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Let's do this, apocalypse style.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tin. It's malleable and cheap. Not flashy but very useful.

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 1 January 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Happy New Year

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 January 2012 00:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Happy New Year

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 2 January 2012 03:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got some metal cd's for xmas.

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 2 January 2012 03:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's exciting.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 January 2012 03:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm already nuts about the new albums by Alcest (no surprise), Christian Mistress, and Pallbearer. And very pleased at the prospect of a new Katatonia album in the the first half of the year.

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 January 2012 07:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

First big surprise of the year for me is the Liberteer record. Not usually a grind guy, but for some reason conceptual progressive orchestral grind did it for me.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 January 2012 07:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

And by "some reason" I mean "obvious reasons."

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 January 2012 07:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hi.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 2 January 2012 09:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey y'all

markers, Monday, 2 January 2012 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that Liberteer album wasn't bad. I'm also not a huge grind guy, but it hit me right this morning. Only 2012 metal album I've heard so far.

Sidenote, any of you guys know of any outlets looking for writers? I've resolved to write more in 2012 and focus would be a big help.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 2 January 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Downloaded the Liberteer but only made it a song or two in - the vocals were too Muppet-like for my taste. Now that I know it gets orchestral 'n' shit as it goes along, I might put in the effort to get to the end.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 2 January 2012 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Right now the early favorite for 2012 for me would have to be The Devil's Blood - the Thousandfold Epicentre. Really just hits all the right buttons for me – classic rock influences, female vocalist, really catchy songs. That being said, I was just flipping through the decibel Most Anticipated Albums of 2012 list, and there are definitely some upcoming titles that could give it a run for its money.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Devil's Blood - the Thousandfold Epicentre

that cd is out in europe. i have the cd

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Europe doesn't count.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 January 2012 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that final?

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 00:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

do blogs count?

Viceroy, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 06:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i resolve to listen to way more stoner metal, folk metal, and mordy metal this year

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

will be opening voting for the metal poll tomorrow so make sure you all get your noms in

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 3 January 2012 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy crap, Howard Jones left Killswitch Engage.

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Things can only get better

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Human nature.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

i heard hot topic t-shirt sales were like 30% down -- no wonder the band is falling apart

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hear no one is to blame for the split.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's no everlasting love on the bands part

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

He's putting the dream into action.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's gonna join blink 182

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will he write a new song?

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't try to live your life in one day.

Sugary pee is not normal (aldo), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

we certainly have our work cut out for us to find the next singer of Killswitch, something we plan on making priority #1 going forward.

Fucking love this quote from their website. Yes, I'd imagine finding a new vocalist would be a good #1 priority at this point.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 5 January 2012 05:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

priority #2: write some sick breakdowns

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 5 January 2012 15:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

priority #3: throw off those mental chains
ooh ooh ooh

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

What do people make of Behold! The Monolith? I always thought they were "hipster metal" or ironic or whatever but there are a few really good tracks on their new album Defender, Redeemer.

Doran, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

The smartest piece of musical analysis you'll read all month. Sergeant D is a fucking genius, and someone should give him a book deal.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fucking bullshit.

Doran, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, that was unnecessarily aggressive.

I didn't enjoy that piece you linked to but thanks anyway.

Doran, Thursday, 5 January 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

What didn't you like about it? I think it's pretty important to keep an eye on what people younger than me are listening to, and D is inarguably one of the best people doing it right now. Do you disagree with his conclusions?

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

who is 誤訳侮辱 ? i cant keep track of posters names!

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh i forgot to post ~~~ VOTING THREAD FOR ILX METAL POLL 2011 - All ilxors or lurkers ballots welcomed (Closes Sunday JAN 15th @ 11.59pm UK Time) here. Had to bring forward it by a week as the big ilm poll is being run the week i planned for.

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmm

n a nutshell, there is nothing more trendy this year than being tr00. MySpace is long dead, and while some of the bands that flourished on the site are still around, they’re dying along with the scene that surrounds them. Neon merch, generic deathcore and crabcore are out; ‘real hardcore,’ old-school death metal, and djent are in. Yesterday’s scene kid is today’s hipster/metal nerd, and in what should be welcome news to MS readers, it’s cool to be an elitist snob!

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

grunge was more fun to me than hair metal or nu-metal shite

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

not sure the world needs a metal carles but sergeant d can be funny sometimes.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess I just don't care much about the music he's into and think it's kind of weird that he's fascinated by attack attack growing up

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did enjoy that chart

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^ alan n 100% otm w/"metal carles" zing

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

the one point dude makes, and it's a good one, at the end is the sticking point: assholes like me have been scowling at the shitty non-metal the kids dig for years and goin' "fuckin', Autopsy is way better than this." if the kids then get into Autopsy, purists do not get to go "oh fuck, you're still kids though." But in the actual world of people listening (vs. uninteresting meta-scene analysis, which is boring) I don't see too many old-school dudes grousing when kids like death metal. + Hot Topic ppl already loved Gothenburg melodic death for years, like over a decade, this isn't really a new trend

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dont know who carles is

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

the hipster runoff dude. sgt d's posting, and especially its end, is very much in the HRO house style.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 5 January 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ahh ok, never read that either.

(Algerian Goalkeeper) Vs (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was complaining in the Sandbox how YOB was skipping the entire midwest for their Tool tour. Fortunately they announced some headlining dates, including not only Chicago at the Empty Bottle, but my old hometown Dubuque! Yes, the long-suffering city that somehow gets singled out when someone wants to mention a shitty Midwestern city that no one cares about, most recently in the Love Goes To Buildings On Fire book.

Graveyard are also avoiding the midwest this month, though openers Radio Moscow are coming to Chicago just before the tour.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

i noticed that they were playing at the EB later this month, was thinking about going but kinda depends on the day of the week

La Lechera, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

debating the drive to Austin to finally see YOB.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

sorry that was boring and superfluous

let me offer some interesting info

i went to see this (pretty awesome) metal supergroup thing at the MCA a week or so ago, and it was great (aside from the barely credited but integral to the performance female string section), but the real news related to the incident from last year during which it was suggested that i go outside and get some fresh air because my feathers were ruffled due to a tasteless rape joke -- jef/leviathan dude was the designated drummer for this ensemble, and he didn't come out until maybe 2/3 of the way through the song (as planned, i'm sure)

then he started just BANGING on the drums, and the conductor (jr robinson) went over to talk to him like hey cool it dude, and he cooled it a little. then he went right back to banging at top volume. another little talk. then he threw his drumsticks behind him and sulked for the rest of the show.

everyone else was super professional, and the harmonium dude totally stole the show, but this guy came off like a giant baby at an art museum. ha.

La Lechera, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

alan n 100% otm w/"metal carles" zing

― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, January 5, 2012 5:46 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it's not a zing, he spends a lot of his time actively and by his own admission writing blog posts in 'the Carles voice'

Buster Mottrhymes (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really good album I totally missed last year: Astrohenge II by Astrohenge. Instrumental, progressive death/doom metal.

Doran, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

First spam of the new year! Drunken skate punk classic: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-gang-greens-another-wasted-night/

Midnight Maniac (J3ff T.), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

One month till my speech in Berlin - time to start seriously overdosing on 80s German thrash. Currently listening to Living Death's Vengeance of Hell, which is OK.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 9 January 2012 02:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hellbound has its top Canadian albums of 2011 up. It's always one of my personal favourite polls to participate in. It was a very good year for heavy music here.

http://www.hellbound.ca/2012/01/top-10-canadian-metal-albums-of-2011/

A. Begrand, Monday, 9 January 2012 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy hell, the Liberteer album is awesome.

Simon H., Monday, 9 January 2012 06:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shit Simon H... I just came here to say exactly the same thing. I just had a very satisfying first listen to that.

Doran, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that one seems to be the grind record for people who don't normally like grind and also the people that do.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like it when it gets all orchestral and shit.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

holy shit nightwish released an album last year? i have lost track of time

markers, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Slayer day of I'll Be Your Mirror in London is looking more and more like the greatest day of a festival ever: SLAYARGH! Wolves In The Throne Room, Melvins, Yob, Sleep. And there's more Yob news coming tomorrow apparently.

Doran, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

you have time to listen to it and vote for it along with lulu and 8 others markers.

as does rockapads if he finds his way here

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i listened to so little new metal last year -- i couldn't vote

markers, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought the same but in the end there were at least 20 metal albums i was able to vote for

they accumulate

Mordy, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

and you have til sunday to listen to the spotify playlist and vote

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 10 January 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

As Adrien mentioned above, the Christian Mistress is great. No curveballs thrown, just more of exactly what they do so well.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, no real changes, just better produced. "Haunted Hunted" is the one track I keep going back to.

Meanwhile the Wizard Rifle album is a total, indescribable blast.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 12 January 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, the Guardian is embracing metal at the moment:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/jan/12/voivod-to-the-death-demo-metal

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quite agree that this group of nobodies has done nothing for contemporary pop music

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

need to hear the new Christian Mistress

the show I was doing for them in March has apparently been pulled as they're re-routing their tour :(

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

as no-one's mentioned the awesome Loincloth album yet I hereby break my normal habit and link to my own review of it http://drownedinsound.com/releases/16730/reviews/4144319

tumblr white's secret kool-aid drinker (DJ Mencap), Friday, 13 January 2012 11:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sunday morning new-download audition results: Lyra and I concur that Revilement and Saturnian Mist are, as she put it, "a little bit terrible", although she was into Saturnian Mist until the guy started shouting. Lacuna Coil survived for later listening in its entirety, although "Losing My Religion" didn't impress us much (but it got me trying to explain the concept of losing your religion to a 4.5-year-old when we'd had only half a cup of coffee between us, so that's something). She wasn't much into Syven, but I was. We both provisionally endorse Cardamon, although I'm not as sure as L is that her mother would like them, too.

That concludes the metal portion, as we also have to catch up on the last two Simple Minds albums, as I've discover I forgot about them...

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 15 January 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey, vote in the damn poll if you haven't already. Phil, Chuck, JD, everybody. What other poll gives you 50 votes?

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 15 January 2012 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

they didn't but they're all welcome to comment on the albums here
THE ILM METAL POLL 2011 RESULTS (All lurkers/non metalheads welcome to join in!)

hope everyone comes and joins the fun. Everyones welcome to discuss the albums.

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

only listened to the first first songs in the car so far but on the basis of those first few, fucking A this new one by RAM is tremendous! It sounds kinda like earlier Judas Priest crossed something more proggy - not epic prog just sorta spacey structures - fucking great so far

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 January 2012 02:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay - immediately on the "Need to listen" list. Thanks!

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 January 2012 02:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

TRACKLIST
1 Death...
2 ...Comes from the Mouth Beyond

sold!

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 16 January 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, this new Lacuna Coil isn't bad. Some of the songs still have their trademark random-note-progression "melody"-writing style, but at least a few seemed genuinely catchy to me on first listen, like they used to!

But then, you can download the Cardamon album, Sun as Never, from their website for free.

http://www.cardamon.nl/cardamon/Sun_as_Never.html

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 16 January 2012 05:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Lacuna Coil is better than the last album for sure. But wow, is that Linkin Park-ification of "Losing my Religion" ever awful. It's always neat to see European metal bands unironically cover mainstream pop tunes, something American bands would never do, but they often do it so straight-faced and by the book that they lose all nuance.

A. Begrand, Monday, 16 January 2012 07:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

This means nothing to me...

Siegbran, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

aah, vienna!

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Monday, 16 January 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

See, that's a pretty cool cover.

A. Begrand, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm loving the new Woods of Ypres record, and it makes me angry that this is the last work we'll have from David Gold.

Best record out of the four 2012 releases I've heard thus far.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 January 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love the album, it's so much more cohesive than Woods IV, which was pretty great in its own right. David's lyrics could be corny as hell, but they had a way of getting to me, and some of the sadder songs here pack a bigger punch now unfortunately.

I'm trying to see if I can post the full unexpurgated interview I did in December at MSN. It just might have been his last, and it's pretty revealing.

A. Begrand, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to read it so I hope you get the right permissions to make it happen.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

It'll either go up at MSN or Terrorizer. I'm sort of waiting for the Terrorizer issue to come out, just to be polite.

A. Begrand, Monday, 16 January 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw Thou, The Body and Kowloon Walled City last night... epic heavy destruction.
Still can't figure out what the hell the guitarist/singer from The Body was playing through but it rattled my bowels a bit it was so low and thick...

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

sean is back! (you didnt vote in the poll you swine!)

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp that's a sweet show man

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I've been out of the loop, yo..I'm weak.. lol!
I would've voted Trap Them, Weekend Nachos, Battalis, Rotten Sound, Will Haven, Rwake, Cave In, Lantlos, Deafheaven, Wolves in the Throne Room for my top 10 of the year..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

trap them record is fabulous

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Batillus.. I meant.
See, out of it! lol

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ didn't vote either did you?
xp

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

no i don't listen to enough metal to feel good about submitting a ballot

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

but i will be watching the results

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm really dissapointed its so low on the list.. I was litening to other stuff this year and nothing had the fire that that had IMO

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh well make sure you guys post on the thread and give your comments (i think the poll haters on this thread dont want their sanctuary ruined)

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp yeah i'm a sucker for hardcore-influenced metal to begin with and i thought they really nailed the good points of that sound

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

wrod.. I got a real soft spot for that too, its just a better hybrid of stuff.. you get that raw rooted DIY in your face attitude with good metal riffing and hardcore fury.. its perfect!! lol!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

and Chris Maggio from Coliseum joining Trap Them is fucking epic... he definitly breathed new life into that already crushing band

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of hardcore influenced metal, going to be checking out the album from St. Louis' Everything Went Black later tonight. Press says influences like Black Flag and Entombed, which means it could be fantastic or swing very much in the opposite direction.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmm... sounds good, or maybe not. lol!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everything Went Black sound fine, pretty much straight down the middle dirty hardcore a la Trap Them or Cursed. I like that sound, but I think it's hitting the point where they need to start doing something new/interesting with it.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh you just namechecked cursed, now i need to check out e.w.b.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 01:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, EWB's okay. But with a new Black Breath album coming soon, it's going to be overshadowed pretty quickly.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 03:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Good news, love Black Breath!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 03:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't wait for the new Black Breath...

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 06:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why did I think Lantlos was Mexican? WHY? LOL!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

What do you guys think of Sam Dunn's series, Metal Evolution?

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 01:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it's very well done. Every metal fan will have their own gripes with what was left out, but Dunn's doing a great job offering a good, lucid history of metal for neophytes. Except for the unironic phonetic pronunciation of NWOBHM, his constant "nawobbum"-ing cracked me up.

Hope this comes out on DVD!

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree.. He's adoing a pretty good job. There is never gonna be an absolute stardard to where bands fit into the different sub genres, and there a few things here and there that made me go, huh?.. but for the most part its done pretty damn well. I've liked all his docs actually..

The only thing that really got me in a twist was in the Thrash episode, he goes to Soundwave Studios where at the time of that taping, Death Angel, Exodus, Testament and Skinlab were all rehearsing there and he talks about how it was a place he wanted to visit cuz of the history of these bands all reheasing there over the years.. When they show the building it has a caption of San Francisco, but Soundwave is in OAkland. For whatever reason I was like, you fucking dumming! lol!

I know in the history of thrash the SF bay are is super important,(I've seen with my own eyes living here all my life) but very few members of any of those bands ever lived in SF.. nit picky on my part, but whatevs! lol!

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I also know about some dirt as to why Machine Head nor Vio-Lence wasn't mentioned any where in the thing, even though Flynn was interviewed for it..

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've only seen a couple of episodes and it's cool, but kinda weird to interview Randy Holden about Blue Cheer... and not even mention "Population II," one of the metallest albums of the 70s.

Except for the unironic phonetic pronunciation of NWOBHM, his constant "nawobbum"-ing cracked me up.

I used to do that! Most of my nerdier metal buds did.

the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, ther nawobbum thing was wierd.. I've never heard anyone do that... I blame Cananda!

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I say nerwobbum. Don't tell me I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING EACH AND EVERYONE OF THE LETTERS?

Doran, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol! I guess there no other way to shorten than up, I'd just never thought to do it..

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 07:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Used to call it phonetically back when it was happening & I was going to the gigs & buying the records, & still do. Same with most of my friends who were into it.

Wandering Boy Poet, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 12:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

There is a track from the new Worm Ouroboros streaming on Pitchfork and it's a real corker. This is the first record with Aesop on drums and it's a huge improvement.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 19:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's a great record. Really gets under your skin, depression-wise, after a while. I was glad when I was done writing the review, not because it was a bad album, but because it was seriously affecting my mental outlook.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's indeed excellent. I was a big fan of the debut and the new one is even more low-key.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just got sent the new Monarch record, which I'm really excited about.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 19:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I got sent that as well. Why should I be excited for it? (Not sarcasm, just unfamiliar with their work)

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

because they're awesome

Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Monarch's monstrously heavy French doom, and the new one sounds great so far. Three songs, 35 minutes. Dead Men Tell No Tales turned me on to them back in 2007.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nice to see the site back up and running! Happy new year y'all. :)

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Happy New Year Nate!

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 23:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

nate your band got in our poll!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 19 January 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Much appreciated sirs! It was a great year for us, and we are looking forward to a bigger and better year now.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Went off that Liberteer album spectacularly quickly to be honest. The new Cannibal Corpse on the other hand is a fucking belter...

Doran, Thursday, 19 January 2012 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

My favorite metal-related things so far this year are not themselves actually metal:

- I'm really loving Andy Julia's darkwave band Soror Dolorosa. Recommended if you liked the Sound or the gloomier bits of the Icicle Works, or if Interpol made you nostalgic for the original New Wave.

- I was a big fan of the Gathering circa Mandylion, but they kind of lost me after that, and I wasn't much into Anneke's solo work. Until now. This new album, Everything Is Changing is fabulous high-energy alt-pop.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy hell, the new Napalm Death is fucking fantastic. I'm pretty sure the guest saxophone on the third track is by John Zorn, and there are probably some guest vocalists, too, but I don't have a press release, just a download, so I can't be sure yet.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit, sounds fantastic.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 20 January 2012 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey Nevermore fans, did you know that there was a precursor to that band? You can find out about it in this week's spam: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-sanctuarys-into-the-mirror-black/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 20 January 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

At the risk of being laughed off of here am I the only one looking forward to the new Iron Maiden live DVD/CD? Yeah, I kinda thought so.

Steampig, Saturday, 21 January 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've seen Maiden live five times since 2003, and they're fucking killer, but I'm not sure any of their live records from the 2000s sums up their recent output the way Live After Death encapsulates their early peak.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 21 January 2012 16:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I agree. I saw the Live After Death tour in person and love the DVD but I'm still a sucker for them. 2003 was the last time I saw them so I guess I look at it as a cheap way to catch the highlights of the most recent tour.

Steampig, Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of course I'm looking forward to the new Maiden DVD!

No, you can't top Live After Death, but they're still tremendous live, and their DVDs are always great fun. Plus the last album was their best since 1988, so it'll be great to hear the new stuff. Last time I saw them they only played "El Dorado".

A. Begrand, Saturday, 21 January 2012 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

"A new Burzum album, titled "Umskiptar" (Metamorphoses), is scheduled for release in May 2012 on Byelobog Productions. "Umskiptar" consists of 65 minutes of skaldic metal, recorded in Grieghallen Studio in Bergen in September 2011. The lyrics on "Umskiptar" are all taken from a Norse poem, Völuspá. For an English translation of the lyrics see the book "Sorcery And Religion In Ancient Scandinavia". The original Norse lyrics for "Umskiptar" can be found http://www.burzum.org/eng/discography/official/2012_umskiptar.shtml "

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 22 January 2012 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Howdy - not really following this thread, but here are samples of the new Drudkh, out Feb 24th

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006T3MB86/ref=dm_sp_alb/276-8287266-9656466

StanM, Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just to elaborate on the Anneke thing, I relistened to her other solo records last week, and saying I was not much into them is being kind. Yeek. Maudlin, lifeless, blech. The new one, on the other hand, is still not metal, but it sounds like a record whose author was once in a metal band, and isn't trying to convince anybody that she wouldn't ever be in one again.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 23 January 2012 01:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't say too much about it just yet, 'cause we haven't even officially announced the project, let alone given it a street date, but I brought home the "Mikael & Steven" album this weekend, and it's fucking fantastic. Is it metal? Hell no. To me, it sounds like a cross between Kid A, the first two Peter Gabriel solo albums, and some other dark '70s prog stuff like Univers Zero or Van der Graaf Generator. But it's beautiful, too.

Brought home the new Soulfly, too, but haven't really dipped into that one yet. Personally, I prefer Cavalera Conspiracy. Still, it's supposed to be their most aggressive one yet, and with the bassist from Static-X and Asesino, and the drummer from Borknagar, I'm ready to believe it.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 23 January 2012 02:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a big Steven Wilson fan, but that looks interesting.

Meanwhile, the new Meshuggah album is great. Where Obzen felt like an amalgamation of everything the band had done up until then, Koloss returns to challenging listeners more, throwing some interesting curveballs. And there are no"djent" riffs to be found; they leave that to all the kiddie bands imitating them these days. Easily their best since Nothing. I'll have an interview with Haake up at MSN around Feb. 1st.

A. Begrand, Monday, 23 January 2012 04:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Excited to hear that Meshuggah!

In catching up with 2011 releases news, what the hell happened to Maylene and the Sons of Disaster? I know they've never been exactly a brilliant band, but their particular brand of southern fried metalcore was a guilty pleasure. But now, wow are they awful. IV might as well be a Shinedown album or something. This is terrible.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 January 2012 15:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man, really want to hear that new meshuggah album!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 23 January 2012 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that Maylene record was a pretty big disaster. My guess is, their previous albums didn't do as well as people had hoped and so this was a last-ditch effort to find that elusive success by going for rock radio. Unfortunately, I guess nobody realized that rock radio isn't really a path to success for anybody anymore (except maybe Five Finger Death Punch).

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 23 January 2012 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was just handed the new DragonForce album. There was some mild dismay at the fact that while there is a song with "Storm" in the title, and one with "Sword" in its title, there is no song with "Fire" or "Flames" in its title.

More seriously, this is a more aggressive, and more concise, album from them. There's only one song that's more than six minutes long, plus you get an acoustic version of one song (presumably this will be a bonus track on the deluxe edition, or something). I like it, but I've always liked DragonForce.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Eh, tbh, if I'm going to listen to DragonForce, I want long songs! Only one song over six minutes isn't really a selling point for me.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, the other songs are all in the 4-5 minute range, and the new singer is much better than ZP was, at least to my ear.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 23 January 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds promising. I can't ever not like DragonForce.

