Alright, so 2011 is over. Looking forward, 2012 could end up being a great year. There are albums scheduled to drop from: Ciara, Monica, The-Dream, R. Kelly (Black Panties!), Brandy, Mariah Carey, Melanie Fiona, K. Michelle, Alicia Keys, Keyshia Cole, Ameriie, Tank, Algebra, Trey Songz, Mario, Ryan Leslie, Tamia, Tiffany Evans, Chris Brown, SWV, Mary J. Blige, Estelle, Maxwell, D'Angelo, and Cassie (this will happen).
Notable Debuts:
Jhene AikoDawn RichardElle VarnerFrank OceanLuke JamesTimothy BloomStacy BartheKalennaMindless BehaviorShanellEster Dean
I'm excited! What are you guys looking forward to? What did you think of 2011?
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
to start with, I'm really feeling this Teyana Taylor track (produced by Hit-Boy):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKWcMplz6KAclearly she's grown a lot as an artist since "Google Me" (which was dope imo)
also, don't remember if this was covered in the sandbox but BROOKE VALENTINE IS BACK:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PNzpAOzIOc
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
...Ameriie...Still can't get over how funny inserting an i in your name is going to get you out of perpetual flopdom
― danzig, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:04 (twelve years ago) link
dodgy brooke valentine screengrab
― uberweiss, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
haaaa
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
well, that brooke valentine song is ok but how is it, in any way, an "R&B" track? it sounds like an indie rock song with a good singer. i'm not trying to troll here - just confused.
― nonightsweats, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
i'm most looking forward to the Melanie Fiona album, although i'm also getting REALLY impatient for that Maxwell to drop, last one was so incredible and he was acting like the next couple albums were already pretty much done but it's going on 3 years now and no sign of the follow-up.
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
what did we think of dawn richard's first official single?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgaEfg0M9b0
it didn't blow me away immediately like the mixtape songs did, but i went back to it a lot over december.
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
she's on a terrible chris brown-led posse cut version of "marvins room" that's been charting and getting radio play lately :(
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 12:43 (twelve years ago) link
The opening posts on these threads seem immediately sad to me now. It's like when a mid-tier character in a film or tv show suddenly gets a lot of screen time in preparation for their impending, sudden killing-off.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 13:39 (twelve years ago) link
love that dawn track
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
There's tons of good stuff on Jade Alston's mixtape. Well worth the download.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32tIQ3EbQXQ
― Evan R, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
that teyana taylor track BW posted is incred btw
― Regional Thug (D-40), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
mariahhhhhhh
― surm, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
that Jade Alson track is pretty good, nice find Evan.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
the teyana taylor song is very good
first thing to ever justify her baffling existence
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:18 (twelve years ago) link
shes also wearing a bulls hat in the cover shot
― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
So yeah, this Jade Alston mixtape is very good! I love her voice, it has a smoky, smoldering quality to it that kind of recalls Toni Braxton a bit. This is gorgeous:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_737w0emkZoLike a depressive Teedra Moses lol
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B793cUI0ZhQ!!!
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
I really appreciate how she undersells each song, even a banger like "Bill Gates" (which is really great, too). Last year a lot of singers in this mold went BIG AND LOUD so much of the time, this is a nice break
― Evan R, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah definitely, she's very understated. I prefer her in mid-tempo/slow jam smoldering mode over the "Bill Gates"-type stuff though.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
I would really love a new Solange album this year, Sol-Angel is one of my favourite records of the last five years.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:42 (twelve years ago) link
Her voice reminds me of Naomi Allen's a bit xpost
― Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I can hear that
btw here's Dawn's new single from Golden Heart:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9JXm-csjQgwouldn't sound out of place on Brandy's Human album.
― The Brainwasher, Friday, 6 January 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
no more hashtags in song titles. besides, the time already took that to its logical extreme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APsNgDUTYE8
― The Reverend, Friday, 6 January 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 7:18 PM Bookmark
"google me" was a banger, fuiud
― The Reverend, Friday, 6 January 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link
hellloooo jade alston
really like "searching"
― The Reverend, Friday, 6 January 2012 02:03 (twelve years ago) link
not a fan of the new drum loop or synth part of SFMU
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Friday, 6 January 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
toooo excited about brandy's album right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nCj1vVNp0&fmt=18
― uberweiss, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nu6-C60dcQ&fmt=18
― uberweiss, Saturday, 7 January 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
These are pretty cool but I hope she isn't rapping on her new album >_<
― thuglifeさよなら (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 7 January 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif*BREAKING NEWS*http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif
JAZMINE SULLIVAN IS WORKING ON HER THIRD ALBUM
― I had to google gucci mane (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
New Tiffany Evans is excellent!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRBHgb7aTJI
― I had to google gucci mane (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
how has it taken me until now to hear melanie fiona's "4am"? this is fucking epic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgmHOcPDSso
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Monday, 16 January 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
I posted that on the sandbox r&b thread - it's doing well on the radio here
― dayo, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
That new Tiffany Evans song is seriously great, maybe even better than Won't Find Me from last year. Is there a new album due soon?
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 16 January 2012 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Like the Fiona track quite a bit. Would it be too controversial to note that I get a real Weeknd/"Marvin's Room" vibe off of this one?
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
nah it's definitely there, it's kinda like "marvin's room" x "try sleeping with a broken heart". i mean, jojo already showed us that the problem with the drake aesthetic isn't necessarily the nothingy atmospheres or mood or whatever, those only become inadequate when the artist/song is also inadequate - the problem is all HIM
putting someone like melanie fiona on top and letting her sing the HELL out of a strong song is obv a good move
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:26 (twelve years ago) link
i listened to it walking home drunk at 4am last night btw! it was a moment
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 11:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah when "4 AM" first came out i thought it was probably from the Noah Shebib Submarine Sound Factory and kinda resisted it because of that and because it's SO different from what i liked hearing Fiona do on "Gone And Never Coming Back" and "Fool For You," but it grew on me anyway.
― some dude, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
The new Melanie Fiona single is even more stunning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdwF4R9i0q4
― Evan R, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
Elle Varner released a mixtape, btw. I've just skimmed through out but it sounds cool so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXWFr68bMs
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:00 (twelve years ago) link
Really feeling this, I was hoping the Dawn single would be more like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1i_2vvbprM
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:11 (twelve years ago) link
And the new Teairra Mari single is a banger, though rooting for her to actually have a hit single again and release an album is a lost cause of Cassie-esque proportions at this point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeJtdHHOjw4
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
really like that elle varner track
― dayo, Thursday, 26 January 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21wO14g9714R.I.P. RichGirl :(
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Friday, 27 January 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Yikes; the pacing on that song is excruciating. It just runs in place for three minutes that feel like eight.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 January 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
Two great ones right here. This Yuna track is the best Pharrell production I've heard it way too long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fITyU9KM3CU
And this Jahah is an awesome surprise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWp0ineOf0
It's like Glenn Lewis, if Glenn Lewis loved huge breakbeats.
― Evan R, Friday, 27 January 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
whoa, this jahah is sweet.
― pandemic, Friday, 27 January 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
so what do we call that beat in the elle varner song - breakbeat? sounds like idm to me
― dayo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
i fuck w/ this new slim song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNvdUH7buBM
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
this mixtape has a bunch of really good stuff on it, but the mastering is fucking awful
http://www.datpiff.com/Slim-of-112-Cruisin-Da-City-Vol-1-mixtape.308742.html
― J0rdan S., Monday, 30 January 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
Always a welcome voice.
― Poon Aggroved (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 30 January 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4I1-aVZj1s
^ from kalenna's new mixtape
― just sayin, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
digging the elle varner mix tape, it's like a purer + better version of the janelle monae album
― dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, January 30, 2012 12:33 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pedantry alert but when a mixtape sounds like shit it's usually that it wasn't mastered all rather than mastered poorly
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:33 (twelve years ago) link
bachelored
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
idgi, was the first ginuwine album mastered badly or something?
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
^phd in dad jokes
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxjn7R_TU0o&feature=g-logo&context=G2fe938fFOAAAAAAABAA
total sadlol at "Art Dealer Chic Vol. 1" (is that what he's saying in the backgroun?) but OH FUCKING SHIT THIS IS GOOD
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
*on repeat*
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is great
― dayo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
oh shhh
think miguel is reaching own thread status tbh
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
ah man this is great
Excellent. Short and sweet. Concept for video is kind lame, cool hair though.
Let my loove adooorn you
― dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
sounds kinda 80s, no?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
Some of the intermittent synths have some 80s to them.
― dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
"art dealer chic vol 1" is totally *smh... head flies off of neck and out of window* tho
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 4 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
whoa this is good
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
what a pleasantly surprising turn, didn't think he had this in him for some reason
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
I've listened to this 20+ times already.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is amazing
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:00 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
um aren't we talking about the guy who no matter how you slice it has made between 1 and 4 of the best R&B singles of the last 18 months?
― some dude, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
someone plz immediately bump w/ an HQ mp3
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
def prefer this to 'sure thing'
― #YOLO #NAMASTE (D-40), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
wearing this song out
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
ART DEALER CHIC VOL. 1
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Saturday, February 4, 2012 8:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh for sure but it's just such a stylistic shift, didn't mean that as a diss. this is exactly what i wanted and i didn't even know it
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
art dealer chic apparently = wearing suspenders over a sweater
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
smhiguel
dunno why but something about this song reminds me of aaron neville, it's a good one though
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:07 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is actually a great title, fuiud
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
Well fuck me in that case.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
This kind of reminds me of "Try Sleeping With a Broken Heart".
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
It makes sense as this is something that would be played at an art dealer's apartment. I like the song. My attitude towards Miguel has changed (even though he embarrases himself a lot). He should've been lumped in with Frank and Weeknd with the whole "new r&b guy" trend. I guess he isn't drugged up or skeezy enough.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
He should've been lumped in with Frank and Weeknd with the whole "new r&b guy" trend.
fux no.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
god no
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus I mean as getting exposure from a different audience. Yes he is probably more commercially successful than them but a little bit more wouldn't hurt. You guys are just reactionary as fuck.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
'sure thing' was def mentioned in the original weeknd thread
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they have that same morso tone in their voices. Just Miguel knows not to sound whiny unlike The Weeknd.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
The discourse around the Weekend and Frank Ocean sapped any enjoyment of them I'd had. I'd hate for the same to happen to Miguel.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
I guess because I've been busy working a lot in 2011 that I didn't read much (if at all) on the discourse around them. I only read rave reviews about them around the blogosphere. (I read plenty of discourse on Tyler, The Creator though ugh).
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
omg this miguel
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, February 5, 2012 1:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
troo
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
my favourite part is 0.00 to 2.28
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
even tho miguel was sorta new like frank ocean and the weeknd, the audiences aren't really the same so it's sort of a weird thing to bring up
it would make more sense imo to talk about how miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz... or how something like "adorn" is like if jeremih had a second hit off of his last album
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz...
a bit premature to say this imo, songz is a very good songwriter.
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://artdealerchic.com/ is pretty funny too. LENON.
― Jacques_Lamure, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
LOL:
http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/miguelunlimited/16892987528/1/tumblr_lyqqosCoBT1r9vju3
― DO NOT CALL (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ track listing font choice
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
thought that was the new weeknd tracklist
― nowadays suckers seem to be so fucking naïve (uberweiss), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
btw if you like sleepin w/ a broken heart, I dig this remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8O-bb5pdk
the painting isn't the worst thing in the world
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
god I wish the terry richardson photo aesthetic would just die
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah seriously
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
this new miguel song is so delicate. the production really leaves room for his voice to soar at the end there.
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
<i>He should've been lumped in with Frank and Weeknd with the whole "new r&b guy" trend.</i>
...
<I>even tho miguel was sorta new like frank ocean and the weeknd, the audiences aren't really the same so it's sort of a weird thing to bring up
it would make more sense imo to talk about how miguel is a much more creative, fun and singular songwriter than trey songz</i>
I interviewed Trey Songz the other week, and he touched on a lot of the points this thread has over the last couple of days. His big-picture take on R&B is that it's a good time for the genre, with young blood like Miguel, Frank Ocean and The Weeknd (he listed them in that order, I think) doing great things that are possible in part because they've done their own thing instead of trying to cater to a Top 40 radio climate that doesn't have much interest in R&B right now.
― Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
(sorry I used the wrong HTML for those italics)
― Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
I think Miguel is a better songwriter than Trey Songz, but My Mans is more singular. It's often his clumsier aspects that are the most distinct.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvdppj5moIFtoIwOpNZdCvC3GUtxYFdpsG7OyDJ9ECwTYgHlxiMXwh-Qhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2dhttp://snd.sc/z1PP2d
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^^^^ NEW BRANDY AND MONICA SONG ^^^^^^^^^^^
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ AWESOME ^^^^
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
just heard that on the radio coming home, pretty good
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:12 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry bwasher, didn't want to squash your enthusiasm, not feeling this really at all. Nothing particularly memorable about any of it.
― dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
I wish there was some good reason for it to be a duet
― Evan R, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Somehow never found the R&B 2012 thread until today. Hm. Excited to work through all this.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
Ok. That first Dawn Richards single does sound very Brandy.
Listening to the Jade Alston tape and she had me from the Single on a Saturday Night Intro which is A++ gorgeous. Like the guitar counterpoint going on in at the end of 'Missing You Lately'.
She's got a beautiful lower register - I can't think of the last time we had a R&B singer who consistently hung out in that part of her vocal register. Very sultry.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
The Elle Varner mixtape is also pretty good, even the R&B cover of Ani Difranco.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:50 (twelve years ago) link
New mixtape from Kalenna of Dirty Money, a few dope cuts on it
http://www.datpiff.com/Kalenna-Chamber-Of-Diaries-mixtape.312046.html
― sisilafami, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
Another mixtape
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2012/02/14/take-a-trip-to-raheem-devaughs-loveland/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
usher - climax
http://soundcloud.com/diplo/climax
:o
― nowadays suckers seem to be so fucking naïve (uberweiss), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
yes,
:O
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. I was just coming here to post that. Was a bit skeptical at first, but it's one of my favourite Usher tracks in ages, notwithstanding Diplo's involvement.
Market forces + Guetta pushing Usher away from his totally awesome balladry towards Autotuned Taio Cruz/Derulo ish was/is incredibly depressing. This doesn't quite match the best of old-Usher, but this is /DAMN/ good.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
I mean. It's no 'Burn' or 'U Got It Bad', but I'll take what I can get.
Real good.
― dr dre throwing dubstep balloons (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is incredible
― flopson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
it sounds cool but think the songwriting is a bit lacking
it kinda needs a hook... as far as astral third era usher songs go, "mars vs venus" >>>>>> climax
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
'astral third era usher songs' is going to be the name of my sci-fi paperback
― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
I think the songwriting is actually really sharp. There's a lot of layers of deliberate ambiguity behind what on the surface seems a shitty double entendre. It doesn't hit me as immediately as "Papers" (or even "Stranger") but it's the first Usher track in a while that leaves me something to chew on.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9Sz7MpCbw<3
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
annoying pronunciation aside this tinashe tape is sounding very very good. she commands the tracks, some of which sound like the weeknd with competent vocals. actually these are way beyond just competent... please, school me on tinashe. easily debut of the year so far
― saturdaynight (jk), Friday, 17 February 2012 03:20 (twelve years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, February 6, 2012 2:48 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this seems like a pretty pat summary of it, esp considering that one song aside neither of the latter artists have done any damage to the charts either...
― D-40, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
fuck evy jane
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
more fucking tumblr&b. JUST FUCK OFF
new nikkiya song is really excellent though
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
Just tried that Evy Jane track. Not good, but it's not that different from some of the more ephemeral stuff in the outsider R&B thread. Why such hostility? Did a pitchfork writer recommend her or something?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
It showed up in FACT today and they're white and from Vancouver?
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Unless there's a more tangible reason.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
all fair enough reasons to hate tbqh
― illuminati girl (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like half these acts would be better if they used snare in their beats
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
("these" being ppl like Evy Jane)
Listening to Evy Jane and don't really understand why we're even discussing them as R&B (and by extension why their existence is threatening to R&B).
This sounds far more like Purity Ring or random witch house stuff than anything that's been claimed to be 'an evolution of R&B' - I understood the frustration w/ the discourse around Frank Ocean and The Weeknd even if I couldn't entirely get behind it, but this sounds like a different thing altogether.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't love the A-side, "SaySo", but OhSo was okay. But they're basically a b-grade Purity Ring.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
it was described as r&b it's shit let's talk about and listen to something else
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
weren't you the first person to bring them up? unless there's an unlabeled Youtube that I can't see
why even mention them in this thread if you don't want to talk about them?
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link
been digging that alunageorge track from last year lately
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
i thought everyone would just ignore it à la what happens when i bring up artists and songs i'm really into
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, exactly - no one knew about them (or at least no one was talking about them until you did!)
But anyway - R&B - Melanie Fiona's new album is confusing me. We have three lead singles so far.
I love 4 AM but it's totally Drake-y and not really what her general style is. Gone and Never Coming Back is a good big ballad, but didn't blow me away.
And now there's 'Wrong Side of a Love Song' which is breathtaking but a total throwback - right down to the organ.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
Most people do not ignore the songs and artists you're really into. Two people said that in some other thread in a manner that was blatant trolling - while about 6 other people were actively saying that they pay attention to your recommendations.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway.
re: Melanie Fiona - it just got delayed until May. Does this mean they're retooling it to fit the success of 4AM?
Because her chops would be wasted on a whole album of 40 copycat beats.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
i started a melanie fiona thread about an hour ago which has gotten zero answers so far
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
lex you're being a weirdo
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
hahahaha I thought you were kidding
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
I've already said all I had to say about melanie fiona the other times you and I have posted about her, which is that it's a fucking awesome song
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
My bad. I've been on my phone and just checking bookmarks.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
people kept saying they wanted track threads during the EOY polls! i just have no idea what people want
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
MF is probably my most anticipated album of the year right now. "Wrong Side of a Love Song" is just amazing. I have mixed feelings about the latest leak, though, "Change The Record." Ugh, B.o.B. makes me appreciate all those so-so J. Cole guest verses.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:44 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark
to stop whining to people who clearly respect your taste and follow your recommendations about how no one cares what you talk about
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
also, the track threads that DO get made maybe aren't very popular, don't get a lot of posts, but still seem to have a big effect on year-end poll results, like seany mac & des piccalo
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
And sometimes it just takes people a while to discover things. I posted "4 AM" to the Rolling R&B thread last August; it's kind of silly to huff about a thread started an hour ago
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
Whoa... the new Lloyd (UK-only) single is a total mess. It samples "Take My Breath Away" AND features Nelly.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
I actually kind of liked it, sans Nelly. Turning "Take My Breath Away" into a club anthem deserves some props.
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
anyway, thoughts on Jessie Ware? She's being lumped in with the whole "alternative r&b" (***rolleyes***) thing but I'm really feeling this song, kind of has a nu-age Lisa Stansfield thing going on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvlFWmvgeVI
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
Good stuff! I could definitely listen to an entire album of that.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:15 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark
any song that samples "take my breath away" has like, a 95% chance of being good imo
NB: have not heard this song
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't heard jessie ware's new one yet but i loved "strangest feeling" from last year - she's in with glasgow's numbers crew i believe, her first release was with sbtrkt on their label
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ1-EAZ2eYA
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
the Lloyd track:
http://youtu.be/7_eYfz743YU
it's... not good
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, maybe you dig a budget Ginuwine singing over what sounds like an unfinished demo beat but I do not
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:47 (twelve years ago) link
and wow does it get super embarrassing when Nelly shows up
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
damn... that was not what I was thinking of at all
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
"Strangest Feeling" is nice, too—love the way she her voice alternatingly blends into and cuts against the track.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
was thinking of a lush and smooth jam like "you"
basically that whole Lloyd song has "American Idol runner-up" written all over it; if you had told me that was Just Guarini's comeback single I wouldn't have blinked twice
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
<i>damn... that was not what I was thinking of at all</i>
hahaha, I wish I could hear the song you imagined in your head. I think Lloyd's parts are actually pretty sharp, but the track is just not salvageable
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
i was just listening to the latest T.I. mixtape today and thinking about how odd it is that Nelly still exists and people keep working with him as if he still existed
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
the new Wale single would be a really dope King of Hearts-worthy Lloyd jam if you deleted all the Wale bullshit off it btw
haha well like I said, I was just thinking of how lloyd turned 'true' into a jam for 'you,' so something along those lines xxp
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
the least you can do after releasing a double LP titled Sweat/Suit is disappear in a cloud of embarrassment
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
every new lloyd single seems to have a faster tempo than the last lloyd single
― flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, it's becoming a problem, huh?
