Rolling Psych/Drone/Freak Thread 2012

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Rolling Stoner/Psych/Doom/Sludge/Retro/Drone/Space Thread 2012

Hey awesome! Thanks Ned!

liking Starving Weirdos - Land Lines. especially the last track, interesting post-apocalyptic vibe to it

new Windy & Carl is def worth picking up.

and just grabbed Ilias Ahmed - The Endless Fire, looking forward to sinking into that later

Woo hoo!

The 5th annual Austin Psych Fest has a killer lineup. I really want to go but I don't think I'll be able.

ooh i wanna hear new starving weirdos!

new Windy & Carl is def worth picking up.

backed

if you're some dbag who just downloads everything, don't be put off by the first track - the other seven just sound like really on-point W&C

one of my fave small vinyl-only labels sent me something new. one man metallic guitar stuff. PLANTE. they don't put out a ton of stuff, but everything they put out is good. seriously wish more people had heard the Rat Catching album they put out:

http://fedoracorpse.com/

digging the new Cutical and Ital releases... still very much experimental psychedelic projects... playing with/warping the house/techno code as yet another realm for post-everything psychedelic expansion

I think if you listens to them in this context (as an extension of this scene), the spaciness makes more sense (and I personally still think 'hipster house' as a term and idea is kind of an off-base and dismissive way to frame the post-drone/psych house/rave acts)

also recently picked up

Aidan Baker - The Spectrum of Distraction
Steve R. Smith - Old Skete

looking forward to hearing that Innergaze release and the new Golden Retriever

*Inner Tube, rather

The new LP from Nicholas Szczepanik is beautiful. The shorter song-form track lengths suit him. Though there's a pretty heavy Caretaker influence in places the album also reminds me of Colleen's Everyone Alive Wants Answers, which could never be a bad thing.

http://soundcloud.com/nszcz/we-make-life-sad-side-a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMb8Zc2YFnM

Absolutely loving Dead Skeletons Dead Magick. Motorik, japa & Bo Diddley collide with a cosmic Laibach feel: it's a genuine drone/psych/freak thing, but a real crowd pleaser at the same time. Tremendous.

A relevant read:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2012-02-22/music/on-mirel-wagner-and-the-alleged-death-and-apparent-spread-of-freak-folk/

interesting read^

been thinking a little bit on freefolk... how the folk hype had to pass eventually, but that the thing is it really was more just a ripple across the surface of a slightly bigger stream that is continually winding and changing shape. so this underground, and what grew out of it, would maybe be better grasped in terms of its underlying approach than its form - which is not only loose and mercurial year by year, but even, by its nature, within every song/track

which is maybe why attempts to name it - New Weird America/freakfolk, Hypnagogic Pop/chillwave, post-noise/drone, witchhouse, etc - only describe (temporary) surface appearances, when underneath there's something of a continuity there, like this witchy'/New Age thing (the recent witchy ethereal/goth girls really grew out of the witchy freefolk muse thing), spaciness/noise/drone, sigil/triangle imagery, etc.

although, prob wouldn't declare previous iterations in that scene/tradition/whatever-it-is totally outmoded (or gone) either necessarily... I mean, Matt Valentine and Charalambides made two of my fav albums last year

the new Grouper/Tiny Vipers collab, Mirroring - Foreign Body, is pretty gorgeous

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5i40lO1j_YE/TzbfbJwIctI/AAAAAAAAAKA/IXkC57r6udc/s320/grouper3.jpg

Gunn-Truscinski Duo record sounding radical
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/02/23/147296222/for-the-open-road-the-gunn-truscinski-duos-expanded-americana

also, since i'm here, i endorse this rangda live recording: http://bleakbliss.blogspot.com/2011/12/rangda-false-flag.html

That Gunn/Truscinski track is pretty cool. Covers a lot of interesting territory, way more "pleasant" than I was expecting for some reason, but it really hit the spot today. Thanks for posting.

yeah, kinda starts to boogie after a while.

Totally boogies, in a "the clouds are parting, let the sun shine in" kinda way, which is really working on a late Friday afternoon for me.

And, similarly, this Rangda clip posted on that bleakblissblog is super-pretty and pleasant with added Sir Richard shredding added on. Also made my afternoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp1hsF1irM8&feature=related

Hope I get to see them at some point, what a powerhouse line-up.

listening to Ecstatic Crystallization by Majutsu No Niwa (released last year) and oh man does this hit the right drone spots

Wow, really really digging this Haino O'Rourke Ambarchi track that Dusted has streaming from their review today (it's unedited, and like 25 minutes long, and awesome!)

Strongly recommend going and checking it out

listening now, sounds rad. thanks for the tip! i haven't listened to many of the recent o'rourke-related improv stuff, but this is making me want to!

Hadn't listened to much either, but this gets pretty rocking, has me very interested as well.

May need to severely upgrade the "pretty rocking" statement btw

lol yeah. sweet krautrock groove + out of control skronk. i like.

this is quite a description

He commands everything about him like some thunderbolt-wielding god atop a mountain, abetted by pitiless angels who know that their power comes from keeping him at the peak.

http://actionfigurecanada.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/thor_select.jpg?w=450

Hah, yeah, it is. Haino tends to generate a lot of hyperbole, but it's part of the fun of liking Haino.

This Franco Falsini reissue is really nice if yr into Göttsching etc:
http://open.spotify.com/album/55kf1PrRKys3eaPcezjCDl

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dUO5FqLkYTI/TeJNLu7W8YI/AAAAAAAAOS0/tWp60mfpoew/s1600/Franco_Falsini.jpg

oooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooo
thx

really enjoyed the last haino/o'rourke/ambarchi collabo - def. excited to hear the new one!