A. Begrand, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm about halfway through the album now, and while it still sounds every bit a DragonForce album, there are a lot of different sounds on it (more human-ish guitar playing, weirder synth tones, occasional slow drumming) and it's really, genuinely heavy at times. I'm liking this a lot.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh I'm definitely going to check it out, I've just always liked the longer epics.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 January 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I also like DragonForce.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wolves in the Throne room plyed in SF tonight and I didn't go... for fucks sake I'm getting old!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 05:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

i continue to be shocked by people enjoying meshuggah. however considering i have gotten a few calls about ordering the new ibanez $5000 meshuggah signature, i support them from a business perspective. go meshuggah, you terrible terrible band!

blurgh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw i just did the sabermetrics on our sales of metal guitars last year and we sold more 7/8 strings than 6 strings. which is insane, and thats w/o counting baritones.

blurgh (jjjusten), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 08:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

7-string guitars are still a thing? damn.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 13:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of all the bands to single out as "terrible terrible", Meshuggah strikes me as a weird one.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 14:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're not terrible, but unless I hear something really revelatory on this album, I'm probably gonna shrug them off.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I'd say Meshuggah is mediocre at worst.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

crazy

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like to think of them as the powerman 5000 of tech metal.

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm not even sure what that means but yeah basically I think they are awful

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

You're meshuggina, John.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 02:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

jjj actually likes powerman 5000 so just ignore him.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

A big ol' Fenriz interview:

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/fenriz-isengard-darkthrone-interviewed/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

that reads really weirdly, like part email interview part telephone

still cool tho

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it also kind of just dives right into the commentary track question with no setup or anything, sort of confusing without some sort of context via an introductory paragraph. Anyway, minor quibbles, its a cool interview.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Decibel's Feb issue has the Top 25 most anticipated albums and a pretty thorough release schedule. I'm surprised they didn't include the Electric Wizard and Ufomammut releases in their top 25, but otherwise was a cool feature. These stand out for me:

Ancestors - In Dreams And Time (Tee Pee) Apr
Bible of the Devil - For the Love of Thugs and Fools (Cruz Del Sur) May 8
Christian Mistress - Possession (Relapse) Feb 28
Corrosion Of Conformity (Candlelight) Feb 28
Death - Vivus (Relapse) Feb 28
Drudkh - Eternal Turn Of The Wheel (Season Of Mist) Feb 24
Napalm Death - Utilitarian (Century Media) Feb 28
Orange Goblin – A Eulogy For The Damned (Candlelight) Feb 14
Sigh - In Somniphobia (Candlelight) Mar 20
Ufomammut - Oro: Opus Primum (Neurot) Apr
Van Halen - A Different Kind Of Truth (Interscope) Feb 7

Also coming: Ancestors, Baroness, Black Math Horseman, Black Sabbath, Church Of Misery, Cobalt, The Darkness, Electric Wizard, Ghost, Gojira, Gozu, Graveyard, Greenleaf, Gypsyhawk, High On Fire, Horisont, Kylesa, Kyuss, The Mars Volta, Neurosis, Om, Queens Of The Stone Age, Saint Vitus, Shrinebuilder, Sons Of Otis, Tool, Torche, Truckfighters, Wight, Witch Mountain.

Anyone heard anything?

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh ghost show is tonight and i am really stuffed head sick do i go

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

buddy of mine on fb had a blast when they were here

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've heard one cut from the Christian Mistress and it was great. Word from on high is that it is consistently good.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is only Ghost's second tour, correct? They're in Mpls tonight, I believe. I was sick as a dog for Slayer/Megadeth over a year ago, and I just loaded up on cold meds. Glad I went. I was at the Ghost show last night, and it was awesome. So great to see a band committed to costumes and stage show, not to mention the anonymity. An Anonymous Ghoul addresses that in an interview:

Offstage, do you guys like to get wild and party or are you pretty straitlaced?
We have this anonymity bond. We don't regularly get invites because nobody really knows who we are. I wouldn't say that we are a hundred percent clean in every aspect, but we are quite innocent in comparison to a lot of other groups that would jump at every opportunity to go nuts. We're here for something else. Some of the single guys in the band might think it's a drag, but those of us who aren't are pretty happy.

One of the strangest/greatest moments of the show was when they launched into a pretty straight, and quite pretty, version of "Here Comes The Sun." It was oddly moving, the spell not even completely broken in the end when someone inevitably shouts, "SATAN!!!"

A dude was wearing a Repugnant t-shirt. I guess Papa Emeritus is supposedly Tobias Forge of Repugnant/Subvision. It's hard to tell listening to Repugnant's Epitome Of Darkness. It would be just as well if it's unconfirmed, as it would be more fun if they maintain the mystery.

Blood Ceremony were great too. I feel like their sound (especially the thick Sabbathy drum sound!) and musicianship was better, but Ghost still put on a more exciting show. But they're very different kinds of bands, despite the common occult interests.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Christian Mistress is probably my second favorite album of 2012 (I'm counting The Devil's Blood as 2012 because screw Europe). It is METAL.

Also, John: yes. Are you going to let tiny germs overcome METAL?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Christian Mistress is probably my second favorite album of 2012 (I'm counting The Devil's Blood as 2012 because screw Europe). It is METAL.

Haha, this is my case exactly as of right now.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would also like to nominate Iron Savior's "Heavy Metal Never Dies" for inclusion in the pantheon of super awesome/cheesy European power metal anthems about heavy metal alongside Primal Fear's "Metal Is Forever" and Dream Evil's "the Book of Heavy Metal."

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

heard Christian Mistress and CoC once each so far

the former is sounding on point and the latter respectably solid, if not a candidate for 'old folx showing younguns how it's done' status

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Christian Mistress is probably my second favorite album of 2012 (I'm counting The Devil's Blood as 2012 because screw Europe). It is METAL.

Agreed, very stellar. Will be reviewing it for the AMG.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

can someone explain to me Ghost? I'm mean I get it, but I don't don'tget why everyone is digging them.. they're terrible.

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you hate Blue Oyster Cult too?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Super-catchy Blue Oyster Cult-inspired hard rock about Satan with fun imagery? What's not to love?

Yeah, digging the COC, it's more a return to the Blind sound than the Animosity sound, but considering how good Blind is, I'm okay with that.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

maybe thats exactly why I don't like it..

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

:O You don't like Blue Oyster Cult?!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

BOC are great; maybe Ghost will be, but that first record isn't.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

only listened to "black to gold" and "haunted hunted" but !!! re christian mistress

Mordy, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not really. but I only know the crap I hear on the radio and it never did anything for me, so I never bothered to look any further.

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Get thee copies of Secret Treaties, Agents of Fortune, Spectres, and Fire of Unknown Origin, stat!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh my main motivation for going to the ghost show (which is looking less likely with every wave of headcrushing pain) is to see blood ceremony

blurgh (jjjusten), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to see Blood Ceremony. Alas, no southern swing on this tour.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Headcrushing pain is metal.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bummed I couldn't make it to the Ghost/Blood Ceremony show last night.

Man, Sean, I used to feel the same way about BOC, but hearing Secret Treaties really opened my eyes - there is so much more to love about BOC than what classic rock radio would have you believe.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have a soft spot for Spectres.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous: You don't have release dates for the rest of that Decibel list do you?

Doran, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ok against all good judgement I am going to go and patient zero this show. Because, yknow, horns

blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 01:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sorry guys.. BOC is dudsville.. its a little before my time, so I guess I can't put into perspective, and I have a hard time calling it metal... Hard rock for sure, but the organ wipping through it, or their brand of big anthem rock type shit just doesn't dop it for me. its not dangerous, and I can't imagine it being dangerous even for the time. Maybe thats why I'm not feeling Ghost or Blood Ceremony.. its overthought Camero Rock at best. I'll take Thin Lizzy anyday over that shit.

SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

^drummer

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Stop that Kerr... lol!!

I was 8 units short of a BA in Music, sir. I know a thing or three! lol!

SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

short of a picnic? ;)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

BOC are the Steely Dan of 70s hard rock. For me, that's a good thing, though I will admit their softer material leaves me ultra cold. I like them at their most snarling and misanthropic. When they get pretty, I hit Skip.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Steely Dan, but BOC just doesn't strike that chord with me.

And I like picnics, too! lol!

SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Skip is Phil's kitten

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Thursday, 26 January 2012 03:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Get thee copies of Secret Treaties, Agents of Fortune, Spectres, and Fire of Unknown Origin

Not Tyranny And Mutation??? Kids these days are so weird.

xhuxk, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mark Reale has died, Riot just confirmed it via Facebook.

http://youtu.be/nI_tDv5MBso

A. Begrand, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry to hear that news. Fire Down Under is an all-timer.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Abigail Williams are some trend hopping motherfuckers, but they actually do a not awful job of it. They're like the metal Ween without the sense of humor at this point.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 January 2012 04:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok so show report: 1st band was whose name i have already forgotten but it has VV in it to make a W was mediocre, blood ceremony became tiresome quickly but oh man. Ghost live is like juggernaut level pummelingly heavy, totally surprising vs the album (which I like!) but i fear that the record fell victim to clever old schooly production which did nothing to prepare me for the full on badassery on display. fucking fantastic, do not miss them if you get the chance to see them.

blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 05:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

People were singing along like crazy for Ghost. I love that its all the scary metal imagery with such an uplifting, romantic sound

dave cool, Thursday, 26 January 2012 06:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

just wanna weigh in to say that like every other heavy metal fan ever I love the fuck outta BOC

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 26 January 2012 06:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

ya see, none of my friends, most of which, severe metalheads, have ever gotten into BOC..

SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 January 2012 07:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

What is this heresy?!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 17:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Despite (or perhaps because of) JJ's hate for them, I agree with Adrien that the new Meshuggah is monstrous. It kind of feels like what would happen if Sanford Parker produced a Meshuggah record.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had never heard of these guys Amulet until an hour ago but they make the best tipsy proto-metal-into-NWOBHM ish I've heard in 2012 this side of the Christian Mistress album

they're from London

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk how I fucked that URL up but www.facebook.com/amuletmetal

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

...and you all know how to cut and paste

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Please explain.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Despite (or perhaps because of) JJ's hate for them, I agree with Adrien that the new Meshuggah is monstrous.

depending on how you mean monstrous i might agree with you

blurgh (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well played, sir. I'm still suggest banning you.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 January 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guitarists from Testament and Death Angel filling in for Scott Ian who has taken ill, and Gene Hoglan filling in for Benante while is at his sick mothers bedside... Pulling together to help out and keep the fans happy, or unable to afford to stop this tour for financial reasons? Maybe a little of both, yeah?

SeanWayne, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Either way that's a really cool show of solidarity, and I bet it's making for some fun shows right now.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sean--just get Secret Treaties by BOC. You might not like any of their other stuff, but that album is really perfect in the way that early Scorps and Priest and ZZ Top is perfect.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 29 January 2012 08:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know, man...

SeanWayne, Sunday, 29 January 2012 08:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Its lost on me..

SeanWayne, Sunday, 29 January 2012 09:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sean, don't fear the reaper.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 29 January 2012 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Went to Gigantour last night. First time seeing Lacuna Coil; they played five songs in 20 minutes or so and were pretty good. Cristina and the dude wore matching outfits (red button-down shirt, black vest), which made them look like waiters at a chain restaurant. Second time seeing Volbeat (they opened for Metallica at MSG), and they played at least three or four too many songs, but they had Hank Shermann of Mercyful Fate on guest guitar and he got three or four killer solos, so that much was cool as hell. Sixth time seeing Motörhead; the set list was heavy on oldies ("Bomber," "Damage Case," "Killed By Death," "Going to Brazil," "The One to Sing the Blues" and of course "Ace of Spades" and "Overkill" - the only new song was "I Know How to Die") but they fucking rocked it, as always. Fifth time seeing Megadeth, and probably the most impressive, even though Mustaine's vocals got lost more than a few times. They played three new songs in a row - "Public Enemy No. 1," "Guns, Drugs & Money" and "Whose Life Is It Anyways?" - and the crowd knew all three, which was impressive. They really rip it up on the super-thrashy, super-techy stuff, though; watching him and Chris Broderick trade solos on "Hangar 18" was genuinely thrilling. It was Mustaine's daughter's birthday, and he brought her onstage. She didn't seem embarrassed by her dad, despite being 14. Overall, a fun night.

Oh, and I shot a video interview with Mustaine pre-show which will be on Roadrunner's website later this week.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 29 January 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lacuna Coil were a whole lot better when they were touring off of good albums.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's probably true for most bands, though.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 04:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous--were we really on Decibel's list or were we on your addendum?

In other news: YOB played in front of 16,000 people last night. Fuck yeah.

Nate Carson, Monday, 30 January 2012 04:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kind of amazing brutal WITTR live review in SF Weekly. Worth a read!

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2012/01/live_review_12312_wolves_in_the_throne_room.php

Nate Carson, Monday, 30 January 2012 05:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I find myself feeling rather unenthusiastic about attending live performances at the moment. Maybe I'm just burnt out on it?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 30 January 2012 06:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm psyched to see Ghost/Blood Ceremony on Tuesday.

Nate Carson, Monday, 30 January 2012 09:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

idk that guy just sounds really cranky, i've seen wittr live and they're pretty good.

i've also seen worm ouroboros live and until they play a venue with seats they're going to have problems with people talking over them. this is because metal crowds contain assholes and also because of their music.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 13:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ugh, I gave up after the paragraph where he brought up illegible band logos for the third time. Also, its not the fault of the band if the venue's "cheery" intercom announcements ruined the mood.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

good work leading in with a class-based zing there, it's about time someone remembered black metal's strictly proletarian roots

Saltines of Pink - 'Whites Me Tumblr?' (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 January 2012 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

the sad thing is, wittr haters will probably think its a great article purely cuz its a negative review.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i can think of a board where some halfwits would think its a great article

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 30 January 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

at least WITTR's matching skintight sleeveless sweaters look good though.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Monday, 30 January 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, it's uninformed and wrong in so many ways. But I did chuckle.

Nate Carson, Monday, 30 January 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

It amazes me why someone would review a show if they clearly don't like the genre of music. If you don't like it, you're not gonna know the nuances that appeal to those that like it, and if you do know it, and don;t like it, its those nuances that will be the things you slag.. I'm bummed I missed this show, but I probably would've been dissapointed by the fog machine.

SeanWayne, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to the new album by Australia's I Exist, II: The Broken Passage. Apparently they started out as more of a hardcore band, but this album sounds pretty sludgy to me. Reminds me on a more playful Kylesa at times.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was playing that yesterday, it pushed buttons pretty well on a limited level but not revelatory... the most interesting thing that struck me abt it was that I could see it finding the same quasi-mall metal audience that say Cancer Bats have now

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, its definitely nowhere as good as Kylesa, but they kept popping to mind while I listened. I'm pretty generous when it comes to Southern sludge sounding stuff.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

on spotify?

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

The one stoner/sludge album I love right now is Giant King's Dismal Hollow. They're like The Four Horsemen, but sing about the Civil War instead of the fact that rawkin' is their bidness.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds interesting. I got sent a promo for the I Exist album, so I'm not sure if its out yet or on Spotify.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surprisingly impressed with this new Behold! The Monolith recording. I'm generally not interested in new bands with growly vox (I like growly vox but I'm sick of them) -- but the songs on this record just keep throwing creative curve balls and high energy twists. It's gonna be infectious if I let it.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the riffs on that album are impressive. Plus the cover art is great.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

it the world of band vs band drama... being played out on facebook as we speak (sort of) the upset rambling of one Chris Kontos, drummer for Attitude Adjustment, (former drummer of Machine Head) upset that he recieved a nasty email from Donny Paycheck, drummer for Zeke, who books a club in Tacoma, Washington where Kontos had to cancel a show due to not being able to line all the bands up he wanted for a tour stop their. Kontos insists he was very apologetic about having to a cancel, but yet Donny was shitty about it.. Now there is tough guy stuff going on(I'm makin calls, he'll get his) and the response of, has anyone ever even heard of Attitude Adjustment?
I simply reminded Kontos via facebook, that he needs to remeber that he's dealing with a band(Zeke) who blew the advance of their first record on Harleys and crank..

Isn't punk rock great!! such a community of brotherhood and love!!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Zeke might be the worst band ever.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Come on man, Limp Bizkit exist.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fastnbulbous--were we really on Decibel's list or were we on your addendum?

Yes, it's listed under summer releases.

Witch Mountain, TBA [Profound Lore]

Signed to Profound Lore, nice. Can't wait to hear the new stuff!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Martyrdod fucking crush!
www.thesleepingshaman.com/news/martyrdod-dark-lords-of-swedish-crust-sign-with-southern-lord/

SeanWayne, Thursday, 2 February 2012 04:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks Fastnbulbous. That's flattering! Good thing we are rehearsing every day right now. We will deliver!

Nate Carson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 07:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

BTW, Ghost + Blood Ceremony was great last night. I could go on and on, but hands down it's a FUN show. And based on the turnout, I will not be surprised if Ghost gets REALLY big soon. Especially with the just announced support tour they're doing with Opeth & Mastodon. Satan is very happy right now.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 09:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

but is he laughing and spreading his wings like in the days of olde??????

Ioannis, Thursday, 2 February 2012 10:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

So excited for that Mastodon, Opeth, Ghost tour. Although, a small part of me wishes the Chicago show was an Opeth headline since I've never seen them before and I've seen Mastodon 4 times now.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Opeth were amazing on their fall tour with Katatonia. I'm tempted because the stop here is them headlining, but I'm not a big fan of the others. Though I'm sure live I'd enjoy them more than I do on record.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 2 February 2012 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know anything about opeth but ghost & mastodon sounds like it could be cool

markers, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Of course I'm going to this.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 2 February 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would go if Opeth still played metal. I'm all for bands "growing up," but I felt burned by their last show here. And Mastodon--ugh.

At this point, I would only go to see Ghost, and I just saw them two nights ago.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I want to thank aero, J3ff, and anyone else who was praising the new RAM album, Death, within my earshot. I liked the one song they had streaming (and said so above somewhere), but it didn't prepare me for the onslaught of awesome that is the record. Great start to 2012.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ooh, I still need to hear that one.

Adrien was right about that King Giant record, its really good. So many bands would sound like they were playing dress up when singing out Appalachian hollows and moonshine, but these dudes sell every word.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

RAM is preparing me for the arrival of my Judas Priest box set this afternoon. Rifftastic.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey Nate, would you agree that ghost is much much heavier live than on record? Because it seemed pretty notably different to me. Also lead dude sings better live imo.

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

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RatherGoWild, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, this Chaos In Tejas festival has the weirdest lineup. Saint Vitus! Winter! Municipal Waste! Church Of Misery! Ted Leo? The Clean? Best Coast? Thou! Loss!

Goofy.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok, that is hilarious.

wait just one minute... winter reformed!??

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

So it would seem.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

Love how many bands on that have 'UK' appended to their logos.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

and JP and NZ too. Worst trademarks ever.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Winter were awesome when I saw them at the Power of the Riff festival.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy crap, that might be better than spending the Bank Holiday weekend here.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha, I'd like to see Saint Vitus and then Best Coast, quite frankly.

A. Begrand, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow that lineup is reading my mind

bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Am always so jealous of Chaos In Tejas, every year has a fantastic lineup

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not that I'm disliking the Nightwish album, exactly, but my favorite gothic-metal thing of the moment is Memento Mori, by Lunar Path. First album after some demos and singles. Stripped-down compared to Nightwish, but with a melodic swoopiness that seems more in Nightwish's vein than, say, Lacuna Coil's. Also, their Facebook bio is a game attempt at second-language overwriting. "They're clearly out to kick ass and take names, no compromise." Nothing pisses me off more than compromised name-taking. Just first names, I guess. Or maybe asking for both names but only writing down the initials? Anyway, good to have none of that with Lunar Path. Helps the live shows run smoothly, too, when you don't have to take attendance.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

wait what is the clean doing there?
that sounds like a pretty awesome weekend even though i freely admit that i don't know most of those bands.

La Lechera, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Xeno & Oaklander seems even more incongruous than Best Coast or The Clean tbh

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Death metal with vocals that sound like that one episode of Animaniacs where Wakko belches the ABCs! Plus you can download the whole thing free from the band's website via the link at the bottom of the article: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-demilichs-nespithe/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ghost sounded better than the record because it was live in a big hall with pro-sound. Otherwise, I was surprised how much it was produced to sound like the album.

I look at that album now as a soundtrack to the live show. You can't fully "get" Ghost until you've seen them. The music is only part of what they're doing. It's theater, and it works.

Nate Carson, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

favorite gothic-metal thing of the moment is Memento Mori, by Lunar Path.

Ha -- Same title as the second Flyleaf album.

xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2012 23:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just got my ticket for the Mastodon/Opeth/Ghost tour, super excited. Sick of ridiculous fees though, the fees were 41% of the face value of the ticket.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

:O

markers, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was tempted to go, but just saw both Ghost and Mastodon. It's at the Riviera again, and the sound sucked there for Mastodon. The clincher is that Devil's Blood and In Solitude are playing that same night at Bottom Lounge. I'm definitely doing that!

I'm also gonna see Van Halen with my cousin at United Center. He also wanted to see Guns 'n' Roses at House of Blues. However tix are $125 + fees, kind of insulting given the state of the band. We flipped a coin and VH with Diamond Dave it is! Listening to the new VH today and it's kind of awesome! It's definitely better than Diver Down, and possibly even 1984.

Fastnbulbous, Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the sound at the Riv sucks, but I've missed out on Ghost before and I've never seen Opeth.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty fucking impressed by the new VH. "Tattoo" sucks dead dog ass, but every other song I've heard (I've only made it a little past the halfway mark) has a power and fury I've rarely heard from them. Hell, some of these songs are easily among the fastest and heaviest they've ever recorded, going back all the way to the earliest days. I'm extremely pleasantly surprised.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, guess I'm going to have to give that album the time of day after all. "Tattoo" was so awful that I was all prepared to ignore the whole thing.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, the rest of the record is shockingly good.

