Rolling Dancehall & Reggae 2012

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Great year-end rundown beginning on Soundclash.

rob, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

nice

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

This mix, linked to in that piece, looks pretty great/kinda overwhelming: http://www.mixcloud.com/Style_and_Swagger/style-swagger-nts-181211-best-of-2011/

rob, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

This lacks the lyrical verve that made "Shame On You" so great, but I quite like how liquid this sounds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WvrrK5c1G0

rob, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks! I'll post Part 2 here (trying to get it finished for tomorrow).

cybele, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:20 (twelve years ago) link

please do! I thought the section on differing attitudes in US, UK, and JA was particularly interesting. Strange to hear that that thoroughly unobjectionable NPR list was controversial. I'm american, and I think these days I'm fairly evenly split between sing-songy and Ward-21 stuff, though I particularly like when Ward 21 collaborate with women singers (Cherine, Natalie Storm, Timnberlee).

rob, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Here's Part 2: http://soundclash.wordpress.com/2012/01/06/2011-in-reggae-and-dancehall-part-2/
Would love any thoughts and comments!

cybele, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmEEKpC_Gcs
i guess this is considered "soca," a genre i know nothing about. dancehall or not, it's an entertaining pop song

great piece cybele, i found the bit about kartel in the media particularly interesting.

chilli, Sunday, 8 January 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link

thanks, cybele!

here are Large Up's top 10 riddims of the year: http://largeup.okayplayer.com/2012/01/10/toppa-top-10-the-top-dancehall-riddims-of-2011/

they're other eoy round-ups were kind of odd. I like that Hollie Cook album as a nice throwback, but album of the year is def a conservative choice.

rob, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

What are people's thoughts on that whole Prince Fatty production stuff?i've been sent a lot of it last year incl the Hollie Cook, and I can't work out whether I enjoy it or think it's a bit naff.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

I've only head the Cook album, which I thought was mostly pretty nice. It sounds a bit like someone taking the New Age Steppers' cover of "Fade Away" (and only that one song) as a sonic template, but I wouldn't want to hear much more in that vein and definitely wouldn't care about it without singing. At any rate, it's a cul-de-sac and calling it the best thing to happen in reggae this year is nagl.

rob, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link

listened to this^ again after posting and it's really let down by some weak drumming. I'm going to repost this Busy Signal track I posted in the sandbox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8XTJIkq6Ns

rob, Friday, 13 January 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

what do you all think of Off the Bench?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeNxUGqEuQ4&feature=related

had high hopes for Popcaan, but I think Beenie Man takes it.

rob, Friday, 13 January 2012 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

actually Popcaan does rather well and I enjoyed most of that whole mix.

I-Octane and Chan Dizzy: Kingdom Come (prod. by Russian)

I don't think I-Octane was mentioned in last year's thread at all, but "Puff It" was great

rob, Friday, 13 January 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f7DPvMW96c

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

^^btw, this is r|t|c-baiting "heatwave fodder" but "Murder" >>>> "Kisses" no?

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

Just listened to this remix and then the original Murder. The original didn't blow my mind, but the First Degree Remix is ace.

Giving 'Kisses' a spin for the first time now, and I'm not sure how I'd rank them. This is a totally different vibe. Much lighter. Much more in the vein of Toi's "You'll Be Mine" or something like that.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link

But I know nothing about any of this stuff and don't know "heatwave fodder" from anything else. /dilettante

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 January 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, the Murder remix is lots of fun. I hadn't listened to Kisses since last spring, so I tried it after Murder and it sounded too fluffy. But you're right: it's a different vibe and would sound great again in a warmer, sunnier time like "You'll Be Mine" did too.

don't worry about that Heatwave comment--I was just referring to an old, brief dispute between rtc and lex about Kisses that came up when I searched to see if anyone had posted this track before. I like some stuff the Heatwave do. This round-up is where I heard Murder and it's mostly worth checking out to get a particular angle on dancehall in the UK.