This Franco Falsini reissue is really nice if yr into Göttsching etc:
http://open.spotify.com/album/55kf1PrRKys3eaPcezjCDl

http://i40.tinypic.com/2mel37.jpg

h8 u amerika

:(

I love the title!

cold nose more like cold shoulder amirite

ice cold

That Franco Falsini will be released on Spectrum Spools.

Bay Area heads - Turkish psych legend Erkin Koray is going to be visiting Aquarius Records this Saturday for a meet & greet/signing, in what is I believe his first ever US visit (that's what the guy at Aquarius said - at the very least his first promotional event in the US)...

between 3 and 4pm.

wow!

Damn.

Read about that in the Aquarius mailing. Any word if he's coming down to LA at all?

I don't think so - was told this will be his only stop

Wow, really enjoying this Chris Forsyth record "Paranoid Cat":

http://soundcloud.com/chris-forsyth/sets/paranoid-cat-1/

Lots of interesting folks on it, e.g., Hans Chew, Marc Orleans, Nate Wooley, a guy from Mountains. Really hitting a lot of sweet spots for me, just a great well-rounded guitar record. Cool solos, melodic playing, some weirdo moves here and there. I tried listening to Peeessseye or whatever the spelled version of that band is, and didn't really dig it, can anyone suggest other stuff by this guy, or a good PSI record? Also, go listen to "Paranoid Cat". Family Vinyard write-up mentioned some Richard Lloyd-isms, but seems much more like a Verlaine guy to me.

Good call Grandavis, really good shit. I had never heard of him before but will definitely be investigating further.

The record Forsyth did with Koen Holtkamp (the aforesaid guy from Mountains) is really excellent too! You can listen to the whole thing here...

http://blackestrainbowrecords.bandcamp.com/track/early-astral-1

New Pharmacist Boogie is just fucking mind blowing. Wow indeed!

Thanks for the Chris Forsyth tipoff, that's really nice. Must check out the Blackest Rainbow thing too, Koen Holtkamp is usually ace.

I don't know where to put this, so I will put it here
Cosmic Dead has not one but TWO live albums on bandcamp now! Released at the end of March, apparently.
http://thecosmicdead.bandcamp.com/album/cozmik-live-aktion-vol-i

nice!!

^

Been away from a computer for a bit, thanks for the heads up NickB. Going to listen to that Holtkamp/Forsyth stuff later today.

Gonna chime in with Damo here to say that "New Pharmacist Boogie" is really cool.

I fucked up the link a little bit btw. Both tracks are here:

http://blackestrainbowrecords.bandcamp.com/album/early-astral

lol I thought Pharmacist Boogie was the name of a band

Hah. To clear this up for anyone still confused, "New Pharmacist Boogie" is the second song from the Chris Forsyth album "Paranoid Cat" linked above.

cosmic dead sound radical, thanks!

oh dude Cosmic Dead is a grrrrrreat band!

yeah they appear to know what they are doing.

Early days but I am liking a lot about the Psychonaut album. Keep this thread rolling people.

um just for clarification, are you talking about the Cosmic Dead album, or is that a new band I have yet to hear of?

I dunno, but I ponied up for the live Cosmic Dead recordings and while they're spotty in sound quality (not too, just a little) they are consistent with the monster groove.

I am referring to the Cosmic Dead album!

the new Sparkling Wide Pressure is pretty nice

I have been listening to the whole Chris Forsyth cannon. The guy is amazing. Has Koen Holtkamp done some good shit as well? Because the Mountains didn't do that much for me. Maybe I need to give it another try.

I'm a fan of KH's solo work but then I like Mountains too so idk.

Which KH solo work would you recommend?

http://worstward.bandcamp.com which is Steven R. Smith. OLD SKETE and the most recent Ulaan Kohl album. And whatever else I dredge up at bandcamp under the 'drone' tag. Oh, these guys: http://coopercult.bandcamp.com/album/s-t

Trying to catch more live shows, but have only made it out to Barn Owl and Acid Mothers Temple (to be fair, these venues were a two-hour-drive away). Trying to spend more time making the stuff, too.

Cosmic Dead are pretty great, though. Get on those guys.

Wow, that line justification is terrible. Can't tear my eyes away from it.

Aw man, I so wanted to go see AMT a few weeks back...

http://skyneedle.bandcamp.com/album/rave-cave-lp

^^ really digging the sky needle lp - rave cave. vocals kinda remind me a bit of a grittier susan langille?

They took a few songs to get rolling, but really got into it about the time they started "Pink Lady Lemonade." Worth the drive out.

Their Pink Lady Lemonade album was one of my favorites from last year. I was thinking about taking a bus into Chi but I'd have to drive to Kalamazoo and my car was kinda broke down. Fixed now :\

I honestly don't even try to keep up with their studio albums any more, but I go out of my way to see 'em whenever possible. Kinda like Spiritualized, only I don't go see them...

I just listened to their new one, Son Of A Bitches Brew. Great title, and of course a tribute to Miles' album. It is the first one I've gotten in a decade, since Univers Zen Ou De Zéro à Zéro. Such an overwhelming catalog. Someone needs to do a guide along the lines of the bloke who's curating the Circle stuff so thoroughly.

ha I'm still working my way through; I would say though that the two from last year were great though...

