one of those little candles and sing 'silent night' and not complain
― j., Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
With these lists I'm usually just happy when some albums I care about appear; the Guardian list has Nite Jewel/Polica/Dawn Richard/Cooly G/Chromatics/Miguel so far, which is pretty good going for me compared to most other non-specialist lists. Nobody who calls ILM home can be under the impression that the rest of the world has the same taste or the same ideas about what's important as we do?
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^THIS
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for those recommendations emil.y
― pandemic, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
It's interesting that the only pet heavy album making some of the lists is Converge. I guess doom won't be cracking the mainstream this year ;) But not even the crossover likes of Torche and Baroness?
I somehow forgot about Peaking Lights and am enjoying the new one, though not quite as good as the Moon Duo which is oddly missing from the lists so far. Am enjoying Sun Araw & M.G. Gengras Meet The Congos, Polica, Dawn Richard, Holly Herndon, Actress, Mala, Angel Haze and Jam City.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
Baroness made the Paste list.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think I've seen it in any lists yet but I really like Zombie Zombie - Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde, which came out last week.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
this makes sense, as it is a well-crafted indie rock record
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Heavy but not metal: Swans will be on a lot of lists
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
Blut Aus Nord is on the AllMusic list too
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Om and UFOmammut ought to be on the crossovery lists too.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
You're assuming that other people find those records as underwhelming as you do but are scared to say so. Maybe they just, y'know, really like them.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm liking this a lot
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I'd never paid much attention to Zombie Zombie before but that album bangs. I suppose it shares with Mungolian Jet Set at their best this sort of soundtrack to a boys adventure story from the 1930s kind of vibe, except they're coming to it from a krautrocky direction rather than a Balearic/disco/stupid Muppet voice direction.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
i recommend their debut album too, a land for renegades (tbh the new one doesn't move their thing on a great deal, but it's a good thing so i don't mind)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
my personal coping method w/r/t these EOY lists is turning out to be singing very loudly at them "HIDE AWAY AND FIND YOUR PEACE OF MIND / WITH SOME INDIE RECORD THAT'S ~MUCH~ COOLER THAN MINE"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'm so sorry, is there anyone we can call for you?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
I've only heard one Alt-J song, and I don't even remember the title of it, but it was pretty gross.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
... rather than a Balearic/disco/stupid Muppet voice direction.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Seeing as almost the entirety of ilx disses anything that has the remotest whiff of "indie" upon it and proclaims Taylor Swift to be the genius of our generation, don't you think your "poor victimised poptimist" stance has worn somewhat thin?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
people love to form a mixed set of opinions from many individuals into an imaginary single-minded monolith. including you, apparently.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
I can probably give you evidence to back up my claims, though.
Anyway, I was originally going to post on this thread b/c I thought someone might know where the 2012 thread equivalent of "we're halfway through 20xx - what are your favourite records?" is. I think it might have been called something slightly different but I'm obviously not searching for the right phrases...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Rolling "favorite music of 2012 so far" thread (albums and/or tracks edition)
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
If you're talking about "ILX" as a monolith you can provide evidence to back up almost any claim no matter how batshit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ah brilliant. Definitely need to refresh my memory of what was out and good earlier in the year.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
I clearly wasn't saying "ilx" was a single-minded organism, otherwise how could it possibly have an "almost all" selection? Learn to read better.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
emil.y OTM. it's not like ILX is some kind of alt/indie stronghold, far from it. So it would be nice to be spared the annual preaching to the choir this time round and accept that PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
that's not aimed at anyone particular - it goes for me and my complaints upthread too.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
eh the problem isn't that people like different things it's that they like bad things that are boring and everyone all likes the same bad boring things and this time of year everyone compiles it all into lists--not to say that this this complaint isn't played out, but it's not the same as PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Oh come on you know full well there'll be as much indie as anything else when ILX does its poll, probably more. It's not like either camp can claim to be particularly hard done by here.
Being sniffy about indie is a glorious ILM tradition that goes back to pretty much the very first thread though.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Think of it as a counterbalance to decades of indie fans claiming they're the only ones who really care about music.
xxpost So moan about the lists or individual albums being boring, don't act like some sort of genre martyr because "OMG indie rag put lots of indie in its top 10, how dare they" etc..
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
"almost the entirety of ilx" disses indie and loves Taylor is just absurd tea party false minority shit
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
xp everything is an indie rag now fyi
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
In fairness if I had to hazard a guess it would be that at least 80% of ILM, myself included, would self-identify as an indie kid or having been an indie kid at some point in the past, including many of the people who take the "lol indie" stance in these threads.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
quite, but also most people on ILM now say they like, or at least appreciate, all kinds of music
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
i can't remember the last time anyone, other than some random kid googler, came along and slated pop as a genre or slagged-off a pop artist because they didn't write their own songs or didn't play guitar or whatever, all the while bigging-up some aching shitpipe of a landfill indie band.
anyway, we talk about this stuff every year as well, so not worth going into it any more now.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
There's an indie lurker contingent that votes in ILX polls but Taylor Swift gets a hell of a lot more love from people who actually post than, say, the Cribs do. Lex should pop on over to the Guardian AOTY comment thread if he wants some old skool "this isn't real music" cranks to kick against.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Zombie Zombie - Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde, great so far. Tip!
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
The slagging off of pop is all over the Guardian albums thread, though it tends to be – I think - from those of advancing years bitter about the loss of "proper" music, or from those who can't understand why not everyone is swooning over Japanese noise or Southern Lord releases.
xpost I see Dorian is making this very point.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Taylor Swift gets about as much love as any one of a dozen current indie acts on ILM (and not whoever the Cribs are, someone with an established ILM fanbase).
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
"indie" is a conveniently amorphous umbrella for everyone to hide different things under, Lex aside most people using the word as an insult have a 'good indie' and a 'bad indie' in mind (and no 2 people have the same concept of what those groups encompass).
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
my comment was directed at all the publications whose lists we are discussing, not ilx! this is the reason i post on ilx!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
and i just listened to the scott walker album
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Lex likes enough more than enough indie to have that filter as well he just doesn't acknowledge its existence very often.
(hah, xpost)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
true
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Someone on the Guardian thread complaining that the Cooly G album has too much filler and then saying that the Chromatics is their favourite record of the year. What the hell? That album is about three years longer than it needed to be.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
The authenticity bores on the Guardian thread have suddenly turned me into a passionate defender of the (pretty good, too long, occasionally facepalmy) Lana Del Rey record.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
What's this year's go-to album for the comments crank with the superiority complex? Looks like Swans so far. (Not that it's Swans' fault)
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
i've actually been making little noises of delight every time a comment along the lines of "THIS LIST HAS LOST ITS LAST SHRED OF CREDIBILITY" pops up. guardian grumps giving me life. a repeat of last year's beyoncé/katy b outrage is prob too much to hope for, though i enjoyed the minor consternation farrah abraham caused.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
It's like poptimism never happened.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
"EveChang
28 November 2012 6:22 PMLink to this comment
If you want authentic real music by artists who write their own songs then your choice should be the magnificent Taylor Swift album rather than the old fart overrated garbage that are Swans."
Ha ha
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol i remember her killing it in the comments last year too! see i do <3 some of the readers
the lana del rey complaints just make me apoplectic because NO ONE CAN SPELL HER VERY SIMPLE NAME
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
Go tell it to Alex Petridis. Commenters don't spel 2 gud.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
oh i have seen enough manglings of my surname to know that :(
John9113 December 2011 5:49 PMLink to this comment2Jesus Christ, clearly just put in to make the list more interesting and less predictable. I've heard the album, and it's completely banal and average. If it's the 4th best of the year then this must be music's all time worst year.I wish I'd been around in 1967 when this top 10 would include Sgt. Pepper, Velvet Underground and Nico, Forever Changes, The Doors, Are You Experienced, Piper at the Gates of Dawn etc. EveChang13 December 2011 5:56 PMLink to this comment8Response to John91, 13 December 2011 5:49 PMWhy would you want to live in the past?
eve chang also says she's a teenage girl, i hope in 5-6 years she's writing for the guardian
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Get some rock up in yer rock:
http://loudwire.com/best-rock-albums-of-2012/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
Loudwire 10 best rock albums:
1 Deftones - Koi No Yokan2 Stone Sour - House Of Gold & Bones Part 13 Dead Sara - Dead Sara4 Baroness - Yellow and Green5 Halestorm - The Strange Case Of6 Serj Tankian - Harakiri7 Marilyn Manson - Born Villain8 Shinedown - Amaryllis9 Soundgarden - King Animal10 Lacuna Coil - Dark Adrenaline
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
Loudwire 10 best meatl albums:
1 Between the Buried and Me - The Parallax II: Future Sequence2 Napalm Death - Utilitarian3 Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind4 High on Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis5 Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage6 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner7 Woods of Ypres - Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light8 Down - Down IV, Part 1 – The Purple EP9 Lamb of God - Resolution10 Goatwhore - Blood for the Master
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
meatl is the best
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
That rock list, oi. http://youtu.be/OGtUD4jetUo
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
And that Hot Rockstar Wives piece on the sidebar, lol
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
the deftones and dead sara records are both great, have no idea how the rest of those records are there
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
but then what even is a loudwire
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
A slightly more user-friendly list rather than their block of cover images. Alpha order.
Q Magazine - Top 50 Albums of 2012The 2 Bears - Be StrongAlabama Shakes - Boys & GirlsAlt-J - An Awesome WavePaul Banks - BanksBat For Lashes - The Haunted ManBeach House - BloomJake Bugg - Jake BuggDavid Byrne & St. Vincent - Love This GiantCat Power - SunLeonard Cohen - Old IdeasDaphni - JiaolongLana Del Rey - Born To DieDirty Projectors - Swing Lo MagellanDjango Django - Django DjangoBob Dylan - TempestEL-P - Cancer4CureField Music - PlumbGo-Kart Mozart - On The Hot Dog StreetsGrimes - VisionsGrizzly Bear - ShieldsRen Harvieu - Through The NightRichard Hawley - Standing At The Sky's EdgeHere We Go Magic - A Different ShipHot Chip - In Our HeadsElton John Vs. Pnau - Good Morning To The NightJosephine - PortraitThe Killers - Battle BornKindness - World, You Need A Change of MindMark Lanegan Band - Blues FuneralThe Maccabees - Given to the WildMala in Cuba - Mala in CubaMumford & Sons - BabelMuse - The 2nd LawFrank Ocean - Channel OrangeOrbital - WonkyPeaking Lights - LuciferPlan B - Ill ManorsEmeli Sande - Our Version of EventsSaint Etienne - Words And Music By Saint EtienneSchool Of Seven Bells - GhostoryBruce Springsteen - Wrecking BallTame Impala - LonerismTotally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - TroubleThe Vaccines - Come Of AgeSharon Van Etten - TrampThe Walkmen - HeavenJessie Ware - DevotionPaul Weller - Sonik KicksJack White - BlunderbussBobby Womack - The Bravest Man In The Universe
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
tabs out podcast list:
#1 Bastian Void "Fluorescent Bells" (Field Hymns) #2 V/A "Duets" compilation (Tranquility) #3 Brett Naucke "Home By Now" (Field Studies) #4 Grasshopper "The Day America Forgot" (SicSic) #5 Crystal Palace "Spirit Quest" (Rotifer) #6 Colored Mushroom And The Medicine Rocks "Sunshine Units" (Wagon) #7 V/A "Inscriptions" compilation (Sacred Phrases) #8 Lace Bows "Pollen Futures" (Hooker Vision) #9 J.D. Emmanuel "Peaceful Kingdom Concert 1982" (Sonic Meditations) #10 Quiet Evenings / Former Selves split (Constellation Tatsu) #11 Quintron "Singing House Demo Vol.1" (Spirit Candle) #12 Voder Deth Squad "II" (SicSic) #13 Jonathan James Carr "Well Tempered Ignorance" (Field Hymns) #14 Tearist "Purple Video" (Nostilevo) #15 Run DMT / Tracey Trance split (C.G.I.Friday) #16 Aaron Dilloway "Tractor Cuts" (Robert & Leopold) #17 The Aleph s/t (Tape Drift) #18 Quicksails / Head Boggle split (Discriminate Bonus Series) #19 Rambutan "Typhoon Shapes" (Cae-Sur-A) #20 Mark Bradley / No Mind Meditation split (Goldtimers) #21 Bil Vermette "Archives I" (Field Studies) #22 Rust Worship "Deposit Of Despondency" (Tape Drift) #23 Caldera Lakes "Live At Ogden Theatre" (Dokuro) #24 Steve Kenney "Dawn Window" (Imminent Frequencies) #25 Developer / Moth Cock split (A Soundesign Recording)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
Moth Cock ftw!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
So Animal Collective have only turned up in the Fly list so far (at #33)? Fallen are the heroes etc etc.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
lol what the fuck is aquacrunk― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, November 23, 2012 12:44 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, good point. Centipede doesn't sound all that different from Merriweather to me. I guess they just move on looking for something shinier?
I think I like the Cooly G but it really slipped by in the background while I was workin, am giving it another go.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't heard any of the Tabs Out list and for that am mad at myself
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Centipede is good but not great
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
I like to think everyone looked back at MPP and went "wait a second, I hate this" and took it out on Centipede Hz
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
I think I prefer Centipede to MPP
― Moodles, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
goat album is fun but it's just krautrock
― whinesplaining 101 (cozen), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
curious to see if certain favorites of mine are going to show up on anything at all (shigeto, bad plus, jon mu3ller)
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
NME list got me to listen to that Metz album finally and it's fucking great. Was it n/a or someone that was complaining about not finding too many good loud indie guitar records? It's not hugely original but if you're up for some Jesus Lizard-y aggro-splurgecore, it's definitely worth checking out.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
Has the Josephine Foster album turned up anywhere? One of the best albums of the year imo.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
i've listened to it a few times, including this morning, and can't get into it at all. it's got some nice production/arrangement touches here and there but the songs don't grab me. maybe it's just me.xpost
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
Aw damn n/a.. I might be having a somewhat excitable reaction to it though tbh, cos I haven't really listened too much stuff that's as in yer face as that this year.
seandalai: J Foster will make the Wire list for sure, haven't seen it elsewhere
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
She'd better make the ILM list too, or I will fix the results be sad.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
haha! will probably toss it a few points unless it gets edged out...
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
like I still haven't heard the new Lau Nau! where is it amazon you bastards
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
Where are the REAL MUSIC lists? I want REAL MUSIC. I do not tolerate MANUFACTURED MUSIC. REAL MUSIC is for men. We bring fire. We hunt. We listen to REAL MUSIC
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
Nick - if you want inyerface stuff try Divorce, for serious.
seandalai - haven't heard the Josephine Foster record, saw her live a couple of times years back and she was amazing, though, so I'll see if I can check it out before poll time.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
dang the bad plus and shigeto albums both sound great, maybe i'm just turning into Jordan
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
As for Animal Collective... I still love MPP, but I haven't heard the new one. I do tend towards wanting breadth, though, there aren't many bands I follow for entire careers, I'd rather hear a new sound or a new idea.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
I did try Divorce a while back, it's not so much in-yer-face as right-thru-yer-face-and-out-the-other-side. Thanks for the reminder!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
glad you like them, i love both of those records.xp
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
Okay I have just listened to a bit more Divorce and it is like the second coming of the Stretchheads.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
fyi: moth cock is playing with unicorn hard on this month in belchertown.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds like a veritable smorgasboard of mythical wang
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, November 28, 2012 1:45 PM Bookmark
Yeah, it's a record I want to like more than I can. It all sounds nice but it's really ignorable. Not horrible or anything but kind of a disappointment nonetheless.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
Some days I love the Cooly G and some days it can't hold my attention. Whether I vote for it in EOY will depend on what kind of day it is, I guess.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
It'll probably make the lower reaches of my ballot but it's not exactly something I'm going to evangelize about like I did when "Love Dub" dropped.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
Basically you only need "It's Serious", "Landscapes" and "Playin' Me", but the whole conceit of a drum kit having an epileptic fit on a water bed with satin sheets is good/interesting/arresting enough to lift the album well above its objective "three amazing tracks plus pleasant filler" status.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
finally a list w/ Dead Sara on it! my #2 of the year.
― some dude, Thursday, 29 November 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
My Josephine Foster radar has alerted me to this:
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:06 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
You know I'll vote for it! "Geyser" is among my top 5 songs of the year and the rest of the album is great too.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
haha i knew ship would rep for this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 29 November 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
Centipede is discernibly different from MPP. It's noisier, less melodic, and not as varied. Not to say it's a bad album (it's good, not great), but it's certainly one of their least pleasurable albums to listen to.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 29 November 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a little surprised that "Music For the Quiet Hour" isn't on any lists
― Dan S, Thursday, 29 November 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
I still really like MPP but Centipede seemed lacking in any kind of spark beyond a couple of tracks.
I gave the Cooly G album another try a couple of nights ago and it really clicked with me, even though it is kind of backgroundy it still benefitted from being played a lot louder.
Goat and Miguel have been the two great discoveries from this thread so far, have bought both.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link
less reverb all over Centipede, which I'd usually count as a good thing, but the songs just suck on the whole.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
Has the Black Dice album shown up on any of these lists? Rashad?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
Shackleton & Pinch got totally shafted last year too iirc. Dunno how Shackleton would work in a club at all, ought to make more of an effort to go and see him, but he's my go-to producer for creepy midnight dog-walking music. That whole set is such a sprawling, mysterious labyrinth of a record, it's definitely paid off spending a lot of time with it.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
Fucking hell, the comments on that Guardian thread
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:07 (eleven years ago) link
Is this for real?
Music is not just the preserve of the young, the trendy and the journalists. And undoubtedly - whatever an individuals personal preferences - there are many better releases this year than those listed, that have either been ignored or not considered "with it" enough for inclusion (or even bothering to listen to in most cases, I suspect.
As for the Morrissey quote: well this has been the case for at least 20 years: where are all the albums for the white, middle-aged, middle class, who like their artists to have some integrity and life-experience, and who like their music written and performed by those who can actually write and perform?
I expect to get ridiculed for this, but 3 of the best albums produced this year by British artists - all self-penned and performed; all appreciated by fans as a high mark in each band's career, and all thoroughly independent from modern commercialism are:
Marillion - Sounds That Can't Be MadeAnathema - Weather SystemsBig Big Train - English Electric Part 1
I don't expect any of these to figure in this top 40 - or pretty much any "top" listing of the year. Which is a shame.
These lists are pointless - take no notice!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
where are all the albums for the white, middle-aged, middle class
where oh where
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
Dunno how Shackleton would work in a club at all
Really well. His live set is absolutely amazing. You wouldn't htink it would work in a club but live he just kills it every time
― paolo, Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
Basically you only need "It's Serious", "Landscapes" and "Playin' Me"
i don't necessarily disagree that there's a certain element of backgroundiness to the cooly g album but i totally disagree with this - if anything i think the album is stronger the more vocal-driven it is, ie "he said i said", "come into my room" etc
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not actually saying the rest of the album isn't great though quoting half my post may imply that - I probably should have said "these are the 'standout' tracks but the backgroundiness of the rest (including the vocal tracks) is something I still find really enjoyable/compelling/etc."
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
cos people who like dance music listen to singles and mixes
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
do they?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
We don't need to do this again.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
lol, just trolling
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
don't worry, we won't! best to stick to waving around football scarfs emblazoned with the names of our favourite bands/vague musical causes.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
nah best to carry on posting on a music messageboard about how even expressing an opinion about music is fundamentally worthless while studiously sticking to snark and failing to say a single fucking interesting thing ever yourself
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.ehow.com/way_5768019_microwave-popcorn-instructions.html
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
don't worry, we won't! best to stick to waving around football scarfs emblazoned with the names of our favourite bands/vague musical causes
This would actually be preferable to doing "Albums: Are they or aren't they irrelavent to dance music?" for the eight millionth time.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
HARDZUNG
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
see i didn't say this at all, but i know it's difficult when someone interrupts the all-caps juvenile crowing.
i didn't suggest we do this, matt.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
when your entire style is misrepresenting what others are doing it's not a good look to whine about being misrepresented yourself
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
I've only heard the lindstrom out of these, and felt pretty neutral about it, I keep forgetting about the Smallpeople album, i WILL try that later today, I also remember your voices from the lake recommendation, i should try that too, never heard of blondes or vatican shadow
there's apparently (yet another) new STL album, not heard it yet tho....i'm kinda drowning in records this year
― coal, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
bought a couple double lps just for one track recently also:/
― coal, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
i was a bit confused by vatican shadow - it's the prurient guy, right? i listened to some stuff i downloaded and it sounded like someone treading on bubblewrap for about 5 minutes. i'm assuming that's not what it's supposed to be?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
extra points for not saying an insect walking on a microphone
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Think the thing about those albums, except Blondes/Lindstrom (and maybe Andy Stott, dunno haven't heard it), is that they aren't really going to hook in people who aren't particularly into dance music. I'd expect them to place in the RA and maybe FACT polls.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
obv i am not saying that those albums are an entire representation of dance music in 2012, which we know is track/mix-driven, but in a thread focusing on albums i felt it would be pertinent to mention a few excellent electronic full-lengths that i could imagine others enjoying
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
the andy stott album is really amazing though, i say this as someone who had never cared about his stuff before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVvgWXX8RzU
i think vatican shadow has released more than one album this year, it seems that the one i've been enjoying (ghosts of chechnya) is his first totally techno one
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
andy stott - now he did one last year which i thought was okay if a bit one-trick-poneyish - like a study in sidechain compression. I reckon it would have sounded amazing on a big rig, but it didn't suit my morning commute so much. Is this album much different?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
Same basic sound (a great one too imo) but the vocals totally give it another dimension
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
with say, michael mayer, most people i know seem way more excited about the RA mix than the album. i'm not talking about some cabal of hardcore dance heads or whatever either, just that i don't even know anyone who has mentioned mantasy or talked about it, whereas the RA mix had a huge buzz going from loads of people. and hardly surprising, a mayer mix is better than most albums.
similarly the dixon/ame boiler room is one of the things people have talked about most this year, in my anecdotal experience.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
There's a pretty long history of Kompakt artist albums being a bit underwhelming that feeds into this a bit. The Mayer album is nice but it doesn't feel essential (or particularly danceable for most of it). I haven't actually heard the RA mix, I should rectify that immediately. The barely-listened to 12hr Mayer mix is still sitting on my desktop from the beginning of the year, chastening me.
I'm assuming anything called 'Ghosts of Chechnya' is going to be at the bleak and austere end of the spectrum?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
that Voices From The Lake album is pretty terrific and I would cheerfully recommend it to anyone with a passing interest in techno, but I'm not kidding myself that that equals real-world crossover appeal
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
the Sigha album also, although that's only been out about a fortnight
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:12 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's actually a banging set of hi-nrg turbo folk pop trash, arkan gave it four stars in the observer iirc
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
That guy is pretty big on bleak panicky terror in general - as dog latin said, he's also the guy behind Prurient who were a harsh noise meets coldwave synth thing. Don't know what the Ghosts of Chechnya is like exactly, but he's had a whole pile of releases over the last year or so in that series, all with record covers featuring portraits of soldiers etc from recent zones of conflict and track titles like Bin Laden's Corpse. Good times.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
this Vatican Shadow album is incredible
I've been in a cave for a while, when did industrial lounge music start happening?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
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― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, November 29, 2012 5:03 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd go a bit further than this and say that Luxury Problems could really appeal to people who weren't bothered with the two from last year (like lex). The vocals add a lot, but the whole album sprawls less and has more variety--it's a lot less relentless sonically.
― rob, Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:28 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this sounds like the best thing ever
― D-40, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Mixtarum Metallum IV: The 20 Best of 2012http://www.popmatters.com/pm/tools/full/165770
Neurosis - Honor Found in DecayLiberteer - Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your KneesPallbearer - Sorrow and ExtinctionBlack Breath - Sentenced to LifeGod Seed - I BeginRoyal Thunder - CVIThe Secret - Agnus DeiHigh on Fire - De Vermis MysteriisEvoken - Atra MorsMartyrdöd - ParanoiaConan - MonnosTitan - BurnNapalm Death - UtilitarianDordeduh - Dar de DuhWitch Mountain - Cauldron of the WildNachtmystium - Silencing MachineNihill - VerdonkermaanGaza - No Absolutes in Human SufferingUfomammut - Oro: Opus Primum & Opus AlterAMENRA - Mass V
They won't rank them (even though they obviously have the numbers to have pulled out the top 20 as voted by staff) as if they love all 20 equally. Please.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
this is exactly how communist Russia started
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
o do tell, dj mencap!
― t**t, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
From the equivalent thread last year:
... Are they kidding with this Vatican Shadow track?
― OH NOES, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:09 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean, I am not opposed to ambient but 10 minutes of unimaginative stasis as one of the best tracks of the year is just silly
― OH NOES, Tuesday, December 6, 2011 3:11 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― toby, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
(Apologies if I have usernames muddled up. Not sure why that stuck in my mind from last year, I think because that FACT end of year round up was when I got into him.)
― toby, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
Going back to that to see if I've changed my mind or not
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah, it was the fact that this track starts with 4 and a half minutes of undifferentiated synth washes that made me cranky, not so much about the track itself but holding it up in isolation as one of the best tracks of 2011
the tracks on Ghosts of Chechnya get to the point much, much faster, with sound textures I find more appealing, than the homogenously pretty wash going through the beginning of "Whitewashed Compound Stealth Helicopter Crash"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't that sold on him but 'Tehran Oil Pipeline Destruction Plot' was a total party rock anthem.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 29 November 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Jazz critic Ted Gioia's top 100:http://tedgioia.com/bestalbumsof2012.html
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
I do like that Zita Swoon Group album though the concept (Belgian indie fuxxors jam with musicians from Burkina Faso) might not inspire confidence around these parts. Also good to see the Vijay Iyer and Eyvind Kang albums turn up on a list.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
I still need to check that one out. Lots of non-jazz on his list--he's got Mickey Hart, David Byrne and others there.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh, John Mayer, Galactic
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 29 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
There will be a P&J, by the way. Who will or won't vote in it, I don't know, but I'll be tabulating. I'm going to vote, myself, and my tabulation process will definitely be simpler if I don't have to reconcile my votes with anybody else's.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
A Village Voice-run P&J, or can't you say?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to be mysterious. The Voice will be running P&J. I think ballots are probably going out fairly soon. I don't have anything to do with the editorial side, just the tabulation. (Since the demise of my previous work project I've rebuild the P&J stats for the last few years here: http://furia.com/pjs/. 2012 will be added after the results are published.)
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Who would one talk to about getting back in the ballot loop at P&J? A few years ago I got dropped from the list when the procedure changed, and never bothered to get back on it. It's not life or death, but I wouldn't hate being a voter again.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
i ain't doing no fucking pazz & jop. though i do love glenn mcdonald. if glenn owned the village voice i would totally do one.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure I'll get the invite soon enough. No idea if I'll participate in it or not.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 29 November 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
We need more metal critics voting in P&J. Do it for the bands!
xp Much respect to anyone who listens to 817 new albums in a year, let alone 600 or 400, but I disagree with his statement on the left sidebar, "I believe that the system of music discovery is broken in the current day." Compared to what, pre-internet when we only had a few print publications to recommend stuff? Gimme a break, man.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
Johnny, you can reach Brian McManus via http://blogs.villagevoice.com/email.php?to=3716&author_name=Brian+McManus.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
As for music discovery, yeah. Music "discovery" when I was a kid was my parents' car-radio, plus my friend who had more records than me, plus the statistical possibility that an 8-track from France might accidentally fall out of an airplane and land in my yard.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I was hit by a Charles Aznavour 8-track from the sky once. It's not a joking matter.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
if p&j were widely snubbed by critics do u think there would be any widespread recognition in the wider press? generally the best thing is not just the results but the essays & analysis, which, if they are handled by the current staff...
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
grimes best p4k album of the year easy bet, so maybe she won't
― black redhead (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Easy bet? Granted, it's harder to predict P4K results than it once was, but I'd be more comfortable saying it's Frank Ocean or Tame Impala.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
It'll be Frank Ocean
― Number None, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
It's always weird seeing people who are invested in dance music have a completely different take on what happened in a year than me. The only one of those I've heard is Lindstrom, which was just alright, but I don't really do techno (especially the drier end), and I'm bored of most house and disco. For me, the dance albums I've loved have been Young Smoke, LOL Boys, Mala, Nina Kraviz, Lone, Silkie & Quest, Terror Danjah, DJ Rashad. Yeah, I know a couple of those fall into the genres I mentioned before, but they seem like pretty different takes on them than what was listed. I'll just never understand what people get out of stuff like Andy Stott or Voices from the Lake.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever,
yes it fucking is .. and you know it ..
― mark e, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
i don't see grimes topping the p4k list yet would be surprised if it weren't at least top 5. my pet theory is that it'll either be kendrick or frank ocean to counterbalance bon iver last year. same reason why i don't think tame impala have a shot (also because their music is pretty bad)
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
rev, by "stuff like andy stott..." do you mean like specifically four-on-the-floor music that would never get played in a club, or spacey headphone electronic music in general?
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
(also because their music is pretty bad)
Well that's, like, your opinion, man.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
And bad music has never been known to top P4k's poll.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah yeah i know but i have a p good feeling about this
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's all part of my larger pet theory about how the site is trying to position itself in the new decade, based on editorial & staff choices in the past 2 years
― flopson, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
just checked out voices from the lake, it was very boring.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
i find it spellbinding when it's late at night or very early on a grey morning or when i'm hungover or ill
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
dance music wise, i think i returned to techno in a big way this year, a lot of what i was into 2009-11 began to really bore me
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
don't feel like reviving an old thread and would just like to state for the record that nothing and i mean NOTHING gets more of a reaction and more show of interest than when i put on an old Kompakt cd in my store. 3 and a half years of people coming in the store and its not even close. i had that first speicher comp on the other day and multiple people had that reaction i'm so used to now: what IS that? or what is THAT? young, old, hip, not so hip. its uncanny. it helps that they sound better than 80% of the CDs i own. i play them all day when i'm in the mood. will never get sick of them. feel kinda bad that i don't keep up with the label. they are the perfect "album" experience even when they are mixes. i love 12 inches too though...
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
scott - my favourite kompakt thing this year is this gorgeous kolombo single...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KK8KqlTdXkI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXR-99DL20
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
will listen! it helped that i actually used to live somewhere that carried all the CDs and vinyl as it came out. and when we moved i lost track. and i love buying the CDs because of that superior sound.
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
Lex OTM about the right setting for Voices From The Lake.
Any state where you're hovering in and out of sleep is pretty great for it too. I was first getting into it while I was in hospital in May and it was perfect.
― Tim F, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:59 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My interest in electronic music is very much (but not absolutely) driven by how it works as dance music, and I've never had any interest in ambient or ambient-leaning stuff at all. I can appreciate a couple tracks like that as setting pieces on a more dance-oriented album, but really only as the buildup to something greater. I'd never listen to a whole album in that vein. For non-dance-oriented music, I very much prefer r&b/rap.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
"We need more metal critics voting in P&J. Do it for the bands!"
i don't know if i've ever really considered myself a metal critic, but i'll take it! i mean a dude at a metal mag liked my stuff and it was fun while it lasted. i love metal, don't get me wrong...
my only new favorite metal album is the deiphago album. i'm out of the loop. everyone should buy it though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQ9g5rW5jg
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
no chance anything but Channel Orange tops P4k's list
― alpine static, Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny how our tastes intersect rev, i'm into almost everything on your list and have a deep interest in syncopated dance music, but my heart is really in that sweet spot where ambient/textural/etc meets dope beats, and i don't really care how they work on the dance floor (i mean i do, but i don't).
that said, anything that could be branded as "ambient techno" doesn't do it for me. i do like andy stott a lot and have no idea how he gets certain sounds, but don't love the new one as much as a lot of people seem to.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
would not vote P&J in a heartbeat if urged by the great old discarded staffers or asked to back some viable alternative but otherwise i just gotta. if everyone stopped voting in P&J the 'protest' wouldn't get any widespread recognition and the only real result would be Pitchfork taking an even bigger piece of the year end narrative pie.
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
what's the script re p&j and why are the voice noli mi tangere?
― jed_, Friday, 30 November 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
Deiphago is amazing!
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Thursday, November 29, 2012 3:09 PM Bookmark
When UK funky came about I said somewhere that a huge part of why I liked it was its very specific disinterest in sound design frippery! I think that also applies to some of the stuff I'm really into now like ballroom, jersey club, etc.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
I'm sure this is just a breakdown of the I'm a rhythm nerd, Lex is a sound design nerd thing. (Whereas you're both?)
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
I've had to find myself treating these two styles of dance music as utterly different beasts I guess. I listen to both, but it depends on my mood, the season etc
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah totallyxp
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
this goat thing is kicking my ass
― Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's like a rock band in a room or something
― Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
Voices From The Lake definitely aren't for everyone, and it definitely needs to be heard in specific settings. So it's not hard to see why critics haven't rallied around it like they did for more accessible techno albums in the past (e.g. Isolee, Justice).
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 30 November 2012 07:28 (eleven years ago) link
There was this Kompakt track from earlier in the year as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEDcNCuNFCc
― MikoMcha, Friday, 30 November 2012 07:37 (eleven years ago) link
That track's cool, but I would have gotten much more excited about it if it came out five years ago when that kind of piano house was first reemerging.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 08:01 (eleven years ago) link
Uncut Top 75 Albums:
1 Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas2 Bob Dylan - Tempest3 Jack White - Blunderbuss4 Dr John - Locked Down5 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange6 Bill Fay - Life is People7 Ty Segall & White Fence - Hair8 Grizzly Bear - Shields9 Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Psychedelic Pill10 Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball11 Tame Impala - Bonerism12 Go-Kart Mozart - On The Hot Dog Stands13 Dexys - One Day I'm Going To Soar14 Paul Buchanan - Mid Air15 Field Music - Plumb16 The Ty Segall Band - Slaughterhouse17 Grimes - Visions18 Sharon Van Etten - Tramp19 Neneh Cherry and The Thing - The Cherry Thing20 The xx - Coexist21 Beachwood Sparks - The Tarnished Gold22 Mark Lanegan Band - Blues Funeral23 Julia Holter - Ekstasis24 Allah-Las - Allah-Las25 Patti Smith - Banga26 Graham Coxon - A&E27 Alabama Shakes - Boys & Girls28 Paul Weller - Sonik Kicks29 The Chris Robinson Brotherhood - Big Moon Ritual30 Ry Cooder - Election Special31 Hot Chip - In Our Heads32 Richard Hawley - Standing At The Sky's Edge33 Micachu & The Shapes - Never34 Bobby Womack - The Braves Man In Universe35 Six Organs of Admittance - Ascent36 Sun Kil Moon - Among The Leaves37 Patterson Hood - Heat Lightning Rumbles In The Distance38 Lightships - Electric Cables39 Dirty Three - Toward The Low Sun40 First Aid Kit - The Lion's Roar41 Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes42 Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan43 Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Americana44 Sun Araw & M Geddes Gengras Meet The Congos - Icon Give Thank45 Japandroids - Celebration Rock46 Cat Power - Sun47 Anais Mitchell - Young Man In America48 Howlin Rain - The Russian Wilds49 Damon Albarn - Dr Dee50 Laetitia Sadier - Silencio51 Lana Del Rey - Born To Die52 Cate Le Bon - Cyrk53 PiL - This is PiL54 Yeti Lane - The Echo Show55 The 2 Bears - Be Strong56 Pond - Beard, Wives, Denim57 David Byrne & St. Vincent - Love This Giant58 Donald Fagen - Sunken Condos59 Father John Misty - Fear Fun60 The Liminanas - Crystal Anis61 Thee Oh Sees - Putrifiers II62 Ian Hunter & The Rant Band - When I'm President63 Calexico - Algiers64 Orbital - Wonky65 Nite Jewel - One Second Of Love66 Goat - World Music67 Cornershop - Urban Turban: The Singhles Club68 Woods - Bend Beyond69 Ty Segall - Twins70 Simone Felice - Simone Felice71 Lee Ranaldo - Between The Times And The Tides72 Rufus Wainwright - Out of The Game73 The Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Meat + Bone74 Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man75 Carter Tutti Void - Transverse
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
11 Tame Impala - Bonerism
― Neil S, Friday, 30 November 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link
Bonerism and Grizzly by Bear Shields are my favourite albums of the year
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link
Gotta give them some credit, until I saw their name I thought this was the waiting list at an erectile dysfunction unit.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link
shurely it should be "On the Hot Dog Streets" for Go-Kart Mozart as well?
― Neil S, Friday, 30 November 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link
I have no idea, I just c&p'ed from some other fool who typed it all in.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link
these typos shall not stand!
― Neil S, Friday, 30 November 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
I thought that Vatican Shadow album was going to be too bleak to hold my attention but I was completely hooked into it by the second track. It's actually very beautiful in a few places, the last track particularly so.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 November 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
well i loved Prurient's last album - really satisfying for industrial/electronics, and I'm really not a big fan of cold/harsh sounds on the whole.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
Kind of funny that the Cohen album is called "Old Ideas"
― Number None, Friday, 30 November 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
Bit late to the jazz picks discussion, but the Mojo top 5 sucks. Jazzwise isn't much better. That's the sort of boring, noodly stuff that gives people the idea that jazz is only something you listen to when you put up your clubbing shoes. Surely I can't be the only person to find most of what ECM puts out to be terribly polite and unexciting? Although in the Jazzwise list I do like the Django Bates album - ingenious, but not too clever, with some delightfully skewed rhythms and strong tunes. Robert Glasper seems to be hailed as some kind of hip-hop bad ass, but his stuff just sounds like the most polite end of 90s nu-soul, with a few post-bop flourishes. Roller Trio got the Mercury Nod, but it's has that problem with a lot of the UK rock/electronic influenced jazz - it's a bit muso and seems reluctant to kick up into top gear. It's not that everything has to be Thing style skronk 'n roll, but the best jazz-rock crossover stuff is that which taps into the ecstatic spirit of the music, rather than simply borrow some formal tropes.Cherry Thing isn't the best jazz album of the year, but when it works it's fantastic and I'm glad to see it cropping up on a few lists. As Ward Fowler said, it's not easy to pull of vocals and free jazz, but they nail it. Some of the best bits are the quieter tracks - the Suicide and MF Doom covers - but it's great to hear Neneh wailing while Gustafsson and co tear it up. I've still to hear the Thing & Barry Guy LP (ltd edition) but the live clips online are fantastic. Barry Guy's duo album with Liudus Makunis (sp?) is fantastic too - dude is one of the most inventive and powerful bassists around. Burning Ambulance list is pretty great (Charles Gayle LP fantastic) but no Brotzmann beyond Full Blast? He's had an incredible year and the Yatagarasu album is one of the best things he's ever done (the solo & Trio Roma double with Massimo Pupillo and Paal Nilsson-Love is incredible too. I appreciate that a lot of these come out on tiny labels and often get overlooked. I expect that one will probably get into the Wire's top 50 though. William Parker's Essence of Ellington and the David S Ware/Planetary Unknown live LP would be in there too. The latter was my number one, and not just for sentimental reasons - truly exhilarating, spiritual music.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 30 November 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
Clarification: by 'in there too' I mean my personal favourites, not the Wire list. Oh for an edit function...
Emily, that Thing/Otomo Yoshihide album is absolutely fantastic. Came out late last year on Smalltown Superjazz along with a (also great) Jim O'Rourke/Thing jam - both were recorded at the same venue in Tokyo. Yoshihide on guitar rather than turntable - and he absolutely shreds it. Might give it a spin later on, now you mention it.
Other good Thing related things this year... Paal Nilssen-Love has been one of this year's MVPs. In addition to the aforementioned Brotz platter, he's on the butt-kickin' new Lean Left (w Ken Vandermark & the Ex guitarists), the terrific Bobby Bradford set on No Business and no doubt a whole bunch of other stuff I've missed. Mats and Paal also did a very enjoyable record with Ethopian krar player Mesele Asmamaw. Oh, and latest Fire! album with Oren Ambarchi is a monster, with some primordial shrieks and baritone growls from Gustafsson and amazing guitar from OA which sounds like the Large Hadron Collider.
― Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 30 November 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
Bonerism is my deliberate typo to see who is C&P. A bit like a phantom street on a map.
― Mitchell Stirling, Friday, 30 November 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
Phantom boners of ILM
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
Afropop Worldwide hints at their list:
Fri. 11/30 10p: Join us for a festive Afropop Worldwide ritual, as Georges Collinet sits down with Banning Eyre to mull over the best new releases of 2012.
We'll hear from K'Naan, Staff Benda Bilili, Sierra Leone's Refugee Allstars, Mokoomba, Ondatropica, Alex Cuba, The Very Best, Janka Nabay.... As usual, Georges and Banning will run out of time long before they run out of tunes
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 November 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
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― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Also, is there a legacy act that put out an album this year (including Neil Young's two!) that Uncut didn't put on their list?
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
When UK funky came about I said somewhere that a huge part of why I liked it was its very specific disinterest in sound design frippery!
i don't know if this is true for the early days of uk funky, given how much it drew on house music with impeccable sound design!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
as for P&J, i guess i'm kinda with some dude except the idea of the essays being written by the current staff gives me the heebie-jeebies
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
xpNo John Cale and that was the best of the old timers.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, November 30, 2012 9:58 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm its classy high-end sound design was part of the appeal!
― D-40, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
and it was specifically a contrast to the grime that preceded it!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
There was a bit of both, the Perempay & Dee/Crazy Cousins end was pretty glossy but "high end sound design" is probably overstating it a bit. A lot of it was pretty rudimentary in its production values though although maybe not to grime levels.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
sure but on the super clean & sculpted tip, opposite end of the spectrum from anything dubby/blurry/post-burial etc, right?
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
For what its worth, Dylan and Womack both have a fair shot of making my Top 10.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
friday, 16:15, can i be bothered
nah it's all yours finney
― r|t|c, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
This year's best old-timers: Cohen, Cale, Womack, Cooder, Byrne and Dr John.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
the thing that gets me about the old-timer lists is that they don't even acknowledge young fresh'n'new artists in the same genres! like i'd love to see the mirel wagner album get some EOY love but i haven't seen it crop up anywhere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciBpDFjzl6I
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
xpost I will cheerfully shout for ZZ Top in the best old-timers category. But they are not respected and deep old timers, so no one gives a shit.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
xp You're missing the point - Uncut don't want young fresh'n'new. They want legends who are (a) still alive and (b) not disgracing themselves.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Death to Young Fogeys
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
nb dorian i think you'll REALLY like that mirel wagner song/album
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
No Scott Walker in the Uncut list, do they hate his record or is this more of a timing thing?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
Timing I reckon.
xp I'll certainly check out Mirel Wagner Lex. Thanks for the link.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Imho none of Byrne's melodies on the new one rival Talking Heads in their prime.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
I just ordered THIS: http://shop-hellsheadbangers.com/item.asp?PID=26326 thanks to Scott posting a video on Youtube. It better be good!
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Vincent steals the show on Love This Giant. Byrne's lyrics have had a tendency to come off a little trite and facile in recent years, and that puts me off a bit. I think it's a good album - solid 3.5 stars - and it helps I got given it on my birthday, so I made a point of acquainting myself with it properly. Some of the horn work is exceptional.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
I started a Mirel Wagner thread early in the year when I heard No Death, but it kind of petered out quickly. She'll certainly be on my ilm ballot.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
"Some of the horn work is exceptional."
You are Allan Jones and I claim my five pounds.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
lex i adore that mirel wagner album, but for some reason i thought it came out last year?
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Friday, 30 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
It came out last year in Scandinavia/Europe, but this year in US/UK iirc.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the Mirel Wagner is great. Goth as hell though and weirdly brittle sounding so I don't feel the urge to listen to it very often, but when I'm in the mood it's amazing.
― Matt DC, Friday, 30 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
That Uncut top ten is quite the old man list, 80% if you count Grizzly Bear and Jack White as honorary geezers.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 November 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! Thought the exact same thing re: Jack White when I read the list. That said, it's another one that might make my top 10. I, too, had a pretty geezer friendly year, it seems.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 30 November 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
oh the smallpeople recordhas Black Ice on it, that was one of my favs of last year....rest of album seems pretty understated, nothing partic jumping out but nice enough
― coal, Friday, 30 November 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not entirely comfortable with the idea that all these ancient dudes, as much as i like them, are making more important music than people of my generation. maybe this year is just a fluke in that regard but it looks a bit like laziness on the part of the writers to shoe-in so many classic names. i want year-end lists to point me towards cool new artists i missed, not remind me that bob dylan is awesome for the 900th time
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 November 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
wow mirel wagner! neverheardofher!
― scott seward, Friday, 30 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
is the whole album that good?
― scott seward, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
everything on the album sounds like that, in the best way (and it's a pretty short album too)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's a pretty uniform album soundwise, but some songs are better than others.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 November 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Why, every year, do people bother complaining that a magazine unashamedly aimed at middle aged white men picks albums of the year aimed at middle aged white men? It's like saying Good Housekeeping's best Christmas presents guide doesn't have enough bukkake DVDs.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
the lists from the narrow specialist mags are easily one of the most interesting things about these threads too
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
xp lex' complaint was that they magazine unashamedly aimed at middle ages white men missed out on an album by a new artist middle aged white men would love because they are preoccupied with releases by old artists though
― flopson, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Uncut used to cover a slightly more adventurous range of music. Martha Redbone is a new name for me. It sounds decent, certainly on par with the other folky singer-songwriter geezer type of albums being overrated. However, and this may not be fair, but it would sound more appropriate to me softly playing in the background of a cafe, yuppie coctail party or corporate event than on my stereo.
That Go-Kart Mozart album is quite an ordeal at 17 songs. It's just jarring for me to hear Lawrence's voice over the quirky, too-precious electro-pop after being a fan of Felt for so long. The Norman list got me excited about Gnod, BEAK>, Death And Vanilla and Cold Pumas, but none really stood out to me.
When I get home I'm gonna check out The Helio Sequence - Negotiations. Comparisons to Eno, Talk Talk, Roedelius and Manuel Göttsching have me interested.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Was more directed at ciderpress than Lex.
My guess would also be that declining print sales and the continued recession forces titles like Uncut to retreat even further into the safety of the core demographic. There aren't any new sales to be found, so it's more about keeping old readers.
That said, if Uncut's list was the result of an unmanaged vote, with no editorial postproduction, then it's spectacularly elderly. I know plenty of their writers personally like much more outlying stuff than that list suggests.
Declaration of interest: I was involved in the Guardian's list. There was a suggestion this year that it be managed, but thankfully we decided on an unmanaged vote in the end.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
If The Helio Sequence still sound like they used to, you're going to be disappointed. xp
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
jarring for me to hear Lawrence's voice over the quirky, too-precious electro-pop
Where have you been for the last... 15 years? That's what he's been doing for ages. I like the new album, not sure yet if it'll make my top 25, but it's pretty charming in that Lawrence-y way.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
Don't want to put you pn the spot here, but in what direction would a managed Guardian list be likely to go? How do you think it would have been different?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I did hear one other Go-Kart Mozart album and couldn't get into it either. I didn't say I was surprised. Maybe I hoped he'd changed his sound again. It just sounds wrong.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
I will agree with you that good Felt is easily his best. They did a few dodgy things but when they were up there, man, so far above both Denim and Go-Kart Mozart.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
xpost I don't know - I haven't been running it, just been a voter and seen everyone's individual lists and been sorting some of the content and production. As it is, the list ticks quite a lot of different boxes, so it might have been more a question of placings than a load of completely different albums. I think it's a pretty reasonable list, actually - by no means all to my taste. One thing I know from years of being involved with it, though, is that it doesn't take a big change to the voting base to make big changes to the outcome of the poll. This year there are a couple more R&B/dance favouring writers than there were two or three years ago. But had a three or four of the more "rockist" occasional writers been asked to contribute (to be fair, they may have been asked and not voted. I don't know) then I'm pretty sure some of Lex's favourites would have been a whole lot lower down.
Years ago, when I edited FourFourTwo, we did a poll of managers on who the best manager of all time was. We had a very good response - half the managers in England and Scotland voted – but it still only needed one third place vote to get to 20th place.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, November 30, 2012 7:58 AM Bookmark
The point isn't that it didn't have good sound design, but that it didn't seem overly focused on it as a pursuit in itself.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, 30 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks ithappens! I'm generally in favour of comments box outrage from dunderheads so I think the poll is panning out v nicely at the moment.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
not that anyone wants to jump back to that stupid indie/pop argument from a few days back BUT i was looking back at ilm's top 77 tracks of 2010 and we had arcade fire, ariel pink and robyn all in the top 10. ARIEL PINK BEAT THE-DREAM (with a great song, but still)
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
how are you classifying robyn there?
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
So two out of ten tracks were indie? Exactly what does that prove? (And Robyn may be 'pop that indie types like' but she isn't indie in any way, she's quite clearly a pop artist.)
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
well she's pop in sound, that's about it
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
also "somebody that i used to know" was no. 39 on the list last year and all the comments after it got posted are "huh?" and "i heard it's big in australia"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Robyn in 2010-2012 is mainstream enough, especially considering that a lot of the people voting her prob don't live in America
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Friday, 30 November 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
J0rdan, what's yr point with 'Somebody That I Used to Know'? It didn't hit the charts until this year, so it's not surprising people didn't know it then. (I'm assuming you're not invoking the pop/indie debate here, b/c it's definitely not the latter... it's more like Phil Collins or something.)
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
no yeah i just thought the gotye thing was funny
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah after it blew up i was like "ah come to think of it i had heard that song mentioned a lot the last few months"
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Friday, 30 November 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
― emil.y, Friday, November 30, 2012 5:50 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
half the ilm 2010 from top 10 was basically identical to what you would've seen at any indie rock-leaning magazine or website in that year -- robyn, ariel pink, arcade fire, janelle monae, big boi, kanye west. now that's only two artists that are "indie rock," but i think it proves that the idea that "poptimist ILM" wins out over everything else is basically nonsense
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 November 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
Um, wut? So you're saying that because poptimism has seeped into other organs of the press that... what, exactly? My only point was that lex was whinging (and in the end backed up that whinging with some pretty funny excerpts) about something that doesn't even really ring true any more. Your "evidence" pretty much backs that up.
― emil.y, Friday, 30 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i do hope "wut" has a pretty good showing this year
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Friday, 30 November 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think that the critical reactions to Kanye West or Big Boi or even Janelle Monae represent "poptimism seeping into" anything - these kinds of acts (self-consciously ambitious, auteurish black pop stars, to generalise wildly) have always had a lot of critical praise. "Poptimism" is irrelevent to the critical debate surrounding them because they'd have been a big deal in any era.
Re: UK funky - Rev OTM in that focussing on "sound design" just feels weird in the first place because it just isn't the point of the music. Generally I think the more spontaneous sounding the better.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 1 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Also Emily caricaturing the Lex's whole stance* as "poor victimised poptimist" kinda shows that you don't really get where he's coming from, because a) I don't think the Lex would ever self-identify as "poptimist" - not at any point in the last five years at least and b) his whole crusade is against the critical marginalisation of (predominantly) black artists who don't code as auterish, bohemian or vaguely arty.
Like I get that you resent people lumping in all of indie with, I dunno, Alt-J or whoever, but indie is still accounts for the vast majority of these lists even when it isn't any good/the sort of indie you like. The whole pop/indie binary debate feels kind of redundant any given that neither side can feel hard done by when you consider the dozens of genres that get little or no play in these things at all.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 1 December 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
*The Lex is easily caricaturable, admittedly.
his whole crusade is against the critical marginalisation of (predominantly) black artists who don't code as auterish, bohemian or vaguely arty.
A noble pursuit, but it always rubs me the wrong way (and others, I'm sure) when he goes about it in a manner such as "you people have it all wrong for liking ______ when you REALLY should be liking _____!" He typically rolls his eyes at any kind of "consensus" hip-hop/r&b/pop artist to garner some kind of fandom on ilm (and abroad) from non-goons and pop types and especially when white dudes with thrift store suits and beards mine r&b for new directions. Oh, and Robyn.
It's not that the rest of us don't know what's out there, but for whatever reason certain artists/albums launch discussion and appreciation more easily than others. I know how he feels a lot of the time, because I often feel like I'm the only person listening to a lot of what I listen to, but I don't chew anyone's ass for not liking what I like.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
when white dudes with thrift store suits and beards mine r&b for new directions
what is not eyeroll-worthy about this entire concept though
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Saturday, 1 December 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
It just needs to be assessed on a case-by-case basis.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, that was fresh in my mind because of the Poliça discussion the other day, and those guys were also members of Gayngs which brought about basically the same discussion a couple years ago. I like both of those groups and think what they're making is the result of a sincere appreciation for r&b and soft rock and not just some hilarious party trick.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
why do people always defend them on the basis that they really sincerely like r&b? i don't doubt their sincerity. they still suck.
i remember watching creep at fabric once, someone connected to both them and how to dress well came up to me and said, i know you love creep and hate HTDW, but as someone who knows them both, i can tell you that HTDW really loves r&b and always has done, but the creep girls never cared about it til recently. i was like, that's as may be, but creep still make fantastic songs and HTDW still deserves nothing more than to be flushed down the drainpipe he apparently recorded his music in.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
i don't doubt their sincerity.
afaik, this is the first time I've seen you write this. Maybe it wasn't you during the Gayngs discussion who said it was some kind of musical costume for these guys, but I remember that sentiment being expressed by somebody.
they still suck.
Opinions, assholes, etc.
What I've learned is that when you hate something, you really hate something and will prosecute anyone who might actually like that something to the fullest extent of your vocabulary.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
The whole pop/indie binary debate feels kind of redundant any given that neither side can feel hard done by when you consider the dozens of genres that get little or no play in these things at all.
True. Alt-J really do suck, though.
Well, what is? If your problem is entirely about the implications of white people appropriating a traditionally black musical culture, then I can understand it to a certain degree (the whole discussion on that particular matter is way too long for me to try to summarise here, though). If it's about the beards and thrift store suits, then you do realise that's shorthand to conjure up the dreaded straw man spectre of 'hipster', right? And actually neither beards nor clothes from charity shops are eyeroll-worthy in themselves (well, maybe beards...). But genre pilfering and combining has a long history and is responsible for some of the most interesting shifts in music there have been. If you find that eyeroll-worthy then your musical conservatism is just too insane to comprehend.
― emil.y, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
(well, maybe beards...)
As a beard-wearing human being, I am offended. :P
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
me too. Harumph.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
white rock musicians drew heavily on R&B and other black musicians for decades, rock music becoming its own white indie echo chamber is a relatively recent development. it's when they want a pat on the back for incorporating R&B influences or build their entire public persona on it that it becomes corny and tedious.
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
Reviewers and PR people ruin a lot of things before honest opinions about some bands and albums can even be formed. I keep using Gayngs as my example, but before I ever heard a note of that record I knew all about the "hipster r&b" aspect of it and constantly had to downplay that stigma in my mind while listening. If that hadn't been put there in the first place, I probably wouldn't even have drawn such a conclusion.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, but that's usually a problem with critical discourse around the band/artist, though, not nec. the band/artist themselves.
― emil.y, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
no artists are definitely overtly marketing themselves that way
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
i mean not all of them obviously, but definitely some
― trinidad jokes (some dude), Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
]i don't know if this is true for the early days of uk funky, given how much it drew on house music with impeccable sound design!
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Friday, November 30, 2012 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think Rev is correct on this one. Even the "glossy" and "classy" aspects of uk funky were directly opposed to the qualities that tend to be associated with "good sound design" in dance music today, even leaving aside that there's an implicit anti-retro assumption to "good sound design" (which, if it is present in retro-leaning music, is always the modernist/contemporary twist on whatever else is going on). The point being that "sound design" is a loaded term, suggesting qualities which, even if not actively disruptive, distract the listener away from the (mere) operation/progression of the groove or the song. If dance music has sound design which is essentially ignorable (even if glossy/classy/tastefully executed) then I don't think of it as meriting the term.
Julio Bashmore's "Au Seve" is 2012's model: crisp, tactile, a perfect house tune that sounds a lot nicer to me than most of Bashmore's previous work but could never be accused of investing in "good sound design".
In the case of Voices From The Lake the pendulum is swung pretty hard towards sound design and away from groove/song in the sense that it's difficult to frame the album as anything other than a "listening experience".
― Tim F, Saturday, 1 December 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
i still think of booka shade as the ne plus ultra of sound design
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Saturday, 1 December 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
distract the listener away from the (mere) operation/progression of the groove or the song
and i don't think booka shade's sound design did this at all
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Saturday, 1 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
I would totally agree that prime Get Physical was a case of everything coming together so well that it's difficult to separate out these qualities. But I don't think that disproves what I'm saying b/c if Get Physical had an explicit purpose (in its early days) it was precisely to blur the distinction between "efficient" dance music and sumptuous production.
Which certainly means they indulged in these tendencies in a manner far more subtle than say Herbert or Luciano or Isolee (though it's easy to forget that Booka Shade's first album was much more deep and less cheerfully anthemic than Movements - see "Vertigo" for example, a wealth of little rustles and ear-tickling sounds to get lost in), but still, if you can get lost in the details of the production then you're not just focusing on the groove/song. Glossiness in an early Crazi Cousinz tune is not something you can get "lost" in. Whereas Get Physical's sound design calls attention to itself - forces itself into the listener's consciousness - even while playing the role of power behind the (groove's) throne so consummately.
To be clear I'm certainly not suggesting some zero sum game where sound design is always at the expense of groove primacy, more that "good sound design" encourages a mode of listening focused on "good sound design", it's not incidental to the groove.
― Tim F, Saturday, 1 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
I think of minimal as one of those genres in general where sound design and groove really came together, functional music that was all about finding new ways to make the space in the room and the space between sounds really work. It helped that most of these producers were making tracks with Berghain or Fabric-level sound systems in mind.
Meanwhile a lot of post-dubstep in particular seems to value sound design over groove in the way that's to its detriment. Although Martyn's 'Ghost People' led to me wonder whether I'd have got more out of eg Night Slugs if they'd been better at sound design.
Whereas with funky a track could sound cheap as hell and it just didn't matter because the grooves and hooks and songs were just so irresistible. It didn't fanny around, basically.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 2 December 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link
really quite impressive sound design, i said to myself while fashioning a noose
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 September 2012 12:02 (2 months ago) Bookmark
― r|t|c, Sunday, 2 December 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
I know that Rate Your Music is polarizing to say the least, but here's the top 100 albums according to them (at least, as of this post):
1. Swans - The Seer2. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city3. Max Richter - Recomposed: Vivaldi - The Four Seasons4. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!5. Grizzly Bear - Shields6. Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind7. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel…8. Enslaved - RIITIIR9. Between the Buried and Me - The Parallax II: Future Sequence10. Tame Impala - Lonerism11. Deftones - Koi no Yokan12. Beach House - Bloom13. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music14. Dead Can Dance - Anastasis15. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch16. Ne Obliviscaris - Portal of I17. Änglagård - Viljans öga18. Neil Young - Psychedelic Pill19. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange20. Dr. John - Locked Down21. Anathema - Weather Systems22. Rush - Clockwork Angels23. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems24. Aesop Rock - Skelethon25. Dordeduh - Dar de duh26. Kälter - Ubuntu27. Wintersun - Time I28. The Tallest Man on Earth - There's No Leaving Now29. Threshold - March of Progress30. Be'lakor - Of Breath and Bone31. Jonny Greenwood - The Master32. Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes33. Bob Dylan - Tempest34. Death Grips - The Money Store35. Kamelot - Silverthorn36. Testament - Dark Roots of Earth37. Om - Advaitic Songs38. Big Big Train - English Electric (Part One)39. ∆ - An Awesome Wave40. AtomA - Skylight41. Aluk Todolo - Occult Rock42. El-P - Cancer 4 Cure43. Spiritualized - Sweet Heart Sweet Light44. Overkill - The Electric Age45. Shackleton - Music for the Quiet Hour / The Drawbar Organ EPs46. Mgła - With Hearts Toward None47. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers48. Borknagar - Urd49. Blut aus Nord - 777 - Cosmosophy50. Accept - Stalingrad51. Aeternam - Moongod52. iamamiwhoami - kin53. Goat - World Music54. Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pandora's Piñata55. In Mourning - The Weight of Oceans56. Various Artists - Moonrise Kingdom57. Circus Maximus - Nine58. High on Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis59. Macklemore and Ryan Lewis - The Heist60. Steven Wilson - Get All You Deserve61. Clams Casino - Instrumentals 262. Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory63. John Talabot - ƒIN64. Donald Fagen - Sunken Condos65. BADBADNOTGOOD - BBNG266. Raime - Quarter Turns Over a Living Line67. Killing Joke - MMXII68. Jack White - Blunderbuss69. Sigh - In Somniphobia70. Mount Eerie - Clear Moon71. Nas - Life Is Good72. Devin Townsend - Epicloud73. A Forest of Stars - A Shadowplay for Yesterdays74. Colour Haze - She Said75. Paradise Lost - Tragic Idol76. Dying Fetus - Reign Supreme77. The Flower Kings - Banks of Eden78. Evoken - Atra Mors79. Orden Ogan - To the End80. Tindersticks - The Something Rain81. Japandroids - Celebration Rock82. Lee Fields - Faithful Man83. Ty Segall & White Fence - Hair84. Neneh Cherry & The Thing - The Cherry Thing85. The Faceless - Autotheism86. Galneryus - Angel of Salvation87. Thee Oh Sees - Putrifiers II88. mewithoutYou - Ten Stories89. Steve Hackett - Genesis Revisited II90. Kreator - Phantom Antichrist91. Thank You Scientist - Maps of Non-Existent Places92. Katatonia - Dead End Kings93. Arjen Anthony Lucassen - Lost in the New Real94. Spawn of Possession - Incurso95. Chris Robinson Brotherhood - Big Moon Ritual96. Anaal Nathrakh - Vanitas97. The Gathering - Disclosure98. Sigur Rós - Valtari99. Headspace - I Am Anonymous100. Caspian - Waking Season
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 3 December 2012 07:38 (eleven years ago) link
(Was debating listing all 1000 just to see Whiney annotate it.)
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 3 December 2012 07:39 (eleven years ago) link
Matt otm
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 07:52 (eleven years ago) link
tbh there are def some ways in which our list will def differ from the rym one (Dawn Richard and Miguel will be top 5, Goat will be way higher) but I would be p happy if ILM albums list resembled that as a whole
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 December 2012 08:22 (eleven years ago) link
whats the Dr John album like?
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 3 December 2012 08:23 (eleven years ago) link
Is "sound design" in dance what we rockists call "arrangements"?
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 3 December 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link
RYM list looks pretty okay to me.
Done a lot of catch-up listening this weekend:
Alabama Shakes - Retro blues-rock int he style of the BellRays. Could stray to the wrong side of pastiche (the singer has one of those voices) if it wasn't so well executed.
Chairlift - Yeah, I've been listening to bits of it all year but never all the way through. Some of the vocal melodies on here are just wonderful; maybe yet another take on the eighties, this time reminiscent (i.e. pinched) from the Mac or the Pretenders or even some early-90s Beats International/Soul II Soul type thing, but somehow never boring. It always heartens me when a band who released a just-okay debut come back with a first-class follow-up.
Swans - So yeah, I finally discovered and fell in love with this album a couple of weeks back but listening to the acoustic demoes gives a whole new insight into this album.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 09:29 (eleven years ago) link
Fuckin' MAGNET's:http://www.magnetmagazine.com/category/best-of-2012/
Best Of 2012: World MusicMAGNET’s j. poet picks the best world-music releases of the year.
1 TriBeCaStan New Deli (Evergreen)2 Balkan Beat Box Give (National Geographic)3 Taraf De Haïdouks & Kocani Orkestar Band Of Gypsies 2 (Crammed Discs)4 Chicha Libre Canibalismo (Barbés/Crammed Discs)5 Samite Trust (Musicians For World Harmony)6 The Spy From Cairo Arabadub (Wonderwheel)7 Wahid Road Poem (BMP Blouzo)8 New York Gypsy All Stars Romantech (Traditional Crossroads)9 Bang Data La Sopa (rOckOliTo)10 Zdob Si Zdub Basta Mafia! (Asphalt Tango)
Best Of 2012: NoiseMAGNET’s Raymond Cummings picks the best noise releases of the year.