In other news, in case I haven't mentioned it before, I'm going to be giving a talk on 80s German thrash next Sunday at Centrum Berlin, and anyone who's gonna be in the neighborhood is more than welcome to stop by. It's free and will run about two hours. I'll be giving a sort of general overview of the history, talking about stylistic tropes and political overtones, and playing music by Kreator, Sodom, Destruction, Holy Moses, Iron Angel, Grave Digger, Accept, Running Wild, Deathrow, Rage, Living Death, Erosion, Paradox and maybe even Tankard.

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really can't be arsed going to see Mastodon later, but I kind of want to see DEP and Red Fang so I need to get it in gear. I can always leave early.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know they placed decently on the metal poll, but man it seems like everyone is pretty down on Mastodon around here these days.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

my mate, who didn't care much for recent albums, went to see them in Zurich and really enjoyed it.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 6 February 2012 04:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

As is the case with most bands, I find myself liking Mastodon's earlier stuff than the later,...

Actually, Unsane is probably one of the only bands where I can say I like the new stuff better..

SeanWayne, Monday, 6 February 2012 07:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm actually looking forward to hearing the newer Mastodon stuff, it seems they've been working at sharpening up the live performances of those songs, which vocally left a lot to be desired.

A. Begrand, Monday, 6 February 2012 07:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty stoked. I got hired to write an article on Black Sabbath, and another on Star Wars. Good weekend.

Nate Carson, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, they appear to have regressed to the point where they're an entry-level metal band - the sort you might go and see when you don't want to turn round at a Foo Fighters show and see your parents or your teacher. There's been what seems like a conscious attempt to mould everything down to 3-4 minute territory and it just doesn't work. It seems hard to believe just three years ago I was watching them covering 'The Bit' and now they'd be more likely to cover 'No-one Knows'.

A couple of points to note - Bill has tried to go full-on for the Josh Homme look he's played with for a couple of years now, but is carrying a few touring pounds and actually looks like Dylan Carlson. Secondly, I'd swear that there was some miming going on. If nobody's mouth is open and there's still singing over the PA... Plus the guitar tech inadvertently revealed while setting up that some of the guitar parts are on tape.

I couldn't stick it out and left before the hour mark.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Monday, 6 February 2012 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ When you go mainstream, people expect perfection (hence the taped parts, lipsyncing, etc).

This is a bad example, but didn't Creed get sued years ago by some concertgoer who complained that their show didn't sound like the album?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Friends of Metal - I'm interviewing a nameless ghoul tonight, can anyone who has seen Ghost live on the recent tour give me any pointers for questions? Does it really look like they're going to blow up in the states? I've read some pretty breathless reports. Is there anything about the shows I should know about having not seen them live myself? Cheers.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

Pretty stoked. I got hired to write an article on Black Sabbath, and another on Star Wars. Good weekend.

That's awesome! What a great weekend!

I've seen Mastodon four times now and enjoyed every one, but that recent Aragon live album was a little disappointing. I guess I'm surprised to see a lot of people, not so much in here, backpedal from them now that they've hit this level of success.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mastodon were real bad the last time I saw them, on the tail end of the Crack the Skye touring cycle. There seemed to be a lot of tension within the band itself, and they seemed really tired of playing that album from front to back. Hopefully they've rekindled their love for the material in the intervening time, because they had always been great before that show.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the 2 times i saw them way back at leviathan time they were fantastic

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw them once Leviathan era, twice Blood Mountain era and once right at the start of the Crack the Skye tour cycle.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

the first time i saw them was in a tiny club (glasgow cathouse) and it was like sardines. Leviathan ccouldn't have been out that long. Awesome gig. set was from remission and leviathan. Awesome stuff

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Doran - There were a ton of people at the Ghost show I saw, and I bet you every single one of them will go see them again next time.

There are the bands (like Pentagram) who people want to check off the list and say "I was there." Ghost is so god damn entertaining that it's an infectious experience you'd want to have again. They're the Disneyland of Satanic metal.

Nate Carson, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks. Talking to a ghoul right this instant...

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, Ghost was really good, but there's a bit of hyperbole happening here. I think the costumes and props are throwing off peoples' perspectives. Pentagram were more dynamic, expressive and fun. I would choose Pentagram over Ghost live at this point, at least until Ghost start touring on their next album. They have plenty of room for improvement, and then maybe they'll start to be as great as people are now claiming.

I'd swear that there was some miming going on. If nobody's mouth is open and there's still singing over the PA

That is a steaming load of B.S. I've seen Mastodon several times and have seen no such thing. They're just so tight you were hallucinating.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah, I forgot to mention upthread that the last time I saw them they were definitely singing live otherwise they'd be a little embarrassed about the quality of the pre-recorded tracks.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I only noticed it on the one song, and it was the very first one (Blasteroid, I think?). A Brent song with a very tuneful vocal. I didn't think it was likely, but I'm sure what I saw and I had a good view.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

It has come out that Sharon Osbourne fired Bill Ward... the hits keep on coming.. what a miserable Cunt!

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

So...if you're gonna be in Berlin this weekend, come hear me talk about German thrash!

https://www.facebook.com/events/164126797035079/

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 00:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

If that Bill Ward rumour is true, it'll hardly be a surprise.

And Phil, I would if I could! Best of luck with all that.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Its not a surprise, but fucking shameful and I wish people would boycott their tour. <---- so not gonna happen, but man, it really bums me out

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 04:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't for the life of me imagine why anybody who cares about the music of Black Sabbath in any way would go see Black Sabbath in 2012 - it's like saying "I don't care about their music, I just want to say I was in the same building as the guys who once made good music"

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 05:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think they have it in them to make great music still, look at that second Heaven & Hell record.. awesome songs on that record. I just think that doing it without Bill Ward is totally disrespectful, in the same way Van Halen was disrespectful to Micheal Anthony, and that new record is great!! but would've been perfect with MA.. its just a sad reminder that its the music business..

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 06:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, as someone who's lived in places that have had no hope in hell of having the original Black Sabbath play there, if I had the chance I would absolutely go in a heartbeat, Bill Ward or no Bill Ward, teleprompter Ozzy, whatever. Same reason I'm going to see Deep Purple Mark VIII next week. Never had the chance before. Do now. Love the band's music. Bought my ticket.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 06:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

100 times out of 100 I'd sooner go and watch Bolt Thrower.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 08:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw Sabbath the last time they headlined Ozzfest - what was that, 2005? Were they the same band as the Paris footage from 1970 that you can see on YouTube? Hell, no. Were they even the same band as the California Jam footage? No. Were they still great in a magisterial, old-kings kind of way? Fuck yes. And yes, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward were still a crushing rhythm team. I don't know how much damage seven more years and lymphoma has done to them - I suspect at this point Ozzy might well be the healthiest one of 'em, which is a frankly bizarre concept. But he's become quite a good performer lately - his 2010 tour was astonishing. Still, no Ward, no interest from this corner. Not in the album, and certainly not in the tour. And frankly, even if he does wind up coming back, I don't think I'll listen then, because it'll feel like he got crowbar'ed into it.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't for the life of me imagine why anybody who cares about the music of Black Sabbath in any way would go see Black Sabbath in 2012 - it's like saying "I don't care about their music, I just want to say I was in the same building as the guys who once made good music"

Explain that to the band. Their appropriate response would likely be, "Go fuck yourself, mate."

Given that the band and Rubin intend to tap into the sound of their early albums, I'm excited. Chances are, it won't suck and it won't rival their best work, but I think it could be good.

Regarding Bill Ward, from his statement at http://www.billward.com/, he never says exactly what he was asking for in his contract. Maybe he was asking for more money than Geezer and Tony. We really don't know the details. Tony is willing to work while going through treatment for cancer. Kind of makes Bill's issue seem a bit petty.

I saw Dio & the guys as Heaven & Hell a couple years back because I loved their first couple albums. The fact that their new album was actually pretty decent was a bonus. I'm glad I got to see Dio before he passed. If I had turned my nose up at the opportunity, I'd feel like a real asshole right now.

I doubt Sabbath will be touring this year, with Tony's illness. Let's just hope he recovers and he can eventually play, and we can count ourselves lucky to see the man perform once again.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Given that the band and Rubin intend to tap into the sound of their early albums

lol and there was me expecting an earnest attempt at a 'Headless Cross' redux

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

XP: You may be right about Bill Ward but it seems highly fucking unlikely that he was asking for anything other than 25%. He did so in a very reasonable, un-shit-talking way. He's got every right to bail out on this, if they're going to start arguing some incontinent drunk who doesn't know the words to any of the songs deserves a bigger cut than him.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't for the life of me imagine why anybody who cares about the music of Black Sabbath in any way would go see Black Sabbath in 2012 - it's like saying "I don't care about their music, I just want to say I was in the same building as the guys who once made good music"

I have always had trouble with this line of thinking, because we aren't all able to see every artist performing at their peak until time machines come around and then, damn will those shows be packed. I'd rather see Black Sabbath 2012 than to not ever experience them live.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I guess I just differ there - I think plenty of rock acts can be good many years into their careers (I'd go see a John Cale solo set in a minute & the first time I saw him play solo was, like, twenty years ago, and he'd already been doing it for 10+ years) but I don't think of Sabbath as one of them. I'll ride for Gillan-era Sabs even but I can't imagine enjoying watching Ozzy in his present condition.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't imagine enjoying watching Ozzy in his present condition.

I'm telling you straight, as someone who saw him play a two-hours-plus concert in 2010, he is not in the condition you think he's in.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 9 February 2012 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Someone recently made that same comment of not wanting to check out older acts in regards to Van Halen, not wanting to see a drunken spandexed Roth rolling around the stage not singing the songs very well.. How and why do people get these twisted notions of what these older guys are doing?

SeanWayne, Thursday, 9 February 2012 02:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd see Van Halen tho I gather the weak link there is Eddie half the time. I'd also see Wire. There's a ton of older acts that seem worth seeing, I'm not making a sweeping condemnation, I'm saying Sabbath live seems like a sure miss to me

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 9 February 2012 03:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

for me basically "at least I can say I saw them" isn't ever going to be a priority for me with any act

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 9 February 2012 03:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw those 4 guys on the '98/'99 Reunion and they were fucking great--except for Ozzy. But I believe that he might be in better for now.

Also, Bill Ward probably didn't even want 20%. I bet he just wanted more than 6% or whatever they offered him. The problem of course is that the other 3 guys would rather keep the money and spend a lot less on a session drummer who is a lot healthier and more reliable.

It's sad as I'd prefer to see Ward. But if I was the other guys, I'd want a pro who is currently in working order.

Ultimately, I'll listen to whatever they produce and judge it then and there.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 9 February 2012 07:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ozzy was pretty much winded by the end of the half-hour set I saw him do it the Sunset Strip Music Festival a few years back. I'm pretty skeptical that he's in better shape these days.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 08:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Um… YES.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Liking the Priest-ish cover there...

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

\m/

love those guys

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

lawl was just limbering up to post that to noteworthy covers thread

only halfway through the actual album as I type but the intro to 'Endless Corpse' is a motherfucker

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nice! So release date in March sometime?

http://vimeo.com/13091222

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

What a great cover that is!

A. Begrand, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's like something out of a dario argento film!

cb, Friday, 10 February 2012 18:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!

SeanWayne, Friday, 10 February 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

sean come in the metal room in spotify! viceroy and i are in there. everyone come play some quality metal until we all go into outloud later.
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/VjWCayQ8GaB04GHI

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/02/10/oh-cmon-guys-the-new-in-flames-album-wasnt-that-bad/

As you may be aware, In Flames and Trivium are in the midst of a co-headlining tour. But last night’s show in Albuquerque, New Mexico (Meth capital of the world!!!) apparently ended prematurely… due to a bomb threat.

In Flames guitarist Niclas Engelin said on his Facebook page, “What the fuck is going on!! We just had to cancel our show due to bomb threat…we are over here to entertain!”, and posted the below photo:

We have no additional details right now, although given that there have been no reports of a venue in New Mexico exploding, it would seem that authorities either located the bomb in time, or the whole thing was a prank by some idiot fifteen year-old. I would wager it was the latter. That kid is a dick, and probably a Winds of Plague fan to boot.

We’ll let you know if we get any more info on what went down. In the meantime, the tour resumes tonight in Denver.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, went in there Kerr.. easily confused me..lol!

SeanWayne, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

are you still in there?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't know.. lol!

SeanWayne, Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Enjoying a bottle of Mikkeller Beer Geek Brunch Weasel and listening to the Christian Mistress - Agony And Opium for the first time in a year. Forgot how kickass it is. Can't wait to hear the new one!

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm still listening to the Abscess album from 2010

Christ almighty that's a crushing fuckin record

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 04:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, it is!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

"dead haze"

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Mercyful Fate and Death are always being played in the spotify/soundrop metal room and I've been really digging it. I need to hear more. Where's the best place to start?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man dude those are two of my favorite bands ever. the first two Mercyful Fate albums, Melissa and Don't Break the Oath, are absolute metal canon in my book. People's mileage varies with later stuff but to me In the Shadows is totally in the same class as those earlier two and Time is pretty fucking great; the first two songs on it are among my favorite MF songs ever, especially "Angel of Light," all-time jam right there.

According to me every Death album is worth getting but which ones you like best will vary according to what it is you like about them. Human was the first proper death metal album I ever heard so that was my entry; it's when they're starting to get really proggy/tech-y. Still love that and Symbolic best I think. But the earlier ones, Spiritual Healing, Leprosy, and Scream Bloody Gore, those are all good, too - there's more audible bridges between those & thrash imo, whereas when you get to Human, they're becoming a band who are sort of off in their own world, which is how Chuck's been described to me by people who were in the Tampa scene at the time - he just did his own thing, was sort of apart from the scene.

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

really good rundown on the Death discography at the band's website - explains the various lineups. Human is basically Chuck S. & the guys from Cynic, which at that time in metal history is to my ears a pretty perfect meeting of minds

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

quite proggy then?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, pretty breakneck prog though - the speed never lets up. the next one, individual thought patterns, features Andy LaRoque - guitarist from the King Diamond band! Do read that linked rundown, it's really a great concise history.

but do get those first two Mercyful Fate albums without delay, they're the business

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

(I should be clear, when I say prog I'm thinking of progressive death, which is kind of its own genre - it owes clear debts to 70s prog but doesn't really sound like it at all)

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i get what you mean. prog but not flashy for the hell of it stuff?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

but do get those first two Mercyful Fate albums without delay, they're the business

Absolutely, it simply doesn't get any better than those two albums. Don't Break the Oath has some of the most insane riffing you will ever hear.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

is the high pitched stuff constant or just now and again?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

King's voice is all over the place on those records, but yeah, you'd have to get used to the high-pitched stuff. He times those moments brilliantly.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, don't break the oath really is one of the best metal albums there is. and the riffs will prob hook you but you'll grow to love king diamond's vox, AG.

plus, it's on spotify. not much to lose here. listen to it!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 11 February 2012 23:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey also check out the Mercyful Fate EP (included on "The Beginning") too cause that's got some classic jams. When I didn't really care for King's voice that was the record that kind of eased me into their style.

the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 12 February 2012 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally got to see Yob last night. Well worth the wait of years for Nate to book a date on a weekend within 200 miles of me.

I think the biggest surprise to me was not how incredibly heavy they got on occasion, but how often they grooved like hell as they amped up from the glacial segments. The rhythm section doesn't exactly swing, but the have a fine lock groove that isn't as apparent on record. Mike was also in fine voice, effortlessly going from a growl to a screeching howl to a clean melodic tone.

If they weren't the best live band I've seen in recent years it's only because Ludicra were so damn good.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

the lock grooves are my favorite parts on the records!

j., Monday, 13 February 2012 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're so much more prevalent live. Almost vamping.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 February 2012 00:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Everybody needs some YOB in their life!

And absolutely the first two Mercyful Fates as well. Meeeeeliiiiissssaaaa!!!

Nate Carson, Monday, 13 February 2012 09:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

pfunkboy -

I wrote a long review of Death's Human a few months ago - here's a link.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just discovered Mercyful Fate this past weekend; I found Don't Break the Oath on vinyl and took a chance. HOLY SHIT. How did I live without this band?! The guitar work blows my face off. I've listened to the record about five times since I picked it up.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Coincidentally I listened to "Melissa" for the first time the other day too. It was good, I need to re-listen to it!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 09:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Did Ghost play I'm A Marionette by ABBA on their recent US tour?

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Holy shit. I saw Vektor for the first time last night. Hands down one of the best metal bands out there. They are gonna be (deservedly) huge.

Here's footage from the show, at a tiny bar on a Monday night. Packed.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's exciting! i really like 'outer isolation' and was wondering whether they could pull that sort of thing off live. (similiar sorta incredulity as to when i first heard absu) seems like they can. hope they come to the uk soon.

cb, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

no ABBA songs at the ghost show i went to - just the full album + the here comes the sun cover

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Maiden's touring again this summer. Skipping my part of the world, but I'm fully prepared to go elsewhere to see this one. I missed the '88 Canadian tour (with GNR opening) for the same reason, so it'd be nice to see them revisiting that chapter in the band's history.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm very excited about this tour. It'll be my sixth time seeing them, but I'm very much looking forward to hearing this particular set of songs. I like Seventh Son a fair amount.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

the next one, individual thought patterns, features Andy LaRoque - guitarist from the King Diamond band!

That, and it is one of the all time best metal records ever made.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks jjjusten.

I'm watching Mayhem for the first time in Oslo on Saturday night.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 16 February 2012 07:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alice Cooper and Kvelertak are holding the flag for metal at Bonnaroo this year. (Honorary mention to Bad Brains and Battles) And that's about it.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Isn't Danzig playing too?

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Japanese sludge! I know you guys are into that: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-greenmachines-d-a-m-n/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

My first Rhapsody metal roundup of 2012. (Caveats: [1] I only really "recommend" the top three; [2] two albums technically came out in 2011; [3] six reviews were written by other people.)

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/02/metal

Otherwise, have been totally immersing myself in Small Stone Records stuff from the past few years. Surprised by how much I'm liking a lot of it.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, fwiw, I like the Devil's Blood album as much as any of those, but Rhapsody doesn't seem to be carrying it (at least not yet), and I like Christian Mistress even more than Devil's Blood but it's not out yet. Iron Fire and Steel Wing, both of which I actually reviewed, would have been in the Top 5 of that roundup if I was allowed to include them, but they're for-sale-only (no streaming), which makes them off-limits for Roundups/Staff Picks/etc. And Orange Goblin would've been in the top 5, too, but it came out too late; will save that for next time.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm at by:larm in Oslo. As well as a very enjoyable death metal group called Execration, I just saw an awesome grindcore band called Beaten To Death - so good live.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had the greatest time at by:larm. Be sure to visit Neseblod Records! I miss Oslo dearly.

A. Begrand, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've already been this year! Picked up Execration on vinyl... I was going to get a Dark Throne hoodie but everything only goes up to L; skinny, good looking Norwegian bastards. (I love going to Norway and I'm getting to round the trip off with Nekromantheon, Arabrot and Mayhem tomorrow - good times.)

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am listening to the new Emmure album. It's good. Better than their last one, maybe, and I put that one on my Pazz & Jop ballot for 2011.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Great line up coming up tonight in Oslo: Beaten To Death, Arabrot, Necromantheon, Mayhem and then Lindstrom.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

fav metal album from last year finally getting a vinyl release

http://babel-label.bandcamp.com/album/i-vi

Crackle Box, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been going in the metal room with frobisher viceroy and sean wayne during the day (when noones in outloud) and its kinda funny seeing what the almost real world listens to. Kids especially think metal should be fast otherwise its 'not metal'. Not 'not my think' or 'crap' but 'not metal. But the same kids listen to bullet for my valentine ,Avenged sevenfold , emmure or trivium, one of whom said while Mercyful Fate was on 'this isn't metal'. And smithy,it was the few people into Isis and Boris who were the ones who sprung to the kings defence!

Main stuff played in there is Slayer/slipknot/maiden/ozzy/sabbath/pantera/lamb of god/opeth/meshuggah/Death/Carcass/machine head/sepultura and Megadeth. plus the underground stuff but the main acts i mentioned get played and the same tracks get voted up as soon as theyve finished. Mainstream metal songs seem to be a small gene pool in there.
As i said metalcore gets played but is frowned upon. But there really is a big gap between the 16 year olds into metalcore/deathcore and the actual metalheads (there's no hipster metallers in there apart from us 3 ilxors!! haha).

Anyway irl do you guys come across kids into just the same stuff as i mentioned or do any listen to black/death/doom/grind/thrash? or even what you term as hipster metal?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not 'not my thing'

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

when i say mainstream metal gene pool is small i mean the choices of bands/songs not the actual metallers, they are the largest amount obviously

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

The thing that most surprises me is that mainstream metallers, who are not kids, but guys in their 20s , don't listen to either a) a varied amount of genres and b) a lot of bands instead they listen to the same dozen or so that everyone else does. I thought with the internet and choice they would be devouring more music but it doesn't seem to be the case. And many of them say they only listen to metal - modern mainstream and classic (ie slayer,metallica,megadeth and 90s - yes 90s is classic era now). So it's not like they are listening to other music so have less time for other metal bands.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyway if this should be a thread of it's own rather than here i shall start it

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

if i could think of a good title

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

What happened to Cannibal Corpse cover art? I continue to be really disappointed with it since Kill.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

The song titles aren't as creative, either – there are a few good ones like "Intestinal Crank" and "Followed Home Then Killed," but nothing nearly as gut churning as the classic stuff.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was listening to the Christian Mistress album this weekend and discussing it with my wife (who is not particularly into metal, though she'll put up with certain bands), and the more I listen to it the more it seems symptomatic of lowered standards on metal bloggers' part. The obvious hook with CM is their "classicism," i.e. they sound like a band from the late '70s or early '80s, but here's the thing: they don't sound like a good band from the late '70s or early '80s. They sound like a third-tier act of that era, destined to permanent opening-act status and wholly unlikely to get signed and get the polishing-up that Judas Priest or Iron Maiden underwent. And yet in 2012, they not only got signed, they're getting the big push...this also-ran band is what everyone's panting over at the moment. Shouldn't we demand better? Isn't it about more than having the right amps and pedals? Shouldn't we want bands to be able to write a decent song, or put across a vocal with real power? The CM singer just isn't that good - her voice is basically a flat bark with a tiny dash of bluesy grit. Fine, you don't like tech-death or deathcore or djent or whatever other ultra-cyborgy thing seems dominant at the moment. But overpraising every retro thing that comes along doesn't help. And yes, I admit I liked them for a little while. But their album was just one of dozens, across multiple genres (metal, jazz, electronic stuff) I checked out in the course of a given week, and diminishing returns set in hard after the third or fourth listen.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I respectfully disagree with your thesis. At least to my ears, I've discovered more pockets of awesomeness in the record the more I listened to it.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

yet in 2012, they not only got signed, they're getting the big push

well they got signed to an indie metal label, one which afaic has about the same relationship with the mainstream as the labels which put out the quote-unquote third-tier acts 30 years ago

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

..some of which were more interesting (or at least seem more interesting, in retrospect) than first-tier acts of 30 years ago. Or maybe the idea that they were third-tier acts means they were dead ends that didn't have to be dead ends, and are worth exploring to see paths that weren't quite taken the first time around. I also can't think of many new metal singers lately I've liked more than Christine Davis. I wish she put more words over, to be honest, but I kind of love the grain of her voice. I didn't think the songs on the first album actually clicked as songs -- it seemed too much like a demo to me, way too underproduced -- but on the new one a few definitely do, more than on most metal albums I hear. (My favorite is the title track, probably, then maybe "There Is Nowhere," "Black To Gold," and "Pentagon And Crucifix.") Not a great record, probably, but a really good one.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think it does matter whether something is happening now or whether it happened back when.

sometimes there does seem to be something off about christine davis' singing, and yet it's very compelling to listen to.

j., Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Christine's voice, it's unique. Plus the band really steps up with some very good songs on the new album. They're far from also-rans.