I almost got SON OF A BITCHES BREW based on the title alone. And the PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN-pun one, but I watched the opening act of the show instead and didn't want to give up my mostly upfront space for the AMT set.

first track off of Rippers at the Heavens Gate of Dark is the business:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sd0uuy6X9A

(thx to crut)

Saw the Magik Markers on Tuesday, and it was great! Hadn't seen them since 2006 or so, and didn't love that show (was during a duo period for the band, and it didn't work that well for me. I think Elisa benefits from being to be able to play over another guitar/bass, i.e., come in and out guitar-wise, to really do what she does best, or maybe they just had an off night that night, not sure). I had seen them in the original line-up a couple times and loved it, so was happy to see them in a trio format again. Not sure who the guy playing bass is, but it was cool. I am older (as are they), so was kinda happy that the show was more droney/krauty than full-on crazy like some of the old shows. It was really beautiful at times, but still full of gnarly guitar workouts. Even sounded like Yo La Tengo at some points honestly. I really don't how Elisa does what she does on guitar sometimes, it is like she wills it into speaking a very personal language. I swear at times the only thing touching her guitar was her hair, and it was shredding.

Another great part of the night was Mike Gangloff opening (ex-Pelt). He did solo banjo and fiddle songs, some old Appalachian tunes, some original, and it was gorgeous.

Yeah I saw Magik Markers a couple months ago and it was the best set I'd seen by them. Pretty short, had some moments of shred, but a lot of focused kraut jamming too. I think they are in a good place right now.

Third dude, at least as of a year ago, is John Shaw, late of Son of Earth. Tall skinny dude with a beard?

Yeah, tall skinny dude with beard. Maybe heard Gangloff mention him as well, so must be the case. Never heard Son of Earth, any good?

I like 'em. They're very, very, very quiet. Like, almost 'electro-acoustic' quiet, at least on their best albums. A tough live proposition but definitely worth it if you give it the time. I recall one show was the three of them sitting on a wooden floor in a semi circle rolling a big heavy silver ball to each other, creating a soft rumbling sound. Band also featured Matt Krefting and Aaron Rosenblum (later of Sapat).

Cool, thanks. Sounds like a nice live experience, actually, as long as the bill wasn't set up to be a "rock" gig. Wish I could see more shows like that these days, i.e., non po-faced "electro-acoutic" shows (not that those can't be good too): but kinda pranksterish, fun, and inventive sound-for-sound's sake shows. Actually work with Krefting's brother sometimes, who was really amused that anyone at work knew who his brother was.

Well, another "show report" post here, but I just saw Man Forever (aka Kid Millions, or John Colpitts as he is known these days) doing his "Panasophical Cataract" show, and it was really cool. I saw clips of earlier instances where it was just he and another drummer doing an eternal single-stroke roll, and while cool enough, I think it was probably way cooler for the performers than the audience in a way. Last night it was the full-band experience, and what I like about it is that he is recruiting different people to do it every night. It sounded great (oddly enough Mike Gangloff from Pelt was the keyboardist for this version and was awesome), really heavy with just random syncs between the three tonal instruments and the constant but constantly modulating patterns of the twinned single-stroke rolls from the snare. At times the air would be completely sucked out of the room when a certain set of frequencies/tones were held by the instruments, and then at others the whole room would seem to lift when a consonance between them was hit. Pretty mesmerizing, for sure. 27 more dates on the tour, so I definitely recommend folks go if it swings through your town. Hell, you may even be able to perform in it if you contact Kid, he needs to fill the band out in each town. Hit him up, sure wish I had been playing in it.

Love Kid Millions! Sounds very righteous.

Hey all, want to make sure regular thread readers know about this thing I'm helping put together:

For Lee Jackson in Space: a tribute album (one for the psych/drone fans)

Final tracklisting to be announced next week. It's a doozy already!

Ned, that looks very cool. Always makes me really glad when a community rallies around a person, represents the best parts of humanity to a degree.

Not too get too sappy here, but the Man Forever show was especially cool because Kid had sought out people that meant something to him to play the piece. He would go see Pelt before anyone knew who he was, and was thus psyched to have Mike Gangloff in the band for the night.

So yeah, the show was righteous on many levels, go see it!

yeah the man forever stuff sounds neat-o. wish he was playing somewhere near me!

there's a live set on fmu here: http://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/45071

A friend of mine recorded the show here in Charlottesville as well, will probably get a copy of it at some point. Who played on the WFMU version, do you know offhand?

says "Man Forever is (today at least): Kid Millions + Brian Chase, snare drum; James McNew, bass; Dave Kadden, organ; David First, guitar. "

Cool, thanks! Gonna definitely check that out.

the "eternal single-stroke roll" you mentioned is actually sort of amazing. seems like it is going to be boring but is hypnotic.

Dude, the music was great, but honestly the theater was way more entertaining than I thought it would be as well. Kid sits kinda zen-like through the whole thing, as obviously he has done this a bunch, but in talking to him it was made evident that this is not easy for him to do at all. Very tough physically, though he made it look effortless. Contrast this with the other drummer, which on this evening was Nathan Bowles from Spriral Joy Band (and late-period Pelt as well I think), who grimaced and puffed and just gutted his way through it, whilst never letting the roll stop. Was really interesting talking to both of them afterwards, and yeah, it just wasn't boring at all. The longer it went on, the more entrancing it got. Really heavy with the rules-based playing of the other folks too, subtle note shifts would just become epic events.

yeah the fmu thing is just ridiculous in terms of physical stamina!

