The Man Who Polled the World, aka DAVID BOWIE POLL RESULTS

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I came this close to calling the thread "Poll Thing/Candidate/Poll Thing (reprise)"

Let's go! We're burning daylight.

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Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link

Part One, Album Poll Results:

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10. YOUNG AMERICANS (1975) - 28 points/8 votes/no first-place votes)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link

Pack a pack horse up and let's start here. Many thanks for running this!

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link

I might have gone with "Placement To Placement", but this title works well.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link

or "Sound And Division". There are tons of decent possibilities.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

Poll Love

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

One ballot had the subject line "As they polled you out of the oxygen tent..."

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

Rock'N'Poll With Me

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link

"He polls out a finger.."

Mark G, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

Chev brakes are snarling, as you Suggest Ban across the road...

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:24 (twelve years ago) link

Gallupin Sane

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

anyway - YA would have been my sixth place pick for albums. But only the versions with the bonus tracks. Wonder whose decision it was to leave 'Who Can I Be Now' off the original release?

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Nick Logan's #1 (circa 1987)

Paul, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

It's not the side effects of the poll name...

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

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9. SCARY MONSTERS (1980) - 60 points/15 votes/3 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:31 (twelve years ago) link

Poll Americans
Poll Americans
I wanna poll Americans
alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll night
I wanna poll Americans

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link

My #1. Side 1 is my favourite single side of an album. Drops a touch on side 2, but not by much.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't include albums on my own ballot, but if I had I would've made Scary Monsters my #1.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Scary Monsters was my 5th place for albums, I think? (I'm going to open up the e-mail that I sent with the ballot on so I can check this stuff out). Side One is indeed impeccable, Side Two less so. But I generally listen to this one from start to finish. Love the way its bookended by the two different vibes of the 'It's No Game' parts.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link

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8. DIAMOND DOGS (1974) - 87 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Woof-woof Bow-wow

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

Diamond Dogs didn't make my Top 5 Bowie albums, but it'd comfortably come in 6th. Once upon a time I used to think that this album didn't compare with Aladdin Sane and it's grown on me so much over the years to the point where I now easily prefer it to that record.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

I would say Diamond Dogs is his best album for listening to in its entirety, but I actually listen to another one more often, so it had to take the top spot.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

When I think back to what high school actually felt like for me, I usually end up with Bowie's 70s apocalyptic and dissolute world in ruins. Diamond Dogs is key.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

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7. ALADDIN SANE (1973) - 112 points/24 votes/6 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

i didnt vote in this because i just dont know bowie well enough. i like him though and i'm excited to listen to each youtube that makes it.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not going to do embedded youtubes until the top 10 tracks, to keep the thread from loading too slowly. Youtubes would be great when we get to tracks, but if everyone would use the youtu.be address that keeps it from embedding, that would be best.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Also key: Aladdin Sane... paranoid, romantic and filthy.

xpost!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

Is everyone else as lazy as I am, in that unless the youtube is there waiting for me to click (as opposed to opening in a new tab) that I'm probably not even gonna bother?

God, I'm lazy.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

well i'll happily click on the youtu.be link :)

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, please don't load a bunch of youtube embeds in here. Those threads absolutely kill my browser at work and since these polls usually go up during the weekday, I want to follow along.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

I would say Diamond Dogs is his best album for listening to in its entirety, but I actually listen to another one more often, so it had to take the top spot.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:00 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I definitely agree with this up to a point. I mean, I can listen to a lot of Bowie's albums from start-to-finish without complaint, but I can also dip in and out of those records just as easily. I do think Diamond Dogs works much, much better as a whole piece rather than something to be dipped in and out of, definitely.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

The thing that comes to my mind every time I listen to Aladdin Sane is how god damn loud it sounds compared to the albums that come before and after it. 'Watch That Man' for example - the guitars on that are scorching!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

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6. LODGER (1979) - 135 points/24 votes/5 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Lodger is the first of mine to place (my #3), but Diamond Dogs and Scary Monsters were late cuts.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

That's 4 of my 5 gone.

dorsalstop, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

This dude has awes cover art but I really like the Lodgers one.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

I know the pendulum has swung in DD's favor in recent years but I still think it's one of his weakest records – and embarrassing in places.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Seconded. Can't take anything beyond "Rebel, Rebel" and the title track (and the latter is desperately crying out for some Ronson).

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

I like Bowie a bunch of the time & love wide swathes of it, but yeah, aside from "Rebel Rebel" & "Panic in Detroit" I can't really get into DD or Aladdin Sane, after years of trying, even. But it's just me: theatrical rock rubs me the wrong-ish way, & those + Ziggy are Bowie at his most theatrical.

Euler, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

The second album of mine to place. Like EZ, Lodger is my #3. I absolutely love this record. A favourite of mine I dig out very regularly.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

Young Americans And Aladdin Sane are the two canonical albums I dislike. The former more than the latter.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah euler otm, it just doesn't feel like there's much substance to those songs

iatee, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer AS to Ziggy (which I never listen to) – it rocks!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

I know the pendulum has swung in DD's favor in recent years but I still think it's one of his weakest records – and embarrassing in places.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:21 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The only track on it that I'd say I'm less keen on in comparison to the others is 'Rock'n'Roll With Me', really. I guess I can see why some may not like Diamond Dogs, but for me its definitely far from an embarrassing album.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

Young Americans And Aladdin Sane are the two canonical albums I dislike. The former more than the latter.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:24 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I tend to listen to specific tracks from these two albums rather than the whole album from start-to-finish these days. Neither of these albums made my albums ballot, fwiw.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

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5. "HEROES" (1977) - 135 points/30 votes/5 first place votes)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Note the near-tie.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Tucan and I in similar Bowie tastes non-shocker.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

"We Are The Dead" makes me cringe – that line about "defecating ecstasy"!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

I wish more folks would defecate Ecstasy. The world would be a much happier place to live in!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I love you in your fuck-me pumps

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

it's like unicorns shitting rainbows.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I reaaaally need to devote more time to Lodger.

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

I think the whole "Something kind of hit me today" verse part is way better than the chorus.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

DD was my 4th place - again, the bonus tracks really make it.
AS was my 1st place - a really underrated album compared to ZS, I prefer it to the earlier album.
Lodger was my 5th place - if only DB hadn't run out of creative steam in the early 80's and had continued on with this kind of experimentation. I get this feeling that Outside was trying to get back to it, but Lodger feels far less contrived.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Heroes" is another Bowie album that didn't make my Top 5. I'd put this one 7th after Diamond Dogs actually. I've never really got into this record to the same degree as I have with the other two 'Berlin' albums, although I obviously like several tracks from it.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

So I'm guessing that Outside has beaten Let's Dance and The Man Who Sold The World here? Ought to get round to listening to it I suppose.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

I kind of agree with the embarrassing tag on DD, but I can never get past (as others mentioned above) how amazing Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing is. It's one of those musical moments that are so strong that I'm willing to overlook almost everything else, and makes me wish that Bowie had trusted himself to play guitar more often. Rebel Rebel is a good mindless single, as is Diamond Dogs. The part of the album I tend to skip is the first three tracks on side two. My main problem wit DD has always been the fact that it feels like two concept albums smashed into one. Cut the first three tracks on side 2 and replace them with something great, and I might have this as my #1.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Outside was "sneak previewed" on the voting thread - placed 11th.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

I can never get past (as others mentioned above) how amazing Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing is. It's one of those musical moments that are so strong that I'm willing to overlook almost everything else, and makes me wish that Bowie had trusted himself to play guitar more often

will agree with this. For masochists: Bowie played lead guitar on "'87 and Cry" and "New York's in Love."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Outside was "sneak previewed" on the voting thread - placed 11th.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

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4. THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS (1972) - 153 points/39 votes/4 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

I have a lot to say about 'Sweet Things/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise)', but I'm better off leaving that until it gets to the tracks rollout. I'm seriously trying to resist the temptation to start discussing certain tracks at the moment!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

xp ^^^ have visited that street. It's just a street ;_;
And not even one with a deal.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, and there's my #4!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

My #3.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Ziggy squeaked in as my #5, more for remembrance of my teenage love of it instead of how often I reach for it these days.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm certain my #2 isn't going to place at all.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

xp ^^^ have visited that street. It's just a street ;_;

have walked down that street many times, even been to godawful 'strawberry moons' club, without realising its significance.

ledge, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

does it smell like a street?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link

emphatically

ledge, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

"rubbish. Stay away."

...says Google Maps. Last time I was there was 10 years ago - it's been developed a lot.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think I'm going to count down the top 60 tracks instead of top 50.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Still holding out hope for Heathen in the top 3! (lol, I know better)

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

"There's a bar at the end where I can meet you and your friend get charged insane prices for Guinness and assorted drinks on St. Patrick's."

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

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3. HUNKY DORY (1971) - 198 points/41 votes/4 first-place votes)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

tsk

Mo Money Mo Johnston (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

I like it, but there are others I like more.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

My no1...it's more like a house than an album to me...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

I like it, but there are others I like more.

― c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, the very same. Hunky Dory is one of those where if it's playing, I'll get a lot of enjoyment out of it, but it's far from the first Bowie record that I'd consciously put on.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, I figured Hunky Dory would take the #1 album spot... will Low really come in ahead of it? If so, that bodes well for an interesting top 50 songs!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

In fact, I'd probably put this as my #7 and bump "Heroes" down to #8.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Love Hunky Dory!
I didn't vote for albums and now I'm regretting it. Looks like you all have taken care of things well enough. I wonder if anyone else threw away a vote on Kooks. I did!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

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2. STATION TO STATION (1976) - 306 points/43 votes/16 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

My #1.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

i guess that leaves 'never let me down' then

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

wow i thought station to station would walk this
i think it's quite a bit better than Low

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

Tin Machine II in first place

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

I adore Low, but it didn't make my top 5 (it would be 6th).

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

the jump in 1st place votes (from 4 to 16) is telling tho

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Takes a bit of the mystery out of what the #1 will be, so...

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1. LOW (1977) - 325 points/50 votes/15 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station was my #1. I remember having a conversation about this record with EZ not too long back where he said something along the lines of "Every time I listen to a track from Station To Station I find myself wanting to listen to the whole thing", which is one of the most OTM things I've ever read about this record. I love this record. The one Bowie record I would grab in the house fire, the one I'd take on the desert island etc. etc. An absolute all-time favourite.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Call me Mr Consensus - my top five was this top five, but in 1-3-2-4-5 order.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Really fucked up my album poll...tossed it off without thinking bout it...Low and Station to Station should of been in it...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Consensus Jones.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

2-3-1-4-DIDNOTPLACE

ledge, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Does DBowie have the best face, or does he have the best face?! He is so well structured!! It's ridiculous!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

My (predictable) album ballot:
1. Ziggy Stardust
2. Hunky Dory
3. The Man Who Sold The World
4. Station To Station
5. Scary Monsters

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

wow i thought station to station would walk this
i think it's quite a bit better than Low

― ciderpress, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was expecting both Low and Station To Station to be 'up there', but I had no idea which one would place the highest. I prefer Station To Station over Low also, but I think they're both impeccable records. Low was my #2.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

station to station was my number 1

Ziggy squeaked in as my #5, more for remembrance of my teenage love of it instead of how often I reach for it these days.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:46 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^this is way OTM for me, though i think i had it higher than 5

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot:

1. Station To Station
2. Low
3. Lodger
4. Ziggy Stardust
5. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised at this, I thought Low would be miles and miles ahead.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

1. Outside
2. Hunky Dory
3. Station To Station
4. Lodger
5. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

1. Low

2. Station To Station

3. Scary Monsters

4. Ziggy Stardust

5. Hunky Dory

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

Low and S2S went back and forth all week long, jumping back and forth in front of each other. This was the early trendline that I mentioned in the voting thread -- Low took the big early lead, S2S jumped ahead last Wednesday-Friday, Low came back strong at the end over the weekend.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

1. Station To Station
2. Stages
3. Lodger
4. Outside
5. Ziggy Stardust

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Low" but am confused by people who rate it so highly.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

1 Aladdin Sane
2 David Live
3 The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
4 Diamond Dogs
5 Lodger

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

1. Low
2. Lodger
3. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
4. Black Tie, White Noise
5. Heathen

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

The full album results

1. LOW (1977) - 325 points/50 votes/15 first-place votes
2. STATION TO STATION (1976) - 306 points/43 votes/16 first-place votes
3. HUNKY DORY (1971) - 198 points/41 votes/4 first-place votes
4. THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS (1972) - 153 points/39 votes/4 first-place votes
5. "HEROES" (1977) - 135 points/30 votes/5 first place votes
6. LODGER (1979) - 135 points/24 votes/5 first-place votes
7. ALADDIN SANE (1973) - 112 points/24 votes/6 first-place votes
8. DIAMOND DOGS (1974) - 87 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes
9. SCARY MONSTERS (1980) - 60 points/15 votes/3 first-place votes
10. YOUNG AMERICANS (1975) - 28 points/8 votes/no first-place votes
11. OUTSIDE (1995) - 14 points/3 votes/0 firsts
12. THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD - 13/3/0
14. (tie) DAVID LIVE - 7/1/0
14. (tie) STAGE - 7/1/0
16. (tie) LET'S DANCE - 6/2/0
16. (tie) SPACE ODDITY - 6/2/0
17. BLACK TIE WHITE NOISE - 3/1/0
21. (tie) Changesonebowie - 1/1/0
21. (tie) EARTHLING - 1/1/0
21. (tie) HEATHEN - 1/1/0
21. (tie) LABYRINTH (soundtrack) - 1/1/0

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't get around to listening closely to "Heroes" before voting, even though I've had it on CD for like 5 years, but probably woulda voted for one of the two opening tracks if I had. I love Bowie in skronky guitar-squall mode, and these are almost danceable besides. As others have already noted, the title track is hard to hear beyond bad cover versions.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

huge consensus on his top records. Interesting.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

aaaw, labyrinth soundtrack with one vote : )

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was kinda funny that Stage and David Live tied.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

A second cup of coffee and then I'll start on tracks from #60.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Aladdin Sane seems like something of a love-it-or-hate-it pick.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

"David Live" is definitely my favourite of the two, it's the one I play a lot more often.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

"hours" shut-out!

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

A second cup of coffee and then I'll start on tracks from #60.

― Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:28 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, think I'm going to put the kettle on as well. Remember folks, it's not the side effects of the caffeine...

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

It's not the side-effects of the cocaine
I'm thinking that all you people who voted for Low haven't listened to any other Bowie albums

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

whoa xp

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

...I'm thinking that it must be wub! Bowie should make a dubstep album for his comeback.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Part of me was expecting Heathen and Scary Monsters to come a little higher, really surprised by the non-appearance of Reality as well, which I've always found pretty decent and far from the disasters that Tonight and Never Let Me down are.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Stage was the 3rd Bowie album I bought, after Heroes and Ziggy, so I've always held it in higher regard than David Live for sentimental reasons. I listened to it again a couple of days ago for the first time in years, and it really is a stormer. "TVC15" way improved over the studio version, beautifully recorded, etc.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Call me Mr Consensus - my top five was this top five, but in 1-3-2-4-5 order.

― Michael Jones, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:12 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, me too. Exactly that.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp I don't like the way he plays through the Ziggy material at a gallop, like he's in a hurry to get this gig business over so he can go somewhere.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

My album ballot:

Low
Heroes
Ziggy
Young Americans
Scary Monsters

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

1 Station to Station
2 Hunky Dory
3 Alladin Sane
4 Low
5 Ziggy Stardust

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Mine was:

1. Station to Station
2. Low
3. Hunky Dory
4. Diamond Dogs
5. Aladdin Sane

The last two, as mentioned by others above, I just love as a complete experience start to finish...

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

Stages is amazing. I like all the Low and Heroes cuts on it more than their studio versions. However, the Nassau show released a few years ago on the deluxe Station To Station beats it. Might be my absolutely favorite official Bowie release.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

The live "Stay" (from the Nassau show) demolishes the studio version. And I love the studio version.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

That band was smoking.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot

1. Aladdin Sane
2. Hunky Dory
3. Station To Station
4. Ziggy Stardust
5. Low

Aladdin Sane has some clunkers, but 75% of it is just about perfect.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

If we'd done this poll in 1982 then surely Ziggy Stardust would've been #1 (undeservedly).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Tracks time! I hope my internet connection doesn't crap out on me -- I've been having dropouts for a few weeks and had a guy from the cable co. out to check it out yesterday.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

That band was smoking.

― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and snorting!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Let me tell you, there were some results that surprised the hell out of me. #teaser #fluffer

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

#bastard

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

60. "Sons of the Silent Age" (from "Heroes") - 200 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Is "Sound & Vision" going to be the number 1 song then?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Happy to see this! (even if WmC had to push it out to 60 spots) Love this tune.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

This one was my #20. One of my favourite tracks from "Heroes".

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Wait I thought you were at least putting the link to teh youtube w/ the results?

Making me look shit up, pffft.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad we posted no YouTubes tbh. I have a powerful work computer but it nearly exploded opening the Jacksons poll thread.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

http://youtu.be/0mbfyJ3x_1Q

Let me know if that embeds and I'll scratch it.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Seems fine to me, WmC!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah thats why there was talk of the youtu.be link which is just a link to the video on youtube.

xpost

didnt embed, thats fine thank you wmc.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

its weird that people complain about the youtubes, maybe its whatever browser they use... got a pretty standard 4 year old macbook and it never has a problem with them.

Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's more if you want to expand the thread

iatee, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

I've got all my Bowie albums here on my computer, so I'm just going to listen along whenever a particular track comes up.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

I looked this song up on SongMeanings.net cos I always wondered about it... and now I know:

This song is about abortion. It took me forever to realize but once I did realize that, it is so obvious. Brilliant song and now the chorus means ten times more, knowing that he ACTUALLY means BABY when he says "baby".

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

God, I love that kind of floating quality that 'Sons Of The Silent Age' has during the verses.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Sons of the Silent Age is a awesome song to begin a countdown with.

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

59. Teenage Wildlife (from Scary Monsters) - 206 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/i9pByyFqrFI

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, the one where Bowie whines about being influential.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

the one where Bowie whines

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

You guys, I totally forgot to put in the image I created for the opening post! Check the top of the thread now.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

Nice jorb!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Sweet

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

Cool!

But what's Ron Swanson doing there?

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

Love Teslabowie

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

'Teenage Wildlife' is about Gary Numan, isn't it? Or at least it's rumoured to be. Reading between the lines, it's almost as if Bowie perceived Numan as some sort of threat at the dawn of the '80s. I guess Numan was outselling him at the time, though. I mean, Numan was massive in the UK in 1980/1981. Numan obviously admired Bowie, but the feeling clearly wasn't mutual.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Love the Frippery on Teenage Wildlife, but other than that, I can never quite connect with it.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

There's a famous story in which an uncharacteristically ungentlemanlike Bowie destroys Numan on TV.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

58. "The Secret Life of Arabia" (from "Heroes") - 211 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/712GnEJHn_Y

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Love the Frippery on Teenage Wildlife, but other than that, I can never quite connect with it.

^^^^ My problem with SM generally. I love the sound of the thing but, oof, Bowie's vocals...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

There's a famous story in which an uncharacteristically ungentlemanlike Bowie destroys Numan on TV.

Would like to read this story!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

well, Numan's a bit freaky, isn't he? not like, uh, Bowie.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

oof, Bowie's vocals...

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_la8wu7q8Ri1qaaa84o1_500.gif

buzza, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

loooove those glasses

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

There's a famous story in which an uncharacteristically ungentlemanlike Bowie destroys Numan on TV.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard he once got Numan thrown out of a TV studio once... or is that the same story? He certainly wasn't the only person to get agitated with Numan for whatever reason. I mean, Yes doing 'White Car' on Drama for example.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

Meh... 'The Secret Life Of Arabia' = not one of my favourites. I mean, I kinda appreciate it as some kind of lighthearted relief after the ambient part of "Heroes", but I never ever feel like listening to it on its own ever.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I like your photo collage, but now I have to do this:

http://i.imgur.com/T7Jeb.jpg

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

I LOVE Secret Life of Arabia but on some thread around here so many people were sort of running it down that I balked...and I think the placement at the end of Heroes helps both the song and the album as a whole. I love hearing it after the heavy instrumentals on s2.

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

haha, A+
xp

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

57. "Beauty and the Beast" (from "Heroes") - 219 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/RmqcMwD9NSo

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

In 2000 a close friend, a Bowie neophyte, stuck the newly purchased Heroes in his car. As that intro piano and gnarled-distorted Frippery began, I put myself in his place and wondered what the hell was going through his mind.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

I LOVE Secret Life of Arabia but on some thread around here so many people were sort of running it down that I balked...and I think the placement at the end of Heroes helps both the song and the album as a whole. I love hearing it after the heavy instrumentals on s2.

― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 5:28 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah. I mean, I understand why it's there, but it's always come across as something of a PS to me. Or like watching a short Bugs Bunny cartoon after watching Schindler's List.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

SECRET SECRET

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

there are 56 better Bowie songs than Beauty and the Beast?

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Only 18, according to my ballot.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

There was an interview with Bowie once - on MuchMusic, I think - during the 90s - where they asked what "Bowie imitators" he thought were songwriters good and he named Gary Numan. Maybe he softened with age...

Kent Burt, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I absolutely love the middle 8 in 'Beauty And The Beast'.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Only 7 according to mine. xps

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

'Beauty And The Beast' didn't even make my ballot! :/

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

56. "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" (w/Giorgio Moroder; Cat People soundtrack; Let's Dance) - 220 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/YWX_MFNOL_Y

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

GASOOOLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link

Polling Out The Fire

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

I guess it's challops to prefer the Rodgers-produced version...

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Cat Pee Poll

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

I wouldn't call it one of my favourite Bowie songs, but the part where it kicks in after the long intro is a great moment.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

This should be the Let's Dance version: http://youtu.be/pRbuxshYvtg

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I definitely prefer the Moroder version over the Rodgers version.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

55. "Blackout" (from "Heroes") - 229 points/11 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/Uz7vhDHPlyk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:55 (twelve years ago) link

GET SOME PROTECTION

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Arabia" a very late entry to my ballot - literally last in - after a relisten to Side 2 of "Heroes" at the weekend. Love the guitar on it (Alomar?). Nice to make a difference (for once) to an ILM poll result!

Also pleased that Cat People made it, tho' v. low down my ballot. Also voted for Moroder version, although as I said on the other thread I prefer the "GAS!-o-line" rendition to "Gaso-liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine".

Jeff W, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

xp haha is all of "Heroes" gonna make it?

Jeff W, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

I've been aiming for 12 minutes or so between results -- baby, let me know if I need to speed up, slow down or oh my god I can't believe I'm typing that.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

How about wait until I get home?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Will you post everybody's votes after you reveal the winner....

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ah yes! 'Blackout'! This one was my #18.

I'M UNDER JAPANESE INFLUENCE AND MY HONOUR'S AT STAKE!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

Will you post everybody's votes after you reveal the winner....

― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 11:58 AM (1 minute ago)

There'll be a link to the googledocs spreadsheet with the full voting; it'll be up to everyone else to post their own ballots, unless they need them mailed back to them.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Everything about this song seems to be so damn thrilling, and packed full of wonderful moments. As Soto mentioned above, the 'get some protection' backing vocals... then there's the 'I'm under Japanese influence' rant, the 'kiss you in the rain' part that's immediately followed by GET ME TO THE DOCTOR! It's brilliant. One of my "Heroes" favourites.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

Blackout was my no.1. So much for my hopes of a clean sweep of the top 20.

Heroes and Stage versions are both incredible imo.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

xp I once asked Gary Numan about getting thrown off that TV show at Bowie's behest, and Bowie's kind words many years later. His response was something like: "Too late, wasn't it? He's still a cunt."

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

jeez heroes is dominating

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

54. "Move On" (from Lodger) - 233 points/10 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/2NGc1nlWOiU

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

Now this is a jam.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

xp:

I can see why Numan took it badly, in all fairness. The guy was barely into his early 20s and fame was something that happened suddenly for him, AND he was a Bowie fan as well. I suppose Bowie should have known better, but who knows what was going through his head at the time? Also, in Bowie's defence, Numan could have been accused of being a touch arrogant himself at that time.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

'Move On' is one of those I really, desperately wanted to include on my ballot but unfortunately I didn't have any room for it. A really clever track, as anyone who has listened to it backwards will realise.

Altogether now: AIIIIYAAAAA OOOOOOOH AIIIIYYYOOORRR OOOOOOOHHH AIIIIIYYAAAA OOOOOOH AIIIYOOOOOOR OOOOOOOOH!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

And here is a snatch of it played backwards...

http://youtu.be/lYgNomvJpMs

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Move On" was very, very high on my ballot

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

Sometimes I feel the need to move on
So I pack a bag
And move on

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

xp Numan blames a lot of his inability to make friends with other musicians on his undiagnosed Asperger's, which makes sense. Alienated and alienating.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

Turrican, thanks for the link. I knew about the 'All the Young Dudes' backwards accident but couldn't be arsed to rip it from cd and play it backwards.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp same here

xxp my favorite Bowie line

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

53. "Win" (from Young Americans) - 234 points/10 votes/2 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/mB9RSG-56wU

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

xp:

Somewhere someone's calling me and when the chips are down
I'm just a travelling man, maybe it's just a trick of the miiind

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Turrican, thanks for the link. I knew about the 'All the Young Dudes' backwards accident but couldn't be arsed to rip it from cd and play it backwards.

― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 6:24 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No worries, man. I guess the wonderful thing about it is that not only did he manage to get two songs out of the same thing, but the two songs stand up very well as separate things!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Ah yes, 'Win'. I'll admit that no tracks from Young Americans made my ballot, but this one is definitely a favourite from that album. I love the floating saxophones in the intro and the general vibe of the track. It's very well produced.

Gotta love those backing vocals too: 'That's all you gotta do! It ain't over!'

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I've heard any of these songs before. Loving this.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

Best track on Young Americans - just missed my ballot.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

"Win" is my first to place, great song!

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Same here. I never really got into the rest of that album, but "Win" is a major standout.

xp

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Who is the other supercool individual with the excellent taste in favorite David Bowie songs?

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

'Win' is full of more #win than a thousand Charlie Sheen's eating "winner winner Sheen dinner".

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

'Win' is great, I had completely forgotten it.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

52. "Cracked Actor" (from Aladdin Sane) - 239 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/zkEvAvIGK-w

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I tried to remind y'all about the glory of Win, but did you listen to me? Of course not. So here it is, languishing at 53.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I hadn't heard "Win" at all before listening to stuff for this poll -- Young Americans was one of the 70s records I didn't know aside from the singles -- but it made my ballot. This song makes me so freakin' horny! (/tmi)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

'Cracked Actor', for me, is one of those songs that is a decent and listenable slice of rock music, but ultimately doesn't blow me away.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Kornrulez, I listened! I had forgotten about it but said a big fuck yeah and put it on my ballot after being reminded. Would have placed lower otherwise.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Cracked Actor was my no.2. I love my Bowie poppy-and-paranoid, clearly.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

Excellent, grandavis, excellent. If only more had heard the call....

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I love the title too, I find it extremely satisfying to say.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I think a lot of ballots that did not have Win on it were trying not to loose, and failing #winrelatedhumor

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

"Win" is one of the reasons I counted down from 60 instead of 50, tbh.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Counting down from 60 was a great idea, and I think the number of ballots definitely warranted it!

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

now speed it up
more songs
more more more more

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

more more more

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:00 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

How d'ya like it? How d'ya like it?

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

no, the tempo is just right if a little fast--stretch it out!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

51. "Joe the Lion" (from "Heroes") - 251 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/VcXb2FXcWg4

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

Love Joe the Lion! Not on my ballot though....

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Like 'Blackout', this is another "Heroes" track that is just filled with great moments, especially the 'It's Monday...' section which is an excellent little change. Fantastic guitar work throughout, too.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwvhfu0Oqh1qggdq1.jpg

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

Joe The Lion, Made Of Iron (In Zion)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

50. "A New Career in a New Town" (from Low) - 251 points/12 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/JhZqsYkl1zI

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

For those of you who don't know, that's the artist Chris Burden, who inspired the song. Here he is nailed to a Volkswagen...he also had himself shot in the arm, etc...great artist.

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

did not know joe the lion was about chris burden! thx for the tip iago.

Spectrist, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

In making my ballot I made the snap decision to skip all instrumentals. Did anyone else decide to do that? As much as I like almost all of them (though "A New Career in a New Town" would not have made my list, like most of the others over it) it seemed to take space away from the meat of Bowie's career, if that makes sense? My original list that had 45 songs or whatever had 4 or 5 instrumentals, and it just made things so much easier to consider them as a separate entity.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'll never forget hearing 'A New Career In A New Town' for the first time, and getting that great 'tingle' that the best music gives. I feel that giving this piece of music lyrics would only taint it, since it's just so perfectly realised and everything that you need to know is there in the music. It seems to capture this joyful feeling of moving on, but simultaneously there's something about that harmonica that sounds like a goodbye tinged with regret. Quite apt really, all things considered. It's a beautiful tune. Another one of those I wish I'd had room for on the ballot.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

The harmonica is really great in that tune

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

49. "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)" (from Scary Monsters) - 258 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/NHywdqH3F6Y

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Oh hello there, my #15!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

did not know joe the lion was about chris burden! thx for the tip iago.
― Spectrist, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:25 PM (13 minutes ago)

You're welcome, Spectrist!

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie is often an abstruse lyricist so the instrumentals were his best chances of finding musical correlatives for his concepts, you know? What song speaks to Bowie's interests in motorik and C&W than "A New Career..."?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to 'Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)' right now. The track, not the album. Every time that outro comes on, it makes me sad that it seems unlikely that he'll ever play live again. That outro was designed to be a prime live moment, I feel.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

the title track allowed for one of the Gabrels era's best live performances.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

My snap decision now seems to be just that, an opportunity to make picking 20 songs a little easier. I think I would trade a couple of my eventual choices out for an instrumental or two now, but there you have it. Good point btw Alfred, and those songs work really well on the albums, they are much more than interludes or diversions, they belong in the narrative of the records.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

I had 3 instrumentals on my ballot. I ended up making the snap decision to exclude nearly all the hits instead.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

there is a killer live version of SM&SC on the Serious Moonlight bootleg

fully formed adult banaka unit (sleeve), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

man I'd never listened to Live in Santa Monica 72, this thing SMOKES

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

48. "Diamond Dogs" (from Diamond Dogs) - 268 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/36lWAcY9IXE

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

totally, wild eyed boy--i put width of a circle from that show on my list, but i guess it will get folded into the studio version which is fine by me.

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

I've been trying to coin "Call them the Diamond Hogs!" as the unofficial slogan for the Arkansas Razorback baseball team, but no go.

pplains, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie is often an abstruse lyricist so the instrumentals were his best chances of finding musical correlatives for his concepts, you know?

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 7:43 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I agree with this completely. The moments that tend to affect me in some way on Bowie releases are very rarely the lyrics in and of themselves. Rather, they tend to be musical elements for the most part. When it comes to his vocals, most of the time I get more of a buzz out of the way he sings things rather than what he's actually singing, if that makes sense.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

THIS AIN'T ROCK'N'ROLL! THIS IS GENOCIDE!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

I've been trying to coin "Call them the Diamond Hogs!" as the unofficial slogan for the Arkansas Razorback baseball team, but no go.

I love that -- too bad the idea isn't sticking.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

THIS AIN'T ROCK'N'ROLL! THIS IS GENOCIDE!

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:58 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

best line in rock n' roll history

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Scary Monsters" is a song he simply never could've done before his collabs w Eno. The insane Fripp lead, the filter on the bgd vox during the chorus, the careening tempo -- I've always been a very big fan.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

Can't believe 'Win' charted so lowly...my no 1...one of my heartbeat songs...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

So I think most of my ballot will be in the top 20 but I will pretend I wasn't a part of this poll if letter to hermione doesn't feat.

Moka, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

It's interesting, because I'm listening to this song ('Diamond Dogs') straight after listening to 'Scary Monsters', and I've noticed both songs have same kind of dalek effect on the vocals.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

47. "What in the World" (from Low) - 275 points/12 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/7SAIVyGTNRM

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Pacman is trying to eat this song.
chavedappelle 2 days ago

pplains, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

What In the World is a little kooky. I always thought the Eno synth part was mixed so high that it threatened to overwhelm the rest of the song.