If you want power, Phil, just wait until you hear the new Accept. It blows the last album away, it's focused, it's aggressive, it's in keeping with the classic Accept aesthetic. At least I think so. You'll probably say, "meh."

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

to expand on what Kerr was asking.. I've noticed, at least here in the bay area, the younger kids, if they do not play in bands, or play instruments at all, usually don't know "whats up".. one of tghe kids I give drum lessons to has a great tech death metal band called Logestic Slaughter.. he's 19, and everytime I've mentioned an old band as a reference, he's either heard of em, digs em and has there stuff.. and a wide range of stuff too, its great! and he says him and his friends always check out old stuff to know thier roots!! so I have faith in the younger gen, if they get exposed to the goods..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

so I have faith in the younger gen, if they get exposed to the goods..

ilm journos its up to you!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the kids are just into what their friends are into, and often don't venture out into other stuff.. I went saw Animals as Leaders awhiler back cuz Intronaut was playing.. but a shit ton of youngsters were there to see AAL, and they knew the songs and were going pretty ape shit.. But I was like, had they never heard of Yngwie? Od Vai, or any other super shredder that makes that guy look silly.. lol

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

well, we need to make sure kids are playing, and not just their playstations..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyway irl do you guys come across kids into just the same stuff as i mentioned or do any listen to black/death/doom/grind/thrash? or even what you term as hipster metal?

my contact w/IRL ppl is extremely limited & pretty much all the metal enthusiasts I know work for Decibel or post here

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

^^^^

I wish I knew more irl people into metal.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

hello

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i had a student who liked lamb of god (and another one this semester listed it as her (!) favorite i think). he thought most of the things i liked were waaaaay too slow.

j., Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

haha thats why I said "more" , not like I don't know any

Right now I just wish I had more time to go see shows.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i know ;)

metal kid in my class was into lots of different genres of metal, but i think he was kind of an anomaly. he did seem to be amused by my agalloch tshirt when i pooched it above my sweater. (i can only wear it under sweaters because like most tshirts it's TOO BIG)

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of astonished how little a lot of the people at my job know about the larger metal scene. There's one dude who's really into grind, but a lot of my fellow metal record label employees spend their days listening to old Hellcat punk, or 90s hip-hop, or jazz, or ultra-mainstream rock and pop. (I have heard the current Jason Mraz single roaring at arena volume from one particular guy's office something like 5-6 times a day for a couple of weeks now.)

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

people been saying that about ro@drunner for years!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

To be fair, Mraz guy isn't actually an RR employee - he works for Atlantic and just shares our office space. But seriously, the only people who are deep into metal, I think, are the A&R staff.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would have thought it would be a prerequisite

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey, there are hospital employees who don't give a rat's ass about health.

j., Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

And teachers that don't give a shit about educating students.

(Obviously not anyone around these parts, just sayin'.)

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

and the question is why?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, the argument could be made that RR hasn't been a purely metal label since the 1990s - that the roster's been diverse pretty much all along, and maybe now it's more diverse than it's ever been, and some of the non-metal acts are doing the biggest business (like Nickelback, obviously, but also Young the Giant). So, you know, you can work here - as one of the two primary publicists does - and never have anything to do with the metal side of things.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's true.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

you just do the metal side then?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, I run the website for the entire label. I interview and write about all our bands.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hard to say as it still has the advantage of being new and exciting to me, but after six listens to the Christian Mistress, I'd take it over Judas Priest's British Steel, and any Saxon or Accept albums.

I see that Christian Mistress isn't even listed in Metacritic's Upcoming Release Calendar. None of the major metal releases are.

I posted this on my FB to sort of rally metalheads to give 'em a poke:

Of releases by Orange Goblin, Goatwhore, Pilgrim, Pallbearer, Drudkh, Christian Mistress, Corrosion Of Conformity, Napalm Death, Sigh, Black Breath and Ancestors, guess how many are covered by Metacritic or at least included in the upcoming releases list? None. They really need a better representation of metal reviews other than Revolver and Kerrang! Write 'em and encourage them to step up their abysmal metal coverage by including major magazines Decibel, Terrorizer and Rock-A-Rolla. Even if you don't care about using Metacritic, it would give the bands better exposure.
http://metacritic.custhelp.com/app/ask/session/L2F2LzIvdGltZS8xMzI5ODYwNjE1L3NpZC9ZUjYxaGhSaw==/sno/0

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to think it's better than Wheels of Steel, Strong Arm of the Law or Demin and Leather but excuse me if I don't believe you.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Depends on what your preferences are, but I think it's safe to say Christine Davis at least has better range than Biff Byford.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey, there are hospital employees who don't give a rat's ass about health.

I literally laughed out loud..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

must be republicans

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

For me, Christian Mistress's power is on stage. I like both records, but don't think they've really hit their stride in the studio yet. Live, they are a force to be reckoned with.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't impressed by Christian Mistress before, but I liked the new album pretty well on first listen.

I know very few other metal fans IRL. But at my new job one of the interns complimented me on my Agalloch hoody, so that's something. And while I'm the only person who ever puts non-classic metal on the communal Sonos system, nobody makes me turn it off, either.

I'm on a pretty serious gothic-metal kick at the moment: Nightwish, Xandria, Lunar Path, Liv Moon, Ideas, Amaranthe. And, um, 80s Franco Battiato records.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 23 February 2012 02:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha a 15 year old boy in just now. Says bullet for my valentine are proper metal because "by definition metal is a change in the rythm in the 8th 16th or 32th notes and bullet does that!" and can at least scream better than the tracks playing (deicide/emperor/burzum/death)

sean is trying to get him to introduce him to other stuff

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

sean is the teacher of metal. Dr Hellbeard.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

by definition

Mordy, Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

btw he came in and added 40 odd bfmv songs hence the reaction he got.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

but yeah hes a kid. but sean is trying. no point in putting mercyful fate or judas priest on, he hates high pitched screams. He prefers five finger death punch and avenged sevenfold.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

if anyones around, what recent stuff would you guys recommend to him? Obv doom and BM type stuff are out.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

he seems to like this Coalesce track. Maybe recommend DEP?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

of course, Converge!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

he says hes heard some DEP and hes heard of Slayer. Anything else kinda popular and importantly recent?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh he's heard of Leviathan and likes a few songs. wasn't expecting that. Phil/Smithy/Adrien you guys around?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am so fucking confused by what just happened.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh nevermind.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://open.soundrop.fm/s/VjWCayQ8GaB04GHI if you really want to know. its the metal room on spotify. come add some stuff

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh I thought you were like liveblogging some kid irl coming into a record store.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

we were talking about it upthread and about how the metal we listen to here is very different to kids in the real world.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you have spotify come in (the kids gone btw)

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Someone played this in the room. I feel like i lost 99% of my IQ level after hearing it.

Can any of you watch the whole of that?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 02:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

No thanks, I used to actually own their first terrible album.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 02:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm having an exciting evening in which I'm finally realizing just how crushingly brilliant Celtic Frost's Into the Pandemonium is.

Clarke B., Friday, 24 February 2012 02:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Working on a review of the new Terrorizer for BurningAmbulance.com. How much you like it will depend entirely on how much you like Resistant Culture, as they're half the band now (vocalist Anthony Rezhawk and guitarist Katina Culture). On the other hand, the rhythm section is Morbid Angel—David Vincent on bass and drummer Pete Sandoval on drums. I think it's a pretty great record, even if it's got basically nothing to do with the group that recorded World Downfall, sonically or lyrically.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 24 February 2012 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like to imagine the Huntress singer went swimming straight after the camera went click

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Friday, 24 February 2012 08:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok im beginning to like some of the classic old skool DM, stuff i never liked at the time but somehow sounds great now (just like what happened to me 7 or 8 years ago with some BM). The stuff that just doesnt just go wwwwwwaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhhhh anyway. The vox aren't as bad as i remembered. Even obituary - slowly we rot vox are fine. Oh well its great, lotsa good stuff to check out !

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 09:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

i always liked entombed as you guys know, so finding vox like that seems to be the key. Also, its not too extreme y'know?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 09:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

not to keen on deicide or most gothenburg stuff btw. I do like Death,Obituary, Atheist,Cynic stuff like that. Infact think i'll start a thread asking for some recommendations

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 09:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

You need to check out some early Autopsy dude. Severed Survival/Mental Funeral especially. I really liked the weird pre-blastbeats period where death metal had some doom elements added in.

also xp: Figured she was going to Comic Con as Vampirella.

Will the waveform be unbroken? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 February 2012 09:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh yeah i like the autopsy i heard.

please post your recs here
Recommend 100 Old Skool DM or Tech-DM for ilxors wanting to discover the classics

the doom elements are obviously welcome!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 10:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone else been listening to this remastered Diamond Head album? It's amazing!
http://open.spotify.com/album/5Zf6AmEtLYps5wwkhtjGV7

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 24 February 2012 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

sadly, not available in the States.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah sorry. My first listen to this record, it's really excellent.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 24 February 2012 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

interestingly reminding me of Zeppelin, vocally at least.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 24 February 2012 13:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

The record is great and would love to hear a decent remaster. Glad you're enjoying!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

have to admit the Onion AV Club's rather good article on NWOBHM prompted me to look for it:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/new-wave-of-british-heavy-metal,69758/

Next up: Angel Witch!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to discover those bands anew! Enjoy Angel Witch too.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fuck, I'm really into this new Spawn of Possession album. As much as I've loved the Obscura stuff of late, I think this one totally raises the tech-death bar.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink


World renowned hard rock band High On Fire will release its new studio album De Vermis Mysteriis on April 3 via eOne Music. Recorded in Salem, Massachusetts' GodCity studios with producer and Converge guitarist Kurt Ballou, the 10 song effort -- touted as "direct, eye-opening and powerfully supernatural" -- is the band's sixth studio recording and the follow up to 2010's Snakes for the Divine which debuted at #62 on the Billboard Top 200 and has been called "wonderful" by The New York Times and "an exhilarating rush" by The Chicago Tribune.

De Vermis Mysteriis (or "Mysteries of the Worm") takes its title from a fictional grimoire created by Psycho author Robert Bloch and incorporated by H. P. Lovecraft into the lore of the Cthulhu Mythos (Lovecraft mentioned De Vermis Mysteriis as one of the books that "repeat the most hellish secrets learnt by early man"). The album carries a deeply mystical undercurrent, incorporating fantastical themes and lyrics detailing, among other things, time travel, a serum called liao that is made out of a black lotus and "a Jesus twin who can see the past through his ancestors' eyes." And that's just scratching the surface!

Musically, De Vermis Mysteriis is absolutely explosive, showcasing the California power trio's thundering roar and expanded harmonic and rhythmic palettes while the songs move confidently through multiple riffs and movements. High On Fire construct tough, burly stoner metal that is at once devastatingly epic and mercilessly metallic as superstar guitarist Matt Pike's sizzling ax and avenging-angel riffs fuse with Des Kensel's double-kick-drum onslaught and Jeff Matz's concrete crushing, Burton-esque bass guitar. Over the course of forty-five minutes, High On Fire have created an amalgamation of fantastical lyrical ideas and brute force musicianship anchored in an endlessly captivating, punkishly frantic sound. Simply put, the band generates awesome on demand and has a virtual chokehold on monolithic-sounding, masterfully crafted epic music. High On Fire is a savage bull in the china shop of modern metal.

When asked for comment on De Vermis Mysteriis, Pike somewhat cryptically replied, "Prepare for your dark journey."

The track listing for High On Fire's De Vermis Mysteriis is as follows:

01. Serums of Liao
02. Bloody Knuckles
03. Fertile Green
04. Madness of an Architect
05. Interlude
06. Spiritual Rites
07. King of Days
08. De Vermis Mysteriis
09. Romulus and Remus
10. Warhorn

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 24 February 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

aw yeah

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's some talk about in the High On Fire thread.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

that's pretty hideous but these guys always bring it, so whatever

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 24 February 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought the last one was basically unlistenable from a recording standpoint so hopefully ballou does right by them.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

03. Fertile Green

man i hate it when metal tracks start with acoustic intros and shit

j., Friday, 24 February 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

so hopefully that one is about weed

j., Friday, 24 February 2012 20:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought the last one was basically unlistenable from a recording standpoint so hopefully ballou does right by them.

― call all destroyer

I agree whole-heartedly. Though after seeing them live I don't know if I give a rat's ace anymore.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

not good live?

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i saw 'em in '05 and they shredded but that was a while ago now

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

They were crushingly good live; tight and powerful and mixed wonderfully (unlike the last record).

My problem was that Matt was calling out to the meatheads to get more violent and get a real pit going in a relatively small crowd. Egging on the worst part of the crowd when most everyone was into it and head-banging and listening and singing along rubbed me the wrong way. He got his wish, and the lunkheads who had skipped the two opening bands gamely started charging into people and swinging their arms like truncheons.

At which point I ducked to the back, waited for the break between songs when things might calm down a bit, but Matt said, "that's more like it!" or something to that effect and I left shaking my head.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

ugh

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

It appears we talked about it on Rolling Metal 2010.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

hahaha -- i was going to say "ugh dnw" but apparently i said that a year and a half ago

i'm relatively little and i got bumped around at the eyehategod show i went to earlier this year. it sucked.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Friday, October 22, 2010 1:33 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

It was a good discussion overall. I thought about it the other day because Adrien tweeted this link:

Death To Mosh Pits!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never seen this karate moshing thing IRL, I don't think we have it here. I just think of that jpg with the gurning woman that was always on the Noize Borad.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

moshing here = pogoing tho ocassionally you do get small pits

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Guys this Spawn of Possession is really good.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 25 February 2012 01:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

the new christian mistress makes me feel like beavis and/or butthead every time a riff locks in for more than, like, one bar

j., Saturday, 25 February 2012 05:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

endorse

abyssal-home.bandcamp.com

Brakhage, Sunday, 26 February 2012 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's yet another remaster of Lightning To The Nations? You'd think there'd be remasters for the first two Def Lep albums by now.

Speaking of NWOBHM, or NRWOTHM, these two new releases share those roots.

RAM - Death (Metal Blade)
Pharaoh - Bury The Light (Cruz Del Sur)

I believe both are on their third albums. Swedish band RAM's Lightbringer (2008) and Philadelphia-based Pharaoh's Be Gone (2008) are also good. Still loving Christian Mistress' album the best by far though!

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 27 February 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/02/announcing_the_1.html

Killing SXSW line up.. I wish Iwas going just for this shwocase...

SeanWayne, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

NRWOTHM

Huh??

xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

"New retro wave of traditional heavy metal"? Never heard of that before.

I like the Ram album a lot, but I've been enjoying the new Pharaoh even more.

A. Begrand, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally got to hear the new Christian Mistress in it's entirety and it's... solid? Not a disappointment exactly, as there are a couple of songs that really blew me away ("Black TO Gold" and "Haunted Hunted"), but it doesn't hold a candle to their live show. It's a bit too restrained or something. I'm with Nate in that they absolutely killed me live, but for some reason this record doesn't. I'm sure I'll listen to it a bunch through the year but maybe my expectations were too high.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

i found that it got a bit more involving the louder i played it (duh, big surprise). the low end filled out more too. the interplay is more exciting than it sounds like at first when all you can hear is davis and the leads wheedely-wheedelying.

j., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 00:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got my package from Profound Lore today with the Pallbearer and the Witch Mountain reish, ready to dig in!

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Heard the new Meshuggah this morning. Really impressed on first listen. Denser than obZen and not as Tool-damaged, and/but it's not Chaosphere 2 or anything like that. In fact, it might be their most human album to date - there are drum tracks on a few songs that actually sound like drums, in a room, being hit with actual sticks by a living drummer. I made it all the way through on the first try, and definitely want to hear it again soon - that's a first for me with Meshuggah. I've always kind of admired them from a distance and only rarely felt the need to actually push through a whole record. (That said, they were ferocious live when I saw them around the time of Catch 33.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spotify using metallers! Come and join me and Herman for metal tuneage and aimless banter!
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/VjWCayQ8GaB04GHI

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh man, really getting excited for the new meshuggah.... (xpost)

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got this last year from a publicist I assume but didn't get to it til now. Trad 80s metal which I am fucking loving, I'm going to take some glucosamine for my knees and then get the fuck down to this

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've long liked Widow, and the new one's a blast, I reviewed it for Terrorizer a couple months ago.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not a bad time for doom, really enjoying both the Pallbearer and Pilgrim debuts.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

has j3ff said what he thinks yet about

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kind of like the Freedom Call album.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile the new High on Fire track sounds great:

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/13243-fertile-green/

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's a huge step up from Snakes. Nice mix.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

that sounds really good!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Windhand just released their album on purple vinyl. So I guess it wasn't officially released last year? I just ordered the CD. They're touring the East Coast and South Feb. 29 to Mar. 10.

http://windhandva.bandcamp.com/

Regarding Huntress, looks like they're opening for the PaganFest tour with Turisas, Alestorm and Arkona. I'll find out which leaves a stronger impression, Jill Janus' Julliard-trained opera pipes or her silicone-enhanced outfits.

Pharaoh is pulling ahead of RAM to my ears. It probably helps that I'm also impressed with After The Fire (2003) and The Longest Night (2006).

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Huntress album is unbearable.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i bet it gets lots of attention

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 1 March 2012 08:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

just popping in to say the new COC totally rules

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 1 March 2012 09:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huntress was tack(i)ed onto a bill I promoted last year. Supposedly she's a former porn star?

Well, it was a spectacle. They were actually pretty solid live. Can't imagine listening to it at home, though.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 March 2012 10:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

In other news, Witch Mountain starts tracking a new album this Friday with Billy Anderson producing at Audible Alchemy studio run by Steve Lobdell. Out in June. Stoked.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 March 2012 10:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Steven Wray Lobdell?

Big Drug Dan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 1 March 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

*stirs from his slumber*I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED… For Freedom Call? Haven't listened to the new one, but I've never been particularly impressed with them in the past.

Meant to listen to a bunch of the metal back log when I was on vacation, but I ended up mostly listening to bandcamp stuff. Not as impressed with Spawn of Possession as Jon, but really digging the Black Breath. Also, why did nobody tell me that Asphyx were so damn good?! Well, besides Siegbran, I suppose.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone else listen to the new terrorizer? of course, this is nothing like world downfall (and nowhere near that level) and I wish the drums didn't sound so damn stiff. but what the hell, this still satisfies. some fun guitar work on here.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I did! I actually really enjoyed it, having not listened to their previous work. Made good background music for putting together the Matt Putrid feature I did for the zombie issue of Decibel.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the new Terrorizer is pretty cool. Even though, as Phil said, they're pretty much Resistant Culture With a Couple Other Guys now.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

yep, this is really nothing like classic terrorizer at all. guess I have to listen to some resistant culture now.

and you have to listen to world downfall, j3ff! so awesome.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is it free on bandcamp?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's on spotify.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that Steven Wray Lobdell?

Yes, he played in Faust for a while. Between Lob and Billy Anderson, we'll be in great hands!

Nate Carson, Thursday, 1 March 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a great combination there! I love Lobdell from Davis Redford Triad and stuff. Pretty awesome.

Big Drug Dan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

thatnks Kerr.. you're sweet! lol

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 10:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

from the p4k review: "But most of these bands don't have Christine Davis, a frontwoman who trades the tight t-shirt machismo of Christian Mistress' more obvious peers for an understated, alluring command." (italics in the original)

while i really like her voice, and i do think it's notable that this kind of band is being fronted by female vox, the dichotomy the writer is setting up (tight t-shirt machismo V. understated, alluring command) is sorta bogus, not least bc i don't find her vocals particularly understated or alluring. maybe i wouldn't disagree that she has a "warm rasp," but he also writes that she "practically coos" (!) which iirc is how we describe parents speaking in baby-jibberish to their babies. like, obv i think it's important (and important to my enjoyment of the band) that Davis has a female voice, and not just a cookie monster voice or another generic metal voice, but holy shit sexism.

Mordy, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to Freedom Call right now. Definitely fun, they have a rousing sense of melody, but it is super generic Euro power metal.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

A friend got us tickets to see Iron Maiden. Outside, in Dallas, in August. Should be stupidly hot, but it's Maiden!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

UP THE IRONS!

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't seen them since the original Somewhere In Time tour, so this is fitting.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, "Crimson Dawn" on this Freedom Call album has won me over. I love me some cheesy vocal harmonies.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought this was Somewhere revisited not Seventh Son. My Bad.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Bummed we get Coheed and Cambria instead of Alice Cooper, but them's the breaks.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

ha, i knew you'd like it jeff.

Mordy, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

i used to love coheed and cambria. first two albums are still classic imho

Mordy, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm heading to Calgary for Maiden in July. This'll be fun, the spring '88 tour with GNR skipped my city, so it'll be nice to see that setlist revisited a little bit.