WFMU set was cool, definitely close to the live set I saw, but I must stress that live it was WAY cooler. I think the guys playing last night got a little more interesting with the set of limitations, or just hit more strange moments with them by accident, but it was definitely heavier. Part of that is probably just a room sound vs. the radio (the drums in particular lost weight on the radio for me, but my computer/headphones also suck, so that might not be helping), but I would strongly recommend that anyone digging that radio set go to a show if Kid hits your area.

http://www.indyweek.com/indyweek/the-drumming-universe-of-oneidas-kid-millions/Content?oid=3073237

So hey folks, the Lee Jackson tribute full tracklisting info is up:

For Lee Jackson in Space: a tribute album (one for the psych/drone fans)

I am really digging this Robert Turman album, though it's squarely in Drone territory and not so much Psych/Freak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PKWTsKXExE

Maybe it'd fit better in the Disintegration Loops thread, I don't know. Rolling hypnotic lo-fi minimalism 2012.

Oh yeah, it's a reissue of a 1981 cassette on Spectrum Spooks, who also did that Franco Falsini Cold Nose reissue.

Cold Nose is so awesome.

It is!

Oh and Spectrum Spools, y'all, my bad.

Spectrum Stools?

Anyway, For Lee Jackson in Space is now live:

http://forleejacksoninspace.bandcamp.com/

Spectrum Stools?

and/or Rectum Stools

Oh joy!

Now ilxor, you do know there's a Six Organs track on that tribute there, yeah? :-D

Man, Ned, that comp looks like a list of all the artists I've been getting WAY into for the past couple years

Just reading your mind, is all. Well, maybe.

That's a pretty great lineup! Is there a physical version or just digital? I'll buy whichever there is but if there's a choice I'll buy physical.

(And I guess it would be in poor taste to wonder how the Azusa Plane ended up on a tribute to someone who died 6 years after Jason DiEmilio, so I'll just be happy that one of AP's most immense tracks is now out there on a new release to be heard by more people.)

Just digital. Far easier to manage!

Not in poor taste: Lee was a huge fan and had noted Jason's passing with sorrow, and Carol Dale had offered up the use of anything from Camera Obscura if desired. Combine that with said track's immensity and it all clicked.

That's cool, seems like a good pairing! And now I look more closely, yeah, I guess this would run to around 10 CDs, so I don't blame anyone for not wanting to take that on in physical form. Wow.

Thanks, Ned.

Yer welcome!

Tonight's Chromatic Aberrations show on Radio Valencia will focus on selections from the album and there will be a podcast version later:

http://radiovalencia.fm/chromaticaberrations/2012/06/06/chromatic-aberrations68-12am-for-lee-jackson-in-space/

That comp looks amazing, well done indeed Ned!

Found this on one of my scandinavian music blergs: Starlight Serenaders "Orange Wind"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rP7oIX-QCU

Hey ho, new Peaking Lights streaming here:

http://soundcloud.com/weirdworldrecordco/sets/peaking-lights-lucifer

good show at the flywheel:

MAN FOREVER
Enveloping drum wash - like Tony Conrad's Flicker turned into sound, played on one sixteen foot drum - by Kid Millions (Oneida) and Richard Hoffman (Sightings) and maybe others, I dunno.
BENJAMIN MILLER
Feeding Tube Records record release show! Deconstructed multiphonic guitar, tapes, voice, etc.
GARY HIGGINS
Yes, THAT Gary Higgins, of the classic 1973 psych-folk LP Red Hash.
THE SEDIMENT CLUB
Can we talk about their parents? They were in the Bush Tetras and the Voidoids.

$8

i might go to this local color show coming up at the 'wheel too : Steve Baczowski, Chris Corsano, Paul Flaherty, Bill Nace quartet

I've been somewhat familiar with St Louis based electronic musician Raglani for years, but I'm listening to his 2010 record Of Sirens Born and it's sounding very fresh
This morning's review on Dusted of his new one is what stoked my interest

Scott, I covered this pretty heavily above, but will definitely say that the Man Forever show I saw was excellent. Not for everybody, but I found it really compelling on multiple levels. If Richard Hoffman is playing as well that is a big bonus, he's great.

Really though, with Gary Higgins on the bill as well seems like a complete winner of a night.

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

Not trying to make a big 4th of July brouhaha or tie-in, but this is pretty astounding (and I only know about from someone posting it yesterday, so there ya go). I really dig when someone can translate themselves so succesfully into a known commodity and kick your ass with it, and this just delivers on that idea on so many levels for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=USlBuN_g5T8

Ah shit, not sure why that didn't embed properly, but it is Bill Orcutt doing "The Star Spangled Banner".

Fuck it, here's some more Orcutt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyiDepQQ56o&feature=related

think i hate bill orcutt. anyone hear the new corsano?

that Orcutt SSB was way great; thx grandavis

Sure thing LLB. New Corsano I have heard sounded great, but just a track or two. Those two songs made me want to hear the whole thing without a doubt though.

I can see Orcutt not being one's thing, but glad that is not the case for me.

there's some corsano vids on the ecstatic peace site, they're coming from the young cricketer end of things which is great by me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bNsmvCSaU

really thought i wld dig orcutt & there were a few initial things that caught my ear but the more i've listened to the more limited it sounds. i wish i cld just write it off but there is still an overall neatness to the phrasing, his technique is obv pleasingly & he has v appealing moments but i am mostly bored by the one-note sleepy-drunk lofi sloppyness of it.

Yeah, Corsano covers a lot of terrain successfully, that clip is great. Orcutt is definitely playing from a limited palette, and I can only take it in smallish doses (that 20 minute clip above seems about right as far as what I could get through live, depending on him mixing it up a bit), I can get being bored by it. I don't get sleepy-drunk (or lo-fi actually) from it at all though. He seems heavily invested in it, and attacks the guitar with a lot of gusto. Not necessarily vituosic (a la much of Corsano's stuff) but certainly accomplished. I get what you are saying though, would certainly come across that way if you aren't feeling it.