Pacman is trying to eat this song.
chavedappelle 2 days ago

Or this.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, totally

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

Hehehehe... it's definitely not heard the first time someone has referenced Pac Man in regards to this track. There are some tracks from the first half of Low that you can take out of the context of the song order and work equally well as a separate thing: 'Be My Wife' and 'Always Crashing In The Same Car' for example. I feel this is one of those tracks on Low which thrives best as part of the album, but maybe as a standalone thing it doesn't work quite as well. That's not to say that I don't like it, because I like it a great deal.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

Yay, my #2. Hugs to whomever had it as their #1.

dorsalstop, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

I love the Pacman sounds in this.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hehehehe... it's definitely not heard the first time someone has referenced Pac Man in regards to this track.

Have I had too my coffee or something? This should read "It's definitely not the first time I've heard someone referencing Pac Man in regards to this track."

Geez. It's not the side effects of the caffeine, folks.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

In making my ballot I made the snap decision to skip all instrumentals. Did anyone else decide to do that?

*raises hand*

(although even right up to the end I was sorely tempted to include Neukoln. I'm sure it will place high w/o my help though)

Jeff W, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

xp:

Too MUCH coffee. Fucksake.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

Can't believe 'Win' charted so lowly...my no 1

So you're the other guy with great taste in #1 Bowie songs.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

(hi to dorsalstop btw - long time no see an' all that)

Jeff W, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

46. "The Bewlay Brothers" (from Hunky Dory) - 284 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/8a82arE0JSQ

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

cmon KOOKS

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

Oh come ON, Bewlay Brothers can't be this low

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

Another personal Bowie favourite of mine that didn't make my ballot. Ranks up there with his best album closers for me.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

(Oh, hey Jeff - funny anyone should remember me at all.)

dorsalstop, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

Bewlay Brothers was my no.5. Another day it'd've been my no.1.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

I'M STARVING FOR ME GRAAAAVYYY!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

I've listened to it several times this week and it just doesn't stick to me for whatever reason.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

"Diamond Dogs" way too low - what an ominous piece of sleaze that is. I intend a compliment.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

I know not everyone likes that 'gravy' part at the end, but I've always felt it added a nice twist to the track.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

It's perfect, there's really no other way to top the heavy lyrics of that song except with a silly vari-speed ending.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

xxp I'm really surprised Diamond Dogs is - yes, I know - TOO LOW. My No. 4 - I adore it. One of his very best classic singles.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

feel like at least one of the berlin trilogy is going to have the entire tracklist make it into the top 60

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

I have a feeling that all of the tracks from Station To Station will make it. There's only 6 of them!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

45. "Word on a Wing" (from Station to Station) - 288 points/10votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/DTIAiMeyd7Q

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

Oh come now. My number one.

Really, people?

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

And there we go! I absolutely adore this song. This was my #2.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

The first couple of lines are so awesome that I feel the song doesn't really recover from them. And Bowie's histrionics in the second half are distracting.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

My #9. Treasure of a tune

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

Is anyone spotify playlisting this thing?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

I left DD off my ballot, but it was one of the hardest cuts.

Bewlay Brothers was my #9. I dunno, I love all Bowie songs that conjure fantastic images, places, people. This one has big sweep and artful wordplay, and touching, telling details so softly offered up... and then that course intrusion at the end, fucking w/ yr expectations.

Word on a Wing doesn't touch me at all.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

Word is one of my faves off StS...can't remember my justification for leaving it off my ballot, but I shouldn't have axed it.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was gonna be a top ten. But then. These are all winners.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

I love that guitar lick in the intro, and the "sweet flame you're born once again" backing vocals. A great set of lyrics in here as well. Like everything on Station To Station, it never feels as long as it actually is.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

Is anyone spotify playlisting this thing?

― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 2:43 PM (1 minute ago)

I can start one after I finish with today's tracks (4 more to go), but not til then. If someone else wants to do it, have at it.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

I guess I'm learning I like OTT Bowie more than most - I was surprised Teenage Wildlife was as low also.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

The "histrionics", I guess - his vocal gymnastics. I.e. THE COKE.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

I think the histrionics are fucking brilliant, fwiw.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

44. "Kooks" (from Hunky Dory) = 290 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/Mdr05UVBihY

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

will not take any of the "TOO LOW"'s seriously considering that Beauty and the Beast and MOVE ON are outside the top 50

gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera to thread!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

"what in the world" was my no.1, thanks for the hugs dorsalstop! Really in love with the whole first side of Low.

many xps

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yaaaaay!! 13 other people see the beauty of this lighthearted silly little song.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

We believe in you.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think I ended up voting for "Kooks", but it's one of the best songs on that album.

Euler, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

Don't pick fights with the bullies or the cads, 'cuz they're not much cop at punching other people's dads!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

will not take any of the "TOO LOW"'s seriously considering that Beauty and the Beast and MOVE ON are outside the top 50

I think that if there's one complaint about this list, it's going to be that it was too Low.

pplains, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Well there goes my "I love the sound of 'Breaking Glass'" joke for No. 15.

pplains, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

43. "Warszawa" (from Low) - 291 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes

Studio: http://youtu.be/9Gy94N_mcWs
Live, Tokyo 1978: http://youtu.be/j9rELaQztqk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

http://open.spotify.com/user/simon7bond7/playlist/5eB7YOnC2x30Zmt1vWrdVb

― kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:51 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

Applause! Thanks kraudive!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, thank you!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks kraudive!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Warszawa is great, was on my original list until I gacked all instrumentals from it.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

there are vocals on it!

sarahell, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

eeeeeee aaaaaa ooooooooo-eeeeeeeee-ooooooeeeeeeeehhhh!

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Was just gonna say: it's not really an instrumental, I just always think of it that way! Obviously my logic for this poll was muddled. It's not the side effects of the caffeine, though, I swear.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

That Tokyo performance is great -- I can imagine the slow tempo tripping people up without a conductor. There was also a crappy cellphone video posted of a 2002 performance, but I didn't want to post that link.

xp -- I always think of it as an instrumental myself.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp - this Moroder version of Cat People is lovely.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

The whole Cat People soundtrack is great! At least I like it.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

42. "Jean Genie" (from Aladdin Sane) - 300 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes

studio: http://youtu.be/CGQo6zpVzt8
Top of the Pops, January 1973: http://youtu.be/yEmGQYCuc6M - WATCH THIS ONE, YO

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

BLOCKBUSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

That unearthed TOTP perf was one of the reasons I gave the song 4th place.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

says he's a beautician
who sells you nutrition

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

My opinion on this one is a bit like my opinion on 'Cracked Actor'... it's a good slab of rock'n'roll, it's highly listenable and I don't mind it, but it's never been one of my favourites.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

That jacket! His skin doesn't even look like real human skin. There should really be a poll for DB's various looks -- he has had SO MANY!!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

* thread grinds to a halt while everyone watches that TOTP clip *

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

Are the sideburns on the bassist dyed, or is it just his hair and he went white in the beard really young? Either way, tough look to have to pull off.

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

I was wondering the same thing. He looks like one of those weird monkeys with distinctive facial hair.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

The hair grows out of his brain.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

It is true, his skin does not look human. How can a face be so smoothe?

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

Is the whole thing getting posted today?!?!?@

billstevejim, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not even sure they're real. (the sideburns)

Not a huge fan of JG the song, but that TOTP clip is really great. Love Ronson's shoes.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

he learned puppet makeup in mime school!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Last one of the day coming up.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe he is a shark. Speaking of, I have been ogling his old teeth (RIP old teeth).

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

DB's teeth analyised
http://www.youtu.be/dtrjZRQ8TzU

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

I think my favorite bit of that TOTP performance was the "Love Me Do" quote at the end.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

41. "Wild Is the Wind" (from Station to Station) - 313 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes

studio: http://youtu.be/pMICp0gwZic
Live at the Beeb, 2000: http://youtu.be/RT__JxncHEs

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

I hated cutting WitW so I'm glad to see it place.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting that this one came higher than 'Word On A Wing' in terms of the Station To Station tracks.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

At one point the entire album was on my ballot, but it seemed slight overkill.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

You're not the only one who was tempted to put all of the Station To Station tracks in there. I think I settled for about half of them, which still only amounts to 3 songs. This one didn't make my ballot, though.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

Greatest ILM thread ever: TS: Prince or Bowie?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting that this one came higher than 'Word On A Wing' in terms of the Station To Station tracks.

Yes.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

'wild is the wind' is one of my favorites

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

i love "kooks" it makes me think of my lil girl at home

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Do we think 'African Night Flight' is gonna make it...not terribly high on my list but I do hope some love is shown for it...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

I'm thinking #16-40 tomorrow, and the top 15 Thursday. I'm also thinking we're going to have pancakes, bacon and maybe a fried egg for dinner tonight.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

sounds good on both counts

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

Rundown sounds good, looling forward to 40-16 tomorrow!

grandavis, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

Do we think 'African Night Flight' is gonna make it...not terribly high on my list but I do hope some love is shown for it...

― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:58 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't vote for it, but I hope so. I'd be very happy if pretty much any of the Lodger tracks charted highly.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:05 (twelve years ago) link

Beginning to regret not including 'Lady Grinning Soul' and 'DJ'...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

There are still A LOT of hits to come - actual proper chart sensations. Not sure that cuts like "African Night Flight" will make it.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

^^ from a UK view btw. I'm not sure of the US / UK split here - or how US people are aware of how many records Bowie sold in the UK in the 1970s.

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

Not sure that cuts like "African Night Flight" will make it.

In my ballot fwiw. Crazy track.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

that song is great but it did not make my ballot, I did consider it.

fully formed adult banaka unit (sleeve), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

It is a great song. I didn't even think of it. There are too many.

xp - yeah

kraudive, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:26 (twelve years ago) link

Gotta get word to Elizabeth's father

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Best electronic crickets evah...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

hats off to whoever's putting the Spotify playlist together. much obliged.

piscesx, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

so Sweet Head won't be making it i guess..

piscesx, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

Had I gotten my ballot in on time, it would've had African Night Flight placed at #14. For my money, where most of the Berlin Trilogy sounds like Eno-influenced Bowie, African Night Flight sounds like Bowie-influenced Eno.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

Kooks is such a great bizarro world bowie track, no theatrical dystopian cut-up wordplay, instead we get "don't pick fights with the bullies or the cads, cause I'm not much cop at punching
other people's dads". Didn't vote for it but glad to see it.

ledge, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

I love kooks, voted for it – something optimistic, beautiful and genuinely moving abt it – inviting your child into the world. And funny.

woof, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link

Kooks is such a great bizarro world bowie track, no theatrical dystopian cut-up wordplay, instead we get "don't pick fights with the bullies or the cads, cause I'm not much cop at punching
other people's dads".

Yep -- lines as subversive and transgressive in their own way as "The church of man-love is such a holy place to be"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link

"Church of man-love"? ha.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

Mostly given as "church of man, love". Is there a definitive lyric, do we know?

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

this poll has me looking forward to work tomorrow, well played.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

Only three from my ballot so far (Sons of the Silent Age, The Secret Life of Arabia, The Bewlay Brothers). Anyway, great mantle taking, WmC.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

none from mine! i think!

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, this thread delivers. Too bad I'm not able to attend the roll out "live". So many memories & urges to post reactions came up while reading through the thread in bed yesterday evening.

My (as it turns out, ILM-canonic) album ballot
1. Low
2. Station to Station
3. "Heroes"
4. Lodger
5. Hunky Dory

My #'s 1 and 2 also frequently switch places. 3 to 5 often change too, I already regretted not including DD when I played it in the car this morning.

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

Can I just recap 60 - 41, I suppose WmC's planning to do this before continuing today anyway...

60. "Sons of the Silent Age" (from "Heroes") - 200 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
59. Teenage Wildlife (from Scary Monsters) - 206 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
58. "The Secret Life of Arabia" (from "Heroes") - 211 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
57. "Beauty and the Beast" (from "Heroes") - 219 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
56. "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" (w/Giorgio Moroder; Cat People soundtrack; Let's Dance) - 220 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
55. "Blackout" (from "Heroes") - 229 points/11 votes/1 first-place vote
54. "Move On" (from Lodger) - 233 points/10 votes/1 first-place vote
53. "Win" (from Young Americans) - 234 points/10 votes/2 first-place votes
52. "Cracked Actor" (from Aladdin Sane) - 239 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
51. "Joe the Lion" (from "Heroes") - 251 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
50. "A New Career in a New Town" (from Low) - 251 points/12 votes/0 first-place votes
49. "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)" (from Scary Monsters) - 258 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
48. "Diamond Dogs" (from Diamond Dogs) - 268 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
47. "What in the World" (from Low) - 275 points/12 votes/1 first-place vote
46. "The Bewlay Brothers" (from Hunky Dory) - 284 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
45. "Word on a Wing" (from Station to Station) - 288 points/10votes/1 first-place vote
44. "Kooks" (from Hunky Dory) = 290 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
43. "Warszawa" (from Low) - 291 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
42. "Jean Genie" (from Aladdin Sane) - 300 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
41. "Wild Is the Wind" (from Station to Station) - 313 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

6 favourite songs already!

Lots of "Heroes" tracks in the lower regions - glad they're placing individually anyway. Love the hardrocking songs of side 1, B&B, JtL and Blackout. As I played them this morning after listening to Diamond Dogs it occurred to me that the vocal parts on these tracks are often recorded in two distinct ways, one sounding like he's singing in a very small room (claustrofobic echo-y vox), the other upfront in the mix and quite clear/direct sounding (they alternate from Sweet Thing to Candidate and back to Sweet Thing (reprise), on Joe the Lion the clear upfront vox come in on the awesome "It's Monday..." part while the rest is sung in the claustrofobic bathroom studio). Maybe it's not significant, but it struck me as something he seems to do more often this morning.

Anyway, looking forward to the next 20!

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, tracks from my ballot until now:
- "A New Career in a New Town" (I love Alfred's remark on this being a combination of Bowie's love for motorik and C&W - it's an almost perfect amalgam! Made me realise my number one track is also an example of this!)
- "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)"
- "The Bewlay Brothers"

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, 'The Jean Genie' is much lower than I expected. First real surprise to me so far. 'Wild is the Wind' had a second life in the UK as a hit single in '81 so that may account for some votes?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

That's a terrific idea, linking to all those. Thanks.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:30 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer the Johnny Mathis version of Wild is the Wind but this is still Bowie's greatest cover.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:34 (twelve years ago) link

Was just thinking a while back about how The Jean Genie came out about the same time as Rebel Rebel, but the former is much better than the latter which sounds like a jean/perfume ad for the 'rock-chick' by comparison.

xpost yeah, I rated "WITW" higher...

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

I prefer the Johnny Mathis version of Wild is the Wind but this is still Bowie's greatest cover.

The Nina Simone version is utterly devastating and that really ruined the Bowie one for me. Never heard the Mathis original though!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

Sounds like the song is a 'go-to' for vocal gravitas.

It's just a matter of time before it appears on X-Factor auditions.

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:47 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder how the 'pushing ahead of the dame' book is coming along?

anyone get around to reading this? http://peterdoggett.org/page4.htm

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, it's good on individual songs - some more than others - but I found the format frustrating. There are so many boxouts on wider themes that it feels like he committed to this format and then strained against it. It makes it a great reference tool but not a great read. Could be just my preferences though - I think Revolution In the Head is the only time that format has been truly satisfying.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link

How does the style of that huge Nicholas Pegg book compare?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:24 (twelve years ago) link

yeah supposedly it was going to be Ian Mcdonald's next book too (according to the Dogget interview on Word mag podcast). the Pegg book is great; i just bought my second copy.
the format is spot on although it is MENTAL detailed. he's a bit too much of a fan to be objective at times that's the main criticism i would have of it.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

I have a problem with the way Nina Simone sings and Bowie was going for something like that so yeah, give me Johnny Mathis.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

The Doggett does have some great facts and theories though and it sent me back to Bowie's back catalogue, which was good prep for this poll. I just felt that "Bowie in the 70s" could have made a great story if he wasn't hamstrung by taking on Ian MacDonald's unfinished project. His previous book, There's a Riot Goin' On, shows that he's much better at overarching narratives.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

The Nick Pegg book is outstanding - heartily recommend it. Insanely exhaustive and detailed but also very astute, insightful etc.

Stevie T, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

Ordinarily I would've snapped up the Doggett book, but 'Pushing Ahead of the Dame' is such a fantastic piece of work that it seemed superfluous.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah supposedly it was going to be Ian Mcdonald's next book too

He was going to do a Rev in the Head-style Bowie book? Man, I would've loved to read that.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

Apparently Doggett was asked to finish it off after MacDonald's death and then when the publisher inspected MacDonald's files they realised he'd barely started it. So Doggett's book is more like a tribute album.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

Good morning! My wife got up with the dog and his dumb bladder this morning so I got to sleep in about an hour longer than usual. Time for some results.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

40. "It's No Game" (from Scary Monsters) - 324 points/13 votes/1 first-place vote

Part 1: http://youtu.be/E6hEcDt8HZI
Part 2: http://youtu.be/yUzWAJJMycs

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

Did she 'ouvrez le chien' ?

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

Another track that made my ballot, although I voted specifically for the first part. I love the way 'It's No Game' opens up Scary Monsters with the projector sound-effect. Some excellent guitar work in this. Particularly fond of the Japanese vocal, and Bowie here turns in a great manic vocal performance himself, screaming himself hoarse... "I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND! THE SIT-U-A-TIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!". The way it ends is just fantastic too, the lone guitar and Bowie screaming "SHUT UP!!! SHUT UP!!!".

I guess the second part of 'It's No Game' highlights that it's a good enough song to be able to withstand being done in a different approach... in the case of part two, a more calmer reading. But for me, it's all about the more panic-stricken first part.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

Specified the first part of "It's No Game" in my vote as well

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

Nine votes specified Pt. 1, two votes specified Pt. 2, and two votes didn't give a specific version.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

willem and woof, thanks for the recap and links!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

39. "Fantastic Voyage" (from Lodger) - 327 points/17 votes/ 0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/CMh6GgwFLS0

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I voted 'Its No Game' but didn't specify which part...(part 1)...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you all for voting "Fantastic Voyage"! One of the songs it pained me to leave off.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

two votes specified Pt. 2

Glad I'm not the only person who prefers 2. Love the deadpanness of it.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

And you're welcome EZ!

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

The PAotD post on "It's No Game" is chock full of interesting information (trivia: the japanese vocalist is one of the ladies on the cover of Kimono My House!, the one on the right :-). This song is so much fun to scream along to (Shirueto ya kagega!) - I'll be doing just that when I leave for home in an hour :)

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

Yay @ "Fantastic Voyage"! My #14. His delivery sounds so compassionate.

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link

'It's No Game (Pt. 1)' was my lucky #13.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

My favourite part in FV is segue from the first chorus to the second verse... The contrast between that massive sustained high note, and the very understated, lower register "...And the right words make you listen".

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

I wish I'd been able to include "Fantastic Voyage" on my ballot -- the lyric is just about the most brilliantly mature I can think of in his catalogue. But I didn't really know the song until this past week.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

'Fantastic Voyage' made my ballot also @ #17. I've always been a massive fan of this track. Bowie turns in a great vocal on this in my opinion, and the "we're learning to live with somebody's depression/and I don't want to live with somebody's depression" line has always been a bit of an earworm for me.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

Remember it's true!

Dignity is valuable... but our lives are valuable tooooo-hoOoO-hOOOO!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

38. "Breaking Glass" (from Low) - 333 points/15 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/2j4mfErOeqg

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

The thing about 'Breaking Glass' is that I always find myself wishing that the song were twice as long, even if I do realise that its length is actually perfect.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I always want to know what the awful thing he drew on the carpet was.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

In the event that this fantastic poll should turn to erosion

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

The awful thing was a pentangle I believe, drawn during some paranoid LA hallucination.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Can I do the nick Lowe joke now?

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

The lines "Don't look at the carpet; I drew something awful on it" refer to Bowie's practice of drawing the Tree of Life on the floor during that period, as he was interested in Aleister Crowley and Qabbala at the time.

(from wikipedia)

nate woolls, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Good.

http://www.wilde-life.com/expos/secretsongs/nicklowe.html

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Side A of Low is my favourite of any of his sides. All but "Breaking Glass" and "What In the World" feature on my ballot. And even those are great songs. Sequentially, that side kinda comes of as a perfectly executed run of try out singles. As if he recorded them all within a week or so, each in one take, bang on the money every time. Perfect.

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

xp
Think you're too late Mark. Unless it's different to the one upthread.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

Breaking Glass was my no.6. I love love love it.

Low in general sounds so interesting texturally to me, and Breaking Glass is the most so.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

The awful thing was a pentangle I believe, drawn during some paranoid LA hallucination.

― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 3:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

This is slightly disappointing.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I tried to find the photo of him drawing that. It's in one of the ryko booklets. There's one of him standing up and drawing it and one in which he sits on the floor, one arm supporting his upper body, the other drawing. Maybe it's the back cover for Station to Station ryko release?

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

as he was interested in Aleister Crowley and Qabbala at the time

The time being his whole career. Also see "Quicksand.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie looks as if you could snap his arms off in that picture.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

does look pretty awful:

http://neovitruvian.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/340px-tree-of-life_queens-colours-svg.png

ledge, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

What In The World seems too, uh low. That is a doozy of a song, and still sounds ahead of its time.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

xp, Yep, back of Ryko StS. Didn't know what that was until now; assumed it was another still from The Man Who Fell To Earth.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

So what did he use to draw on carpet? I assume it wasn't shag.

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe rather than drawing something that is awful, he drew something but did an awful job.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry chap. I knew there was some satanist thing going on. Tree of Life might be nastier; don't know what it is but it must be evil somehow.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie would've been a hellvua roommate. Breaking glass, drawing on the carpet, crashing his car in the parking garage...

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

Cool, two in a row for me! Fantastic Voyage was my #14 as well, such a cool song. Breaking Glass almost got cut, but eeked out my last spot. Just such a bizarre, texturally dynamic song. The hooks were too hard to ignore for me.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

But the best is the abusive "don't look!" then "see!"

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

37. "All the Young Dudes" (Bowie: Aladdin Sane sessions; Mott the Hoople, 1972 single) - 334 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes

Bowie: http://youtu.be/YZqY3hiXJr8
Mott: http://youtu.be/IBcDEmNDYW8
Queen, Bowie, Ian Hunter & Mick Ronson at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert: http://youtu.be/nhGOx1lidGc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

Moderator, is it too early to guess the top 5?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

(Thanks ledge and tarfumes, that's the pic I was referring too)

willem, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

It was different, but I'm too late anyway:

http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/gallery/ni/nickliltsobg5005150309498270.jpg

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

Tree of Life is Jewish mysticism, nothing evil about it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.yelp.com/biz/lowes-bowie

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

All the Young Dudes I figured would rate much higher, it is classic Bowie that presages many hits of the 80s: a rock anthem about the end of the world.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty much after I submitted my All the Young Dudes-less ballot I had it going round my head for a couple of days. No do-overs though.

ledge, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

That hook is powerful.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

Confession: I dislike "All The Young Dudes" and always have. Don't know why.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

:O

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

36. "Boys Keep Swinging" (from Lodger) - 345 points/16 votes/1 first-place vote

Official video: http://youtu.be/UMhFyWEMlD4
On Saturday Night Live with Klaus Nomi and Joey Arias: http://youtu.be/XNKiGFaRxdM

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't heard it, but there's a version of this by Susanna Hoffs with John Entwistle on bass.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

there's a version of this by Susanna Hoffs with John Entwistle on bass

my introduction!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

This one grew out of 'Fantastic Voyage', apparently. I like it a lot, but it's not one of my favourites.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

I remember watching that SNL clip at the time and thinking "what the HELL?!"

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

I resubmitted with "All the Young Dudes" as my #1 (just Mott's version, though--don't think I've heard Bowie's). Such a great, oddly moving song. "Teen Age Riot" circa 1972.

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie dancing better than usual in that SNL clip.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, I can't believe I didn't know this was happening!

wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Prefer Mott's ATYD, so left it off.

Tree of life more an awe-ful/profound thing than awful/evil thing in the kind of magickal system that coke-addled rock stars go for. Foundation of existence, kether to malkuth.

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I always imagined it was more like stick figures engaging in a disgusting sex act.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

35. "Aladdin Sane" (from Aladdin Sane) - 347 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/q2y9inP4CqE

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Love the verses, find the extended outro slightly tedious.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, I can't believe I didn't know this was happening!

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:26 AM (4 minutes ago)

I don't want to be a dick about this, I just want to understand -- how do people "do" ILX in a way that a thread that spends a day and a half at the top of Site New Answers and ILM New Answers can go unnoticed?

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Just catching up with bookmarked threads rather than scanning new answers?

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Not everyone looks at ILM every day!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

I've got no idea how booknmarking even works on ILX

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

34. "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)" (from Diamond Dogs) - 356 points/12 votes/3 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/vrfc8c6VkTA

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

How have I never seen that Boys Keep Swinging performance before now? The, erm, item popping up from his trousers at 2:01!

On the sidelines in a trash can grumping (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

What a strange coincidence! I'm actually listening to Diamond Dogs right now, and this came on and I was wondering when it was going to come up... and here it is! This is probably the centrepiece of Diamond Dogs for me... love the way the vocal leaps from the intro to the "can't you seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that I'm scared and I'm lonely?" part. Real goosebump-inducing stuff. And of course, the whole way that 'Candidate' just builds and builds before the release of 'Sweet Thing (Reprise)'.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

This was a late cut for me, and really I am not sure how it got left off my ballot. It is a great moment on the record, and a standalone gem. I was having a tough time getting a ballot done at all, so I guess this was just collateral damage. Hard to tell if there will be spikes in the point totals soon, or if it will just be for the top 10-15 tracks.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

omg that SNL clip is too much!! <3

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't get the impression that voting for other artists' versions of Bowie songs was permitted. If I'd thought Mott the Hoople's "All the Young Dudes" was kosher in this poll, it woulda been top 10 on my ballot!

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

It was brought up on the voting thread -- I OK'd it as a legit ballot entry because he recorded his own version, which was eventually released as a bonus track on Aladdin Sane.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

glad boys keep swinging made it, that was high on my list

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

No comments on "Aladdin Sane"? C'mon! Mike Garson! Genius!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

i love alladin sane, the song, the album, it kinda replaced ziggy stardust for me because i listened to ziggy too much in HS and never really want to listen to it again

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

33. "Fame" (from Young Americans) - 360 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes

Studio: http://youtu.be/J-_30HA7rec
Lip-syncing on Soul Train: http://youtu.be/FW9x7OkwpxA

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

I will repeat myself talking about the glory of the Aladdin Sane/Diamond Dogs era of Bowie, and say that Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise) is perfect summary... apocalyptic, paranoid, romantic, and filthy. I absolutely love it.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

No comments on "Aladdin Sane"? C'mon! Mike Garson! Genius!

― Jeff W, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:04 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I like a lot of things about 'Aladdin Sane'... the crazy Mike Garson piano solo being one of them, of course, but I always loved the way the chorus feels somewhat jarring and uncomfortable, which I presume was the intention!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

not much Ziggy on this poll so far, wondering if it's gonna show super high or if it's gonna be overlooked? b/c my snark about "theatrical" Bowie aside, I love pretty much all of Ziggy, well, except for "Rock & Roll Suicide" which was my only vote for worst Bowie song (am I alone on that?)

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Also, the piano solo thing in Aladdin Sane totally blew my mind in high school. One of those songs that totally changed my personal rules about what a "song" even was.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Among other things, the Berlin trilogy albums are very consistent - the records that precede it generally have higher highs and lower lows. So it make sense that standout tracks from all three are placing in the lower half of the poll - people are going to have a lot of different favorites from these albums. Even so, I'll be shaking my head if "Sound and Vision" makes top 20.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

33. "Fame" (from Station to Station)

actually young americans as i'm sure we all know, honest mistake, etc.

ledge, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

the piano solo on Aladdin Sane is one of my favorite things ever

silverfish, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

'Fame' is definitely another one of my personal keepers from Young Americans.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

I think Aladdin Sane was my #2, it was #1 but I changed it at the last minute

silverfish, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

I resubmitted with "All the Young Dudes" as my #1 (just Mott's version, though--don't think I've heard Bowie's). Such a great, oddly moving song. "Teen Age Riot" circa 1972.

I'm the other number one voter. figured it was common knowledge that ATYD is one of the top 5 British rock singles ever.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

Just realised I want to make a Bowie-sampling footwork track called (wait for it) Thin White Juke.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

"Fame" surprisingly low, but I understand why. Loved it the first 20 or 40 times I heard it, for some reason doesn't do much for me anymore - even compared to some others among the very small handful of Bowie songs that are overexposed stateside.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Aladdin Sane" so much for that Garson solo -- I wish it had been released as a single because I would love to start the thread "what are the most avant-garde/outside solos on pop singles?"

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

"what are the most avant-garde/outside solos on pop singles?"

Great thread idea!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Ah yeah, I caught that "Fame" error last night and fixed it on the googledoc, but forgot to fix it on my little cheat sheet for today's results.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

I was the other way round with Fame. Used to like it, then came to think of it as an empty vessel, then reassessed it again in light of the James Brown poll. It was my no.12 or thereabouts.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

woah, "Fame" waaaay too low IMHO. My #4.

More Carlos Alomar brilliance here. But the drumming's also wonderful. First time Dennis Davis worked with Bowie, I think. What an intro!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

no.8. No way is my no.12 going to show!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

"Other boys check you out
You get a girl
To say your favorite things
When you're a boy"

a win-win situation right there. too low on my ballot

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

sweet thing etc and aladdin sane were my #1 and #2. have never really seen the latter discussed on ilx so was curious where it'd place

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

32. "Fashion" (from Scary Monsters) - 374 points/17 votes/1 first-place vote

Album version: http://youtu.be/WPVTbDA8dSM
Official video: http://youtu.be/GA27aQZCQMk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

I'll never forget being creeped out by the video for Fashion when I was 8. The beep beep part.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

oof, that's three of my top 10 gone in the last four reveals. The thing I especially treasure about "Fashion" is the intro: one of those "what you thought was the beat turns out to be the offbeat" tricks that gets me every time.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

"Fashion" and "Fame" held very similar spots on my list, i.e., both songs I really like but not top-20 candidates. Both of these were late cuts though. Definitely victims of overexposure for me I think, but songs I still get excited for when they come on in a movie/store/on the radio.

Love the "Freaks and Geeks" scene where Ken throws on "Fashion" to test whether or not he is gay.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

One of the original MTV VJs, Alan Hunter, is the blue-stripey shirt guy wearing a fake mouse nose in that video.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

both were on my ballot but "Fashion" placing above "Fame" is crazy to me

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, any joy I got from Fame (and Under Pressure) were utterly destroyed by hearing it in pool halls about ten times a night.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm, gum-chewing G.E. Smith in the video for "Fahsion" does not help it's cause.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

re the 'awful' thing he drew on the floor:
http://bowiesongs.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/dbka.jpg?w=450

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

31. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 375 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/9jg4ekLG9Zo

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

WHY is there still no DVD of Cracked Actor? the version of Sweet Thing on that is the best thing ehe ever did imo.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

You're not alone!

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

I used to go out with a girl who looked a bit like that Tree of Life pic

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm, gum-chewing G.E. Smith in the video for "Fahsion" does not help it's cause.

omigod I thought it was Fripp. What the hell was Smith even doing in the video?!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

have we had any post-Let's Dance tracks yet? would be a bit disappointing if this was a complete shutout

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

Albums results suggests it might be.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

well it makes more sense for albums since they're less granular

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell was G.E. Smith doing there?

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

This Is Not America ought to place, but that's about it.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

What's going to place though? Absolute Beginners maybe

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

Sunday from Heathen was pretty good.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for two tracks post LD, I think they and one or two others at most may make it.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

I *nearly* included Hallo Spaceboy, maybe someone likes it?