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

I just meant - who are The Heatwave?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.theheatwave.co.uk/

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

To book The Heatwave for your rave, party, festival or wedding email t✧✧@elasticarti✧✧✧.n✧✧

rob, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

RIP Winston Riley.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/entertainment/Winston-Riley-is-dead

After he got shot I kept wondering if he'd recovered or not. Sad news.

rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

RIP. That sucks.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 20 January 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

ty to dayo (i think) for posting this on tumblr:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyX_vUfe9jk

rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

oh man weird timing. i came on this thread half an hour ago to show my friend tippa lee one of the videos on here, and we saw that winston riley post. that really fucked tippa up. he had to call his friend osbert maddo to tell him. (although apparently maddo and riley had bad blood over money. riley kinda known for not paying people.)

ALSO, the other weird thing is we had been listening to a great don evans record on techniques that riley had made when i got on this thread.

but, yeah, anyway, r.i.p. winston riley. i've been listening to a ton of techniques stuff the last couple of months.

scott seward, Friday, 20 January 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link

i've been listening to his stuff all day too.

what a shit day: I just saw Errol Scorcher died too. And I didn't mention it here, but was sad to hear about King Stitt passing on a little while ago.

rob, Friday, 20 January 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

etc mentioned this track on the ILM eoy voting thread and I can't believe i missed this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UztnamgeJw

rob, Saturday, 21 January 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cO67D3T8-w
totally stolen from robbo ranx's latest show but this is sick -- new kartel-style deejaying with nice production to boot. i'm a sucker for this kind of stuff, will be keeping an eye on this guy

chilli, Saturday, 21 January 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

^^^this is far out

Aesop Rizzle (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

nice! love that outro

rob, Saturday, 21 January 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

still catching up on 2011 tracks. Di Genius & Chino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WBd1nIaFT4

rob, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

nice Melanie Fiona "4 AM" remix with Sean Paul: http://largeup.okayplayer.com/2012/01/27/dutty-duet-melanie-fiona-x-sean-paul-4am-remix/

always liked her "Sad Songs" on Janet Kay's "Silly Games" rhythm too.

rob, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link

Soca crop's looking a little thin this year but the new Shurwayne's fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_WT5B2eGdI&feature=related

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

xp, yeah reggae-Fiona is actually my favorite mode for her. I'd love if she did a whole album in a one-drop style, "Like I Love You" from last year was incredible.

anyhow, Ward 21's Monkey Barrel riddim is kind of next level:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKTTwcXDexg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94kFNf7emE0

and Borrow Clothes riddim is a nice throwback:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfQ-CN2PP1g

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYwoehWj7_M

DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link

Monkey Barrel is crazy--Ward 21 are really pushing into some bizarre and intriguing territory. I hadn't heard that Timberlee, but I think that's my favorite version so far.

will listen to the others after I finish this typically stomping Aidonia track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLeRVwfeL8A&feature=related

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Borrow Clothes is nice, also liked Suku's "Now" on that rhythm, speaking of Ward 21.

what do you all think of Popcaan's new one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcC3-VMH_M&feature=related

It's growing on me.

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3qhoP9_X8&feature=related

Bacchanalist's growing on me. Strong contender for Road March, i'd think.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

lot of great youtubes posted lately! monkey barrel is really cool. like the popcaan but slightly prefer the masicka on the same riddim, some good double-time singing in the verses iirc.

been enjoying the shurwayne and antilles riddim tracks too. soca's a bit harder to find but the tracks i've heard are really catchy

chilli, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

new party shot video out, a little too blatantly misogynist even for a music video but visuals are pretty rare for dancehall so w/e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZnDJCi24s

chilli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

liking a lot of stuff on Priceless Signature:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPnuAMoC1g

Definitely check out Lady Saw and Lisa Hyper's tracks too if you haven't heard them already (riddim originally came out in November, but I think ^this is new)

rob, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ztGwRQbw4

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Lengthy article on Buju Banton's arrest and incarceration: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/content/printVersion/3191909/. I was aware there were doubts about this case, but the article lays out a convincing case he's completely innocent.

rob, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lot of great singles these days, but aidonia's "lala-land" is just fantastic. such a cool strained flow on that track

chilli, Thursday, 1 March 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

name names! I don't know that I've heard anything in 2012 yet that I've been blown away by, though here are some recent songs that I've dug:
Agent Sasco/Assassin "Hot": http://youtu.be/Z9NbzypomEY
Konshens "Gun Shot a Fire": http://youtu.be/kgiukYNLZnY