Any opinions on the White Manna album to be had here?

moreover

Can someone tell me more about the essential Sylvester/Silvester Anfang (II)? I bought the new one on a whim and now almost immediately i want more.

― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:15 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

i did find this, and it is highly recommended by me if you like a driving kind of dark rockabilly vibe with your clangy psychedelic guitar noises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3x2VRG92c

re: orcutt
mb stronger rhythm wld give him more space to move around in. as it is he falls into these phrases, speeding up v fast then slowing down, it's like he's staggering, swaying, he totally sounds like a blind-drunk virtuoso - esp mumbling to himself - v immediate but not v mindful. also the first record at least, is mad lofi.

Yeah, that record is lo-fi, I guess I just don't associate that term with folks doing solo guitar improvisations (not that it matters, lo fidelity is lo fidelity). Don't really wanna parse his playing too much, as I have never heard him talk about it or anything. Seems like he is doing what he wants, which is mindful to me, but sure, he falls into phrases and lurches around then pauses. Just seems intentionally limited, not like he is lacking stronger rhythm phrasing etc. But, 5 more records of that kinda thing may not really pan out, I can see that. Really that "Star Spangled Banner" above shows a pretty good combo of his signature style with some adherence to midnfulness (to me at least). Good direction for him.

La Lechera, that Sylvester Anfang II song is cool, would have sounded great at a barbecue yesterday. Good music to melt in the heat to. Don't know anything about them, but may have to investigate. Thanks.

he played a couple weeks back with a drummer at a warehouse show i was at, however, it being a warehouse show, it started about 2 hours later than advertised, and i had to work the next day, so i left before he played. but based on this discussion, i wish i had stayed, so i could report on how that worked out vis a vis his style.

Apparently SAII have two albums out this year? The one I bought is much much slower/hynotic in its grooviness, recommended if you like your raga with an element of space noise.

Sylvester Anfang II are definitely someone I want to check out. Emil.y was raving about them on another thread the other day...

Yes, they are emil.y approved, I know that to be true!

is the new ty segall psych/freak or was that the white fence vibe

how's the new blooz contrrol

I'm hoping the new Blues Control is better than the samples I've heard. Too much cheesy keyboard way out front.

not all the tracks have that but it's the most prominent change in their sound

it'll prolly bug quite a few ppl but I get the impression they're fairly cool with that

hmmm... I didn't care for the promo track at all and I'm a pretty big fan. bummer.

i thought the laraaji thing was tight

:(

Hey who wants to do a quick blues Control s/d or rundown itt? I want to get into them and I think I'm gonna try Puff but I don't quite know what to expect. Any recommendations?

new Alexander Tucker, Third Mouth, on Thrill Jockey, blowing me away right now. Keep flipping it over and over. Fourth listen today. Gamechanger, methinks!

need to check that guy out, where to start? into the new luke younger / helm thing, good for creeping yourself out at 2am

oh i love him!

dorwytch is really good and there's lots of his stuff on spotify
esp recommended if you like wyatty singing

old fog is good too

creepy and enjoyable listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOv74VaFReI

White Manna album is excellent, kinda reminds me the Original Sins or someone

Crackle Box, start with the new one, but all of his albums are excellent. This new one has some heavy Depeche Mode vibes...in a good way. Really, really great album.

thought of this thread http://www.facebook.com/notes/bill-orcutt/chris-corsano-bill-orcutt-east-coast-us-tour-dates/397182903664099

Wasn't sure whether to drop this in the rolling noise thread or this one, but this thread seems to get more traffic. You can find the discography of blackened noise/drone horrors Locrian for "pay what you want" download at bandcamp now: http://locrian.bandcamp.com/album/the-crystal-world

Hey who wants to do a quick blues Control s/d or rundown itt? I want to get into them and I think I'm gonna try Puff but I don't quite know what to expect. Any recommendations?

^^ 'puff' it's amazing - prob my favourite and definitely a good starting point. then you might go for 'local flavor' and from then on dig deeper with the self-titled and 'a full tank', maybe. the split with heavy winged is also good, iirc. collaboration with laraaji from last year was algo interesting, even if it veers a little bit closer to the new-agey vibes of the latter.

btw, any one heard 'valley tangents'?

Rather.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/valley-tangents-mw0002364694

Thanks! :D

saw the dreebs the other night, they're like 10 shimmering seconds of an SY noise break on loop. wasn't sure whether they should go here or rolling punk or rolling noise. the records and youtubes don't do justice to their live show which is a soakbath of ecstatic sound. their videos are kind of lol williamsburg, but if you get a chance to see 'em live you should.

new Alexander Tucker, Third Mouth, on Thrill Jockey, blowing me away right now. Keep flipping it over and over. Fourth listen today. Gamechanger, methinks!

Nice! There hasn't been a lot of fanfare for such a good album, or at least I haven't noticed any until this thread.

i love it! i listened to it most recently as i was driving through an extremely lush green rural area and it was heavenly.

yeah it's gorgeous

just ordered the new sylvester anfang. which one of theirs is meant to be the err... groovier one?

you mean of the most recent releases? which one did you get?
are there song titles or jam 1, jam 2, etc?

i have the former, WANT the latter!

this one http://www.discogs.com/Sylvester-Anfang-II-Perzische-Tapijten/master/424839

that's the one i got. it's great -- very groovy, but slow groovy

you a london person? they're playing oto with helm next week

nope, chicago :(

i got imported anfang

Just listened to Etherik by Sylvester Anfang and am psyched enough to want all his albums.