"Sabotage" is a killer choice for a Wale single though. That shit jams.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
haha maybe someone should stage an intervention before Lloyd tries singing over Moby's "Thousand"
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
the jessie ware thing is great, it's produced by the very talented julio bashmore
the disclosure remix is great as well if you like house-y stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGjO212KrA
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:52 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha over the weekend i put "nelly" into my itunes filter the other day and was like "damn, t.i. really likes to work with nelly. they must have a good time together."
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thefader.com/2012/02/22/video-fortebowie-impala/
ethan p put me onto this dude, i like his shit
― D-40, Thursday, 23 February 2012 07:16 (twelve years ago) link
really like that
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
yo that is awesome
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link
Amazing.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:32 (twelve years ago) link
The internet is saying it's produced by friendly fires o_O
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's what the official mixtape version is tagged as
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
just a sample surely?
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
the song is tagged as "produced by friendly fires"
― flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 13:03 (twelve years ago) link
miguel just tweeted a link to art dealer chic vol. 1
mediafire.com/?15v7cf2ic9bexx6
― tundra, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
whoa love that fortebowie. the rap is pretty jarring at first but i think he pulls it off
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:09 (twelve years ago) link
gravity is on par with adorn
― tundra, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
wow yeah gravity is great
just listened to "adorn" for the first time in a couple weeks and wow is it still incredible
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 06:06 (twelve years ago) link
This is all exceptional
― Evan R, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
for those who missed the dl links it's on datpiff
new volumes will be released on the 27th of each month
― tundra, Thursday, 1 March 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
fyi the estelle album is pretty damn good despite how transparently she wants to be lauryn right down to the classroom interludes about love that you have to program out
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5innG_SeKcQ
diggy is kinda lame but jeremih remains great as usual
― flagp∞st (dayo), Sunday, 4 March 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
"diggy is kinda lame" may be the understatement of the year
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:29 (twelve years ago) link
are we on "gucci this, gucci that" at all?
sounds like a pretty great throwback to crunk & b to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GSyrnsn4WI&ob=av2e
and if you're like me you're just pretending that it's the return of vistoso bosses
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
wow they've grown since we last saw them
great to see their production strategy continues to be daddy's leftovers
― lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
(i knew i'd fuck with it before i even pressed play and it didn't disappoint)
i love the hook & cute happy vibe of "do it like you"
― flopson, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
it's also hilariously comes off as a direct response to "gucci gucci"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:29 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah I watched the video after I posted it and I think he's a bieber clone? wikipedia sez he's the son of rev run though!
― flagp∞st (dayo), Monday, 5 March 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link
― flopson, Sunday, March 4, 2012 6:40 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
I knew you would come through :-)
is diggy diggy simmons or something? think he was xxl freshmen last year? or is he young money? or both?
― flopson, Monday, 5 March 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
definite post-drake vibe
― flopson, Monday, 5 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
song is straight up adorable though
it would be hilarious if there was more than one kiddie rapper named diggy but yeah diggy simmons just decided to go mononym
jeremih needs to come with that third album already and stop giving hooks to wack rappers to stay on the radio
― some dude, Monday, 5 March 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
sh1pley go hard otm
― J0rdan S., Monday, 5 March 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
apparently this leaked in novmeber, but i guess the NO DJ version has leaked now --
pretty interesting line up... t-pain ft petey pablo & magoo + lil jon and fatman scoop shouting shit, but it's kind of a chill joint -- at least for something called "bring the club back"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmKDk5DKFPY
― J0rdan S., Monday, 5 March 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
maybe more rolling pop than rolling r&b but figured the audience for it is here
ignore the first 7 seconds of that video
the fatman scoop shouting is mixed so loud lol, sounds terrible
― flopson, Monday, 5 March 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of love this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=575DbfYEDCc
― Evan R, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently this guy Marcus Canty was on the American version of X-Factor? At least something good came from that show; I'd buy a full album of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JDephJ_a1o
― Evan R, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
i had to listen to some jade alston to cleanse my ears after that shitty fortebowie song (well, WHAT SONG indeed)
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
just this dreadful amateur attempt to recreate "sex intelligent". NO THANKS
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:15 (twelve years ago) link
There's some pretty good stuff on the new Teyana Taylor mixtape. Solid release.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
Some of these Hitboy-produced Taylor tracks are just gorgeous. Not sure how I missed "Gorgeous" when it came out in 2009. "You Know" is really pretty, too.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
anyone have XM radio? this one dj, cayman kelly (@CaymanKellyshow), just has the best fuckin taste, love listening to his show. slow jam heaven
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
just followed up the new eric benet single (which is nice!) with kut klose "i like" (!!)
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wo5Hh-fXs
― tundra, Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:38 (twelve years ago) link
awesome
― sean gramophone, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
it's all getting a bit obvious, this late night laptop melancholy stuff
― lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
inclined to agree
i still find jhene interesting; her voice and songwriting just hit it for me
― tundra, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
<3 her
― The Reverend, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FFljQvW3M&feature=youtube_gdata_player
i like this song
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
feeling the melanie fiona album so far. guest rappers could do better without exception though.
did she just channel nina simone there on "bones"?! rather incredible, that one.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
hahahaha "6am"!!!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
The MF Life is sort of like 2012's answer to Lloyd's King of Hearts for me. A back-to-back strong album that's maybe a few missteps away from being the indisputable masterpiece I really wanted it to be, but still probably the best album I could have reasonably expected.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
I do like how in his guest verses Nas always mentions the name of the artist featuring him. It's a little thing, but that personal touch makes them feel less remote than the usual copy-and-paste verse.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/v/L5FFljQvW3M&feature=youtube_gdata_player&fs=1&hl=en
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:04 PM (11 hours ago)
whoops here's the actual song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGwUyuSHomk&ob=av2n
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
relistening to melanie fiona's debut - so much better than i thought at the time, but i'm remembering why i dismissed it - around that time everyone was doing these chintzy retro 60s sounds, it was kind of like labels were trying to cast around for a non-scary winehouse without the crack and ink, so we got adele and duffy and several others i probably forget, and melanie fiona fit a bit too snugly into that. a few years later it sounds a lot better.
but the mf life is still a huge step up.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
also if i may repeat myself, the estelle album is EXCELLENT
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
The MF Life is dope, exactly what i was hoping for
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
maybe not as good as the Lloyd album but the missteps are WAY less glaring imo
Yeah, the missteps are pretty forgivable. "6 AM" is like a bad joke to me, and the sappiness of that John Legend track seems to cut against the rest of the album, but those are pretty minor quibbles. Mostly her voice is so fantastic that I just want more of it, in any context.
― Evan R, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
"6 am" is a good joke! r kelly worthy tbh
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
"bones" is def the most amazing after "4 am" though
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
"Bones" is the type of retro I usually reflexively hate, but it's so damn flawless it just totally wins me over
― Evan R, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
nice to see a couple productions from Jack Splash of "Fool For You" fame (4 counting bonus tracks!)
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
Also, MF takes all the right cues from Mary, Mariah and Alicia, but more than any of those influences she comes off as really sympathetic and relatable. I can't quite pinpoint what it is that makes me connect to her so much, but there's something about these songs that leaves me really vested in Melanie Fiona and her happiness.
― Evan R, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
the comparison springing to mind to me throughout was NEW JAZMINE
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah thematically and musically there's a lot of shared territory, although i think the grain of each's respective voice is distinct enough that it's a non-issue while i'm listening.
― internet somebody (some dude), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
she could never compare to Jazmine! and she's definitely not more sympathetic than MARY of all people!!!
still haven't listen to this yet though, will give it a spin l8r.
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 22 March 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
I think public image plays some role in it. Mary is MARY, all caps. Melanie is just Melanie. Not royalty or anything.
― Evan R, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
And yeah, I definitely hear the Jazmine now; both have the Salaam Remi thing going on. And now I am really nostalgic for "10 Seconds," which I miss hearing daily
― Evan R, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
MF Life is projected to sell a disappointing 23k - 27k. We complain about this all the time, but I'm still a bit stunned by how bad the publicity campaign for this album has been, especially on the print side. There have been hardly any newspaper or magazine reviews of it.
― Evan R, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
i like the jessie ware stuff. sort of like if azari & iii made 2-step or something? really nice.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
ART DEALER CHIC Vol. 2. Can we talk about it? Can we talk about how great 'Arch n Point' is? And "...ALL"?
There's no 'Adorn' here but this is such a great way to consume music. Every month getting a little three track parcel of awesome from Miguel instead of having to wait for the next full album.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
haven't heard it yet but there's a thread: thread of miguel
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
on the off chance you guys arent up on your eastenders actresses' sanging careers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOC9hGGs5GM
shockingly impressive imo!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
(in a remedial uk kinda way, natch)
― r|t|c, Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
nobody here likes 'the misunderstanding of teyana taylor'? i know 'armor on' is the best thing in the world, right now...but that mixtape deserves some love, i guess (better than 'mf life' imho)
― rusty_allen, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
some dude wrote this on thread Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy on board I Love Music on Nov 26, 2010
i literally had to google teyana taylor to remember whether she was the person who did "google me" -- prophetic song
― some dude, Friday, 30 March 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link
i always forget that i actually liked "make your move". idk whenever i remember teyana taylor exists i just get that na'tee line "teyana taylor got your girl doing sit-ups" in my head
― lex pretend, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
i should probably check out that mixtape though
people have been sleeping on the estelle album too, it's really v strong and perfect for this weather
^^ forgot about that too (damn you dawn richard for being so incredible!), tho i've never been that hooked on her in the first place. will check that.
(in portugal it's raining, so 'armor on' is a perfect fit - if a setting was ever needed)
― rusty_allen, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:14 (eleven years ago) link
the first single from the Estelle album was on the radio so long ago that i didn't even realize that the album itself only just dropped last month
― some dude, Friday, 30 March 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
Still sorting out my feelings about this guy, but I'm really into the new Bei Maejor mixtape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMA40d0C904
― Evan R, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
he has a new one out again?
― dayo, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
i always feel like this guy's stuff is a lot more slight than it should be, but the tape sounds pretty good
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds pretty radio ready
he shouldn't be rapping this much tho
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
There's a disconnect between his voice, which is the definition of slight, and his songs, which can be super bold ("The Truth" is really chilling). His rapping is just dreadful, but his storytelling is really vivid.
― Evan R, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Goapele 'Tears On My Pillow' got visuals (from 2011). I love the last minute of this song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eOBNiYDuPY
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
New Monica album seems like a mixed bag—Rico Love seems off his game on a lot of these ballads. But I'm listening to the album preview stream of the new SWV album and everything sounds absolutely incredible. Can't wait to hear the real thing.
― Evan R, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
I'm ready to write the Monica album off as a total disappointment.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Someone on twitter called it the aural equivalent of a Tyler Perry movie.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:41 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, that's kind of spot on, sadly. One of the non-Madea ones where you actually kind of begin to miss Madea.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I had to sit through The Family That Preys once and I know exactly what you mean.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
damn i saw that Monica's album was out and was looking forward to listening to it this morning before i looked at this thread. will still check it out and see if there are any standout songs, because i love that woman's voice.
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
The new Brandy single is beyond awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uHCVaVZfQ4
― Evan R, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
love it!
― tundra, Saturday, 28 April 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link
That is brilliant, even with Chris Brown.
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 28 April 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
either this thread or You forgot how incredible SWV were... needs more people talking about the great new SWV album
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Saturday, 28 April 2012 08:13 (eleven years ago) link
New Jessie Ware is very pretty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblGD5yuid8&feature=player_embedded
― Tim F, Saturday, 28 April 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
Produced by Julio Bashmore too! Didn't really see that coming but it makes perfect sense.
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 29 April 2012 09:34 (eleven years ago) link
really feeling the new usher single - between this and "climax" it's boding v well for his album
http://soundcloud.com/usher-raymond-music/lemme-see-feat-rick-ross
sparse and minimal blah blah but it sounds HUGE too
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
ha for a sec i thoguht you were going to say you were feeling the max martin-produced "scream"
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh no i didn't know about that :(
i take back my positive prediction
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
oh dear i just noticed the trayvon martin reference o_0
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 30 April 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
I hope this post-F.A.M.E. bifurcation of R&B album singles into "pop" and "urban" subsets isn't a lasting trend; it's just so shameless
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
it's here to stay, at least for the artists who are big enough to shoot for the pop market
― some dude, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm just gonna dream of the early 2000s, when a great song could play in both formats without pandering to either. Better times.
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, it's really tasteless, but still better than Childish Gambino's Trayvonsploitation hashtag from hell
― some dude, Monday, April 30, 2012 1:43 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol me 2
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, April 30, 2012 10:55 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pre-dates FAME but for sure this is the worst thing to happen to pop in the past five years, even worse than everything sounding like gay club tourism music or rap songs with white people singing
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Monday, 30 April 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
Part of the magic of "Climax," I think, is that it bucks this trend. It sounds amazing on both pop and urban stations, and that hasn't been true of an Usher single in ages
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
"gay club tourism music" is my favourite descriptor ever.
less gay club tourism music, more gay 90s house music is my new mantra.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
rap songs with white people singing
ha, never really thought about it, but this is another great example of the marginalization of R&B. Scabs like Skylar Grey and Matthew Santos are stealing all the prime guest spots
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
can we count bruno mars as white for this exercise?
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:33 (eleven years ago) link
he's not white?
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
wait, Bruno Mars and Matthew Santos aren't the same person?
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
which one was in Coldplay then?
bruno maris is puerto rican/fillipino
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
i'm well aware of that.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, April 30, 2012 8:30 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark
it's barely on pop stations, in america anyway
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, May 1, 2012 1:45 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah, I've not once heard this on my pop station, though I've never heard it on my hip-hop/R&B station either. I've heard "Without You" and "Scream" on the latter, but it plays so much pop that they don't stand out.
― scarfs, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Climax" is on r&b stations a ton. i will challop and say i prefer "Without You" though (or for that matter, "Papers").
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
"without you" is one of the biggest shitsacks ever
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
there are plenty of usher singles that are better than "climax" but none of them have been released post-confessions era
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah srsly man that is a remarkably horrible opinion even for you
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:20 (eleven years ago) link
climax is mad wack idgi
and so is this new song
there's better shit on both here i stand and raymond v. raymond
"IMO"
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
i like "climax" but ursh had put out plenty of singles post-confessions that are its equal, at least
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, April 30, 2012 6:20 PM Bookmark
sorry for not sticking up for "omg" and "moving mountains"
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
not you dumbass
i like climax a lot but yeah ok i wouldnt say its miles and miles ahead of some rvr stuff
however 'without you' sucks and here i stand was wall 2 wall interminable garbage iirc
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
why do you all hate "moving mountains"
it is NOT a bad song!
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
first couple times i heard "Without You" i thought it was Mario, still really think he sounds more like Mario than Usher on that song. it's a good vocal, though.
"Trading Places" is prob my favorite post-Fesh era single, no Teriustan
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
an "xp" goes a long ways, rtc
tbh i prefer the funkystepz remix of "climax" to the of but then again i would
"moving mountains" is kind of amazing and epic (esp with that video!) but not in a good way. i will here i stand up for "trading places" just cause of lol lyrics tho
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:31 (eleven years ago) link
hot toddie, papers, omg, there goes my baby, love in this club, dj got us falling in love, love in this club pt II <-- all songs i more or less enjoy as much as "climax"
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
He's made better singles than "Climax" but I'm a sucker for this kind of production and singing.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
and, yeah, "Climax" has had no pop exposure down here at all.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
saying that usher has made better singles than "climax" may be the greatest understatement i've ever read on ilx
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
understatement's not a virtue for which ILX is famous.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
haha rev his "yeah" was clearly kind of piggybacking off your post to also respond to me, don't blame him that you didn't read the post right
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
I pretty much view it in the same lineage (and inferior to) "u got it bad" and "burn" but with more production frippery that doesn't really add to the song. which is a better look for him than anything else he's done in the past five years, mind you.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i read from where i had it bookmarked and ended up looking like a dummy. my bad.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
I disagree on the frippery. The arrangement and singing is thought-through. I suppose it's not much different from "There Goes My Baby," which I dig too.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
bad/burn/papers are are most comically transparent in being rewrites of each other but i don't really hear climax as being in that tradition
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
"Papers" is the gold standard of post-Confessions Usher singles imo, but that's because it's the only one that strikes me as genuinely sad
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
What I do find encouraging about the new Usher singles, though, is that they've really put the emphasis on his voice again. After the Versus era dude is really flaunting his range
― Evan R, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
haven't much cared for many of his club bangers tbh
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 02:28 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/U05aq.gif
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah to be honest i've never been big on club banger usher -- love "u don't have to call" but compared to his other clubby hits it's downright cozy
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
climax is super entertaining to sing along to in ::dramatic:: fashion
mind u so is lotus flower bomb and best believe i'm not officially cosigning that
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
"lil freak" is easily the best post-confessions usher single for me and even then it's hardly amazing
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link
smh @ j0rdan slipping "omg" and "dj got us falling in love" in his on-a-par-with-climax list
"omg" was kinda trolling but "dj got us falling in love" is basically the classic eurohouse r&b song of the past few years
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
"post-Fesh"
simultaneous desire to paypal and sb you for this
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:02 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link
usher/ross song is good... beat kinda reminds me of "i'm on one"
― frogbs in the trap (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.thisisrnb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/usher-l4m-cover.jpg
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Nikkiya Speakher Overload Deluxe Edition is out. Has a few new tracks on it and a remix of 'I Like What Your Doin Main.' Just listening to this now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf9Sz7MpCbw
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:32 (eleven years ago) link
Kevin Cossom mixtape 'Hook vs Bridge II' produced mostly by Danja:
http://www.mediafire.com/?36l36jbbjtt3t0l
― Bulge Pimp (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 11 May 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
Actually really digging the new Ne-Yo track (save for one sub-Bruno Mars line right at the beginning)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZtKAVfdvk&feature=related
― Evan R, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
This is actually pretty great.
― Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Have we talked about Emanny's Songs About Her? I know I got it from one of y'all either here or on Tumblr or somewhere. It triangulates Drake, The Weeknd and Ne-Yo basically but it's awesome because he has actual songwriting chops and just uses that post-40 soundscape to really dig into solid songs.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 26 May 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.datpiff.com/Emanny-Songs-About-Her-mixtape.354536.html
That might have been my rec. I'm still really digging it. Seems like he's sort of positioned himself as a more traditionalist Bei Maejor; he embraces a lot of the same post-Anticipation sounds, but usually stays grounded in Mario/Ne-Yo balladry. This one's probably my fav right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3hjmRYo_pI
― Evan R, Saturday, 26 May 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
lolling at both the phrase 'post-Anticipation' and its intended meaning
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. forever is really pretty.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 26 May 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a384612/ciara-confirms-new-single-sweat-album-one-woman-army.html
Ciara has revealed the names of her comeback single and album.
The singer confirmed that her new single will be called 'Sweat', while her fifth studio album will be titled One Woman Army.
1) SCREAM2) good Ciara titles3) ominous lack of release date
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
RocaBoi18YES CISUS! I am ready!!! I'm buying 5 copies of the album!!!!May 31st 2012 at 1:29pm
Jason ButcherYESSSSSS!!!!! CiCi is about to slay!!!! people need to remember how talented this woman is!!!! can't wait till shes back in the uk!!!! Csquad STAND UP!!!!!!May 31st 2012 at 11:41am(+1 like)
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
ha i know a guy name jason butcher but he is not a british ciara stan
― some dude, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
would make more sense if it was him in that case
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:11 (eleven years ago) link
"Cisus"
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
RocaBoi18 would later be c-sectioned under the r&b mental health act
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link
reference to slayyyyying reminds me, has anyone else sampled the latest delights at stan wars yet?
http://stan-wars.com/knockdown.html
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 May 2012 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
new jhene aiko - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DREkQjsQnJU
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
wow that's great
and she's still really freaking hot
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
huh, jhene aiko and adiah were the same person to me until a minute ago
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, k3v? totally different vibes, to my ears.
adiah's stuff is much more, for lack of a better word, tropical? upbeat? i dunno. 'drumz' and that new song are both 'fun' or whatever.
jhene is basically the female sonic equivalent of drake and the weeknd for r'n'b but lex likes her. sometimes. she's also affiliated somewhat with kendrick + the black hippy crew and it sounds like it.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
also affiliated w/ miguel + fisticuffs
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
never been grabbed by her stuff for w/e reason
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, they both kind of sound like cassie, i guess, but not even in the same way
― The Reverend, Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean in fairness i've heard like 2 songs by each of them and they're both incredibly hot, aiko moreso i think
― twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
in fairness
― fapper don (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 2 June 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i find jhené aiko really uncompelling actually
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Monday, 4 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of like someone trying to deliberately recreate the prime cassiefanclub aesthetic (which cassie herself seems guilty of as well these days)
I don't really see the Cassie/Jhene comparison besides the thin voice? Cassie's songs, while sort of detached in performance still have a certain air of either (a) menace a la Me & U or (b) sweetness a la most of the rest of her stuff. It's bubblegum, and it's thin but it's polished and 'pop'. Jhene's stuff seems like Cassie trying to do Drake.
