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cos i really think people should hear this forthcoming Scuba single. Album in February

Number None, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sweet. Kinda like that Scuba track, I've mostly been lol'ing at the headlines about his new album tho: 'Scuba gets a Personality on new album' etc...

Can't stop playing Young Echo and Dro Carey.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh and this has been in my head for about a month...

jimitheexploder, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's his Pet Shop Boys album! apparently

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Amazing.

I did enjoy his last one. He's a strange one mind. I only tend to play the odd track of his in sets but still really like his albums. I just wouldn't go near a lot of it when DJing. Kinda feel that way with quite a bit Hotflush stuff for some reason.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 6 January 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's been saying in interviews how he's making stuff to play out more. Kinda blurring the lines between Scuba and SCB

Number None, Friday, 6 January 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I heard Scuba drop that about a month and a half ago and was wondering what it was! I for one look welcome a big-room trance Scuba album, the potential hugeness of the idea is just...

Noise II Men (EDB), Friday, 6 January 2012 21:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

SR Mix #114: Peverelist [Punch Drunk/Livity Sound]

Szare – Triplicate [Horizontal Ground]
Asusu – Too Much Time Has Passed [Livity Sound]
Levon Vincent – Revs/cost [Novel Sound]
Bass Clef – Electricity Comes From Other Planets
Funkineven – Beat Crash [Apron]
Kowton – Jam001
Alex Coulton – Bounce
Kowton & Pev – Raw Code
Kowton – End Point
Pev – Salt Water
Asusu – Sister [Livity Sound]
Pev – Erosion(s)
Pev – Livity
Zhou – Noboru [Punch Drunk]

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/01/sr-mix-114-peverelist-punch-drunklivity-sound/

jimitheexploder, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Non Person made a solid comeback.

His pay what you like album is all kinds of vibes.

http://1-0-8.bandcamp.com/

jimitheexploder, Friday, 6 January 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's good to have Guido back.

http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/09/guido-launches-new-label-readies-live-show/

I still play Anidea pretty regular.

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been sent some really lovely African deep house by a guy called DJ Tsoro. Can't find much on YouTube, but it's bloody lovely.

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 11:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

New Guido sounds great. Intrigued by the live band angle

Number None, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 13:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't stop playing You Make Me Feel by Terror Danjah & Meleka

He's got another track on the way with Ruby Lee Ryder on Butterz in the near future too, looking forward to hearing that.

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was feeling this guy's stuff yesterday:

http://soundcloud.com/konductorslab

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i did this footwork-y remix that'll be out later this year, here's the lo-fi radio rip version

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gerry Read has been on one recently, really into his 12"s on Fourth Wave.

Wicked mix here too: http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2012/01/gerry-read

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

DJ Q Brandy & Coke on the way out on Local Action in the near future. Can't wait.

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guido has some quality free bits on his soundcloud right now: http://soundcloud.com/guidoproductions/ U Neeq & Green Carpet espesh.

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 22 January 2012 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you're into your lowkey beat tape stuff.

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/01/srr001-torus-torus-ep/

jimitheexploder, Monday, 23 January 2012 16:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

love it

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Monday, 23 January 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

you know, i don't know if i've ever seen a Mexicans With Guns mention on ilm, but Ceremony is super dope.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you're into your lowkey beat tape stuff.

You mean witch house? Heh. Sounds great, I look forward to the release.

Kuedo's Sinking in the Datatank Mix

I expected this mix to be really rewarding to me but I'm just not feeling it. Track selection is fairly 'meh', aside from the obvious selections, and the mixing didn't really add anything.

The Palace tune(s?) upthread is outstanding though. I never really get out anymore, but at least I can imagine what it would sound like on a proper system.

viborg, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Kuedo mix is very mellow compared to some of his bits but then it is meant for a bookshop. His Fact mix from last year was maybe my favourite: http://www.factmag.com/2011/10/03/fact-mix-288-kuedo/

Photonz has another carnival sized rave banger on the way soon:

http://youtu.be/Dn6IjG1HT-k

Really into his 12" on Principle that already dropped this year.

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

You mean witch house

uh

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol don't worry I think it was a joke ;)

Glad people are feeling the Torus bits so far, we've had some good feedback so far. You can't beat some mellow beats once in a while.

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 19:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

mellow beats 4ever

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

NO JOKE, man. Witch house is nothing to laugh about.

viborg, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

But seriously, isn't Balam Acab/Clams Casino sometimes considered 'witch house'? The Torus doesn't sound that far off, and I mean that in a good way.

viborg, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Balam Acab is too pretty to be witch house. Clams Casino is cloud rap without the rap.

Number None, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah Balam Acab kinda got unearthed by witch house heads but I don't ever feel like he was witch house. He wasn't very gothic or dark he just shared a spaced out vibe and appeared at the same time. Clams Casino is just a hip-hop space cadet.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah OP 'The Hope' by Scuba is on the way pretty soon it seems, since I just got the promo thru my inbox while typing the last message.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Cool. Just checked and it's up on the Hotflush soundcloud now
http://soundcloud.com/hotflush/scuba-the-hope-flash-addict

Number None, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

the Machinedrum track that Azealia Banks stole for her latest buzz track just came out and is a lot better without her:

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

well she didn't "steal" it but i agree

Number None, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah well thats a no brainer.

In other news Guido has some sweet tracks up for free DL on his soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/guidoproductions/

MikeQ's 12" on Fade To Mind is insane.

Mala is on one

Gerry REad gets housey

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol didn't mean literally "stole", should have thought a little before writing that

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol I think we got what you mean. She rapped on it. Do you reckon she'll do a mixtape before an album? Where we get to hear Lone and Machinedrum bringing the hype before her album is nowt but Diplo impressions... I'd kinda like that, I mean she'd at least get Lone & Machinedrum tracks out there to the odd geek who looks at the production notes who hasn't heard them before.

Accccccccccccciiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

The 3 Gerry Read 12s on Fourth Wave have been really good. I think my fave one is "Untitled" from the first one. That and the Lorca remix I'm playing a lot. Lorca's Moments is just lovely anyway.

mmmm, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Photonz has another carnival sized rave banger on the way soon:

http://youtu.be/Dn6IjG1HT-k

Really into his 12" on Principle that already dropped this year.

― jimitheexploder

^^ true that. remarkable launch for Principe (portuguese for prince, fyi). the dj marfox 12" (eu sei quem sou) it's kuduro at its finest...

on a side note : you should really listen to sangue de cristo (photonz + tiago). a little more on the balearic side of things, but great notwithstanding.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah Balam Acab kinda got unearthed by witch house heads but I don't ever feel like he was witch house. He wasn't very gothic or dark he just shared a spaced out vibe and appeared at the same time.

the only thing you can call him on are the super stock 808 drum sounds. but he's on some other shit with his vocal samples & structures, wander/wonder was really pretty and underrated.

i hear that torus stuff as being part of the shlohmo/lapalux/beat scene tip.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah Torus to us at least is on that beat scene tip. SR have always been into that vibe.

I rally need to dig into Photonz and those guys more. the DJ Marfox 12" has hardly been off my turn table since I got it. Big up on the suggestions Rusty.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, meant to say i'm utterly addicted to Terror Danjah's "You Make Me Feel". Pity it seemed to get lost in the end of year shuffle

Number None, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah while we're on about witch house lol

Vessel from the Young Echo crew is on Tri Angle.

http://soundcloud.com/tri_angle_records/scarletta

This is a percy mind...

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

LiL ♎ JaBBA

http://soundcloud.com/lil-jabba

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mickey is a badman.

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Total Freedom kinda bangs in that Kingdom, Fade To Mind, Nguzunuguzu, Night Slugs way this mix is pretty sweet: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/01/listen-total-freedoms-opening-ce

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 29 January 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

GERRY READ! favourite new music of 2012 so far - that photonz track really good too - loved Aquarian Ball from a few year ago but had always sort of assumed it was a total one off

out comes stanley, Sunday, 29 January 2012 17:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, this is bangin, right?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, meant to say i'm utterly addicted to Terror Danjah's "You Make Me Feel".

i quite like it but it's kind of lol how terror danjah gave a 5-year-old track to hyperdub. it was originally on this comp

dbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the carmen reece 'hey lover' mj cole remix on that is such a classic

dbs, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been quite enjoying this remix of Redlight's Get Out My Head

I want your nose, your shoes and your unicycle (dog latin), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I kinda like that.

Guido stuck it in his fact mix the other day too: http://www.factmag.com/2012/01/30/fact-mix-314-guido/

Well nice, can't get enough Guido.

I didn't know that Terror track was an oldie, I never coped that comp. It deserves another outing to be fair.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Joker remix is so out there. i like all the individual pieces, might need to listen to it a few more times to see if they all fit together

rob, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

looks like shadowy youtube enigma Evian Christ has signed to (surprise) Tri Angle
http://soundcloud.com/tri_angle_records/sets

Number None, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tri Angle are really hit'n'miss. They do have a way with hype tho. So its no suprise they signed Evian Christ and Vessel recently. Vessel is the hit...

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this remix. Feels like an early contender for 'best of 2012.' Great male vocal bout phones and so forth w very cool sample work and bassline.

Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Thursday, 2 February 2012 08:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Today I'm mostly hyped for...

Gremino on Fade To Mind

This mix from Mickey Pearce

http://www.mixcloud.com/MaryAnneHobbs/mickey-pearce-mix-xfm-280112/#utm_source=widget&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=flash_links

Randomer on Hemlock

http://soundcloud.com/stholdings/randomer-scruff-box-get

& news of a Royal T album on Rinse.

jimitheexploder, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Any impressions on the new Preditah EP? I like some of the sounds so far, but it's a bit uneventful for me.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Circles" is the best of the bunch, I'd say.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Circles is a banger, been waiting an age for that to hit wax.

Objekt Cactus just dropped, it's a big'un.

I heard Livity Sound Live this weekend w/ Peverelist, Kowton & Asusu. It was something else. Picked up Livity Sound #003 by Pev from Idle Hands too: http://hardwax.com/65112/ love it.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

This one is pretty rude.

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/02/p-jam-sonic-router-x-uncle-albert-mix/

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

full stream of Scuba's Personality
http://soundcloud.com/hotflush/sets/scuba-personality

Number None, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

finding "cactus" sort of a bitch to mix with, not sure what i'm doing wrong here. is it just me or is the last third totally wonky?

the late great, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

also why is livity sound vinyl-only, why peverelist, why

the late great, Monday, 20 February 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

just listened to "cactus", pretty dope. it's really syncopated but it's all quantized + in time. i can imagine it would be hard to beatmatch with though.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's in time but i think it adds a tiny rest at each drop so you can't just step away from it.

but yeah, what i meant was that i find the syncopation really hard to deal with, the first drop sounds pretty good with whatever (i like it under 4x4) but the two sections after don't. but then heavily swung stuff (like trad dubstep) also sounds weird in those two sections, i have to mix it like a 1/4 or 1/2-beat off and even then it sounds weird.

the late great, Monday, 20 February 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe it's because the last two sections have that syncopated kick that anticipates beat 4, i could see that getting muddy over 4-on-the-floor.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 20 February 2012 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

scuba lp is beautiful

tundra, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been enjoying this Skeng-style track from Hitchin local boy Skeptical.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess here's as good a place to ask as any - Is drum'n'bass dead in the water, or what? I'm always hearing about other styles of bass music these days, and hardly ever d'n'b, so I assume there isn't a lot happening any more, but there must be, right?

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

footwork is the new d&b iirc

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

d&b seems to be valued as an influence or element these days, but not as a genre

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i guess i heard some stuff last year about dbridge/instra:mental and the "drum & bass revival", but the tracks i checked out were really boring.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

the instra:mental album was more 4/4 oriented too. and very boring.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hospital Records nights round my way get more ppl in than any other dance events I can think of

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is the thing, because round my way I hear of a lot of d'n'b (and garage) nights, and they seem ever-popular, but it's not something I read about much on RDP or on the "trendier" part of the web.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been feeling these mixes today...