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl8mqKRrOts

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

30. "Ziggy Stardust" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 390 points/18 votes/0 first-place votes

Studio: http://youtu.be/XXq5VvYAI1Q
From Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture: http://youtu.be/G8sdsW93ThQ

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for a couple too I think, but will be shocked to see them now.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

Magic Dance?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for 5 post-Let's Dance songs.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

'songs by artists 20+ years after their debut' could be an awesome future poll

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

Never underestimate ILM's 80s bias (cf. Jacksons poll)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

haha a lack of '90s/'00s songs in a David Bowie poll has soooo little to do with "ILM's 80s bias"

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Sunday from Heathen was pretty good.

― piscesx, Wednesday, March 7, 2012

It's on my ballot. So is "Jump They Say."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

I *nearly* included Hallo Spaceboy, maybe someone likes it?

I do!

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

me three.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

the Pet Shop Boys remix I hope

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for 5 post-Let's Dance songs.

Me too. One was sort of an in-joke with myself.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

do share

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

i voted for 3 post-Let's Dance songs and they were all for lols

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

29. "Panic in Detroit" (from Aladdin Sane) - 400 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/Rf0fmqWS-kI

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

Time Will Crawl. I do like the intro and there's a (cancelled) TOTP appearance that I'm fond of but it's a pretty bad Bowie period; Time Will Crawl has sort of become a bit of a punchline-without-a-joke amongst friends...

xxp

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

v disappointed in Fame's showing. This poll is crap. I hope you all fall off a cliff.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

(jk)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

the last 6 or 7 seem like they all should've been top 20, but I guess he just has that many amazing songs

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

is it any wonder

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

28. "Let's Dance" (from Let's Dance) - 422 points/22 votes/0 first-place votes

Official video: http://youtu.be/N4d7Wp9kKjA
Album: http://youtu.be/Af6jOq0dWqo
Live By Request, 2002: http://youtu.be/c4O6l6O-tgA

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for 3 post LD songs.... two of which were mentioned above, but seems a lost cause at this point.

smash williams, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing's a lost cause imo. Up is down. Black is white. Fame is 33.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

when an incongruous group of musicians make music together and it's bad, people just talk about how odd it is that they collaborated at all. when David Bowie, Nile Rodgers and Stevie Ray Vaughan made "Let's Dance," it just sounded so perfect that nobody really cared that much how improbable it was.

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Nile is great on Let's Dance in his book. The incredible sense of freedom he got from being able to throw all this avant-garde playing into the song and, more prosaically, finally as a black dude being able to make a song with 'dance' in the title that that you didn't have to be able to dance to.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

I wish it didn't have the lame twist & shout intro, because otherwise it's nothing but stunning

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

intro is great

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

I love the two rehearsal bootlegs of SRV playing old songs for the Serious Moonlight tour. Shame his manager canned his involvement at the last minute.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

♪♫ the serious moonlight ♫♪

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

eeriah oooaaahhh

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

27. "Drive-In Saturday" (from Aladdin Sane) - 441 points/20 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/HAqUDDMhfA0
LWT, 1973: http://youtu.be/MfsN8UH8p1Q

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

so far, i've only placed "cat people", "all the young dudes", "fashion", "diamond dogs" and "let's dance". should have probably voted for "aladdin sane" and "fame", but didn't. assume all the good songs will be tomorrow?

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

and when you say run, i'll run with you
and when you say hide, we'll hiiiiiiiiiiiide hiiiiiiiiiiiiiide hiiiiiiiiiiiiiide hiiiiiiiiiiiiiide

^^ i always wait the whole song for this part

not so much "TREMBLE LIKE A FLOOOOOOOOOWER" but really that's ok too

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

let's dance is all-time great

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

Top 5 prediction:

Heroes
Ashes to Ashes
Sound and Vision
Life on Mars
Station To Station

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

that would be a grody top five

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

if neither "rebel rebel" nor "suffragette city" make the top five, then this whole poll is invalid

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

the laughing gnome is surely a lock

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I love how Bowie also appears with a clipboard as the supervisor in the let's dance video for a .5 second appearance. It's so unnecessary.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

I think Drive-In Saturday was the song that changed from a casual Bowie fan who only owned a greatest hits album to a fan who seeks out all of his albums. The first time I heard it I was like whoa I need to check out what else this guy has done.

silverfish, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

Drive In my number 2. Love sad sci fi Bowie best of all.

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

Drive-In Saturday is my favorite song of Aladdin Sane. Love his vocals.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I love how Bowie also appears with a clipboard as the supervisor in the let's dance video for a .5 second appearance. It's so unnecessary.

(My wife and I watching this video recently.)

ME: "Hey! This video was filmed in Sydney!"
SS: *pause* "So you caught on to that, did you?"

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, feeling like "Let's Dance" should have made my ballot. Out-thought myself on that one I think.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

the "Let's Dance" video is better art than the song imo. I'm a sucker for Buñuel adapted for Aussie ends.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

26. "Quicksand" (from Hunky Dory) - 451 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes

http://youtu.be/nrptumUcv8E

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

ooh, didn't expect this one

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Think my attitude on Let's Dance changed from merely liking the song (as a radio single) to loving it after actually dancing to it (on a crowded dancefloor) with a hot girl I was lusting after.

Spectrist, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Pour me out another phone
I'll ring and see if your friends are home
Perhaps the strange ones in the dome
Can lend us a book we can read up alone
And try to get it on like once before
When people stared in Jagger's eyes and scored
Like the video films we saw

poss. my favourite Bowie lyric. But what are these "video films" of which you speak?

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Trying to do this results stuff and anything else is tricky! Post a result; wash the dishes; post a result; prep the chicken; post a result; mix the marinade; post a result; put the chicken in the marinade; post a result; make some lunch.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

Don't forget to eat the chicken. That's the key, I find.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Quicksand" first of mine to place in quite a while. It's possible I heard the J. Mascis cover before the original, but regardless I love this song, such a strange feel to it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

That's going on the grill this evening, awwwyeah. xp

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Wish Bowie had done a couple D&D modules, or maybe Gamma World.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

This was my 21st, replaced at the last minute by Bewlay Brothers.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Top 5 prediction:

Heroes
Ashes to Ashes
Sound and Vision
Life on Mars
Station To Station

Space Oddity instead of Sound and Vision and that's probably it

Think my attitude on Let's Dance changed from merely liking the song (as a radio single) to loving it after actually dancing to it (on a crowded dancefloor) with a hot girl I was lusting after.

same here. it happened the night before I sent my ballot (which now had Let's Dance as an honorable number 20)

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I just checked back in on this thread after eating dinner, so I'm late with this, but 'Rock'N'Roll Suicide' was my #1 selection. As a kid I was familiar with DB's early/mid 80's SM/LD/Labyrinth/etc. period, but I didn't know about anything before. Then by chance I heard R'n'RS and was like "WTF was THAT?!?!". The DJ back-announced the title of the track, and the next day I went to the record store to pick up a copy of whatever album it was the track appeared on (ZS of course). I'd been a massive Hendrix fan but pretty much knocked that on the head and started buying all the DB stuff I could get my hands on.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Also now thinking about how Bowie fandom can lead to more sublime enjoyment of the Church, especially their lyrics.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

25. "Queen Bitch" (from Hunky Dory) - 467 points/21 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/S5P63qGTm_g
The Old Grey Whistle Test, 1972: http://youtu.be/O8oGyGo1q-k

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

OH YEAH

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

I know it's kind of a stupid song but it's a really good one for strutting.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

My #8!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

#10 for me

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

so glad "quicksand" made it, one of my very favorite bowie songs, though i ranked it too low on my ballot. "knowledge comes with death's release ah ah ah ah..."

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Also now thinking about how Bowie fandom can lead to more sublime enjoyment of the Church, especially their lyrics.
totally

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Also now thinking about how Bowie fandom can lead to more sublime enjoyment of the Church, especially their lyrics.

I dunno why this has happened to me :(

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

*HASN'T

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

QB just missed out on mine.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, very high for me, #3. One of those songs that I know is not near an artist's best, but I enjoy it out of all proportion to it's "quality": I just fucking love it to death and never get bored of it. My favority of Bowie's attitude-over-artistry anthems, though there is one yet to place that I traded back and forth with in this slot for a bit.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Queen Bitch that is.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie has a power to resist terrible, terrible puns that Kilbey totally lacks. I love him for it, but I've seen it make people physically cringe.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I tried to find the photo of him drawing that. It's in one of the ryko booklets. There's one of him standing up and drawing it and one in which he sits on the floor, one arm supporting his upper body, the other drawing. Maybe it's the back cover for Station to Station ryko release?
― willem, Wednesday, March 7, 2012

You can see him drawing something with his cane while chatting during his Dick Cavett interview, Dick asks him what he is doing, awkward silence if I remember

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

*grumble* "Queen Bitch" and "Quicksand" were my #2 and #3.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Love the line "There's a taste in my mouth and it's no taste at all".

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

"Quicksand" wallows so well in it's self-reflection. Really a great melancholic rundown of crippling self-absorption and being unable to get out of one's own head.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

xp - my baseline for unfathomably bad puns is "my heart could use some glasses" so i realize that is a pretty low benchmark

i like "my stomach feels small"

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

"Quicksand" was my #7, so yeah, my #3 and #7 seemed destined for more love.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

both in my top ten

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

OK, listening to Heathen[i] on Spotify right now - wasn't impressed with the other late records, including [i]Outside, but this one's actually not bad. A little too matoor in places, and fuck does he sound old, but there are some really nice tunes - and keep-up-with-the-times production kitsch of the sort that mired his 90s records is mostly absent. So Christgau was off about this one after all.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

24. "Modern Love" (from Let's Dance) - 476 points/23 votes/0 first-place votes

Official video: http://youtu.be/1hDbpF4Mvkw
At Live Aid, 1985: http://youtu.be/xJxOL_eFGEk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

!!! one of my favorite dancing songs OF ALL TIME !!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

Stoked to see Quicksand place, was my #10 or 11.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad Modern Love made it so high. I didn't vote for it but probably should have.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

I'm glad Modern Love made it so high. I didn't vote for it but probably should have.

Same here, in fact this is true of a few of today's results. Love the intro so much.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I thought "Queen Bitch" would be top 5 or 10. It was actually the Wes Anderson film that got me to love it (I know that would be appalling to longtime Bowie fans).

clemenza, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

"Modern Love" had grown for me over time to be a real joy whenever I hear it. Disliked it as a kid, and it just kept inserting itself into my life over time. Realise now that it is kind of a juggernaut. Great build, cool structure to the song (it just seems like it could go on forever, still not sure when choruses are gonna start and end in this song). Plus, the beat and the sax rule.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

"modern love" placing above "let's dance" bothers me for some reason, but i love em both, so fair play

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

that's appalling to anyone
;)

I just don't know of a better intro to a song than "I know when to go out. I know when to stay in, get things done." It's a portrait of someone who knows how to HAVE FUN but is also RESPONSIBLE, ie the perfect person. The perfect song.

Let's Dance is smutty
Modern Love is sweet/fun

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Modern Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's Dance, and I like the latter just fine.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Always thought the fan in the video who gives him the flowers must have been pissed when he just throws them back into the audience.

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Disappointed that Song for Bob Dylan has not placed, and not expecting to see it now. If Be My Wife dosen't appear I'll sulk badly....

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Looks like "Little Wonder" didn't place, which I hadn't counted on anyway...

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Never got Modern Love.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing from The Man Who Sold The World yet...can't imagine much of it will appear, except (maybe) for the title track.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bthsavQi2TM
This was the night I got really into David Bowie... For some reason people were talking about this in school, and it seemed like a big deal so I taped it. I'm happy the whole thing is on youtube.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

I just don't know of a better intro to a song than "I know when to go out. I know when to stay in, get things done." It's a portrait of someone who knows how to HAVE FUN but is also RESPONSIBLE, ie the perfect person. The perfect song.

yes yes yes!

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

Had hoped for something pre-Space Oddity like Let Me Sleep Beside You but I think it's chance came and went in the low 50s. Looks like everything will fall within the 69-83 golden years after all.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link

Ha, I had "You've Got A Habit Of Leaving" on my ballot.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

I also voted for Time Will Crawl -- the fact that I still remembered the lyrics after 20+ years of having heard it - i felt that meant something. Also, that was my first Bowie album.

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

23. "Under Pressure" (Queen/Bowie single, 1981) - 479 points/21 votes/1 first-place vote

Official video: http://youtu.be/xtrEN-YKLBM
Queen, Bowie and Annie Lennox at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert: http://youtu.be/f9ICO-RfjAU
with Gail Ann Dorsey, live 1997: http://youtu.be/d5nYX-iuUFk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

"I know when to go out. I know when to stay in, get things done."

hahaha, for like twenty years I've thought this line was "I don't wanna go out... I want to stay in. Get things done." It's all different now!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

Under Pressure would have been my #1 most hated, but I'm not making a slam book of Bowie songs.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Under Pressure! 23! my birthday number!!
i love this song and i am not ashamed of it. my #2.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

xxp the MTV video: Wow, thanks for posting. Bowie is the best example of somebody whose live show was best well after his classic period-- in my opinion, anyway

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

I love it too. I also am not ashamed. xp

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Under Pressure", but similar to cutting instrumentals from my list, I also cut collaborations. Not sure what else would have made it, but figured this song did not need my help. Glad it didn't place higher, as much as I love it.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

It's so romantic and hopeful.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

Love this song so much, no shame. I've been all over the map emotionally the last few weeks, and somehow started leaking at the eyes when I was looking for good performance youtubes.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

what grandavis said

Jeff W, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it might have an outside chance of winning, glad it didn't. It got more #1s in the 20th century poll iirc.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

Great tune all the same

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

As a special exercise in not loving Bowie (for me at least), go watch the "Dancing In The Streets" video. I mean, it is funny, but if either of those dudes took that video seriously then I have to believe there is a drug-fueled gap in both guys memories where that video exists.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

xp Under Pressure is way more evocative of early 80s political angst than I used to think - very "don't push me cos I'm close to the edge", in a well-heeled stadium rock way. The Doggett book's very good on the politics of Fantastic Voyage and this must have been recorded not long afterwards.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha, for like twenty years I've thought this line was "I don't wanna go out... I want to stay in. Get things done." It's all different now!

lol me too. weird

Same. Except I thought the last line was "Good thing it's dark."

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

"Under Pressure" works so well despite Roger Taylor being the world's worst drummer because he's clearly following Freddie's fantastic piano in the verses.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

I always think of it as a charity single even though it wasn't. It feels very proto-Live Aid.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

22. "Stay" (from Station to Station) - 497 points/24 votes/1 first place vote

Album: http://youtu.be/iJVtv9LlK9Y
BBC Radio Theatre, 2000: http://youtu.be/or1dyvCgzMw

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

\o/

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

c-c-c-c-c-c-c-cocaine

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M9UCLchcDk

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

agggggggggggggggggggggh
nooooooooooooooooooooo

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

Y'all post youtubes the non-embedding way, please. youtu.be, etc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

also flag post if you see robin williams

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

my computer is bleeding now

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

LIFE IS SO VAGUE WHEN IT BRINGS SOMEONE NEW

is so otm

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

21. "TVC15" (from Station to Station) - 514 points/24 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/Sn8_UgMONps
Live in Japan, 1978: http://youtu.be/JQPJgu75I7c

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

I always think of it as a charity single even though it wasn't. It feels very proto-Live Aid.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:58 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark

It wasn't? I'm pretty sure there's a Live Aid logo on the sleeve somewhere.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

xxp for me the killer line it "well you can never really tell when somebody wants the same thing you want to"

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

are they forgiven now?

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait, you meant "Under Pressure"

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

"Under Pressure" came out in 1981.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

TVC15 is far too low.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

I give Bowie props for OPENING his Live Aid performance with "TVC 15" instead of, oh, "Blue Jean."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

Stage version of TVC15 is the tits.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Queen Bitch" was my #2, crushingly great riff, better than Lou.

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

"I'm up on the seventh floor, watching the cruisers below" is a way of life.

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

er, 11th

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Stay should've beaten TVC15 (though I love both of them). Stay is a beast of a tune, though; chunky and coked out.

calumerio, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

20. "John, I'm Only Dancing" (1972 single) - 526 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes

Official video: http://youtu.be/6VrqCBsbeuc
Single version: http://youtu.be/pXILmiNEf_k

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

I say "if she says she can do it then she can do it, she don't make false claims" around the house so often that my kids say it too, & they've never heard the song.

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

Has there ever been a better song about a hologram television?

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Oh SHIT I love #20

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

"Drive in Saturday" I love for a number of reasons, one of which is it reminds me of a friend who named her dog Twig the Wonder Kid.

"Quicksand" is just awesome. Chorus has the greatest lyric he ever wrote. One of those songs that makes me jealous I didn't write it.

Yay my picks are all starting to show up!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link

The outro of "John I'm Only Dancing" scared me when I was a kid.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

For the longest time, I thought the lyric was "Move me...fuck me" instead of "touch me"!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

was listening to "John, I'm only dancing" the other day in the kitchen while cooking. My 3 year old son comes running in and just starts dancing. That's when I decided this would be my #1.

silverfish, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

The only canonical Bowie track I more than just dislike. I haven't been able to make it through the whole thing in at least 20 years.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

another i probably put too low on my ballot, but damn, he's got so many "best songs".

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link

19. "Look Back in Anger" (from Lodger) - 527 points/23 votes/1 first-place vote

http://youtu.be/bnZx1Aejg1g

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

My #1!

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

My Lodger pick. Glad this has so much support. Love the competing vocals.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't said much, but I love this poll and I'm following the results closely. I didn't vote because I always think I'm ruining the poll results by not being enough of an expert. But of course I wish I would have!

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

It sounds like he's duetting with Scott Walker. Incredible drumming too.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, forgot we were going down to 16 today!

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Look Back In Anger" is the Lodger standout to me; I've been waiting so long for the album to click for me but this one's immediate

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yep, three more today. xp

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

i was the #1 voter for "Under Pressure," fuiud

some dude, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

"waiting so long"

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

When I first started listening to Bowie, I got my chronology mixed up and thought maybe John Lennon was singing the "waiting so long.." parts.

pplains, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I had never heard any of Lodger before this poll, but I am so glad that now I have!
Look Back in Anger rules and sounds like flying really fast.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:02 (twelve years ago) link

The Polecats version of John Im Only Dancing is better imho. Still voted for it tho.

Moka, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

DJ had better show, it's Lodger's standout imo.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

I'm afraid my favorite Lodger track is going to be awol.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

first verse of Look Back in Anger is all-time

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't include it in my ballot, but I've gone from hating John, I'm Only Dancing Part II to loving it!!

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

18. "Starman" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 572 points/25 votes/1 first-place vote

Album: http://youtu.be/1eIfjWTtaPw
Top of the Pops: http://youtu.be/muMcWMKPEWQ

(The album version, a vinyl rip, didn't show up until the fourth page of results!)

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

My #1. It never fails to make me happy.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

The dancing teenagers on that totp clip are the essence of 70s Britain

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

"Starman" was my #5. Had heard "Suffragette" and "Ziggy" on the radio for years, but after hearing "Starman" I finally ran out and bought the record. Glad I did.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link

When I saw Bowie at Glastonbury there was a guy in front of us dancing on his own and taking a blast of amyl nitrate at the beginning of each song. Starman was clearly his all-time favourite because he took blast after blast and then went pale and stumbled off halfway through the song to throw up. So that's why Starman will always make me smile.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

aw, I feel bad for that guy now

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:14 (twelve years ago) link

Looking at the Glastonbury setlist, I wish I remembered it more clearly:

1. Wild Is The Wind 2. China Girl 3. Changes 4. Stay 5. Life On Mars? 6. Absolute Beginners 7. Ashes To Ashes 8. Rebel Rebel 9. Little Wonder 10. Golden Years 11. Fame 12. All The Young Dudes 13. The Man Who Sold The World 14. Station To Station 15. Starman (Cut) 16. Hallo Spaceboy 17. Under Pressure 18. Ziggy Stardust 19. Heroes 20. Let's Dance 21. I'm Afraid Of Americans

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

the bass player is a sasquatch!!!
JonValurscoot 1 month ago 39

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Trevor Bolder's sideburns are dyed, and the stuff of legend. Not really sideburns, more of a ZZ Top beard with his chin left free.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

Even more impressive:

While on tour with the Cybernauts he painted his face blue but then found out the paint was semi permanent and would not come off. Bolder had to sell his car to raise the money needed for a specialist skin peeling process at a Swiss clinic. To this day he still has traces of blue paint behind his left ear.[4]

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

17. "Space Oddity" (from Space Oddity) - 586 points/26 votes/1 first-place vote

Original 1969 "Love You Til Tuesday" version/video: http://youtu.be/D67kmFzSh_o
Album version/video: http://youtu.be/uhSYbRiYwTY

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

wow, did not imagine that would come in so low, my #5

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I had imagined that, despite it all, this would finish top 10. For some reason it still manages to be a pretty monumentally successful and enjoyable song after all these years, well orchestrated and arranged and conceived and all that.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

It's kind of embarrassing how late I got into the Bowie game, but I think Space Oddity was the first Bowie song I ever really heard (at age 20, to boot!) that I realized was by him, and it got me into him. It's still a beautiful song and it would have made my ballot at around 25-30, I think.

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

Bummer -- ballots were capped at 20.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

Can't imagine what compiling this list would have been like if people could submit 30 songs. I imagine that 20 is difficult enough.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

???!!!

isn't Space Oditty THE Bowie song? what is going on here??

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Oh shit! Well, I might have squeaked it in at #20, then. Gotta have Space Oddity in there somewhere, after all.

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

Oddity

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, there should be a follow up poll for (1) songs you cut and/or (2) songs you didn't realize that you loved until the first poll!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

I have high hopes for my #1. I do.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm still figuring out my ass from my elbow when it comes to spreadsheets, but they make all the difference. xps

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if anything coming up isn't on a greatest hits/singles comp

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

I think there's a huge fatigue factor out there for Space Oddity, probably for Changes too

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Space Oddity is the Bowie song like Sgt. Pepper is the Beatles album, right? As in once you get into the artist's catalog you realize that there's better material, on balance?

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

My #1 is coming up, I just know it, and I don't think it was on a greatest hits? I only have Changesbowie though.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

"Space Oddity" is one of those canonical songs like "Yesterday" and "Your Song" that I never, ever want to listen to again.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

(as far as GH comps i mean)

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Have we had Moonage Daydream yet?

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

Space Oddity is the Bowie song like Sgt. Pepper is the Beatles album, right? As in once you get into the artist's catalog you realize that there's better material, on balance?

pretty fair analogy imo; it was the first Bowie song I remember hearing

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

also, I'd never heard the "Love You Til Tuesday" version of it until a couple of hours ago

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

Ehhh, "Space Oddity" is very early in DB's career/discography. I would think that Ziggy Stardust or something is the Sgt. Pepper's. I think it's more like enjoying Mr. Soul by Neil Young or something (though it is of course way more ubiquitous).

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if anything coming up isn't on a greatest hits/singles comp

Have we had Station To Station yet?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

yup, Station to Station bound to come.

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

Be My Wife has to place also - surely?

kraudive, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

The song Station to Station BETTER be in the top five....(fist smack into palm)

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

I said it before, but: My brain hurts a lot.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

La Lechera otm, I think that should, really should turn up.

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

"Space Oddity" is dope, "Starman" doesn't belong top 20. As Ziggy Stardust's first big UK hit, I feel like full appreciation of the latter demands the historical context of the British pop circa 1972 - all by its lonesome it's kind of a thin song.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

OK, last one for today. Get yer guesses in in the next 2 minutes.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link

I think you mean "better be top 3," Iago.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

xpost Space Oddity is the Bowie song like Sgt. Pepper is the Beatles album, right? As in once you get into the artist's catalog you realize that there's better material, on balance?

― this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:36 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"space oddity" is an astounding song, easily one of bowie's best. imo, the tendency to downplay its genius reflects not a great wealth of "better material", but simply the fact that career- and era-defining smash hits tend to get overplayed. and there's a strong tendency among the "real fans" of any artist to slag the trademark hit anyway...

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

Andy Warhol

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

I think both of those will be there, especially S2S. Seems to have a big lobby here.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

and sgt. pepper's is similarly brilliant (xxp)

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

OK, last one for today. Get yer guesses in in the next 2 minutes.

Give us a clue!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link

it is awesome

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Too late!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

Guessing at 'Oh! You Pretty Things'

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

I could see Station to Station winning this TBH. It would be a very ILX choice.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

it sounds even better when you're wasted

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

16. "Five Years" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 596 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/Zq3EZhT3G7U
Old Grey Whistle Test, 1972: http://youtu.be/louXPUW7tHU
Dinah Shore Show, 1975: http://youtu.be/nyFH4S76ErU

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link

meh

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

My #4!

nate woolls, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

Too low!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

by the way, on that note, I think "Cracked Actor" has the greatest Enjoyment Factor when Drinking increase than just about any song in history. I listen to it during the day and think it's a nice enough song, but play it late at night and the world disintegrates. So great.

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

I genuinely dislike Five Years, sorry

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Have we had Moonage Daydream yet?

I was worrying this same thing. I don't think so, it should be in the top 5 at least!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

The Dinah Shore clip of Five Years is spine tingling...wish it was better quality!

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link

Five years, my #5

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

Incredible - one of his best. I over-played it in my teen years so I don't need to hear it so much anymore - still made my top ten.

kraudive, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

Every line in it is genius

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link

My #1!!! OMG what is not to like about it?! Don't think you knew you were in this song.
It always gets me in the mood to hear the rest of the album, great first track.

Who else voted it #1?

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

Special song for me, think I put it too low at #12, but then again I love everything I placed before it as well. Good showing I think.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Cracked Actor" has the greatest Enjoyment Factor when Drinking increase than just about any song in history.

haha, pretty sure i voted for it, too! "Time" is another one of these

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

I kiss you! You're beautiful!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link

My wife played it for me on our 5 year anniversary. Funny, cool, and very touching.

grandavis, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

Ballsy way to kick off an album you've designed to be your commercial breakthrough but then the 70s was a very apocalyptic decade.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link

"Five Years" was second on my ballot. Love it to pieces. Wrote something about it recently that is probably of little interest but what the hell.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

I put Five Years too low on my ballot at #2.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

It really sets a mood, is what it does.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link

Who else voted it #1?

hi la lechera, that is me! because:

Drive In my number 2. Love sad sci fi Bowie best of all.

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woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

I wish the voice of Steve Wright didn't spoil that OGWT clip at the end. And those fucking inane TOTP2 blurbs too.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Ballsy way to kick off an album you've designed to be your commercial breakthrough but then the 70s was a very apocalyptic decade.

I hadn't considered that before...pretty otm. The apocalypticism and the hedonism went hand in hand.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:57 (twelve years ago) link

Hi 5, woof!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

I genuinely dislike Five Years, sorry

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

lyrics are great, don't get me wrong, but the song doesn't do a thing for me

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

I also like Five Years because the listener is totally rewarded for listening to the whole song. Once that's done, and you've made it, you're ready for the rest of the album. It's like going through the dark tunnel before Space Mountain or something.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

xp - i agree with you, c.

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link

I recommend reading Francis Wheen's Strange Days Indeed with a Bowie soundtrack because it's amazing how many of the weirder 70s trends were reflected or anticipated in his songs - doomsday cults, fascist coup plotters, occultism. He nails the sense of disintegration and desperation and looking for answers in dangerous places.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link

Hi 5!

Love it so much, the 'drinking milkshakes' bit my absolute favourite lyric chunk of his. Weirdly, not a huge fan of the album, but 5Y a really powerful melancholy apocalypse.

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

(that was multi xp)

woof, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

"Five Years" was second on my ballot

Me too. Second only to Win.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah milkshakes is the killer bit. But the drums too! And the very genteel musical carnage towards the end of the song.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link

BTW never ever watch the Placebo version of that song on youtube.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't vote for "Five Years", but I dig its absurd pathos. I saw GBV try it in a 50th encore one night & get the absurdity right.

Euler, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

agree about him being amazing live in the later years. Phoenix 96 was fantastic; better than Glastonbury 00 IMO yet there were very few 'hits' to speak of. Nicholas Pegg says his mid 90s band was his best since that 76 Thin White Duke tour.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

Only #20 on my ballot, which I fear is a reflection of the mood I was in last night, I bloody love Five Years but I can't always listen to it.

It wouldn't have made it on at all if I hadn't inexplicably left out Changes.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link

/off to watch the Placebo version on YouTube

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link

So I guess it's obvious Letter to Hermione didn't place. Shame on you ILM. Glad I wasn't a part of this.

Moka, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

Top 5 predictions (in descending order):

Station to Station
Suffragette City
Young Americans
Ashes to Ashes
Heroes

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link

Ir's No Game Part 2:

two votes specified Pt. 2

Glad I'm not the only person who prefers 2. Love the deadpanness of it.

― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:20 (7 hours ago) Permalink

[catching up ...]

That was me, and it was my #2. Part 2 is like a full stop on that series of albums. And (oh dear, I now see that) my number #1, still to appear, is like a semicolon ...

Neil Willett, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

i remain baffled by the Lodger love on ILM.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

"Casual" Bowie still gripped by the notion of making art; thus every song boasts an ear-catching arrangement or hook. The mix is awful though: it's like crickets snuck into the message board.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Moka I voted for Letters to Hermione fwiw. So tender and sweet, and sounds genuine without being histrionic. <3

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

Starman is my #6,Never forget seeing this for the first time on TOTP awesome.

gazelleonstage, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

i've always loved the deliberately off-key 'smiling and waving and looking so fine' bit in 5 Years.

piscesx, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

Placebo version on You Tube = Brian Molko strumming a guitar and singing by himself, and considering the song is not an obv acoustic choice and Molko can be... Molko, it is really quite... ok? Might watch it again tomorrow.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link

Recap:


60. "Sons of the Silent Age" (from "Heroes") - 200 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
59. Teenage Wildlife (from Scary Monsters) - 206 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
58. "The Secret Life of Arabia" (from "Heroes") - 211 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
57. "Beauty and the Beast" (from "Heroes") - 219 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
56. "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" (w/Giorgio Moroder; Cat People soundtrack; Let's Dance) - 220 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
55. "Blackout" (from "Heroes") - 229 points/11 votes/1 first-place vote
54. "Move On" (from Lodger) - 233 points/10 votes/1 first-place vote
53. "Win" (from Young Americans) - 234 points/10 votes/2 first-place votes
52. "Cracked Actor" (from Aladdin Sane) - 239 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
51. "Joe the Lion" (from "Heroes") - 251 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
50. "A New Career in a New Town" (from Low) - 251 points/12 votes/0 first-place votes
49. "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)" (from Scary Monsters) - 258 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
48. "Diamond Dogs" (from Diamond Dogs) - 268 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
47. "What in the World" (from Low) - 275 points/12 votes/1 first-place vote
46. "The Bewlay Brothers" (from Hunky Dory) - 284 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
45. "Word on a Wing" (from Station to Station) - 288 points/10votes/1 first-place vote
44. "Kooks" (from Hunky Dory) = 290 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
43. "Warszawa" (from Low) - 291 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
42. "Jean Genie" (from Aladdin Sane) - 300 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
41. "Wild Is the Wind" (from Station to Station) - 313 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
40. "It's No Game" (from Scary Monsters) - 324 points/13 votes/1 first-place vote
39. "Fantastic Voyage" (from Lodger) - 327 points/17 votes/ 0 first-place votes
38. "Breaking Glass" (from Low) - 333 points/15 votes/1 first-place vote
37. "All the Young Dudes" (Bowie: Aladdin Sane sessions; Mott the Hoople, 1972 single) - 334 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes
36. "Boys Keep Swinging" (from Lodger) - 345 points/16 votes/1 first-place vote
35. "Aladdin Sane" (from Aladdin Sane) - 347 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
34. "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)" (from Diamond Dogs) - 356 points/12 votes/3 first-place votes
33. "Fame" (from Young Americans) - 360 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes
32. "Fashion" (from Scary Monsters) - 374 points/17 votes/1 first-place vote
31. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 375 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes
30. "Ziggy Stardust" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 390 points/18 votes/0 first-place votes
29. "Panic in Detroit" (from Aladdin Sane) - 400 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes
28. "Let's Dance" (from Let's Dance) - 422 points/22 votes/0 first-place votes
27. "Drive-In Saturday" (from Aladdin Sane) - 441 points/20 votes/0 first-place votes
26. "Quicksand" (from Hunky Dory) - 451 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes
25. "Queen Bitch" (from Hunky Dory) - 467 points/21 votes/0 first-place votes
24. "Modern Love" (from Let's Dance) - 476 points/23 votes/0 first-place votes
23. "Under Pressure" (Queen/Bowie single, 1981) - 479 points/21 votes/1 first-place vote
22. "Stay" (from Station to Station) - 497 points/24 votes/1 first place vote
21. "TVC15" (from Station to Station) - 514 points/24 votes/0 first-place votes
20. "John, I'm Only Dancing" (1972 single) - 526 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes
19. "Look Back in Anger" (from Lodger) - 527 points/23 votes/1 first-place vote
18. "Starman" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 572 points/25 votes/1 first-place vote
17. "Space Oddity" (from Space Oddity) - 586 points/26 votes/1 first-place vote
16. "Five Years" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 596 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes

smash williams, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

oops.. not sure what happened there.

smash williams, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway... Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing was my #1. So glad to see it as high as it is. And the most #1 votes so far.

smash williams, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

When I discovered Bowie in early '93 (Black Tie White Noise!), he and Bryan Ferry, as I said in my podcast with sw00ds a couple years ago, could not have been more uncool with a large chunk of American college students. I taped his appearance on Arsenio Hall's show during which he performed with Al B Sure! and I could sense the waves of patient tolerance from Arsenio and the audience, i.e. lol let's humor the has-been. Bowie's look during this period didn't help either: Sinatra-era suits, handkerchiefs, coiffed hair.