Much closer to the sonic universe of Drake/The Weeknd/this new Emanny album/Anticipation-era MMTS/whatever.
Old-school Cassie was always much tighter, either in her post-Neptunes R-Leslie incarnation or the more actively R&B but also club music era of Connecticut Fever, or King of Hearts, which is straight-up dance music, beautiful-detached-robo-Cassie vocals or no.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 4 June 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
god, Connecticut Fever will never not be hilarious
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
that's why it's my favourite! it was never a real album and it never will be, but it's such a great name and it's the best way to shorthand
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 4 June 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
i really wish drake would've named a mixtape Toronto Fever
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 June 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, his first mixtape was called "Room for Improvement" which is almost as great.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 4 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
"Degrassi Fever" would be better, tbh.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 4 June 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
he called himself the Tony Montana of Toronto, that's enough for me
― kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
jhene has this kind of subtle jazzy element to her that cassie does not (nor drake/weeknd)
― The Reverend, Monday, 4 June 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, June 4, 2012 11:06 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
wishing it was called Room for Home Improvement, featuring tim allen
― chris paul george hill (dayo), Monday, 4 June 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
SWEAThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ntfHBPpcon4
― prolego, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 09:32 (eleven years ago) link
CISUS
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
no this is JUST WHAT I NEED though
the wait for the HQ mp3 is already killing me GIMME THAT BASS
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:02 (eleven years ago) link
new thread time i think
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link
tweet covering aretha. so soooooo good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiWLkrAApSU
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, April 26, 2012 4:56 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark
needs to be mentioned again
― chris paul george hill (dayo), Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTO0GJFYH1k
nguzunguzu played that brandy single at the last night slugs - it's great
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link
but fucking chris brown goddddd
ikr? someone release a brown-less edit asap
― chris paul george hill (dayo), Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:09 (eleven years ago) link
ignored kelis demo sounding shit wasnt the tea in 2005 and still isn't today
― r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
xp I dunno; I wish Chris Brown all the misfortune in the world and I hate the idea of all Chris Brown guest verses on principle, but he actually brings it on that song
― Evan R, Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
i love the chorus on this and also, surprisingly, the beat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL1GcXuP9GM
not so much uncredited and frankly unwanted dude but good song nonetheless
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's okay! gone off it a fair amount since i first posted though, the whirring clunkiness endears then annoys
― r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
briefly just flicked thru this usher album, think i'm gonna like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZgDRRBzZsE
probably not gonna be the best song on there but it pleased meh
― r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
I had a real short turnaround when reviewing this one, and I'm a bit bummed b/c it's still growing on me. It's a total grab bag, even by Usher standards, so I actually like it more now that I've heard the bonus tracks, which only make an already sprawling album that much more eclectic. (I really, really wish labels included bonus tracks in early review streams).
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
the bonus tracks are possibly the best (and they did include them in my review stream) (though fret not the label made themselves unhelpful in several different ways)
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
shit i need to get the bonus tracks
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
really annoying me that i can't place the classical sample on "ifu", it's really familiar
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
I try not to vent about this stuff too much, but every stream is a massive battle for me lately, especially the ones 2+ weeks out. The original Usher stream they gave me expired after three (3) listens. That's not enough for me to review any album. It also seems stupid b/c most music tends to grow on listeners over repeat listens; and this album in particular seems like a grower
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
it def needs time to settle because of how big and bloated it is
they sent me the stream on a wednesday - my deadline was the following monday - and they told me it'd expire on friday. i wouldn't have been able to listen much before friday so i said i'd need it over the weekend. they said nuh-uh, not in our power to do that. but when (after consulting w/my editor) i then said "if you don't let me listen over the weekend we won't run the review at all" suddenly magically they found a way!
cunts.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
also it was a stream where you had to go back to your computer and press play for each individual track rather than running straight through. some people at record labels need a punch in the face
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
Yup. Those individual track streams are most of the ones I get; they make PlayMPE seem like the most convenient format in the world. Best part of the three-listens only stream? Nowhere did it warn me I only had three listens. So it surprise-expired on Friday, and of course they couldn't renew it until Monday, my deadline.
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
I can't fault these protections too much, because they do curb leaks, and that's obviously the #1 goal. But it does seem like it's turning the publicist/critic relationship adversarial. We're a far cry from the days of stacks of unsolicited review copies of CDs, weeks before their release
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
every UK journalist I know has joined a facebook group called something like "PlayMPE is the worst thing in the universe"
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
does no one just record the streams...?
anyway had this on a couple of times and the sprawl isnt really shaping itself for me yet (suspect perhaps that's the point) but it's certainly less luridly jarring than nicki's. ursh is a agreeable and deft charmer though, much more so than usual, and comfortably shepherds his weird herd well. not sure i'm going to be as into it as i first thought i'd be however
― r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
they do curb leaks
do they? i mean...the usher album has leaked pre-release. every album does. and the leaks never came from journalists anyway.
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
it's certainly less luridly jarring than nicki's
i thought the opposite - nicki's album was at least divided into sections that made sense, whereas usher's is all over the place from one track to the next
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 8 June 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
also i keep coming back to 'ifu' and i can't decide if it's cos it's the best or just cos it comes as such a relief
― r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
I hate reviewing rap albums from streams more than anything, because I feel I can't properly judge most rap until I've heard it at least once in my car. But if I've got to stream, PlayMPE is at least an orderly system I can access both at home and at work.
It's inevitable that all albums leak about a week before their release; I think the labels have resigned themselves to that (and maybe even allow it). But five or six years ago, big albums were leaking three, four, or even five weeks before their release. That barely happens anymore.
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
nah i feel there's much more of an amalgamating sensibility, maybe even a line running through it albeit a vague one
usher is always a lot closer to his stages than nicki is though, it's inherent
besides that the divisions are what precisely didnt make sense with nicki's
― r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, June 8, 2012 10:58 AM (2 minutes ago)
For as much as it style-shifts, there are some subtle throughlines that tie this Usher album together, some repeated sounds and textures. The Nicki album was just spaghetti tossed at a wall, cynically divided into groupings of pasta and sauce once the mess hit the floor
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't agree with that at all. i mean they're both segregated... nicki's is half & half (more or less) while w/ usher it's the first two tracks & then the last one (at least as the super pop stuff goes). otherwise i think it flows pretty well, the uptempo songs in the middle of the album aren't jarring to me at all.
"climax" -> "i care for u" -> "show me" -> "lemme see" is a great stretch here, "twisted" & "dive" i'm not crazy about, but it picks up with "what happened to u" thru "sins of my father"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 8 June 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
"show me" is fucking amazing
Yeah, can't deny the dance tracks are pretty glaring outliers, but at least they're smartly sequenced to bookend the record. If you replaced "Can't Stop," "Scream" and "Euphoria" with three of the better bonus tracks, this would be one hell of an album, more or less.
"Twisted" is pretty lame. "Dive" sounds like a Savage Garden cover or some shit.
― Evan R, Friday, 8 June 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
sav garden would probably have the panache to get away with "precipitating walls" solecisms tbf
― r|t|c, Friday, 8 June 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
yes
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoy "can't stop won't stop" an unsettling and disturbing amount
AND RIGHT WHEN I SAW YA!I FELL IN LOVE!
― uberweiss, Saturday, 9 June 2012 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
that's the one where he says "i'll be your skin lotion" right?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
feeling the new mmts clapper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itnvwZ4Z1Hc
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
Trey Songz is really good at making the most of shameless club songs about being in the clubs.
"Heart Attack" has totally won me over. It just sounds bigger than most radio R&B right now; it's a total power ballad.
― Evan R, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
think there was some elle varner talk earlier but this sounds great on the radio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJIbNepRCS8
― un® (dayo), Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i love it (despite reservations about her squeaky oversinging), although rtc already told me that my enjoyment of it is a symptom of being stuck in 2004
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
I've never listened to that song in its entirety because I seriously cannot sit through the chorus. I like the fiddle, though.
― mississippi joan hart (crüt), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
i love that!
― tpp, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
verging on some kelsian yodelling towards the end there <3
― tpp, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
haha don't make me sound like even more of an ogre than i already am you dick
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
― bronytheus (some dude), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
feel like i should know better than to love that mmts, and then i feel like i should know better than to know better
how can you ever resist that operatic hamming tho, STOP TRIPPIN U CAN'T CONTROL THAT FREAK!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
what i would say to trey though is, hey, my mans, you are keeping it rolling and that is all well and good but where is your defining thong song that etches your silly swag into the public consciousness forevermore, reach for them stars homie
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it definitely feels like now that he's conquered his lane, both his bangers and his weepers aim to just maintain what they've already accomplished and not go any further. which is still kinda admirable given the desperate crossover splatter everyone else is going for, but it would be nice if he seemed to still have some unrealized ambitions.
thank god he's not following CB's lead and rapping on singles, though -- his flow on the "bait" remix and that dreamchasers 2 track are just horrifying.
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link
his "flow"
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 June 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
i liked his rapping on "wonder woman" fine, at least as far as r&b dude rapping goes
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Friday, 15 June 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he's done some pretty decent rapping and rapping-ish stuff on random remixes like "I'm The Ish" etc. over the years but on those 2 recent tracks he's just annoying as fuck
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
both his bangers and his weepers aim to just maintain what they've already accomplished and not go any further. which is still kinda admirable given the desperate crossover splatter everyone else is going for, but it would be nice if he seemed to still have some unrealized ambitions.
I can't argue with the gist of this, but I think it undersells him pretty badly. There's a clear advancement of his craft from album to album, ending with PP&P, which was a rock solid through and through; it was a traditionalist contemporary R&B album that never felt stiff or classicist, and that's an impressive feat in its own way. He's not dazzling anybody with innovation, but if his plan is to keep making bigger, better R&B albums in hopes of having a pop audience come to him, rather than having to chase them, I'm OK with that.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
not sure who this guy is... miguel tweeted a link to this last week or something
really strong song imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKfrhDmhbqI
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
every time Trey drops an album or mixtape i think "maybe this'll be the one i actually listen to" and then i don't. he can be great in small doses but an hour of all that emphatic vibrato just seems exhausting.
― bronytheus (some dude), Monday, 18 June 2012 00:40 (eleven years ago) link
he's pretty uncompelling all told
― lamborghini persie (J0rdan S.), Monday, 18 June 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
every time Trey drops an album or mixtape i think "maybe this'll be the one i actually listen to" and then i don't.
ha otm
― fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Monday, 18 June 2012 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
These #TweetTuesdays tracks are making me pretty excited for a new Tweet album. The new one is super soft.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
new kellz is quintessential "tasteful mid-tempos for the moms, with a couple of oddities to leaven it" but it's v enjoyable anyway
― star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
that was the last album too, the question is is it better/worse than that
― here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:18 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
officially obsessed over here
― fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
not as great on one listen, the last one seemed kinda more opulent and lavish than this
xp
― star-spangled david banner (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
what is the new tweet track called?
Have we discussed this yet?
https://twitter.com/_MAXWELL_/status/205133542668251137
Lead single from blackSUMMER'Snight forthcoming soon! Which means the album can't be far behind. So excited about this.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
oh thank god, three years was way too long a wait
― here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's ironic that #SUMMERS almost certainly won't be released until fall, earliest
― Evan R, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Lex, the new Tweet song is called "C 4eva". Acoustic is a good look for her, even if I think I like "Trouble" more
we fuckin w/ this new jeremih single?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOwEddREowI
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 June 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
production is interesting
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 June 2012 05:19 (eleven years ago) link
oh it's the same beat as that goapele song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRn2DAggPEE
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 June 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link
of course! was just scratching my head for a few minutes trying to place that. i really love that goapele song so can't really get into this.
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
Can't get into the new Jeremih song---his pseudo-rapping on it is just dreadful---but that ultra-Teriusy "Late Nights" track from a few months ago that never made any waves still pushes all the right buttons for me. Hoping his mixtape drops soon so I can enjoy it in the summer.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5uo2eZmF01rxlzpfo1_500.jpg
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
wtf kinda tumblr bullshit is that
― here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
just think its funny that gross rockist rap nerdery has infiltrated R&B discourse thanks to frank ocean and the weeknd. congrats
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah cos r&b fans never ever made assertions like that prior to the scapegoats de nos jours showing up
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah this isn't really that different to people comparing say Jill Scott and Destiny's Child a decade plus ago is it?
Except that there's now no hard distinction sonically (i.e the old battle lines were drawn on an organic/soulful vs electronic/beat-heavy axis as much as lyrics/persona).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
theres very much a diff i'm saying this is outsider rockism as opposed to old ppl rockism
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
this also strikes me as a p notable change too!
yeah I was just thinking I suppose the difference is that the current distinctions are drawn as between individuals' relationship with (roughly) the same culture/aesthetic rather than as between two competing (and stylistically/arguably generationally distinct) aesthetics.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
It's kind of like a fusing-together of the old authentic vs plastic division and the old innovators vs campfollowers division - the treatment of e.g. Frank Ocean is neither as another (say) Musiq Soulchild nor as another (say) Timbaland but a kind of combination of the two.
In some ways this kind of approach is harder to argue with (though that doesn't mean it's correct) because the protest "why shouldn't I want in-effect contemporary popular R&B with modern production and 'smarter' lyrics / subject matter?" seems more reasonable than "contemporary popular R&B is the very devil."
And you can attack the implied definition of 'smarter' as myopic and occasionally eye-rolly but outright objecting to stuff in that mould is difficult to justify objectively.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
this tweet stuff is ridic good
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
sayin
― fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit @ "c 4eva" this is beautiful
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
"trouble" too
what other tweet tuesdays tracks are there?
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/dubose-music-group
^ they're here
― just sayin, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Lead single from blackSUMMER'Snight forthcoming soon!
yessss
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
xp cheers
new brooke valentine official single - liking this on one listen, surprisingly lite and airy
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzB5Cn0tGEU
um this new wynter gordon is kind of WOW
http://soundcloud.com/andygensler/01-stimela-by-wynter-gordon
looks like she's doing a dawn richard with her imminent EPs... http://www.billboard.com/news/wynter-gordon-goes-d-i-y-for-new-eps-exclusive-1007383752.story#/news/wynter-gordon-goes-d-i-y-for-new-eps-exclusive-1007383752.story
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Sunday, 24 June 2012 11:29 (eleven years ago) link
:-O Not what i was expecting at all...
― Tim F, Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:19 (eleven years ago) link
Maxwell tour canceled due to 'vocal hemorrhaging' :(
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:36 (eleven years ago) link
Tweet, Mama's Gun-esque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbgTADYhl4
These have all been so good
― Evan R, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Have we had opinions about the new R Kelly album yet? I haven't heard past the two singles and I'm curious what the verdict is.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't a huge fan of Love Letter but it worked for what it was, and this feels like diminishing returns. love the MJ riffing on "You Are My World" though.
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
Only listened to it twice, but it seems pretty solid. With the 70s vibe its more of a sequel to Happy People than Love Letter, really. Given how terrible Kels' recent contemporary shit has been, I'm fine with him riding the retro lane a bit longer
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
i say this a lot, but i'd rather see black panties right now
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think this was posted elsewhere, but our first taste of black panties (ha) was really dire. "Its On" (sic) makes me long for that Mark Morrison song we were all laughing at last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr1VVtIABjM&feature=player_embedded#!
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
I was going to post about how amazing the Wynter Gordon song was before I got distracted by Miguel.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
Matos quite likes the Kells.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
wait a minute, how has "love letter" not being amazing been rewritten into the narrative without me realizing?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
the song or the album? song was v good, album was fine, but "amazing" is an absurd word touse
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
an absurd word to use, not the absurd word "touse"
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
who you calling abtouse
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
i meant the album, tho obviously that applies to the song too. alubm runs out of steam toward the end for me but there are a ton of gems too, things like "#1 hit" and "lost in your love" are better than he's done in years
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
also i had no idea he had a new album, nice
the kellz is good, maybe not as whoa or noteworthy as love letter but def worth hearing - more "step in the name of love"-style midtempos than big lavish balladry. "believe in me" is kind of amazing, "fool for you" is prob my fav.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDeFJHirxpY
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like this random alt-soul EP I picked up. Really good production, but the singer seems kind of lobotomized and I'm not sure I've heard an altogether necessary cover of "Sour Times" yet. Best track, I think, is "Free" which kind of sounds like Dawn x uk funky.
http://soundcloud.com/chericoke/sets/x-coke/
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link
is this the official point where there is no longer any point in posting things in the "kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b" thread instead of this one
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, maybe
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
errr, by Dawn i mean Druski tbh
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:46 (eleven years ago) link
I think I could listen to R Kelly stepper tunes forever. "Believe That It's So" is so lovely, I just want it to keep going and going.
"Fool For You" is lovely, yes.
― Tim F, Friday, 29 June 2012 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
i worship "Step In The Name Of Love" but the newer stuff really doesn't remotely hit the same mark imo
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
Timothy Bloom, reliable jaw-dropper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmxPPMLII4
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Also, don't want to dwell on it too much, but Ne-Yo just put out a shitty Euro-pop single called—I shit you not—"Let Me Love You." Sacrilegious.
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
wtf
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
the album after titling a song "one in a million" !!!!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
also he's on that new timbaland song which seemed really soupy in that bad over-the-hill timbaland way
This stings that much more b/c he's been hyping his new album as a return to basics, true R&B record. He's doing that thing I hate where artists straight up lie about what their new album is going to be
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
(I actually sorta love his "One in a Million," though, so I can't complain too much about the title-aping, I guess)
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't heard this latest Ne-Yo track yet, but is the R&B trend in 2012 dropping a compelling single and then following it up with a shitty Guetta-esque club track? See also, Usher.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's more like dual-singles than follow-ups
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
and artists have been releasing songs to diff radio formats for years
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah ne-yo's "one in a million" is good but still
I feel like as one of the few listeners who values albums as albums, I'm doubly fucked over by the Guetta-ization of R&B. Because almost without exception, those singles not only suck, but they totally fuck up the flow of an entire album
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
^^^
this.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like I'm the only one around here who likes "Scream".
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's decent, I like a lot of what follows it on the album more tho
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
Still haven't listened to the full album. Can I expect more "Climax" or more "Scream?"
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
song for song, more like the former than the latter, but lots kind of in between.
― some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
I pulled out the album after a two-week hiatus and loved the misshapen, misbegottent thing to bits.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
The Usher album is a $35 bottle of wine with a bunch of little pieces of cork in it you can't fully fish out
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
The extra tracks on the Usher album are the date who helpfully picks out the cork pieces.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
now hearing 'i.f.u' as a seductive address to the prudishly stubborn listener
works
― r|t|c, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I actively dislike a single song on the album, I just don't really unabashedly love any of it either, so when you folks get all on about THESE are the great songs and THESE are the terrible ones it's all greek to me.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:59 (46 minutes ago) Permalink
Yeah, not sure if I'd put it in quite so strong terms but I find this album a really enjoyable straight-through listen, in part because of how it jumps all over the place.
― Tim F, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
I skip around but am too committed to the songs I adore.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
for me tracks 1-7 are mostly worthless and tracks 8-14 are solid (w/ bonus tracks mostly on the good side)
― some dude, Monday, 9 July 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
my two-week hiatus from ~music listening~ made me, uh, forget the usher album existed. don't really feel compelled to go back to any of it tbh
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
the bieber album is basically a better usher album
there are hardly any songs i even want to skip on the nicki album though!
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 9 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
forget the ibiza bloodfarts, but if you can sit thru nicki's inspirational track with drake, nas & young jeezy, you're more barbs than i
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 9 July 2012 23:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark
bollocks it is
― r|t|c, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Hate to throw a new topic into a really vibrant conversation, but K. Michelle dropped a new mixtape today, and it is often exceptional and I want Lex to hear it immediately because I gotta believe he'll really dig it
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
she's got the title right at least
― r|t|c, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
The timing is really interesting (if coincidental) in the wake of the Frank Ocean reveal, since K. Michelle has been openly bi for a while, and she addresses it smartly on the opener: "I done been around the world, slept with some girls, smoked a little weed but that don't define me..."
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
"There are hardly any songs I even want to skip on the Nicki album though!" the alleged attacker was quoted as saying on a message board Monday night. Friends insist he was acting "normal" in the days leading up to Tuesday's incident, which is being considered the worst act of violence against primary school children in London's history.
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
the best songs on the bieber album pass the drunk-on-the-night-bus litmus test of pop easily, the usher album seems more and more try-hard with every listen.
what is the k michelle mixtape called? i can barely download music or watch youtube any more
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Monday, 9 July 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
i've always liked nicki's verse on the inspirational track! but that is, in fact, one of the few songs that i do skip
xp It's called "0 Fucks Given," which is about right.