Dunno if this is quite the right place for the following enticing Forced Exposure update, but seems close enough:
OREN AMBARCHI: Sagittarian Domain CD (EMEGO 144CD) : OUT 08/28/2012 "For anyone who still associates Oren Ambarchi exclusively with the clipped, bass-heavy tones of solo electric guitar works such as Suspension (TO 033.18CD), this rhythmically churning one-man-band monster of an album-length piece might seem to come out of nowhere. However, listeners who have followed the breadth of his work for the last few years (solo and in projects with collaborators from Jim O'Rourke to Stephen O'Malley and Keith Rowe to Keiji Haino) will have noted how Ambarchi has allowed increasingly clear traces of his enthusiasms as a music listener (for classic rock, minimal techno and '70s fusion, among other areas) to surface in his performances and recordings, all the time filtering them through his signature long-form structures and psychoacoustic sonics. Recorded in a single inspired studio session, Sagittarian Domain displaces Ambarchi's trademark guitar sound from the center of the mix, its presence felt only as an occasional ghostly, reverberated shimmer. Endlessly pulsating guitar and bass lines sit alongside electronic percussion and thundering motorik drumming (familiar from his work with Keiji Haino) at the core of the piece, locking into a voodoo groove, like Faust covering a '70s cop show theme. The work is founded on hypnotic almost-repetition, the accents of the drum hits and interlocking bass and guitar lines shifting almost imperceptibly back and forwards over the beat as they undergo gradual transformations of timbre. Cut-up and phase-shifted strings enter around the half-way mark like an abstracted memory of the Eastern-tinged fusion of the Mahavishnu Orchestra's classic Visions of the Emerald Beyond, before returning for an extended, stark yet affecting come-down coda, equal parts Gavin Bryars and Purple Rain. While Sagittarian Domain contains traces of a diversity of influences, it mines all of them to uncover something that is clearly an extension of Ambarchi's own investigations up to this point, exhibiting the same care for micro-detail and surrender to the physicality of sound that are present in all of his work, extending them in new ways to repetition, pulse and rhythm." --Francis Plagne; Vinyl cut by Rashad Becker at Dubplates & Mastering, Berlin, June 2012.
http://www.orenambarchi.com/

Samples sound pretty cool, though the drum sound is shitty.

Whoa, that's very exciting.

This might be a good release show w guests at least. More on Northern Spy site:

This September 2012 New York City band Zs celebrates 10 years of being a band with the release of SCORE - The complete sextet works from 2002-2007. Zs has been described with a dizzying array of musical vocabularies, and has performed alongside an equally dizzying complement of colleagues and collaborators ranging from Throbbing Gristle's Genesis P. Orridge, to Roscoe Mitchell, to Christian Wolf, not to mention hundreds of comrades from the Brooklyn DIY scene, that has been home to Zs' myriad incarnations and musical and artistic tangents. Belonging nowhere and everywhere, Zs has absorbed the editorial space of Howard Stern and Alex Ross alike. In 10 years of activity, the band has changed in countless ways without ever changing a fierce commitment to inscrutable aesthetics and execution crafted to provoke reflection and challenge assumption in the consumption of music.

The 4 disc box-set hits stores on 9/11 and pulls together all of the out of print works from the band's first 5 years of existence along with a disc of never released material. There are over four and half hours of music represented, a 20-page booklet, and four CDs in printed sleeves, all housed in a beautiful 55pt box featuring original artwork by art/design team Fredericks & Mae.

To celebrate a hugely productive decade, the band is celebrating, surrounded by band members old and new, with an epic Ten-Year Anniversary & Box Set Record Release Show Wednesday August 29th at 285 Kent in Brooklyn NY. Featured will be Diamond Terrifier (featuring Sam Hillmer of Zs), Hubble (featuring former Zs member Ben Greenberg), Extra Life (featuring former Zs member Charlie Looker), Wet Ink Ensemble (featuring former Zs members Alex Mincek & Ian Antonio)and the Mick Barr + Marc Edwards Duo.

To further the ever evolving nature of the group, Zs will debut new material and a new line-up at the 8/29 show. Guitarist/composer Patrick Higgins (Bachanalia, ex-Animal) and drummer Greg Fox (Guardian Alien, ex-Liturgy) have joined founding member Sam Hillmer to launch Zs into their second decade. They’ve been rehearsing in secret for months and this show is not to be missed.

hey this friday at my store. come hang out with me.

Jason Lescalleet/Greg Kelley Duo + Matt Krefting

Friday, August 17 at 8:00 PM

Location: John Doe, Jr. Used Books and Records
269 Main St., Greenfield MA

What's their music like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n738jbTd78

no where else to put it, but i just have to say that i am on a heavy heavy Richard Skelton kick, and could really listen to this music forever.

Just got the Cosmic Dead s/t cd and have been wondering if the track Black Rabbit on there has anything to do with the Skullflower track of the same title from IIIrd GAtekeeper. I think it sounds like a similar riff but Cosmic Dead's treatment is pretty different taking it on a trip for 18 minutes whereas Skullflower seem to be playing for maximum weight over 4+ minutes.

Thanks for reminding me that it is time to pull out IIIrd Gatekeeper!

Not sure what thread it fits with but the Gala Drop & Ben Chasny collab is pretty cool.