1 Penny Royale This Town (Sleepy Hollows Editions)2 Grasshopper The Day America Forgot (SicSic)3 Mike Shiflet Merciless (Type)4 Pauline Oliveros Reverberations: Tape & Electronic Music 1961-1970 (Important)5 Natural Snow Buildings Night Coercion Into The Company Of Witches (Ba Da Bing)6 Pacific 231 Scuffle (Nostalgie De La Boue)7 Various Artists Compilation For A Cat (no label)8 Neptune msg rcvd (Northern Spy)9 Marta Zapparoli Codex (Zeromoon)10 Lightning Bolt Oblivion Hunters (Load)
Best Of 2012: Hip HopMAGNET’s Elliott Sharp picks the best hip-hop releases of the year.
1 Kendrick Lamar Good Kid, m.A.A.d City (Interscope/Aftermath/Top Dawg)2 E-40 The Block Brochure: Welcome To The Soil 1, 2 & 3 (Heavy On The Grind)3 Future Pluto (Epic/A1/Free Bandz)4 Ab-Soul Control System (Top Dawg)5 Killer Mike R.A.P. Music (William Street)6 IamSu! Kilt (Dat Piff DL)7 Action Bronson Blue Chips (Fool’s Gold)8 Aesop Rock Skelethon (Rhymesayers)9 Main Attrakionz Bossalinis & Fooliyones (Young One)10 Big K.R.I.T. Live From The Underground (Island Def Jam/Cinematic)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link
Alex Ross's best classical albums in the New Yorker:http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/11/ten-notable-classical-music-recordings-of-2012.html
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link
Wire albums list news:
Hyperdub @HyperdubLaurel Halo #1, Dean and Inga #17, Cooly G # 41, DVA # 49 in the best albums of the year in @thewiremagazine - thankyou!
Anyone seen the full list?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
A little surprised to see Basta Mafia in the Magnet top ten, it's far from Zdob Si Zdub's best work. It's pretty good though.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Monday, 3 December 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
lmao laurel halo #1
poor senile old dorks scammed two years in a row
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
lololololol
dean & inga copeland is nearly as bad
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
listening to this Purity Ring album for the first time. not really sure if i'm slowly starting to like it or if my critical faculties are working overtime and preventing me from quite yielding. also listened to the Goat album earlier and can say that i dig it.
these lists always strike me as weird. just seems a bit arbitrary to me to get fanatical about ordering things before the dust has truly settled. if there's logic and a rigourous protocol to the numbering, then it's kind of lost on me. i can get behind the one (Decibel?) that had Converge at number one though.
― charlie h, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
Lol, that noise list would be diff if I made it now!
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
Not by too much, but still
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
I like the queasy sub-aquatic feel of the Laurel Halo record. It's very collage-like and there aren't lots of obvious hooks, but the textures and the layering and whole weird way it's lit work really well for me.
End of year lists are having a slight but noticeable effect on the UK album charts: Goat #27, Grimes #35http://www.officialcharts.com/record-store-albums-chart/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
Raymond: great to see Natural Snow Buildings on yr list!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
didn't know there was a new Neptune record, cool
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
that's p cool about the Goat album racing up the charts. I think Tame Impala are also seeing that effect.
― Neil S, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
Tame Impala is actually on its way down though!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
Django Django otoh is a new entry @ 22
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
...and that's been out for months and months right?
ah okay, obv didn't pay enough attention. I guess that Tame Impala record hasn't been out so long so might be dropping after its first promo push.
― Neil S, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
I despise Alex Ross, but here are his notable classical releases of 2012
Feldman is the only release worthy of note for historical reasons.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
FACTmag begins...
http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
hope u liek clicking
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
Dummy have started their top 10 albums too, but it looks like they're being really slowcore about it and doing them one at a time. Good news for all you Dean & Inga fans:
http://dummymag.com/features/2012/12/03/10-dean-blunt-and-inga-copeland-black-is-beautiful/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
haha so far my takeaway from the FACT list is "huh, I should be reading FACT"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
note to self: never pay attention to FACT ever again
― OH NOES, Friday, 16 December 2011 17:46 (11 months ago)
― Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
Not listened to the Purity Ring album before. Kinda like Crystal Castles without the shouty noise?
xp haha
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
I am apparently the exact opposite person of who I was in 2011
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
I tend to think of Purity Ring as some weird intersection between CREEP and a flesh-eating fairy princess
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Vice:
50. Someone who's just been signed.
49. Someone who's already been dropped.
48. Rapper who has done things that would make Chris Brown cut off his dick in shame, but because they're not to anyone famous, they still count towards his grizzled street cred with Pitchfork readers who are too scared and confused by WSHH to get their news from source.
47. Whatever Thom Yorke has blessed this year.
46. "Never heard of it."
45. "I've heard of it, but not actually gotten around to hearing it yet."
44. "Worst thing I've ever heard."
43. Kendrick Lamar.
42. Band who mistakenly believed they'd be given a big post-Olympics popularity boost by their very public decision to tell Danny Boyle and his Opening Ceremony to go fuck themselves.
41. Artist whose raw public confession of homosexuality wasn't quite as good as Frank Ocean's because he had the misfortune not to work in a genre that hates gays.
40. Peaking Lights
39. Woman compared to Kate Bush because of key overlaps: 1) being a woman, 2) singing, 3) giving the impression that she has difficulty coping with life.
38. Woman praised in copy for "striking a blow for modern femininity", a blow that so far consists of making mediocre indie-pop about past boyfriends.
37. Mac DeMarco
36. Album that everyone suddenly seems to be talking about like they've been into it for ages, despite the fact that you've never heard anyone other than the Quietus say a damned word about it, and never will again after 31 December.
35 – 31. Five acts who have all slept with someone who has slept with Swim Deep.
30. People voting for Django Django who meant to vote for Alt-J.
29. People voting for Alt-J who meant to vote for Django Django.
28. Act who changed name and moved to Montreal to make deep house two years after changing name and moving to Brooklyn to make witch garage two years after moving to Portland to make Apple advert indie.
27. Band who had the good fortune to be alphabetised in everyone's iTunes immediately after Grimes, leading to crucial "left it running" plays.
26. The much-feted return of a "living legend" who, despite enjoying a good feting, has mainly spent the past few months praying that no one finds out what happened in his Top Of The Pops dressing room in March 1973.
25. A "shadowy" post-dubstep producer, who spends his days cold-calling pensioners on behalf of EDF Energy.
24. Artist whom music journalists have decided to love because their former career as a journalist means that there's still hope for everyone's thwarted and stalled creative ambitions, #GodGetMeOutOfThisWakingNightmare.
23. Something on Not Not Fun that was recorded in a pristine, state of the art studio – in which the band were playing next door in the bogs for that authentic lo-fi sound.
22. Someone who might have been in Odd Future, but trying to deny it now.
21. Canadians making Canadian Music.
20. Toy
19. A bunch of super-smart, snot-nosed, wet behind the balls students whose lyrics seem to infer that they have had sexual intercourse, whereas one listen to the way they sing them confirms that they surely haven't.
18. Album that writer breathlessly describes as having "deconstructed pop", but which simply reflects the fact that said writer doesn't listen to much pop nowadays and is astonished at genre-blending that anyone with a working knowledge of Radio 1 will have long since taken as standard.
17. Beach House
16. Someone who once shared a cab with Kevin Parker.
15. Band who have released an "amusingly arch" record that they'd be mortified to hear described as such, because in fact they were being deadly serious and are just incredibly pretentious.
14. Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen
13. Fiona Apple or Cat Power
12. Dirty Projectors or David Byrne
11. "Sun-dappled dream-popper" who in truth only ever dreams about killing animals with a spade.
10. The xx or Chromatics
9. Album whose appraisal involved the editor having to do a ctrl+F to make damn sure she'd rooted out every last appearance of the word "shimmering".
8. Space reserved for old black legend being rebooted for modern coffee tables by Richard Russell.
7 – 2. The six highest-ranking albums of the year on Pitchfork that lazy hacks swotted up on to obscure the fact that they basically spent 2012 listening to nothing but real music, i.e. Muse and The Vaccines.
1. Album Of The Year: Mumfords (Q), Kendrick Lamar Spector (NME), Sven Vath (Mixmag), Andy Stott (Resident Advisor), Neil Young (Uncut), Neil Young (Mojo), Neil Young (Classic Rock), Neil Young (Home & Garden), people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (The Wire).
― Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
LOL!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ explicit reference to lil reese
― D-40, Monday, 3 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
implicit
people humming transcendentally over distorted tape loops of concrete being laid (The Wire)
Would listen
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds more promising than Laurel Halo anyway
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
purity ring record is my favorite discovery from list-time so far, it's right in my wheelhouse
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Guardian also doing a top 10 slowroll: #10 is Bobby Womack
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
People don't like Laurel Halo any more all of a surgeon? I never even got the chance to hear it.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, December 3, 2012 4:00 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM
― emil.y, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, I'm kind of tempted to try to make that record.
― emil.y, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
Laurel Halo is not bad imo, just kind of ok and I haven't felt like listening to it in months.
― ILM Communication (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, does Magnet cover all that stuff now? I'd check it out again if they've expanded coverage from their alt/indie niche.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
^ my question too. my guess is they don't *actually* cover that stuff regularly, but make end-of-year lists. hope im wrong
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
^^^We're getting there
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Weingarten, Inc.'s list is out:
http://www.spin.com/articles/best-albums-2012
1. Frank Ocean2. Kendrick Lamar3. Japandroids
someone else will have to type the rest out ... kudos to SPIN for making it so I can flip back to #1 immediately rather than having to go thru 50 clicks!
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Big difficulty in covering rap/noise in print mags that pride themselves on timeliness and require huge lead times: dearth of early promos. Indie rock: really ace at getting stuff into people's hands super early
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
yowza, that nsfw at #12 was a shocker (Deth Gripz). hadn't seen the actual cover till now...
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Was going to moan about Spin's top three, but then... DJ RASHAD at 4!
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
the khia album is so much better than the kendrick album as far as 2012 hip-hop goes
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, December 3, 2012 10:43 AM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL
― D-40, Monday, 3 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
*leans forward, puts chin on fist*
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
a+ whiney blurb on that fun. record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, December 3, 2012 4:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you can KEEP your critdude consensus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
all i know is the khia album is everything i have been desiring in rap and have missed and i am jamming it as incessantly as i have any album i've heard. INSTANT CLASSIC
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
did kendrick have a 6-min smooth r&b jam called "dickmatize"? I DON'T THINK SO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KSQgVxe4Y4
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
did he need one?
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
really bumming that a great rap album wasn't broken up by a 6-minute r&b song
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
could've subbed out that boring don't kill my vibe one for a 6-minute anything and it'd have been an improvement
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, December 3, 2012 11:47 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
wait don't you like the kendrick lamar album
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
this is a stupid conversation
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
i need to check if the applecare expired on my iLex
i do like the kendrick, i don't think it's worthy of the encomiums, it might scrape my top 20 whereas khia has gatecrashed my top 5 with an unhesitating and firm bullet
also none of you have heard the khia album and your lulz are literally solely based on prejudice and belief that the consensus is inherently correct
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
really you could sub ANY hyped 2012 rapper for kendrick and khia would be better
the stuff the hip-hop world has recommended this year has not been up to scratch
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
apart from angel haze who i note is also missing from many rap lists
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha so the Khia album starts out with a sweary skit set to the beat from "The Motto"
total Lex-bait
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
my rapping vagina puppet is going to drop an album on December 1st next year and totally rearrange lex's year-end list
― these markers love soda (some dude), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
"For Real" is reminding me of the lyrical breadth of Chief Keef
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
xpost well that's my teenage dream ended.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
did chief keef threaten to snatch your fake breast out? NO
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't even notice that line, mostly because I was amazed at the number of times she said "muthafuckas for real" in a row
2nd track is budget Missy circa Under Construction
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Gorilla vs. Bearhttp://www.gorillavsbear.net/2012/12/02/gorilla-vs-bears-albums-of-2012/
1. Grimes – Visions2. Chromatics – Kill For Love3. Kendrick Lamar – good kid, m.A.A.d city4. Burial – Kindred5. Jessie Ware – Devotion6. Schoolboy Q – Habits & Contradictions7. Beach House – Bloom8. Tops – Tender Opposites9. Miguel – Kaleidoscope Dream10. Chairlift – Something11. Killer Mike – R.A.P. Music12. Grizzly Bear – Shields13. Laurel Halo – Quarantine14. Holy Other – Held15. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland – Black is Beautiful16. Frank Ocean – Channel Orange17. Jessica Pratt – Jessica Pratt18. Frankie Rose – Interstellar19. Symmetry – Themes For An Imaginary Film20. Andy Stott – Luxury Problems21. Chromatics – Running From the Sun22. Angel Olsen – Half Way Home23. Clams Casino – Instrumentals II24. Nicolas Jaar – Don’t Break My Love / The Prism25. Fort Romeau – Kingdoms26. Dawn Richard – Armor On27. Tamaryn – Tender New Signs28. Shackleton – Music For the Quiet Hour29. Mirroring – Foreign Body30. Flying Lotus – Until the Quiet Comes31. Phedré – Phedré32. LOL Boys – Changes33. Roc Marciano – Reloaded34. Fight Bite – Fight Bite35. Sam Flax – Age Waves36. Dum Dum Girls – End of Daze37. Lower Dens – Nootropics38. Las Malas Amistades – Maleza39. Lace Curtains – The Garden of Joy and the Well of Loneliness40. Ryan Hemsworth – Last Words + Collected41. Taken By Trees – Other Worlds42. Ariel Pink’s Haunted Graffiti – Mature Themes43. Antwon – End of Earth44. Pye Corner Audio – Sleep Games45. Molly Nilsson – History46. Peaking Lights – Lucifer47. Death Grips – The Money Store48. Pure Bathing Culture – Pure Bathing Culture49. Theesatisfaction – awE naturalE50. Sand Circles – Motor City
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
basically I feel like you're going "all of this music is bullshit, you should listen to THIS *points at more bullshit*"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
That's not a bad list really.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
that's lex's whole schtick
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
38. Las Malas Amistades – Maleza49. Theesatisfaction – awE naturalE50. Sand Circles – Motor City
I liked these albums well enough to be happy they got picked up somewhere. Otherwise no great surprises beyond the continuing absence of Animal Collective.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
anyway I turned it off and went back to Elle Varner
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
8. Tops – Tender Opposites
Anyone know what this is?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
ha, was just about to ask that.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
damn gorilla vs bear taking a bold stand against frank ocean
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
― Tim F, Monday, December 3, 2012 5:11 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
only nearly half of the top 10 is awful?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, December 3, 2012 12:14 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark
hit xvideos and lemme know
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
xpost so you'd agree it's the best list so far.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
Not half, just 3.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
http://open.spotify.com/album/42qdevk4wy09wv0FtWC0fF
Tops - Tender Opposites
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Tops albums is just eighties pastiche, handled ineptly.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
tops are another montreal arbutus band, pretty bad imo
― flopson, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
GvB probably the only non-lex-associated list to rate Dawn?
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/10002345/Fr+immer+Du.jpg
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
I was really digging the first song on the Tops album for about a minute, but then it went on for another 2 and I got bored
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
^ are those the right guys? xp
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah basically my experience, the singer is pretty awful too
― flopson, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.minus.com/iUkjhpTN58Lqm.gif
― cozen, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
Did we all see nabisco otm's list:
http://www.vulture.com/2012/11/nitsuh-abebe-top-ten-albums.html
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
"I Belong In Your Arms" will make my own list but I couldn't make it through the rest of the Chairlift record.
Glad he put Ware on his list.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
If you could monetize having your album compared to Sade, Ware would finish 2012 rich
― flopson, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
nitsuh's is a decent list (barring cloud 0s)
― cozen, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Ugh, really? Evans the Death? They sound like fucking Echobelly.
― emil.y, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
That's bad?
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Yes. Very bad.
― emil.y, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not surpised to see Grimes on these lists, but can't exactly figure how this is the best of the year. To me, the Grimes album is decent, but a bit amaturish and underproduced. I enjoyed it early on but reached the point of diminishing returns months ago.
― Moodles, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
tbf, haven't heard (of) Evans the Death, but "sounds like Echobelly" doesn't automatically turn me off ("sounds like Sleeper" might be better tho)
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
but a bit amaturish and underproduced
part of the charm imo. haven't listened to it for awhile except for the singles though.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I would like to replace every occurrence of Grimes with Farrah Abraham
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
"sounds like Sleeper" might be better tho
Ha, "sounds like Sleeper" would have me shooting myself in the face. You should probably give them a go.
― emil.y, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
I'd like to replace every occurrence of Grimes and Purity Ring with Tinashe and Chromatics.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
do you know how to code?
― J0rdan S., Monday, 3 December 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
Purity Ring can stay, I love that album
I keep forgetting there was yet another fantastic Lone album this year
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, December 3, 2012 5:42 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
in every EOY list, in every itunes, in every inch of coverage
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
KattWillFerrell is the best twitter ablxxounlll
8. Tops – Tender OppositesAnyone know what this is?― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, December 3, 2012 12:14 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmarkhit xvideos and lemme know --J0rdan S.
hit xvideos and lemme know --J0rdan S.
I just played myself laughing out loud in the sub shop over this
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't know Nabisco is Nitsuh!
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
SPIN's 50 Best Albums of 2012
01 FRANK OCEAN - CHANNEL ORANGE (DEF JAM)02 KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID, M.A.A.D CITY (TOP DAWG/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE)03 JAPANDROIDS - CELEBRATION ROCK (POLYVINYL)04 DJ RASHAD - TEKLIFE VOL. 1 - WELCOME TO THE CHI (LIT CITY TRAX)05 MIGUEL - KALEIDOSCOPE DREAM (RCA)06 BAT FOR LASHES - THE HAUNTED MAN (PARLOPHONE)07 SWANS - THE SEER (YOUNG GOD)08 KILLER MIKE R.A.P. MUSIC (WILLIAMS STREET)09 TY SEGALL - TWINS (DRAG CITY)10 SANTIGOLD - MASTER OF MY MAKE-BELIEVE (DOWNTOWN/ATLANTIC)11 FUTURE - PLUTO (A1/FREE BANDZ/EPIC)12 DEATH GRIPS - NO LOVE DEEP WEB (SELF-RELEASED)13 CLOUD NOTHINGS - ATTACK ON MEMORY (CARPARK)14 GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR - 'ALLELUJAH! DON'T BEND! ASCEND! (CONSTELLATION)15 BARONESS - YELLOW & GREEN (RELAPSE)16 FIONA APPLE - THE IDLER WHEEL IS WISER THAN THE DRIVER OF THE SCREW AND WHIPPING CORDS WILL SERVE YOU MORE THAN ROPES WILL EVER DO (EPIC)17 GRIZZLY BEAR - SHIELDS (WARP)18 KING TUFF - KING TUFF (SUB POP)19 TRAXMAN - DA MIND OF TRAXMAN (PLANET MU)20 PALLBEARER - SORROW AND EXTINCTION (PROFOUND LORE)21 DAPHNI - JIAOLONG (MERGE)22 TORCHE - HARMONICRAFT (VOLCOM)23 DIRTY PROJECTORS - SWING LO MAGELLAN (DOMINO)24 CAT POWER - SUN (MATADOR)25 ACTION BRONSON - BLUE CHIPS (FOOL'S GOLD)26 TAME IMPALA - LONERISM (MODULAR)27 SLEIGH BELLS - REIGN OF TERROR (MOM + POP)28 JESSIE WARE - DEVOTION (PMR/ISLAND)29 DINOSAUR JR. - I BET ON SKY (JAGJAGUWAR)30 FRANKIE ROSE - INTERSTELLAR (SLUMBERLAND)31 THE XX - COEXIST (YOUNG TURKS)32 GOAT - WORLD MUSIC (ROCKET)33 THEE OH SEES - PUTRIFIERS II (IN THE RED)34 MALA - IN CUBA (BROWNSWOOD)35 JACK WHITE - BLUNDERBUSS (THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA)36 BEAK> - >> (INVADA)37 R. KELLY - WRITE ME BACK (RCA)38 TAYLOR SWIFT - RED (BIG MACHINE)39 ROC MARCIANO - RELOADED (DECON) (JS)40 ANIMAL COLLECTIVE - CENTIPEDE HZ (DOMINO)41 PURITY RING - SHRINES (LAST GANG/4AD)42 LINDSTRØM - SIX CUPS OF REBEL (SMALLTOWN SUPERSOUND) AND SMALHANS (FEEDELITY)43 KATHLEEN EDWARDS - VOYAGEUR (ZOË/ROUNDER)44 DEFTONES - KOI NO YOKAN (REPRISE)45 NICKI MINAJ - PINK FRIDAY: ROMAN RELOADED (YOUNG MONEY/CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC)46 SPOEK MATHAMBO - FATHER CREEPER (SUB POP)47 METRIC - SYNTHETICA (MOM + POP)49 BEST COAST - THE ONLY PLACE (MEXICAN SUMMER)49 HEEMS - NEHRU JACKETS (GREEDHEAD)50 FUN. - SOME NIGHTS (FUELED BY RAMEN)
Lol at ILX mobile posting half finished post about @KattWillFerrell
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I don't hate the Grimes album but I'm kind of pleased to see it not make that list, while Baroness, Torche and Pallbearer did.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
KUDOS FOR NICKI! first list to acknowledge that it's actually really good
kudos for santigold too, no 10 seems high but it's been weirdly overlooked elsewhere considering how strong the strongest cuts on it are
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
I was glad to see Chairlift as his #2; it will likely be my own #1.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I was surprised to see Santigold there - it's been ignored everywhere else - but the good tracks are great. Same goes for Chairlift.
From the bottom of Nitsuh's list (though not written by Nitsuh):
Lana Del ReyJanuary’s most controversial pop starlet was old news by February.
Yes, unless you count selling over 2 million albums.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
The Lone album is great! Probably in my top 5 for the year.
Many xposts...
― Moodles, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
DJ Rashad at #4 is GOOD LIST-MAKING.
― a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
The Chairlift album has maybe two low points in the whole thing. Not keen on that lyric about runnin people over in a car, and that last one Guilty As Charged but on the whole it's jam packed with neat little flourishes and catchy tunes. The Talabot remix of I Belong is also great and should have been a bonus track
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
I went through about three tracks on the Chairlift album thinking "oh hey, this is really nice" and then I hit a wall and desperately needed to play something else
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Talabot remix is better than anything on the album imo.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
despite not really being A-game Talabot.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm listening to this Lone album right now and it's setting me on edge. FIND THE BEAT, A-HOLES!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
I Belong, Take It Out on Me, Ghost Tonight and Met Before are all killer. In a different era they'd have enough material to be pop stars.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
... what?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
I would add Amanamonesia (sp?) to DL's list but otherwise OTM.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
The time signatures of the drums/percussion seem to be absolutely random much of the time. That's probably not true, but they're more complex than I feel like bothering with. xp
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
I definitely rc enjoying that Lone album, should probably revisit it at some point.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
The beats on the Lone album are definitely highly syncopated, but they don't strike me as particularly random
― Moodles, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
you have got to be kidding
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even like "I Belong In Your Arms," but the Talabot remix is the best remix I've heard this year.
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Feeling kinda bad for Animal Collective.
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Is Sharon Von Etten making a lot of lists?
fewer than Grimes but more than like Kathleen Edwards
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
#ladies
I really live Sharon Von Etten, but I think the new one is mostly boring. I don't feel like she needs to be catering to the Paste crowd.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
xxpost
Damn shame, as that Kathleen Edwards record is solid.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
Animal Collective really blew it this time, huh? They haven't even enjoyed any of the post-breakthrough momentum that disappointing follow-ups often get (hello The xx).
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
Dude, MPP was "post-breakthrough" like three albums deep
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
idk, I think its fair to call MPP another level of breakthough, i mean like NPR audience level breakthrough
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
It's cool, I'm not a rhythm ace. I just don't find that kind of madhouse dodging of 4/4 too enjoyable.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
xp How so? It got way more attention and sales than any of their previous albums.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
THERE IS NO DODGING OF 4/4 ON THE ALBUM, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SONG IS IN 4/4
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
Uncut sure loves the hell out of Ty Segall, with three of his albums in their list. I agree with Spin that Twins is the best one. When I first heard his name a few years ago, I that he was a rapper, lol.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
AnCo "broke through" in like 2004. They used that momentum to break through higher and higher places (like NPR) over the course of two or three more albums over half a decade of work
The XX hit paydirt first time out and now are following up on it. The analogy doesn't work
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, DJP. Fine. Whatever. It still makes me squirm and want to put on, like, AC/DC or something so I know that up is up and down is down.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
is whiney doing his leftfield/noisy shit list this year y/n?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
ty segall name always makes me want to start a woozy britronica group called SEAGULL I THANK YOU.
cuz those kinds of names are popular these days.
― scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
xpost y
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
good man!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
new sad borad description:
"Feeling kinda bad for Animal Collective."
― scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp Do I need to spell it out? The career paths are not the same but the situation of following a big-selling, widely acclaimed, NPR-wooing indie album with a muted, poorly received one three years later is similar. I'm not going to waste time arguing about what does and doesn't count as a breakthrough.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
... Coexist wasn't poorly received, unless you are just looking at a small subset of the critical reaction?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
You apparently had to spell it ot because I had no idea that you meant that. Neither one of those records was especially "poorly recieved" though
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Coexist is currently rating a 79 on Metacritic, how does that translate to "poorly received"?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
MPP reached a lot of people who were never going to be into Centipede Hz, I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
because we have Grimes now...
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
<b>GRIMES</b>
i def got the impression that coexist had a lukewarm reception (not just here but among UK critics) but perhaps not
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
it had a lukewarm reception on ilx iirc
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah, and then everyone else gave it an 8
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
That Spin list is pretty good. It's just occurred to me I have no idea what Japandroids sound like at all.
The strongest songs on that Santigold album were great but the record as an entirety was kind of an uninspiring 6/10 and I'm surprised enough people rated it highly enough to vote it into the top 10 in any list. I can't imagine it inspiring sufficient love or hate really.
― Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
I pretty much adore the entire Santigold album and don't get why people hate any of the songs on it.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
It's not hate (as least not in my case). It's just..."oh, that's nice". Matt DC otm with uninspiring.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i don't get the (muted) enthusiasm for japandroids (there and elsewhere i've seen), i haven't been able to get into that album. i think it's retroactive praise for people who missed praising their first album.
― j., Monday, 3 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
every song being "oh that's nice" as opposed to controversial or hot --> long term critical success
― mh, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Any Irish polls been announced yet? Be interesting to see how Frank O'Shane has gone down in the old country with his collection of loyalist ballads.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I had high expectations for the Japandroids LP. I'm psyched that people are into it because I think they deserve their success, but IMO the energy on the 2010 singles and the 2009 full-length seemed a lot more genuine.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
or more natural, and less labored...
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
no one is liking the new titus andronicus album? did it get any chatter on ilx?
― Mordy, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
xp Like seandalai says: "I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists." MPP was a P&J-winning album that got rave reviews across the board - CHz, without being an obvious dud, is hardly registering a mention. Something similar happened to TVOTR last year and I see it happening to a lesser extent with the xx. Metacritic doesn't tell you much because there are a lot of over-generous critics out there and if you're a certain kind of band you have to deliver a real turkey to get less than 70.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
IMO CHz is way better than Dear Science.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
SPIN has a section called "Worst New Music."
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
no, 'nine kinds of light' (?) would be the analogue.
― j., Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, exactly. Using P&J as a very rough measure of EOY consensus, Dear Science was #1 and Nine Types was #43.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I didn't really care about Dear Science or Nine Kinds of Light. I especially don't understand Dear Science getting P&J/SPIN "album of the year" back in the day.. While "Centipede Hz" I think is simply getting forgotten for being less-than-outstanding even though it's full of well executed ideas.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Any noteworthy singles/tracks lists floating around?
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
Popmatters started their 'best songs of 2012' list today.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ours will be next month, and I firmly believe it's the best list of its kind on the internets.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
(Albums, too...maybe, but especially tracks.)
The ILX list? Yeah, of course, but in the meantime I'm looking for some stuff to fill up my personal one.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I just gave the Popmatters list a looksee. I appreciate the effort, I guess, but there's a ton of "blah" on there.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Popmatters didn't rank "212" last year I guess? And then shoved it in at #65 this year?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, Popmatters list isn't anything to get excited about, but I thought I'd throw it out there as an option. They typically play it a little too indie-centric for my tastes, but they have a handful of great metal writers that make it worth my visit. I'm far more interested in their genre lists.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Monday, December 3, 2012 8:55 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
last year's was so amazing. once more: http://imgur.com/a/gCkic
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
anyone gonna have starkey's orbits on their lists? top 10 album for me
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
When does the ILX EOY nom process start?
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't set a date yet; I guess next week?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'll probably kick the thread off a week from Friday (that will be the 14th).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
roger that
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
anyone gonna have starkey's orbits on their lists? top 10 album for me― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, December 3, 2012 4:14 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, December 3, 2012 4:14 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ciderpress, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Not the usual suspects here (lots of jazz/fusion/classical/folk/etc):
http://tedgioia.com/bestalbumsof2012.html
― o. nate, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend)
Agree with this, listened to it the other day and enjoyed it so much more than I remembered. The Keepers, Disparate Youth, This Isn't Our Parade and The Riot's Gone are some of the best songs of the year.
I'm pretty gutted iamamiwhoami's Kin has only made the RYM list so far, guess it's going to be this years ignored masterpiece like When Saints Go Machine was last year. Hopefully it can squeeze into the ILM list like that did. I think it has stronger tunes than Grimes, less filler than The Chromatics and more variety than Purity Ring. I like those albums but Kin blew them away.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Possibly on my tracks list
http://m.soundcloud.com/opponents/lucid-dreams
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
iirc The Wire gave both the Laurel Halo album and the Sun Araw/M Geddes Gengras/Congos album negative reviews when they came out, so it's interesting that they (reportedly) top their year-end list.
speaking of Sun Araw, I think his better album from this year was The Inner Treaty, which could be his best yet
― Dan S, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not even going to comment...
Best Of 2012: Indie Rootshttp://www.magnetmagazine.com/2012/12/03/best-of-2012-indie-roots/
MAGNET’s Devon Leger picks the best indie-roots releases of the year.
1 Mumford & Sons - Daytrotter Stopover Sessions (Daytrotter)2 Old Crow Medicine Show - Carry Me Back (ATO)3 Lake Street Dive - Fun Machine (Signature Sounds)4 Various Artists - The Hunger Games: Songs From District 12 And Beyond (Universal Republic)5 The Lumineers - The Lumineers (Dualtone)6 Black Prairie - A Tear In The Eye Is A Wound In The Heart (Sugar Hill)7 Rayna Gellert - Old Light (Story Sound)8 J.P. Harris & The Tough Choices - I’ll Keep Calling (Cow Island)9 Jay William Henderson - The Sun Will Burn Our Eyes (self-released)10 Joan Shelley - Ginko (Ol Kentuck)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
that hunger games sdtrk is legit good imo
― Mordy, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
xp Like seandalai says: "I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists." MPP was a P&J-winning album that got rave reviews across the board - CHz, without being an obvious dud, is hardly registering a mention. Something similar happened to TVOTR last year and I see it happening to a lesser extent with the xx. Metacritic doesn't tell you much because there are a lot of over-generous critics out there and if you're a certain kind of band you have to deliver a real turkey to get less than 70.― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:20 (2 hours ago) Permalink
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:20 (2 hours ago) Permalink
For me, AC were at one time my favourite extent band. I loved pretty much everything they did up to and including Feels, but under the Animal Collective name I've been consecutively disappointed with every album they released since Strawberry Jam. I've had a lot of time for their EPs and singles and various side projects since then, so it's not as though they don't have it in 'em any more or that my appreciation for their schtick has changed since I first learnt to like them. It's just that their frequently lauded LPs don't seem to cut the mustard. I never understood why MPP became their breakthrough album because if anything it was less accessible, more abstruse and more lyrically trite than anything they'd done before. It suffered from all the complaints the band might have (often unduly) received over the years and was IMO only made up of about 50% worthwhile material.
So it took me a while to pluck up the gumption to listen to Centipede Hz - I only listened to it all the way through for the first time the other day. Frankly my reluctance was justified. It's just not a very interesting record. I was pleased to hear they'd decluttered and ungritted their sound because TBF Merriweather was the production equivalent of one of those houses off of Hoarders - reverb and granular fx piled up like shitty newspapers in a kitchen where you have to climb through old vegetable choppings just to use the hob. But by peeling back the layers AC exposed themselves to have become, well, rather dull and ultimately sloppy at what they do.
But 2004's Sung Tongs (IMO their crowning achievement) was also stripped right back - acoustic guitars, hand drums, a few effects for variety - but that stuff was TIGHT, the rhythms were groovy, the song structures interesting, the vocals poised and harmonically original. When I first heard it I remember being happily confused until one day it all clicked and became one of my favourite indie records. Centipede Hz sounds, by comparison, like someone doing a bad AC impression - prospects which by all accounts do not bode well at all. The arrangements are clumsy; not in that same savantly-controlled skew-whiff way as before, just sloppy and obvious and tedious to the point you don't notice them unless they're being actively irritating. It doesn't feel like the kind of daring album you'd expect from a band who used to tour with Black Dice, release albums of super-slow acoustic dirges recorded on their front porch, and create multi-layered psych-noise records like Here Comes The Indian. It just blends in with the crowd, not doing anything particularly exciting and sounding pretty much like any other 2012 indie-psych album.
Part of the problem, I believe, is due to the sheer number of acts who now sound like AC. Back in 2004 I don't think there were really that many bands who sounded like them. Since then we've had bands who, while not exactly ripping them off, to my mind represent a more accessible, watering down of their ideas - Fleet Foxes, Bon Iver, Grizzly Bear, Ariel Pink, the whole freak folk and chillwave scenes - I kind of believe AC were responsible for catalysing all these things for better or worse. And yet I don't think that creating a scene was ever a deliberate intention with AC - they were just a band doing what they did while others fed off them for higher levels of acclaim.
MPP wasn't their best album - it just came out at the right time; a peak period when the music press and industry had their feet firmly plonked in grassroots quirky folk and hazy electronic rock - ironically thanks to the wave of influence AC initially helped kick off a few years prior. In a way they just managed to catch the crest of said wave and propel themselves towards wider critical attention.
But if the original AC fans such as myself have lost interest, and the folkies are more interested in listening to Shields or whatever, and the chillwavers have any multitude of bands to choose from that probably sound identical or better than a half-baked AC collection, and the hipsters are off seeking new thrills, why should Centipede Hz do well in these polls?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/154912
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
haha, rev
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
ok guys i have a high tolerance for bullshit but it's 2012 and for once we don't need to be talking about animal collective
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link
dammit
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
...is what i was trying to post :(
^ this! I welcome the respite.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
xp I didn't really care that AC were topping lists last time around, but it is nice to see someone feels the same way. I was excited about AC until about the same period in '04. It seems that their more experimental stuff was also somehow more listenable, probably because of the kitchen-sink issue of cramming the sound with too much . . . stuff.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
It's a similar problem I have to an extent with Flying Lotus and some other current albums.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
I'm gonna defend anybody's desire to go long form about whatever on ILM. So many of us (myself included) don't go long here anymore.
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
i grudgingly agree w/that, actually
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think the Santigold album is as wondrous as "The Keepers" and "Disparate Youth" but I'm glad it made somebody's top ten -- it's an idiosyncratic enough choice.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
ST = fell in love right away, never fell outFeels = warmed to it over time, fell in loveSJ = never cottoned MPP = fell in love right away, then got bored 2-3 months later, possibly due to overexposure (same thing happened with the last Spoon album)CHz = listened a couple times, didn't feel compelled to return other than obligation to write about it
Centepede is easier to admire than to like, and I never find myself missing ANY of it, at all, which sets it apart from every other thing AC has ever done.
The absence from lists makes sense but it still sucks.
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Note: I did heart Peaceabone and BrotheR Sport btw
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
it's 2012 and for once we don't need to be talking about animal collective
...is essentially a summary of what I posted ;-)
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
Also the pre-ST AC is dope need to revisit
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
Well, it is a story when one of the most critically lauded groups of the past decade falls off their perch. As Raymond says, the absence of AC on these lists is not inexplicable but it's not something that could have been predicted with certainty either. Not that it matters here but I rate CHz about the same as Strawberry Jam.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really like the pre Sung Tongs stuff. ST, Feels and MPP are all great, feel the same way as you about Strawberry Jam.
xp
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, December 3, 2012 4:14 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I was being a dick, but it was more his topic than the length of his post I was reacting to.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
I'll add Fireworks to Strawberry Jam. Until Centipede they've always had a few notable gems on each album, but this is the first one I just feel ambivalent about on every track.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah was thinking about adding a Fireworks caveat to the SJ comparison, it's better than anything on CHz. Today's Supernatural and New Town Burnout are, I think, the keepers on the new one.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
That Death Defying Unicorn album someone posted upthread is insane and cool
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
they're so horrible. animal collective sound to me like what i imagine most modern music sounds like to really old people. like, what is that shit? i'll never understand them.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
You have lost touch with the feral spirit of youth, scott.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
they're just bad at it. and annoying. in a world where this already existed who needs them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fidi0JvFAnk
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
Just out of curiosity, is anyone listing Meek Mill on any lists?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
i can't listen to horrible mr. bungle music either though. people are horrified by different things.
x-post
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
Wondering which Death Grips album will place higher in P&J?
And Rev, it's all love - just felt like ppl were dog piling on dog Latin a bit
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
if I didn't know dl would take it good humor, I wouldn't have posted it
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
no offence taken, i mean, i was banging on about animal collective so i get what i deserve really.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:48 (eleven years ago) link
that Paul Dolden thing is interesting, but it's nothing like AC.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:49 (eleven years ago) link
I'm pretty gutted iamamiwhoami's Kin has only made the RYM list so far
listening to this now. pretty outstanding, definitely for fans of gazelle twin, the knife, and similar artists.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
more than pretty outstanding actually
Ha this is what I get for being outta touch with ILX for so damn long
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry dudes
Hey, is Alt Press still around, do they have a list?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
"that Paul Dolden thing is interesting, but it's nothing like AC."
thank the lord.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
i was put off iamamiwhoami because of their name (even clunkier than when saints go machine) but this is really good.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
that last track is especially decent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3G_Y3aIlis&noredirect=1
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
lol "especially decent"
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
isn't that diplo's label
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin)
Yeah I can understand the name thing, there are some things about the whole campaign that have been a bit much but the music is just incredible.
It's all about Play for me, the chorus is just so good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJBC8L3pG_Y
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link
Am I the only person who dug the Project Undark Radium Girls 2011 stuff? Need to track down the full album... And yes, it was released this year, despite the misleading name.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
listening to iamamiwhoami right now, having put it on the back burner for a while. this is really good stuff, and if i was inclined to compile a top 20 or whatever, which i may well do just for the hell of it, then this would definitely be vying for a good spot. it just seems to strike such a strong balance of tempos, atmospheres, everything. i really love "goods" and the frantic, spooky undercurrent that sends it whisking along.
― charlie h, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
It's a shame some of the earlier stand-alone iamamiwhoami tracks didn't make it to Kin, especially ";John", but at the same time I understand that the build-up and the final artifact are probably intended to be different things.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty sure iamamiwhoami will place pretty well on ILM, as there's at least 5 of us who rate it. And yes, the initially offputting "Play" with the lovely Cocteau Twinsy chorus is my highlight too.
― Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:49 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever
I know there was a huge build up with those singles but I somehow missed all that. Kin was the first thing I heard. I downloaded all the early singles a while back but haven't really spent much time with them yet.
Glad to hear there are few other iamamiwhoami supporters on here.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
Is there a thread about them? Might be worth starting one if not (can't check as I'm on my phone)
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:33 (eleven years ago) link
One here:
Who is iamamiwhoami?
The album grew on me enormously after seeing her live.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 08:49 (eleven years ago) link
remember when everyone thought iamamiwhoami was xtina?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 09:01 (eleven years ago) link
Filter Magazine - "Good Music Will Prevail"http://filtermagazine.com/index.php/news/entry/filters_top_10_of_2012_staff_picks
1. Tame Impala - Lonerism MODULAR2. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange DEF JAM3. Grimes - Visions 4AD4. Kendrick Lamar - good kid m.A.A.d. city TOP DAWG/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE5. Diamond Rugs - Diamond Rugs PARTISAN6. Cat Power - Sun MATADOR7. Mumford & Sons - Babel GLASSNOTE8. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend! CONSTELLATION9. Niki & The Dove - Instinct SUB POP10. Beach House - Bloom SUB POP11. Miike Snow - Happy To You DOWNTOWN/UNIVERSAL12. Liars - WIXIW MUTE13. Sigur Rós - Valtari XL14. DIIV - Oshin CAPTURED TRACKS15. Father John Misty - Fear Fun SUB POP16. Chromatics - Kill For Love ITALIANS DO IT BETTER17. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel... EPIC18. Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes WARP19. Jack White - Blunderbuss THIRD MAN/COLUMBIA20. The xx - Coexist XL
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link
What's Father John Misty? I overheard the girls in the record shop banging on about him/them the other day.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
baffling that Cat Power is turning up on so many of these lists
― Number None, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
Think he was the dude with the really boring voice in Father Ted.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
haha, yeah that's very similar to who I imagined when I heard the name.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
Father John Misty is the drummer from Fleet Foxes or something I think. Seriously.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
Father John Misty - I'm Fine, Thanks
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
Father John Misty is Josh Tillmann - was the Fleet Foxes drummer for a while but also a solo artist before that. The album's good in that Bella Union vein - more John Grant than Fleet Foxes. He's got a nice dark sense of humour.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:17 (eleven years ago) link
Might be interesting. I'm not a FF fan, but from the description it sounds like it could fit into the Josh T Pearson category maybe?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
Filter is possibly the least interesting list yet. I don't know who Diamond Rugs are though, maybe they're awesome.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
well, once you've seen 15 lists of pretty much the same albums in varying orders they all look pretty boring. is it right for me to moan about the marginalisation of metal/harder-edged rock and noise music on these lists? even the most supposedly eclectic publications seem to ignore the heavier end of the spectrum which is a massive shame considering the same fans of, say Liars, could easily love some of the (hate to use the term but here we go) post-metal stuff like UFOmammut and Om etc. Sometimes it feels like metal-genres are the final frontier for a lot of indie-type publications that have come round to embracing pop and r'n'b in the last few years.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
I would expect to see a fair number of metal records when the Quietus does its list FWIW, but yeah the point stands.
― Neil S, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
Scott OTM in a general sort of way, the "Who needs x when you've got Paul Dolden" argument casts a wide net
― a funny thing happened on the way to the forum (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Guardian number nine pick
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not discovering nothing from these lists.
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
Hot Chip released another album this year eh? They do crank em out. Maybe I'll get round to listening to Made In The Dark one day.
I do still love Gabriel from last year though.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
The only way to be surprised by these lists is to actively avoid reading any and all critical discourse, including music threads here.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
dog latin: a meatl album sighting - Black Breath are on Fact's list
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
The new Hot Chip is pretty good, probably better than One Life Stand, not quite as good as Made In The Dark.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
I wouldn't exactly call it one of the best of the year though...
NickB: Black Breath are the daddy tits!
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
I thought I was going to love "Motion Sickness" until the intro ended
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
definitely feel like joe goddard's come into his own over the past year production-wise - "gabriel", yes, also his remixes of delilah's "love you so" and especially jessie ware's "night light", which is just a flawless and astonishing thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrThWeqmzs
(i give each new hot chip a dutiful listen but i'm even less interested in them now than i was back in the day, and even that was lukewarm. i'm sure his voice is getting worse.)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
dog latin: a meatl album sighting - Black Breath are on Fact's list― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:03 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 3:03 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Also: Young Smoke is there. A good day for Latin dogs everywhere.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
Am I the only person who dug the Project Undark Radium Girls 2011 stuff?
I guess the lack of response means that yes, yes I am.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
:-) Young Smoke album is the most accessible tru-footwork record to date. I'd recommend it to anyone really, not just juke fans.
re: Hot Chip, it's his voice i can't stand and generally puts me off them.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
you know who should really be on more of these lists, is Alabama Shakes
Brittany Howard is a force of nature
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
haha maybe I should have searched BEFORE I posted that
can anyone be arsed to write out the fact list? i'd do it but at work and stuff..
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Probably not worth doing until they finish the roll out?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
btw I am listening to Tame Impala right now and this is great
I also suspect that half the guitar bands out there now who bore me silly could convert me to a fan in five seconds by adding judicious amounts of flange to their guitar sounds so I guess you can call me the anti-n/a
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
I'm the other way round in that I think this is Hot Chip's best album, I went back and listened to The Warning fairly recently (which I suppose was their buzz album) and it's so clunky in comparison.
This is my favourite Joe Goddard production, Gabriel excluded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxHtclUAyLo
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
ooh, love Nneka, her song Shining Star AND Goddard, but didn't know this existed.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
I'd love to see Alabama Shakes live, becz I hear this kind of thing about their performances. But the album, to me, seemed like an overachieving bar band. Totally fine, but not remarkable.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Co-sign on the Goddard Nneka remix, one of my most played tracks of the past few months.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
this is where i admit i did not know the alabama shakes singer was a lady
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
this is where i admit i did not know the alabama shakes beach house singer was a lady
― nashwan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I only realized that with Bloom. Definitely thought that "Norway" song was sung by a dude.
― Moodles, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
I'd love to see Alabama Shakes live, becz I hear this kind of thing about their performances. But the album, to me, seemed like an overachieving bar band. Totally fine, but not remarkable.― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:55 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 15:55 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This. My missus loved the album though. I could imagine they're hella fun live.
People think Beach House girl is a guy? Really?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
i know it's a woman and still sometimes absent-mindedly hear the voice as male when a record's on
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
I remember when people said they thought the Delays singer was a girl. idgi then, either.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
This was my first exposure to Alabama Shakes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLPMAho8K-0
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
I don't hear Beach House as a man at all. Oh well. Reminds me of the time when (after listening to Rejoicing In The Hands for several weeks) that Devendra Banhart wasn't a septuagenarian 50-a-day Louisianan lady.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Magnet - Best Of 2012: Jazz/Improvhttp://www.magnetmagazine.com/2012/12/04/best-of-2012-jazzimprov/
MAGNET’s Bill Meyer picks the best jazz/improv releases of the year.
1 Ishmael Wadada Leo Smith & Louis Moholo-Moholo Ancestors (TUM)2 Keith Rowe & John Tilbury E.E. Tension And Circumstance (Potlatch)3 Peter Brötzmann & Jason Adasiewicz Going All Fancy (Brö)4 Joshua Abrams Represencing (Eremite)5 Neneh Cherry & The Thing The Cherry Thing (Smalltown Supersound)6 Fast Citizens Gather (Delmark)7 John Butcher, Eddie Prevost And Guillaume Vitard All But: Meetings With Remarkable Saxophonists Volume 2 (Matchless)8 Sam Rivers/Dave Holland/Barry Altschul Reunion: Live In New York (Pi)9 Living By Lanterns New Myth/Old Science (Cuneiform)10 David S. Ware / Planetary Unknown Live At Jazzfestival Saalfelden 2011 (Aum Fidelity)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't kept up with jazz at all but that looks like an interesting list to me
I think I might be getting to the age where I start to get into jazz/improv. God help me. Is this like a genetic timebomb thingy or what?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
As usual I've listened to a lot of albums on these lists the past couple weeks that I missed previously, or ignored. I'm really liking Light Asylum, reintroducing a little brutality to electro-pop. And what an interesting voice, I had no idea it was a woman the first time. OTOH, listening to too much Purity Ring, Chromatics and Chairlift makes me feel like I'm drowning in high fructose corn syrup. There's plenty to like in 'em, but maybe just once or twice a year for me. Cloud Nothings pushes about 1-1/2 of my buttons, the half being Lungfish flashbacks that are for some reason comforting! King Tuff is different than what I'd expect from a member of Witch, all scrappy twee power pop. Fun but not quite a top 100 candidate. I'm on the fence with Spoek Mathambo. Afro-dubstep, retro-futurist electro, political horror hop could be audio crack for me, but the songs aren't completely successful in tying it all together. More listening needed. Daphni, Andy Stott, Pye Corner Audio and Orbital are good, I just tend to forget to play electronic stuff as often. I made a new playlist for 'em. I've been enjoying the Cody Chesnutt album a bit more than, say, the Bobby Womack or even Frank Ocean.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
The time when I was really into jazz was in my early twenties, I haven't got the time or the energy any more to listen to music as intently as I used to, and jazz really repays that sort of concentration imo. xp
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
I really wanted to enjoy the Spoek Mathambo album more than I did, but it was just a bit too clunky. His first one was more electronic-leaning but ultimately more satisfying.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
^^
Yeah, the Spoek album is really frustrating. There are certainly some flashes of brilliance on it, but very few of the songs pull together in the ways I wish they would. I still think he is capable of dropping a mind-blowing album on us though.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
Am I the only person who dug the Project Undark Radium Girls 2011 stuff?I guess the lack of response means that yes, yes I am.― emil.y, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:13 AM
― emil.y, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:13 AM
It's not easily streamable, but I did find a Vimeo clip. Does it ever turn into something else, or is it continually just puttering around?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah, he's def one to watch.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
is it right for me to moan about the marginalisation of metal/harder-edged rock and noise music on these lists? even the most supposedly eclectic publications seem to ignore the heavier end of the spectrum which is a massive shame considering the same fans of, say Liars, could easily love some of the (hate to use the term but here we go) post-metal stuff like UFOmammut and Om etc. Sometimes it feels like metal-genres are the final frontier for a lot of indie-type publications that have come round to embracing pop and r'n'b in the last few years.
My theory is that a lot of folks don't realize there can be a happy medium between extreme metal/noise subgenres and Nickelback. So there's audiences/critics who can't quite get into black metal, grindcore, sludge, but think all other heavy rock, psych and metal is . . . redundant? Irrelevant? I guess I'm not the one to explain it, as that's what I like to listen to 90% of the time lately. I don't see how anyone couldn't appreciate, say, the amazing guitar tones of Colour Haze just as much as, say, the boring drones found in parts of the more highly acclaimed Swans and Godspeed! You Black Emperor albums. And yeah, I'm hoping the likes of Quietus, Rock-A-Rolla and Terrorizer at least don't sleep on the Ufomammut.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, December 3, 2012 11:14 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a lot of pubs are doing this right? i.e. spin taking a brave stand against Grimes
"THIS is the thing lots of people like that we will call people SHEEP for falling for"
its probably not very good strategy, ppl are even resurrecting Salem these days
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
ooh is it time for the witch house revival, is it is it
because i always had a soft spot for that
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
i say 'probably not a very good strategy' from a business standpoint btw, im fully in favor of pubs doing it tho. kinda dramatic lol
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Does it ever turn into something else, or is it continually just puttering around?
Uh. Well, I wouldn't describe it as "puttering around" at any point. It's pretty minimalist and non song-oriented, sure, but everything's placed there entirely deliberately.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
My theory is that a lot of folks don't realize there can be a happy medium between extreme metal/noise subgenres and Nickelback. So there's audiences/critics who can't quite get into black metal, grindcore, sludge, but think all other heavy rock, psych and metal is . . . redundant? Irrelevant? I guess I'm not the one to explain it, as that's what I like to listen to 90% of the time lately. I don't see how anyone couldn't appreciate, say, the amazing guitar tones of Colour Haze just as much as, say, the boring drones found in parts of the more highly acclaimed Swans and Godspeed! You Black Emperor albums. And yeah, I'm hoping the likes of Quietus, Rock-A-Rolla and Terrorizer at least don't sleep on the Ufomammut.― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's surprising actually that there isn't more metal on these general lists, especially following last year's Liturgy farce (or maybe that shitty band is responsible for turning people OFF metal? just a thought), and the surprising amount of metal and hardcore on the lineup at Primavera this year (the acts I enjoyed most this year were all in the punk and metal vein)...
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Ha ha, they were like, yeah, let's stop pretending to like black metal!
xp Re: Spoek Mathambo Yeah if Mshini Wam was supposed to be his Controversy, Father Creeper is no 1999.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 11:44 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so going out of your way to include every record appearing on every other publications list is the noble and right thing to do, leaving anything out is a deliberate, arrogant statement? c'mon man
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
It was tough to judge on a clip that wasn't even 4 minutes long, so I didn't know.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol i was joking about gorilla vs bear
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
wish we knew more about the methodology of each publications' list, ie which are editorially-driven (ie have an agenda behind them) and which are just the result of totting up various votes (in which case accusing them of "snubbing" any artist would be silly)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
i find the former method slightly sinister, tbh
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 10:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah of course not (i mean, read my follow-up post) but there's a line somewhere, I mean, we've talked about genre specialist mags before & the advantage they have
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
idk, anything this unnuanced is nagl BUT there's the converse, which is people pointing to "everyone else" liking something as PROOF of its objective quality, and if you dissent you're just accused of being contrarian for the sake of it
and then there's also that thing where a ton of people/"tastemakers" in the music industry - no one on ilm but i'm sure we all know the type - ARE just unimaginative follow-fashions who need an artist/album to have multiple cosigns from their peers before it's "ok" to like
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Looking at all these lists as someone who listened to a lot less music than usual this year -- and therefore has no opinion about a lot of stuff on them -- the whole process of tastemaking gets more objectively interesting. Just the way consensus builds or doesn't build around Album X vs. Album Y. E.g., the discussion above about why one Animal Collective or TVOTR album is Album of the Year, and another not-necessarily-lesser album a few years later barely merits a mention. We all know these things happen, that there are patterns of enthusiasm and so forth, and while we all tend to exempt our own tastes from those kinds of forces -- because we just listen to the music! -- of course so do all of those other people we're accusing of some kind of herd behavior.
Anyway, it's just interesting to look at the EOY lists without having much sense of personal investment. Trying to puzzle out the backstory in the data points.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
Ishmael Wadada Leo Smith & Louis Moholo-Moholo Ancestors (TUM)
Get the impression Leo Smith is doing a shedload these days (not that he wasn't but its noticeable but I notice and I'm not really watching it that closely). Really mad I missed him at Bishopsgate last month.
The one that intrigues me is John Butcher and Eddie Prevost - no idea what those two really quite different players would sound like together. Always had an idea that Eddie would only ever work within AMM.
lol@ the idea jazz is some old man pipe and slippers thrash. Student thinking.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
PASTE Top EPs of 2012: http://www.pastemagazine.com/blogs/lists/2012/12/the-10-best-eps-of-2012.html
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
there's an implied "I LIKE TO EAT" at the beginning of their name, right
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Paste continues to be dreadful, maybe even moreso as an online-only entity.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, D-40 stumbled across SPIN's clever strategy of "not just copying what pitchfork and stereogum likes and put our name on it" dude is cracking the indie rock DaVinci code over here
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
#IndieGuilt
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha i love at least one of those 1975 songs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
LOL I think I posted the Nneka remix a while back and you refused to listen on principle!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
the 1975 are the shit... tho the slow down was much better name
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
xp heh yeah raised an eyebrow at that fanution myself
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
xp on which principle?! i have no opinion on nneka and if i've listened to every dreary hot chip album i doubt i'd have refused to listen to a remix
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh no no no you are wrong about the 1975 noooooo stop being wrooooooong
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
hmm i really thought you'd dig the 1975
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
that reads like a parody of a lex post
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really hear it with the 1975.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
basically I never want to hear any 21st century musical act or project named after a year from the 20th century
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
didn't predict myself that lex would love a more emo arctic monkeys
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
anyway "sex" is a killer song, rest of that ep is kind of mushy and indistinct tho
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
"sex" & "the city" are instant classics
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
careful use of quotations...and tenses ... blah bad joke
― D-40, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
This is the point in list making that I hate, where suddenly impossible choices have to made. Deciding to leave Ariel Pink out of my top ten was hard enough, now I'm figuring out whether lightning bolt, Oneida, Dial, or Meek Mill gets the shaft on my albums list
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
not Meek
― these markers love soda (some dude), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
It's like "which finger should I sever?"
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I know
I almost chucked him but couldn't
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
you sever the pinkie on the hand with 6 fingers.
― abanana, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Lightning bolt released stuff this year? I haven't got round to listening to earthly delights yet. I loved the two before thAt. Has their sound changed much since then?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
FACT put Gunplay's Bogota Rich on their albums list so well done them
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i prefer 601 but that's still a good look
― these markers love soda (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
FACT list is the best so far imo
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, LB
consolation prize is that "I Found A Ring In My Ear" gets a spot on the tracks list because it RULES
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
OOR (Dutch magazine):
1. ALT- J - AN AWESOME WAVE (INFECTIOUS/PIAS)2. JACK WHITE - BLUNDERBLUSS (XL/BEGGARS)3. FRANK OCEAN - CHANNEL ORANGE (DEF JAM/UNIVERSAL)4. CLOUD NOTHINGS - ATTACK ON MEMORY (WICHITA/PIAS)5. THE XX - COEXIST (XL/BEGGARS)6. TAME IMPALA - LONERISM (MODULAR/NEWS)7. DJANGO DJANGO - DJANGO DJANGO (BECAUSE/WARNER)8. GRIZZLY BEAR - SHIELDS (WARP/V2)9. ALABAMA SHAKES - BOYS & GIRLS (ROUGH TRADE/KONKURRENT)10. KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY (INTERSCOPE/UNIVERSAL)11. METZ - METZ (SUB POP/KONKURRENT)12. MOSS - ORNAMENTS (EXCELSIOR/V2)13. CHROMATICS - KILL FOR LOVE (NEWS)14. JAKE BUGG - JAKE BUGG (MERCURY/ UNIVERSAL)15. FIRST AID KIT - THE LION’S ROAR (WICHITA/PIAS)16. BEACH HOUSE - BLOOM (BELLA UNION/V2)17. DR JOHN - LOCKED DOWN (NONESUCH/WARNER)18. BLAUDZUN - HEAVY FLOWERS (V2)19. TY SEGALL - TWINS (DRAG CITY/MUNICH/V2)20. ALLAH-LAS - ALLAH-LAS (INNOVATIVE LEISURE/V2)21. MICHAEL KIWANUKA - HOME AGAIN (POLYDOR/UNIVERSAL)22. CASE MAYFIELD - THE MANY COLORED BEAST (PIAS)23. THE VACCINES - COME OF AGE (COLUMBIA/SONY)24. SWANS - THE SEER (YOUNG GOD/KONKURRENT)25. MARK LANEGAN BAND - BLUES FUNERAL (4AD/BEGGARS)
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
Fuck me that's the absolute worst.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
2012 list from hell. Apart from Swans. And Kendrick I guess.
Are there any songs on Tame Impala as good as 'Elephant' or should I resign myself to only voting for that int he singles poll?
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
ok so Rolling Stone's album of the year is Springsteen's.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
we take care of our own
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
Rolling Stone know their demographic and goddamit they're going to pander to them.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
the idea of a bunch of dutch knobs in a room debating alt-j vs. frank ocean is fucking hilarious to me
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
An Aweshome Wave vs Shannel Ocean
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
*Oranshe
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
We spent a bunch
Rolling Stone know their demographic and goddamit they're going to pander to them. --Deafening silence (DL)
How would this read if it was Kendrick
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
I mean if you read these threads, every mag is either "pandering" or "trying to be ______" or "trying to hard" with their number one choice. I think Springsteen is a fine choice for an RS list
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
hang on the song "springsteen" or the artist springsteen? the former is awesome, had no idea the latter was still active or alive or whatever
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
Springsteen actually died in 1992, this is a Tupac style remix album.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
People like the Gaslight Anthem and former members of REM and Michael Franti providing backing tracks for his vocals.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
Did RS release its full list?
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
TS: dadrock pandering vs contempt for the actual tastes/opinions of yr readers
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
the Eric Church song is def way better than anything Springsteen did this year, but i would never expect Rolling Stone to acknowledge that
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
RS top 4 is Bruce, Frank, Jack and Bob
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Then there's Fiona Apple, Kendrick, Edward Sharpe, Green Day, Japandroids, Neil Young
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
What about Neil?
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I heard his horse went crazy
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
standing by the Green Day shitshow is more embarrassing than all the senior citizens on that list combined
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
did they pick just one album for the list or all 3?
Think it's just the first one
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
xpost It's not picking a Springsteen album that's the problem. It's that it's not all that great a Springsteen album.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
xp Depends on whether or not you think this is a great Springsteen album.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
are you kidding, of course it isn't!
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
That's my point, though Whiney seems to think otherwise.
For me "pandering" is the difference between RS/Uncut recognising a veteran at his late-period best and just honouring him because he's a veteran.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Okay it is just ¡Uno! according to some Green Day forum
Someone had the full list there btw
1. Wrecking Ball - Bruce Springsteen2. Channel Orange - Frank Ocean3. Blunderbuss - Jack White4. Tempest - Bob Dylan5. The Idler Wheel... - Fiona Apple6. good kid, m.A.A.d city - Kendrick Lamar7. Here - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros8. !Uno! - Green Day9. Celebration Rock - Japandroids10. Psychedelic Pill - Neil Young and Crazy Horse11. Babel - Mumford & Sons12. Rebirth - Jimmy Cliff13. Old Ideas - Leonard Cohen14. The Only Place - Best Coast15. Locked Down - Dr. John16. Sun - Cat Power17. Born and Raised - John Mayer18. Life is Good - Nas19. Mirage Rock - Band of Heroes20. R.A.P. Music - Killer Mike21. Attack on Memory - Cloud Nothings22. Slipstream - Bonnie Raitt23. A Thing Called Divine Fits - Divine Fits24. Cruel Summer - G.O.O.D. Music25. Sunken Condos - Donald Fagen26. Django Django - Django Django27. Blak and Blu - Gary Clark Jr.28. Bloom - Beach House29. Away From the World - Dave Matthews Band30. 1991 - Azealia Banks31. Red - Taylor Swift32. Hospitality - Hospitality33. Visions - Grime34. Boys & Girls - Alabama Shakes35. Shields - Grizzly Bear36. The Bravest Man in the Universe - Bobby Womack37. Nothing's Gonna Change the Way You Feel About Me Now - Justin Townes Earl38. Local Business - Titus Andronicus39. Gossamer - Passion Pit40. Escort - Escort41. The Carpenter - The Avett Brothers42. Europe - Allo Darlin'43. Some Nights - fun.44. Not Your Kind of People - Garbage45. Rich Forever - Rick Ross46. The 2nd Law - Muse47. Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables - Todd Snider48. Oceania - The Smashing Pumpkins49. Folila - Amadou and Mariam50. Swing Lo Magellan - Dirty Projectors
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
haha someone else gets the Cruel Summer gasface
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
No Lame Impala in there afaics
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
I like the idea of Band of Heroes. Are they some Tea Party answer to Band of Horses?
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
nice to see Grime on a 2012 list, didn't know if that stuff was still being made
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
No XX or ZZ on that list either
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
30. 1991 - Azealia Banks
this is a four-track EP, one song of which was her big 2011 hit. how in the world is this being classed alongside albums.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Still super curious about that Dr John album
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
The next installment of the Fact list is up and starts here if anyone cares:http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/22/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
eh if an EP has more than 3 songs i think it's fair game for album lists
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol i think there are maybe 3 albums in the entire fact list so far i rate, and a great deal that i hate
also finding out that the price i pay for getting excited about so many of my favs making it into the guardian's 40-11 is being underwhelmed by the top 10
i siiiiiigh
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire list has landed:
1. Laurel Halo - Quarantine2. Sun Araw & M Geddes Gengras meet the Congos - Icon Give Thank3. Actress - RIP4. Jakob Ullmann - Fremde Zeit - Addendum5. Jason Lescalleet - Songs About Nothing6. CC Hennix & The Chora(s)san Time-Court Mirage - Live at the Grimm Museum 17. Bob Dylan - Tempest8. Julia Holter - Ekstasis9. Carter Tutti Void - Transverse10. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch12. Josephine Foster - Blood Rushing13. Fushitsusha - Mabushii Itazura Na Inori14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi15. Death Grips - The Money Store16. Emptyset - Medium17. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems19. V/A - Wandelweiser und so Weiter20. Morton Feldman - Crippled Symmetry: At June in Buffalo21. Richard Skelton - Verse of Birds22. The Bohman Brothers - Back on the Streets23. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city24. Michael Pisaro and Toshiya Tsunoda - Crosshatches25. Bass Clef - Reeling Skullways26. Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester27. Killer Mike - RAP Music28. Shackleton - The Drawbar Organ/Music for the Quiet Hour29. Rhodri Davies - Wound Response30. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes31. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers32. Thomas Koner - Novaya Zemlya33. Annea Lockwood - In our Name34. Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light II35. Lee Gamble - Diversions 1994-199636. Heatsick - Deviation37. Duane Pitre - Feel Free38. Raime - Quarter Turns over a Living Line39. Swans - The Seer40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh41. Cooly G - Playin' Me42. Traxman - Da Mind of Traxman43. DJ Rashad - Teklife Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi44. Charles Gayle Trio - Streets45. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange46. Pye Corner Audio - Sleep Games47. Peter Cusack - Sounds from Dangerous Places48. Pelt - Effigy49. DVA - Pretty Ugly50. Brotzmann/Satoh/Moriyama - Yatagarasu
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
16 minutes long? barely over 10 minutes of new (to this year) material? i think 6 is the minimum of (normal length) tracks i'd want before classing it alongside an album.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha that Passion Pit album is terrible
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
11. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch
wow, review copies way in advance for the whole staff?
18. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
hurrah
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think it really matters if a record's lead single came out the year before either! that happens all the time!
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
the music being by Azealia Banks is a much bigger issue
Is Rolling Stone the only publication to have rated the Nas album so far? I'm aware I probably like it more than most people here but I thought it would placed in more publications even as a token pick.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
it's in the fact list
it's alright, wouldn't be in my list but it's a lot better than a lot of stuff that is ending up in these lists
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
It seems both Heatsick and Helm released albums this year I knew nothing about the existence of. Bah.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
The Heatsick one is an EP, I think. It's pretty good!
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Re: The Wire
Surprised at the high Dylan placing. Surprised by the low Swans placing.
Guess it's not a surprise, but happy to see
14. Haino/O'Rourke/Ambarchi - Imikuzushi
getting a mention, it's killer-diller.
And does anybody know anything about this? Totally passed me by -
40. Mark Ernestus Presents Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck - Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for posting the Wire list! Top ten for Bob Dylan is the biggest surprise on there for me, but then I haven't heard it or read any reviews of it so there you go.
The Heatsick record is good fun! Have tried the Helm one a few times but it's never really stuck with me.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
It's just a 12" with a remix on the B-side. A-side is a pretty good Senegalese Mbalax track with relatively light production tricks.
Here we go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rPIzyKkuNs
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire also has a big reissues list - top 5 is Laurie Spiegel/Can/Pauline Oliveros/Don Cherry/AR Kane - and the usual genre lists, but I'll let someone else type those out...
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
That reminds me, it's been a bit disappointing to see no mention of the Shangaan Shake album so far. xp
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Wait a second, according to my calculations, Josephine Foster and Six Organs of Admittance have both made it to exactly one list? I have some questions regarding critical abandonment.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
one list each, not the same listWire and some dad mag iirc?
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
Nice to find out Annea Lockwood released something this year, but I'm going to back to it later. Definitely not morning listening (nor would I expect it to be).
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
FACT's top twenty reissues (there's actually forty but i got tired)
20: LAURIE SPIEGEL - THE EXPANDING UNIVERSE (UNSEEN WORLDS)19: PYROLATOR - AUSLAND (BUREAU B)18: PARRIS MITCHELL - ‘ALL NIGHT LONG’ (WICKED BASS)17: DAVID LYNCH & ALAN R. SPLET - ERASERHEAD (SACRED BONES)16: DREXCIYA - JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER II / JOURNEY OF THE DEEP SEA DWELLER III (CLONE CLASSIC CUTS)15: VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION: EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST-PUNK DIY AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1980-1983 (CACHE CACHE / FINDERS KEEPERS)14: STERAC - SECRET LIFE OF MACHINES: REMASTERED AND REMIXED (100% PURE)13: ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER - RIFTS (SOFTWARE)12: THE BURRELL BROTHERS - THE NU GROOVE YEARS: 1988-1992 (RUSH HOUR)11: CODEINE - WHEN I SEE THE SUN (NUMERO GROUP)10: RAEKWON - ONLY BUILT 4 CUBAN LINX: THE PURPLE TAPE (GET ON DOWN)09: BOB CHANCE - IT’S BROKEN (TRUNK)08: KW GRIFF FEAT. PORKCHOP - ‘BRING IN THE KATZ’ (NIGHT SLUGS)07: PAPERCLIP PEOPLE / PSYCHE/BFC - THE SECRET TAPES OF DR EICH / ELEMENTS (PLANET E)06: CLEANERS FROM VENUS - BOX SET VOL. 1 (CAPTURED TRACKS)05: LEGO FEET - LEGO FEET (SKAM)04: SLEEP - DOPESMOKER (SOUTHERN LORD)03: RUFF SQWAD - WHITE LABEL CLASSICS (NO HATS NO HOODS)02: FRANCIS BEBEY - AFRICAN ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1975-1982 (BORN BAD)01: MONOTON - MONOTONPRODUKT07 (DESIRE)
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
15: VARIOUS ARTISTS - STRANGE PASSION: EXPLORATIONS IN IRISH POST-PUNK DIY AND ELECTRONIC MUSIC 1980-1983 (CACHE CACHE / FINDERS KEEPERS)
think my friend's dad features on this. unfortunately not my dad though, he was more into free jazz back then.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
I'm listening to it as we speak. Which band?
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure either of those artists are exactly mainstays on EOY lists, though, are they? Guess I could imagine SOoA on The Wire. But I'd be surprised to see either show up on RS or Spin or P4k in any given year.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry, that was an xpost to La Lechera.
Nas album is really good, definitely suffered in these lists from coming out the same year as the biggest NEW ILLMATIC hype in ages
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
think it's SM Corporation, xpost
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
on there twice so they must be good
― Number None, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
431 listeners of Last.fm!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
on not of
xp Thanks for answering my question. Makes sense, also Rangda. I'm glad Wire still has Josephine Foster's back though because she has never disappointed me from one album to the next. She always totally slays whatever she's singing.
― passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:45 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
no i'm pretty sure people just don't care that much about nas anymore
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
that too. but it's still better than some of the albums people overrated more in years when they needed Nas more for their genre narratives.
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
don't think the NPR lists have been posted yet have they? they're just in alphabetical order:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/bestmusic2012/2012/12/05/166230912/npr-musics-50-favorite-albums-of-2012http://www.npr.org/blogs/bestmusic2012/166027824/100-favorite-songs
the nas album got quite a lot of hype when it came out so i'm pretty sure that "people" do "care" about nas
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
For those like me who don't feel like clicking, here's the NPR album list:
Ab-Soul, Control System Alabama Shakes, Boys And Girls Alisa Weilerstein, Cello Concertos (Elgar & Carter) Alt-J, An Awesome Wave Andy Stott, Luxury Problems Astro, Astro Berlin Philharmonic, St. Matthew Passion Meek Mill, Dreamchasers 2 Bobby Womack, The Bravest Man In The Universe Bomba Estereo, Elegancia Tropical Brooklyn Rider, Seven Steps Cafe Tacvba, El Objeto Antes Llmado Disco Carla Morrison, Dejenme Llorar Cat Power, Sun Cody ChesnuTT, Landing On A Hundred Dan Deacon, America Death Grips, No Love Deep Web Debo Band, Debo Band Dirty Projectors, Swing Lo Magellan Dwight Yoakam, 3 Pears Exitmusic, Passage Fiona Apple, The Idler Wheel Flying Lotus, Until The Quiet Comes Frank Ocean, channel Orange fun., Some Nights Homeboy Sandman, First Of A Living Breed Iris DeMent, Sing The Delta Janka Nabay, En Yay Sah Japandroids, Celebration Rock Karriem Riggins, Alone Together Kendrick Lamar, good kid, M.A.A.D. city Killer Mike, R.A.P. Music Leila Josefowicz, Violin Concerto (Salonen) Leonard Cohen, Old Ideas Matt Ulery, By A Little Light Miguel, Kaleidoscope Dream Neneh Cherry and The Thing, The Cherry Thing Now, Now, Threads Pallbearer, Sorrow And Extinction Patrick Watson, Adventures In Your Own Backyard Pink, The Truth About Love Regina Spektor, What We Saw From The Cheap Seats San Francisco Symphony/Michael Tilson Thomas, Harmonielehre/Short Ride in a Fast Machine (Adams) Sharon Van Etten, Tramp Swans, The Seer The 2 Bears, Be Strong The Very Best, MTMTMK Ty Segall, Twins Vijay Iyer Trio, Accelerando Wadada Leo Smith, Ten Freedom Summers
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
From the video I've seen Dylan's voice is so so shot, makeing such a noise that it totally fits w/a high placing in the Wire poll.
4. Jakob Ullmann - Fremde Zeit - Addendum
This is amazingly high - I love A Catalogue of Sounds, but austere classical doesn't usually make the top 10. Haven't heard this set though.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
the Pink album's dope, good to see that recognized somewhere
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
kudos for dreamchasers 2 and the cherry thing!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
Meek mixtape is good but i'm definitely rating the album over it.
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Oh boy...
Magnet - Best Of 2012: Electronichttp://www.magnetmagazine.com/category/best-of-2012/
MAGNET’s Justin Hampton picks the best electronic releases of the year.
1 Death Grips The Money Store (Epic)2 Hundred Waters Hundred Waters (Owsla)3 deadmau5 <Album Title Goes Here> (Ultra)4 Rusko Songs (Mad Decent)5 The Gaslamp Killer Breakthrough (Brainfeeder)6 Calvin Harris 18 Months (Fly Eye/Columbia)7 NOISIA Split The Atom (mau5trap)8 Die Antwoord Ten$ion (Zef)9 Mala Mala In Cuba (Brownswood)10 Death Grips No Love Deep Web (self-released)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
since the NPR site is fucked and I had to do a web safari to get to the song list, here's that:
Aluna George, "You Know You Like It"Ana Tijoux, "Las Cosas Por Su Nombre"Ane Brun, "Do You Remember"Angel Olsen, "The Waiting"Arnaldo Antunes, Edgar Scandurra & Toumani Diabate, "Ce Nao Vai Me Acompanhar"Baauer, "Harlem Shake"Bang On A Can (David Lang) "For Madeline"Baroness, "Take My Bones Away"Bat For Lashes, "Laura"Behzod Abduraimov, "Danse Macabre"Best Coast, "The Only Place"Bill Fay, "The Never Ending Happening"Bonnie Raitt, "Not Cause I Wanted To"Bruce Springsteen, "We Take Care Of Our Own"Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe"Ceclia Bartoli, "Amami, e vederai"Chairlift, "I Belong In Your Arms"Cloud Nothings, "Stay Useless"Daughn Gibson, "In The Beginning"David Byrne & St. Vincent, "Who"Death Grips, "I've Seen Footage"Django Django, "Default"Egyptian Project, "Besharis"Ellie Goulding, "Anything Could Happen"Father John Misty, "Hollywood Forever Cemetery Sings"Fatouma Diawara, "Bakonoba"FIDLAR, "Cheap Beer"French Montana, "Pop That"fun., "We Are Young"G.O.O.D. Music, "Mercy"Gregory Porter, "Be Good"Grimes, "Genesis"Grizzly Bear, "A Simple Answer"Heems, "Womyn"High On Fire, "Fertile Green"Hospitality, "Eighth Avenue"Hot Chip, "Look At Where We Are"Icona Pop, "I Love It"Jack White, "Sixteen Saltines"Jai Paul, "Jasmine"Jamey Johnson & Alison Krauss, "Make The World Go Away"JEFF the Brotherhood, "Sixpack"Jeremih, "F—- You All The Time"Jeremy Denk, "Ligeti: Automne e Varsovie"Jeri-Jeri with Mbene Diatta Seck, "Mbeuguel Dafa Nekh"Joey Bada$$, "Waves"John Fullbright, "Gawd Above"John K. Samson, "When I Write My Masters Thesis"John Talabot, "Destiny"Julia Holter, "Marienbad"Justin Martin, "Don't Go"Kacey Musgraves, "Merry Go Round"Kelan Philip Cohran and the Hypnotic Brass Ensemble, "Spin"Kishi Bashi, "Bright Whites"Kristen Kelly, "Ex-Old Man"Le1f, "Wut"Lianne La Havas, "Is Your Love Big Enough"Little Big Town, "Pontoon"Loudon Wainwright III, "In C"LV, "Nothing Like Us"M.I.A., "Bad Girls"Machel Montano, "Go Down"Macklemore & Ryan Lewis, "Same Love"Mala, "Mulata"Marcel Khalife, "Oh, My Proud Wound"Martha Wainwright, "Everything Wrong"Metz, "Headache"Miguel, "Adorn"Neil Young and Crazy Horse, "Walk Like A Giant"Perfume Genius, "Hood"Ralph Peterson, "4 in 1 (Fo'tet)"Rick Ross feat. Andre 3000, "Sixteen"Robert Raimon Roy, "Robert Raimon Roy"Rufus Wainwright, "Montauk"Ryan Truesdell, "Punjab"Saint Etienne, "Tonight"San Francisco Symphony (Adams), "Short Ride in a Fast Machine"Schoolboy Q, "Blessed (feat. Kendrick Lamar)"Scissor Sisters, "Let's Have A Kiki"Sean Rowe, "Horses"Shemekia Copeland, "Ain't Gonna Be Your Tattoo"Shovels & Rope, "Birmingham"Simone White, "Big Dreams And The Headlines"Sinead O'Connor, "The Wolf Is Getting Married"Sinkane, "Jeeper Creeper"Six Organs of Admittance, "Waswasa"Solange, "Losing You"Spiritualized, "Hey Jane"Tame Impala, "Elephant"Tanlines, "All Of Me"The Mynabirds, "Generals"The xx, "Angels"THEESatisfaction, "QueenS"Titus Andronicus, "In A Big City"Todd Terje, "Inspector Norse"Usher, "Climax"Waxahatchee, "Be Good"Wiley, "I'm Skanking" (The 2 Bears Remix)"Y.N. Rich Kids, "Hot Cheetos and Takis"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
haha I was listening to that Noisia album yesterday, it was fun
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
That Actress album is hugely dull. I figure it's getting big props because people weren't quick enough to jump on the Splaszh-wagon.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
the Die Antwoord album is hilarious. "DJ Hi-Tek will fuck you in the ASSS"
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
Those NPR lists have a lot of good stuff on them. Also: "Hot Cheetos and Takis"
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
More piks from a glance at the wire list - anyone heard these?
24. Michael Pisaro and Toshiya Tsunoda - Crosshatches31. Wadada Leo Smith - Ten Freedom Summers50. Brotzmann/Satoh/Moriyama - Yatagarasu
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:07 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
phrases that terrify Talib Kweli
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
from Die Antwoord's Wiki: "although the band blends reality with fantastical elements for artistic effect and they do not acknowledge whether DJ Hi-Tek is a real person or a character played by a variety of musicians and actors; the physical appearance of a person presented as DJ Hi-Tek in video material has greatly varied, including ethnicity (white in "Zef Side", "Fok Julle Naaiers" and numerous live appearances)."
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
my splitting sides
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
Then again, it was Wire's album of the year in 2010, so I don't think you can lay that one at their door. Agree that it is a bit boring though.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
listened to the actress a record a lot more than some of the more instant dance albums this year, like talabot etc.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
i listened to it a few times and it didn't do a lot for me. it was more obviously accessible than before, which you'd think would make it better but for me a lot of it sounded like interludes from a late-90s IDM album - "pleasant" but nothing special. splaszh on the other hand was trance-inducing; totally stripped back and skewed vision of dance and pop music. i loved the whole "studies on a theme" method that album evoked (the first track is a "study" on Prince's Erotic City, apparently).
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Splazsh was in my '10 top ten and RIP is in my '12 top ten -- still making up for hearing Hazyville a whole week after it was released.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
This is from Classic Rock magazine:
1. Rush - Clockwork Angels2. Rival Sons - Head Down3. ZZ Top - La Futura4. Howlin Rain - The Russian Wilds5. Jake White - Blunderbuss6. Joe Bonamassa - Driving Towards The Daylight7. Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball8. The Darkness - Hot Cakes9. Cory Branan - Mutt10. Lynyrd Skynyrd - Last Of A Dyin' Breed11. Ginger - 100%12. Slash - Apocalyptic Love13. The Gaslight Anthem - Handwritten14. Van Halen - A Different Kind Of Truth15. Walking Papers - Walking Papers16. Europe - Bay Of Bones17. Muse - The 2nd Law18. Anathema - Weather Systems19. Kiss - Monster20. Soundgarden - King Animal21. Phantom Lamb - The Pines22. Tame Impala - Lonerism23. UFO - Seven Deadly24. Black Country Coummunion - Afterglow25. Aerosmith - Music From Another Dimension!26. Squackett - A Life Within A Day27. The Cult - Choice Of Weapon28. Band Of Skulls - Sweet Sour29. Shooter Jennings - Family Man30. Marillion - Sounds That Can' Be Made31. The Jim Jones Revue - The Savage Heart32. Brad - United We Stand33. The Heavy - The Glorious Dead34. Flying Colours - Flying Colours35. Crippled Black Phoenix - (Mankind) The Crafty Ape36. Chris Robinson Brotherhood - Big Moon Ritual37. Heart - Fanatic38. Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas39. Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion40. Tremonti - All I Was41. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Meat & Bone42. Killing Joke - MMXXII43. Baroness - Yellow & Green44. Alabama Shakes - Girls & Boys45. Gravelroad - Psychedelta46. Ian Anderson - Thick As A Brick 247. Bob Dylan - Tempest48. Paul Weller - Sonic Kicks49. Hawk Eyes - Ideas50. Patti Smith - Banga
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
Squackett is Chris Squire of Yes and Steve Hackett of Genesis fyi
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
hello classic rock magazine, way to fill the list with ageing white males
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
fart rock magazine
― Spectrum, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
Wait is this a different Classic Rock magazine from the other one?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, that was Ultimate Classic Rock
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Classic Ultimate Rock list is next week
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
Joe Bonamassa - Driving Towards The Daylight
^^^ had an argument with white dude last week about this one; said Joe is the next Jeff Beck, therefore "would have nothing to do with those fucking American Idol princesses fucking up music"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
30. Marillion - Sounds That Can' Be Made
^ I love this typo
32. Brad - United We Stand
this is easily my favourite album made by a schizophrenic this year
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
The xx is #8 in the Guardian list so maybe DJP is right and I've mistakenly projected my own huge disappointment on to other critics.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not trying to be all "xx street team" but the thread here is the only place I've seen people outright moaning about Coexist is terrible
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
let's have an ilx office pool on who's gonna be the first person to do the "ennngh i wish we could see what pitchfork writers INDIVIDUAL BALLOTS are" or "ennnngghh its EDITORIAL MASSAGING and not what THE WRITERS WANT" arguments this year,
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:54 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol having seen both joe bonamassa and jeff beck i can say with certainty that joe bonamassa is not the next jeff beck
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
xp It wouldn't be the first time I'd mistakenly equated the prevailing wind on ILX with wider opinion. It just seemed so lacklustre to me after the debut. I couldn't see people loving it.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
well, it's in my top 10 of the year pretty easily
would have been a contender solely based on "Chains", "Missing" and "Swept Away" but, as I said on the thread, an xx album based off of the blueprint of "Shelter" is exactly what I wanted from them
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
Wire List is always weird due to the disparate nature of the writers. The genre lists and conributers favourite albums at the end are always more interesting reading. Left my sub details at home so cant check them at the mo
― straightola, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
and also no KTL? Boo
i saw a lot of pre-release excitement on twitter from UK critics about the xx which pretty much all turned swiftly into mild disappointment once people had heard it
it's basically the first album but...less. i don't really have any complaints about its sound or direction as such, it's a nice background album if you need it like that, but the songs are just not there apart from "angels"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
you keep saying that as if it isn't a meaningless criticism
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
the hooks aren't there, then
a lot of things aren't there
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
There was so little there in the first place that all it really took was a tiny drop off in quality to feel massive.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yes. When your sound is that minimal you can't afford to get anything wrong. It's a classic "same but worse" second album.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing I think they got wrong was not giving Romy a few more takes at vocals on some songs (esp. "Tides")
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
dan i think you're the only one that likes the album in the entire world. all these list placements are payola.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
isn't that what the P stands for in DJP?
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
Despicably Juicy Payola
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
dj purée
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
dion's sharp puncture-marks
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Stereogum Top 50 Albums:
http://stereogum.com/1210661/stereogums-top-50-albums-of-2012/franchises/listomania/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
No XX, no Animal Collectors
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
nice to see a number one i love!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
cool to see the swearin' album on a list, that thing rocks
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
a+ list format (1 page and a sample for every album)
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
ahaha the commenters are all despairing about the presence of taylor swift and the absence of father john misty and death grips
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
more like father john mimsy amirite
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
"No Alt-J? No Polica? No Death Grips? No respect."
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Could someone please explain to me how Red is a better album than R.A.P. Music? Or Sweet Heart Sweet Life? Or Habits and Contradictions? Or Bloom or Sun or Ocean Roar?
SO MUCH BETTER
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
wonderful explanation.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
Yes and no. Art is subjective, yet anyone can tell that, in terms of craft, theme, subtext, etc, Van Gogh’s art is objectively better than your 3-year old’s stick drawings. On that note, was Taylor Swift’s album better than Sharon Van Etten, Beach House, Killer Mike, or a crapload of artists who didn’t make the list (Father John Misty??)? No way.
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
YES
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
i remember thinking we'd genuinely stamped out rockism by means of LOGIC in the 00s and yet it seems to be more rampant than ever
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
just gonna type father john misty like "Father John Misty??" from now on
that is his name now
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
haha dude maybe among a circle of critics but never among people who care about animal collective
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
Commenters never seem to understand the ballot-tallying aspect. You see them saying "OK, maybe that should be 15-20 but it's not good enough for the Top 10", which is basically saying that seven voters could like it but not ten. I think they really believe that a list is drawn up and painstakingly sequenced by a central committee weighing up, say, Taylor Swift vs Killer Mike, using a whiteboard and flipcharts.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
you would think that people that care enough about stereogum to get worked up over this list and comment on it would have seen this coming based on what stereogum's coverage has evolved into, but alas
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.cafwd.org/page/-/images/blog/florida_hanging_chad_recount.jpeg
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Commenters never seem to understand the ballot-tallying aspect.
i know right! even when you explain it to them! every year!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Weszy Rosen | Posted at 11:55am
Exactly, she may be popular, but everything else on Top 40 stations is one big four-on-the-floor synth jam dance fest.
Small anecdote: I drove home for Thanksgiving and the only radio stations my friend’s car would pick up were Top 40 which: fine all right okay that’s cool, but they kept playing this one song that had every line end with “on the flooooor”. It was the most grating thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ha ha. "Taylor Swift?????"
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:23 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark
the j lo track?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
ask Weszy.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Is that a photo of Farmer John Misty?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
that killer mike lp was cringe enough at the time let alone still picking it after however many months hindsight
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
I think they really believe that a list is drawn up and painstakingly sequenced by a central committee weighing up, say, Taylor Swift vs Killer Mike, using a whiteboard and flipcharts.
tbf I really wish this would happen more often.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
NPR/Uncut catnip though it may be, I love the Father John Misty record. Who's with me? *silence across ILX*
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
Has Rick Rodd even made any other lists?
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, Ross
Hmmmm thats a different Fushitsusha album on the Wire list than the one on my own top 10.
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
There were two fushitsusha albums this year, both on heartfast
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
Confusing! One of them is on Spotify, but I don't know which it is.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
I think they're supposed to be the first two parts of a trilogy
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for both Fushitsushas (a tie). Kinda thought others would do the same - I mean, how do you choose between Fushitsusha albums (unless one of them is Origin's Hesitation or the one Zorn produced, of course)?
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
I see that one of the wire voters picked the second of the two as his album of the year, so maybe that's why it did better
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
that killer mike lp was cringe enough at the time let alone still picking it after however many months hindsight― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:29 AM (51 minutes ago)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 10:29 AM (51 minutes ago)
wait, what? i listened to it for the first time in a while today and it sounded better than ever
do people dislike that record??
― alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
rtc does. I liked Reagan, probably need to hear more
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
This is literally someone who The Wire put on their Top 50. This video is maybe the best thing since Salem at Fader Fort.
http://vimeo.com/32733990
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
you might laugh at the idea of casio + loop pedal jams, but he's not doing it particularly badly. so many macbook + ableton + apc dudes do so much less at their shows.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
i just now realized that you weren't saying "this is literally someone who put 'the wire' in their top 50" -- i couldn't understand what you were talking about. the internet is poisoning my brain.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
it's very "department talent show at Google"
would rather watch/listen to this than Salem tho
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
The Killer Mike record certainly holds up.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
it's very "bar mitzvah boy performs for his friends, june 1987"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
otm. i was groovin'. lol'd when he had to remove his scarf
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
huh I just got to the point where it sounds like someone in the audience is being drawn and quartered
weird show
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
wait did someone really just shout "YIPPIE"
Heatsick is playing in my town tomorrow night, unfortunately I have work and stuff so can't report back.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
dude looks uncannily like a former roommate who plays Irish fiddle semi-professionally, down to the uncomfortable dance moves
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Listen to the third song.
http://open.spotify.com/album/529d8NsQkkkBKkIaleAKZX
― Andy K, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
i'd be disappointed if he didn't look like an awkward grad student
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Steve is good, fuck the haters.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
steve!
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry I didn't see this earlier, but I really like it too. Nowhere near as mopey as I expected, in fact quite joful and even funny at times. I was really surprised by it.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/87/Keyboard_cat.jpg/220px-Keyboard_cat.jpg
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
It has the same kind of slow, environmental build as The Necks music does, which I like
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
It has the same kind of
slow, environmental build
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
FUCK, that was supposted to be strikethru
It has the same kind of slow, environmental build nummy num kraut-jazz goodness as The Necks music does, which I like
was disappointed there wasn't any fiddling on this after my last post
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
dying @ keyboard cat
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
TS Heatsick Steve vs Seasick Steve
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slIHk6QytcM
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
I love keyboard cat, I don't see what the problem is there...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
which band were people comparing to the necks, amongst the above exchanges?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
heaven forbid i listen to even a second of the wrong band and discover something i didn't intend to discover.
steve
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
i have to listen to stu and bernie's albums first but i'll try to check it out soon
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
loving this julia holter record btw... such a rich collection of sounds.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
julia!
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
the holtmeister
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
that's what her friends call her
Yeah that Julia Holter album is great, I love how each track seems to end up in a totally different place from where it began without seeming meandering.
I've come round to the Frankie Rose album as well since the nights have been drawing in. Not sure I've seen that one anywhere.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
Thought the Frankie Rose was insubstantial; only "Pair of Wings", corny as it is, held up to repeated play for me.
Julia Holter album is fantastic, of course.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like there's loads of this sort of ethereal pop about but the level of detail in this really separates it, and the different tones, very easy to become dirgey with this kind of sound but as you say, it's pretty bold in terms of how it jumps from one mood to another. can tell it'll be one i listen to for a few weeks.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
Sad to see the Marissa Nadler and Georgia Anne Muldrow albums pass under everyone's radar; both albums are career highlights for me.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
I never got around to listening to Julia Holter; rectifying that now
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
i saw goody john misty with the devil
― I have done bad. I love my pj's. (zachlyon), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:27 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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Love this as well, but after half a dozen listens those transitions start to feel forced, as if too over-conscious of the genre she's playing in. Sometimes I think the songs could've subsisted - and have been great - w/ just a small amount of consistency. "Marienbad" manages to avoid this, but I thought it was especially noticeable on songs like "In The Same Room" where songs would transmutate not out of necessity but a seeming desire to keep things from ever being overtly pop
― kelpolaris, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
still putting the record in my year-end top 5 tho, it's incredible
I thought goddess eyes I and II were so dominant that they made the rest of the album seem a little less alive. still a nice album, though...
― Dan S, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:39 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
one list w/ Rich Forever so far and have seen zero with God Forgives, nobody repping for that garbage
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
have to say it was a huge relief that people stopped pretending Ross was great this year
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://entertainment.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-albums/
Time has come today
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
"rich forever" should be on more lists, i guess ppl just forgot about it because it was released in january and yeah because the album didn't have a huge impact. but it's still great, listened to it just the other day
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
it was in my top ten until a few weeks ago
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
rich for ten months
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
Lol
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
Honestly releasing an album in the first Q is like saying "fuck critical concensus" or "we so trill it hurts"
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
I'll let Animal Collective know.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
Vampire Weekend too.
yeah or even, can you imagine, in december
i dont have a top ten but there weren't many other rap albums in 2012 that i enjoyed more
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that too
Not mad at Time's list
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Diddy's the only one I can think of recently that was really hurt by the December release thing.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying that dropping in Jan means no one will remember you in Dec guys
Just that the odds aren't great
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
true.
jon otm: Diddy and R. Kelly in Dec '10 most egregious examples.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
T.I.'s record is dropping in a couple weeks, right? not that he needs critics necessarily, but i thought it was supposed to be his serious old man rapper album.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
Last Train To Paris took more than a year to grow to its current critical stature, don't think it would've mattered that much if it dropped in June (although i voted for it at the time ha)
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
T.I. ain't gonna win with critics this time around either way
state vs radric davis was released dec 2009 iirc, i'd say it hurt gucci's hipster buzz. also, chief keef's album is coming out dec 18th
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, December 5, 2012 6:09 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
among who? what is its current critical stature? all i know is a bunch of ilxors love it, haven't heard much else. if anything it was hurt by being released same time as mbdtf
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to that Heatsick EP again on my way out tonight and I'd forgotten about the terrible sub-Calvin Harris singing on the second track. Still enjoyed it though. Steve!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
There's singing? Somehow I blocked that out too...
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
lol it's true: loving Last Train to Paris has drawn more wtf reactions from non-ILX friends than any record I've championed in the last few years.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunately it's not sub-Clifford Harris singing.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying LTTP's rep has grown tons -- but i think the Dawn Richard EP will appear (or maybe already has) on more lists this year than it ever did, and that speaks volumes
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
mmm yeah ok i feel you
― flopson, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
If Last Train To Paris had been released earlier it would have been number 2 on my albums of 2010 list rather than number 3.
I dopn't know that its general critical stature has grown, maybe more a case of people who loved it at the time now shifting the dialogue towards it being a "lost" classic. That shift will definitely help its longterm rep.
What Dawn has done since definitely feeds into that, but has she appeared on any lists other than Guardian and Gorilla vs Bear?
― Tim F, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, let's do some of this thing:
Wire Magazine - Avant Rock A-Z
Aluk Todolo - Occult RockOren Ambarchi - Raga Ooty/Nilgiri PlateauOren Ambarchi - Sagittarian DomainJessica Bailiff - At The Turned-Down Jagged Rim Of The SkyCrazy Spirit - s/tRichard Dawson - Magic BridgeFushitsusha - Mabushii Itazura Na InoriHowling Hex - Wilson Semiconductorsthe One Ensemble - OriolePeople of the North - Steep FormationsSwans - The SeerAlexander Tucker - Third MouthAlexander Turnquist - Like Sunburned SnowflakesTwo Wings - Love's SpringRichard Youngs - Amaranthine
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
Have no idea who half of those artists are. Anyone know what the Richard Youngs is like?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Critical Beats A-Z
Blacksmif - And The Sun Rose OutBoddika - Acid JacksonChunky - RuggedCoki - OnboardFunkystepz - JiggaJME - 96 FuckriesLorca - Love Like This (Lorca Refix)Mr Mitch - Super FreakPsychemagik - Valley of Paradise (Time & Space Machine Remix)Randomer - We Laugh, We ScreamMyth Rychards - Rock Rock The SpotSBTRKT - Hold On (Sisi Bakbak Remix)Shy One - Aztec BwoySilkie & Swindle - UnlimitedVisionist - Control This
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
I heard that One Ensemble album is ace but can't verify that for myself.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
^ all Joe Muggs picks btw xp
Oren Ambarchi ones are great if you like Ben Frost-style tense and menacing guitar soundscapes
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
Richard Youngs releases have confused me this year cos there's been a few of them. I've heard both Core To The Brave and Rurtain which are both excellent and very much on the noisier side of things. Think I missed Amaranthine. Is it vinyl only or something?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'd heard CttB and Rurtain as well, Amaranthine completely passed me by...turns out it even got a Pitchfork review, and there's a couple of tracks streaming here: https://soundcloud.com/miemusic/sets/richard-youngs-amaranthine
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Electronica A-Z
Bee Mask - Unripe PearsCarter Tutti Void - TransverseVladislav Delay - EspooDiamond Version - EP1Fay - DinMark Fell - Sentielle Objectif ActualitéRussell Haswell - FactualHeatsick - DeviationRobert Hood - Motor: Nighttime World 3Khan Kurra - World View EPKonx-Om-Pax - Regional SurrealismLukid - Lonely At The TopMonolake - GhostsNHK'Koyxen - Dance Classics Vol 1Andy Stott - Luxury Problems
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Magazine - Hiphop A-Z
Chief Keef - Back From The DeadFuture - PlutoGucci Mane - Trap BackGunplay - Bogota Rich: The PrequelKa - Grief PedigreeKing Louie - Val VenisKendrick Lamar - good kid, mAAd cityStarlito - Post Traumatic StressTy Dolla $ign & Joe Moses - WHOOP!Shy Glizzy - Law
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
Have been enjoying that Bee Mask album today.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
emil.y will be chuffed to know that the Telescopes made Byron's Size Matters list
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
Wire - Outer Limits A-Z
Stephen Cornford - Binatone GalaxyAngharad Davies/Tisha Mukarji/Dimitra Lazaridou-Chatzigoga - OutwashAaron Dillaway - Modern JesterKevin Drumm - ReliefHelm - Impossible SymmetryEli Keszler - Catching NetThomas Koner - Novaya ZemlyaJason Lescalleet - Songs About NothingPerispirit - Spiritual Church MovementMichael Pisaro & Toshiya Tsunoda - CrosshatchesVanessa Rossetto - Exotic ExitFloris Vanhoof - Cycles of ConfusionBen Vida - esstends-esstends-esstendsJohn Wall & Mark Durgan - John Wall & Mark DurganNate Young - Regression Vol 3: Other Days
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
Dusted have started their EOY features (they don't have a big best-of list, just individual writers' lists): http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/category/38
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
Aluk Todolo album is great, Sean
― in a year with thirteen goons (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
who did the hip-hop list for the Wire, Noz?
― it just might not jive with you (fadanuf4erybody), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
I like "Modern Jester," but I wish I liked it MORE. Nothing compares to "Chain Shot," basically.
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
I need to scope out those Nate Young regression discs
Seriously if I get an iTunes GC for Xmas it's gone in a blink
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
that looks like a Noz list alright. Never heard of Shy Glizzy tho
― Number None, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
The Wire hip-hop list is by Noz and Jack Law.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
i'd like to see a lot more of Ka's Grief Pedigree on these lists
― alpine static, Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Glad to see that Aluk Todolo showing up, its a fantastic record. Black metal krautrock.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
not that anyone will be around to fact check this but i get the sense that LTTP will pop up on many more "half-decade" or w/e lists than it did on EOY lists. i think it's starting to get its due as people start to pay more attention to dawn and realize that diddy was doing dark r&b obsessed w/ sade years before any of these clowns
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:55 (eleven years ago) link
by people you mean "us" right
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
nah it has resonated beyond ilx
― RIP Gramp C (some dude), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
well, I also included critics but if artists have noticed then awesome.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 13:16 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Was this confirmed as a prankpost?
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
what is a "prankpost" smh
"springsteen" is such a great song though, it's basically like a male version of t-swift's "tim mcgraw" (which as we all know is the finest song ever written by anyone, like, ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2gGXlW6wSY
sucker for any song with the lyric "funny how a melody sounds like a memory" in the chorus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:47 (eleven years ago) link
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT! I heard it once earlier this year on...Paul Gambaccccccccini's Radio 2 Saturday night US chart show, had been trying to remember it ever since. Boss tune.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
idk sadly i don't really see anyone on the LTTP train who didn't love it at the time - diddy is STILL treated as a joke by the critical consensus, you rarely even see LTTP discussed or referred to (glaring in an era when its concerns and sounds should make it far more of a thing than it is). in a weird way i think what (again, relatively little) praise dawn has garnered is almost despite her diddy connections.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, I just realized that the Compilation for a Cat bandcamp is empty :(
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'd agree with Lex really, I think Dawn is gaining a rep as people forget that she was in that diddy girl group.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Clash magazinehttp://www.clashmusic.com/features/the-top-40-albums-of-2012
1. BOBBY WOMACK The Bravest Man In The Universe (XL Recordings)2. ALT-J An Awesome Wave (INFECTIOUS MUSIC)3. FRANK OCEAN ‘Channel ORANGE’ (MERCURY)4. DEATH GRIPS ‘The Money Store’ (EPIC)5. GRIMES ‘Visions’ (4AD)6. EDWARD SHARPE AND THE MAGNETIC ZEROS ‘Here’ (VAGRANT/ROUGH TRADE)7. FLYING LOTUS ‘Until The Quiet Comes’ (WARP)8. DJANGO DJANGO ‘Django Django’ (BECAUSE MUSIC)9. BETH JEANS HOUGHTON AND THE HOOVES OF DESTINY ‘Yours Truly, Cellophane Nose’ (MUTE)10. GRIZZLY BEAR ‘Shields’ (WARP)11. JACK WHITE ‘Blunderbuss’ (XL Records)12. GANG COLOURS ‘The Keychain Collection’ (BROWNSWOOD)13. TAME IMPALA ‘Lonerism’ (MODULAR)14. KENDRICK LAMAR ‘good kid, m.A.A.d city’ (AFTERMATH / INTERSCOPE)15. KINDNESS ‘World, You Need A Change Of Mind’ (FEMALE ENERGY/POLYDOR)16. NENEH CHERRY AND THE THING ‘The Cherry Thing’ (SMALLTOWN SUPERSOUND)17. THE XX ‘Coexist’ (XL)18. THE WEEKND ‘Trilogy’ (ISLAND)19. THE MACCABEES ‘Given To The Wild’ (POLYDOR)20. EFTERKLANG ‘Piramida’ (4AD)21. ANIMAL COLLECTIVE ‘Centipede Hz’ (DOMINO)22. SWANS ‘The Seer’ (YOUNG GOD)23. LIARS ‘WIXIX’ (MUTE)24. POLIÇA ‘Give You The Ghost’ (MEMPHIS INDUSTRIES)25. JIMMY CLIFF ‘Rebirth’ (ISLAND)26. SHACKLETON ‘Music For the Quiet Hour’ (WOE TO THE SEPTIC HEART)27. PERFUME GENIUS ‘Put Ur Back N 2 It’ (MATADOR)28. MATTHEW DEAR ‘Beams’ (GHOSTLY INTERNATIONAL)29. CHROMATICS ‘Kill For Love’ (ITALIANS DO IT BETTER)30. MICACHU AND THE SHAPES ‘Never’ (Rough Trade)31. ACTRESS ‘R.I.P.’ (HONEST JONS)32. DZ DEATHRAYS ‘Bloodstreams’ (HASSLE)33. JAKE BUGG ‘Jake Bugg’ (MERCURY)34. MARCONI UNION ‘Different Colours’ (JUST MUSIC)35. THE VACCINES ‘Come Of Age’ (COLUMBIA)36. JULIA HOLTER ‘Ekstasis’ (IGetRVNG)37. BRETON ‘Other People’s Problems’ (FATCAT)38. YEASAYER ‘Fragrant World’ (MUTE)39. THE SHINS ‘Port Of Morrow’ (Columbia)40. Willis Earl Beal ‘Acoustmatic Sorcery’ (XL)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
How many lists have both Death Grips albums?
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i think most people steadfastly refuse to believe dawn and kalenna had any agency in it to begin with
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly - glorified back-up singers.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
That Clash list has the worst case of one album too late that I've ever seen.
― Tim F, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't seen any Dawn press that has downplayed or sneak dissed D-DM -- Danity Kane on the other hand
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
it's an odd situation because on the one hand it's the peg for covering her at all, on the other it's a peg that affords her attention but not necessarily respect
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
also a lot of this is skewed by so much of her coverage coming from US
Eww, this Edward Sharpe album is not nice at all.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
More Fact:http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/03/the-50-best-albums-of-2012/32/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
one of my most open-minded and pop-loving IRL music friends asked me if i was joking around when i put LTTP on my year-end list
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
that jeremih mixtape may be the most inexplicably over-praised of 2012, even in a year when frank ocean and the weeknd existed. wtf do hipsters love about it so much? SO NOTHINGY.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
stop acting a sucker with that H-word shit
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
it's just R&B you don't like, and that's OK
ppl who rep for that jeremih mixtape are not what i'd call "hipsters"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Hipster party?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
That Silent Servant album is terrific btw, DJP might like that one. One of the guys from Sandwell District, creepy late-night tube carriage sort of ambience.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
In case anyone is still paying attention to the Guardian's endless rollout, their #7 is that Alt-J album. Never heard it myself.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
it's a load of willy wee.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I gave it a spin a couple months ago after I'd determined it wasn't some witch house shit (that name, oy!). I'll give it this...it doesn't really sound like much of anything else that's out right now. However, just because that's the case doesn't mean it's all that great.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
As a card carrying hipster, dues fully paid, I'd like to defend that Jeremih tape. Or at least Rosa Acosta.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
what a token hipster video chick choice
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I was just about to say "hipster is a category only ever applied to other people" but Josiah has gone and contradicted that, in any case, fairly banal statement.
― Neil S, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
Specifically other people who like OMG SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT things to oneself.
What you gonna hate on next, Adorn? Miguel = Hipster Music.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I like "Breezeblocks" from Alt-J, but the album devolved really quickly into some sub-Dave Matthews shit, complete with the strained ballad singing and "world music" signifiers that actually aren't.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
Silent Servant is FANTASTIC btw, holy shit
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:27 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
disagree tbh lol
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of funny to me to read breathless "zomg it's techno-meets-noise!" descriptions as if 80s/90s industrial dance never happened, though; this really reminds me of a quieter, dubby version of the Doubting Thomas album from 1991
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yay! Really goes off at about track 4.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Curious what DJP would think of Ugandan Methods, or Kareem. Check it.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
Rev said this already but R&B/urban music is pretty hipsterish these days in general -- if you're listening to more than 4 R&B albums/mixtapes a year and checking for stuff like Jeremih then i'm going to class you as an R&B fan and nevermind to that other self-hating cultural anxiety horseshit.
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters like R&B it is tru
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
I was at a chicken wing sports bar last night and the jukebox had the goddamn Weeknd.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters like chicken wings it is tru
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
they eat the wings with forks and knives
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
i said this earlier this mo. but i think im ok w/ going back to calling ppl 'hipsters'
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
the era of 'cmon who still says hipsters' is over, imo
do you credit Taylor Swift for this development
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
thing is even things that WERE certifiably 'hipster R&B' a year ago like Weeknd/Ocean are now topping album sales and radio airplay charts and getting Grammy noms so hanging onto that idea is pointless no matter how you use it
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
what up my hipsta
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Noted British hipsters: Funkystepz, contributed a few Weeknd remixes this year.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
basically calling anyone a hipster in earnest is just a way of calling someone a dickhead that makes you look like a bigger dickhead imo
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:24 AM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
r&b fans becoming hipsters doesnt mean hipsters stop existing they are just more inclusive
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:25 AM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
see thats been the prevailing logic but i think maybe its time for a retrenchment of anti hipster sentiment
it's what they DON'T rep for that's more telling. basically you can call them any synonym for dickhead you want, but if the only r&b you rep for is the slow sad dude shit (and lolbass remixes), i see u
t-swift feels me!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
cosign silent servant love - DJP you should check out some sandwell district!
You make it very hard to be annoyed at you, Lex. Even if Taylor Swift is still incredibly..not..my...thing.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Wire hip hop list is p good although i think shy glizzy is not as good as noz seems to
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Lex's 180 on the FACT magazine nodding-not-dancing UK bass stoner crew has been a joy to behold and I fully approve whatever the consistency of logic regarding the Birthday Sex dude.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
FACT magazine nodding-not-dancing UK bass stoner crew
when i liked it you could dance to it, is the difference
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
or, it had hooks, and was fast
im kinda w/ lex that the new jeremih record was not all that
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
also i have always hated on the worst song on an otherwise amazing album
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is totes hipster music, his album cover looks like janelle monae's
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
good music tho
miguel's explicitly said he was aiming for the indie hipster audience with this album
i mean, it's really great and all, but there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
The couple of Alt-J songs I listened to reminded me of tUNe-yaRds - or maybe I'm confusing them with Django Django.
― o. nate, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
OH MY GOD I DIDN'T REALISE UNTIL NOW WHAT THE ALT+J COMMAND ACTUALLY DID LOOOOOL, SUCH WALKING CLICHÉS
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
but there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored
This is true of basically any genre that has a mainsteam corner to it.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
True, there is "hipster country" I guess, like maybe Justin Townes Earle, which gets more critical love than mainstream country, though less than pop-country like Taylor Swift.
― o. nate, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
ignored by who? people like different music for whatever reason, it doesn't make them a hipster or indeed a dickhead. it's just their taste in music. you talk about rockism but my main memory of ilm railing against it was that it was about refuting the notion of received wisdom, or the idea that one piece of music was factually better than another.
people's right to personal taste is sacrosanct and above all else.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
X-post Pop country rests like an oppressive smog over the rural areas of my homeland, I feel righteous in my hate.
― Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored
Because it sounds significantly different? Surely every genre has people who like one aspect of it but not others. It's not all-or-nothing.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
There's a difference between individuals liking what they like and a critical establishment pretty much ignoring a hefty swathe of a given genre that doesn't fit a particular aesthetic but that's how the vagaries of fashion work. But R&B isn't exactly unique in this regard.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
ah okay i agree with this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
It's not about fashion. It's about records being on the border of their genre and thus appealing to people who don't love the conventional tropes of that genre. It's the same process as any crossover record ever.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
and the nature of a "critical establishment" in whatever sense those establishments matter anymore.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
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they dont disappear tho, they just become more diffuse. there are still dividing lines between acceptable & not
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
true, but they are definitely less influential as far as i can tell. plus you know, people can decide things for themselves. whether that's to agree with what they read or not. everyone is capable of doing this.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
But there are many different borders to any genre and different ones tend to cross over at any given time according to wider musical trends. The kind of R&B that was crossing over 10 and 5 years ago is totally different to the stuff that's crossing over now.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, sure. I don't understand why this is a problem or down to the "critical establishment" though.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
I hate the critical establishment. Sitting around in their leather easychairs like overgrown potatoes, smoking pipes and ignoring true r'n'b.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
something like Elle Varner's "Refill" makes zero waves w. ~hipsters~ why is this & is it fair & etc
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, its not because its BAD because its not a bad song, it's a great one. but there are some choices it makes that are not coding as 'cool'
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
the idea that all hipsters like similar music, or even are similar people, or that there even is common ground among the vast array of people who one might brand a hipster, is pretty misguided. there's not even a need to say this surely?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
Even though we can hear pretty much whatever we want to at any given time, there's still only limited listening time and a mindboggling and terrifying volume of stuff out there so it's hardly surprising that tastemakers (not just critics) are still influential and important, people still gravitate towards the things that are getting the most buzz. People can judge for themselves obviously and gratifyingly there are still instances of hype bandwagons falling flat on their faces.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
Even though we can hear pretty much whatever we want to at any given time, there's still only limited listening time and a mindboggling and terrifying volume of stuff out there so it's hardly surprising that tastemakers (not just critics) are still influential and important, people still gravitate towards the things that are getting the most buzz.
but it's still their opinion as to whether they like a given thing. nobody is controlling that. and realistically if you are unhappy with what is being provided you have more freedom than ever, today, to either find music yourself, or to find other places that recommend it.
plus the consensus isn't so hard-wired anyway, it's not as if eg pitchfork dominates chart radio or mass media.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it's because the eclectic music fan simply doesn't have time to delve into every single facet of every single genre they are remotely interested in? and therefore they'll turn to the work of artists and groups covered by eclectic (but maybe indie/alt-leaning) sites to begin with?
i just can't abide this whole "OMG you are so stupid for liking (crossover genre artist) and not even giving (non-crossover artist) the time of day".
it's not because the latter is being outright ignored - it's because they slip under the radar of the general music fan.
this has and will always be the case for all genres. getting angry about it is utterly futile.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
that was xposts
In fairness, R&B gets probably more hostility and outright dismissal than pretty much any other mainstream genre.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
metal?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
if i got annoyed every time someone harped on about mastodon and no other metal band, what would be the point in that?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
Except metal, and country, and world music, and I'm sure even more.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
from which people? statement means nothing without specifying
r&b is massively popular.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
r'n'b saturates the musical landscape where i live. it's very much what most people listen to when i'm out and about. even in my market town there's a dedicated r'n'b club.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of u guys are being hella defensive. idgaf what R&B you like or dont, but surely you recognize that there is this thing called "cool," and some very good music is not very cool, and is overlooked because of it
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
loads of good music is overlooked, but people's definition of "cool" varies massively from person to person.
don't know why someone simultaneously would hate "hipsters" and complain they don't like the same music as them, if they're indeed worthy of disdain.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
what very good music is not very cool?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
i mean god, the idea that all music we value should get "equal dues" or something... how on earth could someone ever reconcile what that even means? it's fucking ludicrous.
It's because you hear R&B all over the place that there's this really vehement dislike of it. I'm not even remotely talking about people who might in any way code as 'hipsters' here, just mainstream people I've met over the years, loads of them, who are into fairly straight-down-the-line indie or dance music who just fucking hate it, the very essence of it.
You probably get exactly the same thing with country in the US. Metal is not a mainstream genre.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
wanting everyone in the world to like the same music as you is bonkers, can we at least agree on that?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
because to them it's the mainstream, just as to someone here pitchfork is the mainstream, it's all just perception of what the status quo is and the natural human tendency to distance oneself from it as best one can with the tools available.
it's not as if hating the very essence of a music genre isn't done on ilm all the time.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
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i don't hate hipsters! but i think its fair to say that elle varner's refill is not popular w/ hipsters & that this says something
this doesn't have anything to do w/ my particular tastes; i like ty$ and i think he could easily become hipster-cool whereas "refill" doesnt really feel like it has that potential but i think it's an amazing song too. there is a certain quality about some music that is independent of good or bad that ppl gravitate towards or away from
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
there is a certain quality about some music that is independent of good or bad that ppl gravitate towards or away from
fair enough. though i think it's fairly arbitrary what music gains this quality and why... "cool" music has a tiny bit more in common at a given time than "uncool" music but still think it's arbitrary.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
because to them it's the mainstream, just as to someone here pitchfork is the mainstream, it's all just perception of what the status quo is and the natural human tendency to distance oneself from it as best one can with the tools available
Yeah I agree with that, even if a lot of the people I was referring to were probably Kaiser Chiefs or Coldplay fans there's still that oppositional thing going on.
it's not as if hating the very essence of a music genre isn't done on ilm all the time
I totally agree. I still think it's more vehement and possibly nastier when R&B and to a lesser extent rap are concerned, anything that codes as 'chavvy' to enough people in the UK really.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's funny how people seem to be pretending that things like image, which other acts an artist positions themselves with, PR angle etc have no effect on who gets hype or buzz
kalenna, elle varner, jade alston, keyshia cole, nikkiya, lyrica anderson, estelle, nina sky, even (relatively) dawn richard <= little to no buzz this year even though they made music that was as good or better than ocean, weeknd, miguel, jeremih
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
also r&b has no "chart" presence atm and has not had any for years
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
fair enough, matt, i agree with you really. i just feel the need to play devil's advocate whenever this notion of the unthinking masses is invoked. it is uglier, i agree, when it's about people perceived as lesser or whatever.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
do you have a way of proving their music was better?
does elle varner need buzz?
― ogmor, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
FWIW I am pretty much talking about everyone except hipsters here. If you go into the right kind of hipster bar in East London you're probably more likely to hear Cassie or Ciara than a lot of indier R&B.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
just mainstream people I've met over the years, loads of them, who are into fairly straight-down-the-line indie or dance music who just fucking hate it, the very essence of it.
mainstream people hating a mainstream genre more than any non-mainstream genre? (for argument's sake let's put entire genres into pot a or b)
lots of metal has bled into mainstream in the past tho. maybe r&b has become less mainstream (can only think of a handful of artists still big in this respect e.g. beyonce, usher...) in the way metal has...in the way every clear-cut genre or idea has?
― nashwan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm. There might be something other than image and positioning that differentiates one lot of artists from the other.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters are sexist!
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
now proven by science
well they'll always have the manic pixie dream girl of the indie-r&b set solange
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
you mean that some are empirically good and others empirically bad?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
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lex isnt being helpful by arguing that the underrated ones are better than the overrated ones but i think there's a middle ground here where we acknowledge that it's not some magical 'the cream rises to the top' reasoning that ppl looove the weeknd and ignore elle varner
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Fwiw it makes total sense that FACT of all publications would go for one lot and not the other because it's screamingly obvious that they and a sizeable chunk of their readers go a bundle on anything that's dark and moody and smokey and don't really seem to rate anything that's lighter or more upbeat or might involve girls sounding like they're enjoying themselves.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
it's a combo of factors that's pretty hard to extricate. and it's different for lots of different people. it is a bit unfair to start speculating about people's tastes like this, not least given the actual listenership of these acts does not divide neatly into male critic pitchfork readers v whoever else...
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh this lone album is sweeeet btw
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
Top five, Grammy-nominated Elle Varner had little-to-no buzz?
― Andy K, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
I listen to and like almost all of the artists in Lex's pro-camp (except I'd never be so nuts as to argue that Lyrica Anderson is more worthwhile than Miguel or Frank Ocean), but it seems like what's going on here is that critics/the masses/"hipsters" or whatever are drawn to singularlity, artists whose aesthetic or songwriting voices are so different or distinct from their peers that they can't help but stand out. I don't see why that's such a conspiracy.
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
I also don't see how it's different from the metal, country or alternative rock bands that get the most buzz. The ones that are uniquely different are the ones that get the most shine.
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
don't think this is true at all
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
<I>artists whose aesthetic or songwriting voices are so different or distinct from their peers that they can't help but stand out</i>
Or back story or PR angle
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
like i'm not way familiar with everyone lex listed but nikkiya, nina sky, dawn richard --> all "artists whose aesthetic or songwriting voices are different or distinct from their peers"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I think that's true of Dawn Richard. But Nikkiya, who I love, is more than anything just an exceptional example of the form. That's great, but artists breaking from the form is always going to be the flashier draw for a lot of people
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
(Nina Sky doesn't count because I don't think most of what they do is all that good)
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
Um I'm on my phone and can't post links but if you think Nikkiya is just standard r+b, er, wow
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Lex, I don't go into any hipster bars in East London. Can you recommend any real ale pubs in North London where I will hear the R&B you commend?
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:37 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this distinction is nonsense btw
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
i know thats what theyd like to think they perceive
wait, so now we're not even acknowledging that Frank Ocean/Miguel et al are even different from other R&B? Come on
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Sadly the link to Jackin' Pop no longer seems to exist
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
{I}xpost Lex, I don't go into any hipster bars in East London. Can you recommend any real ale pubs in North London where I will hear the R&B you commend?{/i}
I once heard teedra moses in the library (I think it's called that?) next to high + i stn! Literally leapt out of my seat to ask the barmaid about it, she was a huge teedra fan and we bonded over it. I don't know about real ale though
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
there's definitely a gender angle to it, i think that's undeniable. it's much harder for female r&b singers to connect w/ a community that's largely male than it is for a male. the year everyone finally hopped on the-dream's nuts was the same year no critic gave a shit about electrik red, for instance. or, like, personally i don't see a huge distinction between the looniness of mariah carey and the looniness of r kelly (pre-trapped days) and yet r. kelly was approached critically for years despite mariah having some songs on the level of "ignition"
there's also a marketing angle to it. indie people immediately jumped on the weeknd in part because they were aiming for that audience (and for a few other reasons like that no one knew who he was) & miguel getting love from places like stereogum & w/e is in part because they specifically targeted a "hipper" audience (i.e. zombies interpolation + otehr less overt things). frank ocean speaks for itself, obviously.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Not radically so? No more so than some of the other names discussed? Idiosyncrasy and distinctiveness comes in many forms, not just the self-conscious and heavy-handed? But in any case I'm fucking sick of r+b getting praised because it's so fucking ~different~ to other r+b
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
In more "site throws up list" news, Drowned in Sound have revealed their 100-6:
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145819-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--100-51http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145822-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--50-26http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145829-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--25-6
Nice to see a placing for the "Lee Ronaldo" album.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not the hugest dawn fan BUT she is doing something that is unique AND very in vogue right now & i think if she was a mysterious dude with a cool tumblr presence & slick marketing scheme instead of an ex-girl group singer that her music would be a very big deal right now
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
I hear Solange and Dawn Richard essaying the same kind of ethereal melancholy.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer Lee Ronaldinho.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
this is kinda interesting to me cuz ime dawn richard (and d-dm) are probably the hippest r+b artists mentioned so far itt
― f (Lamp), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
apparently Killer Mike made the album I was hoping Big Boi would make this year
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:09 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark
http://i.pinger.pl/pgr288/bd175d5900092daa5012d83c
― r|t|c, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/trend-of-the-year-alt-rb-2012-frank-ocean-weeknd-miguel
feel like we're just now turning up itt
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Fucking hell DiS even the NME isn't desperate enough to throw a sympathy rep to 2012 Bloc Party.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
#turnup
rlly looking forward to andy k & rtc ilx reaction posts
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
I've seen references to "this Lone album" and "that Lone album," but not in any of the lists. Does it have a title?
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
it's "galaxy garden" fastnbulb
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
I really slept on this Nikkiya record then, mostly because Speak Her Sex was my least favourite think on Trunk Musik. It's really distinctive as well, who else is doing those orchestral soundtracky cut-ups?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
xp: Here's a Spotify link: http://open.spotify.com/album/7fuV2dWa1XwIqAxYaMwc4I
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Do How to Dress Well and Santigold get more mentions than Georgia Anne Muldrow and THEESatisfaction? If so, probably won't bother to read it.
― Andy K, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
omg Santigold did actually get namechecked
lolololololololol
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
i need to check out that whole theesatisfaction record
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Idolator:
http://idolator.com/7316212/best-albums-2012-year
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
keeps crashing my browser or else i would tell you what was in it
i will say that he's not really exaggerating the crowd anticipation/reaction to frank's set at lolla
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
as andy feared its a v v myopic view of basically R&B as a genre since the 80s
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
immaCommented on this photo:
Fiona Aplle it’s the only good artist on your list! the rest SUCK
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
Ok I didn't expect to see Loreen there.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
"It's one of the most consistent and listenable albums of 2012" is very faint praise for your number one album of the year
― Evan R, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Idolator top 10:
1. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream2. Taylor Swift - Red3. Jessie Ware - Devotioin4. Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE5. Loreen - Heal6. Bright Light Bright Light - Make Me Believe In Love7. Beach House - Blom8. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city9. Carly Rae Jepsen - Kiss10. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
blom
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
the Lee Gamble album on the main Wire list is pretty cool. Collages of ambient breakdowns from mid 90s jungle tunes.
― brimstead, Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
listening to Bright Light Bright Light right now and between this dude and Owl City, The Postal Service has so much to answer for
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
there's a Bright Light Bright Light now?
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
how does Bright Light Bright Light compare to Lights and Pretty Lights, or Ellie Goulding's "Lights"?
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
All of the lights.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes that's the other one
― crüt, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
There's also Brightblack Morning Light, who I think are supposed to be quite good? But I can't remember what they even sound like.
― emil.y, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
it bears mentioning that the gender balance on R&B radio is very male these days -- Trey Songz/Chris Brown/Usher/Miguel/etc. all commanding much more of the airwaves than pretty much any woman besides arguably Beyonce
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Thursday, December 6, 2012 11:55 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think the topic of the shifting nature of cool is an interesting one right now and demands a degree of nuance and flexibility that is impossible when the H word flattens everything into a mush of received opinion
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
the H word
hella?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
can't believe i missed d-40 talking about hipsters for 80 posts today
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
you got me feelin hipster good so let's just keep on dancin
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
xp The discussion on what defines "hipsters" and "cool" is tempting, but kind of a black hole I don't have time to dive into. I'll just say that Cody ChesnuTT doesn't seem to be considered cool or hip in most peoples' eyes, but I'm not gonna bitch about it ;) Dorky prog isn't cool but someday maybe!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
cody chesnutt is a good example of a great R&B record this year that hipsters aint fuckin w/
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
whoa, thx for the warning, i will avoid wasting my time on Bright Light Bright Light.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
well also the chessnutt record is pretty boring, dope singles tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
hipsters used to like Cody Chesnutt though right? I'm confused
― Number None, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Cody Chesnutt is considered un-friendly to "hipsters" but honestly I didn't know he released a 2012 record until just now. People who remember him from 10 years ago would probably be happy to hear whatever he's been up to.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think Cody Chesnutt is considered un-friendly to "hipsters" but honestly I didn't know he released a 2012 record until just now.
question asked, question answered
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Cody ChestnuTT became cool the same year as Interpol, what happened
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i never heard any of his shit besides "The Seed 2.0" which was trash
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
if only there was some way for some dude to find the time to hear an album and form an opinion.
alas
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
wait i'm supposed to have listened to it in the 12 minutes since you brought it up?
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
oh no sorry Fastnbulbous brought it up 14 minutes ago
lol whiney I'm hardly a hipster.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
"The Seed 2.0" which was trashregardless, people know this song and he has name recognition. If the album is that good, I'm surprised it wasn't more widely reviewed.
xpost that's not my point. did you know that Solange put out a record this year?
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
i knew CC and S both put out records this year, for the same reason from the same media outlets (if not in the same quantities)
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
i mean 6 months you were going "R&B skimming hipsters are sleeping on this guy called USHER and this guy called R. KELLY" so who knows what you're even talking about
no one is talking to you al
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
lol sorry after you directed one post at me i assumed the next one was as well
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh you were asking me? yeah i heard Solange's EP. it's good.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
i'm saying that Solange is reaping the benefit of "cool" (read: """"""HIPSTER"""""") media outlest giving it mad props, while the Cody album is flying under the press radar, even though its prolly selling much better
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
the CC was reviewed on Pitchfork and hasn't charted on Billboard, do you have any idea how many R&B albums the inverse is true for? weird example.
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
I did like "The Seed" more than Interpol until I heard it in a "Six Feet Under" episode and that's where it went
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
"reviewed" and "has constant updates about" are two different things breh, stop playing babe in the woods here
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
hey i realize its critical profile is not high, i just don't buy the imaginary "prolly selling much better" populist argument
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
CC appeared on Billboard's R&B/Hip-Hop and Heatseeker charts; Solange has not yet
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
although apparently the EP has only been out a week
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
Solange debuted at #157 on the Billboard 200 this week
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
lol that's what I get for searching Billboard for "solange knowles"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
Get a room you two
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Come to my job and we'll all vibe an listen to Dreamchasers
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
wait do you want us to get a room or have a Meek Mill vibe threesome w/ you?
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=MuhWblBjbrI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMuhWblBjbrI
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
Meek mill party. Only that.
Long day folks, sorry
This thread becomes a lot more fun if you imagine Meek rapping it like he's having a seizure
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
CUMMINGS TO MY HOUSE PARTY PARTY
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
i actually am listening to "amen" right now but that's not a very aggro choice
BITCH IM A BOSS
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
Ok, back to hipsters and R&B, carry on
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
dont even understand this thread any more
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
I think one more pair of square quotes around HIPSTER in Whiney's post would've closed the loop for me, as it is I'm scanning his entire being as ironic.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/50-best-albums-of-2012-20121205/bruce-springsteen-wrecking-ball-19691231?stop_mobi=yes
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
DeRogatis:http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2012-12/forget-grammys-here%E2%80%99s-derogatis%E2%80%99-best-albums-2012-104230
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
D0ugl4s W0lk in Time:http://entertainment.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-albums/slide/the-mountain-goats-transcendental-youth/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, whoops, that starts here:http://entertainment.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-albums/slide/killer-mike-r-a-p-music/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see the BBC are continuing their efforts to single-handedly keep Emeli Sande in a career: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2012/12/bbc_music_top_25_albums_of_2012.html
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
NickB - did Wire publish a classical list?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
from DeRo's Miguel blurb:
Finally breaking from the weight of expectations as well as genre constrictions, Kaleidoscope Dream gives us an artist with a unique vision, boundless potential and a weird haircut every bit as notable as that distaff visionary working similar turf, Janelle Monae. And wouldn’t those two be a concert double bill to die for?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
DeRogatis :Channel Orange - On his first album, this 24-year-old New Orleans native offers a vision for remaking R&B that’s arguably as powerful as those from greats such as D’Angelo, Prince, Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye. Heartfelt, sensual, sexy but devoid of sexism, these tracks are lush and inviting but never less than unflinchingly raw and honest.