It's streaming/downloadable here: http://www.thisisrnb.com/2012/07/new-music-k-michelle-0-fcks-given-mixtape/
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Monday, 9 July 2012 23:15 (Yesterday) Permalink
lolled twice.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
considering 90% of what ilm has given a fuck about this year that's practically a recommendation at this point
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:25 (eleven years ago) link
for serious she was talking about ilm?
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:27 (eleven years ago) link
in truth i want to hear the k. michelle mixtape - perennially an artist where my failure to fall head over heels in love feels like a problem with me rather than a problem with the music.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:28 (eleven years ago) link
what?
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
everything i read on the internet atm makes me want to hear no music ever again and talk about nothing that i'm actually listening to
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
i dare you
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/MWVTy.png
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
So K. Michelle definitely picked the wrong day to release her mixtape. Ah well.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
i saw her video about masturbating on MTV Jams today
― some dude, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
of the three r&b things released this week that i listened to today, the wynter gordon ep was the best. bit more straightforward than "stimela" would have had you expecting but still pretty good.
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
the k michelle one has me a bit worried about her tbh, it has its high points but overall has this vibe of someone who missed her moment. what is she doing in a reality tv show and naked on the cover and talking about her ass somuch :(
still better than frank ocean, mind.
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
K Michelle is autotune hell
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
(at least on the first track)
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
please don't listen to this if it's your introduction to her!!!!!
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
her mixtape from a couple of years back, what's the 911, is AMAZING
this is just odds and ends of someone who has no idea what she should be doing
though dan should def hear wynter gordon's "stimela"
http://soundcloud.com/wynter-gordon-doleo/stimela
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
I want to go back to K Michelle but my first impression is "imagine if Keyshia Cole wasn't completely terrible and could sing"
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
okay "Stimela" is great
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
even if it does sounds like it's named after an STD
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like an outtake from So
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
these are my top 5 k michelle joints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH21KcQzI1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCMetckhu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1mhFQjhu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exXltbeIW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRF6inHDMlc
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
"stimela" is the zulu word for locomotive
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
if she would holler less and sing more, she wouldn't be so flat at the end of that performance of "Where They Do That At"
I like her voice a lot, tho
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, there's a just-fucking around quality to a lot of this mixtape, and at 24 tracks it is scattered by nature—definitely a mixtape, not an album—but there are a lot of gems throughout and I'm constantly in awe of her voice and her confidence. I think "Irrelevant" holds its own with most of the tracks Lex posted above, too
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i like "irrelevant" - it was on a previous mixtape tho
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
That Wynter Gordon song is like listening to Dolores O'Riordan from The Cranberries try to sing Drakewave. Ugh.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
am I more out of touch than I thought or does that comment make absolutely no sense
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I do admit part of me was thinking "lol Wynter's backing track is a little like sped-up Frank Ocean" but how do you get any type of Cranberries vibe off of her
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say Shakira.
The track's good.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah, wtf.
I didn't realize her EP was out tho. Gotta check that. "Stimela" is one of my favorite songs this year.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
Could go Cranberries or Shakira, since they both since in half-yodeled Alanis Morissettisms. I went with Cranberries, because I like Cranberries less
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
by that logic you could say Jordin Sparks sounded like Dolores O'Riordan on "No Air"
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
which no one would actually say because it would be super stupid
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
nice
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
It's a lot closer to Dawn than Drake anyways.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah but even the Dawn EP is closer to Drake than some ppl here want to admit
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Guys did you know that everything in this thread is R&B and Drake is R&B ==== you are all listening to DRAKE.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ajKytShi_c
can we least get the correct case study up?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
xp Oh come on; is that seriously what you thought I was suggesting? Do I really have to post side-by-side embeds of "Faith" and "Take Care"? Obviously the two acts share a fair amount of common influences, especially when they are both in their downtempo modes, which is often lately
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Surely the real damning comparison is that Wynter sounds like Y Kant Tori Read (e.g. "Cool on your Island").
But I generally approve of this sound being revived.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
but "cool on your island" is amazing
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Who here hates "Take Care" for its music / general structure?
AFAIK most people dislike Drake for his voice, then his lyrics, then maybe the really really wishy-washy sonics of stuff like "Marvin's Room" (but that is the smallest group of Drake haters).
So invoking Drake as the boogeyman because an R&B tune is all emoto-house seems like missing the point of Drake hate.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah sorry "damning" was meant to be in scare quotes. I agree!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
anyway even a novice like me can hear the afropop foundations of "stimela", from its name to the rhythms and the ululating. this is the track it was based on, it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Bb7p9gggc
and yeah a lot of the rest of the EP is weirdly 90s female singer-songwriter alt-rock which is a GOOD THING, if surprising
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
plenty of actual drake tracks can be made pretty good, even great, by the simple step of Removing Drake, tim otm. not that he's a particularly useful comparison for dawn (especially not "faith"! that's far more in line with that kelis rave album) or wynter (at any point really)
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't trying to use Drake as a pejorative. Armor On just always seemed to me like Dawn's (often smarter, deeper) spin on the same chilly sounds. There's a lot of Kanye West in there, too. She was working from a foundation that those two really popularized.
I don't mind the rest of the Wynter Gordon release—that track rtc posted is ok—"Stimela" just lays on the shrillness and Lion King mysticism way too thick for me
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
chilly electronics in r&b hardly began with drake and kanye though
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
I know. But for better or worse they've led the current zeitgeist
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
i hear tons of '808s & heartbreaks' in dawn's record but then again i don't think that's a bad thing
drake, less so
i was also rather unimpressed w/ that wynter gordon song
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah 'giving in' is my fave track on the thing i must confess
can see where the cranners comparisons come from but that one reminds me most of when britney does it on her album cuts and i luv those
i think it's readily evident and hardly a controversial assertion that we play in a larger, greyer area than the shrillest weekend/drakephobes ever care to admit
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
still kinda sad that my boo wynter sold out tho :/
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i remember she had some bangers back in the post-flo rida days
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
haha i was going to ask if anyone remembers her pre-fame stuff from when she was just another r&b blogfailure but having searched it turns out i have nothing less than a whole folder of 2008 demos on a old hd...? why man why??
btw wiki reveals she goes way back with d'mile who is all over various ddm stuffs
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
inviting anyone who might know to tell me some beautiful lies about how the teairra mari mixtape's worth hearing
― r|t|c, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
someone recommended it to be the other day, i haven't got round to it yet though
"coins" from the other year was such an underrated jam
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
*me
My underrated Teairra jam from the other year was "Body". And her turn on the "Pum Pum Shorts" remix.
okay beautiful lies time: Leaving aside "I Do Like" (exactly what you'd expect) and "Click Flash" and "Mercy" the thing done got this kind of electrik red meets journey vibe, the beyond of beyonce's "dance for you", all power sex ballads, over sung and over produced and lacking in tunes, but sort of in the best one night only way. Check "Another Round" and "Lovemaking" and "U Did That" on this tip.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hey R&B peeps, is there a separate thread for new classic sounding soul & R&B anywhere? Didn't wanna start one if it'd be redundant but also didn't think posting Lee Fields gorgeous "moonlight mile" cover would be appropriate here.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
traditionalist stuff doesn't get a ton of attention itt but it's perfectly welcome when someone does want to talk about it, in my experience
― some dude, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be interested in being exposed to more classic sounding soul. It'd be nice to hear something beyond the one obligatory retro-soul track that is now a staple of every big R&B album
― Evan R, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzfy7aKB9oo
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
^dig this!
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
'wrong side of a love song' is freakin' amazing. actually on some hot buttered soul shit
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, July 13, 2012
Xchuckx and I talk about Lee Fields, some classic soul and current Southern soul (with the tacky sounding synths that many folks hate) over here:
Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes even tim f. will weigh in with a line-dance favorite
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
cross-post from pop thread but this new jojo/shebib single is the shit
serious "promise" vibes
free tape store
http://soundcloud.com/futuresounds-bgr/jojo-demonstrate
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
i was wondering lately what happened to tapestore p
― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
haha
i haven't talked to him in a bit... i should reach out. i think he's really focused on film stuff. miss him tho.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
i can't quite decide on first blushes if that song's kinda underpolished or if it's a persuasive roughness
good though
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
it didn't strike me as immediately amazing but i think it really opens up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
demmmmonnnnnstrrraaaaaatte
also that chunky, stuttery pre-chorus thing is hella 'writing on the wall' or something, i really dig
where are the "promise" vibes? seriously. "promise" is huge and lush, this is...underpolished doesn't even begin to cover it.
this just makes me think about how once again jojo's official singles don't live up to the promise of her unofficial stuff
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
idk mans, personally if it sounds like you can ride a horse to it in super slow-mo with a romantic sense of purpose i file it under promise
defence calls for the world renowned promise arbitrator k3v to resolve this thorny dispute
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
it's a bit static and small-sounding for that imo
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
rtc otm on both accounts
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
defence calls for the world renowned promise arbitrator k3v to resolve this thcorny dispute
― r|t|c, Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:51 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
― dayo, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
haha guys
i dig this definitely, and can see some "promise" in it - the percussion follows a somewhat similar cadence (sorta pushing it tho), and parts of it match the weightlessness of "promise", one of its finer characteristics. the production is a lot sparer, especially in the verses, which i think is what lex is referring to, which makes it feel a little less smooth i guess. good find nonetheless
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:08 (eleven years ago) link
http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/4fec9ea16bb3f76373000010/john-roberts.jpg
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 July 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/images/smilies/smash.gif
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Thursday, 19 July 2012 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ smash.gif
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 July 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link
this is super-dope btw, esp the parts right before the chorus where it goes all double-time just for one line
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 July 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
i really don't like the drum sounds either - they're too loud and they kind of thud in a really unvibey way - cf how light and soft the percussion in "promise" is. iirc this is one of those things that repelled me about the production on take care as well.
and the song is just not there, god, my attention just wanders about 5 times in each verse.
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, 19 July 2012 10:16 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it does need a big breakdown or something, gets a bit circular and anaemic
generally agree about 40 beats but jojo has enough about her to plump it up to an extent so to speak
it's good, flirts with dope, def not super-dope
― r|t|c, Thursday, 19 July 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
It makes me think of "Final Warning" more than "Promise". :O
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 July 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
yeah.... those guitar stutters are def "final warning".... not sure how i didn't place that
i think when the chorus opens up it resembles "promise" a bit
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 19 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
these comparisons to all-time-classics are doing this song absolutely no favours you guys
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 20 July 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link
you know what totally bangs? this robin thicke single
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8f2EYdR3uw
old news i know but it never really caught my ear much when i listened to the album. really suits his voice well
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Friday, 20 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Gonna save myself the embarrassment of trying to embed a Bandcamp track here (can it be done?) and just link to the page, but this Melodie "Classic Love" track strikes me as a better stab at '70s soul than most of the R. Kelly album
http://melodiesoul.bandcamp.com/track/classic-love
― Evan R, Friday, 20 July 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:50 PM Bookmark
Come to think of it, "Demonstrate" might be better than the entire oeuvres of Aaliyah and Ciara combined. Little to do with Jojo, though. It's all the genius of 40 Shebib.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Friday, 20 July 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
this robin t is quite good in his usual sort of way
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Friday, 20 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
evan that melodie song is awesome, gonna download that EP
don't know a thing about time signatures but its pace is great, the thing is just in motion
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Saturday, 21 July 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
it's in 4/4 but it has some nice syncopation
― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Saturday, 21 July 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't notice when jade alston released her video for searching - the song's ok and the video is ok - but she just released a video for Sober which is maybe the best song on the mixtape/ep, along with missing you lately and the intro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZswiRYzmyY&feature=plcp
video is a blast in a budget sort of way, the track is still fire.
uh huh / i do it like this / i get sober by shaking my hips
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 23 July 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
That is really fun; probably the first thing I've seen that sells Jade Alston as an artist a lot of people would be interested in and not just a niche act
― Evan R, Monday, 23 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, I like that song but "R&B as Rich Harrison would know it" seems about as far away from the zeitgeist as possible in 2012, the very definition of niche. This seems a lot closer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShxTG-QoxEA
― The Reverend, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, and as if on cue, Popdust chimes in with an endorsement of "Sober." http://popdust.com/2012/07/23/three-awesome-tracks-jade-alston-cinnamon-girl-hanna/
I do like "Searching," but the crossover appeal on that one is somewhere between zero and three dropped Twitter followers, depending on which scale you're using
― Evan R, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
At least that one sounds like it could get on r&b radio, they like that 40 Shebibified shit. I don't think there's a radio format right now that would go within a football field of "Sober". It sounds like she's trying to do 12% of Electrik Red numbers.
― The Reverend, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
i always thought "bill gates" sounded like the crossover hit in waiting on the alston mixtape
i like "sober" but there's something just a touch awkward about it, like it goes a bit faster than she's comfortable with
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 July 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously. Why are you all debating chart prospects instead of grabbing a hairbrush and chanting along to the bridge. ffs.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 23 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
video is really fun
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
beat is something i'd expect to hear on an azealia record. great chorus tho.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:16 (eleven years ago) link
also sorta reminds me of..... "bleeding love"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:19 (eleven years ago) link
hope everyone has heard that melodie song
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
i listened to it, but i don't know if i heard it.
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
I get the "Bleeding Love" vibe from the chorus, too. Which is great, because I love that song. And I like the way it adds just a little bit of weight and melancholy to an otherwise light song
― Evan R, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 04:07 (eleven years ago) link
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Monday, July 23, 2012 11:37 PM (Yesterday)
you liked the drumming :)
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDghGs_HNiA
i never knew that an r kelly country song was exactly what i wanted
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
WHOA this jeremih off the new mike will mixtape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Ip8dcu-Ok
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 05:38 (eleven years ago) link
mike will is the fucking man
this song is huge. i hope it makes its way out of the mixtape ghetto and gets a full CDQ
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 06:49 (eleven years ago) link
cosigning the melodie song!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
anyone care about the new cody chestnutt album? stuff he's put out so far sounds pretty great
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't know about it! Def interested. Looks like he's trying to bak roll it on kickstarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/codychesnutt/cody-chesnutt-landing-on-a-hundred
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 26 July 2012 04:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah... the song posted on the kickstarter page is good but not as good as this one http://gawker.com/5929061/todays-song-+-cody-chesnutt-thats-still-mama
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 26 July 2012 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
Cool track.
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 26 July 2012 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
I unexpectedly dig the new JoJo track "Demonstrate."
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
it's awesome!
we talked about it somewhere else too
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
rolling pop
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
here too upthread
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 31 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh my god it's R&B mixtape Hanukkah! So many new pretty good mixtapes this week I can't keep up with all of them! This is a great problem to have, obviously. Excited to play catchup.
Here's what we got, if y'all wanna check some of them out and help me out with recs:
Chantel - Back in the Day: Brandy/Aaliyah-ish, sounds nice at first grazeMateo - Suite 823: Sounds like dude's best work yet, but will that be enough to make people care about him?Lucille Ghatti - High Grade: Outsider, Jhene-esque stuff that doesn't hide behind fogginessVaughn Anthony - Life of a Player: John Legend's beefcake brother; he's fun in a Bobby V wayI/O - Isolation: Maybe Fortebowie-ish? Only better? I dunno, digging it
― Evan R, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
And some YouTubes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNKH9fL7Ekw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av4iAallwbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWkalOYjeBE
― Evan R, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
And oh my lord!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56wb27z8kPo
― Evan R, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
Need to listen to all of these, but finally listening to K. Michelle's 0 Fucks Given, and it's a mixed bag but there's still a lot of promise here. Even the first track, 'U Gonna Learn Today' is 100% her. Even at the most shambolic, she's got a clearly defined persona and that goes a long way.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
think i saw c&d recently refer to her as "hoodrat lounge singer k michelle", which naturally i very much enjoyed
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
she's not even entertainingly ratchet tho anyway
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
am hearing this delivered in increasingly sober tones followed by a long pause and single gunshot sound
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
lmao
― i'm a housewife, an artist, and a snow leopard (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
mateo song is really good
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
lol the guy at the beginning of that chantel song is really going for timbaland on "are you that somebody" huh
isn't "suite 823" the name of that fader blog
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
ha, sorry for the over the top enthusiasm; I'd been anticipating some of these mixtapes for a while. The Lucille Ghatti is sounding more to me like the gem of the bunch to me; it's so spry and sexy and has so much fun playing with expectations
― Evan R, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crrOl0egI00
Have we talked about the new Ne-Yo? Between 'Lazy Love' which was a solid [7] in his comfort zone, and this - which isn't a Dawn Richard track or anything, but shows that he still knows how to do dance/R&B better than most people - I'm almost convinced that the new record is going to be worth paying attention to.
After Year of the Gentleman, Libra Scale was so disappointing but... is it wrong to anticipate that we might get some gems from the r.e.d. album or whatever it's called?
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
eh
― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
fair enough. :/
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 August 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
yeah recycling the title of the song that put him on the map is pretty eyebrow-raising, but i agree that Ne-Yo deserves a lot more leeway in leaning into dance than most (ymmv but "Closer" and "Give Me Everything" were both in my top 10 for the years they came out, and i like this a lot too).
― now there's a lot of bad bitches in the building (am0n) (some dude), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
:(
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
as much as I hate to say it, "Let's Go" >
New Jhené produced by FIsticuffs <3 <3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivTgMNqZc80
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 9 August 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
I like this more than anything on her last mixtape. More artists should work with Fisticuffs.
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 August 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
She is too pretty to be an effective J-horror ghost, though.
― Evan R, Thursday, August 9, 2012 3:49 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
[tasteless chris brown joke]
― some dude, Thursday, 9 August 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
heh
― REV LION (The Reverend), Sunday, 12 August 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.soulculture.co.uk/music-blog/newmusic/free-downloads/rochelle-jordan-pressure-free-album-stream-download/#axzz23e4jFXEY
feeling this rochelle jordan album (free d/l) a lot - kind of airy, spacious, dreamy stuff that's a bit goapele, a bit jhené aiko but with that amel larrieux sense of physicality that prevents it from being as inconsequential as aiko
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
did anyone else hear the elle varner album? i quite like it on one listen but...she and jade alston have really similar voices and i can't help but think that whenever i want to hear it i'll end up going to alston.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
oh and there was some nice stuff on the jeremih mixtape but maybe my expectations were too high for that track specifically, i was a bit underwhelmed by "773 love"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
The Rochelle Jordan album was a little uneventful for my tastes.
I can only handle the Elle Varner album in bits and pieces; the Macy Gray-ness of her voice makes it a small-doses only proposition. Songs are OK, but a little on the cutesy end. She teases cutting lose but never does
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 August 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
JHENE AIKO "3:16AM" looks and sounds like it belongs on an episode of Teen Wolf.
(http://www.zzstream.com/2011/07/teen-wolf-season-1-episode-8-lunatic.html)
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 16 August 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
Varner LP is so consistently great-sounding that i'm actually warming to her over-the-top vocals (Macy Gray-ness is an odd description, though)
― some dude, Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
The Jeremih mixtape owns my world.
― (professor) (longneck), Thursday, 16 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
ships can u expand on "great-sounding"
ima need more if you're to be trusted on this
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
Varner is in my long "stuff Andy K likes so I'll assume it's good" list.
― Tim F, Thursday, 16 August 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
― ticagrelor rotini (k3vin k.), Thursday, 16 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
kinda lolling at this 'sound proof room' beat on the varner, sounds like the heatmakerz quickly ran in to mess with it while the og producers back was turned
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
ohh wait is andrew "pop" wansel going to be the son of...... yep
idk how i feel about that
― r|t|c, Thursday, 16 August 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
production is just dope as fuck is all i mean -- can't say much in detail on one listen but if it was, like, jazmine sullivan or someone that good on vox it'd be like album of the year material
― some dude, Friday, 17 August 2012 01:30 (eleven years ago) link
I was crushing hard on varner's mixtape
― kanye shiwen (dayo), Friday, 17 August 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
JB3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzIPPKPtAJ8
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 17 August 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
This Kingdom edit of Put It Down that removes Chris Brown from the track is making me pretty happy right now:
http://www.hulkshare.com/d9r6gcxj7hfk
― I don't even know wtf this band sounds like I'm just trollin (fffv), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
<3 kingdom
― jack chick-fil-A (dayo), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
New Trey songz: way too much moisture on the opening tracks.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 08:00 (eleven years ago) link
~~~~~~~~~~~splash~~~~~~~~~~
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 11:33 (eleven years ago) link
So why isn't there even a tracklist or an album cover for Love IV MMXII yet?
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
cause the single ain't doing shit and it got pushed back to Neveruary?
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
Right. But it's still a bit too late in the day for them to be hoping for charting solo singles from Terius. From what I've seen the album has been finished for a while, so just letting it sit there isn't gonna help.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
which is how this story has played out dozens of times before, yes.
new Dwele album is nice.