MikeQ Fact Mix #318
http://www.factmag.com/2012/02/27/fact-mix-318-mikeq/

Gremino Showcase Mix for Blackdown
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2012/02/gremino-showcase-mix.html

Champion Xlr8r Mix #236
http://www.xlr8r.com/podcast/2012/02/champion

Some tracks...

http://soundcloud.com/brey/brey-brasil-ep-sampler

Thats not related to the d'n'b Q mind, I really have no idea whats going on over that way bar the odd Non Plus+ or Jack Sparrow diversion to higher tempos. Rockwell & Untold did a track last year which wasn't bad: http://soundcloud.com/critical-music/rockwell-v-untold-rekohu-sunrise

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was going to say, drum and bass still seems really popular, given that every third or fourth fabric mix is still a drum and bass mix, but i haven't heard very much interesting stuff at the traditional 160 bpm tempo aside from ROCKWELL, who basically just sounds like an update on the classic certificate 18 steel-edged roller sound

the late great, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

d&b seems to be valued as an influence or element these days, but not as a genre

― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:04 AM Bookmark

Yeah, this seems about right. Of course, dnb nights are still popular, but it hasn't really been considered on the cutting edge for about 15 years now. I did like the Rockwell EP from last year. I think getting away from the Amen break and taking influence from juke was a good look for him. I'm not really familiar with his background though.

I don't go to dnb nights, is it usually an older crowd there?

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

last year (or maybe even longer ago) i heard some new track that was based on uptempo live breaks and had this huge synth build, it sounded really fresh. i can remember what it sounds like but don't have the slightest clue who it was. almost want to say FaltyDL but i don't think that's right.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Objekt track is a mad one to mix yeah. Its just swung, broken and fuck'd tho. Its all on one tempo and all that. You just have to catch it right.

In other news...

Coki is still insane.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 01:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really can't wait to hear the footwork/shangaan remixes.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 12:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is killing me: the song featured in last week's Dusk & Blackdown Rinse mix that samples The Breakfast Club - "Well, if you say you haven't, you're a prude. If you say you have you're a slut. It's a trap. You want to but you can't, and when you do you wish you didn't, right?" Anybody? Thanks.

viborg, Saturday, 3 March 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm really enjoying that Scuba album but it seems to be pandering directly to the people who claimed dubstep was really just nu-skool breaks all along, the whole thing is so late 90s I keep expecting it to come with a subscription to Jockey Slut. Very enjoyable though.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't dislike the scuba album (certainly not as much as some seem to) but it's like, i heard and loved better big-room electrohouse the first time round so ehhhh

lex pretend, Sunday, 4 March 2012 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

It feels more 90s maximalism than big room electrohouse to me, although that was borrowing pretty heavily from 90s maximalist crossover dance in the first place.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 5 March 2012 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've only heard 'Hope', and yeah I love it. I don't really care whether it's dubstep or whatever. It does have a bit of an Underworld (not sure, someone like that?) vibe, but I don't see it as a bad thing.

I was actually popping my head in to say that Burial's 'Kindred' was quietly soundtracking my weekend and boy, I'm pretty sure it's the most affecting thing he's ever done.

Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Monday, 5 March 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Scuba album is bad. Came at it overflowing with good faith but its done nothing for me. Prog breaks were manky in 2001, i dont want a rewind. Doesnt even have the production values that made some of it bearable.

straightola, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've never been too crazy about scuba - that album cover screams disaster, though. cross-reference with:

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't even really like his mixes that much - the ostgut ton one is too subtle and grey, the dj kicks is somehow simultaneously hectic and bland, like "de9: closer to the edit" for the dubstep set

those first tracks, like "harpoon", were sort of brilliant in the pre-"midnight request line" era but since then it's been a whole lot of meh

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ this is what the new scuba sounds like to me

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^ lol even better

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean he's not quite there yet with the acoustic guitar and the vocalists but give him time

the late great, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha. speaking of guitar, i'm glad to see some airhead stuff is getting released: http://www.randsrecords.com/airhead/wait-south-congress

although it's kind of weird/interesting that 'wait' is being presented as a regular track rather than a yeah yeah yeahs remix?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

last year (or maybe even longer ago) i heard some new track that was based on uptempo live breaks and had this huge synth build, it sounded really fresh. i can remember what it sounds like but don't have the slightest clue who it was. almost want to say FaltyDL but i don't think that's right.

btw i think this might have been egyptrixx? still can't find the track though, so who knows.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Need some more big n bassy recommendations please. Basically the only music hitting the spot for me recently is stuff like Blawan, Kromestar, Burial, that Dub Phizix & Skeptical track I put up here earlier, Mala's recent one...

Would I liek the DVA album?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 8 March 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

The DVA album suprised me, I wasn't expecting it to be as good as it is. Some killer stuff on there. There is a stream of it going around: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2012/03/stream-dvas-forthcoming-album if you want a listen. Loads of nice vocal tracks.

I've been playing Brey a lot

http://vimeo.com/37531768

If you want something on that Blawan tip go for the last 12" on Punch Drunk by Tessela: http://punchdrunkmusic.com/products-page/featured-products/tessela-d-jane-channel-punch-drunk-12-free-mp3/ kinda like where Blawan left off with Fram/Iddy. Man I really wanna hear more of that from Blawan.

How about some Akkord for that deep vibe: http://soundcloud.com/akkordmusik/akkord001

New LHF EP just dropped an its quality, hold tight for the album its fucking brilliant.

jimitheexploder, Friday, 9 March 2012 09:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I seem to be the only person on earth who likes that Photek album more than his jungle tracks.

Everybody knows that Scuba started out making breaks as Spectr right? It shouldn't come as a huge surprise that he's heading back that direction, his earliest mixes were all breaks mixed with dubstep back when Distance was writing his best stuff. I don't know, I like some of the Bristol breaks crew like 30hz and Baobinga. And I miss Toastyboy. Ils had his moments too.