If my memory serves me well it took a few years for the good will he accumulated after The Nirvana Cover to manifest itself in actual sales. Outside got indifferent reviews over here and disappointing sales, and there were reports of fans walking out of his concerts after Nine Inch Nails' appearance. The surprising longevity of Earthling adduced the slowly accruing revisionism. Consider: he released the remixed "I'm Afraid of Americans" more than six months after the album. Not many people bought hours either, and good for them: it's down there with Tonight as one of his sloppiest (TERRIBLE hair and clothes during this period too). But it didn't matter: 1999 was also when the last batch of reissues flooded the market. By the time of Heathen three years later he was back to being regarded as an icon.

Am I reading history correctly?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

Hooray! Stay was my number one - my favourite song of his by miles, even though I do like a fair bit of his back catalogue. It's such a great encapsulation of all that is the Thin White Duke. Spindly, dead-eyed, airtight funk. Those chord progressions are something else too.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

Quicksand is very low too - thought it would do much better than that.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

Am I reading history correctly?

dunno. seemed to me that his reputation never slipped, not even the least little bit, not even during the tin machine years. most americans stopped paying attention to his current output over the 90s, but the older stuff has always been held in extremely high regard. same goes for ferry/roxy.

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

mmmmm I don't know. I can call to mind many condescending RS, SPIN, Details, Interview stories. The man himself remained news in the same way Charles Foster Kane always did after his papers stopped selling.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

Also, my post addressed college students -- guys my age -- in the nineties, and, yeah, he was a standing joke at the beginning.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

Missed most of today's reveal because I decided to go out and get drunk instead, but absolutely chuffed as buttons that 'Look Back In Anger' and 'Stay' placed... two of my all-time Bowie favourites.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link

and, no, I don't remember anyone passing around copies of STS or the Berlin Trilogy or even recommending him. He was the Ziggy guy responsible for a few AOR mainstays ("Changes," "Jean Genie," "Space Oddity" specifically). I mean, nobody cared.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

I discovered Bowie around the same time, but just one of the Singles collections. I didn't listen to any current output until the collaboration with NIN. I don't remember him being especially uncool though. I always felt his place in the canon was already established. I guess the NIN thing felt a little 'old man trying to be hip'.

smash williams, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

60. "Sons of the Silent Age" (from "Heroes") - 200 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
59. Teenage Wildlife (from Scary Monsters) - 206 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
58. "The Secret Life of Arabia" (from "Heroes") - 211 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
57. "Beauty and the Beast" (from "Heroes") - 219 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
56. "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" (w/Giorgio Moroder; Cat People soundtrack; Let's Dance) - 220 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
55. "Blackout" (from "Heroes") - 229 points/11 votes/1 first-place vote
54. "Move On" (from Lodger) - 233 points/10 votes/1 first-place vote
53. "Win" (from Young Americans) - 234 points/10 votes/2 first-place votes
52. "Cracked Actor" (from Aladdin Sane) - 239 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
51. "Joe the Lion" (from "Heroes") - 251 points/9 votes/1 first-place vote
50. "A New Career in a New Town" (from Low) - 251 points/12 votes/0 first-place votes
49. "Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)" (from Scary Monsters) - 258 points/11 votes/0 first-place votes
48. "Diamond Dogs" (from Diamond Dogs) - 268 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
47. "What in the World" (from Low) - 275 points/12 votes/1 first-place vote
46. "The Bewlay Brothers" (from Hunky Dory) - 284 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
45. "Word on a Wing" (from Station to Station) - 288 points/10votes/1 first-place vote
44. "Kooks" (from Hunky Dory) = 290 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
43. "Warszawa" (from Low) - 291 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
42. "Jean Genie" (from Aladdin Sane) - 300 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
41. "Wild Is the Wind" (from Station to Station) - 313 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
40. "It's No Game" (from Scary Monsters) - 324 points/13 votes/1 first-place vote
39. "Fantastic Voyage" (from Lodger) - 327 points/17 votes/ 0 first-place votes
38. "Breaking Glass" (from Low) - 333 points/15 votes/1 first-place vote
37. "All the Young Dudes" (Bowie: Aladdin Sane sessions; Mott the Hoople, 1972 single) - 334 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes
36. "Boys Keep Swinging" (from Lodger) - 345 points/16 votes/1 first-place vote
35. "Aladdin Sane" (from Aladdin Sane) - 347 points/14 votes/0 first-place votes
34. "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)" (from Diamond Dogs) - 356 points/12 votes/3 first-place votes
33. "Fame" (from Young Americans) - 360 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes
32. "Fashion" (from Scary Monsters) - 374 points/17 votes/1 first-place vote
31. "Rock 'n' Roll Suicide" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 375 points/16 votes/2 first-place votes
30. "Ziggy Stardust" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 390 points/18 votes/0 first-place votes
29. "Panic in Detroit" (from Aladdin Sane) - 400 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes
28. "Let's Dance" (from Let's Dance) - 422 points/22 votes/0 first-place votes
27. "Drive-In Saturday" (from Aladdin Sane) - 441 points/20 votes/0 first-place votes
26. "Quicksand" (from Hunky Dory) - 451 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes
25. "Queen Bitch" (from Hunky Dory) - 467 points/21 votes/0 first-place votes
24. "Modern Love" (from Let's Dance) - 476 points/23 votes/0 first-place votes
23. "Under Pressure" (Queen/Bowie single, 1981) - 479 points/21 votes/1 first-place vote
22. "Stay" (from Station to Station) - 497 points/24 votes/1 first place vote
21. "TVC15" (from Station to Station) - 514 points/24 votes/0 first-place votes
20. "John, I'm Only Dancing" (1972 single) - 526 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes
19. "Look Back in Anger" (from Lodger) - 527 points/23 votes/1 first-place vote
18. "Starman" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 572 points/25 votes/1 first-place vote
17. "Space Oddity" (from Space Oddity) - 586 points/26 votes/1 first-place vote
16. "Five Years" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 596 points/24 votes/2 first-place votes

thx for the C&P work, smash

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

I got into 70s Bowie in college along with several other friends in the 90s, so it DID happen, somewhere. Helped that his entire back catalog was available on vinyl for dirt cheap.

Also, my post addressed college students -- guys my age -- in the nineties, and, yeah, he was a standing joke at the beginning.

that's so weird, cuz i'm a bit older than you (college in the late 80s), and bowie has always been HUGE among my immediate peers and the extended family of music scene people i've known over the course of my life, old and young. the "classic rock" stuff, the arty cherman stuff, the shiny 80s pop, the influence on lou & iggy, the glam & punk & funk & disco, all of it. big and obvious influence on tons of bands, from dino jr to the chamelons to smashing pumpkins.

i don't remember bowie ever becoming a "joke", just less and less interesting in the here and now. like the failure of the present only made the past shine all that much more brightly. but maybe an age gap of a half decade or so makes all the difference...

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's the irony: his influence (and Ferry's) was SO obvious on eighties college rock but no one I knew wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

maybe my love of bowie and ferry blinded me to the snickering of my peers, i dunno

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

which is why it's a shame The Buddha of Suburbia got no promotional push. More than BTWN and Outside (both of which I still like), it would have reminded skeptics of how interesting he could be.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

"Dead Against It" would be in my top forty.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I dunno among my cadre of music buddies in college Bowie's connections to Eno, Reed, and Iggy pretty much guaranteed he was worth investigating

My friends and I (girls) jammed tons of Bowie at parties in college -- mid-late 90s. Only 1 Bowie friend in hs though.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

as an 80s kid i knew bowie from classic rock radio and had heard that his berlin period was when shit got real, but of course that stuff was never on the radio -- i didn't hear that until much later.

at some point i was into stevie ray vaughan and was like hey that guitar on 'let's dance' sounds familiar

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

I have to thank art-school women for my love of Bowie (and Nick Cave).

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

as Soto pointed out, the Nirvana Unplugged of Man Who Sold the World was huge in reminding people of Bowie's greatness (and it was the ultimate cognoscenti track so it got Nirvana fans psyched to explore the lesser known). I wonder if the Sound and Vision CD box set wasn't also responsible for (re)discovery, in addition to the individual reissues.

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

Outside was, weirdly, one of the favourite albums of kids in the visual arts stream at my high school in the early 2000s. That was my introduction to Bowie, but I've never been a huge fan. Low and Station to Station, though!

Träumerei, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

sweet results so far, 8 of my choices have placed. can't believe "fame" wasn't higher (my #1). such a huge groove.

totally missed the "all the young dudes" discussion. i didn't hear his version until just now on youtube, would have voted it pretty high.

riding on a cloud (blank), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

I like this version of "Fame" better....and who knew Epstein from Welcome Back Kotter was one of DB's backup singers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCKFMTeVBO0

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:16 (twelve years ago) link

Also, that clip is a must see for Ava Cherry (did someone mention her above?)...holy sh&t, has anyone ever looked, dressed, or danced so fuc&in' cool?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:24 (twelve years ago) link

A couple other Urgent & Key Events to rebuilding Bowie's cred for late '90s kids:

  • Marilyn Manson's Mechanical Animals. Bowie's name popped up in every review and interview tied to this release. Rolling Stone even ran a painting of Manson in early '70s Bowie drag alongside their positive review of the album. A lot of kids that I knew who were Manson fans were soon stocking up on Bowie reissues.
  • The release of Velvet Goldmine the film.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, Marilyn Manson, would've never thought of that. thanks...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

that's right!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

I totally remember that! I never got into Manson but some of my friends were into him, and he was heavily promoting that album as glam/Bowie-influenced. I remember he even named his guitar player something like "Ziggy".

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

twiggy ramirez?

meticulously showcased in a stunning fart presentation (contenderizer), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

Bingo.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

Twiggy played guitar?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, I can't believe I didn't know this was happening!

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 10:26 AM (4 minutes ago)

I don't want to be a dick about this, I just want to understand -- how do people "do" ILX in a way that a thread that spends a day and a half at the top of Site New Answers and ILM New Answers can go unnoticed?

Well, to be honest, I've been pretty sick the last couple days and haven't been checking as regularly as I normally do. Also, I just skim SNA and guess I missed it. I rarely check ILM on its own.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link

at the same time as the Nirvana cover there was the whole Britpop/glam thing, this was when I was in college, and you had Morrissey's "Your Arsenal" and REM's "Monster" - and 70s Bowie was totally a major influence on all of that.

sarahell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

My college experience was entirely different from Alfred's; I started in the Fall of '91, and the still recent reissues from 1990 were passed around and talked about amongst both the radio station people I hung out with and with the more general populous in the dorms (my cassette copies were never in my room, having been borrowed by one person or another).

Also, the David Bowie vs. 808 State "Sound And Vision" was played at raves and clubs and fraternity parties. The reissues seemed to make him current and relevant when it seemed that Tin Machine had pissed away whatever good will he had remaining.

I was working at a record store when Black Tie came out and there was great anticipation from customers and staff. What was it going to be like? He's working with Lester Bowie! "Jump She Said" has a neat video, if nothing else. It was disappointing, but still sold well.

I remember Outside as a big deal. Bowie goes industrial! People were talking about him ripping off Nine Inch Nails, but "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" got a lot of MTV airplay, and was his highest charting record since the mid-80s. I had a hard time getting tickets for the tour; it sold out rather quickly, and nobody walked out of the show as far as I could tell. His band was amazing and we all thought he blew NIN away.

Earthling seemed to continue the resurgence, getting better reviews despite dropping sales. Hours was crap but his legacy seemed secure by then.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link

he named his guitar player

whoa

this is my receipt for your receipt (Z S), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

That's great to know! For the record my college station played "Jump They Say" quite a bit, and perhaps it's nostalgia that forces me to rate it higher than it should. I'll defend it as one of his best-ever, with by far the best post-'83 video.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

Don't know why I called it Jump She Said. Total space out, mixing Julian Cope (Drive She Said) and Bowie.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

Glastonbury 2000 was a BIG turnaround for a lotta folk in the UK. he played a Greatest Hits set at the close of a scorching Sunday at the end of a Glastonbury that was famously doubly over-subscribed in attendance (the last year before the superfence in 2002). he went from an old guy trying to play Drun And Bass on the previous tour and album to well, THIS the December just after
http://ebid.s3.amazonaws.com/upload_big/1/8/5/1307029494-28716-0.jpg

easy to sneer and say 'huh NME so what' but essentialy being named the single most influential musician of all time by the leading rock weekly in the world on its cover was pretty key. there's no way that'd have happened in the late 80s/ early 90s.

also key in the years just prior IMO; this
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3l4h3_generique-seven-david-bowie-david-f_shortfilms

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

I bought most of the reissues in late '93 at a national mall chain call called Tracks. Every Friday for three weeks I bought a different entry in the Berlin Trilogy. Good times.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

i feel so lame having to explain this but lol dudes Twiggy Ramirez is in the exact same 'first name from a model/actress, last name from an infamous psycho' format as Marilyn Manson, it has nothing to do with Ziggy Stardust

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

oh I know. Besides, Twiggy was on the cover of Pin Ups.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

first bowie i bought was ryko's changesbowie comp

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

i feel so lame having to explain this but lol dudes

it's cool -- def. not as lame as arguing about the provenance of internet noodz photos

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

"The dope show" has a really good chorus

riding on a cloud (blank), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

there's no way that'd have happened in the late 80s/ early 90s.

Yeah, I started reading the NME in 89 and Bowie was not cool at all then. When Suede came along things changed. It seemed a big deal when Bowie was on the cover with Brett.

fit and working again, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it was a new wave hangover at the time

riding on a cloud (blank), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:34 (twelve years ago) link

i got into bowie because i wanted to go to the nine inch nails/bowie concert back in 1995. i was 15, and my mother never would have let me go to a nin show, so i told her i wanted to see bowie (i remember that conversation... i think she knew, but she was good enough to not say anything). so to complete the illusion, i bought scary monsters, really having no clue who bowie was (thought he was famous because of his movie roles, i guess i'd seen labyrinth--which i just saw again last year, and i must say it's is an incredibly creative movie), then i rented the man who fell to earth and witnessed bowie's dick with my dad, then i bought heroes and station to station, and by the time the concert rolled around i was yelling at my friends about how "a warm place" was just bowie's "crystal japan" and how much of a rip-off nin was and how bowie was a god and they wouldn't understand.

bowie's down there with eno and new order and prince in the primordial branches of my little family tree of music exploration. trent reznor had the good taste to provide that for me, i suppose.

zingzing, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

xp perhaps it had something to do with Tonight -> Never Let Me Down -> Glass Spider Tour -> Tin Machine

fit and working again, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnr_RAexqxg

I might be alone here but they all look like they're trying too hard

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link

Carlos Alomar's paisley shirt and leather pants combo scariest elements btw

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

didn't seem that way in person. Or on the boot I found.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

Here's a review from Spin of Bowie's 50th Birthday Show*, which seems a reasonable summing up of his status in the US in '97.

*(pgs.64 & 65 if it dosen't link up exactly)

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

i'm quite glad that my top 3 (at least, and if i'm remembering correctly,) are all out of the top 20. bowie's had so many good songs, and it's good to see that people are passionate about a great many of them. and he's a vital enough artist that my top 20 could completely turn over in the next few months. i think i've gotten more pleasure out of bowie for the last half of my life than i have anyone. just in the last year or so, my favorite album by him has changed several times. but fuck man who sold the world. that album sucks. think i'll listen to it now.

zingzing, Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ I remember that review. That's exactly how I remember the response.

xpost

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link

Spacehog

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

First time I ever heard "Life on Mars" was the Flaming Lips cover

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link

it's cool -- def. not as lame as arguing about the provenance of internet noodz photos

― mookieproof, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:30 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark

please just trust i know how lame i am whether or not i say it at all times and don't bother dogging me about something across multiple threads

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link

Xpost. I was at that 50th birthday show, with rather good seats. It was pretty forgettable, unfortunately. Sadly, the only time I ever saw him live. I was a fan of a lot of the guests too, but left feeling pretty much nothing. Really should have been held in a tiny club as a super top secret thing...

dlp9001, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link

I rember hearing radio ads for the PAY-PER-VIEW simulcast of the Birthday show. "Classics David hasn't played in years!".

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

haha some dude <3

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

Wonder where or if "Absolute Beginners" will place. Those of you around at the time: was it regarded as a Brief Return To Form, as it is now?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

If I remember correctly, the thing that really hurt him in the USA was Never Let Me Down and the Glass Spider tour. It was one of the high (or low points) in terms of 80s bigger is better schlock.

After that he was pretty square. The Sound and Vision box set helped rescue him. I remember seeing him play Giants Stadium around 1990 in support of the reissue. He kept saying that it was the last time he'd ever play those songs again.

Absolute beginners was considered a good song, it was on the radio a lot. But he was still kind of cool then, that was years before any glass spiders.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

only a year!

Bowie sold out the Orange Bowl in '90, so he was still an arena draw.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

My main memory of Never Let Me Down: there was a local radio premier of "Day In Day Out" and Pepsi was a sponsor. After performing the song, Bowie asks specifically for a Pepsi before taking questions. I don't remember the exact wording, but the first question was basically "Who's responsible for this disaster" which Bowie brushed aside w/grace, and then went on to promote the album. I was just under 20, I guess, and spent most of my time listening to ChangesOne and Ziggy at the time. The whole thing kind of slapped me across the face...

dlp9001, Thursday, 8 March 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

If I remember correctly, the thing that really hurt him in the USA was Never Let Me Down and the Glass Spider tour. It was one of the high (or low points) in terms of 80s bigger is better schlock.

After that he was pretty square. The Sound and Vision box set helped rescue him. I remember seeing him play Giants Stadium around 1990 in support of the reissue. He kept saying that it was the last time he'd ever play those songs again.


I was at that show as well -- and had virtually the same post queued up but got sidetracked before posting. That box and the Ryko reissues absolutely cemented his reputation in the Classic Rock pantheon -- and touring the former really allowed him to trade on it in that it didn't require him to play any new material. Which given how badly Glass Spider (and to a lesser extent, Tin Machine) was received was definitely a good thing.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 8 March 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

Anyway... Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing was my #1. So glad to see it as high as it is. And the most #1 votes so far.
― smash williams, Wednesday, March 7, 2012 6:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

My #1 also!

God, all of these songs are so classic. You forget sometimes...

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie asking for a Pepsi?? what the hell. UK Bowie and U.S. Bowie were very different things at the time i guess, as i'm sure there was none of that Pepsi/ radio phone in stuff here. also the Sound And Vision box was no big deal over here. i barely recall it even coming out.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link

xpost - to Alfred: I think "Absolute Beginners" was so tied to the fiasco of the movie and the Heaven's Gate of Style Culture, in the UK anyway, that its qualities as a song were a little overlooked.

Stevie T, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:10 (twelve years ago) link

I can't comment on the US but after NLMD ended in critical and commercial failure the only way was up. Although it's considered a joke now the first Tin Machine album got good reviews and the feeling was that he was back in the game even if the work wasn't all there. BTWN and especially 'Buddha of Suburbia' built on that feeling, so by the time 'Outside' came out his rep was more or less restored.

There's a terrific interview he did with Jack Docherty in 97 which had Bowie fans raving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yL4xxGE73E

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

Caught up with the thread/poll over morning coffee. What a great read. Will not go into the (good & interesting!) discussions, but rather pick out some remarks that clicked...

Disappointed that Song for Bob Dylan has not placed, and not expecting to see it now. If Be My Wife dosen't appear I'll sulk badly....

It's very (very!) high on my ballot! Kraudive co-signed your post so that makes three voters. That's not enough - but there's always hope

Ha, I had "You've Got A Habit Of Leaving" on my ballot.

Me too!

I say "if she says she can do it then she can do it, she don't make false claims" around the house so often that my kids say it too, & they've never heard the song.

<3

"Look Back In Anger" is the Lodger standout to me; I've been waiting so long for the album to click for me but this one's immediate

Nicely put :-)

Loved the Glasto/amyl nitrate/Starman story and Bolder's blue face accident(omg)

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:45 (twelve years ago) link

Am I reading history correctly?

when Suede came along things changed

Definitely true over here. After Tin Machine he was a joke figure, the target of weekly mockery in the press - yet at the same time so embedded in the culture via his huge hits & Berlin coolness that the party line was 'brilliant until 83, irredeemably shit thereafter - and then there was all that nazi stuff, and The Laughing Gnome, so we knew all along, really'.

The guitar sound on The Drowners, specifically, is what changed things. It was an incredibly audacious gesture (within equally limited parameters obviously) and at a stroke opened up the whole glamBowie era for thieving, including lumpy attempts at sexuality.

The Brett/Bowie interview was kind of a crowning moment, though I never really felt Bowie was particularly engaged. He's done the rest himself by not really putting a foot wrong since as 'cool older guy you'd love to be'.

Brett's line, when asked for his reaction afterwards, was 'he wafted in in a suit and smelt beautiful', which I always found oddly charming.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link

Songs I had on my ballot that placed (position on my list in brackets)
39. "Fantastic Voyage" (14)
34. "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)" (2)
22. "Stay" (11)
20. "John, I'm Only Dancing" (12)
19. "Look Back in Anger" (9)

I think Sweet Thing probably has the highest points/votes ratio, at least up to now. I think only StS has a chance to beat it, but it probably won't. At least three of my top 10 will still show up I'm sure. Looking forward to the final 15!

xpost - yeah I remember that interview. Maybe I've still got it stored somewhere...

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

I too went to the Sound & Vision Greatest Hits tour - August 1990 at Maine Road, Manchester...with James supporting! The NME infamously ran a campaign to get everyone to vote for The Laughing Gnome in Bowie's phone poll to decide the pool of songs he'd play on that tour. So that's approximately where he was wrt NME ten years before that cover upthread.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:04 (twelve years ago) link

"Absolute Beginners" the film - I put "That's Motivation" on my ballot. Doubtless, the only one 2 do so...

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

Re: Five Years, I've known Starman and Ziggy Stardust since I was a kid but I only heard FY about five ten years ago, on one of those Whistle Test repeat shows. It was an instant "holy shit!" moment and it's been my fave off that album ever since.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:21 (twelve years ago) link

x-post to Mark G: ha, doubtless, yes. Though I did like it when I saw the movie I'd never consider it one of this top 20 songs :)

Sound & Vision tour, sweet memories. I can remember a day long program on public radio during a sunday where people could vote for which songs were to be played. I'm sure Bowie didn't do anything with those polls, anywhere.
Ran into my German language teacher in the park where it was held. I had to look this up, but apparently we had Kim Wilde supporting, wtf.

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:29 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, and the only version of "Five Years" I know well enough to recall is Frank Sidebottom's...

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie has just been awarded a black plaque on the street where the Ziggy Stardust album cover was taken.

gazelleonstage, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

Seem to recall the S&V set in Manchester being fairly short - 15-16 songs, maybe? Started with Space Oddity and Adrian Belew's Pretty Pink Rose was in there fairly early on...FFS. Four wasted minutes right there. But, still, I was pretty excited. It was my 22nd birthday.

My brother saw him in Stafford in 1978 - this was the setlist that night:

Warszawa
"Heroes"
What in the World
Be My Wife
The Jean Genie
Blackout
Sense of Doubt
Speed of Life
Breaking Glass
Fame
Beauty and the Beast
Five Years
Soul Love
Star
Hang On to Yourself
Ziggy Stardust
Suffragette City
Art Decade
Alabama Song
Station to Station
Stay
TVC15
Rebel Rebel

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

xp Bowie won't even be there for the unveiling. Gary Kemp will be doing it instead.
That's like having a plaque put up for Robbie Williams and having Olly Murs unveil it instead.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

That's quite the setlist.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

No Sound & Vision? Wasn't that his biggest hit five years or something at that stage?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

biggest hit IN five years

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

He did three nights at the Bingley Halls in Stafford in June '78 and didn't do S&V at any of them! My brother raved about this show; he was a member at Eric's in Liverpool and saw any number of post-punk legends over the next year or so (followed Joy Div around on tour for a bit) but I don't think anything eclipsed seeing DB for the first time.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

Aha, re: Sound & Vision...

The track was initially performed live only once, at Bowie’s concert at Earl’s Court on July 1, 1978. However, in 1990, for Bowie’s Sound + Vision Tour, it was a regular number

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

What did the gigs look like at that time? What size was the venue? What did he wear?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago) link

When I listened to S&V off the album, comparitively recently, I was surprised at how short it is.

Actually, thinking now, is it not his 'version' of a song like "Gonna write a classic, gonna write it in an attic' Adrian Gurvitz?

I can imagine DBowie thinking it as a 'jingle' more than a song..

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

no spoilers

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

Photos from Bingley Hall, 1978:
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/youtube/id/TfMH8Xrob38

40min of live performance (for German TV? Not sure the 21/5/78 Bremen show was part of the tour):
http://youtu.be/_a9bt8XGNz8

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

The Tina Turner-Pepsi commerical is grislier than you guys remember. Note how Cool Bowie is Mullet Bowie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPsOrmAbyTM

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

They always like to think they are on *this* level, when they do these ads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi5zFQ9plxU

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

As for Suede...yeah, the blitzkrieg of promo interviews in spring '93 restored Bowie as a cool figurehead even in the States, but remember: the Suede album flopped here and BTWN disappeared too after Savage Records went under.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

I remember watching Velvet Goldmine at the pictures and [SPOILERS], at the end, when we have the faux-Bowie figure as a near-conservative corporate shill, I thought "Ooh, bitter fanboy. DB never sunk that low." But, actually...

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link

Well, for a spoiler, it took me 'the appearance of the character' right at the beginning for me to think "is that not him", so...

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:10 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, Bowie's route isn't such a bad place to end up. Look at how Iggy's doing it.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

Alice Cooper too.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 11:46 (twelve years ago) link

While we're waiting for the rest of the results to come in, and on the subject of Bowie in the 90s, I've just discovered this bizarre and amazing interview he conducted with Tricky for Q in 1995.

http://www.moon-palace.de/tricky/q95.html

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 8 March 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link

When I started buying the NME (bang in the middle of the britpop era) I think Bowie was fairly fashionable as an influence
(Pulp and Blur as well as Suede - even Oasis ended up covering "Heroes") but I seem to remember his then-current music getting fairly short shrift, especially Earthling. Hours... was sort of like "Well at least he's not jumping on bandwagons anymore". When those 1999 reissues came out, Uncut did a huge feature on him, which is when I started paying attention - I think he was the first pre-punk canon act I properly got into.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah the UNCUT Berlin feature in 2001 was fantastic; certainly the longest piece ever written on the subject at that point in a music mag (it was like 15 pages) and this was years before the Berlin books that came out too (the 33 and a 3rd Low book, the A New Career In A New Town book etc). the Bowie interview from the piece is here fyi http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/features/dbuncut.htm

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Fantastically informative interview, presumably via email. They must have been whooping in the office when his answers arrived.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

Hello! Here we go -- big finish.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

15. "Changes" (from Hunky Dory) - 597 points/27 votes/0 first-place votes

Album:http://youtu.be/pl3vxEudif8
from Ziggy Stardust: The Motion Picture: http://youtu.be/n8v486aUYu0

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:44 (twelve years ago) link

I had a manager called D4V3 CH1PCH4S3. Whenever he was out the office we'd sing "Ch-ch-ch-Ch1pchase/Turn and face the strange/Ch1pchase"

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

Life On Mars is a lock. Any others from Hunky Dory to come? Could Oh You Pretty Things sneak in?

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

I love the song Ziggy so much. I let it go by yesterday when I was distracted by something else.

(I'm struggling to think of locks btw, I can only name eight)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

(For a mo, I thought you worked with someone with a car numberplate for a name!)

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

My daughter became obsessed with this (via Shrek) just before her fifth birthday and requested it on a loop during the party games. Kind of a poignant message for a fifth birthday party.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

I could have a good guess at 12 of the 14. Then… pretty things? velvet goldmine? absolute beginners? Up the hill backwards? dunno.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think for the top 10 I'll just keep on posting youtube links instead of embeds.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

14. "Be My Wife" (from Low) - 608 points/24 votes/4 first-place votes

Official video: http://youtu.be/kB7skYEv_EM
Olympia, 2002: http://youtu.be/L-wp8JcWPqk

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Be My Wife is one of my favorite Bowie videos ever. So perfect.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

woops , sorry about youtubes

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

Quick guess at the top ten, no order

Rebel Rebel
Young Americans
Station To Station
Golden Years
Life On Mars
Sound and Vision
Ashes To Ashes
Heroes
Suffragette City
Jean Jeanie

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link

^ That's exactly my guess.
Top five: 1. Heroes, 2. Station to station, 3. Jean Genie, 4. Suffragette City, 5. Young Americans

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

Though such a high placing for "Station to station" is wishful thinking on my part

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

Can we not do guessing right before the top three or five? It's more fun to have them roll out totally fresh...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

Jean Genie was way upthread already @ #42!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

The Jean Genie has come and gone. Be My Wife was my #1 - glad to see it was so for more people.

dorsalstop, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Didn't we have Jean Genie?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

Now I look silly

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

xps

Jean Genie's placed - switch for Man who Sold the World?

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

sorry iago. i'll stop

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link

Whoops, I said "Jean Genie" but meant "Rebel rebel"
(Sorry for pre-guess / excited / can't follow roll-out today / annoyed)

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxxposts

Yes!! (high five to dorsalstop - excellent :-)
My number one. Such a rich little song. I loooooove the video, too. Bowie's fake guitar playing is always a blast, see also the "Rebel Rebel" performance on Toppop.

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

Am skipping past the prediction posts but... please stop kthxbye

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Oh man, going to go home now. Hopefully catch up with the thread by the time WmC's at #8 or so...

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Be My Wife was my no.3. Some days it'd've been no.1.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

OK no more predictions.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

he does look like Dot Cotton in the Be My Wife video.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

"Be My Wife" was the second single from Low after "Sound and Vision", but it became the first new Bowie release since "Changes" to fail to break into the UK charts.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Be_My_Wife)

who knew?! actually you probably all did.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

13. "Always Crashing in the Same Car" (from Low) 611 points/28 votes/ 1 first-place vote

Album: http://youtu.be/l2vEtfyveeY
VH1 Storytellers, 1999: http://youtu.be/avUqlvmuNp4

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

My best high school friend watched his bride come down the aisle to the accompaniment of "Be My Wife."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

Looooooove the video, esp Bowie's expression while playing guitar: "Oh well I might as well play this" (purses lips diffidently).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Pleasantly surprised to see "Always Crashing in the Same Car" place! Had no idea it was so beloved (it was my #7).

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

always crashing is my favorite proper song on the berlin albums

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

Surprised "Be My Wife" placed so high, good song for sure, just wouldn't have imagined quite so much love for it. "Always Crashing in the Same Car" definitely made my ballot though!