Folks just trolling Lex atp
― pandemic, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah they did J, but I mostly just typed in the lists where the names were short. Maybe I'll do that one in a bit though.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - Trouble
this better be fucking amazing, with that name
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
you'd be surprised
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
Nick - no worries if you can't. Might have a browse this w/e.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
tally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - Trouble
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, December 6, 2012
well, no, his name is Jim DeRogatis actually.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
haha I'm listening to Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs now ("Promises") and basically I'm mad at myself for buying in so quickly
apparently I'm just a syncopation whore
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ugh. Any talk of remaking/transcending R&B puts me in Lex's camp. I'm cool with big crossover "statement" records getting more press than well-crafted examples of the genre because it's been like that since forever, but I hate the idea that it's automatically superior to all the stuff the writer hasn't heard. And there's definitely a genre bias - hip hop and R&B are presented as if they need "transcending" when indie doesn't.
xp Emeli Sande had the second or third biggest selling album of the year in the UK. I don't think she's been waiting desperately for a nod from the BBC website to make her feel good about her career.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
She has the top selling one actually:http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-biggest-selling-albums-of-2012-so-far-revealed-1736/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea...the only time she impinged on my world was at the Olympics opening/closing. Everyone else on that list seems more famous to me.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Remarkable that 80% of the top ten are British. Is that a new thing?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
xp Oh there you go then. I assumed it was Adele now and forever. Weird that only 4/10 of those came out this year. And who knew Paloma Faith was that big?
Lol at the commenters telling the Official Charts Company that their list is wrong.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol I just got called a hipster like half an hour ago *likes r&b*
tbh I had no idea Cody Chesnutt released an album this year and I loved Headphone Masterpiece
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
liked the idea of headphone masterpiece more than the execution
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's one of those albums that's a total mess and I wouldn't want it any other way.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
It does strike me as odd that this whole conversation was sparked by Jeremih, who isn't really by any estimation one of the tastemaking hipsters lex would decry, in spite of his attempts to lump him in. I mean, he's pretty obviously following trends here, rather than setting them. You might as well get upset at people for liking Melonie Fiona.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah, the reason it became a convo is because an example as batshit as Jeremih was used. making a mixtape with DJ Drama and 2 Chainz and Mike Will Made It, what a hipster!
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Hey Julio, because Ike hair:
Wire Modern Composition A-Z
William Berger/Iain Burnside - InsomniaJohn Bishoff - Audio CombinePhilip Blackburn - Ghostly PalmsJohn Cage - Etudes AustralesJohn Cage - Sonatas & InterludesEdison Denisov - Au Plus Haut Des CieuxBarbara Monk Feldman - The Northern ShoreMichael Finnisy - Second & Third QuartetsHans Werner Henze - In Lieblicher BlaueAnnea Lockwood - In Our NameAnthony Pateras - Collected Works 2002-2012Katharina Rosenberger - TexturenSkogen - Ist Gefallen In Den SchneeFrances White - In The Library Of DreamsJoanna Wozny - As In A Mirror, Darkly
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha irl hipstars i knew (jordan knows them too no judgement) rlly like this jeremih record & didnt like him previously. i think it v literally comes down to the album art
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
new graphic designer = new audience
yeah but that constantly happens -- pop artist is popular, slowly spreads to different audiences, including late pass hipsters
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yah im not really arguing or anything
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's all good
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
Is BBC the first list to have Roman Reloaded?
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
it was on the Spin list too
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
DeRo's list is weird--didn't he give the Frank Ocean a middling review on the radio show last summer? Still, kinda happy to see Aimee Mann on a list, since it probably won't make my top 10.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 December 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
this thread is too huge now for me to find julio's beautifully prescient comment abt dylan/the wire, but reading my copy of the mag this morning, this made LOL:
"Has Dylan's voice ever sounded better?" - David Keenan on Tempest
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
Still think Dylan sounds a bit like Louis Armstrong on bits of the new album.
Not sure if anyone's actually linked to the BBC list so here it is, complete with out-of-the-blue Dexy's choice at #3:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2012/12/bbc_music_top_25_albums_of_2012.html
Also that's... quite a list of voters. Feels a bit weird to see past and present ILXers in there with Tim Westwood and Skream.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
Also Britishes, was that Emili Sande album massive from the get-go or did she get an enormous post-Olympics bounce?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
that dexys album is not very good.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
Emili Sande strikes me as the ultimate Jools Holland fodder
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
the empirical evidence of my 10-year-old niece loving emeli sande since long before the olympics suggests that she's always been a bit massive.
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
she's currently flogging mobile phones in some lame cinema advert, also (sande that is, not merdeyeux's niece)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm... The Kendrick album is very good, but judging from a lot of these lists you'd think it was the only hip hop album released in 2012.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
2012 is the first year of the century that neither Jay-Z nor Kanye has released an album, so a new token rap pick was urgently needed.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Emeli Sandé's debut single was one of 2011's biggest even if a complete red herring for the boring-ass (but no more so than Adele) album
Any hip-hop lists that don't acknowledge Angel Haze are not to be trusted tbh. Kendrick's good though, could be worse
Xp the good music album though?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly don't feel like Cruel Summer qwas significantly worse than Watch The Throne and prob better than My Beautiful Stupid Fantasy. I jam Mercy and Clique in a satisfyingly mindless way
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
The Angel Haze album is let down by too many slow and emo tracks, it starts to drag madly by the end. Wish there was a bit more balance.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
Still dunno why Americans pronounce it "click" though
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
Angel Haze's emo deep thoughts are precisely what make her ~important~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but Cruel Summer wasn't a Kanye solo album in even the way Watch The Throne was
"Clique" got old fast, kind of a secretly crappy song.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
Well she could do with framing those thoughts better, the album starts to feel mad repetitive in the final third.
BTW has anyone done an edit of Jungle Fever with the first third removed?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link
Btw have you heardthe song Angel Haze did with Rudimental?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
I keep meaning to listen to it but haven't actually got round to it? Is it any good?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
Yes!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, December 7, 2012 2:57 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
so many tracks you can vibe out to at 2am with your laptop ;)
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, December 7, 2012 2:59 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, total opposite of "Mercy", which I immediately rolled my eyes at but turned out to be a secretly really good song
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:01 (eleven years ago) link
so many tracks you can vibe out to at 2am with your laptop ;)― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:59 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ooooooohhhhhh.... zing!
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
no, because Angel Haze talks about real shit in discomfiting detail, rather than drawing on a vague, cichéd and ultimately meaningless ~melancholy~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, something like her "Cleaning Out My Closet" is the kind of thing that the 2am laptop crew and their comfort blankets of reverb literally do not know how to deal with
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
haven't music journalists always stayed up past their bedtimes slaving over a hot laptop/computer monitor/typewriter though? what's changed? (serious q)
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
probably harvest my best crops in the 2am zone tbh
got my laptop connected to a monitor though, no flies on me
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
I dug the first Angel Haze mixtape that Lex raved about in 2010 maybe? But haven't liked this year's stuff bar one or two tracks.
Glad to see First Aid Kit make a couple of lists.
― pandemic, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
night time is a nice time for listening to music, never up till 2am though unless i'm out of the house.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
i generally eat a banana for breakfast, if you wanted any more banal routine facts.
have to say i'm also getting increasingly frustrated with this pervasive hazy indistinct shoegazery sound that's become so ubiquitous across the music spectrum in recent times. i love heaven or las vegas and loveless as much as anyone, but i also like SOLID sounds damnit. so often these reverby washy effects sound like they've just been thrown on in post-production to cover up sub-par musicianship. kevin shields spent a hell of a long time perfecting his sound, toying with feedback and guitar effects to achieve it. somehow i feel that shoving everything through a distortion module on your laptop is missing the point.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
i'm struggling to think of many examples of things that came out this year that weren't swathed in some excessive amounts of reverb, flange, delay, chorus etc... something cleanly-produced, clipped even, like (just for example) an early Talking Heads number. i don't mean back to basics - i'm not a production luddite at all; but applying these fx in such a haphazard way until they "sound cool" is such a tiring and trying way to produce music.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
Lex, it's funny hearing you talk about "important" music because perceived "importance" is precisely why Frank Ocean and Kendrick are getting all the attention that strikes you as annoyingly disproportionate and I wouldn't be surprised if Angel's first official album benefits critically in exactly the same way next year.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 7 December 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
Bleep albums of the yearLegowelt - The Paranormal Soul Robert Hood - Motor: Nighttime World 3 Daphni - JIAOLONG Nathan Fake - Steam Days Lukid - Lonely At The Top Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes Grizzly Bear - Shields Tame Impala - Lonerism Tim Hecker & Daniel Lopatin - Instrumental TouristActress - R.I.P.
Bleep reissues of the yearVarious Artists - Personal Space Various Artists - Filtered Various Artists - The Minimal Wave Tapes: Volume Two Various Artists - TREVOR JACKSON presents METAL DANCE Ike Yard - S/T Various Artists - Only 4 U: The Sound Of Cajmere & Cajual Records 1992-2012 Can - The Lost Tapes Nite Jewel - Good Evening Cults Percussion Ensemble - Cults Percussion Ensemble
― Neil S, Friday, 7 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
Holy crap, "Ocear Roar" is MASSIVE
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 7 December 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
FACT Magazine - Albums 2012
1. KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID, M.A.A.D. CITY2. LEE GAMBLE - DIVERSIONS 1994-1996 / DUTCH TVASHAR PLUMES3. COOLY G - PLAYIN’ ME4. HORRID RED - CELESTIAL JOY5. SPACEGHOSTPURRP - GOD OF BLACK6. HOW TO DRESS WELL - TOTAL LOSS7. JAM CITY - CLASSICAL CURVES8. TERRENCE DIXON - FROM THE FAR FUTURE PT.29. SWANS - THE SEER10. WOLFGANG VOIGT - RÜCKVERZAUBERUNG 611. Actress - R.I.P.12. Jeremih - Late Nights with Jeremih13. Madteo - Noi No14. Julia Holter - Ekstasis15. Sand Circles - Motor City16. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange17. I:Cube - "M" Megamix18. Wiley - It's All Fun & Games19. Lana Del Rey - Born to Die20. Silent Servant - Negative Fascination21. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful22. Future - Pluto23. Heroin in Tahiti - Death Surf24. The Internet - Purple Naked Ladies25. Main Attrakionz - Bossalinis & Fooliyones26. Grimes - Visions27. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch28. Ariel Pink & R. Stevie Moore - Ku Klux Glam29. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy30. Supreme Cuts - Whispers in the Dark31. Nas - Life is Good32. D'eon - Music for Keyboards vol.133. Altered Natives - Tenement Yard vol.334. Lorenzo Senni - Quantum Jelly35. Young Smoke - Space Zone36. Gunplay - Bogota Rich: The Prequel37. Le1f - Dark York38. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream39. Black Breath - Sentenced to Life40. Bat for Lashes - The Haunted Man41. Cocaine 80s - Express 0G EP42. Schoolboy Q - Habits and Contradictions43. Carter Tutti Void - Transverse44. Triad God - NXB45. Robert Aiki Aubrey Lowe - Timon Irnok Manta46. Purity Ring - Shrine47. The XX - Coexist48. Haleek Maul - Oxyconteen49. Helm - Impossible Symmetry50. Bigg Jus - Machines That Make Civilization Fun
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like i need to clarify that i had NO INPUT WHATSOEVER into that fucking dreadful list
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
5. SPACEGHOSTPURRP - GOD OF BLACK6. HOW TO DRESS WELL - TOTAL LOSS11. Actress - R.I.P.12. Jeremih - Late Nights with Jeremih14. Julia Holter - Ekstasis16. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange21. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful22. Future - Pluto24. The Internet - Purple Naked Ladies25. Main Attrakionz - Bossalinis & Fooliyones26. Grimes - Visions28. Ariel Pink & R. Stevie Moore - Ku Klux Glam46. Purity Ring - Shrine
^^these albums in particular need to go fuck themselves
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
still at least no laurel halo eh
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that was a little surprising really
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
At this point, I don't think I will ever understand the fascination with Lana Del Rey
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
LDR is getting mid-table positions everywhere, if anything that's a falling-off from the early-year hype (and a reflection that the album is only half good even by its own standards)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
"Half good" is super charitable
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
if I hadn't opened this thread I might never have learned that Ariel Pink made a record called "Ku Klux Glam" in 2012 so while that's on A.P. I'm still kinda cheesed at this thread
xp peace out Lana Del Ray I look forward to answering questions about you at my local trivia night in 2017
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
I agree Born to Die's only half-good but it's getting deserved props for being a big-selling (in Europe anyway) pop record that offers an alternative to an increasingly homogenous and self-parodying norm. She has at least done it her way.
The Lee Gamble album is such FACT-bait it's hilarious. It's good but melancholy hypnagogic renderings of old drum'n'bass rave cassettes is just too perfect a concept for FACT.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 7 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
well, obviously you had to be the sort of person who was into "video games" in the first place
as someone who did, i thought the album was a failure in that it showed up the rickety shtickiness of the entire project but even so there are 5-6 keepers that i tend to listen to when i'm ill or hungover.
xps
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
I might never have learned that Ariel Pink made a record called "Ku Klux Glam"
Ha aero, wait till you see the cover of it o_O
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
linking cos NSFW:
http://pitchfork-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/content/pink%20moore.jpg
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
the people who treat LDR as someone sort of joke or punchline are reaching just as hard as the people pretending she's some sort of lynchian genius (are there even any of the latter left?)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
Ariel Pink is a joke, right? I mean no one actually likes him?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
Simon Reynolds album of the year iirc
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
As an entertainer, being different is meaningless without also being entertaining. Obviously what is entertaining varies between people but it still hits my incredulity threshold that "theatre kid with no vocal control braying over a harp and timpani" met that need for so many people.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
There's something a bit sad about Bleep.com plumping for Grizzly Bear and Tame Impala as well.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
xp On a really basic level I think Video Games is about the chord changes. The same guy co-wrote Bat for Lashes' Laura. He's good with the chords.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, if "Video Games" was done in a higher key with a singer more sensitive to nuance and dynamic shading, I might enjoy it.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sexPTYJ4fbo
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
kinda starting to think the bbc's list might somehow end up being the least irritating of all
it has a nondeclarative randomness i suppose
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
Haha nope DL, there is just something about the way this song is put together that fundamentally irks me.
I think the phrasing is awkward, particularly how the verse melody is built almost entirely on successive leaps between vocal registers that make most singers sound labored and disjointed; compare this to "Laura" where the interval leaps are mostly within the same register and movement between them is done with stepwise motion. This isn't to say that there aren't contexts where a lurching, queasy melody isn't desirable, but I'm not convinced that "Video Games" sells it well enough.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
i've said this elsewhere but everything to do with writing/production on the ldr album was totally fucking lazy and halfassed
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
like regardless of whether i thought she was a joke or not, most of the ppl who worked on that record clearly did
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
eg?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
i think the production is too much, actually - very little is as sparse as "video games", too often the songs are sort of slathered in unnecessary strings and get corny vaguely hip-hop beats and samples tacked on to them.
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:52 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...
well then.
first thing: everyone on the production side of this should be ashamed of themselves--it's a terrible sounding record. portishead by way of a st vincent depaul thrift store with no polish, no cohesion, no ideas. it seriously sounds like it was put together by a bunch of old guys who have no idea what is cool and what might actually sound good. after it was over i immediately put on the precedent for what this record should have sounded like: mono - "life in mono" c. 1997 which at least had some *style* not a bunch of dorky mashed together beats and strings.
second thing: ldr herself. i think we all agree that she's talented but she is either not comfortable with singing, or not comfortable with singing this music, or she just doesn't have much of a natural ear. i heard so much odd phrasing and timing, when she would slip into and out of different voices it was just awkward. she's best doing the deep droll-y voice but they also try to make her sing high and breathy and then like a big pop singer and then doing some weird pseudo-rap thing that i don't even understand. like the production, this all could have been fixed with time and effort but no one seemed to really care.
last thing: there were times where i could close my eyes and try really hard and see the trashy/kitschy fun of some of this (and that's an aesthetic i strongly dislike to be fair) but the album just vacillates too much between that and moments of legitimately embarrassing material and moments that are just so joyless and po-faced that i can't imagine how someone would enjoy this as a pop record. oddly my fav track is "this is what makes us girls" which is kind of awful but is at least *about something* and seems to wink a bit unlike most of the other songs which seem to be the lyrical embodiment of that video where ldr doesn't do anything except embrace the guy with tats.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, February 1, 2012 11:57 AM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
this sun araw thing is pretty cool.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
were you thinking of beach house throughout this post?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
haha CAD I think I said this on the original thread but thanks again for reminding me of Mono
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
no prob :)
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:39 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark
i'd assumed he was just trying to create something more banal than your breakfast 'nana
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
hey ship, not sure whether you're a dude who thought dashboard confessional was an elaborate joke or not, but the new further seems forever record seems in your emo/modern rock wheelhouse? it might end up in my list
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O35DonBT4vQ
some pensive scarf-wearing in the video
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
Rolling Stone's Top 50 Albums of 2012
50 Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan49 Amadou And Mariam - Folila48 The Smashing Pumpkins - Oceania47 Todd Snider - Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables46 Muse - The 2nd Law45 Rick Ross - Rich Forever44 Garbage - Not Your Kind of People43 fun. - Some Nights42 Allo Darlin' - Europe41 The Avett Brothers - The Carpenter40 Escort - Escort39 Passion Pit - Gossamer38 Titus Andronicus - Local Business37 Justin Townes Earle - Nothing's Gonna Change The Way You Feel About Me Now36 Bobby Womack - The Bravest Man in the Universe35 Grizzly Bear - Shields34 Alabama Shakes - Boys & Girls33 Grimes - Visions32 Hospitality - Hospitality31 Taylor Swift - Red30 Azealia Banks - 199129 Dave Matthews Band - Away From the World28 Beach House - Bloom27 Gary Clark Jr. - Blak and Blu26 Django Django - Django Django25 Donald Fagen - Sunken Condos24 G.O.O.D. Music - Cruel Summer23 Divine Fits - A Thing Called Divine Fits22 Bonnie Raitt - Slipstream21 Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory20 Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music19 Band Of Horses - Mirage Rock18 Nas - Life is Good17 John Mayer - Born and Raised16 Cat Power - Sun15 Dr. John - Locked Down14 Best Coast - The Only Place13 Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas12 Jimmy Cliff - Rebirth11 Mumford & Sons - Babel10 Neil Young and Crazy Horse - Psychedelic Pill09 Japandroids - Celebration Rock08 Green Day - !Uno!07 Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - Here06 Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city05 Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...04 Bob Dylan - Tempest03 Jack White - Blunderbuss02 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange01 Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Funny that it took RS to remind me there was a new Amadou & Mariam album. However as compelled I am to check out way too many albums I hadn't heard yet than is probably good for me, I don't think I'm motivated to subject myself to the John Mayer, DMB and Donald Fagen.
Finally heard Solange's True EP and was slightly disappointed. It's pretty good, but too samey mid-tempo groove. The Orchid Heretic EP, however, f-yeah! Having a tough time with Laurel Halo's voice so far but haven't finished it. What do you all think the Wire staff liked about it so much?
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 7 December 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
I for one tune out the moment I see Mumford on any of these lists.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
Drowned in Soundhttp://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4145840-drowned-in-sounds-favourite-albums-of-2012--5-1
=1) Blondes - Blondes=1) Chromatics - Kill for Love=1) Liars - WIXIW=1) Swans - The Seer=1) Sharon Van Etten - Tramp6) Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel Is Wiser ...7) Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!8) School of Seven Bells - Ghostory9) Aesop - Rock Skelethon10) Julia Holter - Ekstasis11) Frank - Ocean Channel Orange12) Chairlift - Something13) Twilight - Sad No One Will Ever Know14) Polica - Give You the Ghost15) Perfume Genius - Put Your Back In 2 It16) Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d City17) Jessie Ware - Devotion18) Killer Mike RAP - Music19) LHF - Keepers Of the Light20) FOE - Bad Dream Hotline21) Twin Shadow - Confess22) Motion Sickness of Time Travel - Motion Sickness of Time Travel23) Django - Django Django Django24) Cat - Power Sun25) Deftones - Koi No Yokan26) Yppah - Eighty One27) Errors - Have Some Faith in Magic28) John Talabot - Fin29) Melody’s Echo Chamber - Melody’s Echo Chamber30) Cloud Nothings - Attack On Memory31) Efterklang - Pirimada32) Actress - R.I.P.33) Metric - Synthetica34) The Lost Rivers - Sin & Lostness35) Crystal Castles - iii36) Field Music - Plumb37) Grimes - Visions38) LV - Sebenza39) Blood Red Shoes - In Time To Voices40) Lana Del Rey - Born to Die41) Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan42) Japandroids - Celebration Rock43) The Maccabees - Given to the Wild44) Grizzly - Bear Shields45) Muse - The 2nd Law46) Scott Walker - Bish Bosch47) Yeasayer - Fragrant World48) Echo Lake - Wild Peace49) How to Dress Well - Total Loss50) Bloc Party - Four51) Shearwater - Animal Joy52) And You Will Know Us By The Trail of The Dead Lost Songs53) Earth - Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light II54) Sigur Ros - Valtari55) Death - Grips The Money Store56) Andrew Bird - Break It Yourself57) Bat for Lashes - The Haunted Man58) Tindersticks - The Something Rain59) Eight and a Half - Eight and a Half60) Leonard Cohen - Old61) The Cribs - In the Belly of the Brazen Bull62) Future of the Left - The Plot Against Common Sense63) Purity Ring - Shrines64) The xx - Coexist65) First Aid Kit - The Lions’s Roar66) The Shins - Port of Morrow67) Orbital - Wonky68) Neil Young - Psychedelic Pill69) Tame Impala - Lonerism70) Stumbleine - Spiderwebbed71) Exitmusic - Passage72) Diiv - Oshin73) El-P _ Cancer 4 Cure74) Richard Hawley - Standing at the Sky's Edge75) Lower Dens - Nootropics76) Halls - Ark77) Dirty Three - Toward the Low Sun78) Magnetic Fields - Love at the Bottom of the Sea79) Nils Frahm - Screws80) The Walkmen - Heaven81) BATS - The Sleep of Reason82) Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes83) Ghosting Season - The Very Last of the Saints84) dEUS - Following Sea Guide85) Dan Deacon - America86) Darren Hayman and the Long Parliament - The Violence87) why? - Sod the Seed88) Lee Ronaldo - Between The Times and the Tide89) Passion Pit - - Gossamer90) Beach House Bloom91) I Like Trains - The Shallows92) Anais Mitchell - Young Man in America93) Spiritualized - Sweet Heart, Sweet Light94) Bruce Springsteen - Wrecking Ball95) Alt-J - An Awesome Wave96) John Cale - Shifty Adventures in Nookie Wood97) CFCF - Exercises98) Hot Chip - In Our Heads99) Hey - Sholay ((o))100) Cursive - I Am Gemini
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Appropriate that that sad Cursive album finally made a list, in the saddest way possible
― Evan R, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
Did anyone bother to check out the dEUS album?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Oh god, I have only just got the terrible Diiv - Oshin pun
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny, The Ugly Organ was close to being the best album of 2002 or 2003 or whenever it was released. it's a shame they've hung around and turned into such a useless band
― charlie h, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
I still think they have some creative life in them—Mama I'm Swollen was great—but by nature what they do is hit-or-miss, and Gemini was one nasty miss
― Evan R, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Good for DiS for ranking why's "sod in the seed" ep and not the album proper.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
Wire Modern Composition A-ZWilliam Berger/Iain Burnside - InsomniaJohn Bishoff - Audio CombinePhilip Blackburn - Ghostly PalmsJohn Cage - Etudes AustralesJohn Cage - Sonatas & InterludesEdison Denisov - Au Plus Haut Des CieuxBarbara Monk Feldman - The Northern ShoreMichael Finnisy - Second & Third QuartetsHans Werner Henze - In Lieblicher BlaueAnnea Lockwood - In Our NameAnthony Pateras - Collected Works 2002-2012Katharina Rosenberger - TexturenSkogen - Ist Gefallen In Den SchneeFrances White - In The Library Of DreamsJoanna Wozny - As In A Mirror, Darkly― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Appreciated Nick - checking out an interview with Rosenberger
Finnissy and a rec of Etude Australes (arguably the last great piece of his) are obvious highlights.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
That Ariel Pink record's cover would make more sense (and be 10,000x more awesome) if it was called Ku Klux Clam.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
points off for not being "Klam"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
The KKK took my baby's vajayjay...
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Klan Slam (thank you ma'am)
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, December 7, 2012 10:30 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha yes dashboard stigma may be too much for me
― some dude, Saturday, 8 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
Dummy's 20 best songs:
20. CFCF – Exercise 5 (September)19. DELS – You Live In My Head18. Girl Unit – Ensemble17. Angel Haze – Cleaning Out My Closet16. TNGHT – Higher Ground15. Holy Other – Held14. Disclosure – Latch (feat. Sam Smith)13. Darkstar – Timeaway12. d’Eon – Al-Qiyamah11. Mykki Blanco – Wavvy10. Evian Christ – MYD9. Main Attrakionz – Love is Life 8. Kendrick Lamar feat. Gunplay – Cartoons and Cereal7. Jai Paul – Jasmine6. Jessie Ware – 110%5. Kwes – Bashful4. Kanye West feat. Big Sean and Jay Z – Clique3. The xx – Fiction2. Dean Blunt feat. Inga Copeland – The Narcissist1. Usher – Climax
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 06:30 (eleven years ago) link
dying at this writeup from al's blog, part about "stop trippin, you can't control that freak" otm
3. Trey Songz f/ T.I. - "2 Reasons"#7 R&B Hip-Hop Songs, #43 Hot 100This year one of my favorite pet obsessions was to track the growing number of clappers on on urban radio, mostly because it'd been kind of an otherwise unremarked-upon phenomenon, but also because no one producer owned the sound, and pretty much every one that tackled it had their own take. And my favorite in 2012 was definitely "2 Reasons," which is just a fucking killer beat with all these squeaky turnarounds in the synth and an utterly ridiculous kick drum. I've always been kinda hot and cold on Trey Songz, but he's reliable with club bangers, and this one-ups "Bottoms Up" and even my beloved "Say Aah": "stop trippin', you can't control that freak" may be the single greatest vocal moment of his career. And unlike pretty much every other song on this list with a guest rapper, T.I.'s verse actually adds to the song. If the ignorant chorus bothers you, it's always easy to come up with replacement lyrics; my personal favorite is "I ONLY CAME HERE FOR 2 REASONS: DEEEEEEZ NUTZ!"
― flopson, Saturday, 8 December 2012 08:01 (eleven years ago) link
"stop trippin', you can't control that freak" may be the single greatest vocal moment of his career
yes
― teledyldonix, Saturday, 8 December 2012 08:40 (eleven years ago) link
the way the drums knock on that part of the song is so sick too
― some dude, Saturday, 8 December 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
I'm always distracted by T.I.'s hipster R&B outfit in the video clip.
― Tim F, Saturday, 8 December 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
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― some dude, Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i kind of resented my first exposure to songz' 2012 material being in album form, he's such a singles artist but you can't help resent him a bit when you have to listen to 18 tracks or however many for work
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Saturday, 8 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Man that Dummy list is weird, not at all what I'd expect from them. It's a poll with a very small sample size though, sure to be somewhat random.
― viborg, Saturday, 8 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I had to stop riding for Songz as an album artist when he put out an album I could not get through this year. Ah well.
― Evan R, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, December 6, 2012 12:05 PM (2 days ago)
wtf at putting miguel in the second camp
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
a, bunch, of, artists, i, personally, like, a, great, deal <= better than a bunch of things most people seem to talk about
How is this not the plight of any person ever who actually digs a little deeper for music instead of just listening to the radio and buying, maybe, 6 cds a year?
http://i.imgur.com/DJGup.gif
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't buy any CDs this year
― k3vin k., Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
miguel makes perfect sense in the 2nd group. xp
― billstevejim, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
Well yeah, now the tables have turned and most of the people who still buy ANY cds are the ones not paying attention. Not so long ago, it was the 6 cds people vs. the 150 cds people. Now it's the 6 cds people vs. the 4000 mp3 albums people.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
My baby's ill at the moment and I'm mega tired. I read this entire thread mistaking Cody Chesnutt for Vic Chesnutt, which was confusing on about ten different levels. I was like, I just don't understand anything any more. Why is he hipster R&B, the rules for this stuff are off the grid...
― Doran, Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Life is a mystery, everyone must stand alone, etc.
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 9 December 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
i have no prob with Miguel becoming a critical darling this year because he had literally the biggest (and imo best) R&B single of 2011 and critics fucking slept on him then, "Sure Thing" was #77 on Pazz & Jop. if it took him doing that 2 years in a row for critics to notice, good for them, better late than never!
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 05:16 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah Miguel totally feels like a mainstream artist that indie types have cottoned onto rather than a dude who started with an indier fanbase and took that into the mainstream as The Weeknd/Frank Ocean did.
I'm having trouble placing the dude who made 'Birthday Sex' in any hipster darling's equation as well.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 9 December 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
That would've baffled me, too, had I not read this:http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/jeremih-late-nights-frank-ocean-weeknd-birthday-sex/Content?oid=7249509
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
the Jeremih mixtape is very good but i have no idea how it's 'ambitious' -- it's a mixtape that sounds like a mixtape, has some good producers/rappers of the moment.
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean i love it but i wouldn't call it ambitious in any way and truly i don't see any connection between frank ocean & the weeknd beyond "a mixtape" and it's not like the weeknd and frank ocean were the first ever r&b singers to release mixtapes. there is one song that sounds like the weeknd but that's it.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
basically my least favorite critical stance is "i'm going to force together three records i like by imagining the artistic shortcomings of all the other equally similar/worthy records i haven't listened to"
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
that piece reminded me to listen to that mixtape after everyone on ILM was trashing it but it definitely was really straining for something that isn't there
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
listened to it a fair bit more since the big skirmish the other week, remains fine enough with the exception of 'feel the bass' which i'm surer than ever is up there among the best r&b cuts of the year
― r|t|c, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's a decent mixtape i listened to it a bit. gucci's vere on 'outta control' i love and i regularly catch myself singing 'fuck you all the time' while doing the groceries. not as good as the albums but whatevs it's free music.
― tpp, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
"doing" the groceries? gross, gudda gudda
― some dude, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
are you guys talking about 2 different jeremih mixtapes?
― flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
'late nights'
― tpp, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
oh you mean the piece was straining for something that isn't there nm
― flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Pop Matters' The 75 Best Albums of 2012http://www.popmatters.com/pm/tools/full/166270
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 10 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
This is going to be a bad pun, and I certainly don’t mean to make light of the situation, but Channel Orange was one big coming out party for Frank Ocean as an artist on a number of fronts.
this is why you have editors. theoretically, anyway.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
can't say i've ever seen someone say that channel orange sounds like michael jackson, so that's a new one
love when editors don't think about the fact that a writer is calling the #61 album on their list "the best record of 2012"
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Apparently no one explained what coming out means either
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
I also like how "owning the year" means 56 other albums get ranked about yours
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
Stereogum’s Top 40 Metal Albums Of 2012http://stereogum.com/1215082/stereogums-top-40-metal-albums-of-2012/franchises/listomania/
THKD’s Top 20 Metal Albums of 2012http://thatshowkidsdie.com/2012/12/10/thkds-top-20-metal-albums-of-2012/
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Amanda Palmer owned the year because she raised enough money on Kickstarter to buy it
― some dude, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
any publication that puts amanda palmer in its top 50 should be classified by the pentagon as a terrorist organization
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
i refuse to start on my lists in earnest until finally rich leaks
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
lol you gotta chill, it's an aite album
― D-40, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
as in, wont make my top 10
― D-40, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
do not diminish my enthusiasm deej!
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
i think the phrase you were looking for is "bitch don't kill my vibe"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 10 December 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
bish
― D-40, Monday, 10 December 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
well played, sir
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
sir(s)
Stool Pigeon:http://www.thestoolpigeon.co.uk/features/albums-of-the-year-2012.html
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
The decision to run that as a series of paragraphs in essay form rather than as an actual list is super irritating
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 10 December 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
hey everyone deej has heard the chief keef album i dont know if he mentioned it
― on a clear 乒乓 can see forever (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
all the backpedaling in the "frank ocean coming out party" pun is like dude got a bad idea in his head and he had to like get it out and so he wrote all these loopholes and get-outs and its like maybe you just need another lede, dogg. it's like when cartman hears the first notes of "come sail away" and has to sing the whole song
― on a clear 乒乓 can see forever (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― D-40, Monday, 10 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-comedy-albums-of-2012,89649/
― Mordy, Monday, 10 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
dying @ a/v club braggin about ilx-style point systems
― on a clear 乒乓 can see forever (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
Comedians tend to prepare for their albums meticulously, working out material over months and months to get every beat, every joke to where it needs to be. It’s a long, arduous process, and it may never feel finished.
http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/harvey_head_big.jpg
― on a clear 乒乓 can see forever (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
Stereogum readers top 20 tracks:
20. Chromatics – “Kill For Love”19. Kendrick Lamar – “Sing About Me, I’m Dying Of Thirst”18. Death Grips – “I’ve Seen Footage”17. Jessie Ware – “Wildest Moments”16. Purity Ring – “Fineshrine”15. Major Lazer (Feat. Amber Coffman) – “Get Free”14. Spiritualized – “Hey Jane”13. Solange – “Losing You”12. Fiona Apple – “Every Single Night”11. Dirty Projectors – “Gun Has No Trigger”10. Carly Rae Jepsen – “Call Me Maybe”09. Twin Shadow – “Five Seconds”08. Cloud Nothings – “Wasted Days”07. Bat For Lashes – “Laura”06. Beach House – “Myth”05. Grimes – “Oblivion”04. Tame Impala – “Feels Like We Only Go Backwards”03. Frank Ocean – “Pyramids”02. Grizzly Bear – “Yet Again”01. Japandroids – “The House That Heaven Buil
― monster_xero, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
Chris Richards of the Washington Post listed his top albums and tracks and talked about 'em
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/best-pop-music-of-2012-frank-ocean-leads-list-of-years-top-10-albums/2012/12/05/33bad9e2-3b04-11e2-b01f-5f55b193f58f_story.html
Here's his album list (without his comments)
1. Frank Ocean, “Channel Orange”
2. Neil Young and Crazy Horse, “Psychedelic Pill”
3. Jessie Ware, “Devotion”
4. Future, “Pluto”
5. Janka Nabay and the Bubu Gang, “En Yay Sah”
6. Fresh and Onlys, “Long Slow Dance”
7. Kellie Pickler, “100 Proof”
8. A Tribe Called Red, “A Tribe Called Red”
9. Dierks Bentley, “Home”
10. Laurel Halo, “Quarantine”
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
that Tribe Called Red album is dope but I kind of forgot about it. cool to see it get some props
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zH9wHWMi_k
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that's one thing I picked up from these lists this year. I haven't heard the whole thing yet but plan on listening when I'm in the right mood.
― redress control number (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
Saw A Tribe Called Red Quest show and loved it...
fit well in a club context, really fun time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBCoDAbh3yM
― warm winds and clear skies, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
AVC http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-music-of-2012,89711/1/
24. Pilot To Gunner - Guilty Guilty24. Dion - Tank Full of Blues23. Bob Dylan - Tempest22. Cat Power - Sun 21. Sun Kil Moon - Among The Leaves18. The Walkmen - Heaven18. Future of the Left - The Plot Against Common Sense18. Field Music - Plumb17. The Men - Open Your Heart16. Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas15. Rush - Clockwork Angels14. Grizzly Bear - Shields13. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream12. Divine Fits - A Thing Called Divine Fits11. Kendrick Lamar - GKMC10. P.O.S. - We Don't Even Live Here8. Titus Andronicus - Local Business8. Bob Mould - Silver Age7. Swans - The Seer6. Jack White - Blunderbuss5. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...4. Sharon von Etten - Tramp3. Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory2. Japandroids - Celebration Rock1. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 07:55 (eleven years ago) link
Not enough Beak> in these things.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 07:59 (eleven years ago) link
whenever i read an AVC music list i feel like i'm looking at the opinions of a small group of friends i don't really know on my facebook wall who all like all the same exact taste and enthusiastically love the same boring albums because every time they discover a new one they share it with each other
actually this is most collective lists but AVC is just so boring about it
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
It’s been a momentous year for Frank Ocean: a heart-stopping TV debut on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon that couldn’t help but go viral; dropping off of a tour with Coldplay; being covered by Afghan Whigs; the revelation of an other-than-straight sexuality.
i mean i know this is the AV club but come on
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
I guess that would matter if Frank Ocean is an Afghan Whigs fan.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:07 (eleven years ago) link
the one rap album better than kendrick: p.o.s.
― kaygee, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:10 (eleven years ago) link
On her third album, this “American Idol” survivor finally uses that big voice to sing big songs about no-good men, absentee parents, the ghost of Tammy Wynette and her own backbone, which suddenly sounds as if it were made of aerospace-grade titanium.
aaagh i must remember to go back to this - i remember playing it once and really enjoying it but it totally got lost in the shuffle of a hectic life
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:13 (eleven years ago) link
props for putting popcaan in his top 10 as well
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
"bandz a make her dance" too
it's interesting to see acts that were top 10 in every EOY list with their last album (or last few albums) drop off this year -- Animal Collective the most obvious example but it also looks like Grizzly Bear, The xx, Beach House, Dirty Projecters etc. taking a hit.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link
xp his #1 completely & utterly nukes any props earned subsequently
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
Hahaha wow that is bad.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't even know any Americans ever heard that guy's music anymore. CR is a good dude but i disagree with him as often as i agree with him, kind of respect when he comes out of left field with something like that.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
his #1 in tracks too
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
xxxpost yeah, and those aren't (necessarily) worse albums. the beach house one is quite significantly better than the other stuff they've done. still not fussed about it though.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah the Beach House was the first of theirs that I found myself paying any attention to - I suppose b/c even if lots of stuff around does sound rather like Heaven or Las Vegas this is the first thing I've heard from modern types that really really really sounds like it.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
80s retro-nostalgia vs 90s retro-nostalgia FITE
My problem with the 90s nostalgia stuff (Beach House etc) is that it's always the same 3-4 bands (Cocteaus, Slowdive) who seem to be being referenced by so many new bands. It also seems a lot less inspired than the 80s retro craze of last decade. Rather than, as before, saying "we're inspired by new wave (or) electro (or) synth-pop, but we try and put a modern take on that sound", it feels more like bands like Beach House et al just want to sound like one or two specific acts. My entire problem with BH is that they just make me want to hear Heaven Or Las Vegas to the point I can't get through more than a song or two without this happening.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I agree with you, it has zero individual qualities, but OTOH I can listen to hear it and want to listen to Heaven or Las Vegas w/o necessarily having to put that on straightaway (maybe because I had a binge rediscovery of HOLV about a year ago).
Got zero time for bands wanting to revive Slowdive unless it's the first track on Pygmalion.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
matos:
http://thediscography.tumblr.com/post/37698639441/my-top-tens
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:16 AM Bookmark
Eh, that only works if you take a rather restricted view of what qualifies as "90s nostalgia stuff"
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah well obv.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
which doesn't change anything you say about Beach House, I might add xp
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
Basically dog latin is comparing dance scenes misreviving sounds they never got a chance to dance to with indie bands recreating specific albums they've always owned anyway, even if maybe a few years too late.
A better point of comparison for electroclash would be people reviving early 90s dance signifiers. And a better point of comparison for Beach House would be early 00s post-punk.
Though as usual with decade to decade comparisons there are none that match up perfectly.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
I like Bloom but would not have made the HoLV comparison - don't hear any significant similarity between the two LPs/acts or even eras personally. Likewise I don't think BH are trying to channel any specific act or time period at all in any meaninful way. Don't see why trying to make an LP like HoLV would be a problem anyway tho!
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
Sure, sure. And also the fact I lived through, and was conscious of, the music scene in the nineties probably makes the whole concept of a revival less palatable to me than the eighties revival.
I'm a much bigger fan of the Chairlift album (which is very reminiscent of music I actually heard in the eighties without sounding like anyone specific - maybe the Pretenders? maybe the Mac? not really) than Beach House who seem to be drawing from a tiny pool of very specific cultural touchstones. Same goes with Yuck and pretty much any outre 90s revivalists - you can tell exactly which bands they've decided they want to sound like. I never got that impression from LCD Soundsystem or Fischerspooner or the Rapture - they were referencing '80s sound and fashion, but it somehow felt 'new' in its way and didn't just go for the Fall or Yazoo jugular. You didn't get people trying really hard to sing like Alison Moyet, whereas BH girl really really seems to want to be Elizabeth Fraser.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
obv nashwan disagrees :-)
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
Victoria Legrand sounds nothing like Liz Fraser.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
she does a bit though
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:46 (eleven years ago) link
Her voice is so deep that some people mistook her for a man when they first came out, the lyrics are very clear and she has a continental European accent. In what way does that sound like Liz Fraser?
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
okay, she doesn't sound exactly like her - i am playing that side up. i still maintain that so far the obligatory onslaught of nineties-styled bands feels tokenistic and pretty much a pointless rigmarole that somehow inevitably demands people follow through with. I guess people who'd lived through postpunk and electro felt very similar in the early 2000s. I just don't think this movement (if indeed it is a movement) has hit its stride. It's going through the motions in a kind of "Well, I guess we'd better start sounding like music from 1993 by now" kind of way, and dolefully and dutifully does exactly that.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
Even if they were faithfully copying the Cocteau Twins then calling it "90s revivalism" is stretching the term ridiculously given the vast majority of Cocteaus records that anyone actually cares about came out in the 80s.
It took me about 0.05 seconds to think of three prominent acts who are referencing the 90s without faithfully aping the sound. There are dozens of them out there.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
if her voice reminds me of anyone it's actually Jonathan Donahue and even then the overlap is well under 10%
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
Her voice is so deep that some people mistook her for a man when they first came out
It's true - she still reminds me of either the bloke from Cast or the bloke from the Delays.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 12:58 (eleven years ago) link
All the greats basically.
Matt DC - BH sound like Heaven or Las Vegas more than any other Cocteaus album. How many bands out at the moment seem to fall somewhere between this album and something by Slowdive? It's become such a default production aesthetic in the last few years that I'd be desensitised to it, if, that is, I wasn't so utterly bored and averse to it.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
but this is assuming you hear bands sounding like Slowdive in the same way you hear singers sounding like Liz Fraser right?
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
at Pitchfork while Beach House was playing I told a friend, "She's one album away from abandoning the synths, picking up a tambourine, and twirling like Stevie Nicks."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry dl, but your argument's nonsense. Beach House have such a distinctive aesthetic - it's not like they're part of some big "90s revival", whatever that might sound like. If you think they're just neo-shoegazers then I would suggest you're not listening very closely.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
anyway I like the album better than its predecessors and its gauze reminds me of 4AD acts but I don't hear Fraser in her mannerisms; for one thing, she believes in enunciating.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing i've heard this year that reminded me of Cocteaus = around half of the Sleigh Bells LP (its biggest virtue by some measure). i'd quite happily hear a few others, if actually out there.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not wrong about everything all the time, you know? just quite often.
Anyway, the Quietus have their list up now but their site is running slow.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
There definitely is some Cocteaus in Beach House's sound, but for me it's mostly in the guitar sounds and the unhurried flow of the music
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
Good list! Is that NV on the cover of the Hirsute Pursuit record?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
That was with reference to this btw:
http://thequietus.com/articles/10924-the-quietus-albums-of-the-year-2012
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
vatican shadow in the top 10 :)
my reaction to seeing laurel halo place isn't even annoyance, it's like...i have to restrain myself from pointing and laughing. if you like that dreadful joke of an album then irl lol at you
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
It doesn't reflect my own tastes much but I love the Quietus for its consistent voice - here is a realm where Swans, late Scott Walker and former members of Throbbing Gristle will never go underappreciated.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
i love the quietus list. although i'll never understand their love for VCMG. Totally agree with Swans and Scott Walker in the top two. HAven't heard the TG albums.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
mature attitude.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
it's so grown-up to constantly follow someone around a messageboard nitpicking over their posts!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
love this quote from the Quietus list:
If someone introduces you to something new and it's not going to hurt you, go along with it and see how far you can go - Cedric Myton
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
you make it sound like finding a ludicrously rude and arrogant post takes some work or time.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:31 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Damn son!
― pandemic, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
i said it takes a level of maturity to which i obviously cannot aspire xp
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
not as long as you're pretending you're a 13-year-old
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
it's nice that you've taken on the selfless task of policing every flippant and dismissive post on ilx but i wouldn't want to keep you, there's a lot more out there for your eagle eye to find. run along now
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
lex stop acting like lex
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
what are you fucking piling on for now?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
flippant and dismissive is fine. refusal to show any respect for subjectivity has always been taken to task on ilx and that's what i like about this place.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
cause you're shitting up this thread even more than usual today
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
and ronan isn't?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
disrespect for subjectivity = any time i express an opinion on the rap thread these days
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
The Laurel Halo album is fine. I can see it would be disappointing if you're coming at it from Strawberry Skies and were hoping for something a bit more pop, or maybe if you're coming from Hour Logic and expecting something you could loosely call dancey. But if view it as an outgrowth from stuff like Oneohtrix or Stellar Om Source or whatever else have you, where they're building odd little worlds out of the debris of yesterday's synths, then it makes a lot more sense. It's like she's taking that aesthetic and finding her own way of introducing song into it, as opposed to trying to twist that kind of sonic environment to fit into conventional song form and then singing on top of that.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
would like a remixes LP of Quarantine (mainly aiming just to replace most of her vocals with monstrous beats - drowning them in reverb would help in this case but there's been too much of that generally over the last couple of years for sure). would also like more epic sub-bangers like Hour Logic but with her normal/nice singing on it. not heard her new single yet.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
The new single is very pretty!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
do find the Quarantine artwork describes the sound perfectly. sweetness soured beyond repair. beautiful yet horrendous. apart from the practically instrumental Holoday which is just the former.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
this album is horrible, what the hell
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
xpost One of the things I like most about the Laurel Halo album is that her vocals *aren't* drowned in the usual chillwave reverb. But I also get why others find this annoying.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
i might check it out in that case. why is it so bad?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:27 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that would be great, if she could sing
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
it's even worse because she CAN sing and just...chooses not to
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
You guys are actually making me want to hear the LH album, and I wasn't really very interested before...
― emil.y, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it sounds awesome
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
it's fine, nothing really special one way or the other
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
at least that's how I feel about the first 3 songs
If you're on the Dirty Projectors bandwagon, there isn't much about the way she sings that should bother you too much.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
that's how i got sucked in emil.y and dog latin. I found it dull.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
Here's the Crack Magazine (disclaimer: I write for them, and wrote a few of the blurbs) 25-1 lists:
http://crackmagazine.net/music/albums-of-2012-25-11/http://crackmagazine.net/music/the-top-100-albums-of-2012-10-1/
10. SWANS - THE SEER9. ITAL - DREAM ON8. METZ - METZ7. FLYING LOTUS - UNTIL THE QUIET COMES6. FRANK OCEAN - CHANNEL ORANGE5. KENDRICK LAMAR - GOOD KID. M.AA.D CITY4. THE MEN - OPEN YOUR HEART3. PORTCIO QUARTET - PORTICO QUARTET2. TAME IMPALA - LONERISM1. JOHN TALABOT - FIN
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
^ A list of things I feel like I ought to like, but I really don't. Other than Talabot and Swans. Is this what getting old is like?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
some of the others are okay i guess
Apollo's Bounteous Harvest: The Quietus Albums Of The Year 2012 http://thequietus.com/articles/10924-the-quietus-albums-of-the-year-2012
01. Swans - The Seer02. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch03. Carter Tutti Void – Transverse04. XTG - Desertshore/The Final Report05. VCMG – SSSS06. Vatican Shadow - Ghosts Of Chechynya07. Dragged Into Sunlight – Widowmaker08. Laurel Halo – Quarantine09. Anaal Nathrakh – Vanitas10. KTL - V11. Kassem Mosse & Mix Mup - MM/KM12. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black Is Beautiful13. Land Observations - Roman Roads14. Jam City - Classical Curves15. Liars – WIXIW16. Neneh Cherry & The Thing – Cherry Thing17. Lee Gamble - Dutch Tvashar Plumes18. Sun Araw & The Congos - Icon Give Thank19. Actress – RIP20. Darren Hayman & The Long Parliament - The Violence21. White Hills – Frying On This Rock22. Silent Servant - Negative Fascination23. Gravenhurst – The Ghost In Daylight24. Eccentronic Research Council ft Maxine Peake – 1612 Underture25. Necessary – Galgeberg/Gimle26. Emptyset – Medium27. High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis28. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems29. Alex Tucker – Third Mouth30. Fairhorns - Doki Doki Run31. Thomas Koner - Novaya Zemlya32. Raime - Quarter Turns Over A Living Line33. Holly Herndon – Movement34. Shackleton - Music For The Quiet Hour/Drawbar Organ EPs35. Killer Mike – RAP Music36. JK Flesh – Post Human37. Richard Skelton - Verse Of Birds38. Daphni – Jiaolong39. Dope Body – Natural History40. Oren Ambarchi - Sagittarian Domain41. Chromatics - Kill For Love42. Hexvessel - No Holier Vessel43. Toy – Toy44. Traxman – Da Mind Of Traxman45. Vindicatrix – Mengamuk46. Kendrick Lamaar – good kid m.A.A.d city47. UFOmammut – ORO Opus Primum/Alter48. John Foxx & The Maths - The Shape Of Things To Come49. Bee Mask - When We Were Eating Unripe Pears50. Robert Hood - Motor City: Nighttime World 351. Melody's Echo Chamber - Melody's Echo Chamber52. Hirsute Pursuit - Tighten That Muscle Ring53. Burial - Kindred54. Black Breath – Sentenced To Life55. The Pre New – Music For People Who Hate Themselves56. Forward Strategy Group - Labour Division57. Beak - >>58. Turbonegro - Sexual Harassment59. Killing Joke – MMXII60. New War - New War61. Angel Haze - Reservation62. Rolo Tomassi – Astraea63. Tim Burgess - Oh No I Love You64. Sir Richard Bishop – Intermezzo65. Bo Ningen – Line The Wall66. John Talabot – fIN67. Mark Lannegan – Blues Funeral68. Devilman - Devilman69. Motorpsycho And Ståle Storløkken – The Death Defying Unicorn70. Goat – World Music71. Guardian Alien - See The World Given To A One Love Entity72. Carlton Melton - Photos Of Photos73. Leonard Cohen – Old Ideas74. Six Organs Of Admittance - Ascent75. Man Forever – Pansophical Cataract
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
That's a pretty interesting list, loads in there I haven't heard of or seen anywhere else.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
okay I really, really liked the VCMG album but top five of 2012 seems silly, like they meant to put Wonky there as a surprise comeback album and then had a massive brain fart
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
i've been picking through this list a bit this morning, the alex tucker record seems kind of cool.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
I want to see a dancehall heavy list (as I lost touch with that genre but remain curious). Maybe I should just go the ilx dancehall thread, or elsewhere.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
That's a lot of damn music I haven't heard, close to 60% of that list. After binging on over 100 albums this past week, including epic length stuff like Wadada Leo Smith's 4 disc set Ten Freedom Summers, my head's gonna explode. Gonna try to pick carefully the ones I really need to hear. Funny how highly rated the Scott Walker and Laurel Halo albums are, as they are undeniably uncomfortable, sometimes excruciating listens. I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling silly subjecting myself to them more than a couple times, to make sure I'm not missing out. There's definitely interesting stuff going on that can be oddly compelling as it is torturous, which is why I still rate 'em. But there's no way albums are topping my list that I would not look forward to listening to again more than once or twice.
Glad to see Ufomammut and Motorpsycho in there!
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not won over by the Scott Walker yet, but maybe I need to listen some more (or maybe not!).
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
Funny how highly rated the Scott Walker and Laurel Halo albums are, as they are undeniably uncomfortable, sometimes excruciating listens.
it's Farrah Abraham i feel sorry for
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
Has anybody put the Fela Kuti re ish on any of these lists?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
maybe I didn't stick with it long enough but I thought Laurel Halo was just boring
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
I did enjoy the Turbonegro comeback with the new singer too. I love the band, but the album didn't rank that high as they've had so many better ones. Still cool to see them mentioned.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
Have tried a few times but couldn't get past about track 3 of the Laurel Halo album. Shame as it has one of my favourite sleeves of 2012.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
you could've skipped forward ya kno
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
xxp:
As someone who's spent 20 years searching for bands with the Cocteau Twins aesthetic, I can pretty safely say there aren't more than a handful that come close, and Beach House is rather far from the mark. As others above mention, Beach House is way closer to the Stevie Nicks/Fleetwood aesthetic.
On the other hand, there's never been a year without a new Slowdive apeing band. Its an easier formula - you don't need a fluidly jazzy vocalist, for one.
― Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0JsPf8xK5k
As someone who's spent 20 years searching for bands with the Cocteau Twins aesthetic, I can pretty safely say there aren't more than a handful that come close
Empress Of isn't identical, but she's in the handful who comes close imo.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
11. Kassem Mosse & Mix Mup - MM/KM
Really wanted to listen to this properly but this is just vinyl only which has all sold out amirite? All the youtubes I've checked have been good though.
45. Vindicatrix – Mengamuk
I couldn't really recommend this to anyone else with an easy conscience, but this is one of my secret faves on the Quietus list. Scott Walker-esque avant-crooning over some shabby old electronic soundscape on Mordant Music's label.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
xp JF:There are others, but Liz Frasier is rather weird as rock vocalists go. Wouldn't be surprised if she was a huge Ella Fitzgerald fan. On the other hand there's a lot of bands that have the instrumental side of CT down and stick some nondescript high-school choral singer on top.
― Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
Nice to see the Quietus repping for Land Observations - Roman Roads IV-XI. It's not amazing and #13 EOY is a bit ridiculous but as pastoral Krautrock revivalism goes it was one of the best this year.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
irl lol at this writeup
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― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Sort of surprisingly dull: http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-music-of-2012,89711/
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
evan r. can't un-dull their music coverage all by himself
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
do any of those records mean anything to any of them? or anyone?
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
kyle ryan i think managed to vote folie a deux into av club's 2009 top 20 and hoo boy those comments were fun
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
x-post --They have Frank Ocean and the Swans and Leonard Cohen just like a bunch of polls, what more do you want said about those efforts?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
well, i was just thinking, that seems like the defect in their list that shows up elsewhere. appreciation without mattering. which is not to say that none of those records matter, or could. but no one seems to have tried showing that they have a stake in any of it.
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
... I have no idea what you mean by that.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, nobody has made any kind of case that the Frank Ocean album means something to them or matters in some larger sense.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Being on a list means the record mattered to a lot of people!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
yes, to the listmakers? or blurb-writers? that's the thing that seems to have gone missing.
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
'but to', i meant to type.
I still don't understand what you are looking for
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think the biggest problem with the EOY list blurbs is a lack of passion (or hyperbole)
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
i mean this morning we were making fun of a list where the blurbs for albums outside the top 40 talked about the record "owning the year" or being "the best record of 2012"
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
Exactly. The often hysterical praise and context-setting in blurbs is what needs oversight.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, if someone is out there writing "this album pulled my back from committing murder/suicide" blurbs about that Chairlift album, there are deeper issues beyond whether the album is any good or not that I'd be loathe to actually engage
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
xpost to some dude - that just means that the writers (or editors) are bad, or they have a distorted sense of how things matter in general versus how they matter to them. but what i'm talking about is not passion or hyperbole. the listmakers themselves are absent from the writing they do about the music that they say matters (or imply matters by putting it on year-end lists). they don't seem to be concerned to make the personal connection. (and by extension, they seem to have trouble finding anything larger than a personal connection to hang the meaningfulness of their chosen records on - for lack of good narratives at the moment, coherence of listening audiences, etc.)
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
But explaining why the album matters IS a personal connection.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
I still have no idea what you are looking for when you use the word "meaningfulness" and I feel like you are simultaneously criticizing these lists for only going for a personal connection and not bothering to make a personal connection.
in summation: what happened, I am confused
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
alfred, i certainly wouldn't want to deny that it could be. but doesn't that depend to some extent on how the explanation is given, and on how it's written?
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
dan, i think that as presented the onion list is a good example of what one sees in many year-end lists. there are very few personal connections actually manifested in the writing accompanying the lists because the writers/editors allow the impersonality of the format to exclude those connections. so the end results come to seem universally samey and vaguely like empty exercises.
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
the year end blurb game is what it is -- those of us who have to write some of them try our best but "sum it up in 50 words or less" is not really conducive to establishing a personal connection
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
sure, and i don't want to fault you for it. i'm just thinking about what makes these lists dissatisfying - what makes people hunt for a sign (weird albums, unpopular choices, inclusions that don't fit into the overall scheme) that a list isn't just pro forma.
― j., Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
Isn't a sharp blurb promotion enough?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
I think "personal connection" is the wrong tack in any event - IMO what is most often missing from poor year end blurbs is a sense of what the writer thinks "the best X thing" actually looks like - the why and how of the music's greatness from their perspective. I think that's still doable in 50 word blurbs, you just can't go into much detail is all.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:17 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is lovely! Thanking u.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
i think what is most often missing from year end blurbs is music reviewed in the style of adorno, or in any case someone from the frankfurt school. why don't critics explain exactly why and how an album is participating in the capitalist hegemony, reinforcing the superstructure, or stymying the dialectical resolution? the best album of the year should either be the one album valiantly (and only temporarily) resisting co-option, or the album most shamelessly implicated in the hierarchy of taste + class.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
you miss k-punk too huh mordy
― Tim F, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
I think that's still doable in 50 word blurbs, you just can't go into much detail is all.
depends on the album really
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
Popdust
100. TWIN SHADOW, “FIVE SECONDS”99. DAVID GUETTA FEAT. SIA, “TITANIUM”98. NELLY FURATDO, “PARKING LOT”97. SOLANGE, “LOSING YOU”96. BAAUER, “HARLEM SHAKE”95. GRIMES, “OBLIVION”94. R. KELLY, “SHARE MY LOVE”93. MIRANDA LAMBERT, “OVER YOU”92. CONOR MAYNARD, “CAN’T SAY NO”91. JASON MRAZ, “I WON’T GIVE UP"90. CHIEF KEEF FEAT. KANYE WEST, PUSHA T, BIG SEAN, JADAKISS, “DON’T LIKE.1″89. LEE HI, “1 2 3 4″88. NAS, “DAUGHTERS”87. OLLY MURS, “HEART SKIPS A BEAT”86. ERIC CHURCH, “SPRINGSTEEN”85. M.I.A., “BAD GIRLS”84. MUMFORD AND SONS, “I WILL WAIT”83. CA$H OUT, “CASHIN’ OUT”82. RIHANNA, “DIAMONDS”81. RITA ORA, “HOW WE DO (PARTY)"80. WOLFGANG GARTNER, “FLEXX”79. THE BAND PERRY, “BETTER DIG TWO”78. CHAIRLIFT, “I BELONG IN YOUR ARMS”77. RICK ROSS FEAT. DRAKE & FRENCH MONTANA, “STAY SCHEMIN”76. HALEY REINHART, “FREE”75. PASSION PIT, “CONSTANT CONVERSATIONS”74. TAYLOR SWIFT FEAT. THE CIVIL WARS, “SAFE AND SOUND”73. CHRISTINA AGUILERA, “RED HOT KINDA LOVE”72. USHER, “DIVE”71. BEST COAST, “DREAMING MY LIFE AWAY"70. NICKI MINAJ, “STUPID HOE”69. PINK, “BLOW ME (ONE LAST KISS)”68. OWL CITY & CARLY RAE JEPSEN, “GOOD TIME”67. SCHOOLBOY Q, “THERE HE GO”66. LEMONADE, “NEPTUNE”65. ADAM LAMBERT, “KICKIN IN”64. HUNTER HAYES, “WANTED”63. RIHANNA FEAT. CHRIS BROWN, “NOBODY’S BUSINESS”62. SLEIGH BELLS, “COMEBACK KID”61. AZEALIA BANKS, “JUMANJI"60. BIG BANG, “BAD BOY”59. JAPANDROIDS, “THE HOUSE THAT HEAVEN BUILT”58. THE WANTED, “I FOUND YOU”57. JUSTIN BIEBER, “THOUGHT OF YOU”56. KANYE WEST FT. BIG SEAN & JAY-Z, “CLIQUE”55. ZEDD FEAT. MATTHEW KOMA, “SPECTRUM”54. ONE DIRECTION, “ONE THING”53. MUSE, “MADNESS”52. JAY-Z FEAT. B.I.C., “GLORY”51. TANLINES, “ALL OF ME”50. TAYLOR SWIFT, “I KNEW YOU WERE TROUBLE”49. CARRIE UNDERWOOD, “BLOWN AWAY”48. RICK ROSS, “HOLD ME BACK”47. THE-DREAM FEAT. PUSHA T, “DOPE BITCH”46. JOEY BADA$$, “WORLD DOMINATION”45. JUSTIN BIEBER FEAT. DRAKE, “RIGHT HERE”44. ELLIE GOULDING, “LIGHTS”43. MIGUEL, “PUSSY IS MINE”42. FLORENCE & THE MACHINE, “SPECTRUM (SAY MY NAME) (CALVIN HARRIS REMIX)”41. G-DRAGON, “CRAYON”40. LOVERANCE FEAT. 50 CENT, T.I. & YOUNG JEEZY, “UP!”39. PINK, “THE TRUTH ABOUT LOVE”38. JAKE OWEN, “ALONE WITH YOU”37. KE$HA, “DIE YOUNG”36. 2 CHAINZ FEAT. DRAKE, “NO LIE”35. ONE DIRECTION, “I WOULD”34. ALEX CLARE, “TOO CLOSE”33. THE WANTED, “GLAD YOU CAME”32. DEMI LOVATO, “GIVE YOUR HEART A BREAK”31. CHARLI XCX, “YOU’RE THE ONE”30. BRUNO MARS, “LOCKED OUT OF HEAVEN”29. NICKI MINAJ, “BEEZ IN THE TRAP”28. FIONA APPLE, “EVERY SINGLE NIGHT”27. TYGA, “RACK CITY”26. FUN., “SOME NIGHTS”25. CHER LLOYD, “WANT U BACK”24. SKY FERREIRA, “EVERYTHING IS EMBARRASSING”23. FRANK OCEAN, “PYRAMIDS”22. ICONA POP, “I LOVE IT”21. KENDRICK LAMAR, “THE RECIPE”20. FRENCH MONTANA FEAT. DRAKE, RICK ROSS & LIL WAYNE, “POP THAT”19. LITTLE BIG TOWN, “PONTOON”18. TAYLOR SWIFT, “WE ARE NEVER EVER GETTING BACK TOGETHER”17. THE LUMINEERS, “HO HEY”16. CARLY RAE JEPSEN, “THIS KISS”15. MEEK MILL FEAT. DRAKE, “AMEN”14. MIGUEL, “ADORN”13. RIHANNA, “WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN”12. NICKI MINAJ, “STARSHIPS”11. PSY, “GANGNAM STYLE”10. CALVIN HARRIS, "FEELS SO CLOSE"9. BRIDGIT MENDLER, “READY OR NOT”8. FRANK OCEAN, “THINKING ‘BOUT YOU”7. TAYLOR SWIFT, “STATE OF GRACE”6. JUSTIN BIEBER, “BOYFRIEND”5. FUN. FEAT JANELLE MONAE, “WE ARE YOUNG”4. KANYE WEST FT. BIG SEAN, PUSHA T & 2 CHAINZ, “MERCY”3. ONE DIRECTION, “WHAT MAKES YOU BEAUTIFUL”2. USHER, “CLIMAX”1. CARLY RAE JEPSEN, “CALL ME MAYBE”
― danzig, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
some pretty hilarious picks in there but it's still nice to see a fairly considered list of chart singles
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
that list is basically x_x -> -_- -> ^_^ in an unending loop
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
and that's just the One Direction songs on the list
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
man I hate the Lumineers
― she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
my paper, the Baltimore City Paper, did our best-ofs this week
top ten albums: http://citypaper.com/news/2012-top-ten-albums-1.1414966
top ten local albums: http://citypaper.com/news/2012-top-ten-local-albums-1.1414968
a bunch of top ten lists by genre, a few of which i did: http://citypaper.com/news/2012-top-ten-releases-by-genre-1.1414970
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
man that Dead Sara record is impressive
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
yeah!! i was pretty thrilled that i got it into their top 10
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
a very late discovery (i.e. last week) but that's what December's for.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
well then, this is new to me.