^^ it's cool, but I still find the first gala drop record the best thing they've done so far. dunno, "broda" - the track - seems kinda aimless, imho.

they've been having some chill shows up the street in new salem. enter the chill zone.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7fc6w3GxX1rtx964o1_1280.jpg

if you are into that sort of thing. and are within walking distance.

Looks like a good time

200 Years is Ben Chasny. Yeah looks like fun.

i went and saw 200 years at feeding tube a while back. probably mentioned it here. but it was toooooo late (they didn't get started until like one in the morning!!) and i was tooooooo drunk and they were so quiet. pretty though. just needed a queen size bed to crash on when they played. him + majik markers woman.

see if i had been on acid everything would have been fine!

bill orcutt and chris corsano are playing flywheel on sept. 1 and i'm interested in seeing that. maybe they will just cover harry pussy songs.

also really hope i can make it to the arthur brooks ensemble V show at the flywheel. featuring one of my fave ilxors on percussion. arthur brooks a trumpeter who played with bill dixon and all those 70's outcats. i had a great 70's album of his that i dug a bunch but i sold it to help feed my children. otherwise i would have had him sign it!

jason lescalleet and greg kelley were great last night at the store. if you get a chance check out jason's new electronic reimagining/reworking of SAF by big black. its great.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7047/6986466502_36859ae9a5.jpg

cool--btw who's the percussionist ilxor?

tarfumes the escape goat. he's amazing. i've seen him do rhys chatham with a guitar army, play with a small group, and play solo at my store and he is always great.

and he puts out awesome solo CDs that are perfect for this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdBEUUxlR4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvw9sMg0Z0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcFt__NpuJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAF25L8NS28

Chris Forsyth has a new album out, Kenzo Deluxe and it is very nice.

Chris Forsyth and Koen Holtkamp are playing the same night as Glenn Jones in my little town. As it is a small town I am going to try to force these two events to happen at different times so that I can make both of them, but gonna be really pissed if I can't see both.

Chris Corsano plays solo 5 nights later, best run my town has had in a long time.

scot, did you go see p.g. six? a p.g. six solo show is not to be missed imo.

Hey Grandavis, just count your blessings you don't live in Huddersfield. The biggest small town in England and Chris Forsyth will never play here!

"Chris Forsyth and Koen Holtkamp are playing the same night as Glenn Jones in my little town"

I hope that means they have been working together again cos Early Astral was great.

They are playing together, not solo, but whether they are recording or not I don't know. I will tell them that Damo Suzuki's Parrot requests another album. I will also tell them that at least one person in Huddersfield will be at their show if they choose to head over.

Just for you Damo, here is Chris Forsyth doing the Listed feature in Dusted Magazine from last week, if you haven't seen it already. Pretty cool, all bootletg edition! Tylerw should check it, though he has probably heard all of these already.

Thanks Grandavis. It does seem a very conventionally 'rock' type list, for someone like him. I expected to see some Steve Reich or something in there.

I think he just took an angle on it without thinking too much about it. Most bootlegs are rock oriented, for better or worse, so I think he just ran with it. I am sure he digs Steve Reich, but there are lots of other Listed features where folks go down that road. Or maybe he just really digs the rock!

Ah shit! I wasn't paying attention, this was about bootlegs.

can't remember if Gnaw Their Tongues ever got talked about in these rolling threads but the dude has a new (not brand new, there's some stuff on bandcamp but it's all from last year and nowhere near this good) project called SEIROM which spells Mories backwards which is his name

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-LeofWDqJs

^this is off the album that Aurora Borealis are putting out, there's better stuff on it but not online afaik. it's way more accessible than anything by GTT... there's a fair bit of Campbell Kneale-y feedback but lots more Tim Hecker/Fennesz/MBV vibes. can't get enough of it atm

Hahah will need to investigate that for sure.

Some sad news: just heard that David Mackinnon of the Lost Domain has passed on.

seriously, if you are within reach of any of these places, go see ilx's own tarfumes do his thing. he's a mesmermagician.

Saturday, October 6, 2012 8:00pm
solo, plus duos and trios with id m theftable and Killick
Strange Maine
578 Congress St., Portland, ME

Sunday, October 7, 2012 8:00pm
119 Gallery
119 Chelmsford St., Lowell, MA

Tuesday, October 9, 2012 8:00pm
The Vault
702 Main St., Buffalo, NY

Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:00pm
Robinwood Concert House
2564 Robinwood Ave., Toledo, OH

Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:00pm
Battery Cage
1505 Watervliet Ave., Dayton, OH

Friday, October 12, 2012 8:00pm
Mexicains Sans Frontieres
120 Division St., #226, Grand Rapids, MI

Primordial Undermind at Incubate the other day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RydF_a8JgKM

oooh October 12 in Grand Rapids...Im not really in any kind of position to be driving anywhere but that is tempting

This thread has been too quiet, so going to post this link to the Sarin Smoke album (care of the Quietus), which is Pete Swanson (D. Yellow Swans, other shit) and Tom Carter. Just two guitars taking it pretty far out, totally great. They tackle various moves/approaches but it is pretty aggressive/noisy, not a lazy or groovy sound. Really hitting the spot, plus all proceeds go towards to T. Carter recovery fund (if you but the physical copy of course).

May as well post this here too! Kid just FBed this link to the new Oneida record (care of East Village Radio). Sounding really droney and ominous right now, definitely fitting this thread. Pysched to see where it goes.

Eternal Tapestry's World Out Of Time comes out tomorrow on Thrill Jockey. Anyone heard 'em? Portland based members of Jackie-O Motherfucker and Plankton Wat explore their love of Neu! and Sonny Sharrock. They're prolific, having released Dawn in 2 Dimensions earlier this year, Beyond the 4th Door last year, and collaborated with Sun Araw on Night Gallery last year, and have three other albums.