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 March 2012 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink


NEW BLACK BREATH TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to a stream of the new Torche right now. Don't know if it's appropriate for the rolling metal thread, maybe the rolling Foo Fighters thread? They've definitely moved fully into alternative rock at this point, although it's still heavier/noisier than the average radio fare. Nothing jumping out at me so far like the best songs on Meanderthal did. That might require listening to more than four tracks, though.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I actually like the new Torche more than Meanderthal.

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

I dig the winding riff on "Snakes Are Charmed" – and hey, "Sky Trials" paints a pretty nifty vapor trail. This does feel like a record I'm going to have to listen to a few times.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am glad they found a second guitarist. They did not work nearly as well as a power trio. Did they have the second guitarist on Songs for Singles? I never heard that one.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

They didn't! Yeah, big improvement. I'll stop babbling now.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, opinion revised: this is freaking great. Should probably stop posting thoughts on things before I've listened through the whole thing.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I needed a few listens too!

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

where is this torche stream goin down?

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

hellbeard are on spotify
http://open.spotify.com/artist/0o4q44oE19NvxNacve7u7C

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, March 2, 2012 5:42 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

btw this is good! very well-recorded especially and i like slow sludgy stuff so it's all good here.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

it made it into our 2010 eoy poll. Thats how sean turned up here as i messaged the band on myspace when i found out they were unsigned, i wanted to know if there was cds to buy

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 2 March 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys are awesome... thank you!!

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Torche stream is for reviewers only at the moment. You can download the first single for free from their website: http://www.torchemusic.com/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah, suspected as much. thx.

call all destroyer, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, Lazarus Pit this week isn't entirely out of the blue, what with all the recent NWOBHM chat: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-savages-loose-%E2%80%98n-lethal/

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink


fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 2 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys have always been good to the 'Beard!! Thank you

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Kerr, thats the same song.. the top one is the better version.

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

a newer song called River's End

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

that Kimo's clip was the last show we did.. We've been on a break due to a surgery, we'r getting back to it now..Hope to be recordeing an EP very soon.

SeanWayne, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Savage album really is a lost gem. Happy to see it hit the Pit!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, this final Woods of Ypres album is fantastic. It's really wrong that good metal can't make you impervious to car accidents.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Woods of Ypres is my favorite metal album of the year thus far.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Savage album is a wickedly great choice, Jeff. Nicely done.

I'm actually really surprised at the reception the Woods of Ypres album has been getting. A lot of people adore their early, rawer, BM-derived stuff. so I was wondering if the slick new record would turn some off. Nice to see that hasn't happened much.

A. Begrand, Friday, 2 March 2012 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, between new St. Vitus, Bereft, and Pallbearer, first quarter 2012 is a pretty damn good time for doom fans.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Like, obviously I love Wino's solo projects, but recently it's felt like he's been retreading the same territory. So him hooking up with the old gang feels really refreshing.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 2 March 2012 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

new st. vitus!!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 2 March 2012 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

And for those of you with a fondness for gothic metal, Johnny Icon from the great Icon and the Black Roses (who only had one record, back in 2004, but have reformed and are working on a second!) is now also the singer for the otherwise Italian band Ace of Hearts. Who aren't technically a HIM cover band, but close enough.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's really nice - i like it - but i don't hear HIM or gothic metal in it at all?

Mordy, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

No?! Weird, his delivery seems so similar to Ville's to my ears.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm confused. are there two bands Ace of Hearts who have brand new albums out?

Mordy, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol, apparently so

Mordy, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was listening to:

Mordy, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hah. Never heard of the horse one. Although a little Googling suggests that that's _Ace of Hearts_ by Green Pitch, which came out in 2005...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

tbh, i spotify'd ace of hearts and that came up and was identified as 2012 so i just assumed without any further research or even examination...

Mordy, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

But yes, _Monster_ is the one I meant.

The new Lullacry is pretty cool, too.

Man, I went on vacation for a week and I can't believe how far behind I got in my listening to new stuff.

Don't get me started on Spotify metadata.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 3 March 2012 02:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, this new Lyriel album Leverage is really good, too. Seriously, this is the year of gothicfolkpower metal.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 3 March 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

it died on me. Sorry chaps

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

frick, wrong thread.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 3 March 2012 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

liked that pallbearer demo from a couple years back, so I'm excited to hear the debut.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 3 March 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's your complaint with the Huntress record, Adrien? I could see how you might find her voice irritating, but I don't know, I think it's a fun combination of traditional metal and blackened thrash.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Saturday, 3 March 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Idea for poll thread that nobody will vote in: Better Accept album in 2012 – the actual Accept album, or the new 3 Inches of Blood?

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Saturday, 3 March 2012 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

The band is competent, but yikes the singing is shrill. Annoyingly so.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 3 March 2012 18:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to the whole Huntress record yet, but so far I like her voice better than Davis's - she's much more technically accomplished and, to my ear, better suited to retro-metal material.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 3 March 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Couldn't disagree with you more there, Phil. I love what Davis does vocally, it's so unorthodox. Huntress singer does go for bombast like the style of music typically demands, and the effort is there, but vocally she's a total hack. The melodies are terrible and the frequency of her awful shriek is seizure-inducing.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 3 March 2012 20:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like both bands! It's okay to like both bands! The Huntress singer sounds like Doro after a nervous breakdown, which I like! Also, while they have elements of traditional metal, they definitely aren't retro metal. Too many modern elements in the mix.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Saturday, 3 March 2012 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, after listening to seven of the album's ten tracks, I'm definitely pro-Huntress. The music is a) more modern, and b) just played better and produced more crisply. As I said when we discussed the possibility of signing them, they're 3 Inches of Blood with tits, but her vocals are very impressive to me. She combines a gruffness that reminds me of Sabine Classen from Holy Ghost with genuinely powerful high notes, and I don't hear her shrieks as that frequent or shrill. They're just one tool in her kit.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 3 March 2012 22:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

This might be the best $10 show I've come across in recent memory:

Nachtmystium
Alcest
The Atlas Moth
Hull
Mutilation Rites
Bruce Lamont

I think all these bands will be in Texas for SXSW so they've scheduled a shindig in Dallas. Was happy to see Alcest & Hull (the original bill), but I'm not turning down the rest.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 March 2012 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

whoa! chicago explosion.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 5 March 2012 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is an astonishing amount of awesomeness for ten bucks.

A. Begrand, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Slight hitch: The booker doesn't know why the ticket agent doesn't have tickets for sale, and the ticket agent told me they have no idea this show exists. Slight hitch.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 March 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

You're going to get there and it's going to be Better Than Ezra playing.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 5 March 2012 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hitch resolved. Booker was really nice, ticket agent oblivious. Tickets paid for.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 March 2012 19:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow, Killing Joke is empty tonight. 100 people, maybe? At the absolute most?

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Monday, 5 March 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shame on those folks for taking the mighty Killing Joke for granted!

(seeing them FINALLY for the first time ever in a month, and am super-excited)

A. Begrand, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Where are you catching Killing Joke? Oh wait - you're going to Roadburn.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 5 March 2012 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe they were right. That's probably the weakest Killing Joke show I've ever been to, and I've been doing it for over 25 years (including the Outside The Gate years). More to follow, but a massive let-down.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Monday, 5 March 2012 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

hey all, profound lore sez -

CASTEVET Update
KRALLICE bassist/vocalist Nicholas McMaster has joined CASTEVET as their new bass player. The band also have a string of upcoming live dates which will mark the band's first appearance in Canada and an appearance at this year's Maryland Deathfest. Dates are as follows:

3/23 - w/ Aesahaettr, Ensorcelor + more @ Death Church (Montreal, QC Canada)
3/24 - w/ Aesahaettr, Ensorcelor, Sound Asleep & The Sustained Low ‘C’ of Richard Strauss “Also Sprach Zarathustra” @ Soybomb (Toronto, ON Canada)
3/25 - w/ Phantom Glue + more @ Radio (Boston, MA)
4/27 - w/ Inquisition & Villains @ Saint Vitus (Brooklyn, NY)
5/24 - Maryland Deathfest X @ Club Sonar (Baltimore, MD)

The band are also in the process of writing and rehearsing new material.

anyone know if mcmaster remains krallice's bass player as well?

(and what happened to castevet's old bass player? i like his playing a lot more than mcmaster's on 'diotima', though it may just be the nature of the songs that gives them different things to do.)

j., Tuesday, 6 March 2012 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I believe he's still in Krallice. He's become quite an important member of that band.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf

Trivium @TriviumOfficial is now following you (@Algerian_Goalie).

its only a dummy acc to get into outloud, i dont do twitter, but how the hell have i been added. does it mean so that i get crap tweets from them?

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

No, it just means they would see your tweets. You'd have to follow them back to see theirs.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

so they just add everyone they can in hope they follow them back?

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

i really dont understand twitter tbh

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

so they just add everyone they can in hope they follow them back?

― fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:25 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

This morning's pleasing surprise: German pagan/black metal band Ahnengrab's new album Omen. "Pagan" = "some violins every once in a while", "black" = "raspy vocals", and in this case I guess the "/" means "with a propulsive energy closer to thrash, and guitar exuberance that might almost sound like power-metal if it were produced differently". Like maybe if Agrypnie had grown up with more Iron Maiden records, or maybe just less self-consciousness about that.

Yesterday's pleaasing surprise: Minneapolis goth/prog/synth band Echoterra's unpromisingly titled 2011 album Land of the Midnight Sun, their second but first since taking on Visions of Atlantic singer Melissa Ferlaak. The band is definitely on the Nightwish/Epica axis, but where the form usually tends to bombastic production, this album is way on the other end, with a dry demo-like ambience that I'm finding intriguing to listen to. I imagine that if you don't like this kind of thing, that might be kind of like me extolling a painting of dogs playing poker for the unusual design on the backs of the cards. Actually, it might be like that if you do like this sort of thing, too. Details are cool!

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Been listening to the Christian Mistress more, and liking it more pretty much every time. Finally dawned on me who they remind me of: UFO. Both instrumentally and even, in a way, with something in both Phil and Christine's voices.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 14:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

are alcest worthwhile live?

adam, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Adrien told me they were so I bought tickets.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, they've become a good live band.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Their vocals were painfully flat and sometimes off-key when I saw them. Not sure if it was an isolated experience or if that's just how they are. I don't like them very much, so...

beard papa, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another nice $10 lineup this Friday at Ultra Lounge. Anyone going?

Black Tusk
Royal Thunder
East Of The Wall
Hull

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 22:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw Alcest a couple of years ago, pretty great (it was just before the US tour where he lost his voice), saw them for the 2nd time a few weeks ago & the interim touring has seriously honed the band. If you like them already I'd say go. Only problem might be the venue/soundguy has to be able to cope with them. The recent show I saw seemed like you had to be stood in the right place, which luckily I was for the most part, as some positions in the venue it wasn't sounding as good.

Wandering Boy Poet, Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

ahh they're playing at this stupid art gallery nonsmoking type place that's like a square cinderblock room, we'll see. torche sounded like farting mud in that space. but hey it's $5.

adam, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

This new Black Breath kicks all kinds of ass. Just stunning from front to back.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Immortal/Tsjuder tomorrow in Lausanne - worth going? Haven't seen Immortal in years...

Siegbran, Friday, 9 March 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

dunno if anyone cares but there's now
Doom Metal Room http://open.soundrop.fm/s/Vw6FRBau3Qe1JQ0X (doom/sludge/stoner/drone etc)
and
Black Metal Room http://open.soundrop.fm/s/Vw6FJO3toeFpfBqa
on spotify/soundrop now.

You need links to join as they're not putting it on the main page in an experiment to avoid trolls and to see how many join via word of mouth. There's a bug just now that means the room appears empty so just go back to the main page and the room should be there so just click on the room and it will work.

DM (which presumably will cove Thrash/Grind too) room is coming in the future they said.

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 12 March 2012 16:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to the new Ancestors album, In Dreams and Time. The vocals are very Baroness-ish this time out, but some of the songs are more Pink Floyd-circa-1971 than anything they've ever done before. I really love their brand of retro stoner psych, and think this might be their best full-length to date.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Very curious to hear this solo album by Mike from Yob. Looks like he's channelling his inner Lebowski a bit more on this one.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

That sounds promsing re: the Ancestors album, but I'm one for whom "Pink Floyd-circa-1971" makes me happy, rather than run screaming.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 12 March 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I wrote about the A Storm Of Light/Valient Thorr/Torche/Corrosion Of Conformity show on one of my blogs if anyone is interested.

http://notfromtx.tumblr.com/post/19237527640/my-corrosion-my-conversion

Short version: Great show, and I want to follow Valient Thorr around in an airbrushed van with shag carpeting in the back.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yep, Valient Thorr absolutely kill it live. Would see them again anytime.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously one of the best bands I've seen a long time. They have 4 shows the next 4 nights within about a 4 hour drive from my house, and I have to say I'm sorely tempted. The two at SXSW are making me itchy.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

A bit early to review an Apr 3 release, but here's one for High On Fire's De Vermis Mysteriis
http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2012/03/12/highonfirereview-2/

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Valient Thorr are amazing live.. I've seen em 3 or 4 times.. the 1st time, the 1st year they did Warped tour, total fluke.. it was only 11am, butit was by far the best band I'd seen all day, and the fisrt one I'd seen doing big rock again. It was refreshing!

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 05:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

The new Asphyx, people! They've never sounded heavier, tad more doom than the previous one (don't let the video fool you). They've pretty much become the Motorhead of death metal, down to the inimitable vocals of Martin van Drunen.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

i love the new asphyx! i've been listening to the title track ('deathhammer'!) obsessively. (but it's all good)

cb, Thursday, 15 March 2012 10:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

'this is true death metal, you bastards!' - it's no idle boast neither.

cb, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

hi metal ppl, i'm listening to pallbearer right now and this is great, doesn't have the two things that i can never stand about lots of metal i hear ppl talking abt - shitty production and either gargling or screeching vox

konybrony (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 16 March 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Here's a thing I did for work: a Spotify playlist of 20 metal songs that use the "(X) of (Y)" titling formula.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 16 March 2012 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Rockin' like Wacken"? Really, J3ff? Otherwise, another great Lazarus Pit.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha, I was just coming here to link it. Well, while I'm here: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-angel-dusts-enlighten-the-darkness/

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

That track you embedded is really solid. Didn't think I'd like it, but you're slowly making me appreciate power metal again.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 16 March 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a genre with really a lot of dreck in it, but when something in it hits me, it hits me hard. Angel Dust are one of those bands that do the style really, really well, and get zero credit for it.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 16 March 2012 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SEAN

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 18 March 2012 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

thanks Kerr!

SeanWayne, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey Konybrony--there are LOTS of metal bands with great singers and great production. You're on the trail man.

Nate Carson, Monday, 19 March 2012 07:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

That Pallbearer album is good, another solid Profound Lore release.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Monday, 19 March 2012 09:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

This new Black Breath album is intense. As presented I'd say it is a good, solid record. However, if this was 15 minutes long I would love it to death. Even though it is a relatively short half-hour the intensity leaves me tired and a little bored. I appreciate that they try to change things up a bit by varying some tempos (particularly in the second half of the album), but even those initially slower songs tend to ramp right back up into the same tempo as everything else. I hope that songs like "The Flame" and "Obey" are received well, because they are trying to expand their palette of sounds (even if the former does escalate to familiar territory). A great record in small doses.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 15:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh wow, you guys, I've never listened to a Sigh record before and I'm listning to In Somniphobia right now. This is not at all what I expected, but I really like the OTTness of it all.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the new one yet but you should also check out imaginary sonicscape. that is a classic.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

scenes from hell was also strong, I thought. it's what got me back on board after losing interest for a few years.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

and pretty much everything these guys have ever done is way, WAY OTT.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks, I'll definitely be checking out more after this. For some reason, I always assumed they would be some sort of deadly serious band like Corrupted or whatever, did not expect this!

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the new Sigh album is easily their most interesting work since Imaginary Sonicscape, which is their best.

A. Begrand, Monday, 19 March 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

tweet from the promoter of tonight's black metal extravaganza mentioned upthread:

Nachtmystum weren't "feeling sxsw & decided to go home" Fucking BS!

So no Nachtmystium and no Bruce Lamont. Not cool, but this should mean the other bands get longer sets. And it is total fucking BS.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

That is "fucking BS". I don't understand the point of pull that shit either, its not like Nachtmystium are at a level where they can all fly first class down to Austin and turn around on a whim. Seems insane to travel all the way from Chicago to Austin and not even bother to do a show.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

This was supposed to be a special gig before they headed out - a short trip to Dallas, play with some friends, make a few bucks, head on home.

Oh well - Alcest gets to be the headliner again.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

why is the nachtmystium guy such a dick?

call all destroyer, Monday, 19 March 2012 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

well now i can make fun of him for always wearing unbelievably tight pants
nice pants

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hope the show goes on - line of storms coming through an hour before show time with tornados and torrential rain, and huge numbers of power outages expected. Winds already gusting in the 50 mph range.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's pretty metal.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

True. And pretty wet.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

3-6" rain in next 24-36 hours.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

with tornados and torrential rain
i read this as tomatoes and loled

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like Nice Pants may have had the right idea.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, Nicepantsium

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Biggest problem is nice pants didn't tell the booker until he was back in Chicago this afternoon. No chance to round up anyone else for the bill.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

More details coming out: Nachtmystium asked to play on the bill a couple of weeks ago. Booker didn't pursue them. Booker was then forced to reschedule to a larger venue because Nachtmystium apparently hasn't played here either at all or since the first record (not sure on that part), so their fans helped sell out the smaller venue very quickly.

Incredibly unprofessional.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow NachtmysiBUMS amirite?

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nachtseeinum

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kinda feel like Hot Topic should slide a copy of a Sigh album in with every copy of Iwrestledabearonce, to show the kids how the genre-mashing thing is really done.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh my god i love everything about this sigh record

thank you dudes

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

new one is definitely their best since Imaginary. Hangman's Hymn felt a little too straightforward and the production on Scenes from Hell was far too muddy.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

yea hangman's hymn was a big letdown for me and the production was terrible on that one too.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

altho I don't think I heard the reissue

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

mr. tightpants sounds like a douche btw

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok listening to this new sigh album.

sax solo - check

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

hanclaps - check
ennio morricone outro - check

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

hasn't Nachtmystium guy been kind of a dick from the jump? really puzzling to me how many people rep for that band who do not seem very interesting to me. Like I'm not a giant Alcest fan but I can see how you might be, but Nachtmystium, that one I don't really see how they're better than "local black metal opener"

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ha ha, Nicepantsium

― NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, March 19, 2012 8:36 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

irl lol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love their last two records, Pink Floyd black metal and post-punk black metal? Yes please!

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

the production on Scenes from Hell was far too muddy.

― NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, March 19, 2012 9:48 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that was part of the schtick for that record tho wasn't it? like, venom-style?

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Maybe? It didn't work.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

the v excellent 'somniphobia' just sold me on this ridiculous album, guys

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love their last two records, Pink Floyd black metal and post-punk black metal?
Yes please!

yeah, not really a fan, but if it appeals, there arent too many bands that would fit that description

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Has anyone heard 90s black metal Sigh? Is that stuff any good?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was hoping Nachtmystium would convert me to fandom by seeing them live. Instead, if Alcest gets an extra 10 minutes I'll be just as happy.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 March 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

iirc 90s bm sigh is decent but the best parts are what they ended up running wild with on later albums anyway (i.e. tablas, sax, pan flute, etc.)

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love their last two records, Pink Floyd black metal and post-punk black metal? Yes please!

― NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, March 19, 2012 5:20 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I like these albums a lot too but I will not vouch for their work ethic, questionable costuming, or primadonna tendencies.

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nachtmystium, Alcest and Sigh are all awesome.

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow NachtmysiBUMS amirite?

― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0),

Isn't the drummer actually called Bumgardener?

fuck deathcore and metalcore (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 19 March 2012 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

hasn't Nachtmystium guy been kind of a dick from the jump? really puzzling to me how many people rep for that band who do not seem very interesting to me. Like I'm not a giant Alcest fan but I can see how you might be, but Nachtmystium, that one I don't really see how they're better than "local black metal opener"

― plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, March 19, 2012 6:19 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i still think there is some pretty cool stuff on instinct: decay that suggested bigger/better things ahead but it never materialized, they're pretty bad now.

call all destroyer, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

as for sigh, i'm glad they're still doing their thing, i don't think i need to listen to a sigh record other than imaginary but it is good that they are in our lives.

call all destroyer, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

as for sigh, i'm glad they're still doing their thing, i don't think i need to listen to a sigh record other than imaginary but it is good that they are in our lives.

this is pretty much exactly my take on Sigh. probably really worth seeing live though.

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

New Black Breath is crushing!!

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Report from the show: no Nachtmystium or Bruce Lamont, as expected. Alcest merch. overpriced.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

LOVE IS A LIE

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alcest merch. overpriced.

how much do they want for a t-shirt? curious.

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

$25. The Atlas Moth is charging $10, other bands $15. Nice shirts though. Most double-sided, none tour specific, except for one from last fall's tour.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

$15-20 for a cd. No vinyl.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I picked up the Hull disc for $12.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

None of the stuff is outrageous, but highest prices I've seen at a Dallas show thus far (not counting Tori Amos - I didn't check but assume hers were higher).

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone hear the new aura noir yet? always like those guys.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 04:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hey guys, since we have Absu, Abzu and Apsu, what are the odds 2013's Absu album will be called Abba-Zaba-Zu. Please let this happen.

benernienie taumaupin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 05:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it's just going to be called "Abs".

Siegbran, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 11:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone hear the new aura noir yet? always like those guys.

didn't know there was one! love them, always good

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got the new Job for a Cowboy in my inbox yesterday. So far, sounds good.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I think the new aura noir officially drops this week! read a little article in decibel about the recording and they've supposedly never spent nearly as long writing an album and writing together as a band. bodes well, I'm sure. plus, hades rise was so killer. a real high water mark in their catalog.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

x-post, obv

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yup, new aura noir is good. Not too familiar with their back catalog, but I know quality when I hear it.