"weatherman" would have been one hell of a radio hit in 1996. you guys are telling me there's an entire good album of this?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah! really like that record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
the whole album is not as heavy as that song but all as good
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
my goodness this lady can sing
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah they were on some talk show earlier this year, i think Kimmel, and i was O_O at how she could pull off the vox live
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah this is weird, i've been out of the mainstream rock game for well over 10 years but i'm 4 songs in and loving this.
end of year is so fun on ilm, i learn about tons of stuff.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:29 (eleven years ago) link
they're in a kind of awkward no man's land, not on a major label but don't scan as 'indie,' have had some radio airplay but not enough to be a big deal, etc.
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
I remember giving that Dead Sara record a go in the summer, but I'm not nostalgic for that sound so I never revisited. She has a good voice but overall it made me want to listen to the Nymphs. Now that's a band I have some fond memories of.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
I knew the local list would be repping that Rye Rye album, such a good time
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
Lol @ Insane Clown Posse making Spin's best hip-hop list. What's next, the Creed critical rehab?
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:08 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I haven't heard it so maybe it isn't absolutely terrible, but the trajectory of the internet/critical fascination with ICP over the past five years is pretty lol-worthy to me.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:12 (eleven years ago) link
omg what a bunch of idiots
― 2am chopped top (brimstead), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link
2012 has been a great year for ambient music. Less melodramatic major chords, more lite relaxed sounds.
― 2am chopped top (brimstead), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:23 (eleven years ago) link
But seriously, don't fuck with juggalos
spin rap list is great, cool to see a bunch of albums i've never heard of
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
Yah I enjoyed it as well.
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
Spin's top tracks:
40 KATY B, FEAT. JESSIE WARE - "AALIYAH" 39 SAVAGES - "HUSBANDS" 38 HOLOGRAMS - "CHASING MY MIND" 37 MYSTIKAL - "HIT ME" 36 FATHER JOHN MISTY - "HOLLYWOOD FOREVER CEMETERY SINGS" 35 FRANKIE ROSE - "INTERSTELLAR" 34 TAYLOR SWIFT - "I KNEW YOU WERE TROUBLE" 33 SANTIGOLD - "DISPARATE YOUTH" 32 R. KELLY - "WHEN A MAN LIES" 31 SKY FERREIRA - "EVERYTHING IS EMBARRASSING" 30 JUICY J - "BANDZ A MAKE HER DANCE" 29 NICKI MINAJ - "BEEZ IN THE TRAP" 28 CHAIRLIFT - "I BELONG IN YOUR ARMS" 27 FUTURE - "SAME DAMN TIME" 26 KATY PERRY - "WIDE AWAKE" 25 A$AP ROCKY, FEAT. 2 CHAINZ, DRAKE, AND KENDRICK LAMAR - "FUCKIN' PROBLEM" 24 CAT POWER - "CHEROKEE (NICOLAS JAAR REMIX)" 23 SWANS - "THE SEER22 METRIC - "BREATHING UNDERWATER" 21 JACK WHITE - "SIXTEEN SALTINES" 20 KATHLEEN EDWARDS - "CHANGE THE SHEETS" 19 FIONA APPLE - "EVERY SINGLE NIGHT" 18 Y.N.RICHKIDS - "HOT CHEETOS & TAKIS" 17 ANGEL HAZE - "CLEANING OUT MY CLOSET" 16 PLAN B - "ILL MANORS" 15 GRIMES - "OBLIVION" 14 JESSIE WARE - "RUNNING (DISCLOSURE REMIX)" 13 TORCHE - "KISS ME DUDELY" 12 AZEALIA BANKS - "JUMANJI" 11 USHER - "CLIMAX" 10 SOLANGE - "LOSING YOU" 9 SLEIGH BELLS - COMEBACK KID" 8 PSY - "GANGNAM STYLE" 7 CARLY RAE JEPSEN - "CALL ME MAYBE (SEKUOIA LOL MIX)" 6 MIGUEL - "ADORN" 5 BAT FOR LASHES - "LAURA" 4 KENDRICK LAMAR - "SWIMMING POOLS (DRANK)" 3 FRANK OCEAN - "BAD RELIGION" 2 JAPANDROIDS - "THE HOUSE THAT HEAVEN BUILT" 1 G.O.O.D. MUSIC, FEAT. KANYE WEST, BIG SEAN, PUSHA T, AND 2 CHAINZ - "MERCY"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
7 CARLY RAE JEPSEN - "CALL ME MAYBE (SEKUOIA LOL MIX)"
good crit-trolling
― she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 05:50 (eleven years ago) link
mercy is so boring
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
Wide Awake?! WIDE AWAKE?!?
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:09 (eleven years ago) link
I only have a cursory knowledge of Torche, but I applaud them for recording a song named "Kiss Me Dudely" that is notable enough to make a list in a major publication.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:12 (eleven years ago) link
torche is 1/3rd of the Triple C's
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:16 (eleven years ago) link
40 KATY B, FEAT. JESSIE WARE - "AALIYAH" 37 MYSTIKAL - "HIT ME"
Was this list finalised five minutes ago or...?
14 JESSIE WARE - "RUNNING (DISCLOSURE REMIX)"
Nice work!
― Tim F, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:20 (eleven years ago) link
xpost what are the Triple C's?
― alpine static, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
Triple C's, also known as Carol City Cartel, is a Southern hip hop group founded by Rick Ross. It includes members Gunplay from Miami, Torch (born Kevin Belnavis) from the Bronx, New York, and Young Breed.
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:24 (eleven years ago) link
you didn't ask for mine, but it's here, with lots of downloads, if you're curious:http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2012.php
01 - Carly Rae Jepsen - "Call Me Maybe"02 - Miguel - "Gravity"03 - The Mouthbreathers - "Birthdays"04 - Usher - "Climax"05 - Brianna Perry - "Marilyn Monroe"06 - Avec pas d'casque - "Intuition #1"07 - Taylor Swift - "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"08 - Jessie Ware - "110%"09 - Plan B - "ill Manors"10 - Eternal Summers - "Millions"11 - Andy Stott - "Numb"12 - MIA - "Bad Girls"13 - BJ the Chicago Kid ft Kendrick Lamar - "His Pain"14 - Solange - "Losing You"15 - Damien Jurado - "Museum of Flight"16 - Frank Ocean - "Thinkin Bout You (Ryan Hemsworth Bootleg)"17 - Plants and Animals - "The End of That"18 - Neal Morgan - "Fathers Day"19 - Big Sean ft Jay-Z and Kanye West - "Clique"20 - Chromatics - "Lady"21 - James Irwin - "Needleye"22 - Neneh Cherry and the Thing - "Dream Baby Dream"23 - Micachu and the Shapes - "Nothing"24 - Kendrick Lamar - "The Recipe (feat. Dr. Dre)"25 - How To Dress Well - "It Was U"26 - Joey Bada$$ - "World Domination"27 - Dirty Projectors - "Impregnable Question"28 - Purity Ring - "Obedear"29 - PSY - "Gangnam Style"30 - Sonny and the Sunsets - "Pretend You Love Me"31 - Nap Eyes - "White Disciple"32 - Flying Lotus ft Captain Murphy and Earl Sweatshirt - "Between Friends"33 - Bonnie Prince Billy - "I See A Darkness34 - Milk Teddy - "Come Around"35 - Peter Peter - "Une version améliorée de la tristesse"36 - Japandroids - "The House that Heaven Built"37 - Darq E Freaker ft Danny Brown - "Blueberry"38 - Tune-yards + Angelique Kidjo + Ahmir '?uestlove' Thompson + Akua Naru - "Lady"39 - JLS - "Hottest Girl in the World"40 - Zigi ft Sonniballi - "Amanda"41 - Chris Malinchak - "So Good To Me"42 - Zebra Katz ft Njena Reddd Foxxx - "Ima Read"43 - Chris Cohen - "Heart Beat"44 - White+ - "Red+"45 - Fiona Apple - "Hot Knife"46 - PS I Love You - "Princess Towers"47 - Major Lazer ft Amber Coffman - "Get Free"48 - Karneef - "We Found Money"49 - The-Dream ft Pusha T - "Dope Chick"50 - Macklemore & Ryan Lewis ft Mary Lambert - "Same Love"51 - Nicki Minaj ft 2 Chainz - "Beez in the Trap"52 - Freelove Fenner - "Mint"53 - Schoolboy Q - "There He Go"54 - The Hood Internet x Ma$e x Diddy x Notorious BIG x Penguin Prison - "Fuck With Mo' Money"55 - Eric Chenaux - "Dull Lights"56 - Azealia Banks - "Fuck Up The Fun"57 - Pat Jordache - "Steps (Damaged Goods)"58 - Adam and the Amethysts - "Drinking in LA"59 - The Doozies - "Independence Day"60 - Thee Oh Sees - "So Nice"61 - Bernice - "Reve General"62 - Here We Go Magic - "How Do I Know"63 - Arlt - "Tu m'as encore crevé un cheval"64 - The Luyas - "Fifty Fifty"65 - Jai Paul - "Jasmine"66 - Way Yes - "Important67 - Tomas Barfod ft Nina Kinert - "November Skies"68 - Killer Mike - "RAP Music"69 - Rose Cousins - "For The Best"70 - Alt-J - "Tessellate"71 - Olu Maintain - "NAWTi"72 - Justin Bieber - "Die In Your Arms"73 - Willis Earl Beal - "Evening's Kiss"74 - Amanda Palmer - "Melody Dean"75 - Young Galaxy - "Youth Is Wasted On The Young"76 - Katy B ft Jessie Ware - "Aaliyah"77 - Adam Torres - "Mountain River"78 - Kitty Pryde - "okay cupid"79 - Grizzly Bear - "Yet Again"80 - Rufus Wainwright - "Sometimes You Need"81 - Guru - "Lapaz Toyota"82 - Django Django - "Life's a Beach"83 - Parlovr - "You Only Want It 'Cause You're Lonely"84 - Father John Misty - "Hollywood Forever Cemetery Sings"85 - Heartless Bastards - "Marathon"86 - Gros Mené - "Vénus"87 - Icona Pop - "I Love It"88 - White Label - "Roberta"89 - Tallest Man in the World - "To Just Grow Away"90 - Death Grips - "I've Seen Footage"91 - Isaac Delusion - "Early Morning"92 - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros - "That's What's Up"93 - Bankrobber - "Soon"94 - Cat Power - "Manhattan"95 - Sean Price - "Bar-Barian"96 - CHVRCHES - "The Mother We Share"97 - Mirel Wagner - "No Death"98 - Oregon Bike Trails - "A Summer Thing"99 - Blue Meanies - "Opossom"100 - Fresh and Onlys - "Long Slow Dance
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:26 (eleven years ago) link
what a horribly formed "joke"
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:27 (eleven years ago) link
that was directed at d-40 btw
2012 was a good year for pop and ilm-ey stuff
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:31 (eleven years ago) link
Sean's is the only other list I exect to see "Die in Your Arms" on aside from mine.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:33 (eleven years ago) link
for all the talk of hipsters loving chief keef the only lists he's made were the Wire & kanye's horrible 'i dont like remix' making it to popdust
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 06:33 (eleven years ago) link
gramaphone list definitely on point
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:00 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:33 AM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark
and your magazine
that's that crit i don't like
― she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:04 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:00 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ahh yes, no one posted that itt tho
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:07 (eleven years ago) link
― she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:04 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nice, you should definitely write an article about keef so you can work that in to the kicker
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link
24 CAT POWER - "CHEROKEE (NICOLAS JAAR REMIX)"
nice to see this get recognised!
the original of "running" > the disclosure remix
the only ware remix i prefer to the original is joe goddard's astonishing version of "night light"
solange is generally so terrible these days
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:25 (eleven years ago) link
not that i think this will change your mind BUT the jimmy fallon performance of "losing you" was absolutely incredible i thought, you should look it up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:26 (eleven years ago) link
i watched ciara's fallon performance of "got that good" instead and was happy with my choice, as that's the way superior song
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:29 (eleven years ago) link
hmm i have no idea what that is
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:30 (eleven years ago) link
kimmel, not fallon. i don't know the difference between your tv people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsnxqNfR24Y
<3
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
s0 much better than solange doing a manic pixie dream girl dance or whatever she did
i...... don't think that's a thing, but okay
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:39 (eleven years ago) link
all indie girls dance like ciara now anyway
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 07:41 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing i've heard this year that reminded me of Cocteaus = around half of the Sleigh Bells LP
I remember thinking of the Cocteaus -- or specifically, Liz's singing -- when I listened to the Poliça album. Not that the voice really sounded alike, but there was something similar in its use and treatment -- the multitracks with small variations / delayed entries / deviations, tiny flourishes at various points, etc.
I've only heard the album once, though, so pinch, salt etc.
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
NYT critics lists out
Jon Caramanica: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-caramanicas-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?smid=tw-nytimesmusic&seid=auto
Ben Ratliff: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/ben-ratliffs-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?smid=tw-nytimesmusic&seid=auto
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I'm a big fan of the Beach House album, and while Cocteau Twins are definitely an influence on it, I hardly think BH is ripping them off, especially not with the vocals.
If Beach House sounds like anything really specific, it's probably The Motels "Suddenly Last Summer".
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
oh also Jon Pareles: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-pareless-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?_r=0
Nate Chinen: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/nate-chinens-top-10-albums-of-2012.html
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Times lists:
Caramanica: haven't heard any; would give Lee Brice a listen.Ratliff: have heard half (1,2,3,6,7,9); loved the Jeremy Pelt album, liked Nazoranai, was disappointed by the others (I saw Ravi Coltrane live this year and he was excellent - different band than either of the ones heard on the album, though).Pareles: have heard 3 (2,3,6); liked the Alabama Shakes record a lot, though at least one or two of the songs could really have used a horn section; thought the Dylan album was much weaker than the one before it, and can't even remember what the Fiona Apple album sounded like.Chinen: have heard 6 (1,2,3,6,8,9); lots of overlap with Ratliff's list and the ones that are unique to him, I didn't really like; I've heard much better Tim Berne albums than this year's. Gonna check out the Yosvany Terry album, though - I've heard three really good 2012 Criss Cross releases this month. They're a label that really needs a US publicist.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
emeli sandé is a curveball for anyone to put at number ONE
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Caramanica: haven't heard any; would give Lee Brice a listen.
thanks for the update, breh, we were on the edges of our seats
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Lee Brice's "Woman Like You" is one of my fav country singles of the year but it is howlingly cheesy, ilx would be repulsed by it
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
there really are some consensus rap records this year huh
― D-40, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
the beauty of tokenism is that once there's one anointed masterpiece you don't even have to bother listening to any other icky rap albums
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
given that at least one publication ranks an ICP album as one of the 40 best hip-hop albums released this year, there may not be as many non-icky rap albums out there as your sarcasm implies
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
:)
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing i've heard this year that reminded me of Cocteaus = around half of the Sleigh Bells LPI remember thinking of the Cocteaus -- or specifically, Liz's singing -- when I listened to the Poliça album. Not that the voice really sounded alike, but there was something similar in its use and treatment -- the multitracks with small variations / delayed entries / deviations, tiny flourishes at various points, etc.I've only heard the album once, though, so pinch, salt etc.― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 14:41 (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess I'm just getting ever so ever so tired of this singular aesthetic involving indistinct shoegazey/chillwavey sounds + dreamy detached female vocals that land somewhere on a grid between The Knife, Dirty Projectors, the XX, with an optional r'n'b "influence" thrown in for "variety". Obviously I do like a lot of these acts to differing extents, but there's such a glut of these that they all turn into one big Melody's Twinbeach Chairgang Polica Houselift, and I'm starting to feel significantly averse to stuff that sounds like this.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
melody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
btw Whiney, I'm listening to The Mighty Death Pop thanks to that list and this is the first album they've put out in years that I've found even halfway reminiscent of The Ringmaster/Riddle Box, so lol/hat tip
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
thx man.
Everyone on ILX should listen to and love the song where they imagine going to the Gammies and killing Chris Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-_OFVFCjg
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Grammys
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
it would be totally in character for ICP to do a song about ambushing someone at their grandma's house so now I'm just thinking of missed opportunities
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
i can't be mad at that track ^^^^
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
Doglatin it's New Year soon, you'd probably free up several weeks worth of productive time if you resolved to stop handwringing about spurious unifying musical trends that only exist in your imagination.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
lolwut sande #1
probably even more dimwitted than putting lauren halo there
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkmelody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm only saying this triumvirate pretty much begat this now prevalent sound. No, MEC doesn't (literally!) sound exactly like any one particular of these earlier bands, but this kind of sound (washy guitars, reverby synths, glassy-eyed vocal delivery) has become pretty much its own genre at this point (post-chillwave if we have to call it anything I guess), it's just stopped being interesting to me.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ayYLdNSTzp8/UHT75TFVofI/AAAAAAAAAqc/Q5SSxhnM23E/s1600/homeland-carrie-marine-one.jpeg
― Tim F, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone have a gif of Simon Reynolds in a Fisher Price car with the wheels coming off?
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
surely a music writer whose top 2 were the actual best selling LPs of the year in UK and US respectively should just quit because their work is done.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
NYT lists are good for reminding me I want to get the Vijay Iyer and Ravi Coltrane albums, and that David Virelles one sounds promising too. (which is to say, useful for would-be jazzbos who don't pay much attention to jazz)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty Much Amazing's Best Songs of 2012http://prettymuchamazing.com/feature/best-songs-2012
25. DIIV “Doused”24. Santigold “Disparate Youth”23. Chairlift “I Belong In Your Arms”22. Jessie Ware – “Wildest Moments”21. Alabama Shakes “Hold On”20. Rhye “The Fall”19. Nicolas Jaar “And I Say/With Just One Glance”18. Jai Paul “Jasmine (Demo)”17. Icona Pop “I Love It”16. Chromatics “Back From The Grave”15. Bat For Lashes “Laura”14. A$AP Rocky “Goldie”13. Charli XCX “You’re The One”12. Japandroids “The House That Heaven Built”11. Purity Ring “Obedear”10. Spiritualized “Hey Jane”09. Grimes “Oblivion”08. Miguel “Adorn”07. El-P “$4Vic / FTL (Me and You)”06. Tame Imapala “Feels Like We Only Go Backwards”05. Kendrick Lamar “Sing About Me / I’m Dying of Thirst”04. Frank Ocean “Bad Religion”03. Beach House “Myth”02. Usher “Climax”01. Fiona Apple “Every Single Night”
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
the rest of the list:
AB-SOUL – Terrorist Threats (f. Danny Brown & Jhene Aiko)AIR – Sonic ArmadaALT-J – BreezeblocksALUNAGEORGE – Watching Over YouANDREW BIRD – EyeoneyeANIMAL COLLECTIVE – Rosie OhANIMAL COLLECTIVE – Wide EyedARIEL PINK’S HAUNTED GRAFFITI – Only In My DreamsAVA LUNA – Wrenning DayAZEALIA BANKS – LiquoriceBEAR IN HEAVEN – Sinful NatureBLOOD DIAMONDS – Phone Sex (f. Grimes)BURIAL – Ashtray WaspCARLY RAE JEPSEN – Call Me MaybeCHROMATICS – LadyCLOUD NOTHINGS – Stay UselessDAN DEACON – True ThrushDANIEL ROSSEN – Golden MileDANNY BROWN – Grown UpDEATH GRIPS – HackerDIRTY PROJECTORS – Gun Has No TriggerDR. DOG – LonesomeDUM DUM GIRLS – Lord KnowsEL-P – The Full RetardEVY JANE – SaysoFIONA APPLE – WerewolfFIONA APPLE – Anything We WantFIRST AID KIT – EmmylouFRANK OCEAN – PyramidsFRANKIE ROSE – InterstellarGOTYE – Somebody That I Used To KnowGRIMES – Nightmusic (f. Majical Clouds)GRIZZLY BEAR – Sleeping UteHAIM – Better OffHOT CHIP – FlutesHOW TO DRESS WELL – & It Was UJACK WHITE – Hypocritical KissJESSIE WARE – 110%JESSIE WARE – RunningJOHN TALABOT – Destiny feat. PionalGOOD MUSIC – MercyKENDRICK LAMAR – Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe (f. Lady Gaga)KENDRICK LAMAR – Swimming Pools (Drank)KILLER MIKE – ReaganKING KRULE – Rock BottomLAMBCHOP – Gone TomorrowLANA DEL REY – RideLIARS – No.1 Against the RushLOTUS PLAZA – StrangersM.I.A. – Bad GirlsTHE MAGNETIC FIELDS – Andrew in DragMAJOR LAZER – Get Free (f. Amber Coffman)THE MEN – CandyMS MR – HurricaneNICKI MINAJ – Beez In The Trap (f. 2 Chainz)NICOLAS JAAR – Don’t Break My LoveNIKI & THE DOVE – TomorrowPERFUME GENIUS – HoodPOLIÇA – Wandering StarPORCELAIN RAFT – Unless You Speak From Your HeartSCHOOL OF SEVEN BELLS – The NightSCHOOLBOY Q – Hands On The Wheel (f. A$AP Rocky)SCREAMING FEMALES – ExpireSHARON VAN ETTEN – SerpentsTHE SHINS – Simple SongSKY FERREIRA – Everything Is EmbarrassingSLEIGH BELLS – DemonsSOLANGE – Losing YouTAKEN BY TREES – DreamsTHE TALLEST MAN ON EARTH – 1904TAME IMPALA – Apocalypse DreamsTAME IMPALA – Mind MischiefTHEESATISFACTION – QueenSTNGHT – Higher GroundTWIGS – AcheTHE WALKMEN – We Can’t Be BeatTHE WEEKND – ValerieWILLIS EARL BEAL – Evening’s KissTHE XX – ChainedYEASAYER – HenriettaZOLA JESUS – In Your Nature (David Lynch Remix)
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
SLEIGH BELLS – Demons
this song is so fucking badass but the real gem on that album is "Never Say Die"
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
who?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
TAME IMAPALA haha
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp This non-jazzbo wholeheartedly endorses the Vijay Iyer album.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
SCHOOLBOY Q – Hands On The Wheel (f. A$AP Rocky)
love this
still can't work out why all the ilx goons hate it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
because you love it, mostly
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
that sample is unbearable & both those two guys are nothing rappers
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
for once in my life it's EOY lists validating me rather than ILX so i'm just gonna enjoy this novelty
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
i'm listening to "demons" now. it sounds like marnie stern with a corny NWOBHM riff on top of it, i don't know.
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
that's what Sleigh Bells sound like.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if you can't get down with the baseline conceit, it's kind of a lost cause
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
i actually like "hands on the wheel" too, sometimes nothing rappers are effective, and i think this is one example
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
i want to send you to rap boot camp
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
i run rap boot camp
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
we need to renovate rennavate
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
this is really the year of the black and white cover.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i've been ranting for a couple years now that in indie/hip/'acclaimed' circles half of all album covers are b&w. pulling up PF's recent best new music picks is grayscale city.
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
smog smog smog clouds on your city bitch
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
there are many adjectives that come to mind when I think of the female vocals in The Knife and Dirty Projectors; "detached" and "dreamy" are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down at the bottom of that list if they are there at all, somewhere behind "jazzy" and "gospel-like"― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:49 (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkmelody's echo chamber sounds literally nothing like the knife in any sense. or the xx for that matter. the knife and the xx sound nothing like each other!― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:52 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkI'm only saying this triumvirate pretty much begat this now prevalent sound. No, MEC doesn't (literally!) sound exactly like any one particular of these earlier bands, but this kind of sound (washy guitars, reverby synths, glassy-eyed vocal delivery) has become pretty much its own genre at this point (post-chillwave if we have to call it anything I guess), it's just stopped being interesting to me.― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:04 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not to belabor this point, but I really don't see where Dirty Projectors figure into this conversation. Yes, there are lots of bands doing washy guitars, reverby synths, and glassy-eyed vocal delivery right now, but they are surely not one of them.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
What does 'glassy-eyed vocal' mean?
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://cowsarejustfood.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/the-residents.jpg
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I take it to mean singing in a a detatched manner without a lot of emotion.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha caramanica put kendrick below ke$ha
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
ha npr put kendrick below macklemore
http://www.npr.org/blogs/bestmusic2012/2012/12/12/166972039/listener-picks-your-favorite-albums-of-2012?sc=tw&cc=twmp
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
@soundofthecityATTN: Critics. We're looking to get Pazz and Jop ballots out to everyone tomorrow. Keep your eyes on your inbox and please RT. Thanks!!
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
npr listeners!
― flopson, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
the NPR demographic likes to wave little tantalizing lures to me, making me think I belong there, and then things like the listeners liking Macklemore happen and I realize I am right to stay away
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
ha i meant to say npr listeners, obv already posted the editorial list upthread
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
is there gonna be a goon poll? ive barely listened to any rap this year and would like to know what i missed besides the 3 records that the rock/pop mags are rating
― ciderpress, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
whiney said he's running one
― some dude, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
tell whiney to send me a ballot this year
― f (Lamp), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
Can someone post The Wire's Comps and Reissues lists, please. Thanks very much!
― stevied, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
for whatever it's worth, I liked the Art Dealer Chic EPs and I really liked Kaleidoscope Dream when it came out but here we are in mid-December and many listens later damn if that thing isn't going to end up in my top 5. it just keeps rising. what a record.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
I keep seeing lists with Schoolboy Q songs other than "Druggys With Hoes Again" on them and it doesn't make sense to me.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
Was that 2011?
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 13 December 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
apparently it was leaked last year (which I didn't even realize til now tbh) but it was on his album that came out this year and is at least 45 times better than fucking "Hands on the Wheel"
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
was that sky ferreira answering phones!?
― alpine static, Thursday, 13 December 2012 05:30 (eleven years ago) link
oops wrong thread, sorry
― alpine static, Thursday, 13 December 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
I'm with Lex on Hands on the Wheel
― send Lawyers (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 13 December 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
Slant Magazine top singleshttp://www.slantmagazine.com/music/feature/the-25-best-singles-of-2012/340
1. Drake featuring Rihanna - Take Care2. Jessie Ware - Running3. Frank Ocean - Pyramids4. Dirty Projectors - Gun Has No Trigger5. Santigold - Disparate Youth6. Jack White - I'm Shakin'7. Twin Shadow - Five Seconds8. Alabama Shakes - Hold On9. Azealia Banks - 199110. Lana Del Rey - National Anthem11. The Very Best featuring Seye - Kondaine12. WZRD - Teleport 2 Me, Jamie13. Cheyenne Marie Mize - Wishing Well14. Jay-Z and Kanye West - No Church in the Wild15. Rihanna - Where Have You Been16. Alicia Keys featuring Nicki Minaj - Girl on Fire17. Jessie Ware - 110%18. Kelly Hogan - Plant White Roses19. Bat for Lashes - Laura20. Usher - Climax21. No Doubt - Push and Shove22. Meek Mill featuring Drake - Amen23. Santigold - Big Mouth24. The Magnetic Fields - Andrew in Drag25. Liars - No. 1 Against the Rush
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link
16. Alicia Keys featuring Nicki Minaj - Girl on Fire
http://gifsoup.com/view6/3420038/hard-o.gif
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
The Guardianhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/music/series/best-albums-of-2012
1. tba2. Grimes - Visions3. Jessie Ware - Devotion4. Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan5. Kendrick Lamar – Good Kid, MAAD City6. Tame Impala - Lonerism7. alt-J - An Awesome Wave8. The xx - Coexist9. Hot Chip In Our Heads10. Bobby Womack – The Bravest Man in the Universe11. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream12. Django Django - Django Django13. Chromatics - Kill For Love14. Grizzly Bear - Shields15. Cooly G - Playin' Me16. Taylor Swift - Red17. Lana del Rey - Born To Die18. Saint Etienne - Words And Music By Saint Etienne19. Flying Lotus - Until The Quiet Comes20. Plan B - Ill Manors21. Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man22. The Cribs - In The Belly Of The Brazen Bull23. Jam City - Classical Curves24. Dawn Richard - Armor On25. Actress - R.I.P.26. Bright Light Bright Light - Make Me Believe In Hope27. Poliça - Give You The Ghost28. Tribes - Baby29. Jack White - Blunderbuss30. Angel Haze - Reservation31. Marina And The Diamonds - Electra Heart32. Farrah Abraham - My Teenage Dream Ended33. Mala - Mala in Cuba34. Dexys - One Day I'm Going To Soar35. Nite Jewel - One Second Of Love36. Beach House - Bloom37. Orbital - Wonky38. Fiona Apple -The Idler Wheel39. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music40. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
Wanna bet what's number 1? I'm guessing Bish.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
go on, have another guess
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
Grimes at number 2 though? I went for a run and listened to it yesterday (also saw her at Primavera) and it was okay but just seemed so.. nothingy; like something that might have been interesting circa 2006 but no more.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
Oh God, it's going to be F**** O****, right
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
Juno Best Of 2012: Top 20 albumshttp://www.junodownload.com/plus/2012/12/06/best-of-2012-top-20-albums/
1. Bass Clef – Reeling Skullways (Punch Drunk)2. JuJu & Jordash – Techno Primitivism (Dekmantel)3. Vessel – Order Of Noise (Tri Angle)4. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland – Black Is Beautiful (Hyperdub)5. Jam City – Classical Curves (Night Slugs)6. Austin Cesear – Cruise Forever (Public Information)7. NHK Koyxen – Dance Classics Vol 2 (PAN)8. Silent Servant – Negative Fascination (Hospital)9. Lee Gamble – Diversions 1994-1996 & Dutch Tvashar Plumes (PAN)10. Madteo – Noi No (Sahko)11. Actress – R.I.P (Honest Jons)12. D’Marc Cantu – A New World (MOS)13. I:Cube – M Megamix (Versatile)14. Bee Mask – When We Were Eating Unripe Pears (Spectrum Spools)15. Raime - Quarter Turns Over A Living Line (Blackest Ever Black)16. DJ Nature – Return Of The Savage (Golf Channel)17. Barker & Baumecker – Transsektoral (Ostgut Ton)18. Jahiliyya Fields – Unicursal Hexagram (L.I.E.S.)19. Terrence Dixon – From The Far Future 2 (Tresor)20. Shackleton - Music For The Quiet Hour/The Drawbar Organ (Woe To The Septic Heart!)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
i should check the Bass Clef album; he's got a really interesting attitude to making tunes.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
I have that but it didn't really grab me. It is turning up on a few lists though.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
13. I:Cube – M Megamix (Versatile)
Glad to see this getting props, it's terrific.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
I have that but it didn't really grab me. It is turning up on a few lists though.― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:31 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:31 (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
What isn't always apparent with his stuff is that it's entirely analogue, mixed on cassette 8-track and made with really rudimentary old samplers.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
I think I knew that already, in fact I think my problem was basically down to false expectations - it wasn't quite as scuzzy and horrible as I would have liked. But obviously I need to listen to it again at some point...
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
Matt, what kind of ballpark is that I:Cube in? Probably missing some subtle clues but it's a bit hard to tell from the blurb.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
I don't get the Grimes album at all. Two great singles and a lot of weaker variations on a theme. It's not as if there isn't a lot of arty electro-pop out there and this doesn't feel any weightier or more compelling than the rest. <adopts Guardian commenter's explanation for everything> They probably only chose it to look "cool" and "edgy" and impress middle-class hipsters at Dalston dinner parties.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
Agree apart from the great singles thing. So insubstantial + annoying voice despite being right in my wheelhouse
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
oh no don't you start with "wheelhouse" as well
― r|t|c, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to the Grimes album again yesterday and it's still enjoyable and the melodies are gorgeous but it is kind of samey and there's not much to latch onto. If you think of it as an ambient album it works. Strikes me as one of those albums that loads of people plonk into the lower reaches of their list and ends up really high as a result. But there's not even any sense that it's been one of the defining records of the year or anything like that.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
i remember when Randy Jackson started saying "wheelhouse" on American Idol all the time and people were like whaaaat lol and now everybody says it constantly
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
If you think of it as an ambient album it works.
So true. It was perfect for jogging to, but I remember absolutely none of it. Not a single bit of it stuck out or made an impression on me. Perfect background music for, say, a trendy fashion party, but really this kind of synths'n'sunglasses thing has been done many times over for ten years or so now.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
trendy fashion parties are the worst kind of fashion parties
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Some folks were saying album of the year about Grimes when it came out back in March and I just didn't get it.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link
"in my wheelhouse" has become the phrase du jour
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
I think of wheelhouse as more of a tennis term?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
i'm pretty sure it's originally a baseball term!
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
idk w/e it just makes taste seem like a big rotting wooden wheel... in a house
― r|t|c, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
wheel talk
― nashwan, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF7PMrV_ak4
me irl
― r|t|c, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
Wheelhouse is a boating term that has long been used in baseball.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
She's a wheel...HOUSE
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
Another guessing game for you...
Dummy Magazinehttp://dummymag.com/features/2012/12/03/10-dean-blunt-and-inga-copeland-black-is-beautiful/
1: tbc2: Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE3: Jam City - Classical Curves4: Grimes - Visions5: How To Dress Well - Total Loss6: Laurel Halo - Quarantine7: LV - Sebenza8: Future - Pluto9: Kindness - World, You Need a Change of Mind10: Dean Blunt and Inga Copeland - Black Is Beautiful
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
could it rhyme with volcanic lahar?
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Now that Dummy list really is a godawful top 10.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
good guess, maad kitty xp
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Many people were saying "Grimes 2012" in 2011 fwiw, I bet $100 she'd be playing Radio City and I think I'll be collecting on it. If you're gonna take Visions and stack it up note-for-note against a hundred other albums it's a pretty insubstantial thing but factor in the economy of its production (handmade in Garageband), the ubiquity of her voice (most accurately described by WGW as a cat meowing) and her entire aesthetic you've got a pop star for people who still care about DIY. I mostly think about her in the same zone as a James Ferraro so
impress middle-class hipsters at Dalston dinner parties.
is exactly otm.
― bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
man how bad does that dummy list make future look all of a sudden
― r|t|c, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
― bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:09 PM (4 minutes ago)
Lol.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
Are you going to tell him or am I?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
"kendrick" doesn't really rhyme with "volcanic", surely Rev?
― emil.y, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah i was just thinking "i'm glad rev isn't a rapper"
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
People in Dalston don't eat dinner. They just stare at their plates in stony silence, tutting and sighing at anyone who expresses any sort of enthusiasm for the meal in front of them.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
are the trendy dinner parties in Dalton like the ones on the Upper East Side where people ate sushi and listened to Sade
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
please, no
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
I only been to Dalston once and it was all Grace Jones all night, Grimes could've saved that party
― bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
can't wait to escape from east london's narrow-minded fishbowl atmos and return to the refreshing dublin suburbs for christmas. something so real and honest about people shouting "faggot" out of car windows and groping women in the local pub to the strains of "sweet caroline".
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
globalization at work
― my dinner of butt (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Soundtrack to the last Dalston dinner party I attended = Carly Rae Jepsen and Farrah Abraham albums
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
united by the values we share xpost
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
sometimes you gotta go where everybody knows your name
― my dinner of butt (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
barring that, where they are comfortable shouting epithets at you
― my dinner of butt (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
just as long as you're comfortable, i'm comfortablelet the suburbs of dublin refresh ye
― bosch's bish (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
But there's not even any sense that it's been one of the defining records of the year or anything like that.
Exactly. It's the kind of record you'd be happy to see bobbing around in the Top 30 just below the (much better) Chairlift record, so to see it this high in the NME and Guardian polls seems to suggest a significance that it doesn't possess. And I don't mind rockist BIG STATEMENT significant, just any kind of significant.
BTW I just checked out Laurel Halo - Christ no.
And I now regret making the Dalston dinner party joke.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
Soundtrack to the last Dalston dinner party I attended = Carly Rae Jepsen and Farrah Abraham albums― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:40 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:40 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
You were hosting, right?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
Was it like Rupert Pupkin's basement in King of Comedy with all the celebrity cut-outs?
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
Obviously xp
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
what did you have?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
Saltimbocca alla romana with spanakopita and roasted vegetables, then Langres cheese
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
sounds nice!
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
God all your bullshit about the parties that people listen to X album at has to be the third worst thing about these threads each year, and I think that even when it's not in respect of an album I consider legit awesome.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
do a breakdown of the suburb in which you'd play each of the albums on your own lists at a dinner or gtfo
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
what are the first and second worst things?
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
that's the angriest i've ever seen you, tim. not that i don't agree. xpost
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
I play reggae at dinner parties.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Er Tim, my line was a parody of what boring people in EOY threads say. I hate that line of attack too - Jessie Ware's been battered with the old dinner party/coffee table cliche.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
The dinner party is dead and has been for 40 years.
― how's life, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
No I got that you were making a joke originally, i'm really wrapping in "trendy fashion parties" etc. here as well.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
FTR everything I say is a parody of what boring stupid people say, unless of course you think it's smart and interesting in which case I was being sincere.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Jessie Ware is more of a Stoke Newington dinner party girl although rapidly becoming more Notting Hill.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
Gonna play Grimes the next time I have a dinner party in my wheelhouse
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
My personal hate is "This just sounds like reconstituted <X dance genre> from ten years ago" which has the added benefit of being always wrong.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
even the parody of all of this is fairly gruesome
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
xp Oh cool. Your wrath was so righteous that I thought I'd make sure.
The only time "trendy fashion parties" is acceptable is when the music is explicitly for and about trendy fashion parties, eg early 00s Miss Kittin records.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
Never been to Dalston. Last dinner party was my folks and I put Dave Brubeck on.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
My personal hate is "This just sounds like reconstituted <X dance genre> from ten years ago"
Occasionally correct when being used as a sincere compliment.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
Miss Kittin and Grimes are arguably not polar opposites of each other.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
still fails given this music was popular way beyond that kind of scene.
i mean did actual fashion houses incorporate electrohouse? i'd be doubtful. fashionable clubs maybe.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
My personal hate is "This just sounds like reconstituted <X dance genre> from ten years ago"Occasionally correct when being used as a sincere compliment.― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:09 (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:09 (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hmmm... Funny, because I'm pretty sure each one of the Bobbins massive are guilty of doing this on a fairly regular basis.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
i mean did actual fashion houses incorporate electrohouse? i'd be doubtful. fashionable clubs maybe.― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:10 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:10 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Catwalks, hairdressers, clothes shops, all pretty much featured de rigueuer electrohouse soundtracks 2002-onwards.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
I tried out the genre of "I ~see through~ this naked emperor b/c i am a superior listener so let's pop-psychoanalyse all the people who don't" posturing when it first came out, and I was underwhelmed then, and in 2012 it just seems really tired and old in my opinion... It's all just reconstituted whining from old ILM threads, only fit for solitary parlour games amongst sad rapidly aging young men who don't get invited to dinner parties.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
You left out the word 'aspie' near the end.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Oh shit can I resubmit.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
how many catwalks did you visit? and anyway, don't all these places just play whatever dance music is the sound of the day? at least for the last 20 years or so.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
Let's be real how many hairdressers or clothes shops did dog latin visit
de rigueueuer ziheuerer
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
I worked in an Urban Outfitters for 3 years. Believe me I played anything and everything. Especially as stock sometimes got very low. The soundtrack to Mulholland Drive really doesn't make people buy things.
― emil.y, Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:15 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Thursday, December 13, 2012 6:29 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good rappers use slant rhyme tho. pretend i said "splendid jafar" if that makes you happier.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
I regret subjecting innocent arthouse cinema patrons to my taste between 2000 and 2004. No one liked Amelie more b/c of hearing Trina first.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol, rev.
― emil.y, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Catwalks, hairdressers, clothes shops, all pretty much featured de rigueuer electrohouse soundtracks 2002-onwards.how many catwalks did you visit? and anyway, don't all these places just play whatever dance music is the sound of the day? at least for the last 20 years or so.― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkLet's be real how many hairdressers or clothes shops did dog latin visit― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:17 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Now you guys is proper trolling if you're denying that the fashion world wasn't massively in love with electrohouse (and vice versa) throughout the 2000s. Matt DC STARTED the fricking Haircut House thread for goodness sake and you two follow up on it straight away.
Believe it or not I do buy clothes and get haircuts from time to time. I haven't been to a fashion show, but they do get shown on TV.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
anyway, let's not have this conversation.
I cut my own hair.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
I walk my own catwalk.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
i live in a cave
― my dinner of butt (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
I don't buy my own clothes.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
In Soviet Russia, the architecture dances about you.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
Electrohouse didn't exist in 2002.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
*sigh*
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
we should just start a board called I Love Telling Dog Latin He Is Wrong
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
For shame, the Haircut House featured me (and others admittedly) dropping crazy science knowledge developed during YEARS IN THE FIELD, you cannot compare it to your received lack of wisdom.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
do you really think "i like the way you move" and "haircut house" = "the fashion world"
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
I just read through the entire Haircut House thread again. Good times.
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
what's "I Like The Way You Move" got to do with anything?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
(head in hands)
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
(head in oven)
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
The Guardian - Best tracks of 2012:http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec/13/best-tracks-2012-playlist-spotify
1. Carly Rae Jepsen – Call Me Maybe2. Usher – Climax3. Plan B – Ill Manors4. Jessie Ware – 110%5. Taylor Swift – We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together6. Jai Paul – Jasmine7. Solange – Losing You8. Savages – Husbands9. Zebra Katz – Ima Read10. Blur – Under The Westway11. Major Lazer – Get Free12. AlunaGeorge – Your Drums, Your Love13. Miguel – Adorn14. Grimes – Oblivion15. Haim – Forever16. TNGHT – Higher Ground17. Polica – Lay Your Cards Out18. Dean Blunt – The Narcissist19. Sky Ferreira – Everything Is Embarrassing20. Rihanna – Where Have You Been
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
only one mention for Eric Church "Springsteen" on any track lists so far making me feel pretty sad about the world
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
especially when you see people putting Under The Westway in their top 10 :-(
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
fwiw, there's a website that compiles the number of plays records get at London, Milan, New York and Paris' fashion weeks. The music is usually excellent, on the whole. Zebra Katz was huge on the catwalk, iirc.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
do you really think "i like the way you move" and "haircut house" = "the fashion world"― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:07 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:07 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If I understand you correctly (and really you're not making any sense here at all), you're conflating me saying "electro-based dance music was rather popular in the 2000s with the fashion crowd" with "the only music listened to by anyone who wore clothes in the 2000s was electrohouse".
But why am I even being led into this discussion? It only started cos I off-handedly said Grimes sounded like suitable background music for a fashionable party and now I'm having to defend myself against this (admittedly poor) choice of words for umpteen posts.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
how do you find your way home
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
Under The Westway is so dreadful. If it hadn't have been Olympics-related Damon would have been lynched.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
sorry that was unnecessary, but i just, i can't respond to how far away from what i was saying your interpretation is.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
the only thing more boring to me than electro-based dance music are ilx arguments about electro-based dance music
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
it's not our fault
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.treehugger.com/assets/images/2011/10/electric-home-of-the-future.jpg
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
to expand, was driving around lousiana and mississipi this summer and "Springsteen" seemed to be always on the radio, and i never got sick of it. it's the most legit boys of summer radio anthem for fucking ages, but obviously will be sidelined at end of year due to country-radio origins. yes it's doing nothing new - but it seems to overcome the cliches within each and almost every line and somehow still be pretty much perfect.
to me anyway.
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
9. Zebra Katz – Ima Read
???
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Springsteen" will top my singles ballot. That Eric Church album is the 2011 release I've listened to most this year
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
YASSSS @ Call Me Maybe winning Guardian trax poll, obv no shock but it was by a landslide if I understand correctly
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
Lyrics on "Springsteen" are great, but I kinda hate Church's voice
― suing murdoch for libel (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Hahahaha there are no more stereotypically Guardian-friendly rap picks imaginable than Ill Manors and that Zebra Katz track.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Most of the 6-20 trax are kinda lol (and bad - AlunaGeorge, Haim, Polica, Jai Paul = NO and also so many blogzzz need to be shut down)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
"Ima Read" is one of my favorite tracks this year but I don't really think of it as a rap song
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah ima read is great, def makes my list too
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
The Fives remix of it is awesome too, as is Njena Reddd Foxxx's own Silly Bitch
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
Does it make any sense to say that even though I don't enjoy 'Ima Read' that much myself, I do think it could be one of the best tracks of the year? Probably not, I dunno, but the more I hear it the more I admire how it's put together while still not really 'getting into it'...
― emil.y, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
xp it's kind of endlessly remixable. all the remixes out there definitely play into my enjoyment of the song.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
the mikeq & b. ames remix is my favorite, naturally
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not saying "Under the Westway" is a classic song or anything, but I thought it really nailed a certain vibe that Blur doesn't play around with much anymore. I'm guessing all the haters of that track are the people that really liked the direction Think Tank was taking them.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
― suing murdoch for libel (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, December 13, 2012 5:18 PM
It's good enough for me.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
right on, just personal preference on that one
― suing murdoch for libel (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 13 December 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I'm no critic, but "Springsteen" is my song of the year too.
― Euler, Thursday, 13 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
def in my top 10
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
Rolling Stone Readers' Pollhttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-best-albums-of-2012-20121212/10-no-doubt-push-and-shove-0949348
1. Adam Lambert, 'Trespassing'2. The Killers, 'Battle Born'3. Jack White, 'Blunderbuss'4. Bruce Springsteen, 'Wrecking Ball'5. Van Halen, 'A Different Kind of Truth'6. Bob Dylan, 'Tempest'7. Rush, 'Clockwork Angels'8. Frank Ocean, 'Channel Orange'9. Muse, 'The 2nd Law'10. No Doubt, 'Push and Shove'
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
waht
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
Trespassing indeed
lambert has a rabid internet stanbase
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
Adam Lambert? lol internet street teaming much?
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
1. Adam Lambert, 'Trespassing'Well, he does know a thing or two about popularity contests. By the looks of it, former American Idol winner Adam Lambert organized his fans to stuff the ballot box to make Trespassing the top vote-getter in our Readers' Poll. Upon its release, Rolling Stone gave the album four stars, with Rob Sheffield noting that Lambert sang the mix of "tinsel disco-club sleaze and leather-boy love ballads" like he was "Zeus in a thong." Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.
Well, he does know a thing or two about popularity contests. By the looks of it, former American Idol winner Adam Lambert organized his fans to stuff the ballot box to make Trespassing the top vote-getter in our Readers' Poll. Upon its release, Rolling Stone gave the album four stars, with Rob Sheffield noting that Lambert sang the mix of "tinsel disco-club sleaze and leather-boy love ballads" like he was "Zeus in a thong." Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
Hope yr keeping an eye on that ilx poll Johnny
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
i like how they act like they're going to disclaim responsibility for the outcome and then mention their super-positive review
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
imagine if they could do that to the Pitchfork poll
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
Zeus in a thong = Maggie Smith in Daisy Dukes
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Van Halen and Rush's street teams are none too shabby either.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
what do you call a street team that's been at it for 30 years? wheelchair team?
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Forgot about that Van Halen album already. "Ta-too, ta-too, ta-too!"
― how's life, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
i judge all tracks countdowns by the placements of "losing you" and "everything is embarrassing" with respect to one another
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
also for those bemoaning general lack of "springsteen" (like me), rolling stone put it on their list last year (which made me laugh because i had never heard the song before so i just assumed it was written for the sole purpose of guaranteeing coverage from rolling stone)
― teledyldonix, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
Every tracks countdown that doesn't have "Adorn" at #1 is utterly confusing to me.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
I may violate my no-singles-from-top-ten-albums rule (which I do once a year) for "Adorn."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
They sound like almost exactly the same (good) song to me
― men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
i just bemoan the fact that NO trax list so far has recognised "matte black truck", wtf is wrong with people
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
I try not to overlap albums and singles top 10s too much but usually there's at least 3 or so -- this year only 2 (Miguel and Future)
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred i kinda enforce that rule on myself too but i think theres generally a clear mental line between voting for a song that was your favorite song on a record you liked and a song that was a big single that transcends the record and stands alone
― ciderpress, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
just got my P&J ballot e-mail btw
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
google search results for "matte black truck" + kalenna: approx 54,100
google search results for "losing you" + solange: approx 1,130,000
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
I try not to overlap albums and singles top 10s too much
if it's just a ballot of 10 i try to stick to the no-overlap rule ruthlessly. several contenders this year though - miguel (for "do you...", obv), carly rae (was not expecting the album to be so strong) and weirdly nicki, whose album is in my top 5 but who made SO many singles-i-jammed-as-singles-incessantly in 2012 ("stupid hoe", "pound the alarm", "the boys", "come on a cone", "starships" AND WHAT, and that's not even counting the actual best song on the album "gun shot")
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:43 PM (9 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
;_; ;_; ;_; ;_; ;_;
for reeeaallll this is such an injustice, at least dawn gets SOME props
try hanging out with shitty indie bands kalenna :(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
this is my first year having spotify for this process, looking forward to being able to blast through the tracks nominations without any hassle
― ciderpress, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
just got my ballot too
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:46 (eleven years ago) link
maybe "matte black truck" is cool but i was too freaked out by her lips and had to stop the video.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh god, Jessie J did that with the "Do It Like A Dude" video and that is probably the number one reason why I detest her
it just looks diseased
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
i AM annoyed that kalenna only made a "teaser" video for half the song - the full song is essential because it completely changes midway through but i guess she couldn't be bothered to finish the video? she did the same for "go to work". bad media strategy kalenna.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Miguel will most likely make both my album and song list, though "Arch n Point" remains my miguel single of choice.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, December 13, 2012 4:50 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yup! i was like i can stick with this for less than two minutes but turns out i couldn't.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
this is the full song without the weird lips!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVKncaDUxeY
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
"Matte Black Truck" (Rampaging Herpes mix)
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
(I do like "Matte Black Truck" but I can't help but feel that it would be much more at home in 2002 than 2012)
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
thanking u lex
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 13, 2012 2:41 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they're probably sending 'em out to all same people as last year?
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
i assume so, don't know how much effort has been made at updating/expanding address book but they usually seem to start w/ the previous year's pool
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
*awaits ballot*
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
try hanging out with shitty indie bands kalenna
Solange's last name is Knowles, don't know if that means something but I think it might
― men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
it seems to mean more than it did last time
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
Kalenna is related to Canadian PM Stephen Harper tho.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
"Losing You" is a better overall song/performance than "I Decided"
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
About 557,000 results (0.23 seconds) for "i decided" + solange
ugh no xp
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
hmm i don't rep for "i decided" particularly but no way is the torpid dullness of "losing you" better than "sandcastle disco" or "t.o.n.y." or "would've been the one"
― lex pretend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
I don't even particularly like "Losing You" all that much and think it's being overpraised but at least it isn't wholly repellent and awful
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
when everyone was freaking out over "I Decided", I seriously thought half of ILX had gone deaf
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
all solange praise makes me feel like i'm taking crazy pills
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
What kind of pharmaceuticals you getting in Baltimore
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
I will say though, Solange's version of "Stillness Is The Move" is great
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
― Tim F, Thursday, 13 December 2012 15:14 (6 hours ago) Permalink
great post fight the bullshit ilm 2012 \m/
― flopson, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
I like some Kalenna OK but don't like "Matte black truck" at all at all
― men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't realize I was still on the P&J mailing list! (Haven't voted since 2007.) Could probably throw together a list, but I'm not an "active" "critic" and would prefer not to sully the waters.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Did you get a ballot last year?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
Comments for the Guardian trax list are (predictably) a treat.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
So, is there any kind of groundswell I'm out of the loop on of people opting out of voting in Pazz & Jop? I just got my ballot, too, and still haven't decided what I'm doing.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
It looks like I did, I just didn't remember.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
poll-nullification would be better
1500 ballots all for 'call me maybe'
― j., Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
there we go ballot arrived
are some people boycotting it this year or something?
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
not sure if there'd really be a boycott as much as one big "ugh i don't really care anymore"
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
i voted. hastiest/laziest ballot i ever sent in. didn't even bother ranking my albums
― Mordy, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't there a "vote for hinder" effort the last time this happened?
― The Reverend, Thursday, 13 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
there has been a general apprehensive "i'm gonna vote...unless you're not gonna, why, have you heard anything?" vibe about it all this year. if Jackin' Pop was on i'd throw my support behind that but as is i still feel like throwing my 2 cents in to see how it goes this year, who knows what'll be going on with it a year from now.
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
i voted. hastiest/laziest ballot i ever sent in. didn't even bother ranking my albums --Mordy
You show them.
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
this is different than when they fired xgau because the voice was still doing good work then... not sure i want to implicitly throw my (however insignificant!) weight behind "hmm i wonder which black person white people will vote for this year" blog posts
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
i love showing ppl up by being lazy. it's the easiest revolution
― Mordy, Friday, 14 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
i guess i must be master class showing ppl up, i got exhausted just looking at the email
― THE NATIONS YOUTH DANCED TO THE MACARANA (innocent) (zachlyon), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still gonna vote idc
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:12 (eleven years ago) link
the world is fucked up & there are greater injustices
i realize thats a fallacious argument but eh
Ah, there's my ballot - sent to my old email address.
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
I voted in the prez election this year, might as well vote for P&J. Plus, Obama doesn't want to read my comments about him.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 December 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
who is the morbz of pazz & jop
― Andrew WKRP (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 14 December 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not a voter, but I sure as hell wouldn't do anything to support the regime of a dude who doesn't even know the difference between shudders and shutters.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Friday, 14 December 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
"shutters" is seriously one of the saddest/funniest things I've ever read
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Friday, 14 December 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
suggest boycott
― flopson, Friday, 14 December 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
haha i really hope the ballot i just sent in goes through. if anyone's actually at the switch though, i highly doubt it will.
― back in judy's tenuta (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 14 December 2012 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
he sent me two ID numbers. concerned about potential counter-shenanigans
― shoup, Friday, 14 December 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
btw anyone who doesn't want to submit a ballot, I'll do one for you
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Friday, 14 December 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
xp The Guardian commenters have gone nuclear this year on the tracks thread. They think it's a disgrace and an embarrassment and all the songs sound the same and they want everyone who voted for them to resign. Even by EOY standards the hatefest is quite something.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:16 (eleven years ago) link
it's amazing life-giving stuff. and i thought they couldn't top last year's outrage
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link
"Those two ridiculous and unforgivable misjudgements mean that I will dismiss the rest of what you have to say about the music that I haven't heard."
OK then, take care, bye.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
Kerrang! individual ballots for those of you looking to have your Enter Shikari and Papa Roach love justified: http://www.kerrang.com/blog/2012/12/the_kerrang_teams_top_10_album.html
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
dunno if they've done the overall poll yet or if there's any mileage in trying to work it out or if anyone cares or or or
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
If anyone's reading the Guardian and has a say over these things, I implore you to just let Tom Ewing put this post up in its entirety, with any relevant names updated for 2012:
http://tomewing.tumblr.com/post/14189168260/a-music-website-has-chosen-something-unacceptable-in
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
"this must be a joke right? In fact the entire list is embarrassing.....as for talk of innovative pop song etc....it's the very opposite so cliched and dull consequently..even the video is cliche....I kind of hope this is a joke because otherwise the entire music staff and the Guardian should go write for Smash Hits....thankfully I never ever read any music reviews on The Guardian and stick to UnCut......I now know why...."
"Remember it's the music 'business', thats all it's about 'business'. Forget 'creativity' forget 'art' forget 'expression' forget 'depth'. But do remember 'business'. Now how do you like your business served? Cold, calculated, clinical? Focus group music? Fine...then this list is all you need. Enjoy your business!"
"WTF is this list, is it meant as an ironic joke about the state of the music industry, thank god I was a teenager in the 70s, and not now, I feel so sorry for young people these days having to listen to such rubbish. This list should include Justin Beaver or whatever his name is. Total crap."
"task for guardian critics in 2013: get better taste, people are laughing at you.
I'm a proud musical snob, so do these things:
Listen to BBC 3's late junction at least once a weekRead Wire publicationWhen in London, go to Cafe OtoPurchase Boomkat's single of the weekAvoid Fearne Cotton generally
Next year, your list should be engaging and free of indulgent pap."
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link
Enjoy your business!
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
The EOY year lists tend to bring out curmudgeons that don't actually read / comment on the Guardian's music pages at any other time of the year. It's a mystery why they're so invested in it come December.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22Justin+Beaver+or+whatever+his+name+is%22&oq=%22Justin+Beaver+or+whatever+his+name+is%22&gs_l=hp.3...84.1105.1.1831.3.3.0.0.0.1.458.1175.2-1j0j2.3.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.QY2WmRUZE_Y&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.d2k&fp=a990c85c38ccdf8e&bpcl=39967673&biw=1143&bih=702
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 09:59 (eleven years ago) link
top result is a tweet by former Cardiff City defender Spencer Prior
― an area the size of Jimmy Wales (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link
Does bieber or biber not just mean beaver in German anyway?
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link
The sad thing is that so many of them honestly can't distinguish between Rihanna/Savages/Plan B/TNGHT. They're so estranged from music, and often at a surprisingly young age, that they have to take out their frustration on new artists and anyone who likes them. They can't keep up but they won't let go so the only option is to blame someone else: "I don't listen to modern music not because I'm growing older but because it's all terrible." These people seem to really dig solo albums by ex-members of Britpop bands.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link
At least those ex-members still have souls and sing their own songs.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
This commenter on the Channel Orange article has clearly seen through your scheming:
It's not a bad album...but I get the impression that it's number 1 for reasons other than musical.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
xp Makes you realise that outside of the ILX/music critic bubble the world of "serious" music fans is, and always will be, Rockism Central.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
Resident Advisor - Top 20 Albumshttp://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1704
01. Voices from the Lake - Voices From the Lake [Prologue]02. Actress - RIP [Honest Jon's]03. John Talabot - fIN [Permanent Vacation]04. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems [Modern Love]05. Daphni - Jiaolong [Jiaolong]06. Shackleton - Music for the Quiet Hour [Woe to the Septic Heart]07. Vessel - Order of Noise [Tri Angle]08. Shed - The Killer [50 Weapons]09. Robert Hood - Motor: Nighttime World 3 [Music Man]10. Barker & Baumecker - Transsektoral [Ostgut Ton]11. Jam City - Classical Curves [Night Slugs]12. Grimes - Visions [4AD]13. Lee Gamble - Diversions 1994 - 1996 [PAN]14. Recondite - On Acid [Acid Test]15. Silent Servant - Negative Fascination [Hospital Productions]16. Chromatics - Kill for Love [Italians Do It Better]17. Ricardo Villalobos - Dependent and Happy [Perlon]18. Smallpeople - Salty Days [Smallville]19. Laurel Halo - Quarantine [Hyperdub]20. Raime - Quarter Turns Over a Living Line [Blackest Ever Black]
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
01. Voices from the Lake - Voices From the Lake [Prologue]03. John Talabot - fIN [Permanent Vacation]04. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems [Modern Love]05. Daphni - Jiaolong [Jiaolong]15. Silent Servant - Negative Fascination [Hospital Productions]18. Smallpeople - Salty Days [Smallville]
^^AWESOME
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
I just don't understand that Voices From The Lake album. Also i vastly preferred Andy Stott's stuff from last year
― Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
the Shed album is kind of on the verge of really doing it for me but I can't fully commit. might give it another go later
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:09 (eleven years ago) link
AV Club pick their least essential albums of 2012, boo to their number one choice http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-least-essential-albums-of-2012,89882/2/
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link
How the hell have I never heard Ian Brown singing Thriller before?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link
AV Club gave "least essential album" to A*Teens two years in a row so i view it as a mark of distinction.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea that Fear album existed and that thing w/ Praga Khan sounds incredible so they can have a pass for being smooth rong re: Farrah A
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
wtf this sounds nothing like Injected With A Poison, it's just some douchery. BOOOOOOOOOOO
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:26 (eleven years ago) link
That Robert Hood album is great as well although you don't read Resident Advisor for their album reviews really.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
cosign on the Robert Hood
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
I need to give that Andy Stott album another go, I found it a bit dense and smokey when I first listened to it.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
in a paper like the guardian's comments, definitely, but there are lots of music fans who are quite open minded without being ilx types or music critics. don't you guys have friends who you give tips to who like good things but seldom hunt them down themselves? a lot of my old friends are like this.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
and of course, as ever, the pleased person or the person who politely agrees or enjoyed a piece, they don't even bother commenting.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:40 (eleven years ago) link
been meaning to check that Robert Hood album out, I shall give it a go.
― Neil S, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ boring posts of our time
Actually there are quite a few positive comments (and ironic expressions of outrage) on that thread.
I dunno though the neanderthal lad-rock hanger on who thinks Ian Brown is god is still a significant and vocal demographic, they just don't have very much to latch onto now.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
NPR listener top 50:
Mumford & Sons, BabelOf Monsters And Men, My Head Is An AnimalAlabama Shakes, Boys And GirlsJack White, BlunderbussGrizzly Bear, ShieldsThe Lumineers, The LumineersFrank Ocean, Channel OrangeBeach House, BloomThe xx, CoexistFiona Apple, The Idler Wheel...fun., Some NightsThe Avett Brothers, The CarpenterJapandroids, Celebration RockRegina Spektor, What We Saw From The Cheap SeatsPassion Pit, GossamerAndrew Bird, Break It YourselfCat Power, SunThe Shins, Port Of MorrowFirst Aid Kit, The Lion's RoarTame Impala, LonerismThe Tallest Man On Earth, There's No Leaving NowDirty Projectors, Swing Lo MagellanAlt-J, An Awesome WaveMacklemore & Ryan Lewis, The HeistKendrick Lamar, good kid, M.A.A.D. cityGotye, Making MirrorsGrimes, VisionsLana Del Rey, Born To DieKishi Bashi, 151aDavid Byrne & St. Vincent, Love This GiantSharon Van Etten, TrampSigur Ros, ValtariLeonard Cohen, Old IdeasBruce Springsteen, Wrecking BallFather John Misty, Fear FunAmanda Palmer, Theatre Is EvilEdward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeros, HereNorah Jones, Little Broken HeartsPurity Ring, ShrinesBob Dylan, TempestThe Mountain Goats, Transcendental YouthNeil Young & Crazy Horse, Psychedelic PillBest Coast, The Only PlaceSantigold, Master Of My Make-BelieveThe Walkmen, HeavenSleigh Bells, Reign Of TerrorCloud Nothings, Attack On MemoryBat For Lashes, The Haunted ManBand Of Horses, Mirage RockM. Ward, A Wasteland Companion
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:51 (eleven years ago) link
fun list
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not 100% into it - some bits do feel like a drag but there's a few tracks where he switches things up and throws in an extra ingredient like a slight increase in tempo or something and those songs are just spellbinding for me.
Claro Intelecto should have made the list imo, that album sounded gorgeous in the summer and now it sounds perfect in the winter, such a spacious and detailed record.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
I gave the Beach House album another listen today. I liked a lot of the songs, although after about 8 of them they do seem to melt into one. It does take its cues from the Cocteaus (although I did admittedly exaggerate their facsimiliousness (word?) upthread); I can see why people think she could be a male singer although that's not the impression I get. And I still couldn't make out more than a couple of lyrics on the whole album, the way the vocals are mixed.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, December 14, 2012 11:40 AM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is u+k esp in regard to all the tools on there giving it the big YOU'RE LOSING YOUR READERSHIP spiel. there may well be a stack of reasons why the paper is losing its readership but I doubt writing with earnest positivity about music enjoyed by young people is that high up the list
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
FWIW, I haven't checked the Guardian comments boxes because I like music.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
yeah idk why I do it to myself other than that I have a problem
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes its fun to watch strangers getting pointlessly butthurt about things.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
new board description amirite
― Neil S, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
i'm endlessly entertained by the outraged thundering from guardian commenters ("HANG YOUR HEADS IN SHAME" <3 <3 <3 ) but it's also really nice to see the rare lovely, complimentary comment
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure the guardian comments are hideous and rockist and all things evil, but i am surprised at a newspaper so happily being in conflict w/ the tastes and feelings of its readership (and yeah yeah, free interweb commentators are not the exact same thing as actual paying punters - but there must be a large degree of crossover.) i spoke to someone who works for the mirror group a little while ago, and they pointed out to me that there IS still a relatively large core of ppl over the age of forty who remain loyal to newsprint, and are likely to still buy papers for another 30 years or so - whereas, the readership under 30 is pretty much lost, gone, never to return. now you cld say it was...brave...to rep so hard for stuff that yr readers by and large disliked, or dismissed as pap (and we know that the traditional british left has always had a prob w/ popular culture, for all sorts of reasons) - but i can't really see the commercial sense in it, and i can't see such an agressively oppositional stance making many new converts, either. so it all looks a bit like journos talking to themselves and congratulating themselves on their free-thinking taste - which is not really a good look, imho
as a wire reading cafe oto-ing tosser i also despair at the lack of keiji haino on that list WHAT WERE THEY THINKING
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
But the Guardian's online readership, or a significant proportion of it, is under 30 and that's where the debate is going on. We don't know the age of most of the commenters. The number of people shaking their heads at the print version is probably relatively small, no one is going to stop buying the print version of the Guardian because its music section has plumped for Carly Rae Jespen over Dylan.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure you know more abt this than me, Matt - but then, why aren't more of the online readers endorsing this poll?