Wish he'd try for something like those guys if he's going to head back into big room territory.

pattern loader, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN2azh0tM6E

Specifically he should be trying to sound like this.

pattern loader, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Actually the Scuba album mostly just sounds like the Chemical Brothers. Or more to the point it sounds like the not-very-sure-footed albums that people like Paul Woolford would make in the mid-00s that ended up sounding like the Chemical Brothers. The Scuba record is better than that though, with the exception of the dnb track.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 9 March 2012 10:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxpost wait does that mean he's responsible for Spectr's "Dance 4 Me"? Because that's one of my absolute favourite tunes of the year...

Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

He should make an entire album of stuff like that.

Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 10:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah he did that one. Shame he doesn't go in that direction more often really.

Can't get into the new album at all it just gives me bad flashbacks to progy/electro/nu-skool breakz from my youth.

On another note...

Presk has been killing it of late, looking forward to this: http://soundcloud.com/presk/4th005-a-hesitate / http://soundcloud.com/presk/4th005-b-kook

jimitheexploder, Friday, 9 March 2012 11:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really like the single ("eye know") off the DVA record, is it all that r&b-ish?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 9 March 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

(can't listen to the stream at work)

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 9 March 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

moratorium on tweaked vocal samples please

the late great, Friday, 9 March 2012 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

that was re: "dance 4 me"

i always wondered what shed was on about when he publicly dissed scuba on LWE but now i think i know what he was getting at

the late great, Friday, 9 March 2012 18:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have you ever played at Sub:stance?

No!

You think that wouldn’t work either?

Scuba is not… I’m waiting for a offer! He’s not asking me [all laugh]. I have to talk to him. I would love to play there.

Well he recently played as SCB at Panorama Bar, and based on the recording I imagine it’s what you might sound like DJing.

I don’t like it at all. This SCB. Some dubstep guys can’t make techno music. It’s impossible. And here’s an example. It’s not very good. The same way when house producers want to make dubstep, it’s impossible.

Guess he's still waiting for that offer

Number None, Friday, 9 March 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

listening to DVA clips, forgot i already heard and like 'madness' and 'where i belong'. digging all the triplet feels. points off for calling your 5/4 for song "the big five" though.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 9 March 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Scuba is not… I’m waiting for a offer! He’s not asking me [all laugh]. I have to talk to him.

i inferred from this sentence that the antipathy predated the interview, which is why everyone laughed

the late great, Friday, 9 March 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

moratorium on tweaked vocal samples please

― the late great, Friday, March 9, 2012 6:13 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was re: "dance 4 me"

I agree with this general principle but (a) I think the track is about 2 years old actually (lol uk funky rips being even more of an outdated move for post-dubstep types than R&B cut-ups); and (b) what it does with the vocal really reflects that, it's coming from (aping?) a slightly different tradition.

Tim F, Friday, 9 March 2012 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was really disappointed with the DVA album, had always been a big fan of his stuff (and his general aesthetic) but the album didn't seem to reflect it in any compelling way. i suspect people who care about complex rhythms might like it but i got bored. if you're gonna get vocalists that's a good move but maybe think of some hooks for them to sing.

lex pretend, Saturday, 10 March 2012 09:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's never just about "complex rhythms" though. The problem with the DVA album is he misunderstands this, thinks making things as contorted as possible (less rhythmically than melodically, actually) is a noble end in itself. As a result there is no real tension to the grooves.

Tim F, Saturday, 10 March 2012 10:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

What are you both talking about? If you actually think its particularly rhythmically or melodically complex in a detracting way, then you are listening to another record. What is great about this record is the fact that the dissonance or diff time signatures never interfere with the functionality of the tracks at all.

And Lex, there are loads of hooks in the vocals. Perhaps not the pop ones you might like, but its clearly not aiming at that, is it?

Josephine, Saturday, 10 March 2012 12:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

It doesn't get much vocal hookier than 'What You Do' if that's what you're after. The rest don't rely purely on a repeated chorus to be hooky. I find myself singing along to the verses of Eye Know and the Zaki track as much as the chorus. I assume that is not a crime? Of the dancefloor tracks, there is none where it's rhythmically awkward, unless you are a rusty robot, or like metronomes. I think all the vocal tracks with the dissonant synths actually work really well. Its a really poised bitter/sweet balance. But if this is your idea of 'making things as contorted as possible' then there is probably no point discussing this any further, as we are on different aesthetic planets. Half of the DVA album probably belongs in that psych r&b thread.

Josephine, Saturday, 10 March 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Zaki track is possibly my favourite. I actually quite like several of the tracks but as an album it seems like DVA has taken his starting polemic ("pretty ugly") and become so wrapped up in it that he loses sight of how and why complexity / dissonance etc. can work - which is that they imply the sense of order and functionalism that they don't exhibit openly. The problem is not that the rhythms / melodies / etc are "too difficult", it's that they're so impressed with their deviation from the norm that they only-occasionally invest any energy in thinking about how those deviations nonetheless can hit targets (i.e. actually grooving, for one). In fact the actual uk funky rhythms on the album aren't terribly complex (though I'm not saying they're too simple - they just don't feel like the focus). The exception that proves the rule is the excellent beat on "33rd Degree".

The fact that the album sounds so much like a broken beat album (DKD being closest I think) updated with Dilla/Flying Louts/Floating Point synths just underscores this, I think; my above argument is, if anything, even more true (or more obviously so) for broken beat than for funky. I'd love if the album had a more energetic tune that was as charming as "Future Rage".

"Why You Do" may have hooks but it's incredibly slight (deliberately so, I suspect). Though its lyrics are kind of lol in the way they literalise the album's sonic and thematic concerns.