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

^^ could you point some of these? and maybe some riddims?

really gotta catch up with this thread. the lack of attention makes me feel like 2012 hasn´t started for dancehall yet...(and surely i'm missing a lot)

rusty_allen, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Konshens - Bun Satan

Tim F, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

i wasn't totally sold on that^ at first, but holy crap does it build up in the last minute

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

riva stone riddim is my fave so far this year

j'ouvert riddim (khago - peppery) and hot chocolate riddim (tifa - wipe mi up) are awesome as well

2012 has been pretty good so far! I think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in dancehall right now, working on something about that actually

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 2 March 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

ok, that Tifa is really nice! realizing I was underrating the year because I hadn't really paid much attention for the past few weeks...

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

add welding to that jouvert riddim list. other riddims i'm loving so far this year are riva stone and worldwide. that choral-sounding girl in riva stone is such a great touch

chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh and this is an awesome dancehall/country track! better than it sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNT6WhVtLyY

chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

this mix from The Large is great

resisting the urge to post a bunch of individual tracks from that (though lots will be familiar if you've been following this thread). do check out Schlachthofbronx & Warrior Queen's filthy Dickie Riddim (http://youtu.be/6yCdwY6nJZo) and Cham & O's only slightly less sleazy Tun Up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1H-Emnw-A

rob, Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

^^ produced by dave kelly...first riddim since 'overdrive' perhaps? does anyone know the name? (it's the same as 'hot', posted above)

also enjoying the hipnotic grittyness of the 'hot water riddim' at the moment.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

I really LOVE the instrumental/version of the hot water riddim but none of the songs on it are really grabbing me. macka diamond's "nah fail" is prob the best one, or liquid's "dah wine deh"

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

^^ that's what i'm feeling too. macka diamond is prob my fav, so far. but what i really wanted was a konshens version...

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

xp
I *think* it's called Ice Cream: http://youtu.be/1wmBvxoDrNY.

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

^not so sure about that tbh, but you are both otm about Hot Water

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah hot water is fantastic but i'm actually leaning towards sizzla's version despite the terrible lyrical content. none of the other performers capture the angry spirit of the riddim i guess. ice cream's good too, but older and def. a different riddim. iirc it was produced by swedish producer adde instrumentals, the same guy behind the huge "summer time" riddim

chilli, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

when I looked up hot water on youtube, I was like "oh sizzla is on this, I bet this one is the best" and then that condemnation of same-sex marriage happened. I can sometimes overlook or, even more likely, miss (i had forgotten what "fish" meant when I posted that Bounty Killer track upthread) homophobic stuff in dancehall, but I couldn't get past that opening declaration. I agree about the anger though, would like to hear Aidonia on that one.

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

that Dave Kelly riddim is officially called Tun Up Tun Up btw

came around to quite like Zj Liquid and Wayne Wonder on Hot Water

rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

also, Konshens is having the year I thought Popcaan was going to have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mdf_B0unM8

rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/NOAS5.png
lol this pic (also im somewhat amused that i got the imgur URL NOAS5.png)

chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

more on topic the taranchyla song on hot water is interesting, some crazy autotune alien vocals on there

chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKyRyffEEmo

second verse of this is pretty mind-blowing. lot of good tracks on this riddim (octane, busy, anthony b etc.)

chilli, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link

good stuff! there seems to be a bonanza of these minimalist riddims this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUmOYum3tIQ

rob, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

xp : never really cared that much for capleton, tbh (dunno why...prob too histrionic?), but yeah 'the return' is great.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

the #TNS riddim is incredible, so many great voicings on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Lo0OeXXqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRwk8XQ5ko

also feeling the Wet Up riddim a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHKfDsWqFY

also, not to be all self-promoting and stuff but i wrote this and would like you guys' opinions - http://www.theclustermag.com/blog/2012/03/life-after-vybz/

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

still reading, but what riddim comes on after Hot Water in the mix?

rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Disorda riddim

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

ty, I like that a lot and had missed it

really nice piece and pretty thoroughly otm throughout. I don't think Tomahawk Technique was ever mentioned here, but ugh is it bad. Still waiting for Popcaan to do something as great this year as last--not really feeling that TNS track, but I think I just don't really love the riddim--but I didn't realize he was so young. Definitely agree that Lady Saw is having a shockingly great run right now. And yeah, everyone is right about Riva Stone.

rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

really digging this

konshens - so mi tan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21AgmUWVPLo

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's excellent. I've lost count of solid Konshens tracks this year, dude is spoiling us and I never even bothered listening to his album. though I guess that riddim is from 2010 according to a (less good) Agent Sasco youtube I found.

rob, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Great article brainwasher!

Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

also i f/ with all of these tunes.

Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

the Love Bug riddim is a nice bit of summery warmth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-r0GxYZl_U

rob, Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

awesome to see Cluster publishing all these ilxors writing about dancehall. Erin Macleod on sound clashes: http://theclustermag.com/blog/2012/04/sound-clash-ressurection/.

rob, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ko-MR8MsM&fmt=18

gorgeous

uberweiss, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

I-Octane making a grab for populist summer anthem status here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1uEn7bmpE&feature=relmfu

xpost, always excited to check out Toi

rob, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

Toi's gentle breeze voice is the perfect vehicle for a love=being stoned metaphor isn't it?

rob, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

i'd love to have some of the dancehall cru join us for dancehall monday on turntable.fm: Link

to contribute, new track from demarco, apparently a popcaan diss (lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifw_UrwazXU

chilli, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

can't really do stuff like turntable.fm at work unfortunately. this thread bump reminds me I've been meaning to ask what everyone thinks of Potential Kidd's A Yuh So Nice which the internet tells me is very big in JA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8GuRP8p28

rob, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

i couldn't stand it at first, but that potential kidd is really good! a really different sound then most of the genre these days as well. though the part where he says he'd rather be a rapist than gay is somewhat offputting.

chilli, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

:/ christ, I didn't even notice that. otoh, i have to agree that it's initially very grating, which is probably why I didn't parse the lyrics

been thinking about bumping this thread just to double down on the 3 posts prior to potential kidd. the LoveBug riddim might be my favorite so far this year, at least in the sense of enjoying version after version. Washroom have smartly kept most of them at around the 2:00 mark, so it pretty much demands full-riddim mix treatment. The Toi is wonderful and the I-Octane is pleasantly reminiscent of Overproof from last year.

rob, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

Love that Toi track!

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link

"Coolie Gal" is several kinds of dubious, but it's sweet to hear Popcaan in such good form:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwJZf9aJ2Wc

rob, Sunday, 6 May 2012 21:16 (eleven years ago) link

This new Loudspeaker riddim from Mixpak has promise. Predictably excited to hear the Natalie Storm, but here's Machel Montano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfWPPbDpODg

rob, Saturday, 19 May 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

Konshens "Mad Mi"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLmsMAA23nw

wau

rob, Thursday, 31 May 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

lol not sure why I was so waued by that^

playing catch up on June's releases and this Tuff Head riddim is a standout:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imYTOFc1cTQ&feature=relmfu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LZOaMckOGI&feature=relmfu

rob, Sunday, 17 June 2012 00:03 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tr1tmzAths&feature=related

the mixtape pictured in that video is really good. It's not the most artfully mixed thing you'll ever hear though

rob, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbI-z6GDGQ&feature=relmfu

rob, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/jamaican-dj-fugitive-on-drug-charges-for-10-years-pleads-guilty-to-skipping-us-trial/2012/07/19/gJQARUJ0vW_story.html

Glendale Goshia Gordon, who performs under the name Busy Signal, could face between 12 to 18 months in prison and a fine of $3,000 to $30,000, under sentencing guideline recommendations.

...

Gordon, 33, was charged in February 2002 with two counts related to cocaine trafficking, which carried a sentence of at least 15 years in prison. He fled the U.S. before his trial was to begin in Minnesota and a warrant was issued for his arrest. He has been a fugitive for the past decade.

