Which is WORSE: What Would You Say vs. Zombie

EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH EH

― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Zombie is totally worse than I remember it, but I just don't know if it beats DMB.

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

frat culture's way worse than mall culture.

― the kids of boris midney high (get bent), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is that what culture Zombie was?

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've never heard the DMB song and i'm not gonna listen to a DMB song.

voted "Zombie"

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

with their food and their court and their court and their stores

― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

No, Noodle. You really need to listen to the DMB song and even more importantly, you should watch the video.

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow...it's agonizing to do so, but this is one of the only instances when I'd ever say that something that DMB made is better than some other thing.

― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i assume the DMB song is about trying to pick up women or something, so it can't hope to attain the heights of crass inappropriateness that "Zombie" effortlessly soars above

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

legit difficult

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

the uploader has not made DMB available in my country :D

good work

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have zero recollection of this DMB song

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am doing neither:

― Mark G, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

dan what???

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

really? it's the one that broke them iirc

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

you were there. when the bear ate his head. he thought it was a candy.

― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh gosh his voice is really horrible isn't it?

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

it was the first single! before ants marching!

― 69, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

the video reminds me of the one Stewie made in Family Guy that time

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

also lets not forget -- harmonica solo by john popper

― 69, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

As a kid I actually liked "Zombie", but by the time "What Would You Say" came out I had been trained to recognise evil. DMB had zero cultural impact in Australia but I remember seeing this song at like 14 or whatever and thinking "What. No."

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah sorry "Zombie" is still way worse than this

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Zombie easily

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

like a zombie on a chain

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

the DMB is much more closely related to things I actually like than Dolores O'Riordan's honking

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man, between early '95 and '98 my local top 40 station would not stop playing this and "Crash," "Ants Marching," and the other one even though they weren't legit singles in that outdated sense of the word. I never heard another on the radio again after "Don't Drink The WaterEEYAYAYAYEYAYAYAHHH."

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

like a zombie on a chain

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:45 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

― some dude, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

anyway, intersting

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hey, I like "Zombie"! Though I was like 11 when it came out, which might be why it was easy for me to hear past Dolores O'Riordan's overweening, humorless sense of significance and enjoy the guitar crunch.

― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

much rather listen to zombie

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Another head hangs lowly,
Child is slowly taken.
And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

But you see, it's not me, it's not my family.
In your head, in your head they are fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are crying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou...

Another mother's breakin',
Heart is taking over.
When the vi'lence causes silence,
We must be mistaken.

It's the same old theme since nineteen-sixteen.
In your head, in your head they're still fighting,
With their tanks and their bombs,
And their bombs and their guns.
In your head, in your head, they are dying...

In your head, in your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie,
Hey, hey, hey. What's in your head,
In your head,
Zombie, zombie, zombie?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, oh, oh,
Oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, oh, ya, ya-a...

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would bet money that I had never heard this DMB song before in my life. The first song I ever remember hearing by them was "Ants Marching".

Please remember that when that first DMB song came out, I didn't have cable, I'd stopped listening to the radio, and I was almost exclusively buying breakbeat/drum n bass/trip-hop/Cure/Prince albums

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Where was Dolores from again?

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

TS: Don't Drink The Water vs Zombie for terrifying inhuman screeching

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is one of DMB's good singles! It's very catchy, some different parts going on, memorable lyrics, kind of dumb maybe but if they had stayed this consistently hooky instead of feeding the jam audience with uninspired instrumental sprawl they would be a lot more people's guilty pleasure IMO.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Where was Dolores from again?

somebody's rectal exam

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

dan you lived among tundra whites and went to an ivy! how is this possible!!

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is really hard

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

also dying at the wwys video, that shit is genuinely 10 years too late

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

anyway, intersting

― goole, Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:47 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bahahahaha <3

― 69, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still think Dolores' screeching is somewhat more pleasant than Alanis' - it's not so adenoidal, for one thing. And it was a neat sound effect for a few singles, anyway.

― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

dan you lived among tundra whites and went to an ivy! how is this possible!!

plz remember the tundra whites I most commonly hung out with; how many of them do you think would be playing DMB for me????????

also said Ivy was WAAAAAAAAAAAY more hung up on Rage Against The Machine than DMB; this is the school that gave G Love and Special Sauce the massive gasface in favor of a pickup band made up of choral singers (I've posted that story here before...)

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

g love and special suck amirite

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

for some reason i had the inclination that DMB might be huge in aus. i don't really know why. maybe because he's from SA (sorry if that's some kind of insult)? or maybe because his US fanbase and americans who are "really into" australia is a prob a close venn diagram.