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
Hot damn, there's a new Dwele album?
The new Trey Songz is a mixed bag, some nice stuff but some of his gaudiest stuff, too. A big step down from PP&P.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
trey songz spending so much of the new album trying to be r kelly was kinda surprising
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
like r kelly circa tp2 not r kelly now
his petulant "i am NOT influenced by R. Kelly and R. Kelly sucks anyway" routine is the really the worst thing about him
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
The new Trey Songz is a mixed bag,
it sounds good on the radio but I never want to hear it on my own
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
"Heart Attack" is the shit, but those other singles don't do much for me. Big step down from "Can't Be Friends" "Love Faces" and maybe even "Unusual"
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
i would definitely take all 3 of the new one's singles over "Friends" and "Love Feces"
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
xp He talked this big game about making a really great R&B album, but then made a sort of stupid R&B. Which is frustrating, because I think he has the talent to make a truly classic album, but his tastes are just so all over the place.
And the adult-contemporary treatment on "Simply Amazing" just ticks me off. At least make the ballads jam.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
Trey tries to be R. Kelly but fails miserably at it. Kells would never sing that he only came for "the bitches and the drink" - that's just middle of the road machismo. If you're gonna be ridiculous, be sublimely ridiculous. Terius and Kells both know this.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
haw i didn't know he was spinning this line
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
The anxiety of influence is remarkably strong in latter-day r&b.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
thing is i'm fine with the trey album being what it is (ie fine, probably at its best when he's being all generic "bitches and the drink") b/c i've never bought into him as an artist of whom i should expect any more, despite the 4-5 songs on PP&P on which he hit some really great heights
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I was definitely hoping for more of those heights. Top Of The World was great too.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
Unfortunate and Blind were my favorites from PPP. He's not even trying on this one.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
i'm kind of glad he didn't really go down that ~dark~ route any more, it's a bit of a lazy option
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
Lazy how? The title track on this new one is pretty nice though.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
bc it's so obviously trendy
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Well when PPP came out, Pre-Weeknd, Unfortunate and Blind really stood out. The Shebib production on Unfortunate was "trendy" perhaps, but the song was better than any of Drake's at the time, and Blind really doesn't sound like anything else. I guess what I'm really missing this time around is Bei Maejor. Some proper songs.
― (professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 21 August 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
i spoke too soon, hadn't seen this! http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1691751/trey-songz-r-kelly.jhtml
kinda heartwarming, actually, bless 'em
― some dude, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
Ha ha.
The new Brandy is nice.http://www.digitaldripped.com/aug/21/2012/brandy--wildest-dreams
― (professor) (longneck), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link
Soundcloud link: http://soundcloud.com/4everbrandy/wildest-dreams-audio
― (professor) (longneck), Wednesday, 22 August 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
lol Dwele says "smang" on this album, also references Faygo in the song about Detroit
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
Trey's album has an "Interlewd" to echo Miguel's "Enter.lewd" tracks
― some dude, Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:50 (eleven years ago) link
wait how have we not talked about alicia keys going all ciara/rihanna
http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/alicia-keys-reveals-girl-on-fire-album-cover-1007884152.story#/column/the-juice/alicia-keys-reveals-girl-on-fire-album-cover-1007884152.story
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
that album cover is hella keri hilson
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
Yikes, that Keyes album cover looks like a CK ad. I think I stop paid attention to her latest albums cycle after hearing a couple seconds of the first song from it.
This new Antonique Smith song is very sweet and pretty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE-R7dZg6xE
― Evan R, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
i talked about alicia keys on twitter. jamie xx is on the album, i think keys is a good match for him
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
isn't the only new AK song out so far just the solo version of the terrible 50 Cent single she's on? i don't really blame her for that, she's probably just got it on her record in case it turns out big like "Empire State of Mind" (which it won't, obv). i think she might have something good up her sleeve, i dunno.
― some dude, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
is it? i have no idea
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 August 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
well that's what "New Day" is. "Girl On Fire" is supposed to drop in the next few days.
― some dude, Thursday, 30 August 2012 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh.
yeah you probably would have to give me 3 cases of vitamin water before i listened to a 50/dre/alicia song in 2012.
― young money color me badd (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 August 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of a shame 50 let everyone overdose on schadenfreude with the Kanye sales war in '07 because really it's been just hilarious to watch him flail the last 5 years
― some dude, Thursday, 30 August 2012 02:58 (eleven years ago) link
"new day" isn't bad, it's not exciting or anything though
― lex pretend, Thursday, 30 August 2012 06:42 (eleven years ago) link
it would feel a bit weird for alicia keys to drop a front-to-back awesome album at this point in her career, she's made so many individual songs that i love but i don't count any of her albums as great
I don't know. If she just discovered sex I guess everything is possible.
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link
er
― some dude, Thursday, 30 August 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry. Just mildly interested AND put off by this whole "being unleashed" turn. It sounds a bit desperate. I'm not sure if I'm up for an even more melodramatically intense AK. But also it would be good thing if it means she's letting go a little, you know?
― insane in my mansplain (longneck), Thursday, 30 August 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I don't think she really has persona to sell an unleashed album. She's so cold and businesslike it would be like, I don't know, hearing Bebe Neuwirth sing Rihanna songs or something
― Evan R, Thursday, 30 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
xposts but I am pretty disappointed by the Elle Varner album. Nothing here is as good as the Oak and Pop songs on Conversational Lush: "Ghosts", "Go" and even "WTF" are some of my favorite songs of the year. I'm not sure if she tried to consciously smooth out her edges or what, but I find a lot of these songs pretty superficial and same-sounding.
― scarfs, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
that alicia keys single is pretty bad. like how many clichés does she want to cram into the thing? pity, minaj's verse on the remix is one of the more interesting things she's done
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't really end up going back to varner's album much
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
"Girl on Fire" is already getting a ton of radioplay here, and seems to have all the trappings of a big single. Alicia Keys is such an out of place presence on that song that it's really hard to listen to it, though
― Evan R, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
think people itt will dig this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcVLk-o2nlc&feature=player_embedded
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
diggin it
― dayo, Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
i was clearly very wrong for being optimistic about new AK, "Girl On Fire" is the worst garbage ever
― tylerw, the creatorw (some dude), Thursday, 13 September 2012 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
wow, it really is as bad as you all say. also it makes me think of Kings Of Leon. :(
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 September 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
i heard "No One" the other day and it was depressing to now have something to positively compare it to
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link
word
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
I like "No One" fine. She's had worse singles before and after.
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
she's done worse than "No One" but i mean "Girl" is a really poor version of the same template
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:15 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, and I swear the vocals and instrumental were recorded without any knowledge of the other.
― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Thursday, 13 September 2012 04:21 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALKvHo7tWA
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
i hate to be that herb who does this around this time of year, but i've fallen really behind on new music. can the real players itt give me their 5-10 favorite r&b albums of 2012? thanks in advance
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
for me it's roughly: Melanie Fiona > Art Dealer Chic > Elle Varner > Dawn Richard > Jeremih > Monica > Kalenna > Usher > Frank Ocean > Dwele
― some dude, Thursday, 13 September 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
1. Frank Ocean - Channel Orange2. Miguel - Art Dealer Chic3. Melanie Fiona - MF Life4. Dawn Richard - Armor On5. Jade Alston - Single on a Saturday Night6. Jeremih - Late Nights7. K. Michelle - 0 Fucks Given8. Usher - Looking 4 Myself9. Lucille Ghatti - High Grade10. Teyana Taylor - The Misunderstanding of Teyana Taylor
― Evan R, Thursday, 13 September 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
I like the Kevin Cossom 'Hook VS Bridge II' freebie quite a bit.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 14 September 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah cosign it's pretty dece
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 September 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
There should be a yearly R&B critics' poll, right?
Who would host it?
― Andy K, Monday, 17 September 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
DO NOT CLICK AALIYAH ATLANTIC ARTICLEDO NOT CLICK AALIYAH ATLANTIC ARTICLEDO NOT CLICK AALIYAH ATLANTIC ARTICLE
― Andy K, Monday, 17 September 2012 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
oh i must read
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 September 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
Gah, I clicked. The worst kind of connect-the-dots trend pieces. It reads like it was stitched together from Google Alerts for "Aaliyah."
― Evan R, Monday, 17 September 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
*is drawn to the flame**perishes*
― barthes simpson, Monday, 17 September 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
Take dubstep, which grew up in South London around the same time her 1996 breakout, One in a Million, was climbing its way up the US charts. English DJs, fusing 2-step with 30-year-old Jamaican recordings to create a darker strain of garage music, had little to do with her or Timbaland, the mastermind behind much of that album. But both undertakings shared a fairly radical philosophy that (among other things) saw sampling as a fundamental tool. Musicians have borrowed one another's inventions since the first caveman learned to whistle, but few until then laid entire foundations for songs with such small bricks salvaged so far afield. That mewing baby in "Are You That Somebody?"? It's the sole element Timbaland lifted from an obscure 1966 track by electronic pioneers Perrey and Kingsley.
― barthes simpson, Monday, 17 September 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Ah, I remember 1996 well. Staying up late to watch MTV's Amp premiere the latest dubstep tracks.... those were the days.
― Evan R, Monday, 17 September 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
waht is a micole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=basq-Is_1XU&feature=watch_response
― johnny crunch, Friday, 21 September 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/iamlyricaanderson/sets/king-me/
this tape is what's up
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 10:03 (eleven years ago) link
ooh she did a good hook on the na'tee mixtape
*clicks*
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 10:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hOq_J0lldY
fake mmts sillyness but on a beat like this i'm always down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGUGPuUGW2w
agreeable dippy trifle biz, prod danja
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRnTtpVDL90
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
when i saw the phrase 'fake mmts' i thought for sure the yt would be the marcus canty single
― some dude, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
the lyrica anderson is fantastic! love her pillowy vox on "10 minutes", love "surrender", love the someone-just-excavated-timbaland's-2003-vaults feel of "vampire"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
new lloyd (the version on spotify is wale-free tho)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-CNKdysXpo
not reinventing the wheel but i just love his voice SO MUCH
― maura, Friday, 28 September 2012 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't listen to that last album enough. a lot of good songs on there. i probably erred in not top 10-ing it.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 28 September 2012 06:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, i loved that record a lot. also his christmas song from last year is probably one of the best new christmas songs of the past decade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1aGyy6s298
― maura, Friday, 28 September 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
the one thing i remember about that album is thinking that it was 2 chainz first big major label placement
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 28 September 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link
he was even still tity boi at that point!
― some dude, Friday, 28 September 2012 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
This was a total gem off his last one, from the deluxe versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWQsIulJxR4the snare <3
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
Still think it's a crime that "Private Dancer" didn't make that record.
― Evan R, Friday, 28 September 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
wow, had no idea there WAS a deluxe version, much less one w/ a title track! great stuff
― some apparently virulent and long-running ilx dude (some dude), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:28 (eleven years ago) link
"Bang!!!!" is a really weird song. I'm 90% sure it was a rejected Trey Songz track, because that Salo rapper calls Lloyd "Trigger" in her verse. It's really distracting.
― Evan R, Friday, 28 September 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
that's one of the best songs on the record imo
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
"giddy up horsey, I'ma show you how I ride it, Trigger" is a reference to Roy Rogers's horse Trigger, rap genius
― some apparently virulent and long-running ilx dude (some dude), Friday, 28 September 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
damn that's old school
― Number None, Friday, 28 September 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
Al! Awesome!
― Evan R, Friday, 28 September 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
― some apparently virulent and long-running ilx dude (some dude), Friday, September 28, 2012 5:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
All three tracks are awesome imo
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 28 September 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
yeah 'bang' is definitely one of my favorite tracks
when i interviewed him he was very mysterious about who exactly salo was
― maura, Friday, 28 September 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
I really like Physical Therapy's remix of "Lay It Down" http://soundcloud.com/physical-therapy/lay-it-down-physical-therapy
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure Salo was someone's brain-damaged grandmother who had spent a year with nothing but a Minaj mixtape from which to relearn the English language
― overglorified male ani difrancos i have pwned (some dude), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
So... Iggy Azalea?
― Evan R, Friday, 28 September 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 28 September 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
[...]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ca6huu_aaA
― Andy K, Thursday, 4 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
interested in what some of y'all think of this
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/14386-house-of-spirits/
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
i really really really liked 'naked' from that lloyd album and i was surprised no one ever talked about it. v nice vintage polow
― Jacques_Lamure, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
we talked a lot about it iirc, i think lloyd had his own thread
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
Naked is a total jam.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
new ne-yo album has a tim mcgraw feature on it
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 5 October 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
also first track is indeed called "cracks in mr. perfect"
Is that Merrill Garbus on the Janet cover?
― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, October 5, 2012 2:53 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha you know that this was the original announced album title, right? it's actually kind of reassuring that there's a song behind that title, just it by itself was so smh
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
um... some dude... wtf is going on with the R&B chart? why is Rihanna's "Diamonds" suddenly #1?
― (whose paintings looked like (pink) vaginas) (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
ha i was just about to come to this thread to gripe about that
basically the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart has tradtionally been mostly airplay + physical single sales, so if a nominal R&B song (by, say, Rihanna) did well on iTunes and pop radio but not actual R&B stations, it wouldn't make much of an impact on the R&B chart. but as of this week, iTunes is a factor on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop like it has been on the Hot 100 for years, so now suddenly "Diamonds" is #1, and there's now a R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay chart which is basically what the main chart used to be, and on that "Adorn" is #1 and "Diamonds is #61.
this is massively fuck up whatever confidence R&B stations and labels had left to not cater to pop crossover imo. horrible move by Billboard.
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
And now Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs is 50 deep instead of 100.
25-deep R&B Songs chart now, too.
― Andy K, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
R&B Songs and Rap Songs will serve as 25-position distillations of the overall Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, highlighting the differences between pure R&B and rap titles in the overall, wide-ranging R&B/hip-hop field.
Eleven of the 25 songs on R&B Songs feature rappers, so "pure R&B" must mean songs with an R&B artist as only or lead voice.
― Andy K, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
Make that 10, not 11.
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― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
excuse me while I find a corner to curl up into the fetal position and cry in
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
rev's "Itunes destroyed Black American pop music" rant on twitter a few months ago was so righteous that i saved it in a doc, tempted to just post it right now
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
post it! i missed it!
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
i'd have to clean it up and re-order it for it to make sense, but here's the short version he put on tumblr: http://reverenddollars.tumblr.com/post/24446685357/positing-not-claiming
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
ha i saw that, think i favourited it somewhere
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
I've gone on at least a couple such extended twitter rants. Been meaning to start a thread on the subject here and I think I will now. Please post whatever you saved.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh wow, part of my gripe about this was going to be that the Country charts didn't get the same treatment but they did -- Taylor Swift leaps from #21 to #1 on the revamped download-heavy Country chart. fucking Billboard, putting nails in the coffin of terrestrial radio formats' ability to make hits.
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
would quite like to hear about the role itunes is playing in this - that's not in the tumblr & i don't really know
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
Wonder if (the very good, all-R&B) Two Eleven has a shot at the Top Ten of the Billboard 200. "Put It Down": 70-76-72 last three weeks on Hot 100 and 16-5-3 last three weeks on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop. Doesn't really bode well.
― Andy K, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
2 columns that chris molanphy and i wrote about r&b's hot 100 decline that get into how itunes changed things:
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2011/05/chris_brown_look_at_me_now_hot_100.php
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/07/sales_slump_usher_chris_brown.php
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
i read both of those at the time - they were great and i think i may have linked one in my independent r&b piece - but what is it about itunes that means it's an inefficient driver of r&b? it's so geared towards casual/spontaneous consumption that it inherently privileges pop?
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
whereas radio-driven r&b is dependent on gatekeepers to an extent?
those might be factors but the more simple truth is just that demographically speaking the songs and artists that get chart boosts from iTunes sales, particularly single sales, strongly skew pop and not urban
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Itunes, Billboard, and the marginalization of black music and black audiences in America
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
what's the word on the new brandy album
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
I like it. It feels too long and a bit old fashioned but it's mostly good stuff. The Mike Will one is probably my favorite. I'll need to digest it some more though. Just listened to it today.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i heard a few cuts on the radio last night and only the mike will one stood out
― some dude, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
I'm halfway through it and it sounds really nice on first listen. "So Sick" sounded like vintage Terius/Tricky to me; I never would have thought that was a Bangladesh track
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
Washington Post freelancer says in part:
Although commercial R&B is deep in the throes of a love affair with dance-pop, Brandy returns to the sort of sweet, earnest R&B she put out when she was barely a teenager. There are a few tracks that work as up-tempo radio singles, including the fizzy, burbling Chris Brown collaboration “Put It Down,” and the Bangladesh-produced “Let Me Go,” which samples Swedish singer Lykke Li, but most of the album is a showcase for Brandy’s powerful, gusty voice.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/brandy-two-eleven-album-review/2012/10/15/d2736414-159d-11e2-bf18-a8a596df4bee_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
"put it down" is pretty eh but i will always give brandy a shot
― jon and kate catch h8 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
Brandy's voice is remarkable, but that Lykke Li song is aural vomit
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
i've liked "put it down" in the right context. kingdom's no breezy edit was nice and it sounded awesome when brenmar dropped it for a bit in a set i saw.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
brenmar is probably the one usa dj of that ilk i'll give daps to
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i had an utter blast when i saw him last month
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
xp my eyes just rolled so hard i had to go across the street to collect them
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link
brandy album was alright on one listen, but it didn't draw me in as much as human or afrodisiac
vocally she's sounding really fantastic these days though
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
it's also another weird one where your attention perks up when the bonus tracks arrive
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:38 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which djs do u like?
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
i've never been able to get into brandy albums. her voice is def v goo/singular but idk it doesn't grab me.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.eastlondonlines.co.uk/ell_wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Norwood_Junction_stn_signage_2010.jpg
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
recently i attended a dinner party near norwood junction and as per usual was so late and disorganised that i forgot to put the nice wine i'd bought into my bag, and tweeted to this effect. cue defensive south "londoners" telling me that they do have shops down here you know.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link
all i'm saying is, i didn't see any
This Neva End remix is pretty fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR1M-CaZV-4
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link
He is being blatantly dorky and uncool. It compliments his usual overly sincere thing more than it contradicts it, I think.
Yeah, she's always been someone who when I've liked her, I've liked strictly for the songs, never as an entity really. I look forward to hearing this one tho, even though I don't like the single much.
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Tuesday, October 16, 2012 3:51 PM Bookmark
Americans in a similar style to Brenmar? In rough order of how good they were when I saw them:
Jubilee (if you have the chance to see her, just go. played a bunch of vibe music, a snap miniset (!), original and vogue remixes of "Long Heels Red Bottoms", and like infinite Trina besides that. talked to her for a min afterwards and she said she was playing just for me <3<3<3)SPF666 (total unknown from PDX who was playing his own Jersey club remixes of all my favorite tracks, I went so hammer)Total FreedomJacques Greene (not an American but CA counts for these purposes. peak moment: looping the horns from the opening of "Speechless" for like a full minute before dropping the DUET version)KingdomSamo Sound BoyDave QuamSalva (set was kind of inconsistent, would be awesome for ten mins, kind of lame for ten mins, still worth seeing tho)Nguzunguzu (crowd was sparse and wack - they should have played a smaller venue)Jerome LOL (played good stuff but was at this outdoor park venue that had been taken over by crusties and burner types and was ruined by this terrible local hiphop dj sent to do a dance dj's job who played before him)
I haven't actually seen Brenmar though, his last Seattle gig got canceled.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
mm, that's nice dear
brandy alb is not bad but not good nor in truth acceptable either. fuckin itunes
'slower', 'do you know what you have', 'scared of beautiful', 'paint this house' are the picks i guess
lord spare me from ever hearing another bilious bangladesh beat
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
why is all this production so bloody wishy washy standoffish
match her, fight her, put some fucking drama into it
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
bite me?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
i just read that brandy pretty much disowned human :(
which is a much better album than this
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
i really did think brandy was gonna bring it on this for some reason
You guys are being hella hard on a pretty good album
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
I guess that's what Brandy gets for a smart marketing campaign that created big expectations for this LP, but I think the album mostly sounds nice and it's likely to hold up pretty well
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
"a smart marketing campaign that created big expectations for this LP" = putting Chris Brown on the single so radio would play it?
― some dude, Wednesday, 17 October 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
Ann Powers talks to old-school critic Nelson George re the gender makeup of r'n'b live show audiences; low voices and falsetto, and more. Kinda interesting
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2012/10/17/163095398/for-the-ladies-r-kelly-teddy-pendergrass-and-the-state-of-r-b
― curmudgeon, Friday, 19 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
wait a minute, there are going to be 20 new episodes of "trapped in the closet"?
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
welcome to hell
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
more "authentic" artists like, say, Brandy or Trey Songz.