“You knew you should appear, and you didn’t,” U.S. District Judge Donovan Frank said while asking Gordon a series of questions Thursday.

“Yes, your honor,” Gordon replied.

Gordon was detained by authorities in London in May and accused of traveling with false documents, including a passport that listed a different name. He returned to Kingston, Jamaica, and was arrested at the airport there.

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

weird that after he serves his sentence he has 45 days to return to Jamaica or face the original charges, no?

rob, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link

yes, weird, weird.

curmudgeon, Friday, 20 July 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

haven't been paying that much attention lately. hence...diggin' the 'tuff head' riddim posted upthread. dunno if they've been mentioned elsewhere, but i've also been quite enjoying the 'repja', 'overtime' and 'bassline' riddims - this last one is produced by genius.

anything i should really look up to?

rusty_allen, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Hnr_42-c8

on repeat this friday afternoon

bugler, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ absolutely massive and crushing

smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Saturday, 4 August 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

that is incredible

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 5 August 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

This sounds slightly more amazing played pitched up the way Robbo Ranx does it, but still:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvdGR4NgONM&feature=relmfu

Tim F, Monday, 6 August 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link

Popcaan is pretty nice on Summer Wave too, though not nearly as ebullient as Gaza Slim.

rob, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link

Is Chris Martin's "Na Na Na" getting much airplay Tim? I wasn't pleasantly surprised to hear it on the radio in Bern rather randomly a few weeks ago.

rob, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 02:52 (eleven years ago) link

this video should have been reserved for a Fatima al-Qadiri collaboration or something, but I found it a mesmerizing, awkward solution to Vybz being locked up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMsh8k2PIJE

rob, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 03:00 (eleven years ago) link

apologies for bombing the thread, but has ILM talked about Tommy Lee's unhinged style yet?

(warning: very NSFW video and hateful lyrics):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PAhZxRuq2c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB2Ttw7owLU&feature=related

rob, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 03:22 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^still not sure about Tommy Lee: silly & cartoonish or genuinely unsettling?

anyway, this Tifa track is great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTa9nb_JgGU

rob, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link

^^ love it. oddly, that 'poolside' riddim instinctively seems the kind of stuff suited for some kind of threatening/deep/male vocal which makes 'hold on' even better for working out of that - biased, imaginary and probably stupid from my part - context.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link

can't muster enough will to listen to the tommy lee tunes, tbh.

this sounded great yesterday, while working late at night :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bip06lFzLlo

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 02:09 (eleven years ago) link

i think you're spot on re the Tifa and the expected gender dynamics. more broadly, no one in dancehall sounds like they're having nearly as much fun as Tifa this year. That faux-dramatic opening--the deep breath especially--to "Ex Man" still makes me chuckle every time.

lol, I didn't exactly sell Tommy Lee did I? idk, the Psycho video is sort of a mesmerizing attempt at being genuinely antisocial in a way I don't think I've seen in JA recently.

and yeah, Dust is nice! Ward 21's new riddim, Bex, is pretty good too, though no one voicing really stood out to me. had high hopes for Deewun with either Timberlee or Tifa, since last year's "Gimme 60" with Natalie Storm was a personal favorite, but I need to revisit them, kind of blended when I checked it out the other day.

rob, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 03:14 (eleven years ago) link

another current favorite, Aidonia's "Militancy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqrpyR2t0Ks

rob, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

going to carnival this wkend for the first time! i'm excited

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 August 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

the first time??? it is the most fun

just sayin, Thursday, 23 August 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

in the Uk or elsewhere?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

in Notting Hill!

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 August 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link

do many ppl on ilx go?? i never see talk abt it

just sayin, Friday, 24 August 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link

i am going to be at the Good Times Bus tomorrow and along the parade route on Monday

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 August 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

Nasty love for me

just sayin, Saturday, 25 August 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

i just came back from both days at carnival and i'm like whoa

feel pummeled, essentially, but in a good way

norman jay was sick, crowd generally well behaved both days and some of the floats were outrageous. a few of them only had like 5 morose-looking guys nursing beers trailing behind, which was a little sad.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 August 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link

this could be a minute shorter, but I think it's the first thing I've heard from Masicka that suggested he has some range (haven't been paying strict attention tbf):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l79ZapGvhec&feature=related

rob, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link

^nice

cool production here from russian, that no diggity humming is endlessly catchy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH6YjyNjG9c

chilli, Saturday, 1 September 2012 05:52 (eleven years ago) link

^my favorite Vybz track this year

rob, Saturday, 1 September 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

My favourite Vybz tune this year is "Lip Gloss" but "Dynamite" is great.