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

I'm surprised; now wondering what other oddities might show.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

post placement tripped me for a sec:

My best high school friend watched his bride come down the aisle to the accompaniment of "Be My Wife" "Always Crashing in the Same Car".

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not ignoring y'all btw, I'm just gathering videos.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link

Picking them from the trees, removing their hard, protective shells, and chucking them at us willy-nilly.

Oh wait, that's not videos, that's chestnuts.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

By the way, the two disc Best of Bowie dvd set of videos is essential.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

Take it to the Ballard thread, Woof.

Stevie T, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp Better than "Ashes to Ashes", I guess

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

I just ordered the Best of Bowie DVD specifically for the SECOND disc...hoping it will be a gateway for me to get into later Bowie

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

That box and the Ryko reissues absolutely cemented his reputation in the Classic Rock pantheon

Not only that, but the Rykos set the standard for CD reissues (rare bonus tracks!) A bunch of bands -- Elvis Costello and the Who, in particular -- modeled their reissue programs on Bowie's/Ryko's. Conversely, Bowie/Ryko might be to blame for the current era of endless reissues of the same material.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

there's shedloads of easter eggs on that Best Of Bowie DVD fyi:

Oh! You Pretty Things (The Old Grey Whistle Test - take 2)
Disc 1: Click on 'Play All' every 2nd time the alternative version will appear.

Interview with David Bowie and Russell Harty (before Drive-In Saturday)
Disc 1: Scroll down to Drive-In Saturday on the tracklisting display and press right button. An underscore _ will appear, press enter. Not to be confused with the hyphen in Drive-In.

Screen ad for forthcoming Ziggy Stardust DVD release (Hammersmith Odeon 1973)
Disc 1: Click on the lightning bolt logo on the tracklisting display.

Jazzin' For Blue Jean (complete promotional video)
Disc 1: Highlight the track and press right. Click on the ) symbol on the tracklisting display. You will notice the picture change on the right hand side. Highlight and press right.

Blue Jean (MTV edit recorded at The Wag Club, Soho, London)
Disc 1: Whilst you are playing the Jazzin' For Blue Jean video, when the girl goes to the jukebox to start the video - as soon as Bowie appears on the TV above the jukebox, click on enter.

Day In Day Out (Extended Mix)
Disc 2: Click on 'Play All' every 2nd time - the extended mix will appear.

Miracle Goodnight (Remix)
Disc 2: Play the 'Miracle Goodnight' video wait 5 minutes on the tracklist display and click enter.

Seven Years In Tibet (Mandarin version)
Disc 2: Click on the Mandarin symbol on the subtitle page.

Survive (Live in Paris)
Disc 2: Click on 'Play All' every 2nd time the live version will appear.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link

i've had that 2 dvd set for yrs and had no idea re easter eggs !

huzzah ..

mark e, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, Piscesx!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

no idea either!

On the other hand:

Day In Day Out (Extended Mix)

uhhh

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link

what do you mean by "every second time"?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

from here http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/features/eastereggs.htm

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

12. "The Man Who Sold the World" (from The Man Who Sold the World) - 628 points/29 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/qbsw_auCEEg
Saturday Night Live, 1979, with Klaus Nomi & Joey Arias: http://youtu.be/CpRI0LNoCoE
Nirvana @ MTV Unplugged: http://youtu.be/BlpczB4fUZo

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

It surprises me that 'Be My Wife' didn't really get anywhere as a single, because to me it's the one track on Low that stands out as obvious single. It easily made my ballot. No question, no hesitation.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

wow, be my wife video is so perfectly suited to the song, which I'm pretty sure made it into my top twenty. love love love it

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like I knew The Man Who Sold the World before Nirvana rehabilitated it, but I could be kidding myself. Impossible to tell - unless I could somehow get hold of every Radio 1 playlist from the late 70s to the late 80s.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Lulu do this live at 7am on breakfast tv maybe four years ago. It's just not right, live musical performances at that hour.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I knew the song/album well prior to Unplugged, and the first time I heard Nirvana's cover was in a Taco Bell. I immediately knew who/what it was, but it seemed insanely incongruous; I thought, "How am I hearing this song in this place?"

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

that's it for early bowie outside of life on mars, right?

iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

early meaning pre-ziggy

iatee, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I feel like I knew The Man Who Sold the World before Nirvana rehabilitated it, but I could be kidding myself

Ha, I know what you mean! But I'm p. sure that I recognised it tho when I watched Nirvana Unplugged.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

I never knew about the easter eggs either! Huge thanks.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Really hope "Velvet Goldmine" places up there. I love that song, esp. the spooky-ooky backing vocals.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link

Did anybody else vote for Black Country Rock or Janine? Those are my two favorite early Bowie songs.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link

Glad this song placed high. Love the multi-tracked, wordless vocals on the outro. Just a cool-sounding song.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link

wow, be my wife video is so perfectly suited to the song, which I'm pretty sure made it into my top twenty. love love love it

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel),

This. He looks downright miserable, perfect for the lyrics.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

was Velvet Goldmine a known track pre the Ryko reissues? i know that Sweet Head was utterly unknown until the Rykos.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

11. "Oh! You Pretty Things" (from Hunky Dory) - 630 points/30 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/wIXGDQtQJaM
Old Grey Whistle Test: http://youtu.be/bnXZ3R3OWpg

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

My #2

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

Classic.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm where is Speed of Life?

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link

(or did it already place and I just am not thinking right?)

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for Black Country Rock.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Three in a row for me, has me wondering if every song left will be on my ballot. Great song, classic indeed. Wonder why a song like this got no play on classic rock radio when I was a kid? Seems like it fits with a lot of other stuff that got play (such a huge chorus too!, made for the radio).

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Referring to "Oh! You Pretty Things" of course.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Velvet Goldmine a b-side? wikicheck, yes, eventually, to the 75 rerelease of Space Oddity. So full-on fans would likely know, casual listeners likely not.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

It was on the Ryko Ziggy though too, which was the first exposure many people had to that album.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for Black Country Rock.

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Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Does Classic Rock Radio go in for high campery?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

"Changes" still gets played a ton, as do the Ziggy singles.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Re: OYPT: love the casual way he sings lines like "All the nightmares came today/And it looks as though they're here to stay" (which then leads into the knees-up singalonga chorus)

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

was Velvet Goldmine a known track pre the Ryko reissues? i know that Sweet Head was utterly unknown until the Rykos.

was the opening track on an RCA 80s Bowies compilation called Rare, which also featured the fantastic Helden.

the fact i traded my copy for something else a few years later haunts me to this day

mark e, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

the 4 biggest Bowie staples on US classic rock radio: Under Pressure, Fame, Space Oddity and Changes

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Growing up, I heard Ziggy much more than Changes on classic rock radio. Under Pressure was too current to be classic rock.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah i'm going off recent stats. i'm sure if i had more complete stats there'd be several ziggy songs in the top 10 bowie songs

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

"All The Young Dudes" got a ton of play, doesn't seem like a whole other world away from that. "Get It On (Bang a Gong)" obviously got played a bunch. Not much high camp, but still, I NEVER heard this song until I heard the album proper, and it just seems like a song that would have fit the format of a bunch of stations from my youth.

Seems like a proto-"Changes" sonically, and the lyrics wouldn't have kept it off the air. I guess Bowie just had too many other hits to make room for a song like this. "Heroes" didn't even get much play (might hear it once a year or something), so I guess it isn't surprising, just seems like it could have gotten a spin once in a while. I might have gotten into Bowie earlier if the radio stretched the catalog a bit more.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

The local "good time oldies" -- as opposed to "classic rock" -- station is one of my presets when I'm out and about, and "Fame," "Let's Dance" and "Under Pressure" are the only things I can recall hearing in the last few years. Heard "Fame" just last week in fact.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

Okay, that makes sense. Classic Rock radio is a weird beast that rarely evolves.

xposts

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

...and the lyrics wouldn't have kept it off the air.

American stations in the 70s might have been skittish about the "bitch" line.

It's weird how "Who Are You" can have the f-word, The Stones can make a dead man cum and Jackie can give head in "Walk on the Wild Side", but other songs with lyrics less scary can't pass.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

"good time oldies" -- as opposed to "classic rock"

A paper-thin distinction in US radio programming that has always fascinated me. xp to myself

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

They used to play Rebel Rebel and Young Americans all the time on classic rock radio. Station To Station was where they got off the proverbial Bowie bus.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

It surprises me that 'Be My Wife' didn't really get anywhere as a single, because to me it's the one track on Low that stands out as obvious single.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican)

I've always wondered this too. It's such a catchy song, I've no idea why it wasn't as big as Sound & Vision. It was my number one and could be in my top ten songs of all time. That bass line in the chorus is unbeatable.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

oh shit, I'm late for the next one!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

TIME FOR THE TOP 10

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

10. "Rebel Rebel" (from Diamond Dogs) - 638 points/27 votes/0 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/W4SLXaF-lIc
Later with Jools Holland, 2002: http://youtu.be/7HyWXftUiWc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

The classic rock station I used to work for was the same way:

Young Americans
Changes
Space Oddity
Rebel Rebel
Ziggy Stardust
Suffragette City
Golden Years

maybe Fame, I can't remember.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Always remember the "Big Jet Airliner" song (or whatever it's called) by Steve Miller had the word "shit" in it, the Who song being the other big swear-word song I remember as a kid. Rolling Stone's "Bitch" certainly got play, but it always felt like the DJs were slipping one in when they played it.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

No more radio posts, back to the countdown!

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

^ read that in Casey Kasem's voice.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

In related news, happy birthday Gary Numan!

Yaaay Rebel Rebel. I love his trashy voice in this one.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really understand how someone can not like this song, honestly.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

What can I say about 'Rebel Rebel'? That guitar riff clearly was some kind of gift from the Gods.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

I love the guitar tone of Rebel Rebel, but one of my friends used to sing "Rubble Rubble" like the Hamburgler (we were 9 or 10) and I've never been able to shake it. Sort of takes the song somewhere else so I've never been able to rate it properly.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

That same station I worked for had a promise to its listeners that it would play classic rock songs without profanity. (this was late 90s/00s.) Our engineer would go in and digitally bowdlerize all these songs we'd talk about.

Even that bit in "Life In the Fast Lane" - Our version went "We've been up and down that highway, haven't seen a zchepp-ychepp thing."

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

also, the sad, Jagger-esque breakdown/coda annoys me.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

I don't really understand how someone can not like this song, honestly.

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:41 AM (52 seconds ago)

I don't actively dislike it, but it's never moved or grabbed me really.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

This one was an easy inclusion into my ballot. Some days I truly believe I could listen to that guitar riff endlessly.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

xps

I had a p decent classic rocl station; I heard Golden Years and Panic in Detroit

I def think AtYD is as much a cr staple as Under Pressure

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

US Radio is funny W/R/T Bowie: "Changes", "Space Oddity", "Fame" and "Young Americans" still get a fuckton of play on classic rock and oldies stations, at least up in the Boston area. "Let's Dance" and "Under Pressure" too. The other two big singles from "Let's Dance" you hear less but still occasionally, "Ashes to Ashes" gets some play on the near-extinct "modern rock" format, and that's basically it. I'm sure I've heard "Rebel Rebel" here and there, but that's basically it. I don't know if I've ever heard "Golden Years," one of his few top 10 hits in the States, on the radio. "Changes," on the other hand, missed the American top 40 entirely, yet I hear it all the fucking time. Which just goes to show that what we call a "hit" is deeply dependent on context of time and place, an obvious point that's often taken for granted.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

I don't actively dislike it, but it's not as good as the Jean Genie.

Mark G, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

Don't understand why Panic in Detroit doesn't get nonstop airplay on classic rock radio.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

This riff was featured by Howard Goodall in his C4 show (which I love) as a prime use of dissonance. I presume he meant the 'DUNNNN' at the end.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

"Rebel Rebel" is the best guitar riff Bowie will ever write, hands down.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

This poll has got me thinking whether Bowie might have been better served by never having a best-of at all. The distinction between canon and deep cut seems more and more arbitrary.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'd like Rebel Rebel more if it'd come out in '72, I think.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Rebel Rebel was definitely thw weakest of the early 70s stompy glammy rock hits imo. seemed looking back like a bit of a retread. you can see why it was the last of such things.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

It would be a fantasy come true to infiltrate the underground bunker in Texas or whatever spot they beam out the standard oldies/classic rock satellite feeds, and completely rewrite the playlists. xp to f.hazel

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone I've ever known who has super-loved Rebel Rebel has been female. Not that this means anything aside from the fact that the song appeals to women. Tore your dress, face is a mess, you're a hot tramp, I luv u, etc.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

I think I initially voted "Rebel Rebel" and "Ashes to Ashes" both because those are my fave Bowie karaoke songs.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe it's the repetition. Did you also vote for Station to Station?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

I love how the beat on RR is 4-on-the-floor just like "Satisfaction".

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

I love but don't "super-love" Rebel Rebel - it was top 10 for me. Mainly based on that riff - legions of Stones imitators would kill for less. I'm a dude.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

I shit you not, based on the requests I used to get, I wouldn't doubt that Rebel Rebel has its fans in the South for the usual dumb reasons.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Haven't read this thread properly, missed the whole poll unfortunately, but I have super-loved Rebel Rebel and am male btw.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

I shit you not, based on the requests I used to get, I wouldn't doubt that Rebel Rebel has its fans in the South for the usual dumb reasons.

Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

Lotta Star Wars fans down here.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

9. "Suffragette City" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 663 points/26 votes/2 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/S_68M0ilDe8
Live in Chile, 1990: http://youtu.be/oIAZWzmOdf8

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

XP - And what exactly would "the usual dumb reasons" be?

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

"Thought I saw you in an ice cream parlour...." That verse and the way he sings it, perfect

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

"She's a total blam-blam!"

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

zomg More excited for this top 10 than usual

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Don't you know, man, The South's Gonna Rise Again! xp to thewufs

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Suffragette City" is such a banger

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

This poll has got me thinking whether Bowie might have been better served by never having a best-of at all. The distinction between canon and deep cut seems more and more arbitrary.

Agreed that the best-ofs paint a poor picture, but isn't that because there's a huge distinction between canon and deep cuts? My Bowie education in my formative years came solely from Radio 1, they played more than you seem to get with us rock radio but I still had the idea it was one seamless wedge of pop, from Space Oddity thru Ziggy, Changes, Jean Genie, Rebel Rebel, Golden Years, Sound and Vision, Heroes, Ashes to Ashes, Let's Dance. i knew Ziggy the album had deeper prog tendencies but the Berlin period was a complete unknown to me.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Suffragette City is fabulous

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

XP - And what exactly would "the usual dumb reasons" be?

http://www.flagline.com/images/shirts/rebel.jpghttp://www.flagline.com/images/shirts/rebel.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

zchepp-ychepp

You know this is how Ewoks swear, right?

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ahh, I get it - I forgot what "rebel" still means to some people down there.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, I didn't mean that only women liked it, just that it has been a disproportionate favorite among my female friends.

Suffragette City is a great karaoke song!! I love his sleazy rock voice on both of these songs.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Those photos are broken on my browser - a link maybe?

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

Then again I can guess what they're depicting

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie definitely one of those artists who I kept finding new stuff by (I think I've about covered everything by now.)

I knew about "Let's Dance" and "Ziggy Stardust", but songs like "Rebel Rebel" and "Suffragette City" were ones that I had heard all my life and then one day discovered that, wait, that's David Bowie too?

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

Always thought "Suffragette" was by Sweet or somebody.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

re the deep cuts vs hits thing; in the Pegg book he posits the notion that Drive In Saturday isn't better known despite being a massivge hit, because it wasn't on ChangesOneBowie, the first 70s Best Of which *everyone* had.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

Then again I can guess what they're depicting

The dog off Champion the Wonder Horse amirite?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

This poll has got me thinking whether Bowie might have been better served by never having a best-of at all. The distinction between canon and deep cut seems more and more arbitrary.

Interesting. For many years the rockist consensus was that compilations best served him.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

as far as AOR radio play "Suffragette City" and "Modern Love" got lots of love in the early nineties on mine.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

Very interested for the rundown now of the top 8 now! Did not have "Rebel Rebel" or "Suffragette City" on my ballot. I guess I knew they had to be coming, but thought they might have placed in the 15-30 range or something, not top 10. Fun songs, just not "great" to me (riff for RR aside, which is total classic)

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link

I guess Cygnet Committee is out eh? Cmon Moonage Daydream...

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

Moonage Daydream!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

I've given up hope that any of my The Man Who Sold The World picks will make it.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Great band performance on Suffragette City, and beautifully mixed on the record. Obv the opening power chords are amazing and the piano part throughout is great "air piano" material but there's also those whoosing sax+(?)moog bits going on underneath.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

This poll has got me thinking whether Bowie might have been better served by never having a best-of at all. The distinction between canon and deep cut seems more and more arbitrary.

It might have presented his body of work more accurately or whatever, but as piscesx notes, Changesonebowie was huge. Big gateway for me into his catalog.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

*whoosh-ing

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

Changesonebowie was huge. Big gateway for me into his catalog

Same here. In fact, i was the one who voted for it in the albums ballot for that reason.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

there is no room anymore for Little Drummer Boy and DJ.

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

It wasn't the first record of his that I bought, but after Ziggy, Heroes and Stage, I thought "hmmm, what next? I need guidance." and bought Changesone.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

DJ *must* make it

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

wow, who knew what a momentous thing it was at the time that I bought changestwo instead of changesone because I liked the cover better, not really knowing any of the songs.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

lol i voted for "little drummer boy"

some dude, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

DJ *must* make it

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:13 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

should have voted :(

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

8. "Moonage Daydream" (from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars) - 729 points/31 votes/3 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/dE4Mu_cZcIA
Hammersmith Odeon, 1973: http://youtu.be/5g6--QoPsDM

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

THE CHURCH OF MAN-LOVE

or

THE CHURCH OF MAN, LOVE

??

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

yes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link

Cool, knew this would make it

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

aw, my number one. most bonkers love song ever.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

The 1990 changesbowie was big for me - i had tapes of two or three of the 70s albums, but they never wholly took – don't necessarily inspire love-at-first-hearing if you have a sweet tooth & don't lean glam. Hit-after-hit gave me more enthusiasm & meant I put a bit more into the albums, looked around, found 'my' bowie.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

I'M AN ALLIGATOR!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Never in doubt. Great song.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

Another one of those that I wished I'd had room for on my ballot. Love this song.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

Freak out!
Far out!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

I imagine that soon we will start getting some big spikes in points/first place votes? Has been a slow and steady rise so far.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno, there's not too much consensus on bowie is there

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

I have a list of 8 songs left I thought would place... guessing either Golden Years or DJ aren't gonna place.

smash williams, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

That instrumental break!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm, guess not, just seems to be a pattern in other polls maybe? At some point there are songs that almost everyone places on a 20 song ballot? Maybe not, would be cool if that does not happen.

I hope "Golden Years" does not steal a spot from something else I voted for.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'm really not expecting 'Red Sails' to place at this point.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

haha no, I am sad about that, had my HINTERLAND! posts all set to go.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

it will be bizzare if the only STS song not to place is Golden Years

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno about that, i only had 2 tracks in the top half of my ballot that i suspected would make the top of this list (unless Strangers When We Meet is somehow top 5 (this would be awesome))

was DJ a single? it never stood out to me really

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

That instrumental break!

I want to use the word 'fruity' but don't wish to imply the derogatory connotations. Someone help me out.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link

It always sounded like an army of toy instruments to me.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

Therefore, it was clearly being played by animals, probably monkeys.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

haha no, I am sad about that, had my HINTERLAND! posts all set to go.

― woof, Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hehehehehe... the very same! THUNDER OCEAN! :D

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

animatronic?

Spectrist, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

It's like Willy Wonka's candy band

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

I want to use the word 'fruity' but don't wish to imply the derogatory connotations. Someone help me out.

Anthony Newley/music hall influence? He never let go of that entirely, just incorporated other stuff.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

sorry, that was a xpost. makes me think of country bear jamboree.

Spectrist, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

7. "Young Americans" (from Young Americans) - 814 points/34 votes/2 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/ScVi_L817ec
Bowie & Cher on The Cher Show, 1975: http://youtu.be/_z9b0GFRz9g
Dick Cavett Show, 1974: http://youtu.be/xFudBQcplj4

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Like the dioramas at House on the Rock in Wisconsin

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Yes, I hadn't had that thought but it makes sense xps re Newley

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

YAAAAAAAAAY Young Americans!!

TOP TEN
TOP TEN

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

Instrumental break on "Moonage Daydream" assuredly a Zappa influence? Sounds like instrumentation from "Peaches en Regalia" or something. Was Bowie a Zappa fan?

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

young americans is undeniable

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

Weird, none of the STS songs made it onto mine, I don't think. Perhaps i need to give that a relisten.

Hell, this weekend I might go through all the 70s Bowie albums!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Could not deny "Young Americans", though it would have been bumped if I voted for instrumentals. Classic for sure though.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Ain't there one damn song that can make me...

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

Was Bowie a Zappa fan?

If he had any sense at all, he was.

*rides personal hobbyhorse into sunset*

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Young Americans" was my no. 1. Also, the T-Rex song "All Alone" is sort of a spiritual brother to this song, I always felt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxniXcBj3o

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

i think this comp has done much to restore people's love for post peak Bowie, tying in as it did with 2 previously issued Best Ofs from the 70s
http://d.yimg.com/ec/image/v1/release/45179428;encoding=jpg;size=300;fallback=defaultImage
it's the only decent 80s comp in fact and the tracklist is just about bang on.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

Did anyone watch that Bowie and Cher clip? It's bonkers. A six and a half minute medley ("Young Americans" starts it off, but only for about 30 seconds). Whoa.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

Well, there is a surprise at the end that I won't spoil.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Gosh, Young Americans seems ... too low? Was my no.1 easily until I got fussy and started bumping the big hits. What six songs can outscore it?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

That clip is pretty hysterical. He was a pretty good sport for doing that; aka "knew what side his checkbook was buttered on"

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I have exactly 6 songs left on my ballot.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

I am pretty sure I know what four of the remaining six will be, but the other two I cannot guess.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

6. "Golden Years" (from Station to Station) - 869 points/35 votes/3 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/7pSw6Dz3-8E
Lip-syncing on Soul Train: http://youtu.be/7bYOZdM2tpg
Vancouver, 1983: http://youtu.be/Z8XrsvbV90c

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

wah wah wah

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

That Bowie & Cher thing...

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

AYYYYYNGEEEEEL!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

Ahhh bummer. Can guess what will not make it from my ballot now. Really people?

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

one from the album he doesn't recall making.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link

Never in doubt. Great song.

― Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012

+ substitute 'Near-perfect' for 'Great'. Was originally low down in my top 10 then I re-listened and bumped it up to #2. There is so much going in the arrangement.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

wow, looks like turrican is right... station to station is going to get full representation. golden years is awesome, although it didn't make it onto my ballot.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

people on the internet have too much time on their hands: http://youtu.be/eJBXKl6OvMY

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

is posting guesses at the top five bad poll etiquette or would that be fun?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

I do like it, just not top 10 for me. Or 20 obviously. Almost made it for "AYYYYYNGEEEEEL" alone though.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

fuck... no velvet goldmine??? :(

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

i know waht the top 5 is with 99% confidence so i'm not gonna post it

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

is posting guesses at the top five bad poll etiquette or would that be fun?

Not to toot my own horn (well, maybe a little) but I think I got the top 5 right yesterday.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think I know... but what order!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

wow, looks like turrican is right... station to station is going to get full representation. golden years is awesome, although it didn't make it onto my ballot.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:58 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It didn't make it onto my ballot either. There is a track from Station To Station that DID make it onto my ballot that hasn't been mentioned yet, though! ;)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

plz no more predictions

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

is there a spotify playlist? i might just make my own

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

people on the internet have too much time on their hands: http://youtu.be/eJBXKl6OvMY

Elvis saying "I just gotta have a hamburger" at the end of that makes me think this is a fake, but I've heard weirder. That is what he's saying at the end, right?

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

So excited that Don't Sit Down has a shot at the top 5. Everybody....yeah yeah baby yeah.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

Don't understand why Panic in Detroit doesn't get nonstop airplay on classic rock radio.

It used to in Detroit, obv (maybe still does)

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

TOP FIVE

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

POINT JUMP

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

(Elvis & Bowie is fake, though after that Cher clip, I don't blame anyone for wondering.)

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

5. "Heroes" (from "Heroes") - 1213 points/48 votes/6 first-place votes

Official Video: http://youtu.be/Tgcc5V9Hu3g
Top of the Pops, 1977: http://youtu.be/EZlTrFcoHn0
Undated performance (looks like early 2000s): http://youtu.be/YYjBQKIOb-w

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link

too high!

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting. For many years the rockist consensus was that compilations best served him.

I've heard so many people say this, "You only need a best-of", it still riles me.

Re: Bowie on classic rock radio, I don't really know about that but the numerous 'rock' bars in my hometown stick rigidly to a Bowie canon which consists of 'Jean Genie', 'Rebel Rebel', 'Let's Dance' and NOTHING else.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

too high!

― piscesx, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:15 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

o_O

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

It took me a long time to really get into this song. Not until I read Bowie in Berlin about how the lyrics were inspired and Fripp's guitar playing did it hit me.

pplains, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, yeah, love this song to death. Not even the rash of terrible covers could ruin it for me.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe this is a little too high, but it still managed to make it onto my ballot at #12.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

WOAH that Elvis clip is so rad, fake as it may be.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

wow, I've assumed all along that "Heroes" would win this. Put it fairly low down on my ballot consequently.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Heroes is great but i've always found it sort of boring.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

folk say that it was Live Aid that made Heroes a well known/ well loved song. it wasn't a big hit amazingly on release.

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

has this site been mentioned yet? it's amazing and his take on "heroes" is worth reading. addresses the weird way it's sometimes taken up, especially if you only hear the single edit and not the full album version.

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

For those introduced via the Sound + Vision box set, who initially knew it as "Helden," sung in German:

http://youtu.be/zThrV79Y7ck

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2011/05/11/heroes/

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Love the perpetual-motion-machine nature of the riff juxtaposed against the eterna-sustain of Fripp's soloing. And DB's vocal progression through the song.

Is there a short breakdown of what inspired the lyrics?

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie pushed it big in Europe, hence 'Helden' (is there a 'Héros'?)

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

^^^would like to thank this man for providing me hours of reading enjoyment

xxp

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

I tend to play the French version ("Héros") nowadays because it hasn't been played to death by me like "Heroes" and "Helden". I had it low on my ballot but it's undeniable.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

I'll be reading that 'Bowiesongs' site much more thoroughly after this poll is over, definitely.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

seriously, even if you are a crazy person who finds "Heroes" boring check out that bowiesongs blog because it rules!

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

xp!

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

xxp

:(

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

lol I was almost banned from the website cuz I picked a fight with an idiot who got outraged when I blandly suggested that Phil Collins and Tina Turner made much better pop albums in the eighties than David Jones.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link

I'm waiting for the bowiesongs book before I dig in too deep so I can throw some money at him. His work is amazing.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah i read through that blog a bunch last week, haven't made it through "Heroes" yet tho. Wish there was a blog like that for every artist ever. Really amazing work!!!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

"Héros", in case you hadn't heard it:

http://youtu.be/van4ZFqTM3k

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't know he was writing a book! i will buy a hundred copies and hand them out on street corners. he is a marvel, that guy. david bowie, too.

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Wish the concept of cutting German and French language versions of singles would catch on more among Anglo recording artists... seems way more common in other countries compared to the US/UK. Since I heard the German version of Heroes so many times first, the English one always sounds somewhat odd!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Great Sound on Sound piece about the recording of this track.

Brad C., Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

changesesperantobowie

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

“Pushing Ahead of the Dame” will be published in book form (likely two volumes) by Zero Books. The book will have a better title."

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

yay! i like "pushing ahead of the dame," though!

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

xps

yeah, I'll def buy the book (or books - he's talked about 2 vols) – really enjoy the website. I'm guessing it won't have the illustrations, which is a shame (in fact I think it's Zero books, so I think it'll look a bit rough, from what little I've seen of their titles).

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Was common until the Beatles xps. Shakira's the only artist who really does it any more. And Kraftwerk.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I for one am amazed Heroes ain't No. 1.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I resisted reading that blog, thinking I'm not enough of a Bowie fan. But I'm reading the "Heroes" entry and HOLY SHIT this guy's onto something.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I am following this countdown on my phone. I never even look at ILX on my phone. This how much I love David Bowie.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

Syntax breakdown.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp hearing The Beatles chortling their way through 'Sie Liebe Dich' is something

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

4. "Station to Station" (from Station to Station) - 1250 points/42 votes/12 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/ZY77zDzNmYw
From the "Serious Moonlight" concert film, 1983: http://youtu.be/O59CD81UAzw
Live 1978, great Belew intro if you're a fan: http://youtu.be/EEWgIzm7F2U

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

What else does one do with a phone?!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

too low!

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I for one am amazed Heroes ain't No. 1.

― kraudive, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:29 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is kind of how i feel but i am also mad at you guys for no "DJ'!!!!!

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

Thought S2S was going to takeit.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station my number 1 by an amazingly huge margin.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

Awesome.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

My #1 too, but it was tight. The post that got me into it:

Best Bit of Station to Station

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

It really is by far the best album. IMO.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

I *finally* know what all the remaining tracks will be.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

Time Will Crawl, Won't Win.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

too low!

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:32 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

Knew this would be high, and would have been happy with it beating my #1 (which was Heroes). What now?

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link

This was my #3! One of my favourite opening tracks to one of my favourite albums ever made.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

I love his look in this Christine F. clip of "Station To Station":

http://youtu.be/KxtqJxq2yck

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

12 first-place votes

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

too low!

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:32 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), 2012. ožujak 08 19:35 (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

too low!

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:32 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), 2012. ožujak 08 19:35 (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― gospodin simmel, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:37 PM (10 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ad infinitum

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

TOO HIGH! (in every sense)

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

A bazillion xposts, but this clip of Iggy Pop and Lenny Kravitz doing "Rebel Rebel" should forever be held against any measure of the song's greatness:

http://youtu.be/GLxirL-fOz4

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

btw I posted links upthread to the pushing ahead entries for the first couple of days of tracks, will do a full set when it's through.

confession - bowie isn't always my favourite artist to listen to (got a bit stuck for a fifth album in my ballot tbh), but I do think he is more or less the most interesting person to think about and read about and watch in rock, or rock canon or popular music or something.

S2S quite incredible. I put it too low, can't remember why.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

xpost:

I'm sorely resisting temptation to click on that link!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Resisting temptation to post top 3 all at once!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station my number 1 by an amazingly huge margin.

― EZ Snappin, Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:33 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too. one of the greatest songs recorded in history.

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

confession - bowie isn't always my favourite artist to listen to (got a bit stuck for a fifth album in my ballot tbh), but I do think he is more or less the most interesting person to think about and read about and watch in rock, or rock canon or popular music or something.

― woof, Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:40 PM (1 minute ago)

Get out!

I'll confess - I'm stuck on what one of the last 3 is.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Don't post them all. At least one more by itself.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that China Girl got shut out here?

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

Am I right in thinking that China Girl got shut out here?

― Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, March 8, 2012 12:46 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iggy's version is way better IMO

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

xp Oh, I won't. Definitely going to let y'all bathe in your own adrenaline for 20 minutes before #1.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

So "Sound and Vision" is in the top 3 right?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

iggy's version is way better IMO

OTM

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp Bbbbbut I gotta leave in about half an hour!

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

I think so. I had high hopes for a song that I cannot imagine is gonna place now, pretty sure I know what's up next (though no idea about the order).

I really thought once Heroes went down that Station to Station was it.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

I think so was in relation to China Girl getting shut out BTW

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Can't guarantee I'll finish in half an hour, but here's #3.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

3. "Sound and Vision" (from Low) - 1272 votes/50 votes/2 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/6IJsAuUgSgc
Live by Request, 2002: http://youtu.be/GYEOlxcirX0

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

Don't really understand that. Sorry.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

some amazing stuff which got shut out, 'Memories of a Free Festival', 'Jump They Say', 'Strangers When We Meet'. Unless they've miraculously sneaked in at the end.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

loved this progression:

Heroes - 1213/48/6
S2S - 1250/42/12
S+V - 1272/50/2

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

i think "sound and vision" would have been my number 1

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

S&V is NEAR PERFECTION, a masterclass in deceptive simplicity. All the elements seem like they could come from completely different songs yet they slot perfectly into place, one by one. The funky bass, the rockin' drums, the slightly more staid guitar. The synth that descends from heaven like a chariot of the gods, and the girl-group throwback 'doo-doo-doos'. Even the saxophone blundering in like a drunken pantomime horse, I just want to give it a big hug. And finally Bowie himself, low and soft and close, welcoming you in to his reverie.