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though? (I dunno, a lot of my "knowledge" of DMB is basically inferred from passing aside references)

The fact that a lot of South Africans move to Australia to let the white times roll doesn't really result in any kind of awareness of SA or SA-related cultural products here.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

let the white times roll

lol

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I beg you all, don't let your feelings about Dolores "Not Larry" O'Riordan color your judgement here. DMB is worse than ten Hitlers. Or at least some number of Hitlers greater than one.

― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

from the zombie cover youtube comments

The most tasteless and point-missing musical abomination in the history of the world, ever. They took a heartfelt Irish protest song from the previous year resenting the IRA's campaign of violence, and made a happy, boppy dance version of it.

Simply repugnant.

EalaDubh 4 months ago

at first i assumed they were talking about the cranberries original..

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads while they were on an architectural tour, which is worse than screeching "Hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, dou, dou, dou, dou, dou"

DMB is worse.

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahahahaha I had forgotten about that

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cranberries dumped sewage into peoples heads by making that song

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

metaphorical sewage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual sewage

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

DMB dumped its own sewage onto people's heads

by sewage you meant "every live album it's ever released"

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dolores sounds like a harpooned walrus. the DMB song has a pleasant sax solo.

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Didn't they get a lot of their fans through touring the college circuit though?

yes this is their origin story.

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3597180.stm

this is seriously one of the funniest stories ever

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

god if only we had an overzealous dept of homeland security back then

policing Charlottesville!

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

pleasant sax solo.

R.I.P. LeRoi Moore

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

DM himself is, i am assuming, not a white-times-roll kind of zud afrikan, to his credit.

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the one who died being the only one w/ shoes in that pic is very "barefoot paul on the cover of abbey road"

― hypnagoonic rock (some dude), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like "Zombie"! It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off but tbh I liked it more than anything off Mellon Collie except "1979" & I still feel that way. Plus "Zombie" is easy & fun to sing around the house & I do this a lot still.

Dave Matthews makes me feel old, b/c it got big w/ college students right when I graduated from college & I could not get the appeal.

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

The dude on the far right excepted, these are the most out of shape guys under forty to hit multiplatinum in the last twenty years

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

DMB song is pleasantish-enough light rock imo. Cranberries, although I championed their first album, exaggerates all the worst qualities of Dolores' vocal quirks and mawkish poetry about "big issues."

― On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was obvious at the time that it was just a Smashing Pumpkins rip-off

yeah see this wasn't going to make it any more endearing to me

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

DMB song is pleasantish-enough light rock imo.

this might be true except the lyrics are not just bad, they are offensively stupid

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

And the violence caused such silence,
Who are we mistaken?

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ ESOL student

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm sure the lyrics are better in the original gaelic

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

what would YOU say?

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

does Zombie even have lyrics? all I know is "zahm beh eh eh eh" etc & the chung chung chung chung chung riff

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

has everyone bagging on "Zombie" heard "Bosnia", because that will blow your mind if you haven't heard it

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was gonna suggest the John Lennon one as their peak

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i would rather hear cranberries than dmb

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll prob take dolores's po-faced inarticulate nonsense over dave's breezy faux-wise nonsense

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

they each deserve separate singles polls imo

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

lyrics are not just bad, they are offensively stupid

I've heard that DMB song a handful of times, just relistened five minutes ago to make sure I knew which song it was, and I still don't remember what the lyrics are. Maybe I just block DMB out like bad TV commercials.

― On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

as far as cranberries hits go, i'd rather hear "zombie" than "free to decide" or "ode to my family"

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE DOING LINES: DON'T DO IT

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd rather be kicked in the shin than in the balls but

― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxpost "Free to Decide" was objectively awful so not sure that's a meaningful statement.

Does anyone prefer "Zombie" to the first album? Anyone?

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

MOM IT'S MY BIRTHDAY

only lyrics i know, apart from the title

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Don't Drink The Water" is one of the most hilarious songs I know, though.

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know the lyrics on "Salvation" are hamfisted, but musically it fits happily in the "Crazy Horses"/Rocket From The Crypt continuum and I have no beef with hearing it anytime.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

When played live, "Don't Drink the Water" is often preceded by a spacey intro that features Matthews' famous screams and comes to a loud climax before slowing back down into the beginning of the song. The song itself is played at a much more upbeat tempo that differs greatly from the much slower paced one featured on the album.