Unfortunately, the new Lullacry doesn't have it. Which is too bad, because I loved their last two records.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

lots of love for black thrash attack and hades rise but it's all good

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

New metal album roundup I wrote (10 albums from 2012; 5 from 2011 that I didn't hear until this year, including at least one that I probably had no right to call "metal"):

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/03/metal

Favorite metal album of 2012 so far (not rounded up yet): Thunderkraft's Totentanz.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

nice write-ups xhuxk. Happy to see you back exploring the heavier side of things and finding stuff worth your time.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i didn't know there was a new freedom hawk! shows how behind i am with my aquarius new release emails.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked about half the songs on the new Lullacry, but it's definitely going to have a hard time competing for listening time against Christian Mistress, Nightwish, Ideas, Lyriel, Xandria, Liv Moon, Diabulus in Musica, Epica, L'Ame Immortelle and Lunar Path.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wow this is a fun blog. Calling JD to the thread.

http://metal2thebone.blogspot.com/

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just got a promo of the new Pelican EP, hope to be reviewing it soon. Any thoughts?

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Give me two seconds to listen to it, geez.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

that every time i die record is great

/rolling metalcore

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

On the same note as Nate's link (although I think this guy has permission to put this stuff up), here's a bandcamp site with links to obscure Irish metal albums from the mid-80s to today: http://irish-metal.bandcamp.com/

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I was pretty excited for about the first 8 measures of the Black Breath record. But I didn't make it through the whole thing. I'm totally down with the vocal-as-drum explanation of non-melodic voices in metal. But I don't want to hear someone hitting the same drum over and over, without varying tempo or articulation, whether it's a metaphorical drum or an actual one.

Meanwhile, I really can't stop listening to this new Lyriel album Leverage. On some level it's wildly less impressive than the new Nightwish, of course, but for me it's 80% as gripping on 5% of the artifice, which is proportionally more surprising and maybe even more interesting.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 March 2012 02:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

you're trippin Glenn.. that new Black breath owns.. its kinda the same record as the previous one, a couple of different things here and there but its awesome imo... I don't want the vox to sound any other way than they dude.. Dudes voice is great, very powerful

SeanWayne, Friday, 23 March 2012 04:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

actually.. there are some cool surprises.. On my second listen I realized there are asome pretty cool guitar breaks, melodies and solos that were not the norm on the last offering..

SeanWayne, Friday, 23 March 2012 05:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

another thumbs up for the new Aura Noir here

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 24 March 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just got a press release that The Sword are signing with Razor & Tie... Does this mean hipsters no longer like metal?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

:/

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really liking Monnos, the debut full-length of Liverpool stoner/doom warriors Conan. The guitar tone is nice and fat, but the really joy for me is the drumming. Also, love the cover:

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

these guys own and the drummer is completely great to watch

like he has that performative sense of drama that drummers (or whoever) do when they play v slowly/sparsely, but he's not wacky with it

Cantera: Vulgar Display Of Puyol (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

going to have to check them out sometime.

picked up the new Angel Witch and 3 Inches of Blood albums over lunch, anxious to dig in

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Will I see any of you at the Profound Lore showcase in Pomona this Saturday?

http://scionav.com/event/250/YOB,-The-Atlas-Moth,-Loss,-Wolvhammer,-Pallbearer

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

What a lineup. If I was anywhere near California I would be there in a heartbeat. Convince 'em all to swing by Chicago.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

new meshuggah is fun

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm liking the new(ly released) Líam album MMIX, but I kind of don't want to go check to see if it's actually just a relabeling of one of the Mono albums I haven't played in a while.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I heard High On Fire's De Vermis Mysteriis and it's excellent. I listened to all five of the previous albums to see where it fits amongst it all, but I'm a bit wobbly now. So much rock, so much growling. I can't even tell from right and wrong.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not heard it yet but that's the first positive report i've heard of it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's streaming at NPR. Made it three songs in and decided it was fine, but I don't need more High On Fire in the same way I don't need more Motörhead. I'd just listen to it a few times and shelve it forever. If I want High On Fire I'll pull out Surrounded By Thieves or Blessed Black Wings.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty much what everyone said except they included the 1st (and best) album too

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

death is this communion is really good though

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

or whatever it was called

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't like the first record much.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

you always were a contrary bugger ;)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm really digging the Astra record that came out recently, The Black Chord. More spacey/proggy than heavy, but it mines that early 70s proto-metal vibe pretty well.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

not heard that yet either but again a lot say its not as good as the wierding. but im damn well looking forward to hearing it

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

i prefer to trust my own judgement i guess. Tho if people really hate something it can influence me to avoid it.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Based on this record I need to go back and hear The Weirding. Somehow missed it.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

got pallbearer cd in btw along with a couple of mournful congregation cds. Glorious doom

xp

you're in for a treat. I played a track in outloud once, im sure you were there.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the new Astra's a step up from The Weirding. They're always derivative, but I still thoroughly enjoy their stuff.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 29 March 2012 17:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listened to the first High On Fire the other day for the first time in years. It really does sound like a whole different band, but some of my favorite of their songs are on there ("10,000 Years" in particular).

In other news, I have a copy of the upcoming Gojira album and you don't.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

10,000 years is my alltime fave

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Interested to hear what you think of the Gojira album, Phil. It's been a very long time coming obviously.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's really good. They haven't changed their style much - they're still Gojira - but the more young, idea-less djent bands I listen to, the more brilliant these guys sound. Plus, the first song is one of the great album-opening tracks of all time. Seriously crushing.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 29 March 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah The Black Chord is really awesome, but i'm also totally a sucker for this stuff. i like the more spacey sound than The Weirding. totally unoriginal, retro shit but i'm down.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Art of Self Defense has the best songs. Surrounded By Thieves is the most brutal. Blessed Black Wings has the best sound. After that, I don't care anymore...

Nate Carson, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

These guys are very enthusiastic about the HoF
http://theobelisk.net/obelisk/2012/03/12/highonfirereview-2/
http://www.doommantia.com/2012/03/high-on-fire-de-vermis-mysteriis.html

And holy crap, Gojira! I didn't even know there was an official release date yet, let alone a title! What is the title? And the release date?

I like the new Astra, need to listen more. This sounds promising:
Mares Of Thrace - The Pilgrimage (Sonic Unyon) Apr 24

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Mares of Thrace album is crushing. Having Sanford Parker produce really brought out the heaviness of their live sound, plus the songs are ace.

A. Begrand, Friday, 30 March 2012 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Mares live and on CD. It's more abrasive than a lot of what I listen to these days, but it's really good. Pulls no punches.

Nate Carson, Friday, 30 March 2012 07:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously though, throw us a bone! What's the new Gojira called, and when's it out?

I've only heard the Mares of Thrace EP on Bandcamp so far, though my bud Collin mastered it. Look forward to hearing it based on this: http://www.doommantia.com/2012/03/mares-of-thrace-pilgrimage.html

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 March 2012 15:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm glad to live in a world where women can make such a terrific racket like that.

j., Friday, 30 March 2012 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you like generic D-beat from members of Extreme Noise Terror? Well, here you go anyway: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-disgusts-brutality-of-war/ (watch the YouTube embed, the intro is priceless).

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have both Disgust albums in my iPod. They're both really good.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Surprised that there is a High on Fire discussion without Algerian Goalkeeper complaining about the production on Snakes for the Divine.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, 10,000 Years and Last off the first album rule.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

And Fireface.

You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

New High on Fire is growing on me. It's not as immediate as some of their previous work, but there are layers to it.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

layers of skin? lizard skin?

j., Friday, 30 March 2012 20:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've got that Disgust album! It is 100% pure generic D-beat, but it's pretty enjoyable. There are/were better Dis- bands though.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Any suggestions? My selection process was basically "crap, blog post due tomorrow, I'll scan my CD collection, hey how about this one."

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, I hate to dispel the illusion…

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Disclose really took it to another level, a very noisy level.
Pisschrist's name doesn't begin with Dis but they rule(d) - I think they might've broken up though.
Raw Noise (another Extreme Noise Terror related band but I think they might predate them)
Avskum

then there's lots of crust bands - e.g. Disrupt! but that's (slightly) different

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Man, the High On Fire is great. Listen to Madness Of An Architect for chrissakes - it's easily one of the best songs they've done and there are a lot more slower, more epic introspective numbers... it's not just more of the same. Anyone else down with the new UFOmammut yet?

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm dying to hear it. It's been reviewed at, you guessed it, Doomantia - http://www.doommantia.com/2012/03/ufomammut-oro-opus-primum.html

The last time I saw High On Fire a couple years ago, it was a bit monochromatic, lacking in variety and dynamics. It was just too loud overall, so everything became a neverending block of sound, and I got bored. But the album does have variety, more interesting pacing, and dynamics. So it's strange to see anyone who have considered themselves fans dismissing it.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 30 March 2012 23:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Leaving for Alcest in Philly now. Really looking forward to it!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 31 March 2012 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Alcest were good when I saw them last week - much better than I expected. Have fun!

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 31 March 2012 01:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Listening to the new HOF now. I wasn't sure Ballou was a good choice for producer - thought he might indulge their worst instincts. But so far, the band sounds terrific. Don't really love the way he treats the vocals, but there's only so much you can do with Matt Pike's voice. And yeah, the songs are definitely solid.

I've also been really pleasantly surprised by the songs on the new Cannibal Corpse - they've actually broken ground, at least within the range of what it is they do. I really don't think there's anything else like "Scourge of Iron" in their discography. They've been on a streak for sure these past few years.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 31 March 2012 02:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like all Ufomammut, but the new one does sound a little "lazy/more of the same."

If you're a fan of heavy psych drone, it's a gift. But as someone who's followed their trajectory since the first demo, I'd like to see them branch out more. Of course if they d

Nate Carson, Saturday, 31 March 2012 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

...if they did, we'd just complain about that.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 31 March 2012 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't see how them recording one 90 minute song and splitting it over two albums isn't them breaking new ground...

Anyway, one quarter of the year is gone. Can we have some top fives?

1. High On Fire - De Vermis Mysteriis
2. UFOmammut - ORO: Opus Primum
3. Cannibal Corpse - Torture
4. White Hills - Frying On This Rock
5. Killing Joke - MMXXII

Obviously I'm including heavy rock in this as well at the moment.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 31 March 2012 10:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Right now my top contenders look like:

Accept - Stalingrad
Alcest - Les Voyages de L'Ame
Christian Mistress - Possession
Meshuggah - Koloss
Torche - Harmonicraft

A lot's going to change between now and December, but I see Accept hanging around the top 8, 9 months from now.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 31 March 2012 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, KEN Mode has just won the Juno Award (Canada's Grammy) for Metal/Hard Music Album of the Year. They deserved it the most out of all the nominees (Anvil, Cauldron, Devin Townsend, Fuck the Facts), but still this is pretty incredible.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 31 March 2012 23:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess my top 5 so far...

Eluveitie - Helvetios
Alcest - Les Voyages de L'Ame
Lyriel - Leverage
Christian Mistress - Possession
Black Pyramid - II

Mordy, Saturday, 31 March 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really having fun with the new 3 Inches of Blood, totally cheesy (I mean, "Metal Woman"? "Leather Lord"?) but so very fun.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Chile is weird. I haven't found any music I knew nothing about, but if you see kids in band t-shirts it's Death, Cannibal Corpse, Deicide and Morbid Angel - even in churches.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

haven't heard that many, but so far:

Asphyx - Deathhammer
Master's Hammer - Vracejte konve na místo
Accept - Stalingrad
Furia -Marzannie, Królowej Polski
Heidevolk - Batavi

Siegbran, Sunday, 1 April 2012 08:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Um, you guys, holy shit!!! Metal Archives is gone.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I've used that site more often that even wikipedia for research. I wonder where all that came from.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh fuck me, I just realized the date. Nevermind me guys.

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

April Jon.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 1 April 2012 14:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i had just woken up, thats my excuse

stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Top 5 so far:

1. El Doom & The Born Electric – El Doom & The Born Electric (Rune Grammofon)
2. Thunderkraft – Totentanz (Svarga)
3. 3 Inches Of Blood – Long Live Heavy Metal (Century Media)
4. Bushman’s Revenge – A Little Bit Of Big Bonanza (Rune Grammofon)
5. (Tie): Christian Mistress – Possession (Relapse)/The Devil’s Blood – The Thousandfold Epicentre (Metal Blade)

If #1 and #4 are deemed ineligible, I'd replace them with Angel Witch and Sigh.

xhuxk, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was just listening to that sigh album yesterday -- the cover was much more interesting to me than the music i'm afraid :/

Mordy, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

i thought (hoped) it'd be like renaissance gregorian folk metal type thing

Mordy, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm starting to cool off re the new High On Fire. Listened to a bunch of it in the car today and it just didn't sound that awesome. Not sure the world needs six High On Fire albums. (Says the guy with 15 Napalm Death albums and 21 Motörhead albums in his iPod.)

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Scion Profound Lore sh

Nate Carson, Monday, 2 April 2012 00:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

(argh iPhone)

Scion Profound Lore showcase was obviously awesome. YOB unsurprisingly stole the show. Atlas Moth definitely held their own in a deserved main support slot. And Pallbearer definitely lived up to the hype.

Now I'm back to rainy P-town. \m/

Nate Carson, Monday, 2 April 2012 01:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

I really want to hear the new High on Fire. Their first three were AMAZING! I still need to hear Snakes. Also really want to hear new Corrosion of Conformity & Cannibal Corpse

what is a dog-robber? (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 2 April 2012 01:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Astra too.

what is a dog-robber? (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 2 April 2012 01:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

My top 5, alphabetical order:

Iron Mtn - Iron Mtn
Pallbearer - Sorrow And Extinction
RAM - Death
Steelwing - Zone Of Alienation
Woods Of Ypres - Woods V: Grey Skies & Electric Light

Though I think several of these will have a tough time making it high on an end of year list. I also really am enjoying the Astra and Orange Goblin records, and have yet to hear the new Ancestors, Accept or Ufomammut.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 13:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was only kind of meh on the Orange Goblin tbh, but the Astra album sounds a bit more up my alley

the guy was ugly human (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm listening to that El Doom & the Born Electric record at the moment, it's good fun. Definitely in the Uncle Acid/ Orchid/ Blood Ceremony trad hard rock vein...

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

listened to the new nunslaughter yesterday. not bad.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh! didn't realize there's a new master's hammer!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Monday, 2 April 2012 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Forgot about the new Dawnbringer album too, it's a significant improvement over the last one. And yeah, watch out for Ancestors, they're going to blow a lot of people away with their debut this summer.

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ancestors debut? It's their third full-length. Or is their another Ancestors out there?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Agh, sorry, I mean Canadian band Ancients!

I've been doing this all week, I'm doing stories on Ancestors and Ancients, and I keep mixing the two bands names even though I've been listening to Ancestors for years.

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay. Was rather puzzled. So what's the short of it re: Ancients?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

i also like that Woods Of Ypres album

Mordy, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ancients is a new band out of Vancouver that's created a pretty unique sound in a really short time, and their debut album is excellent. It would fall in the same category as Baroness, Kylesa, and Mastodon, but there's more of a melodic/harsh dynamic going on as opposed to those bands' now-streamlined sounds.

Their 2011 EP can be heard here: http://ancientbear.bandcamp.com/

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

This had better be an April Fool, held over:

What between this picture and people preferring Cheap Trick to The Fall, I'm literally too angry to get any more work done.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 2 April 2012 15:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like that cover! (But I don't like The Fall, so whatever)

Adrien - Those two Ancients tracks were great! Definitely looking forward to a full-length.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

That cover reminds me of Bakshi's Wizards.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's a bit Vaughn Bodé via Heavy Metal magazine.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Why is the second back Tusken Raider doing a jig? What is the band font supposed to be? What is the colour of it for? Why not use an artist who can draw feet. It's not the content but the execution... Jesus, I think I'm having a fucking stroke I'm so irate.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Lol Doran otm (tho Wizards is p dope)

the guy was ugly human (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wanted to say a thing about Lyriel for anyone who hasn't checked them out. they're female-vox folk metal band that has been transitioning to symphonic metal. at the moment the transition is still a little incoherent, and (predictably) i prefer the more folk-inflected tracks to the symphonic ones. but i think they're really interesting with some decent tracks, even if the album as a whole doesn't mesh together. also, i love so much folk metal and symphonic metal but i've never been clear what the connection is between them (i think a certain kind of self-consciousness and maybe theatricality) but Lyriel is like trying to make that relationship explicit which makes them like triply interesting to me bc it's like their new album is excavating my own pre-occuptions. especially curious what jeff thinks about them.

Mordy, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Please forgive the blatant spam for my own site here but this has been amusing me today.

Can you make a Cannibal Corpse song lovely sounding by changing just one word?

Followed Home Then Cuddled and Force Fed Broken Biscuits are the best ones we've had so far:

Cannibal Corpse competition

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the cover. It almost justifies a totally pointless reissue. Almost.

It's a bit Vaughn Bodé via Heavy Metal magazine.

No Vaughn Bodé, no Arik Roper.

Semi-related question: Isn't it about time Richard Corben got critically re-assessed?

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like the Sleep cover! And I also like Cheap Trick better than the Fall. And I was pretty excited to listen to the Lyriel, but my Internet crapped out in the middle of the download and I can't download it again. I'll post my top five thingies at some point, it's been a pretty damn good year so far though.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also got a sneak peek of the new Witch Mountain at the Profound Lore showcase, big step up over the last one – especially with the vocals.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the new Witch Mountain is indeed a lot better than the last one. The longer tracks especially blow me away on this one. (well done, Nate!)

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

New Sonata Arctica is super weird, right? It's not just me?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

j3ff, the lyriel is on spotify fyi...

Mordy, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Sonata Arctica album is AWFUL. What a huge disappointment. There's banjo on it. Banjo. Ensiferum proved a couple years ago, never give a banjo to a Finn.

Meanwhile the new Sabaton album is kind of awesome. This coming from a guy who usually can't stand that band.

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was wondering if the banjo was a fever dream or not. The weird thing is, there are some really good tracks on there, but yeah, banjo.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

There are about three tolerable songs, but man, SA swung for the fences and all they did was whiff. An utter failure.

A. Begrand, Monday, 2 April 2012 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also, new Mgla album - very, very good so far. Could see this ending up in my top 5 this year.

Siegbran, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

New Master's Hammer is mainly an improvment on the vocals front, otherwise it's business as usual.

Siegbran, Monday, 2 April 2012 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also got a sneak peek of the new Witch Mountain at the Profound Lore showcase, big step up over the last one – especially with the vocals

how could uta plotkin possibly get any better <3

j., Monday, 2 April 2012 22:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

dude, she BELTS on this one. You haven't heard anything yet.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Monday, 2 April 2012 23:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to that Lyriel album almost every day for a couple weeks now. It's not unimpeachable by any means, particularly in the lyrics (if they sang in German it would be perfectly fine with me), but I think they've really nailed the of-course-the-violin-is-a-metal-instrument thing as well as anybody, and the guitar tone is just perfect, and Jessica Thierjung is great. And be sure to find the bonus-track version, because the two extra tracks there are among the best folk-metal moments on the album. Viscerally my favorite album of the year so far.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm happy i'm not alone on the lyriel love

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 00:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Okay, I have to listen to Lyriel asap.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

DAMN YOU INTERNET

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i played the title track for my mom (who often like evanescence-type metal bands, aka within temptation / lacuna coil) and she said it reminded her of pat benatar

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like it, it's a little more dignified and less goofy/gimmicky. Kind of like Brave.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 01:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I disagree with you re: High on Fire, Adrien – I think "Samsara" is a perfectly placed breather.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

It just goes on too long. It serves its purpose as far as album dynamics go I guess, but it's nothing I'd want to listen to on its own. I have a bigger problem with "King of Days". Other than that though, it's a mighty fine album.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 18:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

at first the pallbearer album just seemed doomy to me, but i'm starting to appreciate it more - it's got this remarkable thickness for songs that don't seem to stop moving (unlike e.g. i dunno reverend bizarre, who i've also been listening to lately).

j., Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously can't wait for you guys to hear the Gojira album.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

i laugh every time i read the phrase 'technical death metal'.

'well sure i guess if you want to call it that, but it's not really'

j., Tuesday, 3 April 2012 23:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh wow, i hadn't heard until just now that the venue management for the opening date of the Decibel Tour in ohio actually banned all of the bands from appearing over "religious" issues. this fuckin' country. thankfully rescheduled in a new venue.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 02:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the Witch Mountain props, guys. I feel like South of Salem was meant to remind the word that we're still a band, and Cauldron of the Wild is coming to prove that we're a really good band.

I work with some of the best bands out there, and for me to even remotely consider us in that company has meant years of very hard work. I'm proud of our efforts.

Pretty sure Uta Plotkin is going to be a household name by the end of this year. :)

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 08:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

plotkin.uta

j., Wednesday, 4 April 2012 11:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really excited to hear Cauldron of the Wild! I was a latecomer to South of Salem, only picking it up with the recent reissue, but I've spent a lot of time with it. In fact, it was enough to get my wife's ears to perk up a couple of times, which usually doesn't happen with much metal.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wanna hear cauldron of the wild too! why isn't it on bandcamp?

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Because it's not out till July?

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

Or June, I can't remember.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is very hard on my instant gratification glands

Mordy, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 15:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of gratification, now he's just torturing us.

Seriously can't wait for you guys to hear the Gojira album

What's it called? What's the release date? I can't find nothin' about it!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's called L'Enfant Sauvage, and it'll be out 6/26.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, basically. I've had the record in my iPod since Thursday, and it totally kicks ass, but that Blabbermouth piece quotes the official press release which went out this morning. There's more on their page on the label site.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fuckin' A this High On Fire is kicking my ass all over the place and I'm only three tracks in. Kurt Ballou did great.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 20:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i listened to it last night and while i feel the "why do we need another high on fire record" comments, it's a really, uh, fun record

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think we need a new one because the production wasn't all that great on the last one and this one has a song called "Madness of the Architect" and because its fuckin' High On Fire. like, does any sane person question the need for another new Motorhead album? no, we just thank the dark lord that they still exist.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't really have any problem with the production on 'snakes'.

j., Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think we need a new one because the production wasn't all that great on the last one and this one has a song called "Madness of the Architect" and because its fuckin' High On Fire. like, does any sane person question the need for another new Motorhead album? no, we just thank the dark lord that they still exist.

This is exactly it. Madness Of The Architect is one of the best things they've done and the album kicks ass. This is Rolling Metal not Rolling Desperately Trying To Pretend I Wasn't Into Chill Wave Two Years Ago And Am Now Being Really Dismissive About It. The only thing I'm disappointed with really is the sub William Blake artwork.