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 October 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
The problem is with the "authenticity" tag in the first place, imo. It has ridden black music like a mare for some time now. Either something works or it doesn't. I'd gladly fawn over Chris Brown eurodance&b if it had been any good. (It is also part of the problem I have with the noz piece.) I do think ship managed to work around it though.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Friday, 19 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
That Ann Powers interview briefly speaks to an alienation I've often felt at R&B shows as a guy (and to a lesser extent, I suppose, as a straight guy). It's weird seeing this music that speaks to me really deeply played as burlesque or some kind of Chip N Dale routine. I can appreciate the entertainment of it all—and I don't doubt its effectiveness, since it makes the audience go nuts—but it does create an uncomfortable distance for me.
― Evan R, Friday, 19 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
haha oh trust me, I will gladly walk 4 extra blocks every time if I can manage a route that doesn't take me down Authenticity Boulevard
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm, that article is interesting cause it ties into this conversation me and my mom had recently where she was saying she's always found falsetto lovermen comical (this was specifically when Ron Isley{!} was playing) and only found deep-voiced singers like Barry White or Luther Vandross sexy.
I, otoh, get all weak-kneed for falsettos though.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
*braces self for discussions with acquaintances who check Trapped but "Oh? Huh" at mention of regular R. Kelly album released the same year*
Chip 'n' Dale, Chippendale, or both?
some dude OTM.
― Andy K, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Friday, October 19, 2012 3:11 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol plight of straight male?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
rescue rangers
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
Privileged marginalized thirtysomething straight married white male R&B listening party at my house (once kids are asleep, obv)
― Andy K, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
invite me! (but i'm twenty-something)
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that doesn't bother me at all personally. so much popular music is about some man glorifying their own ego and self-image, whether it's in an explicitly sexual way or just a showboating technical way, that when it is sexual it's like ok bro it's all good, i can get into the loverman mindset as a listener even if i'm prob not literally using that bedroom music in the bedroom.
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
Al OTM. Great post
― Evan R, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, yes, but in my defense, I grew up on indie rock, so I am used to music explicitly speaking to me, often to the exclusion of everybody else
― Evan R, Saturday, 20 October 2012 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
When Booby Valentino was opening for Miguel and taking his shirt off during the first song I was thinking,he needs a manager to tell him to wait till the final song to do that. Build things up like the old-school soul guys
― curmudgeon, Monday, 22 October 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, Bobby.
man i'd kill to see a bobby v/miguel bill
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
practically every other act miguel has toured w/ lately has been better though
― my mansplain songz (some dude), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
who? (i don't know)
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
he was just here w/ 2 chainz and is coming back with trey songz and elle varner in a few weeks
― my mansplain songz (some dude), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
lol RCA has been buying up 5-minute blocks of airtime on a couple local stations to play Brandy's new single -- is this that smart marketing campaign that created big expectations for the LP?
ha; I stand by my smart marketing campaign comment. There was more excitement and anticipation around this Brandy album than there's been around a Brandy album in a long time. Largely because it had a cool lead single, yes, but I like the way the LP was teased as a comeback LP of sorts, without the desperation that usually implies
― Evan R, Monday, 22 October 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
brandy album's gonna do aight tho
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
people missed brandy - a reasonably reliable artist - and the r&b game is garbage right now. there was nothing else at play
way to pretend forget about that brandy/monica reunion abortion too
― r|t|c, Monday, 22 October 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah lol @ that
― my mansplain songz (some dude), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
brandy had more tastemaker hype than most older trad-r&b artists too - even with cut-up r&b vox being so dominant in hipster dance last year it still seemed like every second big track sampled brandy specifically
plus there's a weird residual affection for her among 90s kids that i think might stem from moesha
― lex pretend, Monday, 22 October 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
(like i'm not sure if, say, mya or ashanti or even ciara inspires quite the same affection as brandy)
― lex pretend, Monday, 22 October 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
ashanti & ciara were later
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Monday, 22 October 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
have we not done this keke palmer tape, it's pretty great for nowadays standards
did not expect frequent overwrought meandering straining against skyscraper beats drama, v baby dawn richardesque indeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJrb9_zSnL8
this the best though
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
'so uncool' was a great teenpop&b album. glad to see she's still making music.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i need to listen to that again, vaguely remembering 'game song' now and maybe some mini dawn richard was always kinda in her but underproduced
iirc the really disney teenpoppy stuff on there felt kinda tacked on, there was this kernel of truth with her and whatshername... tiffany evans where they seemed pretty much more grown up than most "adult" r&b at the time
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
actually haha wasnt it tiffany evans who later kept popping up deploring the whores of r&b babylon or whatever
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE2XfyVbc0c
i think this was my fave cut on that, perhaps somewhat embarrassingly
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
so dramatical though!
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
I like the new one alright, "baby dawn richardesque" otm
She may have broken the record for body rolls per minute in this Dance Alone video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqgiI5_NRXI
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh that video makes me like the song less
i wonder if beyonce is the culprit that anyone else dancing looks so passé http://i.imgur.com/S6udB.gif
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
Video is super lame. Maaaaybe to your second point, Janet before her?
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
huh i never thought of keke in the dawn line previously - she's always seemed fairly chameleonic to me, from the ultimate summer jam that was "keep it moving" to the lil baby like a boy outrage of "the game song" to jumping on the brief jerk wagon (to tremendous effect) with "superjerkin". i quite liked "show me" from last year, don't think it ever got released but i got some scherzinger vibes iirc. anyway i like "dip 2nite", haven't listened to the rest of the latest tape though
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1rlrwq3_OI
>>>>
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
hurt me to my heart to find out the origins of that beat
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 1 November 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah that song is way better. New tape didn't impress me much overall.
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 2 November 2012 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
neither of those really grabbing me
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 November 2012 14:42 (eleven years ago) link
Ne-Yo made an r&b song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFB6eyNHz0A
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Friday, 2 November 2012 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
real nice
― tpp, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
new dawn : http://cosmicmediaworld.com/qdcey66korv8
― sisilafami, Friday, 2 November 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
there are two songs on the radio right now about diving into vaginas
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
i definitely fuck w/ the kelly/wayne redux
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Monday, 5 November 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
'too close' and 'turn on the lights'?
― r|t|c, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQHhccp24Bk
^^^baaaangs imo. "name on it" was nice too
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
finally listening to the Brandy album, not bad. weird to realize that the ballad off her '08 album was one of the earliest (maybe first?) charting writing credits for both Bruno Mars and Jeff Bhasker.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link
angie stone released an album a couple of months ago apparently, did no one notice? it's quite nice, gets better as it goes on and settles into its groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PsFG2GJYAs
"i can't take it" is another standout, not on youtube
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
i've never had a reason to notice Angie Stone before, tbh.
listening to the Ne-Yo, lol @ him opening the album w/ would-be title track "The Cracks In Mr. Perfect"
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha spoken word outro "find the beauty in your cracks...enjoy the album"
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
find the beauty in your crack
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link
exactly one (1) dance song on the Ne-Yo besides "Let Me Love You." it's an R&B album, and a good one.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha i said that as the last song started downtempo, and then right after i posted the beat picked up
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
i am OK with the thing this and the last Kelly Rowland did of letting the album end w/ 2 dance tracks as its own distinct thing, though. as long as it's just 2 and not 8 or whatever like the Nicki album.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't heard the new one yet, but there was only one (1) dance song on Ne-Yo's last, otherwise very delightful album, and it was enough to almost fuck up the whole thing
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
this album >>>> libra scale imo
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
My problem with post-Gentleman Ne-Yo is that he no longer sees any continuity between dance music and R&B. On YOTG he wove dance music into R&B, but since then he's seen things only in black and white. Every song is either all seduction or all glow sticks.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
(and it doesn't help that his dance songs suck on their own merits, of course)
"let me love you" feels like a relatively graceful fusion to me, if not as convincing as "closer"
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
been listening to the radio more the past few weeks than i have in a long time and i haven't heard "let me love you" at all. small sample of course but it's crazy that he's almost totally a pop artist now.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah, that song wasn't even sent to R&B stations, I'm just saying musically it's got enough R&B for me. the problem is more that "Lazy Love" isn't remotely as popular w/ urban stations as "Let Me" is w/ pop stations.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
'problem' in the sense that "Lazy Love" is lame and deserves to underperform, not that it's being done any injustice as a song
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
'don't make em like you' features probably the most upsettingly maladroit spinback efx i've ever heard. nice tune tho
album is decent, better than the anaemic libra scale, but nothing spesh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm more registering my surprise at it being just fine than waving the 'return to form' flag. tim mcgraw song is dope, though.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
but it's crazy that he's almost totally a pop artist now.
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 15:47 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
idk besides the money and the fame it seems obvious that being a pop star is just more sport for him? when he does his own r&b songs these days they're always really good but the "did this in 10 minutes w/o breaking a sweat" vibe is ineluctable. if r&b upped its game then so would he but whatever in the meantime
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, it kind of seems like R&B did up its game, and Ne-Yo is the one who is stagnant. I mean, Usher made his "Climax," where's his?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
^^^this is, btw, almost verbatim what he said in a listening sesh i attended /braggin xp
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
he wants to be a pop star, that is
he obv meant commercially, though (and "Let Me Love You" peaked on the Hot 100 higher than "Climax") xpost
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
he also had a lot of positive things to say about working w/ tim mcgraw & about country music fans & how they support their artists in general
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
that said i really liked the song abt getting head
no i more meant artistically really, i am still a believer that the commerce (albeit reduced from what it used to be) follows in conjunction
ie miguel's doing well cos he puts out r&b 100 million times superior to whatever else is out, it's not down to smart marketing campaigns or rare clemency from the horrid imaginary itunes ogre
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i know it's more complicated than that but at the same time it's really actually not
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
also i tend to think ne-yo is kind of a genre craftsman who colours within the lines for the most part, he will never do like a one auteur thing that puts his relatively limited star power in jeopardy
so (accepting the dubious proposition that climax is this big unfairly spurned standards-raiser) he won't do a 'climax' on his own, and he won't follow a single 'climax', but if there were a few 'climax's knocking around he'll come out and do a top draw one
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
i've prob said this before but Ne-Yo's lineage and template is so MJ/Lionel Richie/Babyface that i don't think it's ever made sense to hold him to current (or '00s) standards of R&B vs. pop, especially since his voice and songwriting sensibility enable him to color outside the genre lines more than most of his contemporaries.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Just finished the album and it was really disappointing, 17 tracks of Ne-Yo not trying very hard. Turns out the dance influence was the least of its problems.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
it's very long. got some joints, though.
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Any (non-Tim McGraw) favorites I should revisit? I don't see myself making it through the whole thing again anytime soon
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
::shrugs:: i'm on day one w/ it too, man, i just thought there was more good than bad personally
― Citizen Ship (some dude), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:32 (eleven years ago) link
Cool. I'll keep picking at it myself. Hate the idea of writing the whole thing off w/o taking at least a couple of keepers away from it
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
the song i posted is v good btw >:(
― all mods con (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
"...Ne-Yo's lineage and template is so MJ/Lionel Richie/Babyface..."
Ha -- I compared this album to Dancing on the Ceiling.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
A really long Dancing in the Ceiling.
Album's length also pretty much confirms that it wasn't his idea to release 10-song albums while he was on Def Jam.
― Andy K, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
this is my initial favourite on the ne-yo album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd1fDjXP-t4
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 November 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufqVGPmtOA
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Thursday, 8 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
^^^is dope imo
i'm digging r.e.d.? it's not yotg but there's a lot to enjoy here.
but i actually don't hate let me love you? so.
Jealous and Stress Reliever are both pretty great. I didn't mind the Wiz track. Still need to get through the back half.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
What % of it is "clubby?"
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 9 November 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
17%
― Evan R, Friday, 9 November 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
That's still a 70% increase over Libra Scale, which was only 10% clubby, but Al is right, the clubbiness isn't really that intrusive this time out. I think the bigger issue is that length/forgettableness
― Evan R, Friday, 9 November 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
This new Chrisette Michele track seems like a logical reinvention:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMKFEYXATFM&feature=player_embedded
― Evan R, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
no idea how that's a 'reinvention'
― my hands tra cer (some dude), Monday, 12 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
weeknd is gonna move more units first week than miguel
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
Who Will Be the Token Black Guy on the Billboard 200?
― bish don't kill my bosch (some dude), Thursday, 15 November 2012 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
New The-Dream. From... eh... his new album... 1977:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2LeGZXZuG8
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
sounded pretty good at first but the time he started blathering "not literally speaking but figuratively speaking" i started to tune it out
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
Terrible song, terrible decision to waste whatever remaining clout he has left to release an album on a reissue of an unloved, sort of hateful mixtape instead of the full length that he insists he has finished
― Evan R, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
wasn't there even a listening party for the new full length at some point?
― tpp, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
There was. The decision to rerelease 1977 is very strange and very bad. I do love 1977 though, so it's not unloved.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
none of the release announcements specify whether it's coming out on Def Jam (which he could mayyybe make happen since he's VP of A&R over there now) or if it's just some quickie thing he's selling on iTunes while The Love IV gets delayed another year.
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
It's definitely an excuse to delay Love IV. And if he redoes it to give it the type of polish his other albums have, I'll be fine with it being re-released. I just don't see why they couldn't release it WITH Love IV, as a bonus disc or something, instead. Just doesn't make sense.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
1977 was such garbage, has jordan come to his senses on that one yet?
― chief beef (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
No it wasn't. If anything, Jordan underrated it.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, seeing two Nash/McKinney songs in a row on the new Rihanna album made me very happy.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
it's kind of funny how he fell out of favor as a go-to hitmaker with most of the industry but Bey and Rih are just like fuck it he's still cool and keep putting him on blockbuster albums
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
1977 was such garbage
― chief beef (k3vin k.), Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:44 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Good job, good multiple efforts (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
1977 is good
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
at this point there's as much a chance that i would go back and listen to 1977 instead of love king, which -- while good in its own right -- is still mostly a noticeably worse version of love vs money
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
Ha. Don't let them fool you, Jordan. You don't have to choose between them. They both hold up. And I'd much rather put on 1977 than HoB right now.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
just re-read my review and i think it totally holds up
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
The rating was too low though.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
that i disagree w/
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
This full Rih/CB/Terius/Los track is a monster btw, in every sense of the word.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's really good
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
Monstrous. It makes me want to sing and dance and puke at the same time.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
are you gonna be playing it lots
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
also i just wanna ask something i asked on tumblr earlier, what good r&b jams from 2012 are there which are made for dancing to? proper choreography and everything. fast fast tempo. if there's a video of this, even better. so far i have, like, ciara and dawn and tiffany evans and kalenna.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
"Birthday Cake" lol
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 20:40 (28 minutes ago) Bookmark
cb manages to spoil this by the end, i'm over it
― r|t|c, Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:47 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark
idk maybe *shrugs*
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
That's your brain speaking. Give in to the zombies.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
xpost to r|t|c, lol
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
nah my brain is as empty as ever, it's my skin crawling at cb trying to do the mj growl and such
― r|t|c, Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
that's just the sound he makes when he's thinking "now THIS is the ultimate fuck you!!!"
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
haha i messed that up the quote was "the ultimate fuck off"
― some dude, Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:38 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ha, according to the wiki page MJ has a writing credit, so that is probably him doing the growl and not CB.
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 15 November 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I think one of these ne-yo songs is literally using the apple mail sound for getting mail as part of the beat, smh
― 乒乓, Friday, 16 November 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
a pre-emptive NO to both alunageorge and inc., just in case anyone was thinking of repping for them
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 19 November 2012 09:56 (eleven years ago) link
fucking gentrified r&b bullshit
*listen's to fantasia's "man of the house" on repeat forever*
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 19 November 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
*deletes rage-induced extra apostrophe*
Sounds like CB mimicking MJ's growl with sampled MJ echoing him.
Dream/Los song on the new Keyshia Cole > both Dream/Los songs on the new Rihanna
I have no problem with AlunaGeorge. Inc seem kinda preposterous.
― Andy K, Monday, 19 November 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
link the keyshia one?
― chief beef (k3vin k.), Monday, 19 November 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
heard some inc. tracks today and i kind of liked them. they have skeletons of really good tracks imo but the production & singing are so thin... i couldn't imagine anyone who actively listens to 'real' r&b jamming this shit. just makes me want to listen to urban hang suite or w/e.
i think they're better than alunageorge, for whatever that's worth
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
i kind of liked them
the production & singing are so thin
RAISE YOUR STANDARDS OF ENJOYMENT
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
essentially what i'm saying is that it all sounds very demo-y. sometimes demos can be good! if it's your whole aesthetic tho then that's a problem but it's not like i can't recognize the makings of a good song and/or still get some enjoyment out of something that i think still could be much better. i don't think those are warring ideas.
in any event i'm really not insulted by inc. whatsoever. in fact as far as indie r&b goes they're actually at least doing something slightly different opposed to all this druggy post-cassie dubstep remix-wave. like i could imagine a live band playing those inc. tracks.
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
fell in love with the weeknd, started fucking the inc...
― Evan R, Monday, 19 November 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
man inc's name is so disrespectful to irv gotti, rip
― K3v Ink (some dude), Monday, 19 November 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
what is going on with this wiz rap
― 乒乓, Monday, 19 November 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
Was gonna rep for Brenmar's remix of AlunaGeorge's "Just a Touch", but just had another listen and decided it's not really worth it.
― Mercer Finn, Monday, 19 November 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
so far i think this keyshia cole album has more songs i'm feeling on it than in keyshia cole's entire career to date
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, this keyshia cole album is superb
― Evan R, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
in a lot of ways this is what I wanted the Monica album to be
― Evan R, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah girl went in
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone checked out Rochelle Jordan? She's from Toronto and did a Marvins Room cover AGES ago and has two releases under her belt now - R O J O and PRESSURE - both of which are pretty listenable.
I'm not sure how lex will feel about them (some moments are a bit drifty) but it's worth a listen. Start with PRESSURE, maybe? It's the more recent one. R O J O has some nice stuff though, and her single "Here I Go" was also pretty solid.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
ooooh - new Keyshia is worth checking for? I love her first album but haven't really loved much since besides a single or two.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
i heard pressure, thought it was nice enough in a non-committal way, but idk we have jhené aiko for sub-cassiefanclub action these days
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
oh wow i hadn't seen this ~dramatic~ keyshia cole video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTmo-36iwDk
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry to steer the convo away from Keyshia at a time when she actually deserves the attention, but hot damn, this Alicia Keys/Maxwell debut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nFyAPzwkXIg
― Evan R, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
yes!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
Oooooooooh. Nice.
― weak willie (longneck), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4HODZRrCic
heard this on the radio today and it pleased meh, q parker of 112 with a sort of "falsetto" update
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
i'm a fan of that song but it's a little lol for your to gravitate to something so los/terius-ish
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
this ll/joe song is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89F3ATBQXaI
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
"it feels like new year's, but TWO balls drop"
-_-
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
ooooh - new Keyshia is worth checking for? I love her first album but haven't really loved much since besides a single or two
yeah I'm surprised that "superb" and a Keyshia Cole album are in the same sentence (I just liked her first). Will check out.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
damn, where is that new maxwell record. he sounds great there.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
he acted like the album (or at least the single) was coming this year but then he cancelled his summer tour due to vocal hemorrhaging, so i'm hoping he's just waiting until his voice is better to be able to promote/tour for the new record
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
would far prefer Keyshia Cole singing this collab instead of Alicia Keys
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
ehhhhhh keys/maxwell is just a more compatible mix of voices
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i agree... keyshia + maxwell would sound really weird
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
A physical match perhaps, but she can't feel an emotion without getting overwrought.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
alfred you're pushing your weird anti-keys agenda pretty hard
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
a duet of keyshia and trey songz yelling at each other would be pretty entertaining -- apparently he was announced at some point as a guest for her new album but obv didn't happen
― some dude, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
I've liked a couple things. Her last bit on this one made me wonder why Maxwell couldn't have let that guitar do the emoting.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
ok dude
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
the Meryl Streep of R&B songstresses
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
there are actually a couple of songs on the new keyshia where she is...kinda understated! nearly fell off my chair.
keys might seem overwrought because she tends towards the vague and non-specific in her songwriting, but at her best this just means she's astonishingly good at conveying grandly nebulous universals.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:06 PM (2 hours ago)
kind of lol but mostly duh
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link
q parker song is very good. totally a "bed" rip off it but fuck it
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
there can never be enough "bed" ripoffs
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol at "alicia keys is overwrought, not like that keyshia cole!"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:58 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:00 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This might actually be my biggest disappointment of the year? I was so eager.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
never believe anything an artists says about an album ever
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 05:00 (eleven years ago) link
especially r&b artists. just look at brainwasher's list in the first post of this thread every year
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 08:55 (eleven years ago) link
wellllllll yeah but there's a difference between the "i made 30 songs already but the label doesn't hear a hit" vs. a guy who goes platinum every time around having voice problems
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link
although lol "Cassie (this will happen)"
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:42 (eleven years ago) link
"Cassie (this will happen)" was lol at the time
also just noticed:
― Tim F, Wednesday, January 4, 2012 1:39 PM (10 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
over half the artists on that list actually did drop albums or will by the end of 2012 though! that's actually a pretty high number
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:48 (eleven years ago) link
particularly :( about k michelle, tiffany evans, timothy bloom and, perpetually, cici
estelle was prob the best album that did get released that no one apart from me thought was any good :(
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:54 (eleven years ago) link
haha brains' yearly lists of no-marks are my favourite thing, have often considered compiling and polling
i guess it depends on whether u think of modern r&b as melodrama or slasher film
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
Melodramatic slasher films, perhaps?