Yeah, I like those dudes and pre-ordered the new one from Thrill Jockey (along with the Golden Void). Dawn in 2 Dimensions was great, as was the Plankton Wat disc from earlier this year, really anxious to hear it. Also super anxious for new Oneida.

There's a used copy of World Out Of Time right now at Reckless WP. There was also one of Golden Void but I snagged it! I forgot the Oneida is out tomorrow - I have not been able to find any preview of it.

I heard it in my local shop. It's pretty gnarly. They are getting more abstract and noisy. It's not as minimal as Absolute II, but it's no more uh tuneful. I didn't buy it cuz I'm just not in the mood for that right now, I'm anxious enough as it is.

I'm glad to hear they are getting more abstract and noisy, I was midly disappointed by Absolute II.

Man, how long has it taken you guys to get packages from Thrill Jockey? My Eternal Tapestry and Golden Void package shipped ten days ago, nothing yet. Seems weird.

do you ever get stuff you order? Or do you have the mailman with the coolest record collection?

I'm starting to think so, heh. I don't know, I've suddenly hit a really bad stretch of not getting stuff I've ordered online. Which, y'know, isn't a good sign since this will be the only way to order records in the near future.

Unfortunately, Thrill Jockey is one of the few places I regularly order from that doesn't give you a tracking option.

best of luck man. That's incredibly annoying.

Thanks. Yeah, super annoying. The weird thing this time is that I had this latest package sent to work instead, trying to suss out if it was a problem with my mail delivery at home.

Dawn in 2 Dimensions is great! Will keep my eye out for them at the store!!

I saw Eternal Tapestry a little over a year ago in Portland and they were tremendous. I have a Plankton Wat record or two, an Edibles record and the Sun Araw collab, but need to catch up on ET itself.

They ended and Dewey (I think) leans into the mic and says, "Thanks, we're Eternal Tapestry. We don't have any records or T-shirts for sale."

the golden void vocalist is kind of not charismatic.

Man, fuck either a USPS or Thrill Jockey at this point. Still haven't gotten my package from them. The dude who has been emailing me from their order department has been super responsive, which I appreciate, but they are basically just shrugging their shoulders. Just annoying because I paid extra for the "insured" media mail, but so far it seems like that isn't covering anything.

Mostly I'm just pissed that I now have to repurchase both the Eternal Tapestry and Golden Void records, but even more that I now have to miss out on the limited edition CD-R that was supposed to come up with my order.

I'm swearing off mail order records after this fiasco and, tbrr, completely considering giving up on record collecting at all. I mean, shops are shutting down right and left so mail order direct from the labels is probably soon to be the only option. And if that isn't even dependale, than why the fuck collect?

wow this is really disheartening man, I hope your luck changes soon jvc :(

I heard the new Oneida record today and its really incredible. It reminded me of Alice Coltrane.

I had drunk lots of gin, though, so my opinion may not count. A++

haha, sounds good. still need to check that one out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3IC5GOnyL8

enjoying this

this is super good
http://label.experimedia.net/024/

...productively using sounds which previously would have been left to lie dormant on the cutting room floor. He began working with a palette comprised of in-the-red, bit-crushed digitalia, setting to work kneading these stubborn blocks of harsh sound into a sequence of five pieces which, despite their considerable barbs, retain the fluidity and pathos of the ambient tradition from which they were inspired...Indeed, Superstorms is at once organic and robotic, forceful and calm, coherent and unpredictable. In short, it is a meshing of oppositions- binaries smashed together and expertly sculpted into truly powerful sonic miasma.

That Superstorms shit is cool, will need to explore more but thanks for that link. The tracks I listened to were really interesting (for ambient stuff).

Just stumbled across this Mick Flower Band record on the Three Lobed page, and it is great so far! I love Mick Flower, and here it is he and Jon Moloney just rocking (sounds like a power trio at times but it is just the two of them, with Flower looping some stuff).

http://threelobed.bandcamp.com/album/the-michael-flower-band

Seems like they are just jamming, but they are two dudes that are good at jamming. Keeping my time at work till the holidays feeling joyous and not a downer.

nice! did not know about that record. sounds very good about two minutes in.

Wow, second track (I listened before but was distracted with some work shit) is great, if you like totally righteous Mick Flower guitar shredding. Guess the last three are live and have added folks (Bridget Hayden from Vibracathedral Orchestra and someone else).

yeahhh, this is killer. thank you.

this has been blowing my mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVrsDOet_sQ

Mugstar is amazing.

You guys know that Gabe Soloman from Yellow Swans put out a new album, right?

The new United Bible Studies album ("I Am Providence") is amazing... just got it in the mail. Recorded on the 2008 tour that I saw, half of it live at Lovecraft's grave and half at a cloud in Providence RI. Mostly a vocal showcase, the club tracks are totally acapella. Gorgeous.

good review here:

http://www.eveningoflight.nl/2012/12/16/review-united-bible-studies-i-am-providence-2012/

Quick head's up. The Roswell Incident's HIGH ORBITAL released in full yesterday: http://theroswellincident.bandcamp.com/album/high-orbital

There had been a single put up back in April, but I got around to the rest of the works last night.

Super-minimal, but Ned had some nice things to say about it. I suspect he'll be looking for a check in the mail...

You owe him 10% of all the free downloads.

Ten percent of nothing with a fifteen percent commission and... Carry the seven since it's a Tuesday...

Right. Precisely seventeen cents.

This is why I'm not a good businessman.