I'd only change two things about it: make it twice as long - or one hundred times as long; and get rid of that fucking cymbal that dominates the left channel - seriously when someone pointed that out it almost ruined the song for me.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

Good song. Here's the David Bowie vs. 808 State version I would hear at parties in late '91/early '92:

http://youtu.be/1X6UR6E9xXk

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

sound and vision just seems really out of place in this top 5 alongside all the big theatrical weird epic tracks. it's nice, but it's kind of simple, breezy, and straightforward and i'm not entirely sure how it came to be one of his most highly regarded songs

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

what's wrong with simplicity when it's perfect

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

blue blue electric blue
that's the color of my room
where i will live
(blue blue)

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

The snare sound on "Sound & Vision" (and the rest of Low, obviously) was by far the best of Bowie's career.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i like the song, i'm just trying to point out how different it looks placed alongside the other 4 (since we all know what the top 2 are)

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Testament to Bowie's chameleon career.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

My #4 -- I wish I'd switched it with my 2nd spot now.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

My #2. Such a great song, doesn't need the bombast at all to great.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

I'm kinda with ciderpress on this one. I love this song to bits, but I don't quite know how it came above many, MANY songs in this poll. It didn't make my ballot.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

50 votes

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

well i mean you guys voted "beauty and the beast" all the way down at number 57 or something, when it clearly should have been higher. this is what happens with polls.

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

One of the top two I don't get the love for btw. I hope the other wins.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

^ seconded but I feel like we probably each like the opposite

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think probably so

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

sound and vision is like going to a spa or something, feels like a fancy song

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

i don't want to give anything away, but there may be a planet involved

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

Re: S&V, I actually prefer the 1990 remix (unlike "Fame", "Look back in anger")

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

One of the top two I don't get the love for btw. I hope the other wins.
^this, although I dunno if we mean the same 'other'. In my case, the other was my #1.

xposts

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

my #6. Has a kind of calmness, clarity and balance that's not really in much else by him. Loved it as a single on compilations, and later loved how it sits in Low - frenzy, depression, fragments all around it, but there's this one precise, perfect thought sitting there.

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

'Heroes' is Bowie's 'Purple Rain'...never particularly liked either...kinda bummed at some of these placings but hey whaddayaiknow

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

I'm really nervous

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

i don't understand what you mean unless you just mean they're both "big songs." they don't seem similar in other ways.

xp

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, it is a fancy song. Wonder just what that blue room would look like.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

my #6. Has a kind of calmness, clarity and balance that's not really in much else by him. Loved it as a single on compilations, and later loved how it sits in Low - frenzy, depression, fragments all around it, but there's this one precise, perfect thought sitting there.

― woof, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:03 PM (6 seconds ago)

I agree with this strenuously.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

i don't want to give anything away, but there may be a planet involved

'Peace on Earth/Little Drummer Boy'?

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Let's see if everybody's guesses are right.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

2. "Ashes to Ashes" (from Scary Monsters) - 1367 points/51 votes/2 first-place votes

Album: http://youtu.be/j-IkC3isMoc
Live at the Beeb, 2000: http://youtu.be/6Q3r6fkZTpk
Live by Request: http://youtu.be/unuo-fdhbXs

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

'Sound & Vision' is Bowie's 'Coffee and TV'

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

They are kinda of both there big bombastic songs and there both a bit dirge like and the 2 songs that always get trotted out...

xp

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

Awwwwwwww crapola.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I was 8 years old when Ahses to Ashes would have been getting radio play. Definitely more than enough mystical freakish weirdness in the music, lyrics, and video for a kid that age. I think it's part of my subconscious now. Was my #3, could've been my #1. Should've been my #2 at least, instead of S&V.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Asses to Asses.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

Gah, wrong one!

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

i was really blown away to find out that ashes to ashes was a hit single, it's one of the weirdest, least cohesive pop songs ever written

it's so good

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

life on mars is number one then for sure huh?

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

British time-time-travelling cop show 1-2?

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

Ashes to Ashes was my #1. It's perfect.

nate woolls, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

"Ashes to ashes" got bumped from my ballot at the last second but I would've put it #1 in a heartbeat if I'd known anybody cared about a crappy Sinatra ripoff

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I was 7 when this was on the radio, and it fucking mystified me for sure. I would totally stop what I was doing when it came on the radio. My #4, great great song.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link

I love the clever little hocket at the end. A three-bar chord progression with a four-bar lyric

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

it is a good song, but i am kind of surprised it placed so high! maybe i'm missing something

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

My #16!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

i was really blown away to find out that ashes to ashes was a hit single, it's one of the weirdest, least cohesive pop songs ever written

it's so good

The bowiesongs entry is OTM about how weird the arrangement is... I didn't vote for it but it's an amazing song.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link

Funny thing is I always thought I hated Ashes To Ashes, but walking around with it on headphones recently I couldn't deny it. It's brilliant.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

the synthpads at the end are so unsettling

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

iirc "Ashes to ashes" and "Heroes" were routinely #1 and #2 on Bowie Usenet polls in the 90s

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

I cut Ashes to Ashes because I knew it would be ok without me. Was right!

Also horseshoe -- if you did not vote, you should have :-/

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

As a kid that "I've never done good things, I've only done bad things" line really got me. As well as the "You better not mess with Major Tom" bit at the end, which of course didn't make any sense to me, but made it all the more creepy.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

like everything about the song is askew...the verse is in a different key than the funky intro bit and comes in halfway through a bar, the bridge is completely different in the first and second verses, etc

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

i totally should have voted.

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

i have memories of ashes to ashes as a little kid but i was confused so much because there was that other "major tom" song and i obviously didn't even know "space oddity" so i thought major tom was some real person or something who i didn't know

it was all mysterious

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

tbh the idea of ranking bowie songs vis-a-vis each other seemed impossible

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

Think I first heard "Ashes to Ashes" as a teenager around 1997. What's weird is how out-of-time it sounds - if you'd never heard song or artist before there's no way your brain would say "early 80s" based on the production. It sounds a lot more like what was on the radio in 1997 than in 1980.

wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

The bit in the video where he's sitting in an ejection seat in the middle of a suburban kitchen was just o_O to me as a kid.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

If Ashes To Ashes loses by one point...

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

...to The Laughing Gnome?

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

fingers crossed

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Ashes to Ashes has some mutant Al Green falsetto stuff in it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

that would be ideal

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link

Old lady chattering enthusiastically to sullen Major Tom on beach = greatest image ever.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

OK! The big finish.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

tbh the idea of ranking bowie songs vis-a-vis each other seemed impossible

― horseshoe, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:15 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
true, but we all feel that way and we still did it!
i just went with purely emotional choices and hasty decisions -- probably made a lot of bad calls (look back in anger is better than cygnet committee...I GUESS) but who cares. no one is going to hang me by my ballot, at least i hope not!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link

Jeez, almost posted it on the Paul Simon thread.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

Old lady chattering enthusiastically to sullen Major Tom on beach = greatest image ever.

That's not Major Tom, that's uh... the Pierrot. Who he is, idk.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

xxp Bowie Holy Holy Wars

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

1. "Life on Mars?" (from Hunky Dory) - 1463 points/55 votes/4 first-place votes

Official video: http://youtu.be/v--IqqusnNQ
at Fashion Rocks, 2005: http://youtu.be/HIFmNRDuM3Y

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

SAY-looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooors fighting-in-the-dance-hall

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

(this was my #6)

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link

always thought it was Major Tom as Pierrot.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I never thought this would win.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, there it is! My #1!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

i was obsessed with "life on mars?" as a teenager and now i feel like i've lost that feeling of thunderstruck-ness at it. hate to be predictable, but the bowiesongs post on it is excellent.

horseshoe, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

My #20, but glad it's #1.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

best poll ever.
ta muchly for all the effort wmc !
i didn't send in a sub cos i couldn't break down my faves.
every single track in this list could be a top 5 for me.
simple as that.

mark e, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

xxxxp He seems to be more a commentator than an alter-ego but yeah maybe.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Bonus video: Bowie sees into the future, notices this poll, and performs both of the top 2 on The Tonight Show in 1980:

http://youtu.be/NkefglL9c4c

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks wmc! Now I can go to the pub.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks for doing this WmC!

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

I've always been fond of the chord changes in 'Life On Mars?', and of course Wakeman's piano playing.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

Wonderful job WmC, and great votes all around. Kudos to all who participated.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp b-b-but you'll miss the hours and hours of recriminations and arguments oh right *gets coat*

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

Life On Mars? was my #4.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC! You did a great job! Everyone's rolling out their picks now, correct? Thanks too for everyone not guessing their top fives or threes in advance, made it more suspenseful, at least for me

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot, fwiw:

1. Life On Mars? (#1)
2. Word On A Wing (#45)
3. Station To Station (#4)
4. Look Back In Anger (#19)
5. Be My Wife (#14)
6. Stay (#22)
7. Red Sails (did not place)
8. Rebel Rebel (#10)
9. Fashion (#32)
10. Subterraneans (did not place)
11. Starman (#18)
12. "Heroes" (#5)
13. It's No Game (No. 1) (#40)
14. V-2 Schneider (did not place)
15. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (#49)
16. Ashes To Ashes (#2)
17. Fantastic Voyage (#39)
18. Blackout (#55)
19. Drive-In Saturday (#27)
20. Sons Of The Silent Age (#60)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC, this was fabulous.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS

Totally LOVE LOVE LOVE his look in the "official video" -- the suit, the makeup, the colors, everything. it reminds me of when i went to work one day and my coworker told me i looked like liberace. i said no, i look like david bowie. <3 <3

excellent #1
thanks WmC for your diligence!!

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

Yay!!!! "Life on Mars?" was my #1 of course.

I'm really conflicted about "Ashes to Ashes". I like lots of little things about the song. But I can't really love it. Back in 1980, I didn't really understand it. And TBH I'm still not sure what Bowie is trying to say. (True of lots of Bowie songs, sure, but here the lyrics are so memorable you want to 'get' it. And I don't really.)

Favourite bit: the mumbly echo in the "I've never done good things" section.

Favourite parody (of song and video): Lufthansa Terminal.

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC! Wonderful poll!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

My #8, though easily could have been lower (sorry). Middle of my ballot got pretty arbitrary, but I do love this song. Happy enough with it at #1.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

I've always been fond of the chord changes in 'Life On Mars?', and of course Wakeman's piano playing.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, March 8, 2012

That's because it's "My Way"...isn't that right? Doesn't he even give backhanded thanks to Sinatra in the liner notes? I think there was bad blood from Bowie to Sinatra for some reason, maybe the former wanted to play him in a biopic and Frank said something like, "not that pansy" or something?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC!

My ballot, w/all its "Outside" loving bullshit:

1. Station to station
2. Queen Bitch
3. Quicksand
4. I'm deranged
5. Five years
6. The man who sold the world
7. Look back in anger
8. A small plot of land
9. "Heroes"
10. Cat people (soundtrack version)
11. Golden years
12. Drive-in Saturday
13. Sound and vision
14. Candidate (demo)
15. Fantastic voyage
16. Breaking glass
17. No control
18. Dead man walking

19. Kooks
20. Ziggy Stardust

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Hah, i just made fun of "Andrew in Draaaaaaag" in the Magnetic Fields thread. But I love "Maaaaaaaaars"!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

great stuff, thanks WmC

Striking Minors (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

Misquoted the "Ashes to Ashes" lyrics above, of course. He never did good things or bad things, which was what was confusing to me as a kid.

Thanks WmC!

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

My list...totally got the lp's wrong...Low and Station To Station should of been in there

1.Win
2.Life On Mars
3.It's Gonna Be Me
4.It's No Game
5.Sweet Thing
6.Fashion
7.Ashes To Ashes
8.Kooks
9.Beauty And The Beast
10.Changes
11.Young Americans
12.Golden Years
13.The Bewley Brothers
14.The Secret Life Of Arabia
15.Breaking Glass
16.Quicksand
17.African Night Flight
18.Stay
19.Right
20.We Are The Dead

LP's
1.Hunky Dory
2.Young Americans
3.Scary Monsters And Super Creeps
4.Aladdin Sane
5.Space Oddity

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

1. Blackout
2. Cracked Actor
3. Be My Wife
4. Baal's Hymn
5. The Bewlay Brothers
6. Breaking Glass
7. Andy Warhol
8. Fame
9. Ziggy Stardust
10. DJ

11. Port Of Amsterdam
12. The Dirty Song
13. Subterraneans
14. A New Career In A New Town
15. You've Been Around

16. Young Americans
17. Oh! You Pretty Things
18. Warszawa
19. Yassassin

20. Let's Dance

Albums:
1. Low
2. Lodger
3. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
4. Black Tie, White Noise
5. Heathen

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

IT'S THE FREAK-Y-EST SHOOOOOOW!

huh i didn't know about the sinatra thing

sinatra was a total piece of shit person right?

anyway Life on Mars is as good a winner as any, my number 2, but yeah I could have easily done 20 more tracks, heck even 30...and many really could have been number 1

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot:

Songs:

1Station to Station
2 Life on Mars
3 Heroes
4 Ziggy Stardust
5 Boys Keep Swinging
6 Speed of Life
7 Young Americans
8 Golden Years
9 Stay
10 Ziggy Stardust
11 Sound and Vision
12 Under Pressure
13 Kooks
14 Ashes to Ashes
15 Modern Love
16 Changes
17 Panic in Detroit
18 Suffragette City
19 John I'm Only Dancing
20 TVC 15

Albums:

1 Station to Station
2 Hunky Dory
3 Alladin Sane
4 Low
5 Ziggy Stardust

the wild eyed boy from soundcloud (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Great job as always WmC. Awesome countdown, any one of the top 5 (and several in the teens or twenties for that matter) I could see taking the top spot with no surprise.

Spectrist, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Somebody want to post the full run-down of the top 60?

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Glad everyone enjoyed it! Thanks to chap for letting me grab the wheel and drive off the cliff.

Ballots were coming in fast and furious at the end, so apparently I lost count -- I thought we hit 80, but I only have 78 #1 votes in the googledoc. That might have been a transcription error as I entered numbers. I am reasonably confident that nobody's ballot got left out like I did in the Zep voting.

Speaking of that spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alm9ijj_zohtdEE3cnJuQmpxRG81amdfWVZPaDg0Vmc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you so much WmC. Best artist poll so far (content & handling).

My ballot:

Tracks

1. Life On Mars?
2. Golden Years
3. The Jean Genie
4. Fame
5. Aladdin Sane (1913-1938-197?)
6. Suffragette City
7. Fashion
8. Space Oddity
9. Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps)
10. Stay
11. Moonage Daydream
12. Drive In Saturday
13. Win
14. "Heroes"
15. Time
16. Let's Spend The Night Together

17. The Secret Life of Arabia
18. Cat People (Putting Out Fires)
19. Young Americans
20. Alabama Song

Albums

1. Aladdin Sane
2. "Heroes"
3. Young Americans
4. Low
5. ChangesOneBowie

Jeff W, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

Can we get the full 175 please?

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot, bold didn't place:

Station To Station
Five Years
Yassassin (Turkish For: Long Live)
Life On Mars?
What In The World
Thru' These Architects Eyes
Always Crashing The Same Car
Oh! You Pretty Things
Word On A Wing
Ashes To Ashes
Blue Jean
Looking For Satellites

Move On
Sons Of The Silent Age
Sound And Vision
Modern Love
TVC 15
Strangers When We Meet
Heroes
Hallo Spaceboy

TOP 5 ALBUMS
Station To Station
Stages
Lodger
Outside
The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link

1 34. "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)" (from Diamond Dogs) - 356 points/12 votes/3 first-place votes
2 4. "Station to Station" (from Station to Station) - 1250 points/42 votes/12 first-place votes
3 3. "Sound and Vision" (from Low) - 1272 votes/50 votes/2 first-place votes
4 22. "Stay" (from Station to Station) - 497 points/24 votes/1 first place vote
5 43. "Warszawa" (from Low) - 291 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
6 1. "Life on Mars?" (from Hunky Dory) - 1463 points/55 votes/4 first-place votes
7 55. "Blackout" (from "Heroes") - 229 points/11 votes/1 first-place vote
8 6. "Golden Years" (from Station to Station) - 869 points/35 votes/3 first-place votes
9 2. "Ashes to Ashes" (from Scary Monsters) - 1367 points/51 votes/2 first-place votes
10 24. "Modern Love" (from Let's Dance) - 476 points/23 votes/0 first-place votes
11 56. "Cat People (Putting Out Fire)" (w/Giorgio Moroder; Cat People soundtrack; Let's Dance) - 220 points/10 votes/0 first-place votes
12 25. "Queen Bitch" (from Hunky Dory) - 467 points/21 votes/0 first-place votes
13 11. "Oh! You Pretty Things" (from Hunky Dory) - 630 points/30 votes/0 first-place votes
14 48. "Diamond Dogs" (from Diamond Dogs) - 268 points/13 votes/0 first-place votes
15 37. "All the Young Dudes" (Bowie: Aladdin Sane sessions; Mott the Hoople, 1972 single) - 334 points/15 votes/2 first-place votes
16 Hallo spaceboy (Paddy)
17 Sunday

18 29. "Panic in Detroit" (from Aladdin Sane) - 400 points/19 votes/0 first-place votes
19. D.J.
20. Jump they say

albums:
1. Station To Station
2. Hunky Dory
3. Low
4. Heroes
5. Diamond Dogs

smash williams, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

1. Life on Mars?
2. Golden Years
3. Young Americans
4. Suffragette City
5. All the Young Dudes
6. Oh! You Pretty Things
7. Station to Station
8. Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing Reprise
9. Rebel Rebel
10. It’s Gonna Be Me
11. Bewlay Brothers
12. Quicksand
13. Beauty and the Beast
14. Look Back in Anger
15. What in the World
16. Width of a Circle
17. Win
18. Sound and Vision
19. Always Crashing in the Same Car
20. Blackout

Ballot summary by album
Hunky Dory (4); Low (3); Station to Station (2); Diamond Dogs (2); Heroes (2); Young Americans (2 plus outtake); Ziggy (1); Lodger (1); Man Who Sold the World/Santa Monica 72 (1); and All the Young Dudes

Albums
1. Station to Station
2. Low
3. Hunky Dory
4. Diamond Dogs
5. Aladdin Sane

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot. 9 of these didn't place. Hm.

1. Hang Onto Yourself
2. Oh! You Pretty Things
3. Moonage Daydream
4. It's No Game (No. 1)
5. Starman
6. Suffragette City
7. Soul Love
8. Queen Bitch
9. Jump (They Say)
10. Heroes
11. Song For Bob Dylan
12. Width of a Circle
13. If There Is Something (Tin Machine)
14. Black Country Rock
15. You've Got A Habit Of Leaving (Davy Jones & the Lower Third)
16. She Shook Me Cold

17. Stay
18. Ashes To Ashes
19. Sound and Vision
20. Life On Mars

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

"America's tortured brow"

DB wrote some killer lyrics.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

i'd like to think that if everyone who voted knew "Strangers When We Meet" it would have placed, but maybe i just like that song disproportionately

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC, this has been great - I don't think there's a single song I actively dislike in the whole 60. 'Life on Mars?' is a worthy #1.

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC! As said above, best poll evah.
Can live with the outcome, was my #5.

But George would not approve! - http://youtu.be/unuo-fdhbXs (just for the first 40 secs)

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot:

Look Back in Anger
Joe the Lion
Under Pressure
Be My Wife
Stay
Fashion
Life on Mars?
Panic in Detroit
Golden Years
Secret Life of Arabia
Sound and Vision
Cracked Actor
Breaking Glass
Right
This is Not America

"Heroes"
Star
Always Crashing in the Same Car
Drive-In Saturday
1984

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link

Top 20 Songs/Tracks:

01. Neukoln
02. V2 Schneider
03. Always Crashing In The Same Car
04. Art Decade
05. Warsawa
06. Stay
07. Moss Garden
08. Rebel Rebel
09. Blackout
10. Life On Mars
11. Look Back In Anger
12. Win
13. Suffragette City
14. Red Sails
15. Breaking Glass
16. Be My Wife
17. What In The World
18. Lady Stardust
19. Queen Bitch
20. Soul Love

Top 5 Albums:
01. Low
02. Heroes
03. Hunky Dory
04. Station To Station
05. Ziggy Stardust & The Spiders From Mars

Paul, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

Can we get the full 175 please?

― Ismael Klata, Thursday, March 8, 2012 1:33 PM (4 minutes ago)

Yeah, it's all there in the public spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alm9ijj_zohtdEE3cnJuQmpxRG81amdfWVZPaDg0Vmc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link

1. Move On
2. Art Decade
3. Speed of Life
4. Young Americans
5. Moonage Daydream
6. Joe The Lion
7. Jump They Say
8. Queen Bitch
9. Cracked Actor
10. Oh! You Pretty Things
11. Yassassin
12. Modern Love
13. Strangers When We Meet
14. Quicksand
15. Slip Away
16. Fascination
17. Station to Station
18. Stay
19. Sound and Vision
20. Boys Keep Swinging

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

My two cents

Songs
1. Be My Wife
2. Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)
3. Station To Station
4. Always Crashing In The Same Car
5. Life On Mars?
6. Sound and Vision
7. Candidate (Demo)
8. A New Career In A New Town
9. Look Back In Anger
10. The Bewlay Brothers
11. Stay
12. John, I'm Only Dancing
13. "Heroes"
14. Fantastic Voyage
15. 1984 Really surprised this one didn't place!
16. Scary Monsters
17. Speed of Life
18. Weeping Wall
19. Some Are
20. You've Got A Habit Of Leaving

Albums
1. Low
2. Station to Station
3. "Heroes"
4. Lodger
5. Hunky Dory

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link

Top 20 Songs

1 Rock'N'Roll Suicide (31)
2 Oh! You Pretty Things (11)
3 Cracked Actor (52)
4 Jean Genie (42)
5 Rebel Rebel (10)
6 Life On Mars? (1)
7 Ziggy Stardust (30)
8 Watch That Man
9 Moonage Daydream (8)
10 Who Can I Be Now?
11 Rock'N'Roll With Me
12 The Prettiest Star
13 Lady Grinning Soul
14 Drive In Saturday (27)
15 The Man Who Sold The World (12)
16 Blackout (55)
17 Stay (22)
18 Panic In Detroit (29)
19 Fantastic Voyage (39)
20 Always Crashing In The Same Car (13)
All The Young Dudes (37)
Sons of the Silent Age (60)
Station To Station (4)
Young Americans (7)

Top 5 Albums

1 Aladdin Sane (7)
2 David Live (14 (tie))
3 Ziggy Stardust (4)
4 Diamond Dogs (8)
5 Lodger (6)

Worst 5 Songs

1 God Only Knows
2 Love You Till Tuesday
3 Too Dizzy
4 Thursday's Child
5 (Don't Sit Down)

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

me

1 - Five Years
2 - Drive In Saturday
3 - Boys Keep Swinging
4 - TVC15
5 - Golden Years
6 - Sound and Vision
7 - Red Sails
8 - "Heroes"
9 - A New Career In A New Town
10 - Be My Wife
11 - Always Crashing in the Same Car
12 - Modern Love
13 - Velvet Goldmine
14 - Let's Dance
15 - Young Americans
16 - Station to Station
17 - Kooks
18 - Look Back In Anger
19 - Man Who Sold The World
20 - Absolute Beginners

Albums

1 - Lodger
2 - Station to Station
3 - Low
4 - Hunky Dory
5 - Aladdin Sane

woof, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

were there separate votes for "Sweet Thing" on its own?

#85 Velvet Goldmine
TOO LOW

Badass results! Thanks WmC!

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

Tracks 1-20:

Heroes
Rebel Rebel
Panic in Detroit
Golden Years
Young Americans
TVC 15
Fame
Suffragette City
Be My Wife
What in the World
Breaking Glass
Joe the Lion
Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
Changes
Sound and Vision
Diamond Dogs
Five Years
Watch That Man
Life on Mars
Boys Keep Swinging
Ashes to Ashes

Albums 1-5:

Low
Station to Station
Aladdin Sane
"Heroes"
Hunky Dory

Brad C., Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

my trolling AOR ballot:

tracks
1. Under Pressure
2. Fame
3. Suffragette City
4. Young Americans
5. Ziggy Stardust
6. Space Oddity
7. Changes
8. The Jean Genie
9. Fashion
10. Let's Dance
11. Magic Dance
12. John, I'm Only Dancing
13. Golden Years
14. Starman
15. Rock'n'Roll Suicide
16. Rebel Rebel
17. All The Young Dudes
18. Little Wonder
19. Black Tie White Noise
20. Peace On Earth/Little Drummer Boy

albums
1. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars

HalfNelson (some dude), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

DJ, Soul Love, Cygnet Committee not even in the top 60. What an embarassment of riches this man has.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

None of the Tin Machine tracks made the final 20 did they? Any other albums not represented?

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

My effort

1. Heroes
2. Sound + Vision
3. Queen Bitch
4. Ashes To Ashes
5. The Man Who Sold The World
6. Changes
7. Quicksand
8. Life On Mars
9. Win
10. Space Oddity
11. Hang On To Yourself
12. Five Years
13. Moonage Daydream
14. Fantastic Voyage
15. Oh! You Pretty Things
16. Station To Station
17. Modern Love
18. Always Crashing In The Same Car
19. Young Americans
20. Breaking Glass

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

Outside, Heathen, Reality, Hours, Earthling, and more. His career appears to end in the mid-80s.

xpost.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Dr XO were you the one other vote for Cygnet Committee? There were two and I was the other one!

My cheeseball ballot, made without any consideration for any song that did not immediately spring to mind during the 15 min I took to compile:

Five Years
Under Pressure
Rebel Rebel
Modern Love
Suffragette City
Moonage Daydream
Andy Warhol
Kooks
Life on Mars
Queen Bitch
Quicksand
Ziggy Stardust
Let’s Dance
Heroes
Young Americans
Space Oddity
Letter to Hermione
Cygnet Committee
Unwashed and Slightly Dazed
Station to Station

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

Not many "Hang On To Yourself" voters. Thought it would be a bigger hit what with the totally righteous guitar in the outro.

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks a ton WmC. My ballot:

1. Station to Station
2. Life on Mars?
3. Ashes to Ashes
4. “Heroes”
5. Changes
6. Sound and Vision
7. Space Oddity
8. Golden Years
9. The Man Who Sold the World
10. Suffragette City
11. Always Crashing in the Same Car
12. Oh! You Pretty Things
13. Speed of Life
14. Kooks
15. Let Me Sleep Beside You
16. Look Back in Anger
17. Rock’n’Roll Suicide
18. Cat People (Putting Out Fire)
19. Moss Garden
20. Diamond Dogs

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

Amongst other things, though granted it's kind of a throw-away song, I just find it more fun than rockers like "Suffragette City" and "Rebel Rebel".

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

1 Word On A Wing
2 Modern Love
3 Station to Station
4 Diamond Dogs
5 Heroes
6 Rock n Roll Suicide
7 Five Years
8 Life On Mars?
9 Be My Wife
10 Changes
11 Teenage Wildlife
12 Ziggy Stardust
13 TVC-15
14 Sweet Thing
15 Ashes To Ashes
16 Fashion
17 We are the Dead
18 Sons of the Silent Age
19 Stay
20 Red Sails

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

M@tt OTM about how weird Ashes To Ashes seemed when you only heard it on the radio and knew it was by the same guy as Space Oddity.

TRACKS

1. "Heroes"
2. Sound And Vision
3. Memory Of A Free Festival (single version, Part 1)
4. Life On Mars
5. Quicksand
6. Starman
7. Changes
8. Always Crashing In The Same Car
9. Station To Station
10 Up The Hill Backwards
11. Lady Stardust
12. Breaking Glass
13. Five Years
14. Candidate (demo)
15. Aladdin Sane
16. Cracked Actor
17. Width of A Circle
18. 1984
19. Red Sails
20. Queen Bitch

ALBUMS

1. Hunky Dory
2. Low
3. Ziggy Stardust
4. Heroes
5. Aladdin Sane

fully formed adult banaka unit (sleeve), Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station
Queen Bitch
Suffragette City
Rebel Rebel
"Heroes"
Wild Is The Wind
Modern Love
Ziggy Stardust
Soul Love
China Girl
Sound and Vision
Under Pressure
Be My Wife
Life On Mars?
Look Back In Anger ('79)
Moonage Daydream
Panic In Detroit
Stay
Fame
Changes

Albums

Station to Station
Ziggy Stardust
Low
Heroes
Hunky Dory

Euler, Thursday, 8 March 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks WmC!

1. Moonage Daydream
2. Life On Mars?
3. Five Years
4. Suffragette City
5. Let Me Sleep Beside You
6. The Man Who Sold The World
7. Oh! You Pretty Things
8. After All
9. Golden Years
10. Fascination
11. Starman
12. Kooks
13. Lady Grinning Soul
14. "Heroes"
15. Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
16. Aladdin Sane
17. The Bewlay Brothers
18. Beauty and The Beast
19. Speed of Life
20. Always Crashing In The Same Car

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

Can we have a round-up please?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

how weird Ashes To Ashes seemed when you only heard it on the radio and knew it was by the same guy as Space Oddity.

I put 'The Laughing Gnome' on a mix tape I made for someone ages ago. He had no idea who it was and freaked out when I told him it was DB.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

I am surprised Up The Hill Backwards didn't place. I didn't vote for it myself but I though there was a lot of love for it.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

20. You've Got A Habit Of Leaving

― willem, Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:43 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Aha! I knew I wouldn't be the only one! Great Who pastiche.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Can I just say that I thought my numbers had totally gone through a blender and come out wrong when "Life on Mars" came out on top. Completely baffled. The song had never been on my radar until voting opened for this.

DL:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Alm9ijj_zohtdEE3cnJuQmpxRG81amdfWVZPaDg0Vmc

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

Songs
1. “Heroes”
2. Life On Mars?
3. Changes
4. Suffragette City
5. Diamond Dogs
6. Under Pressure
7. Ashes To Ashes
8. Starman
9. Black Country Rock
10. Boys Keep Swinging
11. Beauty And The Beast
12. Red Sails
13. Rebel Rebel
14. Strangers When We Meet
15. V-2 Schneider
16. All The Young Dudes
17. Five Years
18. Let’s Dance
19. Sound And Vision
20. TVC 15

Albums
1. Heroes
2. Low
3. Lodger
4. Ziggy Stardust
5. Hunky Dory

Didn't relisten to Low before voting; S&V would have been WAY higher. It's so sad; he's so miserable he's locked himself in a blue room and he can't see or hear. Amazing song.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot:
Breaking Glass
Aladdin Sane
Ashes to Ashes
Sound and Vision
All the Young Dudes
Fashion
Moonage Daydream
The Man Who Sold the World
Sons of the Silent Age
Fame
Golden Years
Win
John, I’m Only Dancing
Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)
Art Decade
Wild is the Wind
Life on Mars?
Yassassin
Panic in Detroit
I Dig Everything

albums:
Low
Heroes
Ziggy
Young Americans
Scary Monsters

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

If this had been a 30 vote ballot, I'd have thrown in "I Dig Everything". I like the Bowie/Tony Hatch stuff.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

That one just leapt out at me from the early days.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link

Hardest stanned tracks (score/votes. leaving out tracks that only got 1 or 2 votes)

1) 29.76 (1250/42) Station to Station
2) 29.67 (356/12) Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)
3) 28.80 (288/10) Word on a Wing
4) 27.89 (251/9) Joe the Lion
5) 26.80 (1367/51) Ashes to Ashes
6) 26.60 (1463/55) Life on Mars
7) 25.50 (663/26) Suffragette City
8) 25.44 (1272/50) Sound and Vision
9) 25.33 (608/24) Be My Wife
10) 25.27 (1213/48) "Heroes"

I was right about StS probably out-stanning the Sweet Thing suite upthread :-)

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

Here's a top ten of albums based a total number of points all the songs from each album received:
1. Hunky Dory (4370)
2. Low (4106)
3. Station to Station (3731)
4. Ziggy Stardust (3711)
5. Scary Monsters (2712)
6. Heroes (2698)
7. Aladdin Sane (2280)
8. Lodger (2010)
9. Young Americans (1692)
10. Diamond Dogs (1577)

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link

x-post to Tarfumes - Yeah, lots of love for mod-Bowie here! Got that Lower Third/Mannish Boys 10", think it's a 80's reissue iirc.