― weak willie (longneck), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i was trying to think of one of those
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
before the year's out i should like to see some top non-miguel, non dawn richard r&b trax top 10s, can we manage that
i would like that
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah def
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
and sans bloody gentrified r&b too obv
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:07 (eleven years ago) link
no idea what that means
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
So the dream album isn't coming out this yeah huh
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
well he's re-releasing 1977 with new songs in December
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ "bloody gentrified R&B"
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I heard
I think he's over at this point
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 12:27 (eleven years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YUrRvKjzL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
lmao how has no one made mention of this cover
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
i too would like some rando top tenners
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link
sorry got a lil british with that post
my no-dawn, no-miguel top ten, special for lex:
1. super rich kids2. thinkin bout you3. pyramids4. bad religion5. sweet life6. monks7. pink matter8. crack rock9. lost10. sierra leone
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
knew that was coming
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still kicking around R&B tracks for a mix I make each year. Some of the non-Miguel/Dawn ones I've settled on:
Warms The Soul - Rocki EvansLive Without Her - Timothy BloomLate Nights - JeremihHeart Attack - Trey SongzMoments - Bei MaejorCo-Sign - SWV Won't Find Me - Tiffany Evans
And then I'm torn about which Usher to include. "Climax" (too obvious), "What Happened To U" and "Say The Words" are all really choice options
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
ooh can we count "won't find me" as 2012? can we? i fucking love it
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Late Nights - Jeremih
^this is prob top-5 of the year for me, any genre
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
I figured what the hell w/ that Tiffany Evans track, nobody will know. Same with that SWV track, which was kind of 2011 in my mind. It's no fun if you can't bend the rules
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
by all means feel free to scrape any barrels available
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
swv's album was this year though, i think i'd choose "do ya" off it.
a bunch of people i know irl were absolutely captivated by the jeremih mixtape, idgi at all. "fuck u all the time" is aight but it's so insubstantial start to end
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
the tiff evans is sooooo not barrel-scraping. better than any given hyped r&b act you can name
jeremih mixtape is my no 3 album of the year after miguel & frank
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 14:59 (eleven years ago) link
Did Miguel end up pulling ahead of Frank for you?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:00 (eleven years ago) link
jojo - "demonstrate"melodie - "classic love"
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
what is with people liking that jeremih mixtape
'u got a woman' is the tiff i would consider charting
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:00 AM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark
they're really equal to me. i think in places where i actually submit a ballot i'll put miguel first for strategic reasons but i can't say definitively which i like better
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
truly i have no idea how you could like jeremih but not dig that mixtape. does not code for me at all.
i think the miguel & frank albums are different enough that it really just comes down to which sounds best to me over a 3-4 month period, but that always changes
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
really i should have asked for what 9 songs would you fill out a r&b list with 'matte black truck' obviously at the top of
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
xp it's one of the unavoidable ironies of 2012 that these two great albums that really don't have much in common have become so inextricably linked together
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 3:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i had been hoping the reason no one had mentioned it was because this was obvious
also, kalenna's mixtape >>>>>>>>>>>> jeremih's, ffs
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
mixtape riders outed themselves as never understanding the beauty of jeremih imo
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
though i'm happy to hear anything that isn't thin-voiced dude being slow and sad over ~vibey~ vague production
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
does anyone seriously think anything on the jeremih mixtape is as good as "birthday sex" or "imma star"?
773 love is easily one of his best songs?
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:09 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is completely absurd btw. no one rides for that kalenna mixtape, because it had one good.
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
'poison' motherfucker
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:09 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is also nuts but coming from you i'll let it slide
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
"no one"? no...critics? no ~tastemakers~? no indie bloggers? lol
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:15 (eleven years ago) link
because it had one good.
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:13 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
(song)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:15 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark
no one on ilx!
matte black truck / put it in a bag / pain & alcohol / poison / the morning after / party & bullshit / go to work
"773 love" is literally just...a cloud of nothing
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
this many rong opinions in a row should make jordan have to fill out a 500 character captcha before posting again
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
at least two people on ilx have written officially about the kalenna mixtape!
between july and when you posted an albums ballot in late october there was exactly one post on ilx about kelenna
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:16 AM (51 seconds ago) Bookmarks
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51/Four0oz2Freedom/seinfeld.gif
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
y'all always overrated jeremih anyway so i'm not surprised that y'all aren't feeling his post-water droplet era
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah ships rode for the kalenna tape as well iirc
there's literally like eight guys on ilm how many do you need
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:19 (31 seconds ago) Bookmark
see what i mean, an unbeliever revealed in our midst
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
in all honesty tho i'm baffled as to how the jeremih mixtape has become a line in the sand for his career or something. i've never actually seen anyone articulate that. i don't get it at all, i think its very much rooted in his "sound" & songwriting tics despite the production being done by a bunch of diff ppl
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
i just don't think it's a very good example of his sound or songwriting? it's not, like, terrible or anything, it's just your average mixtape full of bits and bobs that were just lying around and sound a bit unfinished
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
:D
"773 love" is nice enough btw but probably represents his zenith with that style, which imo really limits him. part of the beauty of his earlier stuff lay in his amazing stylistic range (partic his ballads), which is uncommon for a kid like him. no doubt schul(t)z was a big aprt of his success too and iirc he's heavily involved with his upcoming album, so i'm optimistic
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:19 AM (9 minutes ago)
>:|
the ":D" was to the seinfeld gif btw
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
funny to see the narcissism of small dicks of ppl who ride for jeremih but not the mixtape
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
it'd be a pretty decent tape for some new guy but for jeremih it's a not particularly compelling devolution too far into rappy half-singing half-written posing basically
i probably like 'go to the mo' and 'feel the bass' over '773 love', the cuts with marcus fench whoever he be are nice too
i don't think anyone hates the tape but gtfo with putting it on a par
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's perfectly fine for a mixtape but it's just in no way the THIRD BEST ALBUM OF 2012
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
not even kalenna's mixtape is that!
barthes simpson definitely the authority on what's funny
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:30 AM (1 minute ago)
yall asked! it's like a terius fan riding hard for "1977" or something! *glares at jordan*
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
careful man, you'll make him curl up in a ball in the corner and put how to dress well on
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
The Jeremih tape is seriously great. What's not to like?
― weak willie (longneck), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
oh god i'd forgotten that j0rdan said he liked how to dress well and it wasn't a joke
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
also: tiff evans' "u got a woman" is rather great! i don't think i'd heard it til now
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh god i went looking for news of an album or mixtape cuz i can only find this in shitty quality and the last news is that tiff evans was pregnant, presumably she has had the kid by now
*throws hands up in despair*
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
'u got a woman' was a brains pick at the very beginning of the year iirc
that sound is often employed but rarely dramatised as richly and convincingly, it's really stuck with me as the year's dross rolled by
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
damn i went back to bed for an hour and the thread got rough
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it took a mean turn for a while there :(
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
:)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:40 AM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark
ay you have farrah abraham as the no. 4 album of the year, let's not go there
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
have you HEARD that thing?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
i guess i just don't think that the production on the old jeremih albums is as idiosyncratic as you guys make it out to be (i really like the second album, but even that one can get same-y & basic) & i think this one stays close to what his sound is rooted in but just is just overall a more colorful, engaging listen.
― pussy try it (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
jeremih
appeal to me
duh duh duh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
(lil farrah joke for you there)
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
I thought the Jeremih mixtape was a little scattered/silly at first, but I've been revisiting it over the last week or two and it holds up as its own statement. It's a lot bolder than his albums, and its highs are intoxicating
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
the jeremih didnt really click w. me like that for w/e reason
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
songwriting reasons mostly i think
yeah, that's definitely fair. I think even he'd admit songwriting wasn't as much a priority on this one
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Jeremih's just an odd duck in general, which is part of what i like about him but it seems to extend to his illogical career arc -- his albums are these hermetically sealed thing w/ one producer and few guests, but the mixtape looks like it was A&R'd by a major, 2nd album spun off one of the biggest hits of his career but there was no follow-up single, started to become a go-to hook singer but didn't seem to capitalize on that momentum in any way, has he even TRIED to push anything off this mixtape to radio? it sounds like he's just having fun on it, which is cool, but it's like damn dude can you focus up.
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
like most of these other R&B mixtapes and indie stopgap projects at least seem to serve some kind of purpose in going off the beaten path and rallying the base and/or setting the stage for the next radio hit, this just feels like a guy who's ready to make an album but just threw half of it out there with some sketchy outtake type shit.
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:59 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark
you can vibe out to this one more though which is the important thing
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
oh god i forgot this mixtape forces me to listen to 'sir michael rocks'
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:25 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
at 2am on your laptop
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
haha i have the V word too but i wasn't gonna take the bait because i knew lex would
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:32 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark
lol jeremih's music has always been about vibes, it seems odd to try and slander him for that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
ship don't kill my vibe
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
i'm gonna write that in permanent market on the casing of my computer screen brb
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
hate*
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnnbHx8uNCs
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
i used to like the word and the feeling of vibes but it's just a ubiquitous cliché now
you need strong songwriting (like "birthday sex" and "imma star"!) not just a handwavey feeling
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
i find a sheaf of well written songs on the fire just gives the best smoke for peering through though
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
LOL
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:34 PM (1 minute ago)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbrbcnxpa81rg2rf7o1_500.gif
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad after j0rdan has spent years shaking his head at me for privileging strange, nebulous concepts like "vocals" and "drums" he's figured out what really matters in music
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
y'all are weirdos
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really have strong opinions about Jeremih. I liked both his albums alright and like this mixtape alright. Like lex, I have irl friends who are obsessed with this tape and I can't share their excitement. "Fuck U All The Time" is my jam tho.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
that's interesting, it wouldn't have occurred to me that there were roving bands of jeremih mixtape enthusiasts out there
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
anyway, "Demonstrate" is def my favorite non-Miguel, non-Dawn, non-Frank r&b song of the year. other stuff I love:
Adiah, "No One"Ty$, "My Cabana"Wynter Gordan, "Stimela"Usher, "Climax"Meshell Ndegeocello, "Four Women"Tweet, "Day Dreaming"Nina Sky, "Never Kissed You"Keke Palmer, "Dip 2 Nite"
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
xp i mean, these are my r&b/dance nerd crew we're talking about (oddly enough, one of them is a high school buddy of deej's)
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but i didn't even know the nerds were rocking with jeremih like that
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
i mean it's 'gold' on datpiff so obviously someone is listening to it
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i've felt it caught on in the circle that rev is describing... brenmar played "feel the bass" last weekend
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
also i keep hearing tracks/remixes of tracks from it out
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
congrats u guys are R&B hipsters
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
reporting, bruv
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
countdown to mention of a world of...
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
feel like "hipsters" and "r&b hipsters" are coming perilously close to being one and the same anyway
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
you just think that because you're not out chea on these imaginary R&B skreets
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
ding ding ding xp
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
def saw a chick in chicago w/ a bag that had a list of musicians on it & it was like
Fleetwood MacLed ZeppelinVelvet UndergroundSonic YouthAaliyahNeil YoungJoni Mitchell
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
I think it's a bit off to conflate the niche who are into a Jeremih mixtape and the wide swath of people who love Aaliyah.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
aaliyah def is a 'hip musical crush' to have nowadays
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
nowadays, and also the last 5,000 days before that
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
among the kind of ppl deej is talking about, I mean
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
of course there's going to be some lol college kids who wake up one day and go "wow aaliyah was dope" because they weren't really hip to "are you that somebody" when they were 5
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
thats a lot of ppl tho, is what im saying, you oldie
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wow, it hadn't even occurred to me there's this whole cohort that have only experienced Aaliyah in retrospect, which actually explains a lot over the past few years.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
if someone never really goes out of style as a respectable artist to rep for than it's pretty meaningless to point out imo. "Rakim is so hot this year!" xp
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
than=then
all I'm saying is it seems college kids are getting a copy of one in a million along w their copy of unknown pleasures nowadays which maybe wasnt as true 5 yrs ago
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
perhaps, yeah
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
The cult of tragic death probably plays a role too, hadn't thought of that either :( (and in a way it wouldn't for eg MJB, another canonical voice of that generation)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, def. plus the fact that getting a career cut short for whatever reasons before one can fall off often does wonders for a legacy.
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
Also this Keke Palmer mixtape is excellent. Love Me Love Me Not is what I'm about
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
sounding like dawn cos you think lex is automatic
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
Can we please drop the "hipster" accusations? They tend to obscure things. I think everyone I know who are into R&B are also heavily into the Jeremih tape.
― weak willie (longneck), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
sb for anyone who tries to break up a rolling r&b 2012 catfight imo
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
am trying and failing to find any reason not to put kalenna 'poison' at #2 on my no-dawn list, lol at this entire sham
TEARS IN MY DRANK, TEARS, TEARS IN MY DRANK YEAH
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
we have far too few of them really
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
this keyshia album is pleasant in her usual forgettable way
i actually decided it was cool to call ppl 'hipsters' again for 2013
― fanute da croupier (D-40), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
#trendwatch
feeling it tbh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
lol deej
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
Aight. Let's all call each other hipsters and get it over with then.
― weak willie (longneck), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
Good morning, guys. Who did what to whom?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
"Poison" really is just the most amazing song
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
in my fantasy world it would be the centerpiece of Last Train 2 Paris 2: Dick Big As The Eiffel Tower
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
I have to listen to Chamber of Diaries again before I decide where it'll end up for me in my albums list. The highs are so high but the lows are pretty low.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
lollll ship
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8PJJ9lNoVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtKyP-xe1C0
i'm guessing nobody besides lex took heed of my lyrica anderson endorsement so
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
urgh i hate lyric videos so much
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
they could make even teedra moses singing titchyschneider posts seem bad
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
Do we have a thread for never to be released rap albums? Coming to grips with the harsh reality that Juelz Santana will never have another studio album
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
that alicia/maxwell joint was done by pop & oak... it was also co-written by that guy gary clark, jr. who i had never heard of until i opened rolling stone the other day and saw a four-star lead review. pop & oak have another joint on the album and a track she did with malay (who worked on like every channel orange song) made the album. there's also a joint on there w/ babyface. those are all in the final like four songs... everything else looks kind of drastic (smeezingtons + jeff bhasker!)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
and for some reason i can never remember that they're called "oak & pop"
Malay also = Trunk Muzik!
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
jeff bhasker isn't really 'the we are young guy' in the context of an alicia keys album, he did "try sleeping with a broken heart"
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
yeah good point. but combined w/ the smeezingtons means it's probably not going to be "try sleeping with a broken heart"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
eh "it will rain" is not far off from that
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
especially since the song is called "tears always win"
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
oh lol it looks like bhasker also did the god awful "girl on fire." and frank ocean co-wrote the malay production. and nothing w/ miguel made the album, although he's gonna be her opening act on the tour.
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
omg the song title "limitedless"
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link
second straight tour for him as an opening act xp
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
he's at that stage in his career where it's a smart thing to do. let him play to arenas when the opportunity comes up, he can go fill a theater whenever now.
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i feel that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
I think he's with Trey Songz now iirc
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not really surprised either bcuz so much of the album was aimed for playing bigger audiences (sonically, not just in terms of growing his audience) but it's a little odd to see someone of his stature opening two straight tours
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
Missing his tour with The-Dream one of the bigger regrets of the last couple years.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what the ray's been missing
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
Girl on FireStudio album by Alicia KeysReleased November 26, 2012Recorded 2010–12 at The Oven Studios, Long Island, New YorkGenre R&B[1], neo soul, PBR&B
wtf wiki
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
modern R&B moving into the crucial black Pabst-drinking subsegment.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
PBR&B, also referred to as R-Neg-B and Hipster R&B,[1] is a term used by music journalists to describe an emerging, stylistic alternative to contemporary R&B.[2][3][4][5]
r-neg-b?
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
e-harv has a lot to answer for if that term is falling into wider usage
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link
i've never heard of r-neg-b
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link
xxp yeah of all the terms i find pbr&b uh mildly witty tbh but not enough to start seeing it on wikipedia
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
i mean it's not as catchy as "gentrified r&b" but what is
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
apparently c. wilson is responsible for that particular dog: http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/the_music_club/features/2011/music_club_2011/best_music_2011_bon_iver_is_unlistenable_.html
xpost lol
― some dude, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:59 (eleven years ago) link
r-gen-b
r-az-b, the subgenre pioneered by b2k
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:00 (eleven years ago) link
rhythm & gentrification
― weak willie (longneck), Thursday, 22 November 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link
what the fuck are you all talking about GO BACK TO WHERE RTC POSTED LYRICA ANDERSON SONGS
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:03 (eleven years ago) link
this far away from assuming yall just hate women
the fuck is wrong with you
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link
managed to get thru most of this alicia album and am more or less certain this is the music they play in hell
she is awful beyond words, i want to see her fall down a waterfall
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/user274675480/alicia-keys-listen-to-your
this is the only good song... i know right?
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
also i never properly listened to 'girl on fire' before, is that not the shittest song of all time or what
the world is on fire she's flying above it she's got her feet on the ground this girl is on fire WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT LEAVE ME ALONE
― r|t|c, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
every time i hear it i discover a new lyrical abortion -- "hotter than a fantasy, lonely like a highway"
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
although after rev defended "beautiful like diamonds in the sky" i should watch my mouth
― some dude, Thursday, 22 November 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
beauty is in the eye of the beholder, al
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 November 2012 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
lol "Girl on Fire" is abominable in every way
― thraeds of life (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 06:07 (eleven years ago) link
"girl on fire" is cliché atop cliché atop cliché, it's dreadful
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 08:35 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/raphael-a-williams/ralph-williams-sorry-ciara
O_O
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 22 November 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, nice.
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 22 November 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:06 PM
vindication smells like a corpse washing up at the bottom of a waterfall.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:10 (eleven years ago) link
Tenn of my favorites:
Solange - Losing YouUsher - ClimaxJojo - DemonstrateDawn Richard - AutomaticElle Varner - RefillNe-Yo - Lazy LoveB.o.B - So GoodMarsha Ambrosius - Fuck N Get It Over WithCiara - SorryEmile Sandé - My Kind of Love
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 November 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
looks like a girl but she's a flame
― uberweiss, Thursday, 22 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
give me "should be you" over "lazy songwriting" - the former could almost be a LTTP outtake. fab's verse is amazing
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 22 November 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
guess there wasn't a dedicated ne-yo RED thread huh. 'jealous' is a total earworm
― 乒乓, Sunday, 25 November 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
the alicia album is streaming on soundcloud for whoever's interested
http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2012/11/alicia-keys-girl-on-fire-album-stream
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 November 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
the frank song is low key but really good
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 November 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
wayne's verse on the first song of that keyshia cole album is one of the worst rap verses i have ever heard
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Sunday, 25 November 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
one of the best singles of the year in spite of him though (and the verse isn't any worse than "Motivation")
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
okay the bruno/smeezingtons/bhasker song on the alicia record is really fucking good as well
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
i'm gonna do a "worst wayne verse of the year" poll at the end of the year. it's been a banner year.
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Sunday, November 25, 2012 5:24 PM (1 hour ago)
Agreed. I'm not sold on the merits of the album -- I'm not hearing any interesting lyrics or chordal twists. "I Choose You" has been the one I've played a lot.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 November 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
Someone mentioned Tinashe itt way back in the earlier months of the year, and I've been really enjoying her Reverie album/mix tape. Very much like "the female Weeknd" that I've heard her described as at least twice, though I imagine that this'll work for people who hate the things abt The Weeknd that ppl who hate The Weeknd generally hate; the lyrics are far less aggressively unpleasant, and her voice is a pleasant Rihanna-lite wisp.