Tim F, Saturday, 1 September 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

XD XD XD

is there a Fall Jams thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GRFlBCHLHQ&feature=related

rob, Saturday, 22 September 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

new video (which is terrible tbh but I like the song) from the soon to be free Busy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSRStNqbR8w&feature=BFa&list=UUu7Zk8EDuzM35hbS_Km7C-g

rob, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

Cham over these stripped bare Dave Kelly-ish riddims have been such a highlight this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZJdbr7-8Io&feature=related

rob, Friday, 28 September 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

any other Oregonians read this thread? LargeUp posted this video the other day that was filmed here (somewhere in central OR from the landscape):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCxLJhWO8wM&feature=player_embedded

rob, Saturday, 6 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

another great Russian production:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIHtx3qQfKw

rob, Saturday, 13 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link

This thread is such a browser killer, I think I'm going to stop embeds from here on out. If you haven't yet heard Lady Saw's "HEELS ON" go to youtube or spotify or whatever and do so immediately.

rob, Monday, 15 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

As someone who loves updates on here and listens to every youtube i say NOOOOOOOOOO

just use bookmarks man

a hoy hoy, Monday, 29 October 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

Can’t argue with that.

After being super quiet for a lot of the year, Mavado has suddenly put out two great tunes back to back. Not surprisingly these are both Di Genius productions.

Touch Down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un5AfeA3g4k

That's the clean version^, which I think I prefer. Here's the raw: http://youtu.be/zqi1itkhJc4.

Disrespect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB80acz0JPM

rob, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

this is rather nice isn't it?

I-Octane & Bounty Killer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGUVQXtZfgk

rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

and another excellent combination (Gappy Ranks & Busy). riddim really evolves on this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7RL4zgCeos

rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not always sold on Masicka's skills, but he manages to find himself on some of the more interesting productions out there, like this from Equiknoxx. The only downside is that they are frequently about a minute too long:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE6S2F7B6lU

rob, Monday, 19 November 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link

Tifa and Spice's "Why Yuh Mad" might be the best thing I've heard all year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdMEBSVj_0s

I want to check out other voicings on this riddim (Dog Bite), but I can't stop playing this.

rob, Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:07 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Konshens put out so much stuff this year I started overlooking his tunes at some point and probably missed some good tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLn78Xk_iag

"like a Burger King combo"

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

more Konshens tunes tunes tunes tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Nrc4JDBQQ

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.afropop.org/wp/6432/running-down-the-year-part-1/

Someone named Sax*n Baird at afropop worldwide lists some of his fave caribbean tunes for 2012:

Machel Montano – Go Down (Loudspeaker Riddim)

Popcaan – “When Mi Party” (Summer Wave Riddim

Vybz Kartel – ” R U Ready” Ft Stylysh (Buss Up Riddim)

Tnght Riddim – The Heatwave Refix Featuring Mr. Lexx & Nikisha

he also likes Montreal dj Poirier – Soca Road EP

curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

thanks curmudgeon--please post more lists if you find them. I haven't seen any yet. Last year I made a few friends a playlist of my favorite dancehall from the year, so I'll probably post that list here soon and nominate a bunch of it to the ILM poll. Would love to see anyone who reads this thread's lists too--top 5 or whatever.

That Montano track has shown up on at least one other list I saw. My girly taste means I like Natalie Storm ("Rock the Runway") on Loudspeaker and Gaza Slim ("Independent Ladies" raved about a bit upthread) on Summer Wave more.