DONT DRINK THE WATER
THERE'S BLOOD IN THE WATER

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

TV On The Radio should cover "Don't Drink The Water"

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol "free to decide"

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

based on the news story above, "blood" is not the main problem with "the water"

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, heard "Free to Decide" at the grocery store the other night, would take it above "Zombie" or "Salvation" easily. "Linger" and "Dreams" are quite lovely though.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Did you think "I'm not so suicidal anymore"?

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was the fearful night of December 8th.
He was returning home from the studio late.
He had perseptively known that it wouldn't be nice.
Because in 1980, he paid the price

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

With a Smith & Wesson 38,
John Lennon's life was no longer a debate.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

did not know Weird Al had written a Lennon song

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

You must have nothing more with your time to do
There's a war in Russia...and Sarejevo, too

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

With a Smith & Wesson 38,
John Lennon's life was no longer a debate.

All time.

― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

(high quality)

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

you would not think "i'm not so suicidal anymore" would be such a laugh riot of a line and yet

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

He had perseptively known that it wouldn't be nice.

Haha, love that lyric

― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

You must have nothing more with your time to do
There's a war in Russia...and Sarejevo, too
I hope the Russians love their children too

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

. . . lysol douche

― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

MOM IT'S MY BIRTHDAY

only lyrics i know, apart from the title

And "monkey on a string." Okay, I just read the lyrics to What Would You Say. They just seem like a bunch of non sequiturs strung together. Yeah, they're stupid, but they're delivered in a marble-mouth style where I don't immediately discern their stupidity (and I'm never going to hear the song enough times for them to sink in.)

― On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

an ilx classic

This is the thread where we write lyrics to songs by The Cranberries about the death of pop stars

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

It was an unholy day in Spring,
Nobody had suspected a thing,
Although, the pope had been sick for many days,
He appeared at windows, his eyes were glazed

He prayed alot, mostly to god
But he was old, like Paul Weller, a mod
He played soccer, in his youth, in goals,
But he could not save himself, the bell tolled

Pope John Paul, why did you die
You were head of the catholic church
and now a guy
who is a nazi is
what a sad and sorry and sickening occurrence
what a sad and sorry and sickening occurrence

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:43 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

You wanted to station agents on his bumpers and sideboards. He refused. Do you know why I think he refused? I think he refused because he had a death wish. He talked all the time about being assassinated. His favorite poem was 'I Have a Rendezvous with Death'... which is not a good poem. I think he wanted to die. He had perceptively known that it wouldn't be nice. Because in 1963, he paid the price. But what do you think?

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

hoo lord i had never heard 'bosnia'

― goole, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

who is a nazi is

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE DOING LINES: DON'T DO IT

More effective than NA, imo.

― Soggy Cheeseburgers (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

AHAHAHA that Cranberries lyrics thread was one of the earliest threads I found as an ilm lurker. I'm losing my shit all over again!

― On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

You must have nothing more with your time to do
There's a war in Russia...and Sarejevo, too
I hope the Russians love their children too

Video gaaaaaaames

― butvi wouls (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 17:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shit, I only knew the Cranberries' radio singles. I guess that's just as well - compared to the above, "Zombie" now seems like a paragon of restraint.

― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i kind of love "zombie", the guitars, the blissed-out drift, dolores' vocals, the soaring chorus. the words are absolutely hideous, should be unforgivable, but i don't care much about them for some reason. i find it easy enough to tune the verses out and enjoy singing along w the wonderfully ridiculous chorus.

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

"what would you say", otoh, is completely boring and awful. no riveting chorus, no ocean guitars, just bad unfunky funk.

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Zombie is inexcusable but my god "What Would You Say" is so atrocious and such a relic of an awful time for commercial rock/radio music it's mesmerizing. A masterpiece of horribleness.

― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I LOVE Zombie now because it is fun to shout "With their TANKS and their BOMBS and their BOMBS and their GOOONS".

― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I agree but sing it as "with their guns & their bombs & their bombs & their bombs & their bombs & their bombs" until I get tired, which is usually a long time

― Euler, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

The list of '90s hits that I hated then and still hate now is disturbingly short.

― da croupier, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd probably bop along happily to an instrumental version of that DMB song, which I hadn't heard til today

everything about "Zombie" makes me angry

― tempestuous alaskan nites! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's supposed to -- it's about war!

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

A girl in my high school did a cover that was all like:

He's a head in a box
In a box where he talks
Jambi, Jambi, Jambi-i-i

― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

like every other DMB song, if this song just happened to start playing i'd ignore it and go about my business. if i'm the wrong mood or having a bad day, though, overhearing "zombie" will definitely make my mood even worse. so "zombie."

― kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I actually like Zombie alright, catchy chorus. Reminds me of Siouxsie.

― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't know what the lyrics are, or what the verse sounds like though.

― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's good to know people are still thinking about how DMB is awful. Never surrender.

― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anything > DMB

― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

there are DMB songs i'm okay with. this isn't one of them.

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

DMB sounds best with the bass turned all the way down and the treble up a bit; really brings out those snare pops and twanngggg guitar

― deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

You know what, both of these songs are fun to sang.

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Both of these songs are unquestionably terrible...but I still love them? I kinda listen to Alternative Nation anthems a lot. They overrun my critical faculties with their tanks & their bombs & their bombs & their guns. '90s teenagerdom was a blessing and a curse.

― Henry David Thorough (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 23 March 2012 04:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

35 americans ?

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.
least bad & hated Dave Matthews Band single

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

35 americans can't be wrong

― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Do you guys hate Zombie so much because you wanted fighting to continue in Northern Ireland? Because the way I remember it was this:

Dolores and them are like "it's been the same old thing since 1918!"
The world's like "oh my god, there's Troubles?"
And NRA's like "naw, it's cool. we'll shut it down."

― beachville, Saturday, 24 March 2012 10:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i am an american, and i voted dave matthews

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would have voted for dave matthews just because zombie is at least in the larger sense part of uk post punk

― konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

it must have been terrible for dolores living somewhere where its all guns and bombs... oh wait

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dumbed down early U2 anthem with Sinead replacing Bono >>>> prog Hootie

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

On 18 July 1994, O'Riordan married Don Burton, the former tour manager of Duran Duran. Their first child, Taylor Baxter, was born on 23 November. Molly Leigh was born on 27 January 2001, and Dakota Rain on 10 April 2005.[citation needed]

In 1998, she bought a 61 hectare (150 acre) stud farm, called Riversfield Stud, located in Kilmallock, County Limerick. She lived there for six years before selling it in 2004.[10]

In 2006, O'Riordan was listed among the ten richest women in Ireland.[11]

O'Riordan lived in Howth, County Dublin with her husband and their three children. The family once divided their time between homes in Dublin and a log cabin located in Buckhorn, Ontario, Canada that was bought in 1994.[12][13] In 2009, her family moved full time to their home in Buckhorn.[14]

Although raised as a Roman Catholic, O'Riordan no longer practices. She identifies as an unconventional (but still religious) Christian. She is also an admirer of the late Pope John Paul II. After meeting him inside Vatican City, O'Riordan remarked: "[He] was lovely, very saintly. I was mad about him. I thought he really cared for the poor and he loved to meet the people. I saw him when he came to Limerick, when I was a kid. So it was pretty mindblowing to take my mum out to meet him."[15]

O'Riordan has also stated that she is pro-life, saying:"I am in no position to judge other women, you know. But I mean, why did she get pregnant? It's not good for women to go through the procedure [abortion] and have something living sucked out of their bodies. It belittles women. Even though some women say, 'Oh, I don't mind to have one,' every time a woman has an abortion, it just crushes her self-esteem smaller and smaller and smaller."[16]

― beachville, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I loved both of these songs when I was a kid. I grew way way WAY out of DMB, and now I only 'like' Zombie.

So....write-in vote for "Tiptoe through the Tulips".

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Admittedly the Sinead comparison is p outlandish; I probably shouldve qualified that comparison with another 'dumbed down' xxp

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

is don burton american? otherwise i have no idea how two anglophone non-yanks have given a child the name "dakota rain"

― goole, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've heard both of these songs recently -- I think I actually prefer "What Would You Say."

― Cuba Pudding, Jr. (jaymc), Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

cranberries just put a new album out last month, according to spotify. i haven't listened to it yet but i'm curious to see where dolores is at lyric-wise these days.

― techno pink (reddening), Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably graduated to the cat sat on the mat lyrics

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

so she'd have studied under the tutelage of Peavy Wagner?

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

even mcgonigal could've done a better job

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

amazing poll... honestly I couldnt choose. Dave-bro is lamebro but that is one of his least horrible songs IMO, compared to another song that sucks in a totally different way and IIRC doesnt sound like any other cranberries song, obviously only issued as a single because it has loud guitars and the same chords as "Violet" and "Disarm."