Tim F, Saturday, 10 March 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree that the record owes more to broken beat side of uk funky than anything else, although I do think the idea that some of the tracks "are so impressed with their deviation" is a projection on your part that I don't hear in the music at all. Its strength it seems to me is that it exactly doesn't share that "impressed with itself"-ness of broken beat. I think he hits a great balance on the songs of teasing the vocals with the synths while not detracting from them. I agree 'Why You Do' is lol, but the chorus is totally infectious, even if the music itself isn't. My least favourite tracks are the more upbeat ones that don't hit as hard as some of his singles.

Josephine, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahah well of course these are "projections" on my part, it's my interpretation of the music.

I'm not pretending i've got stone tablets from mount sinai with all this written on them.

Tim F, Saturday, 10 March 2012 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Teeth - Vibrate

http://soundcloud.com/sgnlf/teeth-vibrate

Is coming out: http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/03/signal-life-on-the-lookout-for-some-unorthodox-shit/

Been waiting a while for that one.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ I like that a lot

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 11:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

"flying louts"

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

i like the kick/snare conversation on those signal life tracks, but the way the vocal samples are deployed seems kinda corny? it gives me an '80s electro vibe, maybe they're going for that.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

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hahah well of course these are "projections" on my part, it's my interpretation of the music.

I'm not pretending i've got stone tablets from mount sinai with all this written on them.

― Tim F, Saturday, March 10, 2012 11:11 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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I know, what I meant was that you were projecting your own self-impressedness with your own interpretation onto to his music.

Josephine, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

That allegation makes sense if you're saying I'm a habitually self-impressed person who assumes everyone else is like me. Is that what you're saying?

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

That allegation makes sense if you're saying I'm a habitually self-impressed person who assumes everyone else is like me

well, you do write music reviews and post to ILM

the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

j/k

the late great, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, you do write music reviews and post to ILM

― the late great, Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:18 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

It wasn't an allegation Tim. We're not in court. Just thought you were wrong, and over-injecting your own baggage.

Josephine, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost no quite seriously it's both the most logical and potentially-correct spin I can put on it.

OTOH I'm not sure how it accounts for all the times I've been quite self-impressed with my take on something and not projected it onto the music at hand.

At any rate my use of the word "impressed" was maybe misleading anyway. It's not so much that the DVA album sounds smug or self-satisfied to me (if anything, DVA as an artist strikes me as restless, impatient, quick to grow bored with his past ideas - perhaps too much so, even); more that several of its "targets" are targets which I think have been improperly framed - as if these songs are the correct answers to the wrong questions.

Josephine said upthread that "Half of the DVA album probably belongs in that psych r&b thread." I agree with this obv and I wonder if people's reactions to the stuff on that thread provide a good guide to their likely reactions to this album and vice versa; when I think of the avant-R&B stuff that I like most (Kings, Me'Shell, Quadron, etc.) it's stuff that doesn't really go to great lengths to emphasise its unusualness or "avant"-ness or etc but instead uses its disparate sonic influences and ideas as yet another means of expressing more typical notions of beauty, groove, lushness etc. etc. - similar to how, say, Timbaland's classic work may have been startling and engrossing but rarely difficult-to-love. I guess I like stuff to sound a little bit effortless, even if it's clear that a lot of skill and accomplishment has gone into it. Whereas the DVA album sounds to me like it's tense-with-effort.

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

And (sigh) as usual my curiosity re what someone is trying to say is portrayed as hyper-defensive, hyper-pendantic, hyper-legalistic... This grates a bit, because I think I tend to react to personal jabs quite reasonably. But whatever.

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really understand the difference between a pop hook and a non-pop hook.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Phrased as an "either/or", I'd agree.

However, I think it's not too controversial to say that different things register as "hooks" in different contexts - like, to use an extreme example, a hook in a gabba track might be the kind of thing you'd never deploy in a pop song (though in a post-Guetta world even that may no longer be true).

More subtly, e.g, certain tricks in an R&B tune "work" better if you approach with an R&B frame of reference rather than a pop one. But it's not like as listeners we really consciously change hats in this fashion very often. It's more easily discerned in e.g. how many popjustice types consistently fail to get certain R&B. Their problem, obv.

In the case of DVA, I personally don't think saying the hooks are non-pop really explains away their lack of purchase - the Vikter Duplaix track, for example, works like a Vikter Duplaix track, but doesn't hit me nearly so hard as "Manhood" or "Messages" or "Looking For Love". It's not really the case that those tunes have "pop" hooks whereas "Madness" has another kind of hook; they're just better songs, is all.

Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

a hook is a hook

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

in lots of pop songs the real hook is an instrumental thing or a sound

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 15 March 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

this thread is getting about as dry as a hessle comp.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 15 March 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounding a little exasperated, DVA continues: "I just needed a change, bruv – I mean, six years of something is long. Imagine you’re with a girl for six years. You know what I mean? You’d probably split up! It just gets boring. Not that the show got boring, but six years of anything is long, so you’ve got to change up your life".

haha. IMAGINE!

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

jimitheexploder, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

loving this new paul woolford thing

http://soundcloud.com/platform/special-request-alone

lukas, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

So shit...

baby boy loose this track, baby boy loose this track.

in other news.

I really didn't see myself being a Paul Woolford fan after so many years of well dad house but damn he's finding a vibe the last few years.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

LHF album? opinions?

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

i've been enjoying woolford for awhile now, feel like the turning point was actually around 2005

also really like this recent one, "can't do without"

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

although it definitely doesn't need to be 8:27 long

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

and then right after that obv he killed it with "erotic discourse"

not sure how that could every qualify as dad-house

the late great, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Royal T's refix of I Luv U is inasane.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 31 March 2012 13:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is a 2011 track but it looks like nobody ever talked about it on ILM?

i heard it's not going to get a release, fucking crazy!

loved pearson sound rewinding this on boiler room #47

http://soundcloud.com/platform/br-47-pearson-sound?page=3

starts coming in at 32:30

the late great, Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

'This is killing me: the song featured in last week's Dusk & Blackdown Rinse mix that samples The Breakfast Club - "Well, if you say you haven't, you're a prude. If you say you have you're a slut. It's a trap. You want to but you can't, and when you do you wish you didn't, right?" Anybody? Thanks.