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
That's one of the most refreshing things about the Guardian's music policy. I don't think it necessarily neglects casual readers or ones more wedded to traditional rock but it's also really willing to take risks and follow its own path at the same time.
The difference always seems to be whether music articles are linked to the home page. Anything placed in the culture section will generally get an ok response, anything linked to the home page will have people who logged in to complain about immigration or Obama chipping in on Taylor Swift at the same time.
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
courtesy of our very own Herman G Neuname, lets all have a good laugh at the Kerrang! top 100 albums list.
101 FEARLESS VAMPIRE KILLERS - MILITIA OF THE LOST100 GREEN DAY iDOS!99 FOZZY - SIN AND BONES98 BLACKLISTERS - BLKLSTRS97 WILLIAM CONTROL - SHITENIUM AMORIS96 GALLOWS - GALLOWS95 SET IT OFF - CINEMATICS94 ENSLAVED - RIITIIR93 NAPALM DEATH - UTILITARIAN92 YOU SLUT! - MEDIUM BASTARD91 THE GHOST INSIDE - GET WHAT YOU GIVE90 LINKIN PARK - LIVING THINGS89 SAINT VITUS - LILLIE:F-6588 TORCHE - HARMONICRAFT87 BURY TOMORROW - THE UNION OF CROWNS86 YASHIN - WE CREATED A MONSTER85 MESHUGGAH - KOLOSS84 OFF! - OFF!83 DON BROCO - PRIORITIES82 WHITECHAPEL - SHITECHAPEL81 THE WORD ALIVE - LIFE CYCLES80 HIGH ON FIRE - DE VERMIS MYSTERIIS79 THERAPY?- A BRIEF CRACK OF LIGHT78 PERIPHERY - ii77 MARILYN MANSON - BORN VILLAIN76 ...AND YOU WILL KNOW US BY THE TRAIL OF DEAD - LOST SONGS75 FEED THE RHINO - THE BURNING SONS74 DEAF HAVANA - FOOLS AND WORTHLESS LIARS73 SLASH- APOCALYPTIC LOVE72 NECRO DEATHMORT - THE COLONIAL SCRIPT71 BRAD - UNITED WE STAND70 WE ARE THE OCEAN - MAYBE TODAY, MAYBE TOMORROW69 COHEED AND CAMBRIA - THE AFTERMAN:ASCENSION68 YOUR DEMISE - THE GOLDEN AGE67 MEMPHIS MAY FIRE - CHALLENGER66 LOSTPROPHETS - WEAPONS65 JOYCE MANOR -OF ALL THINGS I WILL SOON GROW TIRED64 KISS - MONSTER63 DEVIN TOWNSEND PROJECT - EPICLOUD62 NACHTMYSTIUM - SILENCING MACHINE61 SMASHING PUMPKINS - OCEANIA60 METZ - METZ59 SHINEDOWN - SYPHILIS58 THE MARS VOLTA - NOCTOURNIQUET57 NOW, NOW- THREADS56 BLACK MOTH - THE KILLING JAR55 SERJ TANKIAN - HARAKIRI54 TONIGHT ALIVE - WHAT ARE YOU SO SCARED OF?53 OF MICE & MEN - THE FLOOD52 MUSE - THE 2ND LAW51 SKYHARBOR - BLINDING WHITE NOISE - ILLUSION AND CHAOS
50 MARK LANEGAN BAND- BLUES FUNERAL49 HALESTORM - THE STRANGE CASE OF48 ALL TIME LOW -DON'T PANIC47 TURBONEGRO - SEXUAL HARASSMENT46 TITLE FIGHT - FLORAL GREEN45 NEUROSIS - HONOR FOUND IN DECAY44 ALCEST - Les Voyages De L'Âme43 PILGRIM - MISERY WIZARD42 MOTIONLESS IN SHITE - INFAMOUS41 THE DARKNESS - SHIT CAKES40 WOODS OF YPRES- WOODS 5:GREY SKIES & ELECTRIC LIGHT39 ORANGE GOBLIN - A EULOGY FOR THE DAMNED38 STEVE HARRIS - BRITISH LION37 BLACK BREATH - SENTENCED TO LIFE36 ARCHITECTS - DAYBREAKER35 ROLO TOMASSI - ASTRAEA34 MIXTAPES - EVEN ON THE WORST NIGHTS33 THE CHARIOT- ONE WING32 KILLING JOKE - MMXII31 VISION OFDISORDER - THE CURSEDREMAIN CURSED30 RUSH - CLOCKWORK ANGELS29 LOSTALONE - I'M A UFO IN THIS CITY28 AXEWOUND - VULTURES27 RIVAL SONS - HEAD DOWN26 DEVIL SOLD HIS SOUL - EMPIRE OF LIGHT25 STONE SOUR - HOUSE OF GOLD AND BONES PART 124 PARKWAY DRIVE - ATLAS23 YOUNG GUNS - BONES22 BILLY NO-TALENT - DEAD SILENCE21 BARONESS - YELLOW & GREEN20 EVERYTIME I DIE - EX LIVES19 THE GASLIGHT ANTHEM - HANDWRITTEN18 SOUNDGARDEN - KING ANIMAL17 CANCER BATS - DEAD SET ON LIVING16 GOJIRA - L'ENFANT SAUSAGE15 LOWER THAN ATLANTIS - CHANGING TUNE14 PAPA ROACH - THE CONNECTION13 THE MENZINGERS - ON THE IMPOSSIBLE PAST12 WINTERFYLLETH - THE THRENODY OF TRIUMPH11 HAWK EYES - IDEAS10 LAMB OF GOD- RESOLUTION9 MOTION SHITTY SOUNDTRACK - GO8 BLOOD SAUSAGE - FUNERAL BEACH7 GREEN DAY - !UNO6 CONVERGE - ALL WE LOVE WE LEAVE BEHIND5 PIERCE THE VEIL - COLLIDE WITHTHE SKY4 WHILE SHE SLEEPS- THIS IS THE SIX3 ANATHEMA - WEATHER SYSTEMS2 DEFTONES - KOI NO YOKAN1 ENTER SHITARI - A FLASHFLOOD OF COLOUR
― Neil S, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
imo it's almost giving them too much credit to talk about graun commentators in terms of an oppositional discourse, you can go on p much any article about anything on there and find the same soulless misanthropic knobheads impotently gurning away
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
they say the same thing abt ilx
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
great point, really makes you think
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:38 (eleven years ago) link
It's always the dumbest voices which are the loudest. For all the outraged fossils in the Guardian comments section, there are probably 10 more who enjoyed and agreed with it to some extent.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
ENTER SHITARI - see what you did there.
Amazing to think those guys started out playing at the same local venue I promote in and now they're topping the Kerrang list.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
I suspect the thing that's most enraging the comments box crew is the Carly Rae/Usher double whammy at the top and being angry about mainstream pop and/or R&B isn't really something that's confined to older people.
I dunno, I think any poll trying to second-guess or consciously cater to the tastes of a readership as broad as the Guardian's would just end up kind of glom-in-the-middle or fail at its stated aim anyway. Especially in a year like 2012 without any real defining narrative. That way lies modern-era Village Voice cobblers.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
it's the people who don't enjoy Call Me Maybe OR Guardian commentalists i feel sorry for greatly admire
― nashwan, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
the lower rungs of that Guardian poll are infinitely more interesting than the top 10.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
good to see early 90s riot grrrl band Blood Sausage bouncing back and getting K! kudos
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
It's always the dumbest voices which are the loudest.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:39 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
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― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
Gorblimey.
I'm trying to get my head round exactly how awful a Green Day album would have to be to only make #100 on a Kerrang! list.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
xxxp on the Kerrang list ha! Wasn't me, I copied and pasted as was.
― Neil S, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
8 BLOOD SAUSAGE - FUNERAL BEACH
preferred their previous album Big Bottomed Bird
― nashwan, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
you have mistaken my facile lazy comeback w/ a 'point', rtc
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
hah just remembered that p much the only graun commentator i'd ever thought seemed cool turned out to be sharivari in the end
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
92 YOU SLUT! - MEDIUM BASTARD
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's odd to see people assuming that the guardian's EOY lists are reflective of pushing a particular musical policy rather than throwing all the contributors' semi-unpredictable taste into a hat and seeing what comes out in the wash, and also that the taste of the "guardian readership" is at all homogeneous itself
and yeah almost every guardian section gets this to an extent, the music section doesn't even get the most hatred or outrage. the only articles with pleasant comments are the really niche ones that only enthusiasts will care about in the first place
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
also it's not exactly pushing a mainstream pop line when only 5/20 of the top trax were top 40 hits
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the comments thing is a problem everywhere, really, not just the guardian. look at the number of people who just post "tony b liar" or whatever on any/every political thread.
they're not even representative of anything, i bet a huge majority of people, probably even their core audience, don't ever post a single comment, on anything, let alone on the music site. i don't have any proof of that statement except that i know they've started using community co-ordinator's to go below the line and try and make the debates more interesting and productive.
the reality is that most commenters just want to say whatever three opinions they have about something and get angry about them if at all possible, for whatever modern-day substitute for counselling or general stimulation it offers.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
a greengrocer's apostrophe in there, jesus
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
Mmm...I wonder if Frank Ocean was a known homophobe (you know...like most of the R&B scene), would he have won???
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:16 (eleven years ago) link
xpost Speaking seriously - as someone who is white, middle aged, likes guitar music best, and writes about music for the Guardian – it does sometimes concern me that print coverage is given to music that most of the print readership are not going to care about for a second. For so long, print was about chasing the youth, and it seems there's still a lot of that, even though the youth have completely given up on print. I'm among the oldest of the regular music writers, and I know I'm a decade younger than the average age of a print reader. These days the people writing the music coverage are a great deal younger than most of the people reading it.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:19 (eleven years ago) link
there's a bit of a problem whereby a lot of people who like non-rock music don't necessarily like reading about it.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure how much of that older print readership overlaps with the angry comments box dudes though? I wonder how much of that print readership would even care that much if you blanketed the section with bands like Django Django or Tame Impala, who aren't going to be any great mystery to older readers.
I mean generally speaking there just aren't as many of those kinds of acts around any more, relative to 10 or 15 years ago. So you either up the amount of classical or jazz content or start doing a lot of Mojo-style heritage writing.
But given the print readership is a small proportion of the overall readership these days you'd end up with a pretty artificially skewed editorial line.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
xp another problem is that they might want to read about that music but not in a national newspaper. non-rock music coverage developed in specialist mags for years, then online thru all kinds of outlets. more recently you have a situation where a national newspaper appears unrivalled (to other newspapers) in its coverage or even compared to floundering mags like NME who presumably don't get quite as much comment-hate for their lists tho perhaps still a reasonable amount (regardless of what's actually on the lists).
― nashwan, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
FACT tracks list is up:http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/13/top-100-tracks-of-2012/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
Bit of a click-fest, can spoil the surprise if you like...
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
FACT - The 100 best tracks of 2012
01: ANDRES ‘NEW FOR U’ (LA VIDA)02: JULIA HOLTER ‘MARIENBAD’ (RVNG INTL.)03: KING BRITT ‘THE CHASE’ (from CHASING RAINBOWS EP, HYPERDUB)04: KENDRICK LAMAR FEAT. GUNPLAY ‘CARTOON AND CEREAL’ (SELF-RELEASED)05: JESSIE WARE 'RUNNING (DISCLOSURE REMIX)' (PMR)06: ZEBRA KATZ FEAT. NJENA REDD FOXX ‘IMA READ’ (JEFFREE’S)07: KUEDO ‘LIVE WORK AND SLEEP IN COLLAPSING SPACE’ (LAUREL HALO REMIX) (PLANET MU)08: ODD FUTURE ‘OLDIE’ (from THE OF TAPE VOL. 2, ODD FUTURE / SONY)09: VATICAN SHADOW ‘CAIRO IS A HAUNTED CITY’ (from SEPTEMBER CELL EP, BED OF NAILS)10: BLOOM ‘QUARTZ’ (GOBSTOPPER)11: ALDEN TYRELL ‘TOUCH THE SKY’ (CLONE JACK FOR DAZE)12: RICK ROSS FEAT. GUNPLAY, STALLEY, WALE, MEEK MILL & KENDRICK LAMAR ‘POWER CIRCLE’ (from SELF-MADE VOL. 2, MAYBACH MUSIC GROUP / WARNER)13: FRANK OCEAN ‘THINKIN BOUT YOU’ (from CHANNEL ORANGE, ISLAND DEF JAM)14: DARQ E FREAKER FEAT. DANNY BROWN ‘BLUEBERRY (PILLS AND COCAINE)’ (SOUTHERN HOSPITALITY)15: GIRL UNIT ‘ENSEMBLE’ (CLUB MIX) (from CLUB REZ EP, NIGHT SLUGS)16: JEREMIH ’777 LOVE’ (from LATE NIGHTS WITH JEREMIH, MIXTAPE)17: KODIAK ‘SPREO SUPERBUS’ (NUMBERS)18: CONRAD SCHNITZLER ‘ZUG’ (MAX LODERBAUER & RICARDO VILLALOBOS SORGENKIND-MIX)(from ZUG – RESHAPED AND REMODELED, M=MINIMAL)19: PREDITAH ‘CIRCLES’ (EARTH616)20: FUTURE ‘TURN ON THE LIGHTS’ (from PLUTO, EPIC)21: USHER ‘CLIMAX’ (from LOOKING 4 MYSELF, RCA)22: SILENT SERVANT ‘TEMPTATION & DESIRE’ (from NEGATIVE FASCINATION, HOSPITAL PRODUCTIONS)23: GRIMES ‘GENESIS’ (4AD)24: JOY ORBISON & BODDIKA ‘SWIMS’ (SWAMP81)25: BOOKWORMS ‘AFRICAN RHYTHMS’ (L.I.E.S.)26: JAI PAUL ‘JASMINE’ (XL)27: OBJEKT ‘CACTUS’ (HESSLE AUDIO)28: NAS ‘THE DON’ (ISLAND DEF JAM)29: EVIAN CHRIST ‘MYD’ (from KINGS AND THEM, TRI ANGLE)30: WILEY FEAT. RIKO, MANGA & FLOW DAN ‘F OFF’ (SELF-RELEASED)31: LOGOS ‘KOWLOON’ (KEYSOUND)32: AMBER LONDON ‘LOW MF KEY’ (from 1994 EP, SELF-RELEASED)33: TINASHE ‘BOSS’ (RYAN HEMSWORTH REMIX) (SELF-RELEASED)34: MYKKI BLANCO ‘WAVVY’ (from COSMIC ANGEL: THE ILLUMINATI PRINCE/SS, UNO NYC)35: EVY JANE ‘SAYSO’ (KING DELUXE)36: MADTEO ‘RUGRATS DON’T TECHNO FOR AN ANSWER’ (from NOI NO, SAHKO)37: LE1F ‘WUT’ (from DARK YORK, GREEDHEAD ENTERTAINMENT / CAMP & STREET)38: BLAWAN ‘WHY THEY HIDE THEIR BODIES UNDER MY GARAGE?’ (HINGE FINGER)39: MELÉ ‘GOLD CASIO’ (from VANELE VOL.1, MIXTAPE)40: AVA LUNA ‘ICE LEVEL’ (from ICE LEVEL, INFINITE BEST)41: MIGUEL ‘ADORN’ (RCA)42: HOW TO DRESS WELL ‘& IT WAS U’ (from TOTAL LOSS, WEIRD WORLD)43: M.I.A. ‘BAD GIRLS’ (INTERSCOPE)44: TNGHT ‘HIGHER GROUND’ (WARP / LUCKYME)45: A$AP MOB ‘BANGING ON WAXX’ (from LORD$ NEVER WORRY, MIXTAPE)46: CASSIE feat. YOUNG JEEZY ‘BALCONY’ (BAD BOY / INTERSCOPE)47: S-TYPE ‘BILLBOARD’ (from BILLBOARD EP, LUCKYME)48: SCHOOLBOY Q feat. A$AP ROCKY ‘HANDS ON THE WHEEL’ (from HABITS AND CONTRADICTIONS, TOP DAWG ENTERTAINMENT)49: BENEATH ‘STILL HURTS’ (from NO SYMBOLS 002, NO SYMBOLS)50: GEEEMAN ‘BANG’T’ (CLONE JACK FOR DAZE)51: MIKEQ feat. JAY KARAN ‘LET IT ALL OUT 2012’ (from LET IT ALL OUT EP, FADE TO MIND)52: TESSELA ‘D JANE’ (PUNCH DRUNK)53: BUSTA RHYMES feat. CHRIS BROWN, MISSY ELLIOTT & LIL WAYNE ‘WHY STOP NOW’ (REMIX) (CONGLOMERATE / UNIVERSAL)54: BAAUER ‘HARLEM SHAKE’ (JEFFREE’S)55: FUNKINEVEN & FATIMA ‘PHONELINE’ (EGLO)56: JUICY J feat. LIL WAYNE & 2 CHAINZ ‘BANDZ A MAKE HER DANCE’ (TAYLOR GANG / KEMOSABE / COLUMBIA)57: CHROMATICS ‘BACK FROM THE GRAVE’ (from KILL FOR LOVE, ITALIANS DO IT BETTER)58: LUKID ‘USSR’ (from LONELY AT THE TOP, WERK DISCS)59: ANGEL HAZE ‘NEW YORK’ (from RESERVATIONS, MIXTAPE)60: ACTION BRONSON feat. RIFF RAFF ‘BIRD ON A WIRE’ (SURF SCHOOL)61: MALA ‘STAND AGAINST WAR’ (DMZ)62: CHAMPION ‘CRYSTAL METH’ (BUTTERZ)63: SKY FERREIRA ‘EVERYTHING IS EMBARASSING’ (CAPITOL)64: MAIN ATTRAKIONZ feat. DAVINCI ‘DO IT FOR THE BAY’ (from BOSSALINIS & FOOLIYONES, YOUNG ONE)65: BOBBY WOMACK ‘PLEASE FORGIVE MY HEART’ (FUNK VERSION) (XL)66: KOWTON ‘DES BISOUS’ (PALE FIRE)67: KCAT ‘BROKEN’ (MIKE DELINQUENT RADIO EDIT) (MINDSET DANCE)68: BANDSHELL ‘DUST MARCH’ (HESSLE AUDIO)69: GUNPLAY feat. TRIPLE CS ‘FUCK SHIT IN MY LIFE’ (from BOGOTA RICH: THE PREQUEL, MIXTAPE)70: BLACKSMIF ‘…AND THE SUN ROSE OUT’ (SYNCHRONICITY)71: JOHN MAUS ‘NO TITLE (MOLLY)‘ (from A COLLECTION OF RARITIES AND PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED MATERIAL, RIBBON)72: ALUNAGEORGE ‘JUST A TOUCH’ (from YOU KNOW YOU LIKE IT, TRI ANGLE)73: DVA feat. NATALIE MADDIX ‘EYE KNOW’ (from PRETTY UGLY, HYPERDUB)74: DISCLOSURE ‘BOILING’ (EL-B REMIX) (SELF-RELEASED)75: THROWING SNOW ‘CLAMOR’ (from CLAMOR EP, SNOWFALL)76: CHIEF KEEF feat. LIL REESE ‘I DON’T LIKE’ (from BACK FROM THE DEAD, MIXTAPE)77: BONDAX ‘BABY I GOT THAT’ (JUST US / RELENTLESS)78: KANYE WEST feat. BIG SEAN, PUSHA T AND 2 CHAINZ ‘MERCY’ (from CRUEL SUMMER, G.O.O.D. MUSIC / DEF JAM)79: CONTAINER ‘PARALYZED’ (from LP, SPECTRUM SPOOLS)80: SPACEGHOSTPURRP ‘MYSTICAL MAZE’ (from GOD OF BLACK, MIXTAPE)81: ANDY STOTT ‘LUXURY PROBLEMS’ (from LUXURY PROBLEMS, MODERN LOVE)82: KITTY PRYDE ‘OKAY CUPID’ (SELF-RELEASED)83: TRIM ‘LORD OF LORDS’ (from BANDOOLOU, FREE MIXTAPE)84: DEAN BLUNT & INGA COPELAND ‘9’ (from BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL, HYPERDUB)85: JULIO BASHMORE ‘AU SEVE’ (BROADWALK)86: DJ Q ‘ALL JUNGLIST’ (UNKNOWN TO THE UNKNOWN)87: KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN ‘ISSUE GENERATOR (FOR ELIANE RADIGUE)’ (from GENERATORS, EDITIONS MEGO)88: GRASS WIDOW ‘GOLDILOCKS ZONE’ (from INTERNAL LOGIC, HLR)89: SCOTT WALKER ‘SEE YOU DON’T BUMP HIS HEAD’ (from BISH BOSCH, 4AD)90: HOLLY HERNDON ‘BREATHE’ (from MOVEMENT, RVNG INTL.)91: SUPREME CUTS & HALEEK MAUL feat. DENIRO FARRAR ‘THE DUMMY’ (from CHROME LIPS, MISHKA)92: TRENDS ‘GREEN FOREST’ (FREE DOWNLOAD)93: JUSTIN MARTIN ‘DON’T GO’ (DUSKY REMIX) (from GHETTOS & GARDENS REMIXES VOL.1, DIRTYBIRD)94: RANDOMER ‘GET YOURSELF TOGETHER’ (HEMLOCK)95: 5KINANDBONE5 ‘RESET’ (UNKNOWN TO THE UNKNOWN)96: KAREN GWYER ‘NO MOONDOGGIES FOR THREE WEEKS’ (from I’VE BEEN YOU TWICE, KALEIDOSCOPE)97: RIHANNA feat. FUTURE ‘LOVEEEEEEE SONG’ (from UNAPOLOGETIC, DEF JAM)98: WBEEZA ‘BILLY GREEN IS DED’ (THIRD EAR)99: MO KOLOURS ‘RIDDA MOUNTAIN’ (from EP 2: BANANA WINE, ONE-HANDED MUSIC)100: JESSIE WARE ’110%’ (PMR / ISLAND)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
no carly rae #OUTRAGE
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
whats the king britt record like anyone? (cant play at work)
― coal, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
54: BAAUER ‘HARLEM SHAKE’ (JEFFREE’S)55: FUNKINEVEN & FATIMA ‘PHONELINE’ (EGLO)67: KCAT ‘BROKEN’ (MIKE DELINQUENT RADIO EDIT) (MINDSET DANCE)86: DJ Q ‘ALL JUNGLIST’ (UNKNOWN TO THE UNKNOWN)
^ these were all new to me but I liked them quite a lot on first listen
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like Andres but i can't imagine being that enthusiastic about him
― Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
overplayed record but no surprise as a no 1 result
― coal, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Funkineven is consistently great, more ppl should know about him
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I've knowingly heard that Andres record.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link
ya me either
what an ugly person list
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
I'm more rolling my eyes at voting a Julia Holter album track at #2 and I actually like that album.
― Matt DC, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think i've heard a quarter of those tracks TBH... Lists like that make me wonder what I did listen to in 2012.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
dont know most of the stuff in most of the lists maybe you just played stuff you were into and didnt worry about it too much
― coal, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
I'm assuming this isn't the '90s band. When oh when will people learn to check their band name before releasing records?
― emil.y, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
i assumed it was an ILX joek.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Oh, ha, fair enough.
― emil.y, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno though
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
xpost They may be only a tiny fraction of our readership, the older readers. But they are, literally, the only ones who give us money.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
38: BLAWAN ‘WHY THEY HIDE THEIR BODIES UNDER MY GARAGE?’ (HINGE FINGER)
okay this is awesome
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
^^^^^^^^
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
I seem to remember Dog Latin raving about that earlier in the year?
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
lol this is also retroactively getting me into "Getting Me Down"
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
He's got a style and he's not afraid to use it. I like that style. Getting Me Down and Bodies are two sides of the same light/dark coin
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
the rap picks on fact are pretty good
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
Power Circle's not great though is it
― Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp Wow, never heard of Enter Shitari. Kerrang may be good for laughs, but there's some great stuff sprinkled in that's mostly neglected elsewhere -- Orange Goblin, Black Moth, Saint Vitus, Alcest. I can't believe this is the first list with Alcest! I had no idea Therapy was still around.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
i think it's kinda underrated xp
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
87: KEITH FULLERTON WHITMAN ‘ISSUE GENERATOR (FOR ELIANE RADIGUE)’ (from GENERATORS, EDITIONS MEGO)
Very happy that someone besides me likes this!
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
factie wacties
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 14 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
'New For U' still doesn't really do it for me.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 14 December 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
Cocaine Blunts Best Rap 2012
http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=7373
1. Kendrick Lamar f/ Gunplay – “Cartoon & Cereal” (THC)2. Future -”Turn On The Lights” (Mike Will Made It)3. Chief Keef f/ Lil Reese – “I Don’t Like” (Young Chop)4. Rich Kidz f/ Waka Flocka Flame – “My Life” (London On The Track)5. Nicki Minaj – “Come On A Cone” (Hit Boy)6. Ab-Soul – “The Book Of Soul” (Tommy Black)7. Meek Mill f/ Drake & Jeremih – “Amen” (Key Wayne & Jahlil Beats)8. Rocko f/ Future – “Squares Out Your Circle” (Ensayne Wayne)9. Gunplay – “Take This” (Slade Da Monster)10. Kanye West f/ 2 Chainz & Complex Magazine – “Mercy” (Lifted)11. Lil Durk – “Ls Anthem” (Paris Bueller)12. Gucci Mane f/ Waka Flocka Flame – “Walking Lick” (Mike Will Made It)13. Rick Ross f/ French Montana & Drake – “Stay Schemin” (Beat Bullies)14. Shy Glizzy – “Busters” (For That Money)15. Alpoko Don – “All I Know” (N/A)16. Young Thug – “Keep In Touch” (London On The Track)17. Earl Sweatshirt – “Chum” (Christian Rich)18. Schoolboy Q f/ Ab-Soul – “Druggy With Hoes Again” (Nez & Rio)19. Ty$ & Joe Moses – “Weekend” (DJ Mustard)20. Fat Trel – “Devil We Like” (Boss Major)21. Starlito – “Mental Warfare” (DJ Burn One)22. Chance The Rapper – “Juke Juke” (Caleb James)23. Aesop Rock – “Racing Stripes” (Aesop Rock)24. Plies – “Can’t Let ‘Em Bury Me” (Big Herb)25. King Louie – “Bars” (C-Sick)26. Ka – “Cold Facts” (Ka)27. E-40 f/ YG, Problem & Iamsu – “Function” (Trend)28. Young Scooter – “Colombia” (Lil Lody)29. Lil Reese – “Haters” (Dibent)30. Cousin Fik – “Knocka N**** Down” (Thizzy Monster)31. Odd Future – “Oldie” (Tyler, The Creator)32. The Underachievers – “Gold Soul Theory” (Rich Flyer)33. Mystikal – “Hit Me” (KLC)34. T.I. f/ Andre 3000 – “Sorry” (Jazze Pha)35. Trina f/ Gunplay and Ice Berg – “Beam” (??)36. Lil B – “I Own Swag” (David Banner/”Swag“)37. Metro Zu – “Sell Ma Ho” (Mr. B the Poshtronaut)38. Young Gleesh – “Skrong” (Somebody Else’s Instro No Royalties Batch)39. Killer Mike – “Southern Fried‘” (El-P)40. Lil Dev – “I’m Perkins” (Dnyc3/”Faded“)41. Jay Ant & Iamsu – “Stoopid (P-Lo)42. Cash Out – “Cashin Out” (DJ Spinz)43. Don Trip f/ Danny Brown & Starlito – “Gold” (The Futuristiks)44. Armstrong – “645” (Tony Fonzerelli)45. Tree – “All” (Tree)46. DJ Drama f/ 2 Chainz, Meek Mill & Jeremih – “My Moment” (T-Minus)47. Action Bronson f/ Riff Raff – “Bird On A Wire” (Harry Fraud)48. King of 334 Mobb – “Check On Me” (KE On The Track)49. Juicy J – “Bands A Make Her Dance” (Mike Will Made It)50. Macklemore f/ Wanz – “Thrift Shop” (Ryan Lewis)
― Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
so good
― flopson, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
10. Kanye West f/ 2 Chainz & Complex Magazine – “Mercy” (Lifted)
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
'amen' at 7 makes me happy
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
i'm going through the kerrang list just because they rated the deftones record, which is awesome.
i'd never heard enter shikari before today, but they're so awful that it's kind of compelling?
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
but uh, i think i'm in love with the blood command record (lol at the blood sausage talk upthread)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UCiiGQBjFs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
i thought noz's list was good
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah noz's list is pretty great
― Regional Tug (irrational), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
Probably not, but so what? If he was a homophobe, he'd be a completely different artist, wouldn't he? It's like saying, "If Bob Dylan was a known racist would he be so critically acclaimed?" It's a weird hypothetical.
― o. nate, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
That Best Coast cover album actually makes me angry when I see it, but I'm not sure why.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
what is a "known homophobe"?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
There are known known homophobes; there are homophobes we know that we know. There are known unknown homophobes; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know are homophobes. But there are also unknown unknown homophobes – there are homophobes we do not know we don't know.
― some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://radio.foxnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rumsfeld.jpg
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
Would love a list of "known homophobes" in "the R&B scene"
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
deej how soon can complex hook that up?
― some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
Mya did a song with Beenie Man once
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:49 (eleven years ago) link
Little White Earbuds:
10. Lone, Galaxy Garden09. Claro Intelecto, Reform Club08. Jahiliyya Fields, Unicursal Hexagram07. Laurel Halo, Quarantine06. Shackleton, Music For The Quiet Hour / The Drawbar Organ EPs05. Madteo, Noi No04. Terrence Dixon, From The Far Future Pt. 203. Andy Stott, Luxury Problems02. Juju & Jordash, Techno Primitivism01. Actress, R.I.P
― The Reverend, Saturday, 15 December 2012 07:29 (eleven years ago) link
^ pretty legit, save laurel halo i suppose. cool to see that jahiliyya fields album get some praise
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Saturday, 15 December 2012 08:09 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that album looks intriguing, even the terrible pun in the title is right my street.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
Daily Mail all y'allhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2247812/Best-albums-2012-Who-big-noise-2012.html
Actually if someone could cut and paste the list pretty please, we wouldn't be giving them added clicks
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link
KEANE - Strangeland (Island)Keane’s fourth album did for the seaside towns of East Sussex what Bruce Springsteen once did for his native New Jersey.
Keane’s fourth album did for the seaside towns of East Sussex what Bruce Springsteen once did for his native New Jersey.
Had no idea that Keane had even made an album this year, and what's worse, now i've read this blurb, i feel duty bound to listen to it. :(
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
Shame it's not West Sussex really, guess i'm going to have to sit on my Lancing In The Dark and Goring Days puns for now.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:21 (eleven years ago) link
Seaford Garden, does that work?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
so i guess i should do my pazz and jop now that i have a minute.
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 December 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
done! this is maybe the first year in a while where i haven't felt bad about not writing comments.
now to start compiling results for the poll i'm coordinating...
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 December 2012 13:17 (eleven years ago) link
some albums released in 2012 that i listened to a lot :
- soulsavers : the light the dead see.- dj food : the search engine.- lana del ray : born to die.- the jim jones revue : the savage heart.- michael kiwanuka : home again.- the pre new : music for people who hate themselves.- chromatics : kill for love (and the associated ‘drumless’ version).- o. children : apnea.- adrian sherwood : survival and resistance.- kindness : world, you need a change of mind.
― mark e, Saturday, 15 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, December 15, 2012 8:17 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what's this?
― some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
What's that, boy? Hey, gang, I think Shipley-Doo smells a poll!
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol i just wanna know what ray's up to
― some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
Splice today music poll
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
For what it's worth (?)This week, Consequence of Sound celebrates the year in music with its 2012 Annual Report, presented by Rdio. The report includes the website's selections for Top 50 Albums and Songs of the Year, as well as Top Videos of the Year, Artist of the Year, Band of the Year, Rookie of the Year, Music Festival of the Year, Top Photos of the Year, and The Year in News.Artist of the Year: Frank Ocean
Band of the Year: Death Grips
Rookie of the Year: Angel Haze
Festival of the Year: Fun Fun Fun Fest
Top 50 Albums of 201201. Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE
02. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...
03. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city
04. Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory
05. Swans - The Seer
06. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music
07. Beach House - Bloom
08. Japandroids - Celebration Rock
09. Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
10. Action Bronson - Blue Chips
11. Lambchop - Mr. M
12. Sharon Van Etten - Tramp
13. Angel Haze - Reservation EP
14. John Talabot - ƒin
15. Matthew E. White - Big Inner
16. Death Grips - The Money Store
17. Grimes - Visions
18. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream
19. Bat for Lashes - The Haunted Man
20. Divine Fits - A Thing Called Divine Fits
21. Chromatics - Kill For Love
22. Spiritualized - Sweet Heart, Sweet Light
23. Ty Segall - Slaughterhouse
24. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
25. El-P - Cancer For Cure
26. Liars - WIXIW
27. METZ - METZ
28. Purity Ring - Shrines
29. How to Dress Well - Total Loss
30. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch
31. TNGHT - TNGHT EP
32. Cat Power - Sun
33. Sleigh Bells - Reign of Terror
34. Leonard Cohen - Old Ideas
35. Tig Notaro - Live!
36. Future - Pluto
37. The Henry Clay People - Twenty Five for the Rest Of Our Lives
38. Beak - >>
39. Crystal Castles - (III)
40. Grizzly Bear - Shields
41. Tame Impala - Lonerism
42. The Men - Open Your Heart
43. The Smashing Pumpkins - Oceania
44. Joey Bada$$ - 1999
45. Allo Darlin' - Europe
46. Code Orange Kids - Love is Love // Return to Dust
47. Bob Mould - Silver Age
48. Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan
49. Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes
50. Nas - Life is good
Top 50 Songs of 2012:
01. Frank Ocean - "Thinkin Bout You"
02. Japandroids - "The House That Heaven Built"
03. Passion Pit - "I'll Be Alright"
04. Grimes - "Genesis"
05. Usher - "Climax"
06. Fiona Apple - "Every Single Night"
07. Kendrick Lamar - "Swimming Pools (Drank)"
08. Death Grips - "I've Seen Footage"
09. TNGHT - "Goooo"
10. Cloud Nothings - "Wasted Days"
11. Jessie Ware - "Wildest Moments"
12. Miguel - "Adorn"
13. Swans - "Apostate"
14. Carly Rae Jepsen - "Call Me Maybe"
15. Bat for Lashes - "All Your Gold"
16. Twin Shadow - "Five Seconds"
17. Skrillex feat. Sirah - "Bangarang"
18. Killer Mike feat. Bun B, T.I., and Trouble - "Big Beast"
19. Chromatics - "Kill for Love"
20. Torche - "Kicking"
21. Todd Terje - "Inspector Norse"
22. Spiritualized - "Hey Jane"
23. Action Bronson - "9-24-11"
24. Lambchop - "Gone Tomorrow"
25. King Tuff - "Bad Thing"
26. Beach House - "Myth"
27. Angel Haze - "Cleaning Out My Closet"
28. Divine Fits - "My Love Is Real"
29. Sharon Van Etten - "Serpents"
30. Jack White - "Love Interruption"
31. El-P - "The Full Retard"
32. Purity Ring - "Fineshrine"
33. Gorillaz feat. André 3000 and James Murphy - "DoYaThing"
34. Lotus Plaza - "Monoliths"
35. Solange Knowles - "Losing You"
36. Burial - "Kindred"
37. Chief Keef feat. Lil Reese - "I Don't Like"
38. The xx - "Angels"
39. Titus Andronicus - "My Eating Disorder"
40. Taylor Swift - "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"
41. Rick Ross feat. Meek Mill - "So Sophisticated"
42. The Walkmen - "Heaven"
43. Crystal Castles - "Sad Eyes"
44. Earl Sweatshirt - "Chum"
45. Leonard Cohen - "Come Healing"
46. Indian Handcrafts - "Bruce Lee"
47. Tanlines - "All of Me"
48. Cult of Youth - "Garden of Delights"
49. Ty Segall Band - "Wave Goodbye"
50. M.I.A. - "Bad Girls"
ABOUT CONSEQUENCE OF SOUND
Consequence of Sound (CoS) is a Chicago-based online music publication devoted to the ever growing and always thriving worldwide music scene. Since its inception in 2007, CoS has reported on all of music's breaking news, reviewed thousands of albums, hyped new artists and cracked highly anticipated lineups for music festivals across the globe. With a committed staff of just over 50 writers, editors, graphic designers, and photographers, CoS continues to successfully push its way ahead of the engaging and highly competitive new media market, drawing over 4 million impressions monthly.
Consequence of Sound is also the home of the long-form writing site Aux.Out. and the vlogging series Rock It Out! Blog.
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― dow, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Note Tig Notaro-Live
― dow, Saturday, 15 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure whether it's been posted or not, but Other Music's top 30 albums: http://othermusic.com/2012december15update.html
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Saturday, 15 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Can somebody at a PC tell me whether those are full mp3s on the OM site?
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
nope. from the ones i checked they are 1 minute 30 second samples ...
― mark e, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.afropop.org/wp/6432/running-down-the-year-part-1/
Someone named Sax*n Baird at afropop worldwide lists some of his fave caribbean (dancehall & soca or inspired by such) tunes for 2012:
Machel Montano – Go Down (Loudspeaker Riddim)
Popcaan – “When Mi Party” (Summer Wave Riddim
Vybz Kartel – ” R U Ready” Ft Stylysh (Buss Up Riddim)
Tnght Riddim – The Heatwave Refix Featuring Mr. Lexx & Nikisha
he also likes Montreal dj Poirier – Soca Road EP
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Juno Download - Top 100 EPs/Singles of 2012http://www.junodownload.com/plus/2012/12/11/best-of-2012-top-100-tracks-100-76/
Here's the top 25:
01 Andrés - New For U02 Mr Beatnick - Sun Goddess03 Anthony Naples - Mad Disrespect04 Omar S - S E X05 Kowton - Des Bisous06 Blawan - His He She & She07 Head High - RAVE08 Bookworms - Love Triangles09 Kahn & Neek - Percy/Fierce10 Kassem Mosse/Mix Mup - KM/MM11 Chasing Voices - Valley Of The Dry Bones12 Todd Terje - It’s The Arps13 Ekoplekz - Dromilly Vale14 Fatima / Funkineven - Phone Line15 Jam City - Now We Relate16 Bandshell - Dust March17 Powell - Body Music18 Max D - Polo19 DJ Sotofett - Pulehouse20 Willie Burns - The Overlord21 Tropic Of Cancer - Permissions Of Love22 Tessela - Channel/D Jane23 Delroy Edwards - 4 Club Use Only24 Untold - Change In A Dynamic Environment EP125 Marquis Hawkes - Cabrini Green EP
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Saturday, 15 December 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
Same #1 as FACT btw
drat
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 15 December 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Are we doing a Pazz & Jop thread this year?
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 16 December 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
02 Mr Beatnick - Sun Goddess
^^YASSSSSSso good
― lex pretend, Sunday, 16 December 2012 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, December 15, 2012 11:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
usually one doesn't get started until they unveil the results in january but invariably year there is one every year
― some dude, Sunday, 16 December 2012 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
first 'year' = 'yeah' obv
Line of Best Fit - tracks of 2012http://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/lists/the-best-fit-fifty-tracks-of-2012-114338
Tracks
50. Wolf Alice – Leaving You49. The Magnetic Fields – Quick!48. Taken By Trees – Dreams47. Dinosaur Jr. – Rude46. John Talabot – Destiny45. Lykke Li – Silver Springs44. HAERTS – Wings43. Savages – City’s Full (Live)42. Disclosure – Latch41. Purity Ring – Fineshrine40. M.I.A. - Bad Girls39. Doldrums – Jump Up38. San Zhi – Ice Light37. Luke Abbott – Modern Driveway36. Chvrches – The Mother We Share35. Little Nikki – Intro Intro34. The Neighbourhood – Female Robbery33. King Krule – Rock Bottom32. Postiljonen – How Will I Know / All That We Had Is Lost31. Iberia – An Ending (Ascent)30. Rhye – The Fall29. Lianne La Havas – Forget (Shlohmo remix)28. Katy B - Aaliyah (ft. Jessie Ware and Geeneus)27. Angel Haze – New York26. Beach House – Wild25. Usher - Climax24. Elliphant – Ciant Hear It23. Haim – Don’t Save Me22. Tamaryn – I’m Gone21. Echo Lake – Even The Blind20. DIIV – How Long Have You Known19. Foxes – Echo18. World Tour – Believe17. Bondax – Baby I Got That16. Sharon Van Etten – Serpents15. Kilo Kish – Navy14. Mikky Ekko – Pull Me Down13. Bobby Womack – Please Forgive My Heart12. Jens Lekman – I Know What Love Isn’t11. El Perro Del Mar – Walk On By10. Flume - Holdin' On9. Syron – Breaking8. S O H N – The Wheel7. Solange – Losing You6. Caitlin Rose – No One To Call5. Taylor Swift – We Are Never Ever Ever Getting Back Together4. AlunaGeorge – Your Drums, Your Love3. Frank Ocean – Thinkin Bout You2. Jessie Ware – Wildest Moments1. Icona Pop - I Love It
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Sunday, 16 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCIaj-oLi28
Dagbladet - Best Norwegian tracks:
1 Susanne Sundfør - White Foxes2 Sirkus Eliassen - Æ vil bare dans3 Karpe Diem - Toyota'n til Magdi4 Hellbillies - Reise i lag med deg5 Röyksopp & Susanne Sundfør - Running to the Sea6 Lars Vaular & Sondre Lerche - Øynene lukket7 Admiral P - Kallenavn8 Todd Terje - Inspector Norse9 John Olav Nilsen & Gjengen - Eurosport10 Sweden - Hey C'Mon11 Razika - Oslo12 Ida Jenshus - Someone to Love13 Little Hands Of Asphalt - Fitzcaraldo14 Blood Command - High Five For Life15 Donkeyboy - Pull of the Eye16 I Was a King - Hanging On17 Hanne Kolstø - Black Willow18 Turbonegro - I Got a Knife19 Tønes - Slutt og riks20 Vamp - Liten fuggel21 Kaveh - Det er greit22 deLillos - Tapetser meg i gangen før du går23 Anja Elena Viken - Klæsser deg ned24 Michael Paskalev - I Spy25 Vinni - Sommerfuggel i vinterland
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Sunday, 16 December 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
XLR8R's 2012 Top 100 Downloads. You may have to click the tracks' titles to see each one's description/justification and download link. Or go to the bottom of Page Two, from the following, and download all tracks in one zip:http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-top-downloads
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
what the hell, they're free (now that's what I call a list)
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
Downloads are main interest for me, but might do their Readers Poll--closes today, looks like still time though:http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-begins-next-wee
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
Here's their Best New Artists: http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-new-artists
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
Best Labels: http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-labels
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
And--Best Overrated:http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-overrated-relea
― dow, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
Pontone mixtape of albums of the year:http://pontone.pl/tones-of-the-year-2012-50-best-albums-vol-1-50-35/http://pontone.pl/tones-of-the-year-2012-50-best-albums-vol-2-34-18/http://pontone.pl/tones-of-the-year-2012-50-best-albums-vol-3-17-1/
― emil.y, Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
43. eMMplekz IZOD Days (Mordant Music)
^ this one is so classic if you haven't heard it yet emil.y!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
But yeah, lots of good stuff on that list, thanks!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Sunday, 16 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9015-the-top-100-tracks-of-2012/
― Gukbe, Monday, 17 December 2012 07:08 (eleven years ago) link
I only know a few of the p4k songs (so far) but I'm cool with what they've done there.
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 17 December 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
Only crossover with my own tracks list is "There He Go."
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 17 December 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
huh i didnt know ariel pink did a cover of 'baby' (although i did know he 'rediscovered' it or w/e so, not surprised i guess) - ive been in love w/ the orig the last month or so
― johnny crunch, Monday, 17 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland have also covered "Baby" this year; it's "2" on their album.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 17 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
The write-up for Miguel's "Do You" is pretty o_O
― rob, Monday, 17 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
yeah
― Number None, Monday, 17 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
Guardian individual lists here
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Monday, 17 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
bollocks if i'd voted for the royal-t album (subbed out at the last minute) it would've placed, with kieran's #1 vote! (but then if i'd heard vatican shadow before i voted...)
always surprises me that so few UK critics care about school of seven bells. like, they're my token indie pick!
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
As usual there's such a long gap between voting and the votes being posted that I've already changed my mind about half the list.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 17 December 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
this is written by an ilxer right?? http://thecorner.co.nz/2012/12/14/the-corners-2012-year-in-review-50-best-international-singles/
― just sayin, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
!
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
attn lex
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
Slate round table. Jody Rosen's list. I'm happy he remembered Kellie Pickler:
Future, PlutoKellie Pickler, 100 Proof Bruno Mars, Unorthodox JukeboxBob Dylan, TempestMicachu and the Shapes, NeverMelanie Fiona, The MF LifeKa, Grief Pedigree Miguel, Kaleidoscope DreamJB and the Moonshine Band, Beer for BreakfastUsher, Looking 4 MyselfLionel Richie, TuskegeeJeremih, Late Nights with Jeremih fun., Some NightsR. Kelly, Write Me BackJens Lekman, I Know What Love Isn'tFrank Ocean, Channel OrangePrinzhorn Dance School, Clay Class2 Chainz, Based on a T.R.U. StoryKeyshia Cole, Woman to WomanAction Bronson, Blue Chips
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_music_club/features/2012/music_club_2012_the_top_albums_and_songs_of_the_year/music_club_2012_jody_rosen_s_top_albums_and_songs_of_the_year.html
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
nice to see some good late year releases like the Bruno Mars and Keyshia Cole get into a list
― some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
and Lionel Richie!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
is the pfork list messed up
― D-40, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
yup
― call all destroyer, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah. another one that made me rmde was the one for john talabot's "destiny" ('BIG SONGS about BIG TOPICS' etc)
― teledyldonix, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
that corner list is great, obv
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
― just sayin, Monday, December 17, 2012 6:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah stevie kaye is etc.
Great roundup!
― Tim F, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
lol 'the corner' is a different kind of spot in the u.s.
― D-40, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
haha at first I was all "Tim, FINISH THE SENTENCE" and then I realized
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
Good work etc
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
Nice... He's got afrobeats and US rap and r'n'b and Eric Church and k-pop
― curmudgeon, Monday, 17 December 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
scraper
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
I bet "The House That Heaven Built" takes the top spot on P4k's track list.
― monster_xero, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
cool that rich kidz "my life" placed, song made me v happy many times this year
― flopson, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that was cool... plus "louie" and "love sosa"
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it was a little strange that they listed the theme song to the louis c.k. show personally
― some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
oh i see because of the names
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
i just thought it looked funny to refer to the king louie song as "louie" instead of "val venis"
― some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
oh, yes
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
I refer to it as "pig benis"
― she was giving it to two friends ...Aaay! (crüt), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:09
eunuch eclectic signing in. nz charts have been bleaker than usual this year.
how on earth did you stumble across that, though, just sayin?
― etc, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
one of my friends emailed it to me! I think we have some friends in common
― just sayin, Monday, 17 December 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
Did I make that Corner list?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
that p4k blurb about "do you" is horrible
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
srs
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
plus so obv that miggy is really more into hugs and stuntin with the drug talk
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I felt Mr. Blurbwriter was listening to a completely different song to me, or maybe just not listening. There was also that long Spin article (I think?) that ripped on Pussy is Mine because it's supermisogynistic and Miguel obviously just cares about controlling women.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
there was a (positive) review in the Irish Times that described Pussy Is Mine as "loverman bragging". I despair
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
once again, the key to understanding "Pussy Is Mine":
https://twitter.com/venusxGG/status/265880111960711169
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
i love "pussy is mine" because it's so vulnerable and is miggy being insecure in a genre that prizes surefooted machismo
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah exactly.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
honestly one of my favourite songs on the record
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, December 17, 2012 6:23 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
Great song, but the reason I cannot feel comfortable playing the album at work.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
The big clue is he singing it over the barest of guitar accompaniment. It's weird that Nick Drake-loving indie dudes don't immediately want to make the allusion.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
maybe after they're done working out all the striking parallels with Christopher Owens, formerly of Girls
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/thumblarge_173/118651963590Ane2.jpg
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
Christopher Owens, formerly of Girls, now a cat
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
which explains his feline grace and the way his songs stick their claws into your heart
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
pussy is unimpressed xxp
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
lol i didn't even realize this is the current issue of Fader
http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/F83_COVER_620.jpg
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
would be more effective if Owens photo were on the other side so Miguel can be all "tell me that the pussy is over there."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
they're good at shit/not shit juxtapositions but that may be the most dramatic to date
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
"the fader: we know some cool black people, and the worst white people"
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:58 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link
I got a light skinned friend looks like Michael Jackson, etc
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:02 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't even realize that pickler had an album out this year!
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
hey i have an article in that issue of the fader, pick it up
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link
nah i think the drugs talk is serious - it's not in a stuntin way at all, it's about how doing drugs w/someone can be really intimate and nice. drugs as homely and sorta romantic rather than cool or glamorous. that feels like a novel angle in a great way.
otoh this has become a massive cliché this year - i'm not even sure whether it was ever true but this narrative has been ongoing for bloody ages now and it's totally cringe to see indie audiences fetishising awkwardness and insecurity as somehow more "real", and acting like r&b had hitherto been a completely one-dimensional genre, as if it wasn't RIVEN with uncertainty and complexity before our current crop of sad reverby dudes came along.
i mean, that is the appeal of "pussy is mine" specifically, yeah, but it's more about how unguarded it is - from the sentiments expressed to also the vulgarity of the language that miguel avoids elsewhere to the way he tries to play it off as a joke at the end (i don't mind that it's obv staged).
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
Pitchfork - Top 100 trackshttp://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9015-the-top-100-tracks-of-2012/
Just posting the top 50:
1. Grimes - Oblivion2. Frank Ocean - Pyramids3. Usher - Climax4. Kendrick Lamar - Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe5. Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built6. Bat for Lashes - Laura7. Tame Impala - Feels Like We Only Go Backwards8. Beach House - Myth9. Fiona Apple - Werewolf10. Jai Paul - Jasmine11. Frank Ocean - Thinkin About You12. Miguel - Adorn13. Chromatics - Kill For Love14. M.I.A. - Bad Girls15. Andy Stott - Numb16. Solange - Losing You17. Chairlift - I Belong In Your Arms18. Nicki Minaj - Beez in the Trap [ft. 2 Chainz]19. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Only In My Dreams20. Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)21. Jessie Ware - Wildest Moments22. Death Grips - I've Seen Footage23. Dirty Projectors - Dance For You24. Chief Keef - I Don't Like [ft. Lil Reese]25. Grimes - Genesis26. TNGHT - Higher Ground27. Grizzly Bear - Yet Again28. Cat Power - Nothin But Time29. Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe30. Kanye West - Mercy [ft. Big Sean, Pusha T and 2 Chainz]31. Frank Ocean - Bad Religion32. Sky Ferreira - Everything Is Embarrassing33. Danny Brown - Grown Up34. Cloud Nothings - Stay Useless35. Fiona Apple - Every Single Night36. Todd Terje - Inspector Norse37. Killer Mike - Reagan38. Hot Chip - ''Flutes''39. Schoolboy Q - Hands On The Wheel [ft. A$AP Rocky]40. The Men - Open Your Heart41. El-P - The Full Retard42. Gunplay - Jump Out43. Dum Dum Girls - Lord Knows44. AlunaGeorge - You Know You Like It45. Spiritualized - Hey Jane46. Ty Segall Band - I Bought My Eyes47. Grizzly Bear - Sleeping Ute48. Burial/Four Tet - Nova49. Future - Turn On The Lights50. Icona Pop - I Love It
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
4. Kendrick Lamar - Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe9. Fiona Apple - Werewolf15. Andy Stott - Numb18. Nicki Minaj - Beez in the Trap [ft. 2 Chainz]
^^completely bizarre choices off albums i love
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
Resident Advisor - Top 50 tracks of 2012http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1705
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link
5 of the RA top 10 tally with my own favourite dance trax this year
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I concur with the Fiona on the list, only direct overlap (on the last 50) was w death grips
Did people really rate "Bad Girls" that much?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
I didn't expect much of what i've bought this year to place in the RA poll but didn't expect it to be quite so divergent
― coal, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
"Those strings. It was impossible to escape those strings in 2012."
This is the line that makes sense of the Andres record for me. I used to be part of the clubbing world and now I'm not so I can't get a handle on why that record is #1 from hearing it at my computer but I can when I imagine it as a feature of so many nights out. I love how the dance press's EOTY lists address a specific subculture where this is ubiquitous as Call Me Maybe is for everyone else.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, but danceworld is so fragmented that it was completely possible to go clubbing fairly frequently throughout the year and not hear it if you weren't going to house nights.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah but RA is predominantly centred around a certain type of European house and techno night, although it's covered more post-dubstep in recent years, there's still a sense that it's addressing a particular defined community.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
I mean I'm sure I'd have heard the Andres record if I'd been proper clubbing more than twice this year. It could well have been as ubiquitous as a Mouth To Mouth or a Rej for all I know.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
4. Kendrick Lamar - Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe
Really? This seems like the most portable, single-y track from the Kendrick album. Not a bizarre choice in a consensus vote, imo.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
was gonna say itt that i was happy at so few tracks lists this year having "Swimming Pools" on it, as a hit single from an acclaimed album it's really kind of shit.
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
i just really fucking hate "bitch don't kill my vibe"
always loved "swimming pools", though not necessarily as a single
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
one would think tracks lists are the ideal places to recognise "cartoon & cereal"
two months ago I skipped it, now I play it all the time.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
I've seen Backseat Freestyle popping up in a few lists but it's not really an album with proper singles on it. So yeah Cartoon & Cereal or even The Recipe would be fine but I get the feeling people just want to throw out a vaguely pointless shout to the album.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
lex honestly you've stated your case about "vibe" and i think now you can just let that song be mentioned without making a big deal about it every. fucking. time.
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:34 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not going to be lectured about posting habits by anyone who pulled the shit you did in the shanell thread
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
Tim F's write-up for 'Turn On The Lights' on th pfk countdown is great! This bit in particular "His lyrics simultaneously raised and lowered the bar for spur of the moment profundity as his hook-laden yet tone-deaf emphysemic mutterings nestled into the cracks between rap and R&B, while Auto-Tune choruses left him sounding like gloriously damaged goods." kinda nails a big part of why I love Future so much.
― pandemic, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
ha i barely posted in the shanell thread, and only obnoxiously half the time, and then left it alone compared to the several people openly trolling it
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah i loved that write up
― just sayin, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
noz on keef is fire also
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Asking here cuz somebody should know: will there even be a Best Muscle Writing 2012 ?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
here it is, ray:
https://www.christianwritersguild.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/writing-muscle-slider1.jpg
comparing "I Don't Like" to "The Message" was a little over the top, i thought
reassuring that PF can still be relied on to say 'Call Me Maybe was nice, yes, but Grizzly Bear definitely wrote a better song this year'
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
i just really fucking hate "bitch don't kill my vibe" --lex pretend
--lex pretend
Go on.
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
i'm with lex here, might be my least favorite track on the record
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
My only point upthread was that, even if you're not fond of it, would you concede that it's probably the most obvious track on the album to be a consensus favorite?
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say "The Art of Peer Pressure" or "Poetic Justice."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
no! none of those! all of those are deep cuts and sound like them. either "swimming pools" or "the recipe" as the singles, "cartoon & cereal" as a much-hyped (with good reason) stand-alone non-album cut, or possibly "money trees" as a track that seems to encapsulate a lot of the album's themes
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
would you concede that it's probably the most obvious track on the album to be a consensus favorite
I do actually like it, but I don't see how this is true at all really, other than it appears early on in the album.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
For a tracks poll, the Pitchfork list looks awfully like a singles list, to be expected I guess near the top but I think the entire top 30 are singles or lead off downloads from the record.
― Mitchell Stirling, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Oh good! No consensus then
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 13:20 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
maybe, but after a year of endless surrounding grumbling and murmuring and whatnot about the track it was effective just this once to bang a fist on the table with a historical juxtaposition and clear the fug for a sec. besides it wasnt "this is as good as" or "the 2012 version of", he used the comparison (and well i thought)
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
did anyone mention the jacob korn record yet? have come back to it a few times over the course of the year. #faintpraise.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
meant that for the dance thread actually, but it's here forever now. i'll let history judge me.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
I spoke to Tony Blair and he said he preferred the Petar Dundov album.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
the ruth saxelby bit for alunageorge is quite good just for placing them in about the right critical spot ("1980s UK electro pop duos, from Yazoo to Eurythmics") where it's been so easy to tip too far either side of the dance/r&b question. felt like a sensible clarification for me anyway.
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
"this isn't the time for soundbytes. but today i truly feel the hand of house on my shoulder." xpost sorry carry on
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I've heard of Jacob Korn without ever having bothered to look into him but having realised he had a hand in Philipp Dolphia I'm going to check him out immediately.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
the "hook so pop it hurts" is a bit "uhhhh really?" though
liked katherine st asaph on angel haze a lot
in general the p4k lists crystallises this sense across most EOY lists i've seen that it's even more about ring-fencing and aesthetic branding than ever this year. on a related note, i was really happy to see rich juzwiak pick keyshia cole for this:
http://www.thefader.com/2012/12/17/20-musicians-tastemakers-and-other-weirdos-pick-their-favorite-music-of-2012/
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
If I had to listen to only one song from 2012 for the rest of my life, it would be the second single from Keyshia Cole’s Woman to Woman album, “Trust and Believe.” No commercial track I’ve heard this year understands where R&B is and was quite as well. Seething with sound, its snapped beats reverberate into hisses, its snare fills throw tantrums while Cole sings furiously, balancing heartbreak and righteous indignation. This should be the ballad that defines the 31-year-old’s career.
Four tracks in, “Trust and Believe” is Woman’s showstopper. It’s almost bizarre, then, how consistently entertaining the album goes on to be. Its backbone is old-school hip-hop soul, the kind of minimal, breakbeat-based R&B that Mary J. Blige (without whom Keyshia would not be possible) used to sing over. Cole’s endless supply of hooks keep midtempo from sounding mundane, but it is the album’s eventual sense of adventure that makes its 15 tracks fly by. Darkchild’s “Stubborn,” (which Cole pronounces “stub-bron,” lest you think she’s become entirely refined by Album No. 5) bridges the gap from trap to house more convincingly than even “Mercy.” “Hey Sexy” is to Mtume’s “Juicy Fruit” what Miguel’s “Adorn” is to Gregory Abbott’s “Shake You Down” (Cole previously sampled “Fruit” in “Let It Go,” here she just invokes its spirit in a more sophisticated tribute). She samples “Theme from Shaft,” duets with Ashanti on the title track (not a remake of the Shirley Brown Stax classic) and enters the canon of great R&B first lines on the airily modern “Forever”: I’m not easily impressed, but you got me fucked up.
The story of R&B’s phenomenal year centers on the heady, atmospheric turn it has taken and the men who have popularized it. Woman to Woman acknowledges the sound of Frank Ocean, The Weeknd and Miguel, but it offers a much wider palate—there’s a sense of grounded soul tradition here guided by Cole’s still-feral pipes. Woman to Woman is the alternative to the alternative, a commercial R&B record delivered with so little hype, it was easy to miss. It’s destined to be an underrated gem, just like they used to make.
Fuckin Rich will send me scurrying back to the Cole.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
i like that grimes's "oblivion" is getting a lot of praise now, not only b/c it is the only track on the album that i ever felt compelled to revisit much but also b/c it seemed like hardly anyone ever mentioned it in reviews of the album (even tho the music video was out and everything)
― teledyldonix, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
if hearing keyshia cole as anything more than passable/tedious and schlocky is to be the real r&b rubicon then ima hand in my gun & badge right now
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
Or 1990s UK electro pop groups like Sneaker Pimps.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
well, i liked them too
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
Sneaker Pimps implies a level of dead-eyed monitor lizardity that I'd be loath to apply to AlunaGeorge. Morcheeba, maybe.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I thought "Nightmusic" was gonna be the runaway song from Visions, but I don't think the album version (or video) storms the keep the way it does in a live setting
― you, your max is on fire (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
XLR8R's Best of 2012: Tracks #25-#1http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-tracks-part-two
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
The RA #1 track by Andres reminds me of Roule/Cryadamoure output circa 1998. So, I quite like it.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
(Crydamoure, even)
― r|t|c, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:17 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
word. and I realize she's not as bad about it as she used to be, but I can't take the way she sings.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
i would probably have been with you before i heard her latest - when i listened it was so refreshing both because she'd unexpectedly improved and because only hearing that emo MJB style done so sincerely and unashamedly did you realise just how far out of the critical discourse it's got
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
I've got Elle Varner for that (although not really emo).
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah elle varner is more...theatre kid? there's something kinda cutesy about her even on the heartbreakers, you don't feel like she's ever on the edge of a meltdown, which is where keyshia kinda lives.
there's melanie fiona, though i think her album is actually better when she's playful rather than overwrought, apart from "4am" obv. keyshia's entire thing is to be overwrought and it's whether she can sweep you along or not. she rarely did, until this album.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
I couldn't really get into the Melanie Fiona album too much faux-Motown retread I'm too bored to even finish this sen-
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
"4AM" is dope and "6AM" is cute on some I see what you did there tho.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
this is such a "c'mon son" moment smh
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
Tiny Mix Tapes albums list for all your vaporwave needs:http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/2012-favorite-50-albums-of-2012
1. Scott Walker - Bish Bosch2. Dean Blunt & Inga Copeland - Black is Beautiful3. Swans - The Seer4. Mount Eerie - Clear Moon / Ocean Roar5. Laurel Halo - Quarantine6. Macintosh Plus - Floral Shoppe7. Actress - R.I.P.8. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems9. YYU - TIMETIMETIME&TIME10. Dean Blunt - The Narcissist II11. Grimes - Visions12. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange13. Holly Herndon - Movement14. BEBETUNE$ - inhale c-4 $$$$$15. DJ Rashad - TEKLIFE Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi16. Death Grips - The Money Store17. Daughn Gibson - All Hell18. The Caretaker - Patience (after Sebald)19. Traxman - Da Mind of Traxman20. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.D. city21. Aaron Dilloway - Modern Jester22. Demdike Stare - Elemental23. Angel Olsen - Half Way Home24. Graham Lambkin - Amateur Doubles25. Mediafired - The Pathway Through Whatever26. Sun Araw/M. Geddes Gengras/The Congos - FRKWYS Vol. 9: Icon Give Thank27. White Suns - Sinews28. Tim Hecker / Daniel Lopatin - Instrumental Tourist29. 情報デスクVIRTUAL - 札幌コンテンポラリー30. Dolphins Into The Future - Canto Arquipélago31. Jason Lescalleet - Songs About Nothing32. Motion Sickness of Time Travel - Motion Sickness of Time Travel33. Farrah Abraham - My Teenage Dream Ended34. Thee Oh Sees - Putrifiers II35. Burial - Kindred EP36. The Men - Open Your Heart37. Tame Impala - Lonerism38. Ian Martin - Mechanical Rain39. Ahnnu - Pro Habitat40. Lil B - White Flame41. Heat Wave - Fukd In Tha Game42. Death Grapes - No Love Deep Web43. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music44. Apple, Fiona - The Idler Wheel is Wiser...45. Arca - Stretch 246. Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind47. Internet Club - Vanishing Vision48. Belbury Poly - The Belbury Tales49. Raime - Quarter Turns Over a Living Line50. Mykki Blanco - Cosmic Angel: The Illuminati Prince/ss
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Glad to see Mount Eerie that high.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
"Grimes" next to "Frank Ocean" on all these lists never fails to make me think of Frank Grimes
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
DEATH GRAPES
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:31 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
i can't disagree
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
[...] a rear-guard action, a fight to preserve a space for R&B rather than demand or even anticipate anything of it. [...]