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

even it's 'loudness' is polite though. but it did fool the populace well enough. I remember a lot of people who would sit in the Blockbuster Music (lol music stores w/ listening booths) listening to the album and then ask the salesmen "Are there any cd-singles with just Zombie", dismayed at the quiet 'other' songs even though ostensibly they were the same types of songs on the surface.

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

― One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was an "mtv unplugged" version with a more suitable arrangement

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

DO-OVER

― One of my faverit moive ever!!!! XD (Deric W. Haircare), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxpost I woulda still voted Cranberries tbh. I loved the hell out of Dave Matthews when I was a kid, but college dudes ruined them for me (well that and me hearing other music and realizing how boring DMB was).

I remember Cranberries album tracks being pretty pleasant too, even if I never felt compelled to listen to any of them in their entirety.

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Salvation" was the nightmare the cranberries were meant to deliver... "Zombie" isn't exactly a nightmare.. just kinda mediocre.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

was Salvation the really up-tempo number that sounded like a bizarro KayBee Toys jingle?

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha that sounds accurate

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

they played it at a VMAs and I remember the clip used in retrospectives was the "ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha ah-haha" part sang really out of key and the singer failing to encourage a crowd singalong.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean "out of tune" lol

― billstevejim, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha that's the one I was thinking of.

― Bo Jackson Overdrive, Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I actually remember the first time I heard What Would You Say pretty clearly. I was starting to become aware of "funk" at the time, and I was also a bit of a muso/guitar nerd, and I remember thinking "this guy plays really good funk rhythm guitar and the drummer is tight and this doesn't sound like anything I've heard...so why is it so corny and bad?"

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I also remember thinking "what the hell is wrong with this guy?"

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I feel like some people were voting for DMB vs. Cranberries rather than the songs themselves. Should've been 'Zombie' in a walk.

no way. though i don't particularly like DMB, i'd take them over the cranberries in a second. difference here is that i actually like "zombie", and "what would you say" is one of my least favorite DMB tunes (of the few i'm familiar with).

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would venture to guess that DMB has more tolerable songs than Cranberries

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably graduated to the cat sat on the mat lyrics

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, March 25, 2012 2:56 PM (3 hours ago)

If it's anything like this jam then I am DOWN

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

^reminds me of WWYS lyrics:

Up and down the puppies' hair
Fleas and ticks jump everywhere
'Cause of original sin

Down the hill fell Jack and Jill
And you came tumbling after
'Cause of original sin

Wipe away the tears
Drink a hope to happy years
And you may find
A lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Don't drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

What would you say
Dont' drop the big one
If you a monkey on a string
well Don't cut my life line
If you a doggie on a chain
Don't bite the mailman
What would you say

Every dog has its day every day has its way
Of being forgotten - "Mom, it's my birthday!"
whatd you say (then what could you say)
what would you say

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy
Everyone goes in the end

Knock knock on the door
Who's it for, theres nobody in here
Look in the mirror my friend

I don't understand at best
I cannot speak for all the rest
at mornin rise a lifetime's passed me by

what would you say?

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Orange wild-eyed muppet a major influence on Dave's delivery I think.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

"with their tanks and their bombs/and their bombs and their guns" vs. "up and down the puppies' hair/fleas and ticks jump everywhere/cause of original sin"

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was there when the bear
Ate his head, thought it was a candy

I kind of like this bcz wtf?

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I never noticed it because of Dave's goobery up-down delivery.

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

results are some bullshit imo

― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Do people here hate "Dreams?" I figured that was generally considered an ok song.

― billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

kind of not that bad... better than pretty much any Dave jam

― billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do love Linger more than any DMB song; only "Two Step" comes close...

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

"i drink too much" makes me want to drink too much

― billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's probably because they were totally ubiquitous when I was 13-17, the age at which your brain is highly vulnerable to radio hits, but I kinda like all DMB's mid-'90s stuff. Cranberries aren't too bad, either. Someone from the post-Pearl Jam crop of assholes like Bush is way more odious to me.

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I was 15 people would tell me I look like Dolores, but that's because I had short red hair and people are unimaginative/love making celeb comparisons.

― Marilyn Hagerty: the terroir of tiny town (Abbbottt), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

OTM about having a hard time really hating those mid-90s Dave singles. We should do worst Bush single or something.

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 26 March 2012 03:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Bush singles >>> DMB singles, but I'm something of a grunge acolyte...

― dies irate (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 26 March 2012 04:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

the first 7 bush singles are good.

― billstevejim, Monday, 26 March 2012 04:53 (1 year ago) Permalink