― viborg, Saturday, 3 March 2012 17:37 (1 month ago) Permalink'

Oh yeah sorry this is 'Kook' by Presk out now on Fourth Wave.

http://www.sonicrouter.com/2012/03/sr-mix-125-presk-fourth-wave/

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ Big fan of that Presk tune.

Mr Andy M, Monday, 9 April 2012 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah it's now stuck in my head and probably will be all week.

viborg, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, Jimmy Edgar 'For the Children'. Maybe that's more bobbins? I don't fully understand the difference.

viborg, Monday, 9 April 2012 19:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

loving this new paul woolford thing

http://soundcloud.com/platform/special-request-alone

― lukas, Saturday, March 24, 2012 4:20 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

Alone is pretty good but I like this one even better (Lolita)

http://soundcloud.com/specialrequest/special-request-1-2-lolita

dmr, Monday, 9 April 2012 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Vessel is on one at the moment:

http://soundcloud.com/left_blank/b1-merge-preview

The Panther Modern record is ace too.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 08:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 19 April 2012 08:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

is this the thread where you all talk about more beatmaker-y shit

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

into this song even tho it sounds like something I prob was into like 10 years ago or something

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, this Distal album I'm listening to is nice!!

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

is this the thread where you all talk about more beatmaker-y shit

yes please

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 30 April 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

"kook" is pretty good, what w/ a great sample, epic synth vibe and creepy "presk" vocal clip, but i still prefer "sweat" (presk & cinnaman)

presk IS killing it though, four for four on dope EPs

the late great, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw is it just me or does croydon house sample "sacred cycles"?

the late great, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another Presk track, remixing Tessela and Hackman. The rest of the 12" is wicked too.

Feeling the latest South London Ordnance on 2nd Drop too: http://soundcloud.com/stholdings/south-london-ordnance

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anybody like that Kry Wolf track up on XLR8R?

pattern loader, Sunday, 13 May 2012 08:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.xlr8r.com/mp3/2012/05/under-my-skin

pattern loader, Sunday, 13 May 2012 10:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

the first four tracks of this new slugabed album are great, but then it turned into a blur of hi-fi synth-fusion to me (ie no hooks). maybe i shouldn't have tried to listen to it all at once.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

NEWFLASH - MOSCA BITES HAND THAT FEEDS

going back to '09 listening to Marcus making this weird, weird house music basically that brings in all these elements, I wanna go back to that. If you want a guitar in your track, that's cool, you can do that. Now in UK bass you cannot have guitars—that's one of the rules. You have to have 808s, big Julio Bashmore bass, a US rap sample repeated, cowbell, a little Burial garage sample and a Deadboy synth that goes "eeewwwaaooo," bending all over the place. And those are the rules now. And you do get a lot of, it's just the same old same old that I get sent. There's so many people making music now, that it's flooded.

the late great, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bashmore has actually been using guitar a lot on his recent stuff

Number None, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.fritenite.com/2012/05/17/podcast-23-grenier/

I'm really psyched that DJG seems to be extricating himself from dubstep and slowly evolving into something else.

He was way too cool for the kids he was hanging out with IMO.

Josiah Alan, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Having been going over old DMZ tracks in the last few days I was wondering if it makes sense to have a Dance Partisans of the Past thread, encompassing everything from early 00's proto dubstep to cotemporary Bass, or whether assorted thread already suffice?

EDB, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't mind having a place to get nostalgic about my record crates.

Josiah Alan, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ate a lot of ramen so that I could buy all those DMZ platters.

Josiah Alan, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, I don't want to think about my current diet when I look at my records in 10 years.

EDB, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Throws up devil horns.

Josiah Alan, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josiah Alan, Monday, 21 May 2012 12:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Looks like XLR8R just got bought by Buzzmedia, RIP.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/genre/dance/buzzmedia-acquires-xlr8r-1007189552.story

Is there anything resembling an independent English language dance publication left?

Little White Earbuds?

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

And I by publication I mean something with a separate editorial entity from the marketing department, no offense meant to Sonic Router or any of the other blobs out there.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blogs, stupid phone.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

This next banging track is brought to you by Red Bull Music Academy, Scion A/V, Nike, etc.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh how i wish that typo had appeared on the fluxblob thread

the late great, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would never be that mean to poor Matthew, we used to talk about comic books.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 02:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

This Resident Advisor review is brought to you by Juno Plus.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're breaking my heart here

the late great, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Its just annoying, no need for a coronary.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/nouveau-palais-album

Canadian rapper turned house producer Sixtoo/Prison Garde.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bringing that gritty funk from the mean streets of Vancouver.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm torn between my desire to hate on the Red Bull Music Academy and my desire to give them a thumbs up for giving away free FLACs.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 2 June 2012 10:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.spin.com/blogs/edm-las-vegas-desert-mirage

If EDM is this decade's alternative rock, does that make Skrillex: Eddie Vedder?

Josiah Alan, Monday, 11 June 2012 08:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

My mate Sully was good enough to pop down and do a set for us on Saturday. I may be biased, but the guy needs his own Fabric cd - very cool blends of uk bass and us-style house, lots of cut-up mixes etc.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Monday, 11 June 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know dungeon dubstep is backward looking and not very exciting to most but I'm determined to plumb the depths.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok this isn't dungeon, but it's weird and good.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 14:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's cool but also almost entirely based on what is known in my circle as 'the forbidden rhythm'

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

What kick on the 1 and 2 and snare on the 3 ?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

is that the lambada rhythm?

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

This one? Sounds sort of like a clave, slower reggaeton kind of thing.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Swindle is probably referencing soca more than anything but I'm not 100% sure on that.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of latin rhythms and dubstep, so psyched for the new Mala album.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

da da da-da da

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously listen to the last minute and a half on that one.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

forbidden rhythm =

1   2   3   4
x-x-xx-x-x-xx-x-
???