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha, I was wondering who the other person was that voted for "I Dig Everything." Awesome. Much thanks again for your work in tallying and presenting the poll!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link

yay statistics :-)

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

Off to hunt a late lunch, have fun datamining!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

Those that love Word on a Wing really love it.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link

I just want to post this lovely picture
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/3079898529_063e8028bb.jpg

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

Those that love Word on a Wing really love it.

― kraudive, Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is very true for me!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

My favourite Bowie pic - always see this when I hear Kooks:
http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg60z2ab5i1qc7qvfo1_400.jpg

My lists

Tracks
Station To Station
Sound And Vision
Ashes to Ashes
Be My Wife
Life On Mars?
Kooks
Young Americans
The Jean Genie
Teenage Wildlife
Diamond Dogs
Always Crashing In The Same Car
Moonage Daydream
Everyone Says Hi
I Have Not Been To Oxford Town
Letter To Hermione
Little Wonder
Dead Against It
Breaking Glass
Bring Me The Disco King
Maid Of Bond Street

Albums
Station To Station
Low
Hunky Dory
The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust and The Spiders From Mars
1. Outside

Stevie T, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

xp re WoaW - My #1. I think I said - er, exclaimed - a few days ago as much. I was disappointed it was so low, but it's nice to see that stat.

kraudive, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot:

1. David Bowie & Mick Jagger - "Dancing In The Street"

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

my mans

HalfNelson (some dude), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

i'm genuinely regretful that i didn't include it on my ballot in between "Magic Dance" and "Little Drummer Boy"

HalfNelson (some dude), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

Here's my ballot;

Win
Five Years
Golden Years
Sound and Vision
Station To Station
Janine
Panic In Detroit ('73)
Drive In Saturday
TVC 15
Watch That Man
What In The World
Young Americans
Black Country Rock
A New Career In A New Town
Life On Mars?
Rebel Rebel
Move On
Oh! You Pretty Things
The Bewlay Brothers
Repetition

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

nice, korn--i'm into janine slipped in there!

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

This would have been my ballot but i left it too late to enter it,ah well next time.Of course by then it wiil be completely different.

Top 20 songs

1 Alternative Candidate
2 Conversation Piece
3 T.M.W.S.T.W
4 An Occasional Dream
5 Queen Bitch
6 Starman
7 Teenage Wildlife
8 Fantastic Voyage
9 Drive In Saturday
10 Ashes To Ashes
11 TVC15
12 Silly Boy Blue
13 Be My Wife
14 There Is A Happy Land
15 Letter To Hermonine
16 Loving The Alien
17 Lady Grinning Soul
18 Black Country Rock
19 V-2 Schneider
20 Win

Top 5 albums

1 Diamond Dogs
2 Ziggy Stardust
3 Aladdinsane
4 Hunky Dory
5 T.M.W.S.T.W

gazelleonstage, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

The crazy thing is you could strike these 60 songs from Bowie's catalogue and still have an enviable supply of gold, "Width of a circle", "Hang onto yourself", "Watch that man", "The supermen", "China girl", etc. etc.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, whoever said these songs were all winners was pretty OTM.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

whoa... no China Girl. didnt even notice til just now

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

iggy's version is superior

sarahell, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

i love both!

billstevejim, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

"Width of a Circle" almost made it onto my ballot

grandavis, Thursday, 8 March 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

Stevie T, that is a fantastic pic: "Bowie's wearing a great jacket - oh, hang on..."

willem, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

nice, korn--i'm into janine slipped in there!

Yes! In it's own way, it's a perfect song.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

If I could do it again I would rank my Lodger picks higher

Golden Years
Holy Holy
Ashes to Ashes
Young Americans
Station to Station
Starman
Boys Keep Swingin
TVC15
Win
Life on Mars
Look Back in Anger
Moonage Daydream
Speed of Life
It's No Game (part 1)
Red Sails
What in the World
Repetition
Beauty and the Beast
The Man Who Sold the World
Fame

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

fame
young americans
modern love
changes
ashes to ashes
station to station
always crashing in the same car
golden years
drive in saturday
moonage daydream
a new career in a new town
sound and vision
tvc
under pressure
the jean genie
lady grinning soul
subterraneans
watch that man
the man who sold the world
win

riding on a cloud (blank), Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

This has been a great exercise and over the last few days I've been listening to things I haven't heard in years or never before and so I'm not going to post my ballot cos I'd change 75% of it now. Anyway, Be My Wife was my #1.

I think the highest-placed song that I didn't vote for at all was Sound & Vision (fatigue!) and my highest-placed tune that didn't make the top 60 was Jump They Say.

What a life.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 8 March 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link

A couple of final questions/impressions, now that I'm jammed full of chicken curry and don't want to gnaw my own arm off:

• Why the hell did "Life on Mars" win? Did the TV show(s) give it a higher profile than it would have had otherwise? I like the song well enough, but from my vantage point (late 40s/US/rural) it was invisible until 10 days ago. Did it do better among voters east of the Atlantic compared to the US?

• The post-1983 shutout in the top 60 is regrettable. There is a lot of really good material from the last 29(!) years. Ultimately I'd characterize the top 60 as a whole 60% Strength of 70s Catalog/40% LOL Nostalgia. Maybe that's too harsh?

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

In answer to the second question, I think that Bowie's 70's catalogue is a) so strong and b) so varied, that even if he hadn't have had that sucky period in the early 80's the percentages would have been about the same.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:09 (twelve years ago) link

Although now I've got to disagree that I don't think it's 40% LOL Nostalgia - more like 10%. The older stuff is dope, no feelings of nostalgia needed.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

The Life Aquatic might have something to do w it.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

Meaningful Bill Murray smoking a J

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link

My mostly singles heavy ballot (been appreciating the albums a lot more, no small thanks to this poll, but the radio friendly stuff has been burnt into my brain since childhood, not sure it will ever be surpassed):

Station to Station
Sound and Vision
Ashes to Ashes
Life on Mars
Five Years
Space Oddity
The Man Who Sold the World
Heroes
Changes
Oh You Pretty Things
Starman
Look Back in Anger
Ziggy Stardust
Rebel Rebel
Young Americans
China Girl
Let's Dance
Suffragette City
Fame
Under Pressure

Albums:

Station to Station
Hunky Dory
Low
Ziggy Stardust
Let's Dance

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

I'm mid-40s/US/urban and iI didn't hesitate for a second putting Life on Mars? as my favorite: a) epic and cinematic b) incredible arrangement and Rick Wakeman's piano c) the generosity of spirit--no glacial distancing here--it's kind of a love letter to his fans ultimately

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link

I would have said, as a UK radio listener from the late 70s on, that Life on Mars has always been high profile over here.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

The US TV show was cancelled after less than a season, so I can't imagine it made much of an impact in terms of vast numbers of people suddenly becoming aware of the song. I didn't hear it myself until 1991, and while it's definitely a standout on Hunky Dory, it didn't knock me out as much as about 5 other songs on that record.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

It's on here, that's pretty high profile, right?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-SingStar-Legends-Solus-PS2/dp/B000HKBAUC

If my flatmates weren't in I'd go and bust out a version right now.

ledge, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

Life On Mars has always really annoyed me and now I'm going to have to go away and figure out why. Have seemingly known that song since I was aware of pop music so yes, what ledge said about its high profile over here.

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

IIRC, "Life On Mars?" has popped up in some other movies and trailers (besides Zissou, in which tbh I thought it was used poorly). Hunky Dory's stock has risen in recent years and I think to many it's THE SONG on the album.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link

I should recognize my own hypocrisy here and note that there's nothing on my ballot newer than "Ashes to Ashes".

xps -- ah, I haven't seen The Life Aquatic yet, so that solves a bit of the mystery for me.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

I think its singularity counts for a lot--the other major songs on HD have counterparts elsewhere (or on the same album!)

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

my picks:

1. What In The World
2. Life On Mars?
3. Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
4. Sound and Vision
5. Cat People (Soundtrack)
6. Oh! You Pretty Things
7. Changes
8. "Heroes"
9. Let's Dance
10. Under Pressure
11. Ashes To Ashes
12. Rebel Rebel
13. Ziggy Stardust
14. Starman
15. Dancing In The Street
16. Always Crashing In The Same Car
17. Fashion
18. Golden Years
19. The Man Who Sold The World
20. Space Oddity

lol at my only non-placing pick.

I had Life On Mars? as my no.1 initially, I bumped up "What In The World" cos I figured it needed the points more (and I do really love it).

Thanks a million for doing this WmC, really looking forward to checking out the many songs here I'm not familiar with.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

and yes, Hunky Dory has risen to be the fan favorite in recent years, friendlier than Station to Station

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

― we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat),

solid gold screen name btw

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Albums

"Heroes"
Ziggy Stardust
Hunky Dory
Station to Station
Low
Aladdin Sane
Diamond Dogs
Scary Monsters
Lodger
Young Americans

Space Oddity
The Man who Sold the World

Songs

"Heroes"
Station to Station
Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (reprise)
Life on Mars
Joe the Lion
Time
Always Crashing in the Same Car
Teenage Wildlife
Ziggy Stardust
Aladdin Sane
Space Oddity
Blackout
Red Sails
Fame
Ashes to Ashes
Lady Grinning Soul
Oh You Pretty Things
Lady Stardust
Width of a Circle
Warszawa

Mother, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

For me (a nigh 40 year old), "Life On Mars?" jumped out as the standout when I first heard Hunky Dory in '91. Over the years, it's only grown in my estimation.

Life Aquatic can suck it. Almost ruined Bowie for me.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

I've never seen Life Aquatic or whatever tv show WmC referred to in his initial post about Life on Mars -- I just think it's a really good song. TBH I am not really aware of what critical brouhaha surrounds any of Bowie's stuff, I just like the songs I like. And those are the songs I voted for. My opinion is not important in the greater scheme of things, nor is the greater scheme of things really that important to my opinion about these songs.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

I did it this way:

Songs
01 Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
02 Look Back In Anger
03 "Heroes"
04 Five Years
05 Moonage Daydream
06 Life on Mars
07 Oh! You Pretty Things
08 Changes
09 John, I'm Only Dancing
10 Rebel Rebel
11 Drive In Saturday
12 Golden Years
13 Be My Wife
14 Panic In Detroit
15 The Jean Genie
16 Sound and Vision
17 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
18 D.J.
19 What in the World
20 Aladdin Sane

Albums
01 Lodger
02 Low
03 "Heroes"
04 Aladdin Sane
05 The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars

Genuinely pained over omitting "Win." Nearly included "Neuköln." Flip-flopped over #1 & #2 placings. Overall satisfied. The Dinah Shore clip is awesome and the crap quality kind of suits it.

Kent Burt, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:11 (twelve years ago) link

My Ballot

Letter To Hermione
Moonage Daydream
Sound and Vision
Rebel Rebel
Ashes To Ashes
Life On Mars?
John, I'm Only Dancing
Starman
Ziggy Stardust
Drive In Saturday
Changes
Fame
Let's Dance
Space Oddity
Buddha Of Suburbia
Stay
Lady Stardust
Queen Bitch
Heroes
Jean Genie

Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

Really was expecting Letter to Hermione to place at least in the lower ranks but you don't really care about music, do ya?

Moonage Daydream and Sound and Vision on the top 10 is good enough for me. Life on Mars? at number one is sort of a perfect encapsulation on Bowie's career.

Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot which was sent too late to qualify:

Life On Mars?
Sound and Vision
"Heroes"
Win
Oh! You Pretty Things
TVC 15
Thru' These Architects Eyes
Station To Station
Beauty and The Beast
Breaking Glass
Boys Keep Swinging
Fashion
Modern Love
African Night Flight
Man Who Sold The World
Changes
Drive In Saturday
Golden Years
Scary Monsters
Aladdin Sane

Agree that it's a shame nothing after Let's Dance qualified. Great job, WmC!

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

I just want to post this lovely picture

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera)

That's Hermione btw.

Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link

i am taking note of who voted D.J. and who did not >:[

horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

i am taking note of who voted D.J. and who did not >:[

Yeah, no idea how it wasn't in mine. Then again, my vote didn't count so...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

This is my favorite bowie photo. Classiest mugshot i've seen, almost looks like a fashion photoshoot.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxwmfjYtrV1qb4j60o1_500.jpg

Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

he looks like a hitler youth in that photo, but he is beautiful

horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

my ballot:

songs:

1. John, I'm Only Dancing
2. Aladdin Sane (1913 - 1938 - 197?)
3. Sound And Vision
4. Sons Of The Silent Age
5. Lady Grinning Soul
6. The Bewlay Brothers
7. Drive-In Saturday
8. Ashes to Ashes
9. Warszawa
10. Station To Station
11. Starman
12. The Width Of A Circle
13. The Supermen
14. Life On Mars?
15. Golden Years
16. Always Crashing In The Same Car
17. Stay
18. Moonage Daydream
19. Yassassin (Turkish For: Long Live)
20. Time

albums:

1. Aladdin Sane
2. Low
3. Hunky Dory
4. Lodger
5. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust & the Spiders from Mars

silverfish, Friday, 9 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

xpost:

I'm presuming that's when he got busted for marijuana, right? :)

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

wau Lady Grinning Soul didn't place.

piscesx, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

this guy's songbook is truly an embarrassment of riches. on a different note, he's really not liked by critics, is he (other than the so-called Berlin trilogy perhaps)? or was that just in the 70s?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

In the US he was regarded with quite a lot of suspicion for most of the seventies. I just realized this today, and as heretical as it may sound the skeptical American critics explained his strategies exactly how they revealed themselves with greater care than the Brits, who accepted Bowie as he wanted to be: a superb pop artist/Pop Artist who scored many hits. Those early Greil Marcus and Lester Bangs essays are hilarious and quite apt not-quite-eviscerations, which is why their eventual conversion is more rewarding.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

Re: Life on Mars--I wasn't really aware of the song until a couple years ago; Scott Miller, the guy from Game Theory, talked very highly of it when he started making those year by year mixtapes; I think he said it was his favourite song of '71. (He kept talking about what he called music-hall-descent-with-a-twist, which he traced from When a Man Loves a Woman, through Whiter Shade of Pale, to Life on Mars, Bell Bottom Blues, and All the Young Dudes). Anyways, I listened to the youtube then, but I wasn't really impressed. But when I got Spotify I decided to try to listen to classic Bowie run of albums finally. "Life on Mars" really shines in the context of that album, and esp since I got sick of "Changes" (way more played out than "Space Odditty") it seemed almost like a no-brainer...

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 9 March 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

i had DJ on my ballot kinda shocked it didn't place

buzza, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

my #6

also 1984 was a bit of a surprise too

buzza, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

when i was 20 i was studying abroad in Paris and i became infatuated with a 27 year old French girl who lived in my building. we became pretty good friends, though it quickly became apparent that she had quite a poised, arms-length way of stemming any kind of advance from a young Australian guy like myself. she was elegant, insightful and beautiful. and she absolutely adored Bowie. of course i was very familiar with him prior to this point, but it was probably sometime around then that i realised he really was all that.

anway, my top 20:

1. always crashing in the same car
2. word on a wing
3. oh! you pretty things
4. panic in detroit
5. station to station
6. what in the world
7. moonage daydream
8. life on mars
9. rebel rebel
10. be my wife
11. TVC15
12. cracked actor
13. ashes to ashes
14. sons of the silent age
15. modern love
16. sound and vision
17. fame
18. five years
19. the width of a circle
20. heroes

charlie h, Friday, 9 March 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

Mine, songs:
01 Young Americans
02 Moonage Daydream
03 Sound and Vision
04 Quicksand
05 Drive In Saturday
06 Time
07 The Man Who Sold the World
08 Ashes to Ashes
09 Velvet Goldmine
10 TVC-15
11 Be My Wife
12 Modern Love
13 Fantastic Voyage
14 Queen Bitch
15 Space Oddity '69
16 Sweet Thing
17 Kooks
18 Under Pressure
19 Oh! You Pretty Things
20 Rebel Rebel

albums:
01 Hunky Dory
02 Diamond Dogs
03 Low
04 Ziggy Stardust
05 Alladin Sane

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

MOKA -- That is why I posted it!!! It is Hermione.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link

well in that case I love you.

Moka, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

Wonder where or if "Absolute Beginners" will place. Those of you around at the time: was it regarded as a Brief Return To Form, as it is now?

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, March 8, 2012 3:24 AM (Yesterday)

I loved that it was this six-something-minute epic pop song.

"marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

No "Blue Jean" on anyone's ballot! No "This Is Not America"!

Sincerely,
1986

"marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

Did you vote, Eazy?
If not, cram it.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:21 (twelve years ago) link

Aw, Lech!

"marvellously inoffensive" (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

I voted for Blue Jean.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 9 March 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link

Only sad that "the Prettiest Star" didn't make it into the top 50, and thought maybe the alternate version of Candidate might place higher, even if I only had it at #5 on my poll. Also, if you combine the votes for Sweet Thing, Candidate and Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing it jumps up from #35 to #24, just edging out "Under Pressure."

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you so much WmC, this was a hugely enjoyable poll and I appreciate your outstanding effort!

Regret: I should have voted for Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing instead of Under Pressure, because it's bonkers-amazing and because in my heart I know that Under Pressure is really a Queen song after all.

Surprises: Life On Mars? If ILM says so. Also, I thought for sure 'Heroes' would win. Mainly, I was pretty shocked at the deafening ILM silence for Bowie in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.

Regrettable but Irrefutable Conclusion: David Bowie is a radio, and cocaine is by far the greatest station.

My ballot

ALBUMS:

1.Diamond Dogs (8)
2.Aladdin Sane (7)
3.Lodger (6)
4.Low (1)
5.Hunky Dory (3)


SONGS:

1.Young Americans (7)
2.The Man Who Sold The World (12)
3.We Are The Dead
4.Joe The Lion (51)
5. Golden Years (6)
6. It's No Game (Part 1) (40)
7.Scary Monsters (49)
8.Station To Station (4)
9.Under Pressure (23)
10.Drive In Saturday (27)
11.Aladdin Sane (35)
12.Loving The Alien
13.All The Madmen 

14.Ashes To Ashes 
(2)
15.Beauty and The Beast (57)
16.This Is Not America


17.Sons of The Silent Age
 (50)
18.Diamond Dogs 
(48)
19.The Jean Genie (42)
20.The Bewlay Brothers (46)

Foster The Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link

To be honest, I love Bowie... but own nothing by him past Let's Dance, and haven't even listened to anything he's done after 1990.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link

i had DJ on my ballot kinda shocked it didn't place

― buzza, Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link

Getting a ballot down to 20 was a struggle. DJ and Lady Grinning Soul were two I hated to cut ... also all the instrumentals. Sort of surprised Life on Mars was #1, but it's all good.

I put on Stage a little while ago and damned if a lot of the vocals aren't better than the studio versions.

Brad C., Friday, 9 March 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

Shit! I forgot the most important thing! Thank you to everyone who voted and everyone who kept the thread rolling with quality commentary and discussion while I farted around looking up youtubes and typing up results!

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

Thank you! It's getting me back into Bowie, who I haven't really listened to in a while...

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah this thread is the kick in the ass I needed to finally give the late 70s stuff a well-deserved long-overdue listen

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 9 March 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

Oops--missed the end of this. 1300+ posts will be hard to beat for one of these polls.

1. "All the Young Dudes," Mott the Hoople (40)
2. “Kooks” (36)
3. “Rebel Rebel” (33)
4. “Hang on to Yourself” (30)
5. “Queen Bitch” (28)
6. “You’ve Got a Habit of Leaving” (David Bowie & the Lower Third) (26)
7. “Panic in Detroit” (25)
8. “Diamond Dogs” (24)
9. “Can’t Help Thinking About Me” (David Bowie & the Lower Third) (23)
10. “Suffragette City” (22)
11. “Watch That Man” (21)

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

Another "Hang Onto Yourself" voter! Huzzah!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 9 March 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

It's time I gave his post-Let's Dance materiel a semi-well-deserved not-so-long-overdue listen.

Loving the Alien
Don't look Down
Absolute Beginners
This is not America
Time Will Crawl
Never Let Me Down
Night Flights
Strangers When We Meet
I'm Deranged
Sunday
Heathen

Really surprised (not really) nothing made the poll.

Mother, Friday, 9 March 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

lady grinning soul voters otm. sounds like the end of a movie.

riding on a cloud (blank), Friday, 9 March 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link

the lyrics kinda kill that song for me.

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link

Full list?

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 07:33 (twelve years ago) link

It's on the Google Spreadsheet

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 9 March 2012 07:39 (twelve years ago) link

@ sarahell, he sounds, all over that record, as if he was trying to push his lyrics and delivery to the most campy, twisted place; it's a parody of "Ziggy". Works great on "Drive-in Saturday".

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 March 2012 07:44 (twelve years ago) link

that's my favorite Bowie album, it's just the parts about the "musky odor" and "fullness of her breast" that are kinda gross

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 07:47 (twelve years ago) link

Huh! The first time I heard that album as a teenager I was all 'i don't get it' and my opinion hasn't really changed. "Cracked actor", "Watch that man", "Panic in Detroit" and "The Jean Genie" are just too sloppy and fucked up for my taste, the same reason I guess people like it. "Time" just sounds like he's aping Brel, "The prettiest star" is too cuet. Love "Drive-in Saturday" and the title track though

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Friday, 9 March 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot, and what positions they took in the end.

Notably non-canonical, without trying to be?

1 Loving The Alien (97)
2 Wild Is The Wind (42)
3 Jean Genie (43)
4 Beauty and The Beast (58)
5 "Heroes" (6)
6 Underground (103)
7 Sound and Vision (4)
8 Can't Help Thinking About Me (109)
9 Drive In Saturday (28)
10 Rebel Rebel (11)
11 Baal's Hymn (107)
12 John, I'm Only Dancing (21)
13 Scary Monsters (50)
14 Starman (19)
15 Under Pressure (24)
16 All The Young Dudes (38)
17 DJ (66)
18 Fame (34)
19 What's Really Happening (169)
20 That's Motivation (174)

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

11 Baal's Hymn (107)

Good man.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link

ta.

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link

My ballot, bold didn't place.

1 It's No Game (Part 1)
2 Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps)
3 Golden Years
4 "Heroes"
5 Starman
6 Life On Mars
7 Under Pressure
8 Fashion
9 Boys Keep Swinging
10 Changes
11 Aladdin Sane
12 Move On
13 Sound and Vision
14 Rebel Rebel
15 Hang On To Yourself
16 Jump They Say

17 Up The Hill Backwards
18 China Girl
19 Strangers When We Meet
20 Memories of a Free Festival

Albums

1 Scary Monsters
2 Ziggy Stardust
3 Hunky Dory
4 Lodger
5 Earthling

'Jump they say' missing out seems like the most egregious omission to me. After the fallow period of the mid 80s this was something I could say with some confidence that he wasn't just a heritage act but someone still capable of new, exciting work.

fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Friday, 9 March 2012 09:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Life on Mars" and "Drive in Saturday", are they not pretty much the same song, subjectmatterwise?

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:01 (twelve years ago) link

• The post-1983 shutout in the top 60 is regrettable

I've been having a think about this. I try to make a point of listening to everything I can when I contribute to one of these polls, and the thing that consistently comes out is that artists go on releasing good work a lot longer than you think. Nevertheless I mostly keep voting for the 'peak era' stuff.

I can think of two reasons for this:
- there's a kind of urgency in earlier work that dissipates as the artist mellows, doesn't take life so seriously, and tends to explore subtleties more than going for massive hooks and dramatic arrangements.
- there's always a cultural cachet to the more popular stuff; everyone knows it, so we spend more time talking about it and attaching meanings to it. It's natural to love it more.

And more practically, it'd be slightly bloody-minded to fill your ballot with Heathen deep cuts when you know that everyone else is going to be voting for side one of Low.

I'll be interested to see how the Paul Simon one pans out, where his peak era is possibly less pronounced than someone like Bowie.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's not that I don't like anything post-1983, it's just that there's such an embarrassment of riches up to that point that I'd only include a later song if I was trying to make a point - it would feel dutiful rather than sincere. Maybe if the ballots were 40 places instead of 20, but then WmC would have had a nervous breakdown and Jump They Say isn't worth that.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

Just me and Owen P voting for I'm Deranged then. Only five of us propped for Jump They Say...

Michael Jones, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

"What's Really Happening"

Yes, I'm glad you asked me about that. I voted for it anyway..

Basically, this was a competition by DBowie on Bowienet. He put up an instrumental with him going la la la, and what you had to do was write the song's verses. Himself sang the chorus.

Then you 'uploaded' your verses.

The next part of the process involved clicking a link, and getting ten (or was it five?) sets of verses by other people, and you got to vote them out of five. Tell you what though, all the ones I saw were absolutely terrible! So, i thought I might be in with a good chance.

Anyways, the prize went to one Alex Grant (very close alphabetically, I noticed), and his verses were fine. Fair play, if someone said his were better, I would not argue.

I never got round to 'recording' my version. Might save it for the next ILX compilation.

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link

"Life on Mars" and "Drive in Saturday", are they not pretty much the same song, subjectmatterwise?

I've always been a bit unclear about the what's-going-on of Life on Mars?, esp the second verse, but Drive In Saturday seems to me post-human sci-fi looking back wistfully at us (& 70s looking at 60s, 50s), & I can't get that to match quite.

woof, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

it's about a girl who has a miserable family life who likes going to the movies

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Drive in Saturday" is responsible for my favourite DLTism, after he played it:

"And speaking of "Crash course for the Ravers, let's over to the traffic news"

(hey, it shows he was listening!)

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

Since all the images in LoM are more or less American, I interpret it as being about a girl (Bowie substitute) looking at America as though it's a not a real place, as though it's an entirely fictious entity that only exists in movies. Since for an English person, practically everything we think of as the real America comes from movies/TV/media pop culture generally.

c'est ne pas un car wash (snoball), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

are they though? sailors fighting in the dancehall could totally be British

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:45 (twelve years ago) link

i think the thing is that the descriptions of these movies all code as "old" b-movies, that she lives somewhere crappy where there is one movie theater that plays these old b-movies because it is crappy and can't afford doesn't give a fuck about showing contemporary fare. it's probably during the day, i'm guessing

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

I think it ties into the faltering pre-Ziggy state of Bowie's career: Space Oddity was a false start, he hadn't quite made the leap into stardom, he's still a struggling songwriter (failing to write the English lyrics for the song that would become My Way) - just like the girl in the song has failed in her plans to run away from home, and the whole ludicrous Hollywood spectacle doesn't console her, just mocks her dreams of escape.

Stevie T, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

She wants the escapism, but the films are rubbish and cliché driven.

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link

so that second verse is… Bowie/girl poetic digression about rotten state of England, uk pop culture consumer thralldom?

woof, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

It's just "I am the Walrus" type bol.

Mark G, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:17 (twelve years ago) link

The post-1983 shutout in the top 60 is regrettable

David Bowie continued to make records after 1983? Far out. (Sorry--being a wiseguy.) More regrettable to me is that nothing from the Lower Third snuck in.

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

Only 3 other ppl voting for "Absolute Beginners" is just shocking. (I hadn't expected much support for "Looking for Water".)

dorsalstop, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:38 (twelve years ago) link

It just occurred to me (seeing the date, d'oh) - that mugshot Moka posted was taken two days after the Nassau show in '76 that's included in the Station to Station reissue from last year.

willem, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

A day later, at Madison Square Garden, still classy.
http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Appearances/Concerts/1976/0326/JD02.jpg

willem, Friday, 9 March 2012 12:59 (twelve years ago) link

1. Life on Mars?
2. Ashes to Ashes
3. Five Years
4. Station to Station
5. Rock n Roll Suicide
6. The Bewlay Brothers
7. Sweet Thing
8. Lady Grinning Soul
9. Fantastic Voyage
10. Sound and Vision
11. Yassassin
12. Quicksand
13. Look Back in Anger
14. Sons of the Silent Age
15. It's No Game (Part 2)
16. The Secret Life of Arabia
17. Changes
18. Absolute Beginners
19. African Night Flight
20. Golden Years

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 9 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

1. Starman
2. Life On Mars?
3. Oh! You Pretty Things
4. Ziggy Stardust
5. Lady Stardust
6. Cracked Actor
7. Heroes
8. Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise)
9. Bewlay Brothers
10. Quicksand
11. Lady Grinning Soul
12. Prettiest Star
13. Young Americans
14. Rock 'n' Roll Suicide
15. Stay
16. Time
17. TVC 15
18. John, I'm Only Dancing
19. Watch That Man
20. Five Years

Changes accidentally ommitted. Painfullest cuts, iirc:

Hallo Spaceboy
Panic In Detroit
Modern Love
Jean Genie
Moonage Daydream
Ashes to Ashes
Station to Station

I'd have put Stay higher id I'd listened to it before I submitted, but I'm still happy with Starman at #1. It makes me smile all over my body.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

regarding what "Life on Mars?" is about: http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/life-on-mars/

horseshoe, Friday, 9 March 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

I honested figured ILX's love for Berlin-era Bowie would place Station to Station and Heroes above Life on Mars, but I always believed it would be in the top three... my local Bowie universe has always regarded Hunky Dory as his finest work (I remember late night diner arguments over Hunky Dory vs. Aladdin Sane, me arguing the latter) and Life on Mars is the shorthand for that record.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

honestly. honestly!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

I like Aladdin Sane heaps better than Hunky Dory. It hangs together better and doesn't have any songs on it that make my teeth hurt. Some of HD is just horrible. However there is a certain softness (warm and upbeat like in Starman or wistful and strange like in Bewlay Brothers) that you don't really hear again. When it's good, it's really good?

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

What part of HD is horrible? "Fill Your Heart"?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I like Fill Your Heart!

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

I don't like Fill Your Heart.

Also I am no fan of Andy Warhol or Song for Bob Dylan, cute & clever once but very grating after 30 years, and for some reason Kooks rubs me up the wrong way lately too.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

B-b-b-but that dead-on guitar playing on Andy Warhol!

Feebs K-Tel (NickB), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

Our criteria at the time was admittedly... very high school. Although since the Ryko reissues were just released, we actually had access to his entire catalog! Space Oddity was rejected out of hand for reeking of hippy and the sixties, Ziggy Stardust was "too popular" although what that meant in real terms I don't know since there were about six Bowie fans in our entire high school, most of them teachers. So the battle lines were something like Man Who Sold the World/Hunky Dory vs. Aladdin Sane/Low. Eventually somebody got a copy of Station to Station and attempts at narrative were abandoned.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

I agree--Fill Your Heart, Kooks, Warhol, and Dylan are stinkers!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

No! Warhol is great!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

It's DELIBERATELY ANNOYING!

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

Kooks is just a nice place to be

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

'Andy Warhol' is clearly where Metallica stole one of the riffs in 'Master Of Puppets' from.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

"Andy sleeping/ Andy tired/ Andy take a little snooze"

Don't know why, but i find it hilarious.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

I used to think it was funny, but I've heard it too many times for the childish humour *or* the natty guitar to overcome the oh-god-so-annoying vocals.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

I should 'fess that HD, as well as being an old favourite in its own right, is one of my writing-to albums, which means I might have overplayed it, just a touch. Same goes for Aladdin Sane, Ziggy and Diamond Dogs. You sure notice which songs work for you when you've got them on rotation for 6 weeks straight.

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Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

and for some reason Kooks rubs me up the wrong way lately too.

It's a song written for an audience of one: Zowie (two if you count Angie). In a way it annoys me in the same way Phil Collins' 'relationship' songs annoy me - I'm not the intended audience and I don't even want to eavesdrop on the situation, I feel awkward about it even.

rain came down like water falling from the clouds (snoball), Friday, 9 March 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link

Hunky Dory vs. Aladdin Sane

Both albums have some annoying tracks but Aladdin Sane has Mike Garson, so I give it the edge. I love them both, including all the annoying tracks.