XP: I don't either. I listened to Bastard Samurai yesterday and it sounded immense.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah i didn't hate the production on the last one, but the new one sounds so good it makes me think a little less of what Snakes sounded like.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

eight tracks in now and this still sounds so fucking good and this might eventually end up being my favorite album of theirs

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

New metal CDs purchased at Best Buy today for $9.99 or less: Overkill, Ministry, High On Fire (only $7.99 with coupon I found on Facebook) and Goatwhore.

I'd rather support a local retailer but there ain't none that sells these things cheaply that I know of. I am open to correction, Philly dwellers... And most of them are more expensive at Amazon when you factor in shipping.

In the live realm, next week I will be seeing Ghost (supporting Mastodon and Opeth, but I am going just to see Ghost), The Pretty Reckless and (if I can get someone to take my shift at work) Peelander-Z.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 23:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

POWER METAL The protagonist arrives riding a white unicorn, escapes from the dragon, saves the princess and makes love to her in an enchanted forest.

* THRASH METAL The protagonist arrives, fights the dragon, saves the princess and fucks her.

* HEAVY METAL The protagonist arrives on a Harley, kills the dragon, drinks a few beers and fucks the princess.

* FOLK METAL The protagonist arrives with some friends playing accordions, violins, flutes and many more weird instruments, the dragon falls asleep (because of all the dancing). Then all leave…….. without the princess.

* VIKING METAL The protagonist arrives in a ship, kills the dragon with his mighty axe, skins the dragon and eats it, rapes the princess to death, steals her belongings and burns the castle before leaving.

* DEATH METAL The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon, fucks the princess and kills her, then leaves.

* BLACK METAL The protagonist IS the dragon, dwells in the heart of the night with in a castle full of hellhounds and eternal flames. He kills the sassy knight, fucks the noble steed and sacrifices the princess to Satan.

* GORE METAL The protagonist arrives, kills the dragon and spreads his guts in front of the castle, fucks the princess and kills her. Then he fucks the dead body again, slashes her belly and eats her guts. Then he fucks the carcass for the third time, burns the corpse and fucks it for the last time.

* DOOM METAL The protagonist arrives, sees the size of the dragon and thinks he could never beat him, then he gets depressed and commits suicide. The dragon eats his body and the princess as dessert. That’s the end of the sad story.

* PROGRESSIVE METAL The protagonist arrives with a guitar and plays a solo of 26 minutes. The dragon kills himself out of boredom. The protagonist arrives to the princess’ bedroom, plays another solo with all the techniques and tunes he learned in the last year of the conservatory. The princess escapes looking for the ‘HEAVY METAL’ protagonist.

* GLAM METAL The protagonist arrives, the dragon laughs at the guy’s appearance and lets him enter. He steals the princess’ make up and tries to paint the castle in a beautiful pink colour.

* NU METAL The protagonist arrives in a run down Honda Civic and attempts to fight the dragon but he burns to death when his moronic baggy clothes catch fire.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

wow, how was that necessary

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

decided it needed polled
IMPORTANT ILM GENRES POLL

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

this is like watching a leak growing knowing that soon i'll be looking at a ship sinking

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

hopefully not

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

what are you on about?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

that offensive thing you posted
but i don't really want to talk about it or have that conversation, so i didn't

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

did you come up with that yourself, AG?

Year of the RMDE (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

no, it was on seans facebook(he found it)

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

and i found it amusing

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

it is k amusing

a lot of seriously talentless bassists out there (loves laboured breathing), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

so it definitely couldn't be mine, when did i come up with something funny?

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

So what's the release date for the new Witch Mountain? Who's putting it out?

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Profound Lore is releasing it.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

ok new HOF is pretty massive

j., Thursday, 5 April 2012 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

The first track from the wickedly good new Mares of Thrace album is streaming at Pitchfork...http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/13407-act-i-david-glimpses-bathsheba/

Looking forward to seeing them again in a month.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 5 April 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

High On Fire (only $7.99 with coupon I found on Facebook)

Nice of this fucking coupon to go around Facebook well after I'd already paid $9.99 for it. Bastards. :p

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

That list that AG posted has been floating around for years, not sure why it resurfaced now. I think I can see why LL doesn't like it.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

-5 for not yelling I WANT MY $2, jvc

also, jeff you know that i don't like it because there are 0 lols about stoner metal ;)

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that metal genre thing has surfaced on FB over the past few days for some reason. it really doesn't help convince people that already don't respect metal as a genre when it can only be described through the concept of raping women. awful.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was pretty funny. "The dragon kills himself out of boredom."

A. Begrand, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

better ban teaching about vikings in history then

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you can't understand the difference between discussions of rape within a real, historical context versus using rape as a basis for Facebook "humor", then i don't know

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

the point is everyone knows that its not condoning rape. its poking fun at vikings, who amongst other things, were infamous for rape and pillage. i doubt anyone reading it think its condoning rape apart from you.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

where did i say it was "condoning" rape?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

can i recommend dropping it?

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

it = this conversation

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rape jokes are rarely funny. Even if the stereotypes are broadly accurate, having the whole thing be so rapey isn't necessary.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

defining subgenres of metal through various kill/rape narratives = condoning rape to some degree

gimme prizza (crüt), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

can i recommend dropping it?

fair enough, but i don't always think ignoring the elephant in the thread is the best way to handle it. but i can see i'm not going to convince people otherwise itt, so i'll let it go.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean, it's also inaccurate because it implies that metal is more about sex than it actually is… That said, there are some funny elements of the meme, but it's also incredibly misogynistic (which I suppose isn't to say that metal can't be incredibly misogynistic).

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 5 April 2012 21:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

its poking fun at vikings, who amongst other things, were infamous for rape and pillage

new board description?

Rudy Ray Reardon (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 5 April 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is Rolling Metal not Rolling Desperately Trying To Pretend I Wasn't Into Chill Wave Two Years Ago And Am Now Being Really Dismissive About It.

Doran you slay for this btw

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 6 April 2012 00:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think it shines dragons in a poor light...

SeanWayne, Saturday, 7 April 2012 00:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

no one wants to fuck a Viking, they have to rape...

SeanWayne, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Golden Gods: The History of Heavy Metal opens at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles on April 11. Curated by Revolver staff, ugh. They should have at least made it a joint effort involving folks from Decibel, Terrorizer and ILX!
http://www.cherrybombed.com/2012/04/golden-gods-the-history-of-heavy-metal-exhibit-opens-in-la-on-april-11th/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=golden-gods-the-history-of-heavy-metal-exhibit-opens-in-la-on-april-11th

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Got the DVD set of that Metal Evolution thing today - VH1 sent one over at my request, ha ha. Gonna check it out this weekend.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 7 April 2012 01:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that all 10 or 12 installments? I want that! Are they going to sell it soon? I missed pretty much all of them. They are now playing them on some premium VH1 channel that I don't subscribe to, probably same one that That Metal Show is on.

Anyone going to the Decibel Devil's Blood, In Solitude, Watain, Behemoth show? I may have an extra ticket to the one in Chicago this Friday the 13th.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 9 April 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Would totally be going to that if I weren't already going to see the Heritage Hunter tour that night.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 April 2012 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's the entire series on 3 DVDs.

Heritage Hunter tour hits NYC on Wednesday night, but I'm actually not going - I've seen all three bands already and would rather be at home watching the previous night's season finale of Justified (I buy the show from Amazon so I get it 24 hours later). I am interviewing Mikael earlier that afternoon, though.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've never seen Ghost or Opeth, so I'm pretty excited.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 April 2012 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was gutted when Ghost dropped off the Enslaved tour last fall, so it's great to have a second chance at finally seeing them.

A. Begrand, Monday, 9 April 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Metal Evolution is available on Amazon, but reviews complain that it's a DVD-R with some glitches. That's disappointing. If they can show repeats on an HD channel, you'd think they could put it on Blu-Ray.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 9 April 2012 16:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not able to get a link to the twitter picture to work, but the cover art for the new Witch Mountain is fantastic.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 April 2012 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

here it is - warning BIG:

Withc Mountain - Cauldron Of The Wild

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 April 2012 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks. The band's logo is the best part.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 April 2012 20:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

love the color scheme!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Monday, 9 April 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Now that is some album art right there! Pay down the plastic skull bong and pay attention Sleep!

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Put down"

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I need to pay down the plastic skull bong.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes, yes you do.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thanks guys! Yeah, we figure if Billy Anderson is producing and Mell Dettmer is mastering and Profound Lore is putting it out, we might as well make it look awesome too ;)

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

What's the release date Nate? I know you told me but I forgot.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

June 12. Profound Lore just announced it yesterday. And we are touring the East Coast, NE Canada, and the Midwest in June. Sorry no Texas this year!

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

AAARGHHH!

MAybe someone wil buy my damn house and I can come see you on your home turf.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

mid
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two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is that a request for Chicago I hear?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Duh!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

June 16. Ok I'm done cluttering up this space with ads. We'll announce the whole tour in the next week. xo to all.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Currently really enjoying the new Wild Hunt album. For fans of latter era Enslaved and mid-era Opeth.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hear tht minneapolis/saint Paul is in the Midwest, just fyi

sfdgafhtehw (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

chalk up another vote for chicago Nate, as long as i get to say hello.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 02:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

the East Coast

So where in Brooklyn will you be, exactly?

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 02:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I might try to make the Chicago show

THE SPACEMENT TAPES (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 03:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

We should all go -- it's on my calendar already!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 04:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

On mine too, don't want to miss this show.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

You guys are making me blush. Saint Vitus in Brooklyn. Empty Bottle in Chicago. Closest we'll get to the Twin Cities is either Milwaukee/Madison or Dubuque, IA.

We should be announcing the full tour along with all album infos next week.

And for those of you who are dying to hear the album early, bug Josh Eldridge at Conspiracy PR. He's our dude as of 6am this morning.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

whoa, saint vitus. walking distance for me!

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

My question was actually more of a bitter joke - if you're playing Brooklyn, which fucking everyone fucking does, I can't come to your show because of mass transit hassles.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nate – done and done. Downloading now.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Blows my mind that anyone plays Dubuque. When I grew up there, no one came, except for maybe Rush and Billy Squier at the Five Flags Theater!

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dubuque happens for two reasons: 1) it's a perfect midpoint between Lincoln and Chicago (not to mention Minneapolis) and 2) There's one guy there fighting the good fight and making shit happen.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 12 April 2012 00:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

love those fight the good fight guys...

SeanWayne, Thursday, 12 April 2012 01:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Is it worth my while bugging Josh at Conspiracy for the new album? I've only been reviewing stuff for a local but great music site for a little bit, so I don't want to be wasting anyone's time.

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Are there any online radio stations you would recommend for interesting new metal? I think my tastes are pretty ILM-ish. I like nearly everything from the top 20 of last year's poll. Some bands I like include: Krallice, Alcest, Corrupted, Liturgy, Yob, Deathspell Omega, Blut Aus Nord, Caina, Nachtmystium, Meshuggah. Most of the online metal radio I find doesn't really seem to fit what I'm looking for (especially when I want to avoid NSBM:P).

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 12 April 2012 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think I'm liking Kim Kelly, the new metal reviewer at Pitchfork, particularly after their review of the new Conan today. Anybody know if this is the same female Kim Kelly behind Catharsis PR?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

and writes for terrorizer

Algerian Goalkeeper, Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

ah-hah, thats where I've seen the name too, i couldn't remember which mag it was though

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 April 2012 20:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

same kim kelly from freaks and geeks?

Mordy, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

so are the rumors of watain visa problems/cancellation for the decibel tour true because if so ultra sadface

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

oh and speaking of tours, saw last weeks paganfest and man its getting pretty tired. huntress was TERRIBLE, basically the only thing worth seeing that hadnt been on previous bills was Arkona, who were actually pretty awesome. def didnt need to see alestorm again or turisas for the 50th time

Rango Unchained (jjjusten), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm seeing Huntress next weekend, when they open for DragonForce.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 13 April 2012 02:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

so are the rumors of watain visa problems/cancellation for the decibel tour true because if so ultra sadface

i hadn't heard anything beyond this, from the Decibel blog:

Swedish black metal horde Watain have been forced to pull out of the first four shows of their previously announced Decibel Magazine Tour—scheduled to begin tomorrow (April 11) in Columbus, Ohio—due to delays in the visa process. They will join Behemoth, the Devil’s Blood and In Solitude as part of the tour on April 16 at Granada Theater in Lawrence, KS.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 April 2012 03:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know lots of people are enjoying Roadburn or whatever, but I'll settle for The Heritage Hunter Tour tomorrow night. Really seems like Mastodon is still pushing themselves away from the prog thing, the longest song they've been playing for the last couple of nights has been "Crack the Skye" at just under six minutes.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 April 2012 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really, really excited for the Heritage Hunter tour, it's pretty much a dream lineup for me.

But yeah, Roadburn is awesome so far. Best bands of Day 1: Year of the Goat, Christian Mistress, Horisont, Killing Joke, Agalloch, and Spiders.

A. Begrand, Friday, 13 April 2012 08:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait to hear a full report Adrien! I've been jealously following your Twitter feed so far. Have a blast. I'm wearing my Nachtmystium t-shirt in solidarity today.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 13 April 2012 14:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

This week's spam, worth checking out if for nothing other than the band photo in the middle of the page: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-disharmonic-orchestras-expositionsprophylaxe/

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 13 April 2012 19:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Aw man, sounds awesome. I've been playing the Spiders EP and single nonstop this year, glad you saw 'em.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 13 April 2012 22:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nice to see Disharmonic Orchestra get some props! I still only have that album on cassette.

nobody gives a shit about the githzerai (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 14 April 2012 06:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I saw Ghost and Opeth - left after the latter because I have seen Mastodon dozens of times and don't like the new album. Ghost were great, well worth the wait to see them. Nameless Dude was literally glowing in the dark, causing a couple fans next to me to remark "Wow, he's REALLY A ghost!" The NWOBHM BOC vibe really shined through live.

Opeth didn't bore me which was a rarity as they usually do. I still cannot imagine listening to an Opeth CD all the way through...

I also saw The Pretty Reckless the other night. Wow, what a great show. Taylor Momsen was rocking a Cannibal Corpse shirt. In fact, the picyure of her with the pigtails is exactly how she looked in Philly:

(I don't know why the website says anything about Metallica, I guess they figure Metallica and Cannibal Corpse are somehow the same?!?!?)

I opined a lot more about the show in the Pretty Reckless thread for those who care.

Other April shows:

Scream (maybe; depends on finances)
Black Dahlia Murder with my Ohio friends Skeletonwitch.
Bad Brains (if I can get tickets, they sold out the Troc, WTF!!!)
Cattle Decapitation
Rammstein

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 14 April 2012 08:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd always liked French band Celeste, but holy crap are they ever good live. Not only is the music ultra-intense, but they play in a thick fog of smoke wearing red head lamps and using strobe lights non-stop. Incredible atmosphere.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 14 April 2012 11:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd love to see Celeste live. I thought it was only me who liked them. It's what I imagine trepanation is like.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love them too. I'm the only person I've ever seen in one of their shirts, I think.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Read that as skirts. Thought I was about to get introduced some whole new subculture thing.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I don't have the legs for them tbh.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

That's the thing with third wave bm skirts. You've gotta have the pins for them. They leave you nowhere to hide.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Heritage Hunter tour was great, I had a lot of fun. Ghost was phenomenal and they come off a lot heavier on stage, which really adds some power. Nameless Dude is such a great showman, its one thing to dress up in the demonic pop outfit, but he absolutely sells it. Opeth were fantastic, and the Heritage stuff sounded really great mixed in with the older stuff on the setlist. "Demon of the Fall" brought the house down. Mastodon was great, much better than the last time I saw them when the Crack the Skye cycle seemed to be wearing on 'em a little. They just tore through their set and everyone seemed really on.

How was the Decibel show fastnbulbous?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Saturday, 14 April 2012 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Decibel show in Philly is the same day as The Body at another venue... That doesn't make a damn bit of sense!

Wonder how many Deci-dudes will be at the Philly show...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 14 April 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

It was so great! Even though it was sold out, it was totally comfortable in there, plenty of good spots. The first few songs of In Solitude's set sounded a bit murky, and I was having trouble getting into it. But I was hanging in the back waiting to get a ticket to a friend who arrived late. Once I got a good spot in the middle of the room it was much better, and I got to enjoy the twin guitar action. Then we moved up to three guitars with Devil's Blood! F (the singer) was truly spooky. In between songs she'd just stay inert like a statue with her eyes rolled back into her head. They played most of my favorites with the catchiest melodies, and near the end had two extended jams. It was pretty hypnotic, and I didn't get bored with the solos at all, as there's all sorts of twists and subtle references to the likes of Wishbone Ash and all sorts of obscure 70s European prog and folk I've probably never heard. Would live a peek at their record collections. I couldn't stay for Behemoth, as I had to get up at 6 for a race this morning, so it's just as well Watain couldn't make it.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

now listening to the new Jeff Loomis - first track is fucking knuckles-down thrash tempo! and then he starts soloing...this dude's tone, fucking A. He slays. So stoked for this record. Probably going to see him live on Wednesday, fuck yes

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 April 2012 17:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thantifaxath/Aesahaettr/Eggs of Gomorrh coming to my town next week, US ilxors, is this worth seeing?

Siegbran, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 08:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I got into a flamewar with a friend of James Murphy on Murphy's Facebook page about the Violence Against Women Act. It turns out that Murphy leans Democrat but I find this atypical of most American metalheads. Why oh why are metalheads so conservative politically, relative to others in their age group and interests? I never understood this.

Can one of you guys who writes for Decibel kindly write an amazing story that addresses this phenomenon?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I feel like you could armchair analyze the phenomenon pretty easily. It might only bear a passing resemblance to the 'truth,' tho.

Mordy, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Huh. All the metalheads I knew growing up and know now are left-leaning. Or at least socially liberal and fiscally conservative. One calls himself a "liberaltarian".

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

There is not a shortage of libby metalheads, to be sure, but I (possibly because I am biased) have been shocked at the sizable number who are not.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 20:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, all the metal dudes I know are firmly on the left. Of course, I live in Los Angeles, so might have more to do with that.

Are those real bands, Siegbran, or did you just smash your fingers on the keyboard to make weird band names to make fun of us?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love that bands are not just making logos that are unreadable but have extended it to the names themselves.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

THOSE ARE REAL BANDS

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's likely a good number of metal dudes who model their politics after the Nuge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=06XVt6zEr9E

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Really? American metalheads are so right-wing that even the liberal ones are economic conservatives? The metal/hardcore guys I knew growing up were like left-anarchist. Except for the ones who were just apathetic stoners, I guess.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I guess maybe I'm thinking more of guys who were into Neurosis and Union of Uranus than guys who were into Fear Factory and Cannibal Corpse.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 22:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

i wonder what guys who listen to black label society and pantera are into. Here in the UK id be surprised if they were right wing tbh.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

You need some new whipping horse bands. Have you considered Five Finger Death Punch?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 17 April 2012 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think there are more right-wing metal fans than left-leaning boohoos like yours truly.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 07:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

I would think most are apolitical? to me this makes sense since the majority of metal lyrics don't tackle political issues and stick to fantasy and escapism.

most metalheads I know lean left fwiw.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

Siegbran I don't know those bands & was gonna say something snarky about the New Wave of North American Black Metal (which I'd generally advise you to ignore) but a quick check reveals Thantifaxath is on Dark Descent - that's a good label - they put out Goreaphobia, who're just reliably great, and Father Befouled, who were pretty enjoyable HHB-friendly BM, and Grave Ritual, who aren't breaking down any doors but have an ear for atmosphere & some chops too. Thantifaxath does however have only 1 release, a tape, to their name...I have mixed feelings about new bm bands making tapes.

Eggs of Gomorrh look like decent enough warlike bm

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 14:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Another 15 new metal albums reviewed, rounded up, and ordered (including only a handful that stretch the definition -- two of which were reviewed by other people):

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/04/metal

xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

I refuse to listen to any band with the word egg in their band name.. lol

SeanWayne, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Eggbeard

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

UGH JEFF LOOMIS IS SHREDDING SO HAAAAAAAARD ON THIS NEW RECORD BUT MRS A IS SICK I MAY HAVE TO STAY HOME AND PLAY NURSE INSTEAD OF SEEING HIM TONIGHT but that's the breaks but anyway yeah this record kills

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone hear the new UFOMAMMUT yet?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Have y'all seen the Gojira album cover? I think it's gonna look excellent on a T-shirt.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Gojira but not that cover.

The UFOmammut is good. I think it's still streaming at Roadburn website if you want to hear it.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah thats actually one of my least favorite Gojira covers, looks like some second tier indie band cover.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I kinda dig it. There was an earlier cover design I liked a lot more, but this one's pretty good. Besides, it's not like we had veto power - it was designed by Mario Duplantier, the drummer.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'd say the Ufomammut is more than just good!

I stumbled on this - sales info on metal albums:
http://www.metalinsider.net/metal-by-numbers

Notable debuts: first week sales after album debuts

Van Halen, A Different Kind of Truth (Interscope) #2, 187,500 sold
Shinedown, Amaryllis (Atlantic) #4, 105,770 sold
The Used, Vulnerable (Hopeless) #8, 31,520 sold
Halestorm, The Strange Case Of… (Atlantic) #15, 23,840 sold
The Mars Volta, Noctourniquet (Warner Bros.) #14, 20,900 sold
Meshuggah, Koloss (Nuclear Blast) #16, 18,340 sold
Every Time I Die, Ex-Lives (Epitaph) #20, 14,020 sold
Demon Hunter, True Defiance (Solid State) #34, 12,500 sold
Cannibal Corpse, Torture (Metal Blade) #38, 9,600 sold
Veil Of Maya, Eclipse (Sumerian) #62, 7,750 sold
High On Fire, De Vermis Mysteriis (eOne) #61, 7,400 sold
Emmure, Slave to the Game (Victory) #59, 7,040 sold
Overkill, The Electric Age (eOne) #73, 6,500 sold
Mark Lanegan Band, Blues Funeral (4AD) #89, 5,740 sold
Accept, Stalingrad (Nuclear Blast) #76, 5,383 sold
Job for a Cowboy, Demonocracy (Metal Blade) #80, 4,880 sold
Eluveitie, Helvetios (Nuclear Blast) #109, 4,240 sold
Corrosion Of Conformity, Corrosion Of Conformity (Candlelight) #120, 3,840 sold
Goatwhore, Blood for the Master (Metal Blade) #171, 3,110 sold
Ministry, Relapse (13th Planet/AFM) #154, 3,020 sold
The Pretty Reckless, Hit Me Like A Man EP (Interscope) #150, 2,900 sold
Jeff Loomis, Plains of Oblivion (Century Media) #139, 2,880 sold
Municipal Waste, The Fatal Feast (Nuclear Blast) #152, 2,680 soldd
3 Inches of Blood, Long Live Heavy Metal (Century Media) #198, 2,360 sold
Napalm Death, Utilitarian (Century Media) 2,180 sold
Pelican, Ataraxia/Taraxis (Southern Lord) 1,280 sold
Orange Goblin, A Eulogy for the Damned (Candlelight) 990 sold
Earth, Angels of Darkness, Demons of Light II (Southern Lord) 920 sold
Black Breath, Sentenced to Life (Southern Lord) 700 sold
Unsane, Wreck (Alternative Tentacle) 620 sold
Angel Witch, As Above So Below (Metal Blade) 530 sold
Death, Vivus! (Relapse) 520 sold
Christian Mistress, Possession (Relapse) 520 sold
Naglfar, Teras (Century Media) 450 sold
Terrorizer, Hordes of Zombies (Season of Mist) 380 sold

Ghost, Opus Eponymous (Rise Above) 400 sold
Quite possibly the biggest surprise of the week is seeing Ghost’s over a year old debut album experiencing an impressive 59% increase in sales. While the mysterious Swedish doom group have just been added to the Orion Music & More lineup, this sudden jump in sales is most likely due to their current opening stint on Mastodon and Opeth’s tour.