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

super curious why it's forbidden

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yup, especially the first half:

1 2 3
x-x-xx-x-

it's like the go-to unfunky clave for fake latin beats. sure it can be voiced well or disguised/extended but i try to stay away from it when possible.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

aka 'the white man's rhythm'

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

is there a link to an mp3 where i can hear that rhythm? i am terrible at reading tab for beats.

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

It works well in that track.

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah agreed.

my mind is going blank for classic examples but i will post one when i think of it.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 14 June 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Those mala tracks sound great. I was wondering what he's been up to, so bring on the album.

Hennesy Williams (EDB), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess I should listen to those Mala tracks now. I only had time to listen to one track before I left for work and I was intrigued by the forbidden rhythm, which now that I think of it, might be kind of similar to a montuno rhythm in how it switches from on- to off-beat?

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Friday, 15 June 2012 01:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha ok, here is an audio example of the forbidden rhythm: www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=h3JFEfdK_Ls#t=145s

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't know why that didn't embed, but check the piano lick in chorus of billy joel's 'my life'.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 15 June 2012 13:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the difference is it being just one layer of polyrhythm in the Swindle versus being the sole point of rhythmic interest in the Billy Joel.

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't believe nobody's ever sampled the first minute of that billy joel track, never heard that part before

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh, you're just talking about the hat rhythm at the beginning of the swindle track?

bum bum badabum bum?

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

can't believe nobody's ever sampled the first minute of that billy joel track, never heard that part before

had the same thought

oh, you're just talking about the hat rhythm at the beginning of the swindle track?

nah, the main handclap rhythm that comes in at :38 and then gets passed around to the bass > synths > everything

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 15 June 2012 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

heh that rhythm is quite overused in grime

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i mean ffs how often do you hear a wide-open break like that?

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

re: billy joel

the late great, Friday, 15 June 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Monday, 18 June 2012 03:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Billy Joel and the Great Forbidden Rhythm Swindle.

errant flynn, Monday, 18 June 2012 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.djtechtools.com/2012/06/17/the-age-of-the-edm-rockstar/

Finding the sudden popularity of "EDM" sort of depressing, but not nearly as depressing as all the crappy articles popping up in my Facebook page. This doesn't feel like winning.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 04:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Let's combine all the worst excesses of disco, rave and festival cultures and call it a trend.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Need some easy listening music to relax.

Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 04:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

super bangin

the late great, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

This might have a little crossover with the Interzone Bubblers thread, but the new LOL Boys Enter the Unknown mix for UTTU is pretty stunning: http://boomkat.com/cds/533842-lol-boys-enter-the-unknown

It's got a lot of stuff going on in the mix but what strikes me most is how it reminds me a lot of 92/93 hardcore.

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Moments In Heartbreak" sounded better the first time I heard it:

But yeah, UTTU really is a great label.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

some nice rave vibe here

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 5 July 2012 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

Sonic the Hedgehog grime with Atlanta inspired snares.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

I absolutely refuse anything that wasn't made in Atlanta "trap" music.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're in for a fun year then

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 12:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Currently holding my hands over my ears and yelling "La La La".

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 13:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

purely and simply music for dickheads

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Generally I prefer Slackk's slightly housier productions to his stiff, stop-start grime-influenced bits but Blue Sleet has grown on me a lot, I like the way it builds up.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's a fun little tune, doesn't seem especially "trap"-influenced to me compared to a lot of 2012 productions.

i love the new Airhead joint ("pyramid lake").

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

the best thing about that video is the old school cgi which of course they fail to credit

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.nataliastuyk.com

My first attempt at 3D - an aerial odyssey over mountains, cities and mirrored deserts for Slackk's track Blue Sleet, produced by Local Action Records.

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

WUT WUT WUT WUT~~~

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ I get your point (erm or at least I think I do) but I feel that with Slackk and a lot of other recent stuff that draws on early grime the point is that it's done as an almost scholarly exercise you're supposed to recognize the reference points. To me it's almost the dance/electronic equivalent of 'record-collection rock', where informed listeners will take pleasure in spotting all the classic building blocks and the way they've recombined.
In general I think a lot of the fans of Night Slugs and stuff with a similar aesthetic value it because it combines elements of stuff they were already into - grime, r&b, US regional club genres - and the fact that they've managed to achieve critical and dancefloor popularity with those elements feels to the long-termers like a kind of vindication.

Obv there's loads of projection and supposition in this argument - part of prob comes from my online interaction with Slackk who in his tasted comes over as an almost obsessively 'proper grime' kind of guy so it's hard not to see his doing genre exercises like this as an act of tribute on his part, paying homage to his roots. And obv the response will vary from listener to listener, and there will be some people out there going 'woah this is so fresh, how on earth did he come up with such striking synth and drum sounds?' in which case yeah you're perfectly entitled to point them straigh to things like the TNT mix (which I'm banging out right now).

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Should be 'scholarly exercise where you're supposed to', posting in a bit of a rush.
More generally I admire the certainty and purity of your tastes in these things, but for better or worse it's not how I am, if I were to draw lines with that degree of confidence it would feel dishonest.

The Rise of Owl-Bass (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think rtc is mad because an online music magazine called slackk "future grime"

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nah, nah, he's hyper-grime. Intelligent grime for dickheads, right?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

g^2

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I may agree with Lex in that Ikonika's newest overshadows this one considerably, similar sound palette.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still the CGI is cool, and 99% of juke/trap/whatever coming out of the UK is just annoying.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm surprised it's contemporary cgi!

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ehhh.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lunice, sounding like a twat

“(Mohawke) was saying, a lot of people on major labels, they know we’re around. They’re very well aware of us, but don’t even bother trying to contact us. They just straight frickin’ rob us, almost. I wouldn’t say ‘rob’ – (they) just get the idea, then get another producer to do it. And for a while we were like, ‘Whatever, we’ve got our own little scene going, I don’t mind and it’s all good”. But after that we were like, “Okay, okay, hold up, it’s getting a little too obvious!”