Brad C., Friday, 9 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

which reminds me of this, from way up thread:

"what are the most avant-garde/outside solos on pop singles?"

Great thread idea!

^ otm

Brad C., Friday, 9 March 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

thread idea inspired by Steely Dan's "Do It Again" btw, even though it wouldn't win the "most avant-garde solo" prize

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Friday, 9 March 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

God, I love "Kooks." It's the song that more than any other made me reconsider my long-standing antipathy to Bowie. (Big fan of Changesone in high school, completely uninterested through my 20s and 30s, again a big fan of the dozen songs I voted for.)

clemenza, Friday, 9 March 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

'Andy Warhol' is clearly where Metallica stole one of the riffs in 'Master Of Puppets' from.

― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican)

Yep, and they stole the phrase 'Leper Messiah' from 'Ziggy Stardust'. Obviously Jaymz is a closet Bowie fan.

Holy shit, the vicar in that Young Ones scene is Terry Jones? It's been yonks since I watched the Young Ones I never noticed that before.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 9 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

my dumbass all-hits ballot, classic rockist 2 the core and (unsurprisingly) non-ILX-canonical in that i gave v short shrift to station to station & the "berlin trilogy":

1) Suffragette City
2) Ashes To Ashes
3) Rebel Rebel (perhaps i overrate due to imagined spiritual kinship w bikini kill's "rebel girl")
4) The Man Who Sold The World
5) Space Oddity (not so much for now, but then)
6) Cat People (long moroder version ftw*)
7) Heroes
8) All The Young Dudes
9) Quicksand
10) Starman (have no idea how this drek got on here, should have been "fame", smdh)
11) Andy Warhol
12) Is There Life On Mars?
13) John, I'm Only Dancing
14) Fashion
15) Diamond Dogs
16) Moonage Daydream
17) Under Pressure
18) Young Americans
19) Let's Dance
20) Modern Love

* there's supposedly a nine minute version of the bowie/moroder "cat people (putting out fire)" on an australian 12-inch. is this a myth? anyone have it/heard it?

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link

I always liked Fill Your Heart anyway, but liked it even more when I heard the various ways that Bowie improved on the original. It's not like he made huge changes, but every one is perfect...

dlp9001, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

I like every song on Hunky Dory TBH.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Friday, 9 March 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

3 of my favorites that didn't make it:

Let Me Sleep Beside you
Memory Of A Free Festival
Unwashed And Somewhat Slightly Dazed

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

1.Life On Mars?
2.Time
3.Cat People (Soundtrack)
4.Modern Love
5.Breaking Glass
6.Drive In Saturday
7.Oh! You Pretty Things
8. Warszawa
9.Time Will Crawl
10.Suffragette City
11.Ashes To Ashes
12.Young Americans
13.Panic In Detroit
14. Art Decade
15.Watch That Man
16."Heroes"
17.Ziggy Stardust
18.Fame '90 (was not tied to this particular version)
19.Space Oddity
20.Cracked Actor

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

nine minute cat people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvrXkOeu-ss

fit and working again, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

eek sorry for the embed

fit and working again, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

so so worth it though!

sarahell, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

o shit! couldn't find it the last time i looked (which was apparently quite some time ago). ^-_-^

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

just needs this as an intro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPP1i2YrrfA

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 9 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

i think his singing got better with aladdin sane. i don't like some of the more nasally vocals on the earlier stuff.

riding on a cloud (blank), Friday, 9 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

i think life on mars won cuz it's a fucking amazing song

a little tiny crunk person (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

music crit gold ^^

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Friday, 9 March 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

So, I was still coming up with 80 ballots, but only 78 first-place votes. Obviously I'd miscounted the #1s when I transcribed (by hand, don't ask) from my big messy spreadsheet to the nice neat googledoc. So I opened Big Messy in Google and there they were.

Revisions: "Hang on to Yourself" changed from 0 first-place votes to 1, and "Life on Mars" changed from 4 first-place votes to 5. Point totals were correct, no changes. Total number of ballots: a nice even 80.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link

I love that clash of the Tony Newley cockney scamp voice with the New York arts scene references that makes Hunky Dory so original and fresh.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 9 March 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link

80's a terrific effort, well done all. It makes the results so much more fun too.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 9 March 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link

And 41 different songs got first-place votes.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Friday, 9 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Wow, 80. You win!

Mark G, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Is 80 all-ILM record? Well done, people--and WmC, again, great job....so FUN!!

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think so, but I don't keep up with rap or metal polls.

Mark -- I wasn't competing for anything! ILM wins.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Saturday, 10 March 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Km5OKZlp0

clemenza, Saturday, 10 March 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

It's not the side-effects of the cocaine
I'm thinking that all you people who voted for Low haven't listened to any other Bowie albums

― an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:32 PM (4 days ago)

You may recall that in 1978, LP cutout bins (at least in Scranton) were full of firmly unwanted copies of Low.

Up With Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

they loved it in wilkes-barre tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^

maybe so, I don't recall seeing Low cutouts at Joe Nardone's Gallery of Sound!

Up With Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 03:41 (twelve years ago) link

Low was rating #1 of the Top 100 1970's albums on Pitchfork, btw. None of his other albums ranked in the top 50.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5932-top-100-albums-of-the-1970s/10/

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw while i did not vote in this poll and contributed no more than the occasional joek to its unveiling, i totally appreciate its existence and have indeed listened to trax 1-12 today.

so thanks y'all

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 March 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

It's not the side-effects of the cocaine
I'm thinking that all you people who voted for Low haven't listened to any other Bowie albums
― an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:32 PM (4 days ago)

Nah it's his best album

riding on a cloud (blank), Saturday, 10 March 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

Well, hey. Let's talk.
When you consider so many other Bowie albums to be an treasure trove, pleeeeease tell me
Why Bowie's #1 album (selon ILM) contains so many one-offs, oddities; essentially a b-sides collection
(excepting "Breaking glass" and "Sound + vision") come at me, it's a shit-haul.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Saturday, 10 March 2012 08:17 (twelve years ago) link

Close your eyes to the backstory and you'll hear at least ten other superior albums by same artist

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Saturday, 10 March 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not that invested in Bowie the songwriter, the lyricist, the personality etc. I just really love how Low sounds, from the bottom of my heart! I don't really care about "backstories" and it's really presumptuous and rather arrogant for you to suggest that that's the reason people love the album (whether they're conscious of it or not).

riding on a cloud (blank), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link

i mean, i'm not into most of hunky dory at all, but i don't have to come up with some strawman conspiracy theory to validate my dislike. also, i know i'm wrong.

riding on a cloud (blank), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

I'll bet there's some relationship between average age of voter and preference for Low. I realize after this poll that I don't particularly have a favorite Bowie album at this point. When I listen to the top 60 playlist on Spotify, I seem to be gravitating towards the Scary Monsters tracks, which is interesting because it's not one of my first choices for "best album."

dlp9001, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

starman conspiracy

pplains, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Let's just accept that "favorite album" can change week to week if not day to day.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ yep

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

I voted Low No. 1.

I resisted Bowie for a long time because of the glitter, glam and clown suits. I grew up listening to Top 40 and Classic Rock radio stations and it was all "Let's Dance" and "Rebel Rebel". Hearing that there was this crazy doop-doop-doop record he recorded with the guy who made Bono a star didn't really entice me as a teen.

Later on in college, I finally put Low on and for the next 30 minutes or so, kept checking the copyright date on the label to reconfirm that this really was made in 1977? It sounded light years (sorry for the space term) ahead of what I was hearing at the time.

While there are some who make the Geir Hongroesque proclamations that the songs are but only snatches of static, one-offs, incomplete compositions or unpolished and that they lack the structure of those other bar-to-bar masterpieces is kinda missing the point of what makes Low so great. It's like the music nerd who pooh-poohed the Beatles at summer camp because "their vocals were flat."

Low was the first time it clicked for me just what kind of antenna Bowie had stuck up into the stars and it helped put in context all the other stuff. There's a reason why it's one of his lesser commercial efforts, but also provided the name of his box set. No, it's not a Rosetta Stone. Just rock and roll like nothing I'd ever heard before.

pplains, Saturday, 10 March 2012 20:59 (twelve years ago) link

Well, I really like Pinups. The music is taut, and bright, and zippy. Bowie's vocals are enjoyable and goofy. The song selection is really fun. I love his take on "Where Have All The Good Times Gone?" Although I always thought it was a missed opportunity for perfection, if only he had reversed the lyrics to: "Mommy didn't have no toys/and Daddy didn't need no boys." Wouldn't that be tremendous? I love the slowed tempo of I Can't Explain. There is no better album cover.

Up With Hoople (Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to the Nassau Coliseum show for the first time. Holy crap. Utterly relentless.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

Nassau is the best thing in his catalog. That band was amazing.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 March 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

loving this tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI1WQBUdB6c

pplains, Sunday, 11 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Love Pinups! The "See Emily play" cover is one of the weirdest things dude has produced.

Re: "Low" strawman. I agree with arrogant, sure, and I'm embarrassed. I'm a die-hard fan, I must admit; that fandom sometimes turns the good sense off.

(Normal board conversation usually keeps me purring but I must confess, there were some weird sensations on this thread, like, my heart-rate elevated when I saw "Secret life of Arabia" placed.)

So yeah if I've made any asshole statements upthread it's just 'cause the love runs deep for this man, just as [boarder] can get passionate about AFX or another about Radiohead or another about Biggy or whatevs and make a "don't vote for 'Big Poppa' you fuxx" post.

As for being called presumptuous, ennh, I dunno. Backstory is a large part of the appreciation of "Low", you can't deny it; the structure, the sounds, the mood. Tony Visconti getting some Eventides. Eno may or may not have written "Warszawa". The aborted Roeg score. The coke, the burnout, West Berlin, etc. I've had a hundred conversations about that album, I've written two papers about it, and all of them talked about Bowie's state of mind and/or the gated snare, but not one of them concerned "Always crashing in the same car". Or "What in the world". It's not so presumptuous.

Lastly, my frustration about "Low" placing first isn't b/c of some Geir-esque thing or because I don't Totally Love "Low" To Pieces, 'cause I do. It is just frustrating-- as a die-hard-- that so many people's #1 Bowie album is the one that contains the least amount of Bowie, being 60% instrumental, i.e. missing the man's voice and lyrics.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

It is just frustrating-- as a die-hard-- that so many people's #1 Bowie album is the one that contains the least amount of Bowie, being 60% instrumental, i.e. missing the man's voice and lyrics.

yeah, i understand that. the part of low that has vocals, though, is absolutely amazing, nonstop. if it was extended to both sides - the vocals, that is - it would somehow be even more esteemed than it already is, i think.

1986 Olive Garden (Z S), Sunday, 11 March 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link

Backstory is a large part of the appreciation of "Low", you can't deny it.

At the time I bought Low, around 1989 IIRC, I liked it because it reminded me of the Rocky Horror Picture Show in tone but was gratifyingly asexual. Ziggy Stardust was too much when you were viewing Bowie as a competitor for the affections of girls, but Low was just the ticket.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 11 March 2012 08:05 (twelve years ago) link

Lastly, my frustration about "Low" placing first isn't b/c of some Geir-esque thing or because I don't Totally Love "Low" To Pieces, 'cause I do. It is just frustrating-- as a die-hard-- that so many people's #1 Bowie album is the one that contains the least amount of Bowie, being 60% instrumental, i.e. missing the man's voice and lyrics.

I loathe biographical criticism. Also, I can't confuse "Subterraneans" and "Speed of Life" for anyone else's instrumentals; they're big, histrionic, and vulgar, like prime Bowie.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:55 (twelve years ago) link

Backstory is a large part of the appreciation of "Low", you can't deny it

shaking my motherfucking head til i get whiplash

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 11:57 (twelve years ago) link

I loathe biographical criticism. Also, I can't confuse "Subterraneans" and "Speed of Life" for anyone else's instrumentals; they're big, histrionic, and vulgar, like prime Bowie.

Yeah but I kinda agree with him in the sense that Low has always felt a little bit like a Bowie sketchbook rather than some perfectly formed masterpiece. That's not a qualitative statement on its material -- I love pretty much everything on it. But even if track for track Low is his best record, it still feels a little odd to call it his best album.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, won't talk shit about Low but I was really hoping this poll would be a Station to Station triumph

gospodin simmel, Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:47 (twelve years ago) link

Its placing also feels like a function of the times -- not only is the Berlin era the most influential right now, Low's diversity makes it a somewhat easier album to celebrate than one of his straight up genre exercises.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

in what sense is Low NOT a genre exercise?

(serious question)

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link

that so many people's #1 Bowie album is the one that contains the least amount of Bowie, being 60% instrumental, i.e. missing the man's voice and lyrics.

I disagree with the boldface part. What it lacks in his voice and lyrics, it gives back generously in a look into DB the thinker and conceptualizer, imo. As a comics nerd, I've seen many cases where a page's pencils and preliminary sketches were more interesting than the finished page.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link

wait -- you're suggesting that full-bodied instrumentals like Low's are the equivalent of sketches?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link

A couple of them -- "Weeping Wall" and "Some Are," mainly -- have always seemed like they could have been conceived as X and presented as Y. I don't know -- it's certainly no impediment to enjoyment -- Low was my #1 album by a huge margin.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

I loathe biographical criticism.

NO I'M NOT talking about like "oooh this gated snare represents his mom", I'm talking about 'talking points'. I could ask you ten questions about the making of this record right now and you'd get them all right.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

Low is just placed on such a pedestal of intellectual/avant-garde/genius these days. For some reason it reminds me of people that say Smile was the greatest piece of music ever written and would have changed the world.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link

There's probably 2x the amount of bio written about the making of 'Low' than any other Bowie album. It's simply the intellectual's album and that's that.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

but what if you've never read any bio and you still love Low are you an intellectual y/n?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link

what if you've loved Low since your mid-teens were you a teenage intellectual?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

i did have glasses tbf

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

It just means you brilliant taste over all the simpletons that like Hunky Dory.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Dumb joke, i realize i'm about to get shat on for.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

Hunky Dory used to be my fave i think but this shdn't be a "either/or" proposition, whatever you wanna think about the meaning of liking Low it's pretty obvious that its outness has been diminished by time and influence. like i guess i first heard it in the early to mid 80s and already in the context of what pop music sounded like there was nothing really odd to me at that age. tho i guess i had no handle on what "ambient" was back then.

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link

i guess i do think that Hunky Dory is the "straighter" record - nb just remembered i played "Bewlay Bros" on the jukebox in the pub last night but that only makes it a more honest choice if you really singer-songwriter types and hate whatever kind of thing Low is

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link

really love singer-songwriter types i meant

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link

Who hates Low?

There've been outright "I hate Aladdin Sane" "I hate Young Americans" and it's like, "uh huh, some people do".

I love "Outside" but it's a fringe thing; obv you can't appreciate "Outside" without being acquainting with every character, which songs they sing and whether they own a goat-scrotum purse or a lamb-penis necklace

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link

Nobody hates Low. Of all the Bowie album reviews I've read, pretty much all of them about Low have just fawned over how brilliant it is. Maybe I don't read enough album reviews?

Compared this to say, any of his other albums. They all have tracks that get on people's nerves, weak points, etc. Low just sort of seems untouchable.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

Personally I love "Low", I even covered a few of those songs in bands over the years. But it does seem a bit idealized by the current generation.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

is it a surprise if some 30-odd year old albums speak more to the current generation than others?

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

altho again that discounts a lot of the people who've loved it between 1977 and now

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

maybe Hunky Dory was big with the antifolk kids or whatever, assuming they really existed

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

Compared this to say, any of his other albums. They all have tracks that get on people's nerves, weak points, etc. Low just sort of seems untouchable.

"Be My Wife" gets on my nerves tbh. There are a couple other songs on that album that I like when I hear, but don't really stick with me, unlike "Aladdin Sane" which is one memorable awesome song after another.

sarahell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:55 (twelve years ago) link

You and me both Sarahell--for some reason I can't stand Be My Wife and TVC15, they make my skin crawl!

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 11 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link

THanks to EZ here for pursuading me to listen to Stage again

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

(persuade)

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, the antifolk kids once existed, but now they've morphed into the crusties.

Sort of sounds like a Bowie lyric.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Low is just placed on such a pedestal of intellectual/avant-garde/genius these days.

This was the case 20+ years ago when I got into Bowie. As an impressionable 18-year-old I was keen to follow the party line but over time I lost interest in it. I don't think there's anything weak or annoying about it, I just find it kinda meh and am surprised at how highly people rate it.

fit and working again, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

I vaguely remember a quote from Robert Smith saying how he lost interest in Bowie when Low came out. At the time I thought he was nuts.

fit and working again, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

You're welcome Ówen! Hope you have the reissue; the correct ordering and extra songs push it over the top.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

I have the Ryko, is that the one you mean? Also, kudos on voting for Outside songs although we voted for the opposite ones

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

I was gonna vote "Voyeur of utter destruction (as beauty)" cause I love that song but felt embarrassed by the title.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

This is where I say it's a CRIME that (damn good) filler like "A New Career In a New Town" places but Outside gets shut out. On my ballot that was too late, I had "Thru' These Architect's Eyes" in my top ten. Tons of cuts on it were worthy, tho -- "I'm Deranged," "The Motel," "A Small Plot of Land" to name a few. People focus way too much on the (negligible) NIN influences and concept (actually quite wry) and not nearly enough on the quality of songwriting (Bowie's best since the mid-70s), production (nervy and maximalist) and singing (arguably Bowie's best). Easily in my top 5 Bowie records and, at times, my very favorite.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

Outside has tons of good cuts, so it was nice to see 3/4 of the record represented (if poorly).

The EMI reissue of Stage in 2005 added "Stay" and "Be My Wife", removed the between song fades and corrected the running order to reflect the concerts. Bowie makes me rebuy albums far too often.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

"A New Career in a New Town" isn't filler ffs

Kony Montana: "Say hello to my invisible friend" (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link

the number of reissues and repackagings are crazy

sarahell, Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

The 1990 Low reissue got a savage review in one of the UK monthlies... (ha, it might actually have been Jon Savage) 3/10 or something. "Responsible for Gary Numan and all that crap" was the gist. I recall Steve Sutherland giving Scott Walker's Boychild comp on Fontana a kicking around the same time. Wrong wrong wrongy wrong.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 11 March 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

"A New Career in a New Town" isn't filler ffs

You may be right -- but as much as I like it, it's not one of Bowie's 60 best songs either. That says more about his catalog than it does ANCiaNT, tho.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/6973345197_a0d07775d0_b.jpg
Bowie b&w by Tommytinkroom, on Flickr

gazelleonstage, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

buffandmaxsmom?

You're welcome child. It was just another day being your God (crüt), Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry forgot this one.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7196/6827233380_64554bb110_b.jpg
Bowie Gold by Tommytinkroom, on Flickr

gazelleonstage, Sunday, 11 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

I love "Outside" but it's a fringe thing; obv you can't appreciate "Outside" without being acquainting with every character, which songs they sing and whether they own a goat-scrotum purse or a lamb-penis necklace

Bowie's libretto might represent a new low (see what I did there) for unreadable musician prose. I love Outside though. "Thru These Architects' Eyes" and "Strangers When We Meet" made my top twenty. The latter is his best love song.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Also this doesn't get enough play, AFAIC:

Eno may or may not have written "Warszawa".

The oft told story about Eno writing the music while Bowie was away has never rung true to me.* ** *** The music not only sounds completely different than anything Eno was writing at the time -- it's completely different than anything he's written since. Also, so much of it is on Chamberlain, which was hardly his instrument of choice.

*I'm not thinking of "Art Decade" am I?
** No I'm not. Per Eno in a 1978 interview with Glenn O’Brien:

Then there were two days when David had to go to Paris because he was being sued by someone, so rather than wasting the studio time I decided to start a piece on my own, with the understanding that if he didn’t like it I’d use it myself or something. I just couldn’t face wasting the studio time. So I started working on that piece and in fact all the instrumentation was finished when David got back, and he put the vocals on top. That was “Warszawa.” It was a very clear division of labor.

*** I'm still not entirely sure if I buy it -- or all of it anyway.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

Bowie's libretto might represent a new low (see what I did there) for unreadable musician prose.

See, this is what kills me. The guy spends 25 years burying characters he writes about in Burroughs cut-up techniques, stories that have no resolution and references that are intentionally oblique -- and when he adds intentionally tongue-in-cheek monologues to the brew, suddenly it's a bridge too far far, far far far, far far far away.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 11 March 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

To add to the "Bowie on classic rock radio" discussion way upthread, here's how he placed in the 1987 WNEW-FM New York Top 1027 Songs of All Time Listener's Poll:

-- #62 - SUFFRAGETTE CITY
-- #132 - REBEL REBEL
-- #165 - YOUNG AMERICANS
-- #179 - MODERN LOVE
-- #251 - SPACE ODDITY
-- #259 - HEROES
-- #322 - PANIC IN DETROIT
-- #467 - CHANGES
-- #477 - LET'S DANCE
-- #499 - GOLDEN YEARS
-- #550 - FAME
-- #602 - ZIGGY STARDUST
-- #834 - UNDER PRESSURE
-- #842 - LET'S SPEND THE NIGHT TOGETHER
-- #860 - FASHION
-- #982 - ASHES TO ASHES

Hideous Lump, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

xpost
Warsawa is the only Low track for which Eno gets a songwriting credit, so I'm inclined to believe his story on that one.

As for New Career, it's anything but filler, in fact it's the track that gets to the heart of what Bowie was doing in Low.

I think Low's reputation as "best bowie album" has something to do with the fact that it's a sort of ur-text for the post-punk/art rock continuum. It may not have "invented the eighties" as the cliche goes but it certainly invented the bits that have been most revived in the past decade and a half or so. Personally I think Station To Station is now the stranger and therefore fresher-sounding album these days, partly because it didn't have the same level of influence.

hugo_w, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

The consensus will change as the generations change.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 March 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

Indeed.

hugo_w, Monday, 12 March 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

Of course, a decade ago, StS was the consensus pick...

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

Was it though? The late nineties/early noughties marked the beginning of the Low ascendancy I'd have thought. Bowie was performing it live in its entirety, Radiohead had taken a Low-like turn towards electronica, Pitchfork placed Low no. 1 in its list of top 100 albums in the 70s...

hugo_w, Monday, 12 March 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

^This

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 March 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

and prior to that, ziggy stardust and hunky dory duked it out for supremacy. tbh, i think that ziggy still takes the crown among casual fans of all ages and predilections.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

xxp in 1985 the NME Top 100 albums of all time listed Low at #15, Young Americans (!) at #36, Heroes at #64 and Station at #66.

fit and working again, Monday, 12 March 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

no other Bowie albums made the 100

fit and working again, Monday, 12 March 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link

Did Bowie release Low in time for it to be included on the Voyager missions?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link

good point, hugo.

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

So glad "The Man Who Sold the World" placed high. What an effing amazing song. Cobain had great taste.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 March 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link

xpost
I think those NME all time top 100 charts tell the story. I guess in 1985, "normal" Bowie was still a new phenomenon and his role as a postpunk forerunner still meant something. But by the 1988 chart, the highest Bowie entry is Ziggy at 33 (I guess post Never Let Me Down his stock had sunk low) and Low only clocks in at 71. The 1993 list finds Bowie still relatively unpopular (highest entry is Hunky Dory at 38, Low is at 67). Then by 2003, Bowie's stock has risen somewhat, and his highest placing album is Low at 26.

hugo_w, Monday, 12 March 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link

others apparently differ, but i think that the rise and fall (and rise) of bowie's rep must have been more a UK than a US thing, or else concerned critics far more than music fans in general. by the mid-late 80s, his rep as a classic rocker with strong appeal to punks, wavers, goths, indie rockers, & artmusic types was firmly established, and this wasn't much affected by success or failure of his work post let's dance.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 12 March 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

Someone sheepishly mentioned upthread that they first heard Bowie in a Wes Anderson movie. In fairness to "Queen Bitch", its placement in "The Life Aquatic" is far more of a marquee billing than at the end of "Hunky Dory".

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Monday, 12 March 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

Was it though? The late nineties/early noughties marked the beginning of the Low ascendancy I'd have thought. Bowie was performing it live in its entirety, Radiohead had taken a Low-like turn towards electronica, Pitchfork placed Low no. 1 in its list of top 100 albums in the 70s...

Spin Record Guide had it as his best ca. 1994 or so. So maybe it's more like two decades.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 March 2012 11:32 (twelve years ago) link

The Bowie entry (by Rob Sheffield) calls STS his best ("the one where Major Tom learned how to dance").

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:50 (twelve years ago) link

His Bowie entry might be the best thing Sheffield did in that book.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 March 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred otm; the only album that made the list at the back of the record guide was ChangesOneBowie, but Station to Station was the only "regular album" that got a 10 was Station. iirc Low got a 9...

top 100 comedy facepalms of all time (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 12 March 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

Someone sheepishly mentioned upthread that they first heard Bowie in a Wes Anderson movie.

I think that was me...but what I actually said (sheepishly, yes) was that it was Life Acquatic that got me to love "Queen Bitch." I'd owned Hunky Dory for a few years at that point--came to the album very late--but for whatever reason didn't take much notice of the song the one or two times I played it.

clemenza, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

"Queen Bitch" was #2 on my ballot and it was the same for me. Thank you Wess Andersson

an elk hunt (Ówen P.), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

I've been listening to a lot of Paul Simon the last few days for the new poll, but keep going back to Bowie on Spotify like I'm sneaking out back to have a smoke.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

First time I ever heard "The Man Who Sold the World" was Nirvana's cover. Btw, if you want to g00gle the chords, the top two results say it's by Nirvana. Makes me nostalgic for the Napster days. ("Foxy Lady" by the Beatles, etc)

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

I first heard Low during the summer of 1989 when I was a summer boarder in the city and one of the fellows living in the house had a copy. I only knew his radio hits at the time, and a few videos from Lodger that MuchMusic would occasionally play. I didn't know anything about the album and Side 1 blew my mind. It still sounds incredibly fresh and exciting today. Side 2 took a lot longer to get into - in fact, it's only recently that I have more than a slight tolerance for mostly instrumental music (thanks Harmonia). Anyway, people can have a genuine preference for this album without trying to be trendy.

I'd shortlisted "Hallo Spaceboy," "We Prick You," and a couple of other post-SM tracks, but in the end there was too much good stuff from the 70s for them to have any hope on my ballot.

Kent Burt, Sunday, 18 March 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

Listening to "Heroes" for the first time in 21 years. It's not that I disliked it when I first heard it, but it got pushed aside once I had my first experiences with John Coltrane and Albert Ayler. Anyway, I wish I'd listened to this during voting, because "Sense of Doubt" would've been in my top 5, easy.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Following up on the experiment some dude did with the Stones poll numbers, here's a comparison of the actual album voting with the cumulative point totals for songs by album.

Album results:
1. LOW (1977) - 325 points
2. STATION TO STATION (1976) - 306 points
3. HUNKY DORY (1971) - 198 points
4. THE RISE AND FALL OF ZIGGY STARDUST AND THE SPIDERS FROM MARS (1972) - 153 points
5. "HEROES" (1977) - 135 points
6. LODGER (1979) - 135 points
7. ALADDIN SANE (1973) - 112 points
8. DIAMOND DOGS (1974) - 87 points
9. SCARY MONSTERS (1980) - 60 points
10. YOUNG AMERICANS (1975) - 28 points
11. OUTSIDE (1995) - 14 points
12. THE MAN WHO SOLD THE WORLD - 13/3/0
14. (tie) DAVID LIVE - 7/1/0
14. (tie) STAGE - 7/1/0
16. (tie) LET'S DANCE - 6/2/0
16. (tie) SPACE ODDITY - 6/2/0
17. BLACK TIE WHITE NOISE - 3/1/0
21. (tie) Changesonebowie - 1/1/0
21. (tie) EARTHLING - 1/1/0
21. (tie) HEATHEN - 1/1/0
21. (tie) LABYRINTH (soundtrack) - 1/1/0

...and the albums ranked by how many points their tracks were given:

1. Hunky Dory - 4370
2. Low - 4137
3. Station to Station - 3731
3. Ziggy Stardust - 3731
5. Scary Monsters - 2712
6. "Heroes" - 2698
7. Aladdin Sane - 2280
8. Lodger - 2010
9. Young Americans - 1692
10. Diamond Dogs - 1666
11. Let's Dance - 1067
12. The Man Who Sold the World - 959
13. Space Oddity - 801
14. Outside - 346
15. Black Tie White Noise - 136
16. Heathen - 132
17. Earthling - 120

improvised explosive advice (WmC), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

this was the best poll

mookieproof, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link

sometimes when 'stay' starts up i think it's 'stranglehold' tho

mookieproof, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:35 (eleven years ago) link

This poll broke my brain

is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Friday, 6 July 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really have anything to say about its order -- i've just been listening to a lot of bowie ever since and it's grebt

mookieproof, Friday, 6 July 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link

Nah the order was cool, I just got plunged back into a teenage level of obsessive thinking that is only reserved for three or four other things

is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Friday, 6 July 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

1) alouettes football
2) louis spohr
3) ?

mookieproof, Friday, 6 July 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

this poll was in fact better than many television shows I have watched.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 6 July 2012 03:02 (eleven years ago) link

Am hoping the Neil Young poll will be equally awesome, although it appears turnout will be significantly less

yes (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 6 July 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

this poll was in fact better than many television shows I have watched.

High praise

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 6 July 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link

This poll and the Led Zeppelin poll were incredibly fun, but this one rearranged my brain towards the artist much more. I loved following the comments because I knew so much less about Bowie coming in than I did by the end. I already knew more than anyone needs to know about Zeppelin.

grandavis, Friday, 6 July 2012 13:18 (eleven years ago) link

The Beastie Boys poll was also awesome. They're the only two I've ever really got involved in - these big polls are usually too big and involved for me to keep up with.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 July 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

ppl totally underrated 'man who sold the world'

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

also no votes for the santa monica (i think) record? the live spiders one?

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link

Thomp if you mean they underrated the album TMWSTW then you are so right, but that abum wears "underrated" real well, there's lots to love if you're sympathetic to it

is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Friday, 6 July 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

Xp lol mookie, in all honesty if there was a "rank every episode of MASH in order" you'd see a zealousness usually reserved for FF7 otherkin or Radiohead fans

is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Friday, 6 July 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

it's my favourite spiders record. well, proto-spiders. don't understand how 'width of a circle' didn't place.

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

it's the best bowie tune apart from all the other bowie tunes

thomp, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

I think you're right

is capybara gay? (Ówen P.), Friday, 6 July 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I forgot to vote in this one but yeah, the absence of "Width of a Circle" was pretty surprising.

cwkiii, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Showrunning this poll and the LZ poll was (were?) huge fun. I'm glad everyone else seems to have had a good time as well.

Neil Jung (WmC), Friday, 6 July 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

this poll inspired me to order The Complete David Bowie, which happened to arrive in the mail today!

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 6 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

and already, it's making me seek out things. the entry for Ashes to Ashes (which is 6 columns of small text!) mentions that Bowie has cited the 1952 musical number called "Inchworm" as a melodic influence on the song.

Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Friday, 6 July 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

surprised no one's revived this yet.

piscesx, Thursday, 14 January 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

blackstar would be top 10, lazarus top 15

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 14 January 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Would be worth repolling in a few years, but not now while people are still rending garments.

WilliamC, Thursday, 14 January 2016 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Also would be worth repolling because the body of work is complete (give or take five songs).

WilliamC, Thursday, 14 January 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I'd be interested to see what happens if we redid this in a little while. Right now I think Blackstar and Lazaras might even be in with a shout of winning.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 18 January 2016 10:55 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

the Jack Doherty interview mentioned many posts above is here. i'd never seen it but yeah it's quite something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yL4xxGE73E

christ this poll was *five years* ago.

piscesx, Monday, 2 October 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

it's a hell of a life when "lady grinning soul" isn't even one of your top 60 songs

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link

she'llllll coooommme

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 December 2017 03:07 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

I revise this thing every year. It's hard to dump a song.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 June 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

fans might want to check out this 3-hour career survey / interview with Chris O'Leary from WFMU

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/84321

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:28 (five years ago) link


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