― Tim F, Sunday, 26 December 2010 03:50 (1 year ago) Bookmark
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
my most-delayed eoy chore is giving The MF Life one more front-to-back listen to honestly assess whether i'm being too kind to it
― some dude, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
I really like both the Lando Kal and Tom Demac tracks from the XLR8R poll, but in whose warped mind are they topped by that George Fitzgerald schlock? The RA poll this year seemed significantly more conservative than previous years. Pretty much strictly house for the top 10 and otherwise just safe bets for a few token non-house genres.
― viborg, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
tbh i am kinda glad that RA didn't feel the need to make token non-dance gestures in their eoy lists this year, and i'm not seeing pachanga boys or anthony naples on any other lists so it's weird to call it conservative. maybe i just like more focused genre lists though?
the juno list is also really good and pretty stylistically similar to the ra list
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
non-house /= non-dance!
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for the tip on the Juno list.
one of the best UK techno records in a generation
Wow, really? I don't listen to that much UK techno specifically, but I'd think that would apply more to Getting Me Down. Maybe that's not technically techno?
― viborg, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
pachanga boys
And yeah by "conservative" I meant leaning heavily towards dad techno.
― viborg, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah, but in the past ra hasn't exactly included much outside of the techno/house/post-dubstep world, but they would throw in a few more token indie picks than they did this year
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
idk half of the ra list hasn't really shown up elsewhere, dad techno or no
Christianity Today - Top Albums of 2012http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/december-web-only/2012-ct-music-awards.html?
1. Phil Madeira (et al.), Mercyland: Hymns for the Rest of Us (Tone Tree Music)2. Bonnie Raitt, Slipstream (Redwing Records)3. Punch Brothers, Who's Feeling Young Now?(Nonesuch)4. Bruce Springsteen, Wrecking Ball(Columbia)5. Andrew Peterson, Light for the Lost Boy (Centricity Music)6. Anais Mitchell, Young Man in America (Thirty Tigers)7. Carolina Chocolate Drops, Leaving Eden(Nonesuch)8. Bob Dylan, Tempest (Columbia)9. Andrew Osenga, Leonard the Lonely Astronaut(101 Distribution)10. Julie Lee, Julie Lee & the Baby-Daddies (Still House Road Music)11. Rosie Thomas, With Love (101 Distribution)12. Lecrae, Gravity (Reach Records)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
So,they're broad-minded about some/most of those Tempest lyrics?
― dow, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
or Tempestlyrics even?
― dow, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
mercy on the near-sighted typists
I'm glad TRAXMAN and Rashad are appearing on these lists, but Young Smoke isn't getting a lot of love and that was my favourite footwork LP of the year, certainly better than Traxman's effort.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of which:
http://www.spin.com/articles/best-dance-electronic-EDM-albums-2012
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
fairly sure only someone who believes they know what "dad-techno" is would use the term "dad-techno"
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
adult contechnorary
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link
It's true, I'm actually a big fan of dad techno. But still.
― viborg, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
What's some good dad techno?
― dow, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwqZ48XZoNg
― rooster in my raggett (crüt), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/official_my_dad_loves_techno_trucker_hat-p148086321445607244en7ly_216.jpg
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
was casually trying to pick up this thread and passed by this tim f post. totally OTM. 'rutti' is stunning and the only track i can listen from slowdive nowadays - even tho i don't really need to.
(in a way, labradford kinda did that sometimes. albeit in a less "underwater romance" way)
― rusty_allen, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
Complex's top 50 albums:
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/12/2012-year-in-review-the-50-best-albums-of-2012/
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
well, d-40 throwing shade at spin's list is FINALLY RICH
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
though all kidding aside, Ka in the top 10 is a dope move
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 05:06 (eleven years ago) link
why is there no love for taylor swift?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 07:06 (eleven years ago) link
didn't seem like this one got as much enthusiasm as in the past? her last album hit #26 on Pazz & Jop, that's prob as high as she'll get anytime soon
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 07:09 (eleven years ago) link
also "i knew you were trouble" is really only the second single to get a major push and it came out after most YE list deadlines
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link
I thought WANEGBT would place in a few lists considering it was released around the third quarter of 2012
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 07:24 (eleven years ago) link
"You Belong With Me" was #10 on P&J, again I don't see the new one getting that kind of traction.
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
It came out before the album as a standalone single
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link
RA didn't feel the need to make token non-dance gestures in their eoy lists this year
They voted for Jeremih and fucking Jai Paul, which is surely this year's most bewildering critical pick.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
Like there's the merest whiff of greatness somewhere in 'Jasmine' but unless there's a version out there that doesn't sound like a tossed off demo I don't really get it.
I finally listened to the Andres track last night and it's pretty great, it's nothing revolutionary but I can see perfectly well how those strings would sound amazing at the right point in a set.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
been listening to pitchfork track picks and came across lotus plaza's monolith. has indie declined this low or what...
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link
Jai Paul, which is surely this year's most bewildering critical pick.
Yup
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
I think that record is pretty great actually. Though it's just Jasmine, there isn't really anything else to get excited about.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
Going through the tracks I haven't heard on the RA list has been a bit hit and miss so far but that Factory Floor remix is massive.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Agreed
― Tim F, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
the ra list is very ineffectual as a case for the year in music.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
and i don't think it's been a bad year for house/techno of the ra variety.
Like that Barnt track is a bit of serviceable if unexciting dancefloor filler but I'm not sure why anyone would vote it one of the tracks of the year or how it could end up so high in any list.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:31 (eleven years ago) link
that track is HUGE. i agree with you, it sounds v unexciting to the laptop listener, but i think it's one of those "symbol" records a bit, plus i reckon at very loud volumes it takes on a new life.
all the big djs apparently played it incessantly all year. i only know this based on being in berlin in the summer. to me it sounds like a m_nus record from a few years back or something.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
gah really want to read these spin lists but the website just doesn't work on my firefox. i click next but nothing happens
― tpp, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:52 (eleven years ago) link
I was listening to it pretty loudly on decent headphones but it didn't do much for me, maybe it does work in a club setting but it also feels like you could slot it into almost any kind of set which explains why it's so big.
http://www.timeout.com/london/feature/3477/the-20-best-club-songs-of-2012
^^^ Kinda schizophrenic Time Out Clubbing list, chiefly notable because one of these lists has finally acknowledged that 'Oliver Twist' a) exists and b) is one of the best tracks of the year.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:53 (eleven years ago) link
otm re: oliver twist
― tpp, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.splicetoday.com/music/the-2012-splice-today-albums-poll
WE IN THIS BREH
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 12:43 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, December 19, 2012 4:21 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
welllll they released like handful of other songs as well. that's not really my point.
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
re: oliver twist, i saw it on the guardian top 40 tracks playlist but yeah it hasnt shown up in enough places
― just sayin, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:24 (eleven years ago) link
Xp you said it came out too late for EOY lists but it obv didn't
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.flavorwire.com/357103/stereotyping-you-by-your-favorite-album-of-2012
dozens of swings, a few hits, lots of misses
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
he said it was "the second single to get a major push and it came out after most YE list deadlines" so obviously he was talking about it going to radio and getting a video
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
in any event the idea that every critic in the world should've stood up and done their duty the moment TAYSTEP interested the world is lol
don't know how "entered" became "interested" in my brain there ugh
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Rhapsody Top 50 Albums (Selection by committee, not really a poll; I had some input for this, though not a lot):
50) Motion Sickness of Time Travel, Motion Sickness of Time Travel49) Santigold, Master of My Make-Believe48) Jason Aldean, Night Train47) Samuel Yirga, Guzo46) TobyMac, Eye on It45) Ke$ha, Warrior44) Spoek Mathambo, Father Creeper43) Prince Royce, Phase II42) Henry Threadgill, Tomorrow Sunny / The Revelry, Spp41) Pink, The Truth About Love40) Alan Jackson, 30 Miles West39) Lukid, Lonely at the Top38) The Very Best, MTMTMK37) Gary Clark Jr., Blak & Blu36) Ana Tijoux, La Bala35) Treponem Pal, Survival Sounds34) Ellie Goulding, Halcyon33) Neil Young & Crazy Horse, Psychedelic Pill32) Dev, The Night the Sun Came Up31) Laurie Spiegel, The Expanding Universe30) Nicki Minaj, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded29) Cloud Nothings, Attack on Memory28) Grizzly Bear, Shields27) Elle Varner, Perfectly Imperfect26) Kellie Pickler, 100 Proof25) Matthew Dear, Beams24) METZ, METZ23) Nas, Life Is Good22) Alt-J, An Awesome Wave21) Blackberry Smoke, The Whippoorwill20) Robert Glasper, Black Radio19) Dr. John, Locked Down18) Beach House, Bloom17) El-P, Cancer 4 Cure16) Dwight Yoakam, 3 Pears15) Alabama Shakes, Boys and Girls14) The Lumineers, The Lumineers13) John Talabot, Fin12) Jack White, Blunderbuss11) Swans, The Seer10) Baroness, Yellow & Green9) Killer Mike, R.A.P. Music8) Grimes, Visions7) Daphni, Jiaolong6) Fiona Apple, The Idler Wheel...5) Daughn Gibson, All Hell4) Miguel, Kaleidoscope Dream3) Kendrick Lamar, good kid, m.A.A.d city2) Japandroids, Celebration Rock1) Frank Ocean, Channel Orange
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
Here's that link:
http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/post/top-50-albums-of-2012
Rhapsody Top 50 singles (same deal -- not a poll per se', and I had some minor input.)
http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/post/top-50-singles-of-2012
50) Skrillex, "Bangarang"49) Scissor Sisters, "Let's Have a Kiki"48) TobyMac, "Me Without You"47) Bruce Springsteen, "We Take Care of Our Own"46) Michel Teló, "Ai Se Eu Te Pego"45) Justin Bieber, "Boyfriend"44) King Tuff, "Keep on Movin'"43) Miranda Lambert, "Fastest Girl in Town"42) Plan B, "Ill Manors"41) Alt-J, "Something Good"40) El-P, "The Full Retard"39) Eric Church, "Springsteen"38) Daphni, "Ye Ye"37) Wisin y Yandel ft. T-Pain & Chris Brown, "Algo Me Gusta De Ti"36) Meek Mill, "Amen"35) Elle Varner, "Refill"34) METZ, "Headache"33) Swans, "The Seer"32) M.I.A., "Bad Girls"31) 2 Chainz, "Birthday Song"30) Carrie Underwood, "Blown Away"29) Of Monsters and Men, "Little Talks"28) fun., "Some Nights"27) Juicy J, "Bandz a Make Her Dance"26) Alex Clare, "Too Close"25) Baroness, "Take My Bones Away"24) Rush, "Headlong Flight"23) Rihanna, "Diamonds"22) Carly Rae Jepsen, "Call Me Maybe"21) The Lumineers, "Ho Hey"20) Psy, "Gangnam Style"19) Phillip Phillips, "Home"18) Little Big Town, "Pontoon"17) Grimes, "Genesis"16) Mumford & Sons, "I Will Wait"15) Solange, "Losing You"14) Fiona Apple, "Every Single Night"13) Nas, "Daughters"12) Usher, "Climax"11) Bat for Lashes, "Laura"10) Kanye West, "Mercy"9) Gotye, "Somebody That I Used to Know"8) Taylor Swift, "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together"7) Nicki Minaj ft. 2 Chainz, "Beez in the Trap"6) Dev, "In My Trunk"5) Kendrick Lamar, "Swimming Pools (Drank)"4) Miguel, "Adorn"3) ZZ Top, "I Gotsa Get Paid"2) Frank Ocean, "Thinkin' Bout You"1) Alabama Shakes, "Hold On"
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
fun list, it was a good year for mainstream female vocal pop albums and it's nice to see those Dev and Pink and Ellie Goulding albums all get their due on one list (xp)
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
Critics need to wait til a song has a video to be alerted to it? Hardly being very on it.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
we're talking about a song having significant traction on year-end lists. the only time Swift had a song do well on critics' lists was when it was a huge hit for months and months throughout the year.
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
yeah wtf are you even talking about
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
can't believe critics didn't all magically rally behind some album track, why are they so bad at job
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
HARDLY BEING VERY ON IT
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
Making a list, checking it twice Gonna find out if you been naughty or nice
http://fastnbulbous.com/lucky-12/
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Rhapsody genre lists here (Indie, Electronic, Latin, Rock, Christian, Pop, Classical, Country, R&B, Jazz, Hip-Hop, World, Metal Albums -- the last of which is my own list; if you poke around on the site you can find singles lists for a few of those genres, too.)
http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/post/rhapsodys-best-of-2012
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
EOY lists always contain several album tracks, and in any case this WASN'T an album track
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
is that even gonna be the highest ranked TS track on a Swift-friendly place like the ilx poll? why are we talking about this one song like it means anything?
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
jesus
the point is that on an album like red where most people have a different favorite song, it's usually important if there's a track for people to rally around (i.e. "swimming pools" or maybe even "pyramids"). taylor dropped one big single that most people agree isn't her best work & then a handful of "digital singles" before the album came out. this is a very simple thing.
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
no, dubswift shall not be denied
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
lex consistently has the most misguided, fractured views on how the world actually works
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
not for lack of competition, too!
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
DIDNT EVERYONE KEEP UP WITH SINGLES JUKEBOX THIS YEAR?!?!?!?! HOW DARE CRITICS DENY INVY DA TRUTH
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
talking about taylor swift sincerely on the internet = eternal lol
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
the taylor swift thread has some of the creepiest ILX posts of all time outside of the "i made her my little meatball sub" guy
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Could we not do this?
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
Who wants a fight?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Spin's top 10 music books of 2012: http://www.spin.com/articles/best-music-books-2012?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter
cool to see Natalie Hopkinson's Go-Go book on there, haven't read it yet, but i was on a panel w/ her last year where she read excerpts of it and it was fascinating stuff
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
shame they missed David Byrne's "How Music Works", whether you like Byrne or Talking Heads or not, it's a really pleasurable read.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
not a treble clef in sight either.
haven't read it but the reviews were very mixed on that, quotes i saw made me pretty disinterested (xp)
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:17 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark
fall back, dwight yorke
Re this: is it fair to think of Riff Raff as part of, or even the centre of, 'Weird Twitter'?
http://i.imgur.com/WfI4c.jpg
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Monday, October 22, 2012 12:04 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Nonsense. You just have a limited mind
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
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― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
I've got an all-consuming RiFF RAFF addiction please don't use it against me.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
tay swift threads are pretty run of the mill ilx fav kool aid threads ime, nothing more embarrassing than the avg the-dream thread
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Or do we STILL think it's only OK to talk about pop in an unexcitable serious rock critic dude who only takes serious critical consensus music seriously
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
some dude otm
― crüt, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
haven't read it but the reviews were very mixed on that, quotes i saw made me pretty disinterested (xp)― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:32 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:32 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The one I read (in the Wire) was glowing, and I agree with it. If you're looking for a book about composition and harmony, look elsewhere. But Byrne's whole schtick is that setting, performance, recording media and pretty much all external factors are as important in the grander scheme of things as that romantic notion of a "bolt-from-the-blue" in the mind of the songwriter or composer. It's something Byrne (and especially Eno) have been talking about at length for years and years: creativity thrives on restriction, but it works both as a manifesto, a chocolate box of interesting factoids and a loose autobiography (although you really don't have to be a TH stan to enjoy it).
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
you guys broke lex
― Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
it was like that when i found it
― some dude, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
let's talk about lex
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Has riff raff made any lists?
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for Birth of an Icon in the Crack list. Didn't make it in.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Bird On A Wire has turned up on a few
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
The Liminal - Albums of the Yearhttp://www.theliminal.co.uk/2012/12/the-liminal-albums-of-the-year-2012/
1. Pelt – Effigy (MIE)2. Shackleton – Music for the Quiet Hour / Drawbar Organ (Woe To The Sceptic Heart)3. Actress – R.I.P. (Honest Jons)4. Hallock Hill – A Hem of Evening (MIE)5. Raime – Quarter Turns Over A Living Line (Blackest Ever Black)6. Lee Gamble – Dutch Tvashar Plumes (PAN)7. Richard Skelton – Verse of Birds (Corble Stone Press)8. Holly Herndon – Movements (RVNG Intl)9. Sidsel Endresen / Stian Westerhus – Didymoi Dreams (Rune Grammofon)10. Oren Ambarchi – Audience of One (Touch)11. Simon Scott – Below Sea Level (12K) (interview with Simon Scott)12. Hildur Guðnadóttir – Leyfðu Ljósinu (Touch) (Full review)13. Scott Walker – Bish Bosch (4AD) (Full review)14. Duane Pitre – Feel Free (Important)15. Andy Stott – Luxury Problems (Modern Love)16. High Aura’d – Sanguine Futures (Bathetic Records)17. The Swifter – The Swifter (The Wormhole) (Full review)18. Mark Fell – Sentielle Objectif Actualité (Editions Mego)19. Richard Youngs – Amaranthine (MIE Music)20. Ekkehard Ehlers – Adikia (Staubgold Digital)21. Mt Eerie – Clear Moon (P.W. Elverum & Sun)22. Stian Westerhus – The Matriarch And The Wrong Kind Of Flowers (Rune Grammofon)23. The Puddle – Secret Holiday & Victory Blues (Fish Ride Records)24. Motion Sickness of Time Travel – Motion Sickness of Time Travel (Editions Mego)25. Loscil – Sketches from New Brighton (Kranky)26. Jacques Brodier – ‘Filtre De Réalité’ (Penultimate Press)27. Jim O’Rourke – Old News Series (Old News)28. Evan Parker Electroacoustic Ensemble – Hasselt (Psi Recordings)29. Oberman Knocks – Beatcroff Slabs (Aperture)30. Gunn-Trusinski Duo – Ocean Parkway (Three Lobed)31. Vindicatrix – Mengamuk (Mordant Music)32. Andrew Bird – Hands of Glory (Mom & Pop)33. Talvihorros / Damian Valles – Monuments And Ruis (Textura)34. Various Artists – Night Music: Voice in the Leaves (Louth Contemporary Music)35. Panopticon – Kentucky (Pagan Flames) (Minimal review)36. Jakob Ullmann – Fremde Zeit Addendum (Edition RZ)37. Lower Dens – Nootropics (Ribbon)38. Four Tet – Pink (Text Records)39. Darling Farah – Body (Civil Music)40. Helm – Impossible Symmetry (PAN) (Full review)41. Fire! with Oren Ambarchi – In The Mouth A Hand (Rune Grammofon)42. Joe McPhee/Eli Keszler – Ithaca (8MM) (Minimal review)43. Wadada Leo Smith – Ten Freedom Summers (Cuneiform)44. The Clean – Oddities (Five Four-0)45. Carmina Quartet – Bartok String Quartets 1 and 2 (Solo Musica)46. Traxman – Da Mind Of Traxman (Planet Mu)47. Ash Borer – Cold of Ages (Profound Lore Records)48. Trapist – The Golden Years (Staubgold)49. Matt Elliott – The Broken Man (Ici d’ailleurs)50. John Maus – A Collection of Rarities and Previously Unreleased Material (Ribbon Music)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
Bit odd seeing a couple of venerable Flying Nun acts show up there among some of the more leftfield stuff
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
Oren Ambarchi wasn't really on my radar before (though the name was vaguely familiar), but I've enjoyed some of what I've heard thanks to ILM nominations lists, especially material from Audience of One.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
the instrumental stuff anyway
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Pye Corner Audio/Holly Herndon/Goat/Diiv/Beak> are solid but others do similar better imo"
like what?
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
pan records have had a great year :) have been meaning to start a pan records s/d for a while.
Shame Matthew Bourne hasn't made any lists so far, Montauk Variations is a beautiful beautiful record probably my favourite of the year. Stewart Lee chose it as his record of the year, that's the only place I've seen it.
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
Steve!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
Heatsick Steve (oh, lol)? I finally gave Deviation a proper listen this weekend; really enjoyed it, it's soo *Steve*, which sounds kind of trite, but what I mean is (we went to the same school) he's always done a good job of walking the line between super serious and super fun and all the while doing it with style.
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Is the Sensate Focus/Heatsick remix thing worth tracking down?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
It's up on the PAN soundcloud page:https://soundcloud.com/pan_recs
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
everybody knows steve
― epic album: the pluto (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
xp ooh didn't think of looking there, thanks!
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
I wanted to like that Pelt album more than I ended up doing
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
Anyways, I think the fact that "Point That Thing Somewhere Else" exists means that outre psych/drone fans will always have time for the Clean
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm. Wonder what Lee Gamble's favourite joke was?
― Terabytes of FLACS of screaming (Call the Cops), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
Gotta be something by Michael Mayer, although most of that Kompakt stuff sounds more like house to me. I should properly said the RA list was dominated by "dad house" but dad techno had more of a ring to it. Like the man say, nobody listens to techno.
― viborg, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Actually there's something a little perverse about the phrase "dad house" but that's probably just me.
FWIW, acclaimedmusic.net, in their most recent metapoll of 68 published critic polls (so far, with idiosyncratic weighting), available only to registered members ATM, scores these as the top 20 polled albums of the year:
1. Frank Ocean 2. Tame Impala 3. Grimes 4. Grizzly Bear 5. Kendrick Lamar 6. The XX 7. alt-J 8. Chromatics 9. Jack White 10. Beach House 11. Swans 12. Dirty Projectors 13. Django Django 14. Cat Power 15. Fiona Apple 16. Sharon Van Etten 17. Japandroids 18. Flying Lotus 19. Jessie Ware 20. Alabama Shakes
Grimes and Django Django are beloved in the UK, less so elsewhere. Fiona Apple, Japandroids and Swans are North American critic fare. The XX and Dirty Projectors won high rankings mostly in the non-Anglophone world.
― Chinchilla! Chinchilla! Chinchilla! (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
surprised at cat power doing so well, most of the reviews i skimmed for that seemed to be saying it was just so-so
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Always weird to me when a band like Tame Impala suddenly gets a ton of praise for a second album that doesn't sound too different from the first. Did critics come late to the debut? Was this one promoted more?
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
i would guess it's mostly critics coming late to the debut and catching up in time for the second
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
I remember people being all over the first Tame Impala. I remember being surprised how quickly they caught on, their first U.S. tour sold out everywhere, etc. Though the response may have been a bit too late for the polls on the first one.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
Rock-A-Rolla Top 50 Albums of 2012
01 Neurosis - Honor Found In Decay02 Goat - World Music03 Om - Advaitic Songs04 Earth - Angels Of Darkness, Demons Of Light II05 Baroness - Yellow & Green06 Swans - The Seer07 Melvins Lite - Freak Puke08 Old Man Gloom - No09 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner10 Amenra - Mass V11 GY!BE - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!12 Converge - All We Love We Leave13 The Mars Volta - Noctourniquet14 Ey Vind Kang - The Narrow Garden15 Eagle twin - The Feather Tipped The Serpent's Scale16 Scott Walker - Bish Bosch17 Mono - For My Parents18 Torche - Harmonicraft19 Dysrhythmia - Test Of Submission20 Liars - WIXIW21 Black Bananas - Rad Times Express IV22 Hexvessel - No Holier Temple23 Ufomammut - Oro: Opus Primum & Alter24 Witch Mountain - Cauldron of the Wild25 Atriarch - Ritual Of Passing26 Alcest - Les Voyages De L'Ame27 Meshuggah - Koloss28 Enabler - All Hail the Void29 Jodis - Black Curtain30 Orange Goblin - A Euology for the Damned31 Switchblade - Switchblade32 Open Ambarchi - Sagittarian Domain33 Menace Ruine - Alight in Ashes34 Killing Joke - MMXII35 Sidsel Endresen & Stian Westerhus - Didymoi Dreams36 Father Murphy - Anyway, Your Children Will Deny It37 Ash Borer - Cold of Ages38 Nazoranai - Nazoranai39 Bong - Mana-Yood-Sushai40 Unsane - Wreck41 Anaal Nathrakh - Vanitas42 Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken - The Death Defying Unicorn43 Saint Vitus - Lillie: F-6544 Royal Thunder - CVI45 Amanda Palmer & The Grand Theft Orchestra - Theatre Is Evil46 JK Flesh - Posthuman47 Lento - Anxiety Despair Languish48 Okkultokrati - Snakereigns49 KTL - V50 Black Shape of Nexus - Negative Black
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
<3 rock-a-rolla
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
14 Ey Vind Kang - The Narrow Garden
"Eyvind Kang" didn't look exotic enough?
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
seriously what's the appeal of this lotus plaza song? it's something I would expect from a local amateur band who just had their first exposure to indie rock.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 20 December 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
wtf why hadn't I heard anything about "climax" before these lists came out?? SUCH AN ANTHEM.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 20 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
not sure if anyone saw this earlier, so re-posting:
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 December 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
yaaay inspector norse: http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/best-2012-tunes-5-1
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 20 December 2012 09:16 (eleven years ago) link
Putting '212' in the top five is just fucking lazy, Mixmag.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ mixmag
can critics at least pretend to pay attention to when a song comes out, your critical faculties don't depend on it actually being culturally ubiquitous or getting a video to kick in
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link
i mean fair enough we all get to some things late (though not usually...a song as big as "212") but the price we pay is that we DON'T THEN GET TO VOTE FOR THEM
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link
wow, having their top songs of the year list spread through 20 pages that AREN'T EVEN FUCKING LINKED TOGETHER is just infuriating
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty sure Mixmag knew about 212 last year.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there are so many EOY lists that i haven't even bothered to look at because of the intolerable clickthru thing
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link
That Rock-A-Rolla list is great. Never read it, is it a site or a mag?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:22 (eleven years ago) link
212 was released in December 2011, so maybe Mixmag's 2011 poll was decided earlier on?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure it came out earlier than that? it was on a lot of end of year lists last year
― just sayin, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link
it feels like it's been around forever
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
dunno, that's what wiki said. i only noticed it being played/talked about offline in about Jan/Feb this year. Always tricky with thigns that come out later in the year.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
Video on Youtube was uploaded in September 2011 and that's how I heard it.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
it was doing the rounds from at least september 2011, which is when the official youtube was uploaded
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
In September 2011, the song was chosen as the Record of the Week by Nick Grimshaw on BBC Radio 1
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
The Guardian gave the song a highly positive review and placed it at number 2 on their The Best Songs of 2011 list. In a review, Michael Cragg praised the song calling it "a startling three and a half minutes of attitude" as well as "incredible." Carrie Battan of Pitchfork Media complimented her "unpredictable vocal range" and wrote, "She clicks between characters and styles casually, effortlessly. No seams. A jaw-slackening demo reel." NME dubbed the song #18 on their 50 Best Tracks Of 2011, calling it "mischievous, quick-witted and full of filthy cunnilanguage: it’s made Azealia Banks, the coolest girl on the planet, and it delivered on 2011’s forward-thinking promise." NPR Music gave the song a positive review and listed it as one of their 100 Favorite Songs Of 2011, calling the song "the raunchiest shut-down of 2011." Pitchfork gave the song its Best New Music accolade and ranked it number 9 on their Top 100 Tracks of 2011 list
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
cunnilanguage
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
mixmag must have mentioned it in their 2011 coverage though, surely?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:34 (eleven years ago) link
looks like the earliest they mentioned it was january 4th?
http://www.mixmag.net/words/features/big-tunes/jan12
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
weak
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:41 (eleven years ago) link
212 did come out really late, I only remember the Singles Jukebox tackling it right at the end of November so it's perfectly possible that the December Mixmag was way past its print deadline by then. Attempting to shoehorn it into a 2012 list is just lame though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
tbf to mixmag i think that's the only place i've seen 'latch' so far
not like they should be getting mad props for a no-brainer like that but since every other publication is so dumb there it is
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
i thought "control" was better than "latch", which never quite clicked w/me
while we're on the subject of disclosure i wish EOY lists would stop fronting like their remix of "running" is better than the original (if any ware remix is superior, it's the joe goddard one of "night light")
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
Hey guys, I found this vintage copy of Q from December 1993 in the shops
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72367_10152337467005215_187229883_n.jpg
Oh wait
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:08 (eleven years ago) link
'latch' is a straight up anthem with (for once in our lives) the genuine chart stats to show for it, giving it no mention is criminal
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link
i think that's the only place i've seen 'latch' so far
http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-overrated-relea
the blurb is... uh, quite something
― Mind Taker, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link
oooffff that blurb, oh man how are people like that permitted to write in public
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
sigh can i not have one day without having a thundercloud of intense rage over me
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
wow what a moron. good to see the comments below are overwhelmingly negative too.
― nashwan, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
although to be fair, props for calling out some of the other records in that list
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
he is american anyway who gives a fuck
the real problem is more stuff like the guardian preening themselves over 'ima read' or whatever other irrelevance in something like 'latch's stead
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
This is music for people who don't like music, the kind of track teenage girls will rush to buy on iTunes after hearing it on the latest episode of The Vampire Diaries.
Seriously? Ugh.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
"ima read" was an IRL anthem! on catwalks and stuff. it's also better than "latch"
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link
haha i know damn well you were lolling as you wrote that so ima let it slide
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:23 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, December 20, 2012 3:18 AM Bookmark
haha you're really trying to make the veins pop out of my forehead
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
if you maybe attach those veins to your brain you'll see i'm not saying what you think i am
― r|t|c, Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
I love you too, babe.
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
The Disclosure remix of "Running" is better than the original, though that's still great as well.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 December 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
I thought that, then went back to the original yesterday, after a long gap - Disclosure remix hereby demoted! But not by much!
Ubiquity of Disclosure remix due in part to "squeezing two acts on the list for the price of one" syndrome?
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
I think I'd like Disclosure more if their sound were more... robust? I've liked so much garage revivalism this year and I've not been able to find much of an in with them at all, they're a bit polite and I mean in a tepid way rather than a sumptuous way.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
their artful dodger remix kinda brought that home to me
no hate for the disclosure remix at all, it's fun, but the original is the one that really conveys the epic OTT drama perfectly
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure 'Running' really suits a garage beat anyway. For all her dance connections, I'm not sure Jessie Ware is a terribly remix-able artist, or the ones people keep having a go at are the most 'complete' songs in the first place. Even the Joe Goddard remix of Night Light feels kinda forced. There's more potential in things like No To Love or Swan Song or the title track but those aren't the ones with the prominent remixes that I can see.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
The words "Disclosure, 'Latch'" unfortunately remind me of the jam band Dispatch.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
xp Clearly I haven't been banging on about Ewan Pearson's No to Love remix on here as much as I thought I had. Way better than the original but not "prominent" in the same way as the Running remix.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Yes that one's good and I'd forgotten about it, but it kind of works because No To Love is kind of mediocre and in need of fixing in the first place.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
the only issue i have with the ewan pearson remix is that he retains and indeed emphasises the dodgy male rap - otherwise it's lovely (and yes, the original "no to love" is whatever)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
Somehow the 80s dance references in the remix make the rap charming to me, because it's dodgy in a very old-fashioned way.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 20 December 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
Also I've paid minimal attention this year and freely admit I have zero authority on this subject but I found the monochrome sluggishness of a lot of the beats in the upper reaches of that Cocaine Blunts list a real drag to get through.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
some kind soul has compiled The Martorialist's list too. It's a bit more fun i think
http://themartorialist.blogspot.ie/2012/12/rap-game-joey-bartons-pigeon-french_18.html
― Number None, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
XLR8R's Best Releases of 2012Part One 40-21: http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-releases-part-oPart Two 20-1: http://www.xlr8r.com/features/2012/12/xlr8rs-best-2012-releases-part-t
40. DJ Rashad - TEKLIFE Vol. 1: Welcome to the Chi (Lit City)39. Bandshell - Dust March EP (Hessle)38. Pinch - Fabriclive 61 (Fabric)37. Objekt - "Cactus" b/w "Porcupine" (Hessle)36. Sigha - Living with Ghosts (Hotflush)35. Tevo Howard - Monument EP (Buzzin' Fly)34. J. Alvarez - Overseas Highway EP (HypeLTD)33. Disclosure - The Face EP (Greco-Roman)32. Oneman - Fabriclive 64 (Fabric)31. Anenon - Acquiescence EP (Non Projects)30. Bicep - Vision of Love EP (Feel My Bicep)29. Todd Edwards - Shall Go EP (Body High)28. Drexciya - Journey of the Deep Sea Dweller (Clone)27. oOoOO - Our Loving is Hurting Us EP (Tri Angle)26. Benjamin Damage and Doc Daneeka - They!Live (50Weapons)25. Ben Klock - Fabric 66 (Fabric)24. L-Vis 1990 - Club Constructions Vol. 1 (Night Slugs)23. Joy O & Boddika - "Froth" b/w "Mercy" (SunkLo)22. Redshape - "Throw in Dirt" b/w "The Land" (3024)21. Grimes - Visions (4AD)20. Gerry Read - Jummy (Fourth Wave)19. Mike Huckaby - The Tresor EP (Tresor)18. Shed - The Killer (50Weapons)17. Emeralds - Just to Feel Anything (Editions Mego)16. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems (Modern Love)15. Nautiluss - Habitat EP (Turbo)14. Daphni - Jiaolong (Merge)13. Holy Other - Held (Tri Angle)12. Todd Terje - It's the Arps EP (Smalltown Supersound)11. Chromatics - Kill for Love (Italians Do It Better)10. Vessel - Order of Noise (Tri Angle)9. Levon Vincent - Fabric 63 (Fabric)8. Jacques Greene - Ready EP (3024)7. Untold - Change in a Dynamic Environment (Hemlock)6. Barker & Baumecker - Transsektoral (Ostgut Ton)5. Mala - Mala in Cuba (Brownswood)4. Four Tet - Pink (Text)3. Actress - R.I.P. (Honest Jon's)2. Simian Mobile Disco - Unpatterns (Wichita)1. John Talabot - ƒIN (Permanent Vacation)
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:06 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and i found the "jazzy" Ab-Soul song to be super lame, was cool with the other stuff mostly
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
12. Todd TerjeIt's the Arps EP(Smalltown Supersound)"This little project was a result of me wanting to justify my purchase of a ARP2600, which cost a bit on the second-hand market. My rule was to use no samples, only sounds generated from this machine such as kicks, snares, hats, basslines, melodies, etc. It's funny to see the reaction to 'Inspector Norse' when I play it out, and it makes me laugh and think, 'Yeah, you girls don't know just how nerdy this song really is.' Nerds one, jocks nil." - Todd Terje
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
AGREED
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
What got me into the Disclosure remix was seeing Jessie Ware sing it live, on that C4 non-stop all-night DJ marathon thingy, at the end of the Annie Mac set. (Which is as close to "in situ" as I'm likely to get at this time of life, sigh.) So I don't have any issues over whether the vocals sit right with the track.
― mike t-diva, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
Baltimore Sun's top 10 albums: http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/music/chi-20121207-best-albums-music-pictures,0,6772301.photogallery
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/12/ten_best_noise_tracks_2012.php
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Disclosure remix of "Running" is not about the OTT drama at all, I agree, it's just consummate bouncing. The ear-tickling beat is so pretty yet compulsive, the way it dovetails with the synth chords and (yes) the slightly shrill sped up vocals. I wouldn't want them to be more robust.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
Always makes me flash back to listening to DJ Q sets at the beginning of the year.
― Tim F, Thursday, 20 December 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
Al is that the SUN list or the Sun Times list?
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah, the byline is Greg Kot from the Chicago Tribune, guess it's just syndicated content :(
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah like tim says the goal of the disclosure remix is very different. on my annual summer mix (the night edition) i put the original and the remix back to back and it really set off some house parties people... legit started dancing, it was great
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
man, that's the most heartbreaking and emotional rap song of the year
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
Rob Sheffield's singles list.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/blogs/pop-life/the-top-25-songs-of-2012-20121220
gotta admit he still makes me lol with buildups like "It's strange how much Leonard Cohen and David Lee Roth have in common"
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
i have no context for whatever that song is about, i'm just saying i didn't dig the sound of it (xp)
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
his gf's suicide
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
sheffield's "mercy" blurb that taunts the first half of a couplet without acknowledging the second half is so obnoxious
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
not that it's a great line or anything but you have to bend over backwards to make fun of it the way he does
can't even listen to the f.ocean alb cuz the cover looks like an orange ad
― god hates frogbs (cozen), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
did they fund its recording?
― god hates frogbs (cozen), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
i think a car company paid for "nostalgia ultra" too
― 2 Celloz (some dude), Thursday, 20 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
really disappointed for the lack of blondes' s/t. even not on RA's list! is it because it's like a compilation of singles? or just simply because people wasn't really into it?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
every time I see the name Blondes I think their an indie band even tho I know better
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 21 December 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
*weren't
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 21 December 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp Don't blame you: there's the Long Blondes, Blonde Redhead...
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Friday, 21 December 2012 04:02 (eleven years ago) link
Little White Earbuds - Top Tracks 2012http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/chart/lwes-top-25-tracks-of-2012-21-25/#.UNQodHfoElQ
01. Andrés, “New For U”02. Todd Terje, “Inspector Norse”03. Joy Orbison, “Ellipsis”04. Anthony Naples, “Mad Disrespect”05. Head High, “Rave” (Dirt Mix)06. Frak, “666″07. Bookworms, “African Rhythms”08. October, “String Theory (Feat. Borai)”09. Burial, “Kindred”10. Real Cool, “What About Our Weekend Adam?”
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 21 December 2012 09:14 (eleven years ago) link
kendrick tops p4k poll
― President Keyes, Friday, 21 December 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link
Ocean second, Apple third.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 21 December 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link
Yeaah! The Rashad album certainly deserves to top a few lists.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't check it out for a while because i thought this but i was wrong & missing out, and currently you are wrong & missing out
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure Rev would like Blondes really, that album was okay but 'Wine' is the only one I want to go back to with any regularity.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
That one track is amazing obviously but it's kind of the perfection of an aesthetic and the rest is basically the same but not as good.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
i still can't tell the difference between any of them, they all sound exactly the same in a fantastic way - it's just 50 mins of dazzling, completely distinct sounds
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:43 (eleven years ago) link
Thank god ocean didn't top p4k
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 21 December 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
the bicep remix on the flip is ace, too. so overlooked
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 21 December 2012 11:56 (eleven years ago) link
I love the first track on the Blondes album (Lovers?) with all the tribal chanting.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
Pitchfork albums list isn't terrible actually.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
isn't it just a slightly shuffled version of every other list?
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
Solid list. Surprised to see Spiritualized and Ariel Pink in there and I still don't see what's special about Chromatics but that's about it. Kendrick's a deserving #1.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:16 (eleven years ago) link
It's usually eyerollingly terrible but I suppose this year's consensus indie picks haven't been as lame as recent years.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
There's also the factor of it coming out relatively late - only P&J and ILX to follow - so nothing seems very surprising.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:22 (eleven years ago) link
the stench of "credible" "positioning" has been partic strong this year, across the board. it's been a good year for PRs.
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
I know you've been waiting for this...
Zane Lowe's 100 Hottest Recordshttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p7n4x
25 Lucy Rose - Lines24 Howard Oats - In The Water (BBC Session 31/01/2012)23 Peace - Bloodshake22 Spector - Celestine20 Bat for Lashes - Laura19 Deadmau5 - Professional Griefers (feat. Gerard Way)18 Lostprophets - Bring ‘Em Down17 Blur - Under The Westway16 Porter Robinson - Language15 The Killers - Runaways14 Biffy Clyro - Stingin’ Belle13 Rudimental - Feel The Love (feat. John Newman)12 The Vaccines - No Hope11 Lower Than Atlantis - If The World Was To End10 Muse - Survival9 Feed Me & Crystal Fighters - Love Is All I Got8 Muse - Madness7 Skrillex - Breakn’ A Sweat (Zedd Remix)6 MONSTA - Holdin’ On (Skrillex & Nero Remix)5 Enter Shikari - Arguing With Thermometers4 Swedish House Mafia - Don’t You Worry Child (feat. John Martin)3 Foals - Inhaler2 Green Day - Kill The DJ1 Sebastian Ingrosso & Alesso - Calling
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link
#18 a nice consolation for Ian Watkins there
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
I sense Zane is somewhat adrift
― Number None, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:40 (eleven years ago) link
bragging rights on nonce wing xp
it's a miracle how many PRs try to gain my attention by namechecking zane lowe's support. if i see his name on a press release it's an automatic chuck-in-the-bin
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:41 (eleven years ago) link
i hate zane lowe with a fucking passion.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
If you remove Blur and probably Bat For Lashes and Foals that's probably a reasonable summation of the sound of a suburban teenage boy's bedroom in 2012. My gf's 16 year old brother is into all that shit. Shame there's no Pendulum any more.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link
of a suburban teenage boy who listens to radio 1 maybe. there's enough access to tunes now that i'd say plenty are into more diverse stuff than that.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
and r1 is v specific demographic
Lots of people listen to Radio 1. Which is a mighty shame.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 21 December 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
Boomkat charts are up at last, love these lists for finding new stuff:http://boomkat.com/collections/boomkat-charts-2012
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Friday, 21 December 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
I like the Blondes album, but "Pleasure" is the much-better-than-the-rest stand-out track for me.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
The Zane list is basically Call of Duty and wanking music.
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
I usually dismiss suggestions that P4k's year-end lists, ostensibly voted upon, are the result of top-level editorial decisions to make points or look cool. But if I were Mark R., or whoever's in charge of the poll, and Kendrick and Frank were close in the voting, I'd be tempted to make Kendrick #1, knowing that Frank is likelier to top P&J.
― Sax Blatterday (jaymc), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
all about the branding
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
otm.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
call of duty/wanking and supporting the military.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 21 December 2012 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
Boomkat lists are up for those who hate fun:
http://boomkat.com/collections/boomkat-top-100-albums-2012-charthttp://boomkat.com/collections/boomkat-top-100-singles-eps-2012-chart
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Friday, 21 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Somehow the only people to have the Sprinkles record in their EOY?
― coal, Friday, 21 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
Spin's 20 best pop albums: http://www.spin.com/articles/best-pop-albums-2012?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter
― nobody's bitch speaks again (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
― Matt DC, Friday, 21 December 2012 14:24 (1 hour ago) Bookmark
what as opposed to new star soccer and craft beers music? come on i thought we were above this shite
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
Wot's craft beers music??
xp Ha, they are anti-fun in a way, though always interesting! Someone's gotta rep for The Caretaker and Richard Youngs! Has anyone else slogged through the entire X-TG double?
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
PAST CARING: Reissues, Compilations, Mixes, Live LPs and Other Odds & Sods
The Quietus Reissues List
1. Can – The Lost Tapes2. Black Rain – Now I’m Just A Number3. Swans – We Rose From Your Bed With The Sun In Our Head4. Ruff Sqwad - White Label Classics5. SunnO))) – ØØ Void6. William Basinski – The Disintegration Loops Box Set7. Sleep - Dopesmoker8. Laurie Spiegel - The Expanding Universe9. Tortoise – Millions Now Living Will Never Die10. CC Hennix & The Chora(s)san Time Court Mirage - Live At The Grimm Museum11. Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats – Blood Lust12. Chris Watson & Robert Macfarlane - The Sea-Road13. Laibach - Retro-Monumental Avant-Garde live at the Tate Modern14. Levon Vincent - Fabric 6315. Ike Yard - Ike Yard16. Wire - On The Box17. Cleaners From Venus – Midnight Cleaners18. Morphosis - Live At Panoramabar (Mnml Ssgs Mix)19. Porter Ricks – Biokinetics20. Karenn - Live At The Boiler Room21. Iain Sinclair - Stone Tape Shuffle22. Trans Am – Red Line23. Various Artists - Disco Discharge: Disco Exotica24. Annette Peacock – I Am The One25. Suede - Live At The Royal Albert Hall26. Pangaea - Mix For Resident Advisor27. Gareth Williams & Mary Currie - Flaming Tunes28. Cornershop – Urban Turban29. Surgeon - This Is The Place Where The Intellect Gets Annihilated (Mix)30. Jacques Brodier - Filtre De Relate31. Daphni – Jiaolong Album Launch Party Mix32. Shangaan Shake - Shangaan Electro Remixes33. Boban I Marko Markovic Orkestar – Golden Horns34. Electronic Explorations - Electronic Explorations Compilation35. Front 242 - Front By Front36. Minny Pops - Standstill to Motion: Live at the Melkweg, 19-03-198137. Sonic Youth – Smart Bar: Chicago 198538. High On Fire – The Art Of Self Defence39. ROB - Make It Fast, Make It Slow40. The Clarke and Ware Experiment – House Of Illustrious Box Set41. Bo Ningen - Live At St Leonards42. My Bloody Valentine – EPs 81 – 9143. Regis - Complete Works44. Various Artists – Trevor Jackson Presents Metal Dance45. Various Artists – Cliff Martinez Presents The Drive OST46. Various Artists - Voguing47. Ride - Going Blank Again48. Peter Zummo & Arthur Russell - Zummo With An X49. Smith & Mighty - The Three Stripe Collection50. The Heads - Relaxing With The Heads51. Various Artists – Andrew Weatherall: Masterpiece52. John Carpenter and Alan Howarth – Escape From New York OST53. Various Artists - Personal Space: Electronic Soul 1974-198454. Paperclip People - The Secret Tapes of Dr Eich55. Edzayawa - Projection One56. Atomic Forest – Obsession57. Various Artists – Cumbia Cumbia58. Mogwai - A Wrenched Virile Law59. Thirteenth Floor Elevators - Music Of The Spheres Box Set60. Joy O – Resident Advisor Mix61. The Cure – Pornography62. Helmet - Meantime63. Witch – We Intend To Cause Havoc64. Manic Street Preachers – Generation Terrorists65. Various Artists - Luk Thung: Classic & Obscure 78s From The Thai Countryside66. The Human League – Dare67. David Sylvian - A Victim of Stars68. The Quietus Mix 65 - Simian Mobile Disco69. Various Artists - Qat, Coffee and Qambus: Raw 45s From Yemen70. The Body – The Body71. Suzanne Ciani – Lixiviation72. The Beat – I Just Can’t Stop It73. Various Artists - Soul Cal: Funky Disco & Modern Soul (1971 – 1982)74. Michael Nyman - Michael Nyman75. Andrzej Korzynski - Secret Enigma
― Doran, Friday, 21 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
XP: I love the XTG double. Genuinely think it's a fantastic album but there's an argument to be made for the unreleased third disc being the best one in some ways. Faet Narok, is the most modern, evil and minimal sounding of the discs at least.
― Doran, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
that Soul Cal comp is wonderful
― Number None, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
XP: I think the Antony track Janitor Of Lunacy is the best though, probably my track of the year after Blawan's Why They Hide Their Bodies and The Thing and Neneh Cherry's cover of Dream Baby Dream.
― Doran, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
seventy-five reissues and no room for Robbie Basho's Twilight Peaks, makes me sick
― ogmor, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
I did like the Antony track but haven't been able to get all the way through yet. I will cue it up again soon!
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
Pitchfork's Top 50 Albums of 2012
50. Lambchop - Mr. M49. Crystal Castles - (III)48. Peaking Lights - Lucifer47. Pallbearer - Sorrow and Extinction46. Rustie - Essential Mix45. El-P - Cancer for Cure44. Metz - Metz43. Mac DeMarco - 242. Rick Ross - Rich Forever41. Dum Dum Girls - End of Daze EP40. DIIV - Oshin39. Hot Chip - In Our Heads38. Lotus Plaza - Spooky Action at a Distance37. Future - Pluto36. Sharon Van Etten - Tramp35. TNGHT - TNGHT34. Chairlift - Something33. Actress - R.I.P.32. Action Bronson/Party Supplies - Blue Chips31. Spiritualized - Sweet Heart Sweet Light30. The Men - Open Your Heart29. Cat Power - Sun28. How to Dress Well - Total Loss27. John Talabot - ƒIN26. Julia Holter - Ekstasis25. Schoolboy Q - Habits & Contradictions24. Purity Ring - Shrines23. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream22. Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes21. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes20. Jessie Ware - Devotion19. Cloud Nothings - Attack on Memory18. Ty Segall Band/Ty Segall & White Fence - Slaughterhouse/Hair17. Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man16. Burial - Kindred EP15. Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan14. Andy Stott - Luxury Problems13. Killer Mike - R.A.P. Music12. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!11. Japandroids - Celebration Rock10. Grizzly Bear - Shields9. Death Grips - The Money Store8. Chromatics - Kill For Love7. Beach House - Bloom6. Grimes - Visions5. Swans - The Seer4. Tame Impala - Lonerism3. Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...2. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange1. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
why did i even bother half-hoping that the combined forces of tim and j0rdan could get dawn into that :(
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
after tirelessly stanning for the entire year i think i can count the number of critics who voted for her on the fingers of both hands :(
and fucking...other artists just sweep up votes like it's nothing
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
didn't p1p3c0ck used to write for LWE? it's...interesting how much luv they are giving to Pittsburgh Track Authority
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 21 December 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Stereogum couldn't find room for Ka's Grief Pedigree in its top 40 rap albums list:
http://stereogum.com/1225002/stereogums-top-40-rap-albums-of-2012-2/top-stories/lead-story/
1. Kendrick2. Future3. Action Bronson4. El-P5. Killer Mike6. Roc Marciano7. Rick Ross8. Schoolboy Q
― alpine static, Friday, 21 December 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
i like that action bronson is getting mentioned, blue chips is prob in my top-10 for any genre
― johnny crunch, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
i wish boldy's record had gotten at least a lil love but it seems like it didn't have the impact of the 1st one and that one was completely slept on
― D-40, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
people are REALLY riding with this action bronson thing
Or a single woman
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Nicki is on there
― Number None, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
maybe she's got a boyfriend?
― nobody's bitch speaks again (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
she's got a lot of sons. Not sure about her relationship status
― Number None, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh I thought the list was only what was c/ped
One woman isn't any better, any rap list that doesn't include Angel Haze is ridiculous to me
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
i swear i would never have even heard of Angel Haze if you didn't post here
― nobody's bitch speaks again (some dude), Friday, 21 December 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, December 21, 2012 12:55 PM (5 hours ago)
Your Dawn Richard is my Niki & The Dove. The difference being that I recognize my favorite thing is sort of a niche release, just like Dawn's ep.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
Angel Haze has actually had quite a bit of buzz over here, I mean significantly more than a lot of rappers. She might well be higher profile in Britain than in the US.
Call of Duty and wanking are both enormously popular pastimes! I mean the music is mostly execrable but there's a serious point in there that you overlook the favourite music of yr suburban teenage boy at your peril but at the same time I don't want to live in a world where we can't be cunts when it comes to Zane Lowe.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 22 December 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
I like Call of Duty and wanking. ¯\(°_o)/¯
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
"Angel Haze has actually had quite a bit of buzz over here, I mean significantly more than a lot of rappers. She might well be higher profile in Britain than in the US."
god this makes so much sense
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 22 December 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
how so?
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link
/what as opposed to new star soccer and craft beers music? come on i thought we were above this shite/
low blow aside, tis the season etc, radio 1's success is based on a very, very tight strategy in terms of who it's aimed at. as cynical as any comment upthread. plus I hardly think you're repping for the zane list, note I didn't comment on the music anyway, just his audience.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 22 December 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
What makes Armor On a niche release? It feels p epochal. I have not heard Niki and the Dove tho either...
― when worlds coincide (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 22 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
Nothing in particular, other than it being popular music that has obstacles in its path to actually being popular. I mean, who knows why Florence + The Machine made that transition when a whole group of other similar (and better) artists couldn't?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
good publicists, good marketing
dawn has a team of 5, she literally can't compete in terms of PR
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
Or, like, Ellie Goulding—the weakest singer with the weakest material who gets all the buzz her peers don't get. It doesn't make me furious or anything. I just don't get it.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Ah come on, saying x band I dislike is successful cos of "marketing" is straight up indie bullshit.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
ellie goulding has a formidable pr team too, yes
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
xp ok PR and marketing departments have *no* effect on any artist's critical or commercial success, tbh i don't understand why they haven't all been fired to cut costs
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
How do you deduce that others are affected and not yourself?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
did i say that? can you read? why are you talking to me again?
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
This situation is best observed on a case-by-case basis.
Let's go back to the early aughts and look at Good Charlotte. I can't explain their sudden rise to prominence through any other means besides killer PR. They came from nowhere, looked like a bunch of other bands and had an indistinguishable sound, but trounced their peers. It's either PR, or it's the fact there's a guy in the band named Benji. People love the name Benji.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Not commenting on personal problems, just remember the whole "it's marketing" defence mechanism from arguing with indie friends about pop, when I was about 15. I guess don't mention rockism again.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Where's Tom Ewing when you need some popism/actual understanding of marketing?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
i am fairly sure tom ewing would acknowledge that when you have a canny major label marketing strategy behind one artist, and an amateur self-taught team of 5 behind the other, this will have an effect on how well the music does
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Let's go back to the early aughts and look at Good Charlotte. I can't explain their sudden rise to prominence through any other means besides killer PR a bunch of hooky, memorable singles.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with Lex that PR clearly makes a difference to the likelihood an artist will find a large fanbase, but I don't accept Johnny Fever's more ambitious argument that certain acts only succeed because of marketing.
Even with Ellie Goulding there's a reason that Kate Bush ish "doo doo doo dooooo" single is all over the radio.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
I can't explain their sudden rise to prominence through any other means besides killer PR a bunch of hooky, memorable singles their residence almost daily on TRL.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry but Good Charlotte were a great singles band, you gots to deal.
― Tim F, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I like "The River", but they were already in decline by that point.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
I don't accept Johnny Fever's more ambitious argument that certain acts only succeed because of marketing.
yes, i'm not arguing this, it's a pretty old chestnut that is admittedly easier to target if one doesn't want to engage with what i am arguing
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
it is honestly pretty easy to see when other critics are being affected by PR when everyone begins tweeting about an artist, who has been around for a while beforehand, on THE DAY that you get the first PR mailout w/buzz track etc
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
and as far as me being affected by PR - sure, there are def certain PRs whose new artists i'll make more of an effort to listen to, whether because i trust that PR's taste or because they're a nice person or whatever
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, okay...maybe I just have an axe to grind with Good Charlotte.
I CAN tell you, though, that when Kings of Leon sprung up from nowhere talking about how they paid their Nashville dues that it was a load of shite. They never played the Nashville circuit and nobody in the music community there had a clue who they were. P.R.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
but if they had paid their Nashville dues would it have made them a better band or better looking?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
No. I was just pointing out that the PR story that got passed around at the time was a bunch of hooey.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
"Lights" is a good song
― crüt, Saturday, 22 December 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
Somewhat related, but ASFAIK, the disparity in reception of iamamiwhoami's Kin between consumers (its #6 on rateyourmusic) and critics (only the US blog Pretty Much Amazing and Spanish blog Jenesaispop rated it at year end) seems to stem from a marketing strategy that entirely bypassed critical filters. Were there no promos?
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Saturday, 22 December 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
Oops, it actually ranked #55 amongst all RYM users in all genres (I forgot my usual filters to tame the metal/prog slant of RYM's demographic). Still, huge disparity with the #640 rank from the acclaimed poll of polls.
― Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Saturday, 22 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah you could probably make all sorts of observations about various artists if you just compared Rate Your Music rankings to Acclaimed Music rankings
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Saturday, 22 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
XXP: Razorlight being taken seriously in the UK as front cover stars/fit to play above Slayer on the main stage of Reading Festival, is entirely down to the preternaturally persuasive campaign launched by a husband wife/ manager PR team, so it's skill rather than size I think.
Also with Florence I can confirm her PR team was formidable. We got bollocked by them. One of their own team got threatened with the axe after he publicly endorsed our (slightly snide and misjudged by me) article on her. The whole experience felt like abseiling into a volcano.
PR people in America can be quite bracing especially if you're talking about classic rock but that said, Ken Weinstein at Q Prime for Metallica was a sweetheart. Nothing compares to some German metal labels however, who in past have made anonymous phone calls to me with voice disguising technology in the middle of the night to tell me that my career was over because of a mocking review.
Also, see Django Django, Crystal Castles, Alt J, Everything Everything etc etc. The horse trading you're supposed to indulge in to even get near to these bands is deeply unpleasant.
The majority of PR people in the UK are ace though. I'm sure I've got more social friends who are PRs than journalists. A really good PR is better for the artist than a mediocre writer. IMHO.
― Doran, Saturday, 22 December 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
haha the multiple stories about florence's heavy-handed PR. i guess editors are on the receiving end of that more than writers, worst i've had to deal with are a few overly stern ones
being nice is a way more effective PR strategy ime (though it's still a PR strategy! i have thought, well, that act that a lot of critics seem to like inexplicably, their PR is a really genuinely lovely guy, hmmm)
― lex pretend, Saturday, 22 December 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I don't cover bands if the PR tries to play hardball with us or indulge in horsetrading as a matter of principle but if the PR person is nice/ funny/ whatever, that can persuade me to go back for an extra few listens.
You've got to know what you're doing though. PR is a dark art. A one man, neo nazi punk rock band sent me a fiver with his cassette. I wrote back thanking him and said that I'd passed his details on to the police and a prominent Anti Nazi magazine. He then self released two singles, 'We Hate You John Doran' and 'Why Don't You Stick This Album Up Your Arse You Sarcastic Creep'. When I gave them bad reviews in Metal Hammer he went mad and attacked his neighbour with a Samurai sword, breaking his arm. He remains, to this day in a secure psychiatric ward unfit to plead. But he had phone privileges for the first year. Which is why Metal Hammer received a death threat for me at 9pm every night for over 300 days.
I think it's good to have an exit strategy when you decide to take a more unorthodox angry PR style with people.
― Doran, Saturday, 22 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I realize Germany and Japan were allies and all, but is a samurai sword really an appropriate weapon for a neo-nazi?
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 December 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
He didn't strike me as particularly bright - or like a man who had aesthetic criteria when it came to choosing weaponry. I kept some of the death threats he sent to me on cassette... he raps on some of them. I found them dead funny until the sword business. Then it was like, 'Right then Mr Fancy Pants media guy in Chattering Class London, taking on the authentic voice of the streets of Portsmouth are we? Not on my watch.'
― Doran, Saturday, 22 December 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
tbh it seems like britishers are always the most vocal to boost female rappers like that lately. i was in england for a couple months earlier this year and it seemed like folks were way more jazzed about, like, azealia banks there than here, even years ago trina's singles seemed to pop more over there than america. feel free to prove me wrong on this, i don't know shit
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
america is pretty sexist about female rappers
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 22 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
― crüt, Saturday, 22 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
Fuck "lately", wasn't the UK the place where like Monie Love and Wee Papa Girls got started?
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 22 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
Doran, did this guy have a strong Cornish accent by any chance? This is very reminiscent of someone who used to pester my mate's old band by phone and mail.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Sunday, 23 December 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, December 22, 2012 10:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
plausible, i always thought kim and trina were huge in the US though. oh well score one for us
― lex pretend, Sunday, 23 December 2012 01:14 (eleven years ago) link
kim was a big deal in her time, trina was kind of a mid level star
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, Trina was popular but never huge. The difference between Kim's time and now is more than one female rapper was allowed to be on the radio.
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
uh, doesn't look like Trina's any bigger in the UK than here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trina_discography
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a liar, a filthy liar
(i actually have no idea where that idea came from)
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:53 (eleven years ago) link
trina's uk chart positions are very kind to her if anything, i don't remember her being a thing here at any point outside of my own immediate orbit
as for kim i think a lot more people in the uk know who she is than could name or sing any of her songs ("lighters up" is oddly the one people always seem to hit on first)
The difference between Kim's time and now is more than one female rapper was allowed to be on the radio.
this one-female-rapper-at-a-time thing is a bit of a myth imo (one designed to KEEP FEMALE RAPPERS DOWN) - i was talking to iggy azalea the other week and we were both like, hang on, this has never actually been true, missy/eve/kim/trina/remy ma and prob a few more were all concurrent-to-overlapping
― lex pretend, Sunday, 23 December 2012 08:38 (eleven years ago) link
thankfully for iggy there are no other slave masters on the radio right now, so she has that lane clear to herself
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 23 December 2012 08:47 (eleven years ago) link
Let's go back to the early aughts and look at Good Charlotte. I can't explain their sudden rise to prominence through any other means besides [killer PR] a bunch of hooky, memorable singles.
True for anyone. Nobody is going to say something is good unless they personally like it.
The sense of value judgement about acts who have bigger PR teams is just ancient bullshit IMO. It's not a dark art of mind control or some shit.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Sunday, 23 December 2012 09:21 (eleven years ago) link
A one man, neo nazi punk rock band sent me a fiver with his cassette. I wrote back thanking him and said that I'd passed his details on to the police and a prominent Anti Nazi magazine. He then self released two singles, 'We Hate You John Doran' and 'Why Don't You Stick This Album Up Your Arse You Sarcastic Creep'.
Wtf, btw.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Sunday, 23 December 2012 09:24 (eleven years ago) link
Razorlight being taken seriously in the UK as front cover stars/fit to play above Slayer on the main stage of Reading Festival
lol at 'fit to play'
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 23 December 2012 09:25 (eleven years ago) link
reading festival promoters failing to uphold objective standards of musical integrity and quality and just bowing to corporate propoganda ;_;
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 23 December 2012 09:26 (eleven years ago) link
who was arguing this? and what, precisely, do you think PR teams are paid for?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 23 December 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Sunday, December 23, 2012 3:38 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
nah Rev was saying that there USED to be more than one female rapper in the mainstream spotlight at once in the days of Missy and Kim and Eve and so on, but in the era of Nicki (and the 5 years before her that nobody female was really poppin') it feels like there's not as much room being made for multiple stars.
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
Music industry economics really, why bother with multiple stars, who are expensive and risky, when you can take one surefire bankable one and throw all your ideas at them? See also Rihanna. And I don't think anyone from the late 90s/early 00s had the sort of ridiculous workrate of those two.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 23 December 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link
well there are still as many rap stars as ever, this is about all but one being male instead of all but a handful
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link
Well yeah there's the institutional sexism thing as well, in that the music business is prepared to invest and support multiple male rappers and even let some of them do it on their own terms. But I can't envisage them really bothering with a female rapper who they couldn't simultaneously push as a mainstream pop star, and Nicki is really canny and supremely good at her own positioning. But it's virtually impossible to imagine a female Rick Ross existing or succeeding.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 23 December 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
true. a lot of the female rappers trying to get in the door have pop star ambitions just as overt as Nicki's though. a "female Rick Ross" (has any phrase ever had such disturbing connotations?) could happen, but gangsta type female MCs never had a big presence to begin with.
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 13:08 (eleven years ago) link
10 Pig Destroyer – Book Burner (OK but they've still never topped Terrifyer and never will)
month late on this but Phantom Limb is a better album than Terrifyer
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 23 December 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theworld.org/2012/12/global-hit-picks-for-2012/
7 or so lists from folks involved with this public radio show. Not much metal or r'n'b.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 23 December 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
I said, "the sense", that doesn't imply an argument, it implies a prejudice.
PR is about promoting awareness, not duping the eternal everyone whom the casual rockist assumes to be thick and duped in every decision they make.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
PReeple
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
horse-trading for access is gross.
― maura, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
also i mean it doesn't exactly engender trust with the reader
― maura, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol j0rdan
― flopson, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
I linked to my year-end summary last week, and here's the overall top 100. I also finished my mix last weekend, 100 songs, 1.2 GB, 9 hours, 31 minutes, 56 seconds. It's linked from the usual cover image at the beginning of the summary. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Kwanza, Solstice, Krampusnacht, and holidaze!