“We didn’t think about breaking in fully until we did the TNGHT project together, and the response we got from rappers from that. We were like, “You know what? Let’s just straight bring it in. Straight bring it in. We’ve been doing this shit for years, and it’s not like we’re new or anything, it’s not like we’re new money shit, it’s not like we came out of the blue and we blew up like crazy. We’ve built a whole foundation of our work. So it’s about that time. I feel like that sort of movement is backed with all of our homies together, like: “This is us! You can’t do this shit! You can’t just take our ideas and come up with it all after all these years. We’re coming for you!’ (Laughs). That kind of thing.”

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxp eh i am nothing like a tru grime soldier and couldnt really give a stuff how it gets dressed up these days. grime lifers are p much the worst tbh

just inchoate contempt and eye-rolling for chillwave 8bar and the wonderful world of fact music debasing every currency available as usual is all

i know i shouldve been grown up enough to resist straying onto this terre mavaise again

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

nngh mauvaise even

never misspell the 10 cent word, kids

r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least they're unapologetic/direct about wanting to make rap beats and do production work for mainstream vocalists, that's kind of refreshing.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

who would want to apologize for making $$$$$ is what i want to know

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was more talking about the "they're stealing our ideas" bit

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Didn't Kanye just commission a remix from them?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

dunno? Mohawke contributed "additional instruments" to "Mercy"

Number None, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

who would want to apologize for making $$$$$ is what i want to know

i mean wanting to engage with u.s. rap artists rather than just making their own insular/instrumental version of it.

i was more talking about the "they're stealing our ideas" bit

yeah that's ridiculous. i don't doubt that lots of u.s. producers are aware of them, but clearly a ton of ideas have flowed the other way.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

#!

I guess this is what I was thinking of, just an edit.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

On a brighter note, Eprom's take on this sound is kind of more my thing.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

is that danton eeprom?

the late great, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if any of you follow SergDun on twitter but his rants about "nerds ruining trap" have been entertaining.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, I think this guy is Bay Area.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is the best:

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

also v. good in a similar vein:

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Shigeto, thanks for the heads up on that one. You're the Jordan that lives in Madison, right?

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

yup - are you in town?

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I thought it was funny that we both listen to and make the same general kinds of music in the same city and haven't ever met.

Unless you hang out at the DJ shop or know Wyatt Agard, I used to go to his Ableton classes.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that is crazy given what a small town this is, although i don't go out to a ton of shows/dj nights unless i'm playing or a friend is. i might have met wyatt once through my friend nate, but don't know him.

we should hang though, lemme know if you have a gig coming up or whatever.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I pretty much gave up deejaying when I started to get serious about making beats again, I've got the Traktor setup but its been gathering dust for a while.

Need to get back on that horse soon, I guess.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

word. we should probably take it off-thread but i've been doing Chants shows at least monthly, come say hi sometime!

40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

this Arca record is inspiring

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 6 August 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

#!

Pay very close attention to the flow.

Josiah Alan, Friday, 10 August 2012 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

my shit

40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 27 August 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Crazy detailed production is crazy.

formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 27 August 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://soundcloud.com/markrh/sets/12-coming-july-2012

Aardvarck's last couple releases have been huge sounding, gigantic drums.

Josiah Alan, Sunday, 2 September 2012 09:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1709

Feel a migraine coming on.

Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

At risk of turning this thread into my blog, anyone listened to the NeferTT release on Hotflush?

I've been trying to figure out who it might be, Falty DL, Machinedrum, maybe Boxcutter?

Pyramel is cool.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 13 September 2012 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a duo i think? Falty DL is definitely involved though

Number None, Thursday, 13 September 2012 12:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I could definitely see this being Falty DL and Boxcutter, sounds like a halfway point between their styles.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

forget what counts as dance and what counts as bobbins and what counts as bass, but a friend of mine who spins in the city a lot and constantly is putting stuff together but until recently hasn't bothered putting anything out got a track on this top billing comp. http://topbillinmusic.bandcamp.com/album/bass-bonez-compiled-by-flipperi-2

haven't gotten a chance to spin the whole thing, but his joint is 'Always Got My Back' and I've been enjoying it / think it's good enough to call folks attn to.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 5 October 2012 06:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

cashemere cat y'al

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

l

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

this track is pretty dope, one of those times that 4-on-the-floor really works for me: braille, rise

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

How did this thread just sink? Anyways, it's obviously time for a '13 thread, but until then, THIS, THIS, THIS

formerly EDB (ed.b), Friday, 4 January 2013 04:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seems like most of the producers that I like from this thread ended up making techno. Or maybe I'm just listening to more techno, dunno.

Josiah Alan, Friday, 4 January 2013 05:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

just realized this thread went dead mid-year, wow

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 19 January 2013 01:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

must've been around the time when all the post-dubstep dudes switched over to techno and house

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 19 January 2013 07:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Having EDM artists colonize your scene has a way of making people a little musically conservative, even Ikonika is talking about listening to Legowelt. Kryptic Minds, Untold, lots of people.

The other options are what? White boy juke? Trap? Endless Burial ripoffs?

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 19 January 2013 09:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm old, LOL.

Josiah Alan, Saturday, 19 January 2013 09:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't like the idea of splitting techno / house and partisans anymore

the late great, Saturday, 19 January 2013 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

it seems insular

the late great, Saturday, 19 January 2013 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I started the first partisans thread I wanted it to be for everything, then a separate thread was requested. So its fine by me.

I'm fighting a perverse desire to start a rolling EDM thread.

Josiah Alan, Sunday, 20 January 2013 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

The finest in frat-house, bro-step and neon synth puke only.

Josiah Alan, Sunday, 20 January 2013 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

If I recall there were originally impassioned pleas to merge the bobbins and partisans thread (since it is, y'know, pointless segregation), but the ILM massive (appropriately being dance music partisans about it) weren't having it.

Anyways, I just need somewhere to post this!

formerly EDB (ed.b), Sunday, 20 January 2013 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Since I'm the creator of bobbins 2013 thread, I declare that you can post "partisan stuff" there. No need to make a new thread.

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 20 January 2013 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink


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