Plus, I didn't even realize until just now that this was her second release this year, so I'm off to listen to her first one right now.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 06:03 (eleven years ago) link
i' feeling this coline creuzot single (prod. by happy perez, who did "sure thing"), along with the rest of her ep
http://www.thisisrnb.com/2012/11/new-music-coline-creuzot-you/#more-49108
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
love how it pauses before it tips sumptuously into the chorus
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
this one's also happy perez-produced and an ep standout too, though it appears to be 3 years old lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzJcKsDynVQ
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I feel kind of sorry for anyone whose first association with Happy Perez is anything other than "Suga Suga"
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 November 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
odom is showing some life
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
this lyrica anderson mixtape is great.
sorry for not listening to it until now.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 30 November 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
[deep breath]
that last inc tune '5 days' is pretty much kind of a jam u know
― r|t|c, Saturday, 1 December 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
i mean what is the protocol when fake matt and luke goss come along start doing half-decent spacek karaoke, i can't just pretend it's shit can i
― r|t|c, Saturday, 1 December 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
i rep for the The-Dream/Los Da Mystro prod. track on Keyshia's new record -- 'Hey Sexy'. DarkChild's contribution 'Stubborn' is half-decent too.
― mingalaba, Monday, 3 December 2012 06:56 (eleven years ago) link
this solo track/bell biv devoe flip from v bozeman (as in that timothy bloom single) is super-dope
http://soundcloud.com/thatgirlv/v-poison-v-bozeman-thatgirlv
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 11:35 (eleven years ago) link
new marsha ambrosius single is diplo-produced ("diplo" "produced" as per, probably) and it's pretty climaxy; her vox are on point though, i love how sensual her upper register is
http://soundcloud.com/diplo/marsha-ambrosius-cold-war-prod
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
impossible to listen to that Marsha Ambrosius song without thinking of the Janelle Monae song
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Diplo brings it, though. That guy has discovered some new tricks this year
"Fuck N Get It Over With" is way better, but i can see why that one's not the radio single
― these markers love soda (some dude), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer it too. This one gets a bit shrieky, although the last 50 seconds are gold.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
top singles of the year: http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-20-best-r-radio-hits-of-2012.html
also here's my POX of deep cuts for the threadElle Varner – “Stop The Clock” Usher – “I.F.U.”Melanie Fiona – “Wrong Side Of A Love Song” Jeremih – “773 Love” SWV – “Everything I Love” Kalenna – “Poison” Monica – “Time To Move On” R. Kelly – “When A Man Lies” Trey Songz – “Never Again” Keyshia Cole f/ Robin Thicke – “Next Move”
― these markers love soda (some dude), Monday, 3 December 2012 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
Nice as always, Al
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
thanks!
― these markers love soda (some dude), Monday, 3 December 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
"stop trippin', you can't control that freak" may be the single greatest vocal moment of his career
chuuuch
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
tried hard with that tamia lp but i couldnt make it happen
an extra 20% songwriting & production oomph and she's still got jams in her tho
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
Disappointed that Melanie Fiona is a non-contender in most year-end coverage. It wasn't perfect or anything, but that album really got overlooked
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Encouraged that Miguel is placing so well, though. He's really right up there in a lot of these lists
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
latterly i've been really reminded how strong the jade alston mixtape from the start of the year is
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
that poor release received almost zero traction outside of this thread. excited to hear what else Alston has in her though; that tape suggested a lot of satisfying directions she could explore
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
"sober" got a very charming video
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
non-dawn, non-miguel 2012 POX
kalenna - matte black truck / poisonnikkiya - let's fly / alibimelanie fiona - like i love you / watch me workestelle - cold crushtiffany evans - u got a womanjade alston - searchingkhia - dickmatizenina sky - never kissed you / comatosemariah carey - triumphant (get 'em) (vintage throwback remix)keke palmer - love me, love me notkeyshia cole - get it right / hey sexy
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
evan - poor release was a statement of pity, not quality, right?
because i still really love that. it's not perfect but alston's a talent to watch and there are three or four jams there.
tamia had a new album? is it worth checking out to pick the best songs from it? secret affection for her based on 'so into you' and 'officially missing you (remix)' and the fact that she's canadian.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
not "three or four jams", the opening run of six is flawless
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah, pity, not quality. I've listened to that album a ton over the year, and while I've never completely loved it as a whole (it didn't make any of my lists this year, and not just b/c technically it came out last year), I'm always amazed at how different tracks jump out and click with me at different times. Wonderful singer, with a command of a lot of different moods.
― Evan R, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp sorry - i wasn't counting the intro because it's like half a song? if it were a whole song it would be one of the best.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's three-and-a-half minutes long!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
fine. i don't know why we are arguing about it. i've spent most of the year periodically raving about it. haha.
it just feels 'intro-y' to me somehow, but this is a silly thing to fight about.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
anyway, i'm listening to the coline creuzot EP now. You and I'm Done are the standouts on first listen.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 3 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
quite like this omarion mixtape, this is the standout on first listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Dc9EIk25w
the DRUMS
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
That Tank verse is the highlight for me. Wish that guy went as hard on his albums as he does on his guest spots
― Evan R, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
also jamming this off the lyrica anderson tape discussed earlier. hook is undeniable
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
yerp
frankly disgusted the thread is not falling over it after i had granted my imprimatur
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
tank album was not great but not too bad judging by some of the other free passes handed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwobN0T3nyk
he's kinda digging out a male loverman niche stanbase version of what keyshia's doing
still, who cares it's only tank tbh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
really like the omarion tape. not as much as late nights, but it's really good.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure where to post Brandon Soderbergh's Alt R&B essay published in SPIN.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
that was posted in the year end roundup thread, many eyes were rolled
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Friday, 7 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/KtWhL.png
hope that helps alfred
― r|t|c, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
was looking for a good trashcan app
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
I may have missed it but did anyone mention Wish's Me Against Her mixtape? It's not perfect but it does contain a few jams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wgc4yS3CNE
― scarfs, Friday, 7 December 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
I like that.
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 7 December 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
Alt(ernative) R&B: Did I coin the term? I was stumping for it in 2000. It seemed obvious. I don't think we (AllMusic) made it a descriptor until '05/'06, though. Don't think it gained traction in the office until I cited There's a Riot Goin' On and PM Dawn and ranted about neo-soul (a shrewd marketing term).
― Andy K, Saturday, 8 December 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dcNa4YNzWkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7indskO9KIs
― Andy K, Sunday, 9 December 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, December 3, 2012 11:35 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
reposting this because i'm still REALLY feeling it - i love how the original "poison" is just a distant echo
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
my mans trey songz and our girl maura on R&B in 2012:
http://www.billboard.com/column/the-juice/trey-songz-sticks-with-r-b-as-others-go-1008050982.story?utm_source=most_recent#/column/the-juice/trey-songz-sticks-with-r-b-as-others-go-1008050982.story?utm_source=most_recent
http://www.emusic.com/listen/#/music-news/spotlight/2012-in-review-the-rb-auteurs/?fref=300030&ecid=tafcb&tafisnid=3D87FEDC7DCC8FB3512E60AFE7962EDE
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
would love a Maura-Trey round table.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 December 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Trey Songz is always really elegant speaking on that subject; he's great at defending traditional R&B w/o advocating a purity test or abasing singers who do go pop.
I do wish I liked his last album more, though. I can barely make it through that thing, and this coming from somebody who devoured his last mixtape
― Evan R, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Also Maura's piece is very good; love that it doesn't force an easy narrative on a year that can't be summed up by one
― Evan R, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Trey has a good head on his shoulders, wish i could've done a better interview w/ him a couple years ago than a rushed 10 minute phoner allows for. definitely pretty frustratingly flawed output despite his faithfulness to R&B, though.
― some dude, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:07 (eleven years ago) link
1977 is out and it sounds MAGNIFICENT
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/HXiyO.gif
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:50 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZh6RalvTqU
been getting into this heavy lately
i know roger is forever hard to take seriously but dude killed it, top 10 r&b of the year imo
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 11:55 (eleven years ago) link
tsk tsk tsk
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
tsk we're making that green people always say what the hell does longneck mean
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's dope
found myself digging the Tamar Braxton single the other day, anything is possible
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:00 (eleven years ago) link
The Marques Houston is good. I'm tsk'ing your Whitney gif. Outside of the strictly unnecessary AK47, the new 1977 is and sounds great.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:02 (eleven years ago) link
we have an outbreak, patients are not obeying the quarantine, please return to your approved holding area: 6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration)
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
what is "great" about it
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02JMBhxufJw
this sillyness has also wormed its way into my head loads
i'd like to imagine there's more of this lurking in the bay and other environs, thread resolution for 2013 should be to abandon the internet mixtape circuit for a rolling regional r&b pop thug steez
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3WnHxeHVs
super endearing corn, now with video
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
in a similar vein i havent got bored of this one like i thought i might so watch it this time u bums
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCotUYLPFJI
lex u ever hear this? merry xmas if not
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiP5YMYxZ1Q
yes i am just cherrypicking a fave 2012 list instead of posting a 50 song list of trash, what of it
(dmile production this fyi)
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, December 14, 2012 1:04 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The remaster and added touches makes it sound as gorgeous as his other albums + the songs are still great + there's less Casha. I have no idea why you guys like to pretend like it's a bad album. It has held up waaaaaaaaaay better than the Weeknd ones.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:56 (eleven years ago) link
xp hmm p sure that isnt the official hd video for some reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee933BAAvhE
ah ok found it
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:57 (eleven years ago) link
ships made me realise 'dope bitch' was indeed actually really great
can that be enough terius talk now
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54jTH6Ybrgs
did we ever do this one? smooshing all these people into the one verrry slow moving elevator is entertaining. will we ever again in our lives get to hear mmts background operatic behind an easy miguel delivery (and ashanti doing something or other)
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 December 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
the-dream: officially better than the weeknd. phew
― k3vin k., Saturday, 15 December 2012 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
thx for the youtubes rtc
― k3vin k., Saturday, 15 December 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Saturday, December 15, 2012 5:21 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Comparable because they both released retail versions of their free albums from 2011 in 2012, you know?
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Saturday, 15 December 2012 10:12 (eleven years ago) link
what in the world http://www.tmz.com/2012/12/15/trey-songz-arrested-strip-club-assault/
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 15 December 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Least malicious assault ever?
― Evan R, Saturday, 15 December 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
NYC hip hop cops must be getting desperate for some action, it's been a minute since any rappers got busted on anything serious there
― some dude, Saturday, 15 December 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
thanking rtc immensely for "who booty" and "these hoes is winnin"
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
be a dear and listen to shanell's mixtape for me would you?
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
ah fuck it nm i'm on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9FezaSWDk
OH SHIT
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
omg shut the fuck up where has this ho been all my life
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
well that's just the single of the year isnt it, let's check the tape
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/DagHn.gif
EVERYONE STOP EVERYTHING we have an electrik red on our hands, i repeat --
http://www.datpiff.com/Shanell-Nobodys-Bitch-mixtape.384293.html
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU_7o1WgOsc
LISTEN
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
^^ THAT IS THE FINEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN YEARS ^^
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
been downloading
i have abandoned a) keyshia cole and b) dinner for this
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
trust me like you've never trusted anyone before
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
OH MY GOD I AM 20 SECONDS IN AND SO TOTALLY SOLD
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
i see one of the tracks is produced by "bolow". a typo?
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Monday, December 17, 2012 3:41 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i hope keyshia writes some songs on her next album about this betrayal
― some dude, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
"I Gave Up (Dinner for This)" ft. Ne-Yo
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 December 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
holy shit the beat switch-ups at the end of "fuck me daddy" O_O
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
xp lol
was gonna download til I learned there is a song called 'fuck me daddy'
― 乒乓, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh my god what is this shimmering mirrorball perfection that is "just for the night"
― lex pretend, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
SHANELL _ NOBODY'S BITCH _ ALBUM OF THE YEAR
oh yeah i did it
i did it without fully listening to it
― r|t|c, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
those shanell tracks rtc posted are all great - thx alot. downloading the mixtape right now...
^^ that's quite a statement
― rusty_allen, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
bwahaha
― tpp, Monday, 17 December 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
lol alfred
i suppose i "shall" give this a screening
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
Man, I seriously underrated Elle Varner's album, it is so great. so very very great. very jazmine somehow. and yet not at all.
shanell got one spin and i love a lot of it, but don't have time to fall madly in love with it until wednesday night.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://singersroom.com/content/2012-12-19/JoJo-Agape/
been anticipating this jojo mixtape for a while now
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
dling now
'we get by' was some underrated dopeness
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
even if i do spend its duration bracing myself for a talib kweli appearance
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
^^thoughts i had when listening to this - i don't know whether she's jazzed up the arrangement a bit or not but it sounds amazing here as opposed to okay before
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
"white girl in paris" is not a twist on jay-z/kanye but a joni mitchell cover!!!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
"these colonial beams and bricks are just not enough to hold me / all I got are my hopes and dreams and this cranberry Stoli" is a kind of joniesque lyric!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, agape is great.
i had messed up internet so i was only streaming it for a while but it's really lovely, esp. for this time of year.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 21 December 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
been p into the omarion ep tape thing, the song w/ joe buddens, him aside, makes me nostalgic for peak era the-dream somehow. he'd give it better hooks but it's still p nice
― johnny crunch, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
JoJo mixtape is so good, love the control in her voice and the jazzy touches and the California feel
― lex pretend, Friday, 21 December 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link
we fucking with ratchet&b? i love this
― J0rdan S., Friday, 28 December 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
hate that song, although it can't help that out here they only play the version with French Montana
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i chose not to listen to that version... seems totally unnecessary
taking iamsu! off a snappy LA hit is just so wrong... same thing with "up"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 28 December 2012 07:26 (eleven years ago) link
only version of "up" i was into was the one w/ whoever the singer dude was (skipper?) doing a more melodic take of the chorus -- heard that one first and when radio seemed to prefer playing the version w/o him i lost all interest in the song
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 07:28 (eleven years ago) link
i fux with "who booty"
r&b game travis porter
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
also reminds me of something else from ages ago in r&b that i'm too holiday mode to bother trying to remember, it'll come to me
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
i thought it was bobby valentino the first few times i heard it
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
hmm never heard of 'who booty', look fwd to checking it out
'rock body' by bobby v was kind of a grower this year imo
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 14:36 (32 minutes ago) Bookmark
pretty ricky?
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
no that's not who i was thinking of (but yes)
i thought you posted "who booty" initially!
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/VXT99.gif
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
re that jojo tape, the deeply unfortunate conclusion i found myself making was "cool but hopefully some big label will sort her out cos um she is kind of a weirdo"
oopsy
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
she is kind of a weirdo, and not in the way i expected, i enjoyed that! she is in such an unfortunate contract it seems, all signed when she was a kid :/
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah sure it's fun generally that she's a one but the tape didnt suggest it would be particularly fruitful musically is what i'm saying
― r|t|c, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
aaaaand El Deano finally reviews Kaleidoscope Dream...and All I Want is You.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
lol "Afro-Chicano" is such a baby boomer 'i can't keep up with what the preferred term is anymore' way of describing Miguel's ethnicity
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
coast to coastAfro-Chicanowestern male
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah, that did strike me as kind of weird
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 28 December 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
i think the tape was a lot stronger musically than i was expecting - dunno how much of that is the surprise factor of it not being what i was expecting generally though
― lex pretend, Friday, 28 December 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Who Booty is awesome.
― small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 28 December 2012 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it took me a while to figure out what the phrase that sounded like "hoop of the year" was supposed to be
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
xgau pretty otm about miguel
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 December 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
yup, he's definitely right about the 2nd album being better than the 1st
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
well like most of the ppl reviewing his album this year he was probably late to the game ;)
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 December 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
so you're saying he...wasn't otm? i'm confused
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
grades schmades man what's the difference between a B+ and an A-, he seems to 'get' miguel
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
he's so spot-on about "teach me" too
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
yeah def a standout
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
Never heard that John Hart song before. Is that getting radio play? Haven't heard it at all on my rap station
― Evan R, Friday, 28 December 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's just started to blow up the last few weeks
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
As much as I cheer for regional differences in radio play, there are times when I feel cheated by them. My rap station is playing "Wicked Games" about three times an hour now, and it feels like a violation every time
― Evan R, Friday, 28 December 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
and here i thought making people feel violated was the weeknd's whole raison d'etre
― Rolling "2 chainz" draadje (The Reverend), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that's on constantly here too (and everything i think) and i swear i will never get used to dude's awful voice or those cheeseball '90s trip hop drums
― fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Friday, 28 December 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPm6YESMYg
― fiscal cliff paul (k3vin k.), Monday, 31 December 2012 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
My favorites of the year -- singles, album cuts, whatever.
http://survivalthemes.tumblr.com/post/39280625219/201240http://open.spotify.com/user/avilyn/playlist/0FbJ4QSOki8sHBEGwsLuiB
1. Miguel - “Adorn” [RCA]2. Frank Ocean - “Pyramids” [Def Jam]3. Jessie Ware - “Running” [Island]4. Storm Queen - “Let’s Make Mistakes” [Environ]5. Elle Varner - “I Don’t Care” [RCA]6. Brandy - “Slower” [RCA]7. Lulu James - “Rope Mirage” [Lulu James]8. Usher - “Climax” [RCA]9. Robert Glasper Experiment - “Move Love” [Blue Note]10. House Shoes - “Castles” [Tres]
11. Funkineven/Fatima - “West 2 East” [Eglo]12. THEESatisfaction - “Queens” [Sub Pop]13. Full Crate & Jesse Boykins III - “See with Me” [Kilawatt]14. Meshell Ndegeocello - “See Line Woman” [Naïve]15. José James - It’s All Over Your Body” [Blue Note]16. Kalenna - “Black Matte Truck” [Kalenna]17. Roses Gabor - “Night Sky” [Girls]18. AlunaGeorge - “Your Drums, Your Love” [Island]19. Daley - “Alone Together” [Universal Republic]20. Andrew Ashong - “Flowers” [Sound Signature]
21. Columbia Nights - “In the Glow” [Record Breakin’]22. Mary J. Blige - “Don’t Mind” [Geffen]23. Georgia Anne Muldrow - “Kneecap Jelly” [SomeOthaShip]24. Dawn Richard - “Automatic” [Chartbreaker]25. DVA - “Eye Know” [Hyperdub]26. The Internet - “Fastlane” [Odd Future]27. Melanie Fiona - “Bones” [SRC]28. Khari Mateen - “Family and Friends” [The Lunchroom]29. Dwele - “Going Leaving” [eOne]30. Leon Ware - “Orchids for the Sun” [Quieres Chicle]
31. Hiatus Kaiyote - “Malika” [Hiatus Kaiyote]32. R. Kelly - “Green Light” [RCA]33. Cody Chesnutt - “Don’t Follow Me” [Vibration Vineyard]34. SWV - “Better Than I” [eOne]35. Keyshia Cole - “Hey Sexy” [Geffen]36. Inc. - “5 Days” [4AD]37. Tank - “Compliments” [Atlantic]38. Teena Marie - “Luv Letter” [Universal]39. BJ the Chicago Kid - “Good Luv’n” [MAFE]40. Khari Cabral - “Get Back” [Dome]
― Andy K, Monday, 31 December 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
22. Mary J. Blige - “Don’t Mind” (Geffen)
This album didn't get much love, but it had some great singles on it
― Evan R, Monday, 31 December 2012 05:48 (eleven years ago) link
15. José James - It’s All Over Your Body” [Blue Note]
YEAH, love this, probably top 5 for me. I've watched this live version like 30 times this year:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGtHvy_3W4Q
XXP I like that Avant joint.
― Ya Bish Bosch (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 31 December 2012 06:56 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0nRtZbz0QI
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ xgau devoting precious words of his capsule to 'candle in the sun'
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 2 January 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like we need brainwasher to start the 2013 thread just so we can have that optimistic list of artists at the top
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 09:26 (eleven years ago) link
in the meantime the entire jojo mixtape is still giving; this is a slow burner, but her songwriting and vocal nuances are so on point in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eet9zVqkGdM
― lex pretend, Thursday, 3 January 2013 09:27 (eleven years ago) link
OK, one last drop from me before Brainwasher reminds us that the K. Michelle album is coming out for real in 2013.
I've been lukewarm on AlunaGeorge, but their new track "Diver" is fantastic. No YouTube embed yet, but Stereogum has it here: http://stereogum.com/1228872/alunageorge-diver/mp3s/
This Austin Brown mixtape is like a weird mix of young Marvin and New Edition, filtered through the Elephant 6 collective. Shit is all over the place, but he has sort of a Bruno Mars star quality, so I feel like he could be a thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8bIhVmGvbc
And because we all like her:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFfyFmj0Y5Y
― Evan R, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
I used to know how to embed YouTube videos. I don't know what changed.
― Evan R, Thursday, 3 January 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZ17WyV9Qs
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, 5 January 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago) link
Love that. Hate the video.
― Ya Bish Bosch (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Saturday, 5 January 2013 04:45 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure if we have much of a choice as to whether Michael Jacksons nephew becomes 'a thing'.
― tsrobodo, Saturday, 5 January 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
oh look, the new KING song dropped and I made a thread for them
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
oops wrong thread lol
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link