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

"Kartel may be in jail awaiting trial, but that hasn’t stopped him from dropping a few singles."

lol

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

love this thread, rob (and indeed others who post regularly) - gave me one of my top five? top three? songs of the year - Psycho by Tommy Lee, also Vybz Kartel Lip Gloss, very highly placed in my year-end tunes.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

interesting to hear your love for Psycho! Tommy Lee really should have come up more itt--he seems like basically the biggest thing to happen in JA music this year, for better or worse. While horrorcore dancehall isn't a thing I would have thought I would enjoy, I have come to like Pyscho too, though after hitting a run of his tracks where he seemed to be trying to expand his repertoire unsuccessfully, I stopped paying attention. Until the other night when I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho." Also, dude gets credit for making some genuinely disturbing videos (as well as inspiring the video for "Why Yuh Mad").

rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Well I'm a sucker for supernatural vengeance, which, added to that incredible delivery, made it a song totally impossible to resist for me. 'Sparta send some cyanide and 'bout two drum a gunpowder' is a line that's been in my head loads this year - 'unhinged' was the word I think you used - good word for it. Will check out those other two. Haven't really been keeping up with... anything really, so was good to go through a load of recs on this thread this eve.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I love that "cyanide" line too: a weirdly refreshing change of pace from gunman lyrics.

There's probably a really good essay to write about how Lee's use of Jamaican/Caribbean folklore about the undead (duppies, Haitian zombies, demons, etc). If nothing else, the youtube comments for his videos are always interesting--I have no special knowledge of JA culture, but Lee does seem to be pressing some buttons in genuinely shocking ways, not unlike Vybz Kartel's skin-bleaching but easier to stomach from a US perspective.

rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

And he's got a new one out. Surprised to find myself really into the second half. Swerves from horrorcore to goth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip3IQ6cbduM

rob, Friday, 21 December 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

cheers rob. yeah i was thinking about Psycho - there's something about that attenuated bo diddley beat and the claustrophobia of a community populated with ghosts and duppy and zombies and general fear that makes it very atmospheric. didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it? Oh yeah, it's just got to the second half in that vid - that's great! Like you say, it makes a change from gun stuff - and with the supernatural so close it feels a bit more vulnerable, man diddling about with powers that will kill him for temporary gang supremacy/survival - like another favourite line from Psycho 'Mmm, duppy worst thing you can see, dem send duppy for me'.

And yes, continuation of the whole duppy/supernatural strand in reggae is interesting.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 December 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link

LargeUp's Top 10 tracks of the year (their album list is awful):
1. Konshens -- "Gal a Bubble"
2. Mavado -- "Cyaa Hold Me Again"
3/4. Cham -- "Tun Up"/"Lawless"
5. Popcaan -- "The System"
6. Potential Kidd -- "Yah Suh Nice"
7. RDX -- "Jump"
8. Konshens -- "So Mi Tan"
9. Tommy Lee -- "Psycho"
10. Bounty Killer & Cecile -- "Ride"

Honorable mentions:
Mr. Vegas -- "Bruk It Down" and "Party Tun Up"
Busy Signal -- “Kingston Town,” “Come Shock Out” and “Artiste”

http://largeup.okayplayer.com/2012/12/21/toppa-top-10-the-best-dancehall-singles-of-2012/

Great list, though definitely too male-dominated--I have 3 Tifa songs alone on my 2012 favorites playlist. I hadn't caught that Mavado/Di Genius tune (came out last December apparently), and I've been ignoring Busy's new roots album but that Kingston Town song is niiice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cHCDW60cIM

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho."

ha, those are actually the same song. I think I meant "Goat Head" though it's << "Uncle Demon/Shook" and "Psycho"

didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it?

I'm not aware of anyone mining the same territory as Tommy Lee. After listening to a bunch of his stuff over the past couple of days because of your posts, I'm hoping he's got good management that can steer him well. I almost never like hearing him on a riddim that has lots of other versions--he really benefits from tracks that are as chilly and warped as his lyrics. It could be comparable to the way Cham has made such a big impact this year by sticking to a very particular style of riddim, or, as more of a cautionary tale, how Mavado pretty much only sounded good working with Di Genius.

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

Buss a Blank also worth your time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qaml2SbnPI

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

new thread, all welcome: rolling dancehall & reggae 2013

rob, Friday, 4 January 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link


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