Fast 'n' Bulbous Best of 201201. Colour Haze – She Said (Elektrohasch) 02. Ufomammut – Oro: Opus Primum & Opus Alter (Neurot)03. Graveyard – Lights Out (Nuclear Blast)04. Witchcraft – Legend (Nuclear Blast)05. Troubled Horse – Step Inside (Rise Above/Metal Blade) 06. Gojira – L'Enfant Sauvage (Roadrunner)07. Golden Void – Golden Void (Thrill Jockey) 08. Royal Thunder – CVI (Relapse)09. Spiders – Flash Point (Crusher) 10. Christian Mistress – Possession (Relapse)11. Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken – The Death Defying Unicorn (Rune Grammofon) 12. Goat – World Music (Rocket) 13. At Devil Dirt – Chapter II (Vulgo gratissimus auctor) (At Devil Dirt)14. Wo Fat – The Black Code (Small Stone)15. Horisont – Second Assault (Rise Above)16. Captain Crimson – Dancing Madly Backwards (Transubstans)17. Jess and the Ancient Ones – Jess and the Ancient Ones (Svart)18. Torche – Harmonicraft (Volcom)19. Om – Advaitic Songs (Drag City) 20. Baroness – Yellow & Green (Relapse)21. Moon Duo – Circles (Sacred Bones) 22. Bong – Mana-Yood-Sushai (Ritual Productions) 23. Crippled Black Phoenix – (Mankind) The Crafty Ape (Cool Green) 24. Corsair – Corsair (Corsair)25. Castle – Blacklands (Ván/Prosthetic)26. Witch Mountain – Cauldron Of The Wild (Profound Lore)27. Venomous Maximus – Beg Upon The Light (Cutthroat)28. Sun Araw & M.G. Gengras Meet The Congos – Icon Give Thank (FRKWYS) 29. My Sleeping Karma – Soma (Napalm)30. Wight – Through The Woods Into Deep Water (Bilocation/Fat & Holy)31. Peaking Lights – Lucifer/Lucifer In Dub (Mexican Summer) 32. Swans – The Seer (Young God) 33. Tame Impala – Lonerism (Modular) 34. Deep Time – Deep Time (Hardly Art) 35. Andy Stott – Luxury Problems (Modern Love) 36. Owl – First Album (Magick Hermit/Lummox)37. Dawnbringer – Into The Lair Of The Sun God (Profound Lore)38. Maxïmo Park – The National Health (Warp/Straight To The Sun) 39. Greenleaf – Nest Of Vipers (Small Stone)40. Glowsun – Eternal Season (Napalm)41. Black Moth – The Killing Jar (New Heavy Sounds)42. Six Organs Of Admittance – Ascent (Drag City) 43. The Machine – Calmer Than You Are (Elektrohasch) 44. The Sword – Apocryphon (Razor & Tie) 45. Admiral Sir Cloudesley Shovell – Don't Hear It?Fear It! (Rise Above/Metal Blade)46. Staff Benda Bilili – Bouger le Monde! (Crammed Discs)47. Kadavar – Kadavar (Tee Pee)48. Heat – Old Sparky (Electric Magic)49. Orcus Chylde – Orcus Chylde (World In Sound) 50. Elder – Spires Burn EP (Armageddon)51. Alunah – White Hoarhound (PsycheDOOMelic)52. Zombie Zombie – Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde (Versatile) 53. Light Asylum – Light Asylum (Mexican Summer) 54. Liars – WIXIW (Mute) 55. Lau Nau – Valohiukkanen (Fonal) 56. Wovenhand – The Laughing Stalk (Sounds Familyre)57. Sierra Leone's Refugee Allstars – Radio Salone (Cumbancha) 58. Ice Dragon – Dream Dragon (Yersinia Pestis)59. Mamont – Passing Through The Mastery Door (Ozium)60. Trippy Wicked & the Cosmic Children of the Knight – Going Home (Trippy Wicked)61. High On Fire – De Vermis Mysteriis (eOne) 62. Royal Baths – Better Luck Next Time (Kanine) 63. Wild Nothing – Nocturne (Captured Tracks) 64. Dos Cafundós – Capitão Coração (Far Out) 65. Tom Zé – Tropicalia Lixo Logico (Passarinho) 66. Wadada Leo Smith – Ten Freedom Summers (Cuneiform) 67. Deepspacepilots – Deepspacepilots (Deepspacepilots)68. Dinosaur Jr. – I Bet On Sky (Jagjaguwar) 69. Japandroids – Celebration Rock (Polyvinyl) 70. O.Children – Apnea (Deadly People) 71. Ice Dragon – Tome Of The Future Ancients (Yersinia Pestis)72. Ivy Garden Of The Desert – Blood Is Love (Nasoni) 73. Snail – Terminus (Snail)74. Marissa Nadler – The Sister (Box of Cedar)75. Wymond Miles – Under The Pale Moon (Sacred Bones) 76. Bnegao & Seletores De Frequencia – Sintoniza La (Coqueiro Verde) 77. Amadou & Mariam – Folila (Nonesuch) 78. Baby Woodrose – Third Eye Surgery (Bad Afro) 79. Conan – Monnos (Burning World)80. Ancestors – In Dreams And Time (Tee Pee) 81. Dan Deacon – America (Domino) 82. Grand Magus – The Hunt (Nuclear Blast) 83. Gallon Drunk – The Road Gets Darker From Here (Clouds Hill) 84. The Touré-Raichel Collective – The Tel Aviv Session (Cumbancha) 85. Neneh Cherry & The Thing – The Cherry Thing (Smalltown Supersound) 86. Aqua Nebula Oscillator – Third (Tee Pee) 87. Cortez – Cortez (Cortez)88. Turing Machine – What Is The Meaning Of What (Temporary Residence) 89. Stacian – Songs For Cadets (Moniker)90. Beach House – Bloom (Sub Pop) 91. Orange Goblin – A Eulogy For The Damned (Candlelight)92. Lento – Anxiety Despair Languish (Denovali) 93. Rival Sons – Head Down (Earache) 94. Gypsyhawk – Revelry & Resilence (Metal Blade) 95. Alcest – Les Voyages de l'Âme (Prophecy) 96. Talk Normal – Sunshine (Joyful Noise) 97. The Random Kids – Paint It All Gold (Random Kids)98. Grass Widow – Internal Logic (HLR) 99. White Manna – White Manna (Holy Mountain) 100. Nude Beach – II (Other Music)
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 24 December 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
OTM. i've felt so alone about this. all the reviews of book burner are like "a return to form after phantom limb" and i'm like "what"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 24 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
stop spamming
― J0rdan S., Monday, 24 December 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
goddamn, Fastnbulbous, yr year-end summary is incredible. kudos.
― alpine static, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
Big Haas Top 5 Hip-Hop Releases from the Middle East
Omar Offendum – SyrianamericanaAsfalt – Ana SatreenThe Narcicyst – Leap of FaithArabian Knightz – RebelShadia Mansour – El Kofeyye Arabeyye
from PRI the world, syndicated public radio show
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
http://latinmusic.about.com/od/playlists/tp/Top-Latin-Songs-2012.htm
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://africasacountry.com/2012/12/26/the-top-10-african-music-videos-of-2012/
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
End Of Year List of 'Sterreplaten', Belgian Radio show:
A-ZBurial - Kindred EP Flying Horseman - Twist Frank Ocean - Channel Orange Grimes - Visions John Maus - A Collection Of Rarities And Previously Unreleased Material John Talabot - Fin Laurel Halo - Quarantine Raime - Quarter Turns Over A Living Line Sam Flax - Age Waves Swans - The Seer Ty Segall - Slaughterhouse Vessel - Order Of Noise
Audio for the Dutch speaking part of ILX: www.mixcloud.com/Sterrenplaten/sterrenplaten-eindejaar-21-december-2012
― maarten, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
should "personal best of the year" be a different thread? not that i wanna post my own list or start that thread myself, just saying maybe that could be the place if people wanna link to their own blog or something.
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
some of those african tracks are great
― flopson, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/critics-best-top-music-2012/Content?oid=8243121
Peter Margasak's top 5 international list is headed by a more traditional sounding afropop artist, Paris-based Malian singer, acoustic guitarist Fatoumata Diawara, Fatou (World Circuit/Nonesuch)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.newworldbuzz.com/2012.html
1Amadou & Mariam | Folila | Nonesuch2Rodrigo Y Gabriela & C.U.B.A. | Area 52 | ATO-Red3Novalima | Karimba | ELS Music4Tinariwen | Tassili | Anti-5Marisa Monte | O Que Você Quer Saber De Verdade | Blue Note6Antibalas | Antibalas | Daptone7Jimmy Cliff | Rebirth | Trojan8Bonga | Hora Kota | Lusafrica9Afrolicious | A Dub For Mali | ESL10VA | Samaya: A Benefit Album For Cheb i Sabbah | Six Degrees11Te Vaka | Havili | Warm Earth12Staff Benda Bilili | Bouger Le Monde | Crammed Discs13Chicha Libre | Canibalismo | Barbes14Nation Beat | Growing Stone | Barbes15Midnite | Kings Bell | I Grade16Fatoumata Diawara | Fatou | Nonesuch17Lila Downs | Pecados Y Milagros | Sony18Bibi Tanga & The Selenites | 40º of Sunshine | Nat Geo19Céu | Caravana Sereia Bloom | Six Degrees20DRC Music | Kinshasa One Two | Warp21Sola Rosa | Get It Together | Melting Pot2210 Ft. Ganja Plant | Shake Up The Place | ROIR23Jose Conde | Jose Conde | Pipiki24Vlada Tomova | Balkan Tales | Kuker Music25Kiran Ahluwalia | Aam Zameen: Common Ground | Avokado Artists26Ana Tijoux | La Bala | Nacional27Debo Band | Debo Band | Sub Pop-Next Ambiance28Abdoulaye Traoré & Mohamed Diaby | Debademba | Chapa Blues29The Spy From Cairo | Arabadub | Wonderwheel30Delhi 2 Dublin | Delhi 2 Dubland EP | Self-Released
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
There's plenty of publications that put up lists by one writer. Ans as I said when I created this thread:
Bloggers and freelance/single/married/swingin' critics welcome to submit here too!
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
xp I could usually rely on getting good Brazilian recommendations from Margasak, but 5 is kind of limiting. Here's my global/international list:
1. Staff Benda Bilili – Bouger le Monde! (Crammed Discs) - Congo2. Sierra Leone’s Refugee Allstars – Radio Salone (Cumbancha) – Sierra Leone3. Dos Cafundós – Capitão Coração (Far Out) – Brazil4. Tom Zé – Tropicalia Lixo Logico (Passarinho) – Brazil5. Bnegao & Seletores De Frequencia – Sintoniza La (Coqueiro Verde) – Brazil6. Amadou & Mariam – Folila (Nonesuch) – Mali7. The Touré-Raichel Collective – The Tel Aviv Session (Cumbancha) – Mali/Israel8. Jimmy Cliff – Rebirth (Universal) – Jamaica9. Ondatrópica – Ondatrópica (Soundways) – Colombia10. Lucas Santtana – The God Who Devastates Also Cures (Mais Un Discos) – Brazil11. Café Tacuba – El Objeto Antes Llamado Disco (Verve) – Mexico12. Getatchew Mekuria & The Ex – Y’Anbessaw Tezeta (Terp) – Ethiopia/Netherlands13. Fatoumata Diawara – Fatou (World Circuit) – Mali14. Debo Band – Debo Band (Next Ambience/Sub Pop) – U.S./Ethiopia15. Galactic – Carnivale Electricos (Anti-) U.S.16. Sexy Fi – Nunca Te Vi De Boa (Far Out) – Brazil17. Makoomba – Rising Tide (Igloo) – Zimbabwe18. Spoek Mathambo – Father Creeper (Sub Pop) – South Africa19. Céu – Caravana Sereia Bloom (Six Degrees) – Brazil20. Zani Diabaté & Les Héritiers – Tientalaw (Sterns) – Mali21. Sidi Touré – Koïma (Thrill Jockey) – Mali
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
ok, here's my year end world list:
1. The Very Best - MTMTMK (Moshi Moshi) - Malawi2. Zieti - Zemelewa (Grigri) - Ivory Coast3. Amadou & Mariam - Folila (Nonesuch) - Mali4. Janka Nabay - En Yay Sah (Luaka Bop) - Sierra Leone5. Staff Benda Bilili - Bouger le Monde! (Crammed Discs) - Congo6. Getatchew Mekuria & The Ex - Y'Anbessaw Tezeta (Terp) - Ethiopia7. Fatoumata Diawara - Fatou (World Circuit) - Mali8. Batida - Batida (Soundway) - Angola9. Nneka - Soul is Heavy (Decon) - Nigeria10. Debo Band - Debo Band (Sub Pop) - Ethiopia
― Mordy, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
― flopson, Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This.
Esp:
Vetkuk vs Mahoota's "iStokvela"Dama Do Bling's "Champion"D.i.s. Guise's "Mr Bambe"
― Tim F, Wednesday, 26 December 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
About.com - Best R&B/Soul Albums of 2012http://randb.about.com/od/top5lists/tp/Best-Albums-Of-2012.htm
01. Usher - Looking 4 Myself02. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange03. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream04. Meshell Ndegeocello - Pour Une Âme Souveraine05. R. Kelly - Write Me Back (Deluxe Version)06. Alicia Keys - Girl on Fire07. Cody ChesnuTT - Landing on a Hundred08. K'Jon - Moving On09. Quantic & Alice Russell - Look Around the Corner10. The Big Ol' Nasty Getdown - Vol. 111. Leela James - Loving You More ... in the Spirit of Etta James12. Nneka - Soul is Heavy13. Ne-Yo - R.E.D.14. Ruben Studdard - Letters From Birmingham15. Estelle - All of Me16. Anthony David - Love Out Loud17. Monica - New Life18. Tank - This is How I Feel19. Keyshia Cole - Woman to Woman20. Ryan Shaw - Real Love
― cock chirea, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:20 (eleven years ago) link
Jon K'Jon
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link
Ha!
― Raymond Cummings, Thursday, 27 December 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
ha, I kinda like this Stereogum best electronic dance tracks list. A bunch of my favorite stuff this year, plus some A+ trolling, and uhhh....Hot Chip.
30. Calvin Harris Ft. Ne-Yo – “Let’s Go”29. Baauer – “Harlem Shake”28. Joy Orbison, Bodikka, and Pearson Sound – “Faint”27. Storm Queen – “Let’s Make Mistakes”26. Major Lazer Ft. Partysquad – “Original Don” (Flosstradamus Remix)25. KW Griff – “Bring In The Katz” Ft. Porkchop24. Swedish House Mafia – “Don’t You Worry Child” Ft. John Martin23. Wiley – “I’m Skanking” (2 Bears Remix)22. Mala – “Changuito”21. Kendrick Lamar – “Swimming Pools (Drank)” (DJ Big O Remix)20. Maya Jane Coles – “Not Listening”19. Burial – “Kindred”18. Traxman – “Blow Yo Shit” (Lenkemz Remix)17. Hot Chip – “Motion Sickness”16. Mike Q – “Ha Dub Rewerkd”15. DJ Sliink – “Putcha Back In It”14. Disclosure – “Latch” Ft. Sam Smith13. Untold – “Motion The Dance”12. John Talabot – “So Will Be Now” Ft. Pional11. Zebra Katz Ft. Njena Reddd Foxxx – “Ima Read”10. Pearson Sound – “Untitled”9. DJ Rashad – “Trap Back”8. Todd Terje – “Inspector Norse”7. Rihanna – “Where Have You Been”6. Julio Bashmore – "Au Seve"5. TNGHT – “Bugg’n”4. Blawan – “Why They Hide Their Bodies Under My Garage”3. Brenmar & DJ Sliink – “BAIT”2. Jessie Ware – “Running” (Disclosure Remix)1. Kanye West – “Mercy” (RL Grime & Salva Remix)
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://stereogum.com/1226011/the-top-30-edm-tracks-of-2012/franchises/listomania/
about.com list is kinda bizarro but i'll be feeling it more than anyone else's, ursh at #1 is a baller move nevermind the rest
― r|t|c, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad to see that estelle album get some props
06. Alicia Keys - Girl on Fire
this is strange though
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
haha i actually think pretty little of like 16 records on there but the list itself makes me want to like them
― r|t|c, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
AllMusic’s Favorite R&B Albums of 2012http://blog.allmusic.com/2012/12/11/allmusics-favorite-rb-albums-of-2012/#more-15484
Brandy – Two ElevenCody ChesnuTT – Landing on a HundredKeyshia Cole – Woman to WomanColumbia Nights – Dawn | DuskAnthony David – Love Out LoudDwele – Greater Than OneMelanie Fiona – MF LifeRobert Glasper Experiment – Black RadioVivian Green – The Green RoomNona Hendryx – Mutatis MutandisLeela James – Loving You More…In the Spirit of Etta JamesR. Kelly – Write Me BackMiguel – Kaleidoscope DreamGeorgia Anne Muldrow – SeedsMeshell Ndegeocello – Pour Une Âme Souveraine: A Dedication to Nina SimoneFrank Ocean – Channel OrangeSWV – I Missed UsTHEESatisfaction – Awe NaturaleElle Varner – Perfectly ImperfectJessie Ware – Devotion
― r|t|c, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
i was about to say "now THAT'S a good list" before i saw the source and that'll be andy k!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
the alphabetical style frustrates me though cause i'd really like to see how he'd rank them
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 02:40 (eleven years ago) link
Posts v much in character
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 28 December 2012 04:46 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure if you've seen it separately al, but andy's personal overall top 20 suggests that the following are his top 7:
01 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange05 Jessie Ware - Devotion06 Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream08 Robert Glasper Experiment - Black Radio10 THEESatisfaction - Awe Naturale12 Elle Varner - Perfectly Imperfect20 Georgia Anne Muldrow - Seeds
― Tim F, Friday, 28 December 2012 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i like my deckchairs arranged in order of preference too
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
how was that Muldrow record?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
it's pretty good. Madlib-produced and more focused than usual.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXNiy4in46s
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
20th-best of the year is about right
Tim Sweeney has done a mix of his fave tunes here:
http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/657
But also a list of albums and tracks:
Favorite LP's of 2012:Kindness - World, You Need A Change Of Mind - Terrible RecordsMichael Mayer - Mantasy - KompaktJohn Talabot – ƒIN - Permanent VacationDaphni - Jiaolong - JiaolongMungolian Jetset - Mungodelics - Smalltown SupersoundThe Chromatics - Kill For Love - Italians Do It BetterMatthew Dear - Beams - Ghostly InternationalSimian Mobile Disco - Unpatterns - WitchitaAriel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Mature Themes - 4ADDaniel Maloso - In And Out - CómemeTomas Barfod - Salton Sea - Friends Of FriendsDJ Nature - Return Of The Savage - Golf ChannelBola - Volume 7 - Awesome Tapes From AfricaTotally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs – Trouble - PolydorPachanga Boys - We Are Really Sorry - Hippie DanceHot Chip - In Our Heads - DominoLiars - WIXIW - MuteI:Cube - "M" Megamix - VersatileJanja Nabay & The Bubu Gang - En Yay Sah - Luaka Bop
Other songs I loved in 2012 and wanted to include in this show:The Backwoods - Cloud 9 (The Stallions Remix) - Ene/ESPMandog - Guitar Pop (Gonno Remix) - Room Full Of RecordsThe Time And Space Machine - Good Morning (Coyote Balearic Mix) - TirkJohn Talabot - When The Past Was Present (Pachanga Boys Purple Remix) - Permanent VacationBot'Ox - Basement Love (Pachanga Boys Remix) - I'm A ClicheBarnt - Geffen - CómemeDJ Kaos - Kosmische Ruckenwind (Quiet Village Remix) - Clone LoftKasper Bjørke - Bohemian Soul feat Laid Back (Still Going Remix) - HfnTV Baby - NY Is All Right (Dr Dunks Mix) - RongThe Mole - If I Had A Nickel - Maybe TomorrowHauschka - Radar (Michael Mayer Remix) - FatcatMagic Mountain High - Workshop xx - WorkshopTodd Terje - It's The Arps - Olsen/Smalltown SupersoundJoakim - Nothing Gold (Todd Terje Mix) - TigersushiPrins Thomas Orkester - Snake Music - Full PuppRune Lindbæk feat Kurt Maloo - Wonder (Rune Lindbæk & Øyvind Blikstad Mix) - Drum IslandAeroplane - Caramellas (Joakim Remix) - EskimoSaschienne - Unknown - KompaktJai Paul - Jasmine (Demo) - XLNick Nikolov - Come Down - Liebe DetailJimmy Edgar - This One's For The Children - HotflushWhoMadeWho - Never Had The Time - KompaktZombie Zombie - Rocket Number 9 - VersatileUltraista - Small Talk - Temporary Residence LimitedDaniel Avery - Need Electric - Phantasy SoundMark E - We Could Love - NeedwantOrthy - Emily (Baio Remix)Lauer - 70000ac - Running BackHundred In The Hands - Keep It Low (A JD Twitch Optimo mix) - WarpAM/TM - Back To Acid - Hector WorksFanatico - Tessio (KiNK's Raw Dub) - WareYoung Marco - Darwin In Bahia - ESPMarcus Mixx - Special Creme - Unknown To The UnknownRecloose - Don't Get Me Wrong - Delusions Of GrandeurTNT Subhead - Ecstasy & Release - GroovementTrackman LaFonte & Bonquiqui - Pacific House - L.I.E.S.Mock & Toof - My Head - Tiny SticksB.D.I. - Paper Tears - Running BackSinkane - Runnin' (Daphni Mix) - Phonica RecordsRoisin Murphy - Simulation (Mano Le Tough Remix) - Permanent VacationLos Amigos Invisibles & Dimitri From Paris - Glad To Know You (Ray Mang's Flying Dub) - GommaPhreek Plus One - La Spirale (J's Loveboat Mix) - InternasjonalJV - EditChannel XXX - EditChannel Steve Reich - Nagoya Marimba (HNNY Edit) - No Rights ReservedAl Kent - Open Up Your Mind - KojakJ.T.C. - Beats In Space - Shaddock
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure if you've seen it separately al, but andy's personal overall top 20 suggests that the following are his top 7:01 Frank Ocean - Channel Orange05 Jessie Ware - Devotion06 Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream08 Robert Glasper Experiment - Black Radio10 THEESatisfaction - Awe Naturale12 Elle Varner - Perfectly Imperfect20 Georgia Anne Muldrow - Seeds― Tim F, Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tim F, Thursday, December 27, 2012 11:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Correct. The rest:
08 Brandy – Two Eleven09 Meshell Ndegeocello – Pour Une Âme Souveraine: A Dedication to Nina Simone10 Dwele – Greater Than One11 Cody ChesnuTT – Landing on a Hundred12 Melanie Fiona – MF Life13 Keyshia Cole – Woman to Woman14 SWV – I Missed Us15 Columbia Nights – Dawn | Dusk16 Nona Hendryx – Mutatis Mutandis17 R. Kelly – Write Me Back18 Leela James – Loving You More...In the Spirit of Etta James19 Vivian Green – The Green Room20 Anthony David – Love Out Loud
I don't go out of my way to play 18-20 but wouldn't switch stations on them.
Armor On would have made the feature if I had it covered in time. I'd probably place it between Ndegeocello and Dwele.
― Andy K, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
think this is mostly or all canadian stuff
http://silentshout.ca/2012/12/28/top-20-albums-of-2012/
― flopson, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
20. Daphni – JIAOLONG – Label19. Kashka – Vichada – Bandcamp18. Walter TV – Appetite17. Purity Ring – Shrines16. Karneef – In Error15. Man Made Hill – Intercourses14. Ghibli – Rare Pleasures13. Cabaal – Emanations12. Grimes – Visions11. Hot & Cold – Border Area10. You’ll Never Get to Heaven – S/T9. Mac DeMarco – Rock and Roll Night Club8. D’eon – LP7. Phèdre – Phèdre6. Kontravoid – Silent Visions5. Renny Wilson – “Sugarglider”4. Trust – TRST – Stream3. Blanche Blanche Blanche – Wink with Both Eyes2. Tenderness – The Axe is Ready at the Tree1. Femminielli – Double Invitation
― flopson, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
it was a cold year in canada
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
fuck it, y'all, my top 50:http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2012/12/my-top-50-albums-of-2012.htmlhttp://open.spotify.com/user/1219464571/playlist/5CPAoA5yF3Z6irLABBXIOm
1. Miguel - Kaleidoscope Dream2. Dead Sara - Dead Sara3. Future - Pluto4. Mark Lanegan Band - Blues Funeral5. Melanie Fiona - The MF Life 6. Rufus Wainwright - Out Of The Game7. Dwight Yoakam - 3 Pears8. Dev - The Night The Sun Came Up9. Meek Mill - Dreams And Nightmares10. Dinosaur Jr. - I Bet On Sky11. Bruno Mars - Unorthodox Jukebox12. Among Wolves - This Is A Wave Goodbye13. Dawn Richard - Armor On EP14. Lee Ranaldo - Between The Tides And Times15. The Water - Scandals And Animals16. Ichicuts - Filthy First Year17. Elle Varner - Perfectly Imperfect18. Jeremih - Late Nights With Jeremih19. ZZ Top - La Futura20. Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city21. War On Women - Improvised Weapons EP22. Keyshia Cole - Woman To Woman23. The Gaslight Anthem - Handwritten24. Farrah Abraham - My Teenage Dream Ended25. Mouse On Tha Track - Millionaire Dreamzzz26. Heartless Bastards - Arrow27. Ken Stringfellow - Danzig In The Moonlight28. Nas - Life Is Good29. Pink - The Truth About Love30. Say Anything - Anarchy, My Dear31. E-40 - The Block Brochure: Welcome to the Soil Parts 1, 2 & 332. Von Vargas - World Famous Lexington Market33. Gary B & The Notions - How Do We Explode34. Hammer No More The Fingers - Pink Worm EP 35. 2 Chainz - Based On A T.R.U. Story36. Gunplay - 601 & Snort37. Kalenna - Chamber of Diaries38. Eleni Mandell - I Can See The Future39. Tate Kobang – The Book of Joshua40. DDm - Winter And The Tinman's Heart EP41. Dave Fell – Baltimore Backlog41. Donald Fagen - Sunken Condos42. Little Feat - Rooster Rag43. Loudon Wainwright III - Older Than My Old Man Now44. Jumpcuts - Electrickery 45. Ne-Yo - R.E.D.47. Young Dro - Ralph Lauren Reefa48. Soundgarden - King Animal49. Sara Bareilles - Once Upon Another Time EP 50. Firewater - International Orange!
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
First time we share two items in the top ten...and, wow, Rufus Wainwright.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
oh we've def had 2 or more of the same albums in our top 10s before!
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
Terrorizer list. bit of stuff I've not seen in (m)any other polls, mainly in the middle section
50 Vision Of Disorder - The Cursed Remain Cursed49 Ides Of Gemini - Constantinople48 Latitudes - Individuation47 Black Shape Of Nexus - Negative Black46 Katatonia - Dead End Kings45 Amenra - Mass V44 Paradise Lost - Tragic Idol43 Orange Goblin - A Eulogy For The Damned42 Jess And The Ancient Ones - S/t41 A Forest Of Stars - A Shadowplay Of Yesterdays40 Nachtmystium - Silencing Machine39 Feed The Rhino - The Burning Sons38 Hooded Menace - Effigies Of Evil37 JK Flesh - Posthuman36 Woods Of Ypres - Woods 5: Grey Skies And Electric Light35 Unsane - Wreck34 Every Time I Die - Ex Lives33 Rush - Clockwork Angels32 Hexvessel - No Holier Temple31 Anaal Nathrakh - Vanitas30 Meshuggah - Koloss29 Enabler - All Hail The Void28 Ufomammut - ORO:Opus Alter/ORO: Opus Primum27 High On Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis26 Anathema - Weather Systems25 Eagle Twin - The Feather Tipped The Serpents Scale24 Wodensthrone - Curse23 Saint Vitus - Lillie: F-6522 Royal Thunder - CVI21 Satan's Wrath - Galloping Blasphemy20 Gallows - Gallows19 Dragged Into Sunlight - Widowmaker18 Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage17 The Chariot - One Wing16 Grand Magus - The Hunt15 Winterfylleth - The Threnody Of Triumph14 Black Breath - Sentenced To Life13 Gaza - No Absolutes In Human Suffering12 Enslaved - RIITIIR11 Pallbearer - Sorrow And Extinction10 Alcest - Les Voyages de l'Âme9 Killing Joke - MMXII8 Torche - Harmonicraft7 Napalm Death - Utilitarian6 Swans - The Seer5 Devin Townsend Project - Epicloud4 Neurosis - Honor Found In Decay3 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner2 Baroness - Yellow & Green1 Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 29 December 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see Lee getting love. He'll be in my top 50 too, whenever I publish it.
― Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 29 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Ironic to see Christian Mistress and the quintessentially metal Dawnbringer not make the list, but instead Katatonia, Jess & the Ancient Ones, Unsane, Rush, Hexvessel, Anathema, Alcest, Killing Joke, Torche, Swans, Baroness. All good albums, none remotely metal.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 29 December 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
not really sure how that's ironic
Terrorizer has never been at all gatekeeper-y wrt things having to 'sound metal' to qualify for inclusion
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 29 December 2012 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
i think Torche and Baroness are at least "remotely metal"
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Saturday, 29 December 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah fnb's comment is p hilar actually
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 29 December 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
Ironic to see Christian Mistress and the quintessentially metal Dawnbringer not make the list, but instead Gunplay, Little Big Town, Robert Glasper, Juju & Jordash, BJ the Chicago Kid, Big Baby Ghandi and Foxygen. All good albums, none remotely metal.
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 29 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
i think Big Baby Ghandi and Robert Glasper are at least "remotely metal"
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Saturday, 29 December 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Disco Naivete's album list (granted, DN makes no secret about operating within a very narrow scope)
01 Fiona Apple - The Idler Wheel02 Lana Del Rey - Born To Die03 Frank Ocean - channel ORANGE 04 Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city05 Cold Specks - I Predict A Graceful Expulsion06 Bat For Lashes - The Haunted Man07 Cat Power - Sun08 Jessie Ware - Devotion09 The xx - Coexist10 Grizzly Bear - Shields11 Clock Opera - Ways To Forget12 First Aid Kit - The Lion’s Roar13 How to Dress Well - Total Loss 14 Beach House - Bloom15 iamamiwhoami - kin16 Niki & the Dove - Instinct17 Chairlift - Something18 Grimes - Visions 19 Chromatics - Kill For Love20 Alt-J - An Awesome Wave 21 Marina & the Diamonds - Electra Heart22 El Perro Del Mar - Pale Fire 23 Porcelain Raft - Strange Weekend24 Bobby Womack - The Bravest Man In The Universe25 Dirty Projectors - Swing Lo Magellan26 Holy Other - Held27 Perfume Genius - Put Your Back N 2 It28 Lower Dens - Nootropics29 Kindness - World, You Need A Change Of Mind30 Taken By Trees - Other Worlds
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 29 December 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Is that narrow scope "Stereogum"
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
Terrorizer's slogan is "The World's Number 1 Extreme Metal Magazine." So when they drop the ball on awesome bands like Dawnbringer, one might assume they do so because they're not extreme metal. That's fine, but then nearly a quarter of their list isn't even metal. OMG I'm SO hilar! So okay, maybe they're looking to shift to Decibel territory to extreme music, which works with bands like Swans. I suppose you could say Alcest are extremely beautiful, as are Wild Nothing and Beach House.
― Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 29 December 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Or, like many people, they could think Dawnbringer are a bit shit.
― EZ Snappin, Saturday, 29 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
the Alcest record has blastbeats on it, come on now
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 29 December 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
it's so false it was probably endorsed by Eddie Trunk of 'That Remotely Metal Show'
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Saturday, 29 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
al are you not blurbing your tracks this year???????????
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
i blurbed them all in the genre lists!
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh right, word
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
can you post a list of your overall singles list for those of us that don't use spotify
i feel like i'd be bombing the thread if i c&p'd the whole 100 but it's here and there are also links to the genre lists within: http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2012/12/my-top-100-singles-of-2012.html
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
oh word... good list w/ the exception of your blasphemous embracing of driicky graham
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
lol i was starting to get disappointed about not taking any shit for ranking driicky over chief keef
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
Revolver Magazine Albums of 2012
1 Deftones - Koi No Yokan 2 Meshuggah- Koloss3 Soundgarden - King Animal 4 Baroness - Yellow & Green5 Gojira - L'Enfant Sauvage6 Pig Destroyer - Book Burner7 High On Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis8 Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind9 Lamb Of God - Resolution 10 Stone Sour - House of Gold & Bones Part 1
Rock Sound Albums 2012
50. "Maybe Today, Maybe Tomorrow" - We Are The Ocean49. "The Golden Age" - Your Demise48. "Daybreaker" - Architects47. "Astraea" - Rolo Tomassi46. "Lost Songs" - ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead45. "Sonic Boom Six" - Sonic Boom Six44. "Tycoon" - No Trigger43. "Gnosis" - Monuments42. "Weapons" - Lostprophets41. "Funeral Beach" - Blood Command40. "COLOURMEINKINDNESS" - Basement39. "The Front Bottoms" - The Front Bottoms38. "The 2nd Law" - Muse37. "Long Live The Struggle" - The King Blues36. "Uno!" - Green Day35. "Don't Panic" - All Time Low34. "Port Of Morrow" - The Shins33. "Collide With The Sky" - Pierce The Veil32. "Whitechapel" - Whitechapel31. "Slave To The Grave" - Emmure30. "Priorities" - Don Broco29. "The Parallax II: Future Sequence" - Between The Buried And Me28. "The Union Of Crowns" - Bury Tomorrow27. "Sentenced To Life" - Black Breath26. "No Gods" - Sharks25. "Dead Set On Living" - Cancer Bats24. "Honor Found In Decay" - Neurosis23. "Celebration Rock" - Japandroids22. "L'Enfant Sauvage" - Gojira21. "The Plot Against Common Sense" - Future Of The Left20. "Changing Tune" - Lower Than Atlantic19. "Ex Lives" - Every Time I Die18. "Harmonicraft" - Torche17. "Everything You Ever Loved" - Make Do And Mend16. "Floral Green" - Title Fight15. "A Flash Flood Of Colour" - Enter Shikari14. "Bones" - Young Guns13. "Atlas" - Parkway Drive12. "This Is The Six" - While She Sleeps11. "Yellow & Green" - Baroness10. "Handwritten" - Gaslight Anthem09. "Gallows" - Gallows08. "Exister" - Hot Water Music07. "Dead Silence" - Billy Talent06. "At Heart" - Miss May I05. "Koi No Yokan" - Deftones04. "Failed States" - Propagandhi03. "Get What You Give" - The Ghost Inside02. "All We Love We Leave Behind" - Converge01. "On The Impossible Past" - The Menzingers
― New Management, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
LA Times list hasn't been posted yet, has it
http://graphics.latimes.com/storyboard-times-music-staff-best-2012-list/ (also individual writer ballots in link)
1. Frank Ocean, “Channel Orange” (Def Jam) (62)2. Kendrick Lamar, “good kid, m.A.A.d. city” (Aftermath/Interscope) (43)3. Fiona Apple, “The Idler Wheel….” (Epic) (17)4. Dr. John, “Locked Down” (Nonesuch) (17)5. Japandroids, “Celebration Rock” (Polyvinyl) (16)6. Miguel, "Kaleidoscope Dream” (RCA) (15)7. Cat Power, “Sun” (Matador) (14)8. Andy Stott, “Luxury Problems” (Modern Love) (14)9. Swans, “The Seer” (Young God) (13)10. Alabama Shakes, “Boys & Girls” (ATO) (12)
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
I rather like driicky graham / don't hate me.
― Tim F, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
hate you, tim
― dead cera (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
it's totally one of the best radio rap productions of the year, and the rapping doesn't get in the way of it (possibly even helps, considering every time i've heard someone else rap on the beat it hasn't sounded as good) xpost
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, pretty much agree. still can't get over his name tho.
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
the song basically disappearing before he could even get to like Ca$h Out's level has probably fed some of my enthusiasm for it
― some dude, Saturday, 29 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
If anyone cares about my albums list (with dumb blurbs!), here it is: http://on.fb.me/10yKMnt
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 30 December 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://my2ndheartbeat.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/icare.jpg
― PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
thx some dude, xo
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
There's always some dude that cares, Johnny. Just remember that.
No one gives a shit about mine so I didn't bother.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
lol can i post it for you
― PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
Sure! Not enough Pinkish Black love on this thread.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
my albums list, sans blurbs (although i'd like to write some for at least the top 10):
http://grannykart.com/2012/11/05/jodys-top-30-of-2012/
― gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://lightbulbhead.tumblr.com/post/38479597599/2012-favorites (xp)
― PliesStripAThon5Jan20th@gmail.com (some dude), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
i keep forgetting about that new neneh cherry album.
― gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
That Moon Duo record was one of my last cuts, but I dropped it once I realized “Sleepwalkers” sounds like Zooropa-era U2 taking lots of acid and trying to play Adam Ant’s “Vive Le Rock” from memory without having heard it since 1985.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
you say that like it's a bad thing.
― gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
Not at all! But I docked them slightly because when I saw Adam Ant this fall his current version of "Vive Le Rock" sort of sounded the same way.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
In other words, those last few cuts were some arbitrary bullshit.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 30 December 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link
Ok that Moon Duo description makes me wish you wrote blurbs
― Y Kant Drugz Spell Kaballah (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:36 (eleven years ago) link
Am deeply saddened the Black Bananas album fell of your list, get bent
― Y Kant Drugz Spell Kaballah (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
i'm saddened too. i like that record. i'm so close to restoring it to the list.
― gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
black bananas is back.
― gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:49 (eleven years ago) link
So okay, maybe they're looking to shift to Decibel territory to extreme music, which works with bands like Swans.
no this stuff has been within their remit since literally their first issue
― Sounds like something Maria Carey would of rejected (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 30 December 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link
Yay! xp
― Y Kant Drugz Spell Kaballah (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 30 December 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
my albums list:
http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2012/12/28/for-the-last-time/
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
i kind of want to have an extended discussion of cloud nothings vs. the men but i'm probably the only one
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Sunday, 30 December 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
Does this mean you had a change of heart on the Mountain Goats record?
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I outright disliked it -- it merely wasn't the keeper that last year's was.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Singles: http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/best-songs-2012/
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
i would participate in a cloud nothings vs. the men discussion
open your heart was a nice punch to the gut the first several times i heard it, but it really faded for me. a few great songs on there, but overall it's a little bit tuneless in parts, and there's something about the production that leaves me cold. didn't end up cracking my top 50 or so.
attack on memory, on the other hand, has gotten good press since its release, and done well on these lists, but i still feel that it's underrated. just a terrific rock record that sounds as good (or better) every time i revisit it and scratches my Nirvana-fan itch (as did that Metz album). it's a top 15 of the year album, i say.
― alpine static, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
that's 4xp, obvs
― alpine static, Monday, 31 December 2012 11:25 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.tropicalbass.com/2012/12/top-of-the-trops-best-of-tropical-bass-2012/
ANDRÉS:Top Albums/EPs:MKC – Caribbean SwaggaSonodo Desconocido – Trópico QuasarMaga Bo – Quilombo de FuturoCumba Mela – Remix Ep 1
Sonikgroove ft. Prince Osito – Better dan dem Remix EPKumbia Queers – Pecados TropicalesSo Shifty ft. Madera Limpia – Rumba EPSonido Guay Neñe – Copla Colectiva DigitalSuelta la voz – Copia Doble SystemaChico Trujillo – Gran PecadorPalenke Soultribe – Makako EPTropikore – Guarapo EPFrikstailers – Guacha EPSubatomic Soundsystem ft. Anthony B – Dem Cant stop we from Talkin EP
― curmudgeon, Monday, 31 December 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
xp having listened to both in the past two days (first time in a while for cloud nothings but i've been listening to open yr heart regularly since it came out) i find that the men scratch my 90s rock itch most effectively (metz do too to a lesser extent). i like the cloud nothings record, it's good, but there is such an audible joy in the performances on open yr heart and it's really wide open and un-self conscious about making a great record of guitar rock. attack on memory seems a little sullen and studied by comparison.
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
saw'em both at Pitchfork but The Men won me when they turned "Candy" into a Meat Puppets cowpunk jam.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
xpost i swear, i would write the exact opposite of this:
but there is such an audible joy in the performances on open yr heart and it's really wide open and un-self conscious about making a great record of guitar rock. attack on memory seems a little sullen and studied by comparison.
to me, it's Cloud Nothings that sounds joyous, or at least authentically cathartic. more feeling, whatever that means. more un-self conscious. more free. and open yr heart sounds like a very clinical, calculated "we are a good guitar band with our best (read: most accessible) batch of songs and we'd better make a great guitar record" effort, but in overthinking it, they sucked much of the life out of it.
different strokes, eh
― alpine static, Monday, 31 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
indeed--i don't think there's anything on open your heart that's particularly accessible outside of turn it around, the title track, and candy. i do think the record is conscious in nodding at a variety of genres but nothing about the performances themselves comes off that way.
― an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 31 December 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
Angry Metal Guy weighs in with his Top 10(ish) of 2012.
#Ish: Vindicator // United We Fall#10: Wildernessking // The Writing of Gods in the Sand#9: Borknagar // Urd#8: Be’lakor // Of Breath and Bone #7: Ofermod // Thaumiel#6: Dodecahedron // Dodecahedron#5: Anathema // Weather Systems#4: The 11th Hour // Lacrima Mortis #3: Diablo Swing Orchestra // Pandora’s Piñata#2: Sophicide // Perdition of the Sublime#1: Sabaton // Carolus Rex
Honorable Mentions:
Sigh // In SomniphobiaArjen Anthony Lucassen // Lost in the New RealVintersorg // OrkanBlood Mortized // Keys to a Black HeartKing of Asgard // …To NorthHail Spirit Noir // PneumaSylosis // Monolith
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.datpiff.com/top2012
DatPiff.com's top 50 mixtapes of the year. not ordered by popularity, although download stats are shown so it's a good indicator of what was big.
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
my lists: http://alexmacpherson.tumblr.com/post/38945575458/end-of-year-list-dump-2012
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
aw lex adopted my "bonus bile" addendum
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
I did like the Pinkish Black. All the enthusiasm had me revisiting it and it moved up to my top 40 and #6 in heavy rock. My copy was tagged as "grave wave," which many won't like but it's kind of a catchy tag. I could see them getting a lot more attention this year.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
xp is it yours? i didn't know! that was a last-min addition thanks to alfred trolling me on twitter, "bonus bile" just popped into my head
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
Alright! Glad you dug the Pinkish Black. The just finished recording the next album and with Century Media on board it should get them more attention. They also plan to tour the hell out of it and have really rounded into a solid live act.
xpost to fastnbulbous
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it was the phrase i came up with for the "worst" lists at the bottom of my genre lists this year xp
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha i only read those y'day, after i'd put mine up, and managed not to clock the same phrase at all
i have been very hungover and vacant this week admittedly
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
lol well it's all good, no copyright on it or anything
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
2012 TOP TEN CD's(From Latin Beat Magazine Online Contributors) By Vicki Solá 1. Eddie Montalvo / Desde Nueva York a Puerto Rico / Marcha2. Luis Mangual y su Conjunto Mangual / Sabor y Swing / Lujoso 3. Ray Castro's Conjunto Clasico / Este Es Mi Conjunto / RC Enter.4. Bobby Sanabria Big Band / Multiverse / Jazzheads5 Ralph Irizarry & Los Viejos De La Salsa / Viejos Pero Sabrosos / BKS6. CharanSalsa / Pa' Mi Pueblo / CharanSalsa7. Ralphy Santi / Homenaje Al Bailador / Muziq8. Don Sonero / La Verdadera Escena / Don Sonero Music9. Chico Álvarez & Palomonte Afro-Cuban Big Band / El Montunero / Mafimba 10. La Guatekera Orquesta / Going Back to the Old School Salsa / Old School Salsa
By Nelson Rodriguez 1. Eddie Montalvo / Desde Nueva York A Puerto Rico / Marcha2. Dorance Lorza y Sexteto Café / Rumbero De Corazon / DLR3. Ralph Irizarry y Los Viejos de la Salsa / Viejos Pero Sabrosos / BKS4. Chico Alvarez & Palomonte Afro Cuban Big Band / El Montunero / Mafimba5. La Excelencia / Ecos Del Barrio / Handle With Care6. Pacific Mambo Orchestra / PMO / PMO7. Tromboranga- Tromboranga Salsa Dura / Bloque 538. Marlow Rosado Y La Riqueña / Retro / Pink Chaos9. Wilson 'Chembo' Corniel / Afro Blue Monk / American Showplace Music10. Ralphy Santi / Homenaje A Los Bailadores / Muzik
By Elmer Gonzalez 1. Various Artists /La Música De Puerto Rico: Raíces Y Evolución (Box Set) - Casabe Records2. Andy Montañez /Sueño / Morocho Records3. Cheo Feliciano & Rubén Blades / Eba Say Ajá / Ariel Rivas Music4. Sonora Latina / Con Clave Para Bailar / Sedajazz Records5. Septeto Santiaguero / Vamos Pa' La Fiesta / Picap Records6. Ralph Irizarry y Los Viejos de la Salsa / Viejos Pero Sabrosos / BKS7. Eddie Montalvo / Desde Nueva York A Puerto Rico / Marcha8. Tromboranga Orquesta / Tromboranga Salsa Dura / Bloque 539. Tito García / Pa' Gozar / T&T Productions10. Wilson Chembo Corniel / Afro Blue Monk / American Showplace Music
By Luis Tamargo 1. Manuel Galbán / Blue Cha Cha / Concord Picante2. Carlos Varela / No es el Fin / Graffiti3. Various Artists / Chico y Rita Soundtrack / Calle 544. Ninety Miles / Live at Cubadisc / Concord Picante5. Elio Villafranca & Arturo Stable / Dos y Mas / Montéma6. Alfredo Rodríguez / Sounds of Space / Mack Avenue7. Clarise Assad / Home / Adventure8. Ricardo Alvarez & Cubanísimo / Marketing / Alvarez Music9. Waldemar Bastos / Classics of My Soul / Enja10. José Lugo & Guasábara Combo / Poetic Justice / GC Music
By Guido Herrera 1. Eddie Montalvo / Desde Nueva York a Puerto Rico / Marcha2. Cheo Feliciano / Ruben Blades / Eba Say Aja / Ariel Rivas Music3. Bobby Sanabria / Multiverse / Jazzheads4. Septeto Santiaguero / Vamos Pa' La Fiesta / Picap5. Jose Lugo & Guasabara Combo / Poetic Justice / En Grande Music6. Varios Artistas / Homenaje a Tite Curet: Sono Sono / Banco Popular7. Ralph Irizarry y Los Viejos de la Salsa / Viejos Pero Sabrosos / BKS 8. Papo Vazques & Mighty Pirates Troubadors / Oasis / Picaro Records9. Wilson "Chembo" Corniel / Afro Blue Monk / American Showplace Music10. Candi Sosa & Victor Cegarra / Boleros Meets Jazz / Candi Sosa Music
By Rudy Mangual 1. Eddie Montalvo / Desde Nueva York a Puerto Rico / Marcha2. Jose Lugo & Guasabara Combo / Poetic Justice / En Grande Music3. Septeto Santiaguero / Vamos Pa' La Fiesta / Picap Records4. Papo Vazques & Mighty Pirates Troubadors / Oasis / Picaro Records5. Ralph Irizarry y Los Viejos de la Salsa / Viejos Pero Sabrosos / BKS Records6. Henry Cole & The Afrobeat Collective / Roots Before Branches / Henry Cole7. Jaime Dubberly and Orquesta Dharma / Road Warrior / Higher Truth8. Bloque 53 / Tumba Pachunga / Bloque 539. Chembo Corniel Quintet / Afro Blue Monk / American Showplace Music10.Chico Alvarez & Palomonte Afro Cuban Big Band / El Montunero / Mafimba
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Links to my lists on spotify:Best World Music 2012Best Metal 2012Top 50 Albums 2012
― Mordy, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
My top 100: http://1000timesyes.tumblr.com/post/39482969118/cleaning-out-my-closet-the-top-100-records-of-2012
― finally rich, fun-packed, fulfilling (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
Mine: XHUXK'S TOP 100+ ALBUMS OF 2010!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
if we've decided the dev album counts as 2012 i might have to rearrange my entire list, it'd be top 10 easy
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
ludicrous that "breathe" and "kiss my lips" were not ubiquitous chart-topping singles (or indeed singles at all)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
well if it was only released in yugoslavia or wherever before this year then it counts
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
wiki lists Australia, Germany, UK, Poland and Australia as having Sep 2011 release dates (w/ a UK re-release at the time of the US release). i didn't even have any idea a year ago that the album had been released anywhere, though, so it's all new to me.
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
as far as i can tell the track listing to the 2012 release is completely different (and much worse, with like flo rida verses and enrique iglesias collabs and no "take her from you")
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
in a way that strengthens my conviction that the version i'm listening to (which has no Flo Rida on it btw) is a 2012 album
― some dude, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
U.S. release was this year, and I didn't hear the entire album until 2012, so that's how I counted it. But right, like I say on that other thread, the import (which I've never actually seen a copy of) had a way better track listing; there's really no comparison. They even dropped "Bass Down Low" in the last week before U.S. release (I've got a CD advance of the album with it still on), which really pissed me off. I still liked, and played, the U.S. version more than any other album this year, but I would've given the non-U.S. way more P&J points, had I heard it in 2011. (Which is why I've said my two favorite albums of the year -- Dev and Taylor Swift, her worst album as far as I'm concerned -- were also the two albums that disappointed me the most. That's never happened before.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
Put "Take Her From You" (also left off the U.S. version) and "In My Trunk" on my singles ballot, too.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
And I suppose partly my topping my album list with Dev is a stand-in for the better version(s); it's kind of hard to say. But I did dock it P&J points accordingly.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
I downloaded the Euro version a while ago, and it really is terrific.
BTW, I'm currently listening to the Ruben Blades/Cheo Feliciano album on a bunch of those Latin lists - it's not a duets album, they cover each other's songs, and it's really good. No horns, which is kinda disappointing, but excellent vibes (and I mean that in the literal sense that there's a guy playing vibes, not in the hippie sense).
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
the only version in UK Spotify or iTunes is the 2012 release
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Unofficial Aquarius top 10 (I aggregated the individual lists):
01. Windhand (Forcefield)02. Thee Oh Sees - Putrifiers II EP 03. Kandodo (Thrill Jockey)04. Golden Void (Thrill Jockey)05. Aluk Todolo - Occult Rock (The Ajna Offensive)06. Beak - >> (Invada) 07. Goat - World Music (Rocket)08. Grass Widow - Internal Logic (HLR)09. Cat Power - Sun 10. Tie: Admiral Sir Cloudsley Shovell, Actress, Frankie Rose, Mrs. Magician, Small Cuel Party, Terrence Dixon, Witchcraft
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
I've ignored this but may give it a try thanks to your comment. I don't understand their waiting until 2013 to collaborate. I love Cheo Feliciano, but he is so far past his prime that I am skeptical. The emphasis on vibes is probably a nod to Cheo in particular, since so many of his key recordings were vibes based (first with Joe Cuba and then solo, especially on Cheo).
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
My Top 10. I used to dig Picasso; now I like the Norwegian guy who dances funny.
― clemenza, Thursday, 3 January 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.offbeat.com/2013/01/01/offbeat-top-50-louisiana-albums-2012/
Dr. John, Lost Bayou Ramblers, Cory Ledet, Soul Rebels and more
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 3 January 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
ha! cool list, clemenza
― x-gau, uncut gau, The Bomb! (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 3 January 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2013/01/wfmu-staff-2012-year-end-lists-2.html
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 January 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
clemenza you have drawn an important link between terje & hot butter imo
― ogmor, Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
lol yes
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks--the sore back and failing eyesight are a small price to pay for such important flashes of insight.
― clemenza, Friday, 4 January 2013 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
it's also got a similar nordic chug to tommy seebach's bubble sex
― ogmor, Friday, 4 January 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
Here's mine:
http://2012yearinmusic.blogspot.com/
― o. nate, Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://salsa.blog.lemonde.fr/2013/01/02/musique-latine-les-meilleurs-albums-de-2012/#xtor=RSS-32280322
French site lists fave Latin salsa, latin-jazz, and timba
― curmudgeon, Monday, 7 January 2013 06:19 (eleven years ago) link
website that sells cds and employs some critics; with their 2012 best salsa music list:
http://www.descarga.com/cgi-bin/db/best_of_2012
― curmudgeon, Monday, 7 January 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
My favourite 100 albums of 2012.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 7 January 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Brainwashed.comTop 100 albums, top singles/EPs, reissues, Lifetime achievement, Worst albums, etc.
(with comments from myself & others therein)
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9534:2012-readers-poll-the-results&catid=80:annual-readers-polls&Itemid=97
― ilxor, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
brainwashed readers have better taste than their obnoxious writers, apparently
― beard papa, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
bleep and phonica, streamable. sweet.
https://bleep.com/stream/100+tracks+2012www.phonicarecords.com/top-records/51/all/40
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:23 (eleven years ago) link
edit: http://www.phonicarecords.com/top-records/51/all
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:24 (eleven years ago) link
The excellent Russian site Afisha has a bunch of year end polls and lists for anyone wanting to know what the fashionable kids of Moscow are listening to (it's Frank Ocean).
Channel Orange was album of the year and Ivan Dorn's Stytsamen was single of the year. Main album list is here:
http://www.afisha.ru/article/best2012_albums/
Electronic, metal, jazz, world and classical are here:
http://www.afisha.ru/article/best2012_outer_limits/
― Tullamorte Tullamore (ShariVari), Saturday, 12 January 2013 11:32 (eleven years ago) link
Will check! Here's my Nashville Scene ballot (posted as "Rank, Strangers! Part UN: The Reckoning, and a copious cornycopia of comments ("Pt. Dude: The Telling"), with country skewing toward indie folk-rock and "Americana" this year (some scorched earth surveys as well, like Todd Snider's Agnostic Hymns and Stoner Fables)=--all in bite-sized chunks; big bites, so eat like you mean it. http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com
― dow, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
Pazz & Jop comments, prob titled "I Only Come Here For The Music" (thanks, Don Williams) will be posted there next week.
― dow, Saturday, 12 January 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Freaky Trigger Top 41 Tracks:
1. Carly Rae Jepsen – Call Me Maybe2. Todd Terje – Inspector Norse3. Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together4. Underworld ft Dustbin Crew – And I Will Kiss/Caliban’s Dream5. Rudimental – Feel The Love6. Psy – Gangnam Style7. Little Mix – Wings8. Chairlift – I Belong In Your Arms=9. Nicki Minaj - Starships=9. Usher - Climax11. Solange - Losing You12. Plan B - ill Manors13. Jessie Ware - Wildest Moments14. Santigold - Disparate Youth15. Cher Lloyd - Want U Back16. Jessie Ware - 110%=17. Nicki Minaj ft 2 Chainz - Beez In The Trap=17. Icona Pop - I Love It19. Kylie - Timebomb20. Taylor Swift - I Knew You Were Trouble21. Cassie - King of Hearts22. D’Banj - Oliver Twist23. Miguel - Do You..24. Orange Caramel - Lipstick25. T-Ara - Lovey-Dovey26. Fuse ODG ft. Tiffany - Azonto27. Saint Etienne - Popular28. Royal-T ft. Ruby Lee Ryder - You’re Saved29. Miguel - Adorn30. Marina & The Diamonds - Primadonna31. Dawn Richard - Pretty Wicked Things32. Grimes - Genesis=33. Dev - Take Her From You=33. Alunageorge - You Know You Like It34. Blur - Under The Westway35. Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You36. Le1f - Wut37. Tame Impala - Elephant38. Taylor Swift - Begin Again=40. Nicki Minaj - Stupid Hoe=40. Angel Haze - New York
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 January 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
Festive Fifty 2012 - (previously John Peel's Festive Fifty) as voted for by listeners of Dandelion Radio:
1 Savages - Husband2 The Chasms - Death's Pony3 Allo Darlin' - Capricornia4 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - We Drift Like Worried Fire5 The Lovely Eggs - Allergie6 The Membranes - If You Enter The Arena, You Got To Be Prepared To Deal With The Lions7 Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Mladic8 Tender Trap - MBV9 Vert:x - Full Fathom Five10 Allo Darlin' - Tallula11 Django Django - Defaut12 Pussy Riot - Putin Has Pissed Himself13 The Lovely Eggs - Food14 The Wedding Present - End Credits15 The Chasms - Der Eingriff Schulze16 Red Cosmos - I Am The Local DJ17 Shrag - Devastating Bones18 Atoms For Peace - Default19 Hammock - Ten Thousand Years Won't Save Your Life20 Alisia Casper - Unfire21 Big Joan - Beautiful Idea22 Blue Giant Zeta Puppies - The Wild Ride of Ichabod Crane23 Christ - Zeroth Law24 Flies On You - Shipmanesque25 Human Don't Be Angry - Monologue: River26 The Dead Kennedys - California Uber Alles (12-inch Plastic Toys remix)27 Lord Numb - Zombie28 Veronica Falls - My Heart Beats29 3rd International - Chug This30 Deep Time - Clouds31 Future of the Left - Robocop 4 (**** Off Robocop)32 Grimes - Oblivion33 Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built34 Lulubelle III - Frankie35 M.J.Hibbett & The Validators - A Little Bit36 Public Image Ltd - Lollipop Opera37 Tame Impala - Elephant38 The Horn The Hunt - Gold39 The Magnetic Fields - Andrew In Drag40 Yva Las Vegass - Crack Whore41 The Phantom Light - The Greater Picture42 Alt-J - Fitzpleasure43 Cate Le Bon - Puts Me To Work44 Goat - Goathead45 Martha - 1978, Smiling Politely46 Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Walk Like A Giant47 Standard Fare - Older Women48 Forkeyes - Fell Off The Penalty Spotty Spot49 Thee Oh Sees - Lupine Dominus50 Guided By Voices - Class Clown Spots A UFO
― Effing Baby, Saturday, 12 January 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
the membranes? crikey
― clive mendonca's big soccer (NickB), Saturday, 12 January 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
Xgau: Neil Young 's Americana.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Slicing Up Eyeballs Readers Poll
10. VCMG, Ssss09. Public Image Ltd., This is PiL08. Killing Joke, MMXII07. Dinosaur Jr, I Bet On Sky06. Ultravox, Brilliant05. The Fixx, Beautiful Friction04. Pet Shop Boys, Elysium03. Swans, The Seer02. Dead Can Dance, Anastasis01. Bob Mould, Silver Age
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm, I wonder what age the readers of Slicing Up Eyeballs are.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Cumulatively?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
Slicing Up Eyeballs needs to hear the Lee Ranaldo solo record which is really excellent.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I wanna see their top 50. It's weird enough listening to The Fixx in 2013, but I learned there were also new albums by Men Without Hats and Saga! Anyone remember "On The Loose"?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 05:46 (eleven years ago) link
Those Ultravox and Killing Joke albums are both pretty good.
― glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
The KJ made a decent showing in overall polls. I listened to Ultravox once yesterday, need to hear again. I didn't like the PiL or Dead Can Dance much.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 13:20 (eleven years ago) link
Levene/Wobble album was slept on
― Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
The Men Without Hats album is one decent song played over and over and over and over again
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
Is that song Safety Dance?
― Moodles, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
no
― DJP, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
Top 10 today in Metal Poll 2012 - The Countdown
― Metal Poll Countdown FINISHES TODAY! (ɷ), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
Anyone remember "On The Loose"?
Of course! Part of that whole Canadian wave that was huge on rock radio in the early '80s (at least in western NY, where I was a young teen). Loverboy, Triumph, Saga, Red Rider, Aldo Nova -- and Rush towering over all of them.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
My ILX albums ballot--which, beyond the quality control of Pazz and Nash Scene Top Tens, now incl Tempest (like most of the music, less of the words, though he does still know how to strike a effective pose, and main thing is: he's really into pre-emptive strikes vs. Time and Ol' Lady-with-a-rolling-pin Muse' also a flesh 'n' blood ol' lady, sounds like). Death Grips, Rufus Wainwright, The xx all offer albums that are only about half good, but their goodies can satisfy in ways that notning else quite did in '12, which is the main criterion for Top Tens as well, so why not in a Top However Many This Is:Best Coast - The Only PlaceBob Dylan - TempestCat Power - SunCorin Tucker Band - Kill My BluesCraig Finn - Clear Heart Full EyesDirty Projectors - Swing Lo MagellanDeath Grips - The Money StoreDeath Grips - No Love Deep WebDwight Yoakam - 3 PearsFiona Apple - The Idler Wheel...Giant Giant Sand - TucsonJustin Townes Earle - Nothing's Going To Change The Way You Feel About Me NowKelly Hogan - I Like to Keep Myself in PainNeil Young & Crazy Horse - AmericanaNeil Young & Crazy Horse - Psychedelic PillNeneh Cherry & The Thing - The Cherry ThingThe Mountain Goats - Transcendental YouthThe xx - CoexistRufus Wainwright - Out Of The GameSantigold - Master Of My Make Believe
― dow, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
cool to see someone else w/ the Yoakam and Wainwright on their list!
― some dude, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Not that others don't have soft spots, but nothing that makes them any of them less than keepers
― dow, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
clemenza: I love your top 10, only one I didn't quite get is number 2. It seems to me like you're praising the music and saying you don't really care about the lyrics. Why not list the Jamie XX and Gil Scott Heron version instead?
― Moka, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
Mimaroglu Music Sales / Keith Fullerton Whitman's (pre?)list of music concrete, modular synth, drone, noise, academic experimentalism and all points between and beyond can be found here - http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/best.php?year=2012 - in their words "far from "definitive" ; here's a simple, running tally of the titles that have been "rating" thusfar in 2012"
(So far, I've found a handful of things that seem, from the excerpts on the site, to be rather outstanding)
― neilasimpson, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/albums/2012/
Pazz & Jop thread, aka when is the official deadline for this thing?
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashville/from-eric-church-to-jamey-johnson-2012-found-country-music-in-a-holding-pattern-and-searching-for-role-models/Content?oid=3230383
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
Just came across this one:http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-4-49-1/
I actually found more interesting choices in the 99-50 page, especially a bunch of punk I haven't heard by Bite Back, Argy Bargy, White Lung and New War.
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-three-99-50/
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Don't forget Louder Than War numbers 200 - 101:
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-one-200-150/
http://louderthanwar.com/albums-of-the-year-2012-part-two-149-100/
Massive celebrations round Damon Albarn's house for reaching that coveted 197 spot.
― Effing Baby, Friday, 18 January 2013 11:38 (eleven years ago) link
Moka: thanks. I love the music on "Take Care," also the lyrics. They just happened to remind me, because of Rihanna's ordeals, of Faking It and that age-old debate about what makes something authentic. When she sings that line about being hurt, it may or may not resonate more because of biography, depending upon how important that is to you--and I was trying to contrast that with Drake, who may or may not be at the opposite end of the spectrum, depending etc. Maybe I garbled the point. I also missed (pointed out on the P&J thread) that that line goes back to an old Bobby Bland song. (I actually have the song on a greatest hits, but was never a big fan.) Ultimately, though, I do always place music ahead of lyrics.
― clemenza, Friday, 18 January 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
Jon Pareles's Top 10 w his comments, nice reading:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-pareless-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?src=un&feedurl=http%3A%2F%2Fjson8.nytimes.com%2Fpages%2Farts%2Fmusic%2Findex.jsonp
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago) link
Nate Chinen's Top 10---Truesdale's Newly Discovered Works of Gil Evans mostly sounded really good at Newport---not that this is all jazz:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/nate-chinens-top-10-albums-of-2012.html?_r=1&
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
Not jazz but oo-wee mama, oo-oo-wee:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/arts/music/jon-caramanicas-top-10-albums-of-2012.html
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
clem: "Take Care" didn't make my ballot because I included it last year but otherwise I agree: one of her (and his) few convincing performances.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry for spamming but any interested parties have ~8 hours to submit a ballot in that prince among critics' polls: the ILM end-of-year poll!
― LAST DAY to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/The-Dean-s-List-2012/ba-p/9707
And of course his address to the troops, from an "outlier" now (welcome)http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/May-the-Consensus-Have-Consequences/ba-p/9709
― dow, Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ him referring to "Dre's evolved jeep-beats" on the Kendrick album
Pink's The Truth About Love was on 10 Pazz & Jop ballots, which seems to have been driven primarily by Christgau's enthusiasm. her (far better) previous album Funhouse only got 1 vote in 2008 (wasn't me, which i regret -- at the time it was #14 on my list).
― the legend of bigger yansh (some dude), Saturday, 19 January 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
― alpine static, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 8:02 PM (8 months ago)
^^ was correct
― j., Monday, 12 August 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link