I guess Christian Mistress isn't exactly taking over the world yet.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

caught the Loomis show. got there a little late. probably the best guitar playing I've seen outside of the classical world. fucking nuts and awesome. go see him if he comes to your town. it's a short set, he's on a package tour but fuckin A he is tremendous.

same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

wouldn't surprise me that the Heritage Hunter is really helping Ghost out, i was impressed by how people got there early to see them and they converted a lot of skeptics around where i was standing.

but sadface at "400 sold". i mean, 2012 music industry and all, but goddamn thats a tiny number.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 April 2012 02:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

G4y witch abortion/wizard rifle/nightosaur show tonight! Should be awesome

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

helluva bill

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

cant remember who it was that pimped wizard rifle in the past (i think nate maybe) but let me just say HOLY SHIT.

super nice dudes too. great great show.

Badu and a sax run hand-in-hand (jjjusten), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anybody planning on seeing Negura Bunget? Their US tour kicks off tomorrow, and I can't go (show's in Brooklyn) but I really want a T-shirt. If someone's gonna be there (or at any of the dates) and can help me out, let me know.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Thinking of going to see Crowbar/Prong/Witchburn tomorrow at Cobra Lounge. A friend knows Witchburn, who I'm especially interested in, as I've been greatly expanding my Metal Sirens piece (update should be done this weekend, including Mares Of Thrace, Undersmile, Ides Of Gemini, Alunah, Worm Ouroboros, Shroud Eater & Dark Castle). I'm also enjoying the new ones by Royal Thunder, Castle and Witch Mountain immensely. Witchburn will be following up This Is How We Slay Our Demons (2010) with another Jack Endino produced album this summer. There's so much many good bands with female leads these days!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was just commenting to my buddy last night that this has been a really great year for female fronted metal, but ironically very little of the great stuff has been what I would define as "girly metal."

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anybody planning on seeing Negura Bunget? Their US tour kicks off tomorrow, and I can't go (show's in Brooklyn) but I really want a T-shirt. If someone's gonna be there (or at any of the dates) and can help me out, let me know.

was thinking of catching it but got sick, sorry. :-/

still curious... anybody know if they're good live? only one original member remaining, right?

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 20 April 2012 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

I reviewed the new Pelican here: http://thumped.com/music-reviews/pelican-ataraxia-taraxis.html

wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, 20 April 2012 11:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

Free download of the new album by awesome death metal act Dreaming Dead, today only. You have to give them your e-mail, but I'm sure you guys have junk folders.

http://www.reverbnation.com/artist/downloads/417574

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 20 April 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am indeed Wizard Rifle's pimp. They're hitting the full US now. Catch them if you can.

Nate Carson, Saturday, 21 April 2012 11:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed the hell out of Devil's Blood on the Decibel tour last night. In Solitude were kids having fun, but terrible sound. Devil's Blood really brought it. I'm sure Watain was good too but I had somewhere to be...

Nate Carson, Monday, 23 April 2012 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

I heard the upcoming debut from Jess and the Ancient Ones, a Finnish band with some similarities to The Devil's Blood. I think I might like it even more than The Thousandfold Epicentre. They're included in my piece here - http://www.fastnbulbous.com/metal-sirens.htm, but I there aren't any links to stream via Bandcamp or Soundcloud yet. Hopefully they'll correct that soon. Writers who want to hear it can contact Tomi at Svartrecords.com. That makes seven new releases of heavy bands with female lead vocalists coming out in the next six weeks, and most of them are mindblowingly great!

By sheer chance, I learned last minute that another band that would fit my piece, Witchburn, were opening for Prong and Crowbar Friday night. A friend from work who went to hs with the drummer told me about it, and since it was sold out, got me on the list. I was so impressed, and bought the CD (This Is How We Slay Our Demons... (2010) and a t-shirt. The album was produced by Jack Endino, and they're heading to the studio next month to start on their next one with Endino. Also coming out later this summer is English band Alunah's second album, White Hoarhound, Purson's debut on Rise Above, and hopefully Spiders.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Saw Huntress and DragonForce last night. (Didn't see the middle band on the bill, Holy Grail, as I was in DragonForce's dressing room talking to them and their manager.) DragonForce are really good live - the new frontman, Marc Hudson, is about 6'5" and blond - he kinda looks (and carries himself) like a young, guileless Sebastian Bach. I mean that in a good way. He's totally excited about being up there, has already learned how to duck out of the way when the other members come forward for their solos or line up for guitar choreography (including the bassist and the keyboardist, who wields his keytar like a broadsword). They're playing four or five songs from the new album live, which considering that the new songs are on average two and a half minutes shorter than songs from previous albums, helps keep the set going that much faster than previous tours. Seriously, if they come through your town, check 'em out.

Huntress were pretty good, too. The band's instrumentalists dress in denim vests and jeans and with their long hair and beards they kinda looked like Valient Thorr, but they have approximately .0001% of Valient Thorr's showmanship and stage presence - they mostly stand in one spot, occasionally pointing a pointy guitar at the ceiling. Jill Janus is an excellent singer, but not much of a frontwoman - she wears more clothes on stage than she does in the band's promo photos, sporting a spandex catsuit rather than a tiny bathing suit on this particular occasion (and since she shouted out her younger sister in the audience, I was actually kinda glad about that, for her sake). But her voice is really solid. I recommend getting there early to hear them, if not necessarily to see them.

Funny thing about that show: It was all-ages, so when Janus came out to the Huntress merch table after their set, she was immediately besieged by, and spent close to half an hour taking pictures with, a small army of 16-year-old boys.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hellbeard played with Behold! the Monolith on Saturday night in Reno, Nevada.. I talked to the bass player/singer for a minute, seemed like a cool guy. He invited us to L.A. whenever we get the notion to go down there, and he said they hook us up.. The rabid fans of about 25-30 that peppered Jub-Jub's thirst Parlor on this Day of the Loud Fest coaxed them into an encore, for which they granted.. Good, solid set of fist pounding metal in the HoF vein from those guys... And the 'Beard didn't play too bad either if anyone is asking..lol! especially for being 8 months since our last show...

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 03:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Behold! The Monolith seem like really good people. And their album impressed me. Looking forward to seeing them live one day. Seems like they have aspirations to tour a fair amount.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 08:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

what you say seems true, Nate.. Just booked Hellbeard to open up for them here in Oakland in June..

SeanWayne, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Twitter is buzzing about Roadrunner firing a lot of people...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, Roadrunner UK has been shut down, and rumours are rampant that the same goes for Roadrunner Europe too.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Soon only Blabbermouth remains...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Decibel Magazine Tour: unbelievably amazing.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man, sucks about Roadrunner. Hope a certain poster's job is safe.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still have a job. Can't say much more than that for the moment.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

*couple of hours later*

"The rebranding of Roadrunner as 誤訳侮辱 Records is now complete. We look forward to your money."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

man you guys reaaaaaly need to this wizard rifle album, ive been playing it nonstop since the show. track 3 is such a lumbering badass bruiser. great combo of GWA/lightningboltisms with sludge and O_O actual singing.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

need to hear this. is what that is supposed to say.

Rachel Profiling (jjjusten), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Roadrunner Canada is apparently down now as well.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"We need backup NOW, we've received a direct hit to the Nickelback! I repeat, a direct hit to the Nickelback!"

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Thursday, 26 April 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Big metal package at Rhapsody this week, if anybody cares -- including two new 1400+-word essays by me on the state of the art (one more positive than the other one, which takes off from a SXSW panel about metal "extremeness"), memories by Jeanne Fury and Mike McGuirk about growing up learning to love metal in Catholic all-girls and all-boys schools respectively, and Justin Farrar on the state of Southern metal:

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/04/metal-madness

xhuxk, Thursday, 26 April 2012 18:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sounds like there's been some culling at the US office as well – http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/industry/record-labels/layoffs-at-roadrunner-records-founder-ceo-1006893352.story

Meanwhile, I liked your first article, Chuck, but I guess I wasn't sure what the thesis of the extremity essay was, other than that bands will continually try to be extreme and it will always be stupid?

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nah, nothing that dogmatic -- I think it doesn't do much to make the music better. And it does seem off-base to me to claim, as some of those panelists kept doing, that it's the main point of metal, and the one direction that metal is always heading. (One guy even kept saying that metal constantly gets heavier, which I don't buy at all.) But honestly I'm not sure I even know when bands are trying to do it (I can't read minds), and there probably are records I love that were trying. But I don't think I had a thesis at all, really. Basically Rhapsody wanted me to write a couple metal pieces, and I saw that panel was going on, and it seemed like something that might be entertaining to riff on a little. Otherwise I really don't think about "extremeness" much at all these days -- seems somewhere between pointless and imaginary to me.

In other news, I'm pretty sure I like the new Bible Of The Devil album a lot, and the new (post-humous) Woods Of Ypres sounds good to me too. But I don't like the Torche, Pelican, or DragonForce albums much.

And that definitely is crappy news about Roadrunner.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2012 01:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't really like the new Paradise Lost -- which I had hopes for -- much, either.

xhuxk, Friday, 27 April 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's a fair point. Extremity for extremity's sake is pretty dumb. I kind of think extremity is to metal what the philosopher's Stone was to alchemy, though. It's silly and kind of pointless and probably doesn't exist (in the case of extremity, it does technically exist, but it implies an end, which is clearly a fallacy since metal bands keep making things more extreme), but the search for said thing has led to some pretty neat discoveries.

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 02:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, just learned that I'll get to see Eyehategod AND High On Fire this weekend. They're both playing Dark Lord Day at the Three Floyd's Brewery. SUPER stoked.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Drop out of life with bong in hand, follow the smoke to the riff-filled land…

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

From a recent press release:

Black God, the new Louisville-based blitz rock super-group featuring Rob Pennington (Endpoint, By The Grace Of God, Black Cross), Ryan Patterson (Coliseum, Black Cross), Nick Thieneman (Young Widows, Black Cross) and Ben Sears, have announced a string of East Coast US tour dates taking place next month, including two shows in New York on May 26th (one matinee show at the city's legendary ABC No Rio and another "somewhere in Brooklyn" taking place the same night), in support of their new EP "II" out now on No Idea Records.

Described as a cross between The Wipers and Fugazi's "In On The Kill Taker," as well as Drive Like Jehu, Rites of Spring, Killing Joke and others, Black God has also recently premiered their video for new song "Everyone's A Friend" currently streaming above.

http://vimeo.com/39151725

Band has dudes from bands I like playing music inspired by bands I like. Not a shock I see potential here...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 27 April 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

In other news, I caught Rammstein last night at Wells Fargo Arena, the basketball palace in Philly. I wondered what kind of crowd was taking the Ministry riff-and-repeat blueprint minus English and smack plus pyrotechnical ecstasy into a commercial realm that the likes of KMFDM never would come close to reaching. But it's just as well; as much as I enjoyed killing motherfucking Depeche Mode, I enjoyed watching these Germans kill the venue instead of merely play in it.

Seeing the show, I still don't know who is buying their records! The amount of industrial and Goth types were vastly underrepresented as were the metal contingency, though the latter at least was a sizable minority. (And they were old farts like me for the most part. One guy I ran into at the WAWA near my house was wearing a Sarcofago shirt!) The rest? It coulda been a Flyers game - middle aged dudes in polo shirts rocking out.

They had reason to. The band filled out the arena with explosions and smoke and melodrama and even some humor (singer Till Lindemann literally rode a giant penis that shot a faux load upon the hapless crowd during "Pussy). No shock that Kiss was an early inspration for them. They're exactly like Kiss updated with a dour ferocity befitting our times and mechanical precision befitting their homeland.

Rammstein seems to be written off as a gimmick in a lot of circles. I do not share that sentiment.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 27 April 2012 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Black God sounds too good to be true. Hopefully it's not just a too-clever publicist who knows how to evoke the coolest influences (and push my Pavlov slaver buttons), and they deliver! Will check it out.

Glad Chuck likes the new Bible of the Devil. I haven't heard it all yet, but am going to their record release show tomorrow night at Ultra Lounge with Superchrist.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seeing the show, I still don't know who is buying their records!

In America, the answer is "basically nobody." Their record sales were so low (and their insurance requirements so high) that they didn't tour the US for a solid decade. The only reason they're touring arenas right now is because of pent-up demand.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, I want to see the Rammstein tour badly. And that's a fun little recap, NYCNative.

Oh, and I'm hugely jealous of Jon, I was just reading about that potentially incredible brewery show yesterday.

A. Begrand, Friday, 27 April 2012 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Speaking of extreme, these guys aren't extreme at all, except for extremely great: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-leatherwolfs-leatherwolf-1987/

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Leatherwolf are great. The self-titled EP and followup LP are both a load of fun.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 April 2012 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, and I'm hugely jealous of Jon, I was just reading about that potentially incredible brewery show yesterday.

Yeah, I'm really thrilled. I've had tickets (this is really popular around here and usually sells out in seconds) since long before they announced the bands. I was already excited knowing Eyehategod was going to be there, but when they announced High On Fire the other day, I couldn't be more anxious for tomorrow to get here. Great music and craft beers all day? Yes please.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Today I am happy about the new Moonspell album, and that Nightwish and Kamelot are coming to Boston in September. If at least three of us from my company go, the company pays for it, so there's still time to interview for a job here and join me.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 27 April 2012 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Whoa, new Prong is pretty rad. Didn't know they still had it in them!

NWOBHamster (J3ff T.), Friday, 27 April 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was amazed, I pretty much lost interest in Prong in 1992. This is one solid album.

A. Begrand, Friday, 27 April 2012 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I forgot to mention, Prong were really good when I saw them last week with Witchburn and Crowbar. They sounded much like they did in 1988-90 when I was first into them, but a dirtier, less pristine sound.

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also forgot that Superchrist are also celebrating an album release at the show tomorrow. Chris Black, man. Dawnbringer, High Spirits, Pharaoh, Superchrist, at one point Nachtmystium. How does he sleep?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 27 April 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

caught inquisition last night. love these guys and they put on a great show... but I'm not sure they needed to play every song they've ever written

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Saturday, 28 April 2012 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

The latest joint endorsement from me and my 4yo daughter is Russian gothic/neo-trad band Dark Princess, who have apparently been around since 2004, but this is the first I've heard of them. Or maybe the potential of a metal band with "Princess" in the name just hadn't maximized itself in my life until now. The new album is called The World I've Lost, and falls somewhere between Christian Mistress and Xandria and old Warlock.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 30 April 2012 00:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, I only ended up being able to see High On Fire last night. The whole event was set up more for the distribution of the beer than for the music part, so I was in line for my Dark Lord Imperial Stout when Eyehategod played. High On Fire were pretty good, but it was a bit of a short set.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh dude, you were at dark lord day?

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 April 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yep, it was a blast.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah it sounds like a pretty incredible event. i was coincidentally chatting with a guy yesterday who went a couple years ago.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 April 2012 12:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

It really was fun, but like I said, the event is really all about the beer and the music is kinda "tacked on", so it sort of gets the short shrift of attention. I mean, the stage was set up in the brewery's warehouse and, even for High On Fire, there was never more than a couple hundred people out of the (figure I heard) 6000 that were in watching the bands play. I could waltz right in and to pretty much the front of the stage at will. Still sorta disappointed I had to miss Eyehategod to get my Dark Lord, but #firstworldproblem and all. I still had a blast.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 April 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

naw man thats kind of a huge bummer :/

albert rotman (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 30 April 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Here's my mostly metallic May concert list:

5/ 6 "Decibel Magazine Tour 2012" @ Trocadero
5/ 8 Lacuna Coil @ TLA
5/13 Esperanza Spaulding @ Electric Factory
5/23 Nasum / Brutal Truth @ The Barbary
5/26 Church Of Misery / Rwake / Gates Of Slumber @ North Star Bar

I was possibly going to see Santigold on the 8th and still might however the wife and I saw Santigold but she has never seen Lacuna Coil and tickets are like $20 cheaper.

If any Philly folks will be around, we should hang and drink and stuff. I cannot believe a Decibel tour date in Philly won't have some of you fuckers in attendance...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Church of Misery is sooo good live, I couldn't believe it.

Personally, my only metal shows in May are this weekend. Mares of Thrace/Untimely Demise on Friday, Opeth/Mastodon/Ghost Saturday. Well maybe Apocalyptica too later this month, if I can get a pass.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Re: Leatherwolf

While at an Exodus show in the late '80s at The Bayou in Washington DC, the guys from Leatherwolf were in attendance, hanging out to see the show. They were nice guys despite having to deal with idiot teenagers saying "I hate poser glam stuff... But your band seems cool... I mean, you're not that glam so you're not a poser... Um, are you a poser?" Etcetera.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

From http://www.metalinsider.net/metal-by-numbers/:

War Of Ages, Return to Life (Facedown) #130, 2,860 sold
Who knows, maybe their performance at this Summer’s SoulFest will attract a new audience for them?

Torche, Harmonicraft (Volcom) #141, 2,630 sold
The sludge rock group’s first album via Volcom has a strong first week, debuting in the top 200. While Torche should be pleased, guitarist Andrew Elstner is probably just happy that he doesn’t have rabies.

Prong, Carved Into Stone (Long Branch) 1,650 sold
A strong first week for Tommy Victor and co., who sell roughly two hundred copies more than their last album, 2007’s Power Of The Damager (which sold roughly 1,400 in its first week).

Anathema, Weather Systems (The End) 1,290 sold
After a seven year wait between 2003′s A Natural Disaster and 2010′s We’re Here Because We’re Here, it’s safe to say that fans are grateful that the English post-prog rock group didn’t make them wait as long for a new album.

Paradise Lost, Tragic Idol (Century Media) 900 sold
A solid first week for the British goth metal group. Looks like everyone agrees that drummer Adrian Erlandsson (ex- At the Gates/ The Haunted/ Cradle of Filth) was a great addition to the band.

Meanwhile, Jack Black's Blunderbuss sold 138,000.

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

i read that as Edmondson

Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think that Church of Misery and Sleep are playing within a week of each other in SF just a few days before I'm supposed to be on a plane for Alaska. No way I'm gonna make it. If I had to pick one, it'd be Church of Misery. Just heard their stuff via last year's Hellfest set and was knocked out. Pity, since they're probably not coming back to the states anytime real soon.

Matt M., Thursday, 3 May 2012 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

But Oxbow and Kowloon Walled City are on that Sleep bill..

SeanWayne, Friday, 4 May 2012 07:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hi all, a rare appearance from me. How much do you guys rate that Azareth album that crept into the 2011 metal countdown? I've been caning this wonderful bit of blackened death metal and I love it.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 4 May 2012 09:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

wish i could find a link to a youtube or something but a ladino album i'm reviewing has a track called 'la comida la manana' (it's a traditional sephardic song) that is done in gothic female vox folk metal style. it's kinda excellent.

Mordy, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked that Azareth album well enough. Not a favorite, but I've pulled it out more often than I expected I would. Right now I've been spending lots of time with High Spirits (found thier demos disc at Reckless last week), Occultation, Horisont, and Woods of Ypres. Also picked up a couple Deep Purple live albums for cheap.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

That Occultation is SO GOOD.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes it is, fantastic.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Horisont

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

also fantastic

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Horisont

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Horisont?

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

the summoning works!

EZ Snappin, Friday, 4 May 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Horisont rules. You got that at Reckless?

Fastnbulbous, Friday, 4 May 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

No, FYE actually! I've walked in that place five times and walked out with something in my hand twice. Once was last week with Horisont and then again today when I just picked up four dirt cheap used BOC albums.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

which BOC albums?

the endless white snow has never felt more textile (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Agents of Fortune (remaster with bonus tracks)
Spectres (the first CD issue, not the remaster, but it was $3)
Some Enchanted Evening (first CD issue)
Workshop of the Telescopes (a 2-disc comp from the mid 90s, i was unfamiliar with this but the tracklist was awesome)

all for $17 total!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

How much do you guys rate that Azareth album that crept into the 2011 metal countdown?

very highly, I had that record at #4 I think. Better than Behemoth, incredible drummer, very very good vocals too. You dont hear many records this all-out aggressive and genuinly pissed off sounding.

Siegbran, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Workshop of the Telescopes is, indeed, an awesome BOC comp. For many years it was all I owned by them.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I actually wore out my copy of Workshops.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

BE
HE
MOTH
(Is what people were chanting a lot at the decibel tour)

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Workshop of the Telescopes is, indeed, an awesome BOC comp. For many years it was all I owned by them.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I needed a comp since I'm about 1/2 way through getting their albums one by one, but that tracklist was just so o_O that I couldn't pass that up.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's enough unreleased stuff and alternate takes and selections from albums that are really not worth getting in their entirety to make it worthwhile.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, thats kinda what I figured when I was looking at it.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok, i didn't know at first but now i'm 100% on board with this new black breath

i guess as long as there's one metallified hardcore album a year i'm happy.

j., Tuesday, 8 May 2012 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha, Lemming Project! Cool. Always found the lyrics to "Washed" amusing. Not a lot of metal bands attacking personal hygiene (lyrically, at least) as another kind of conformity.

wan brujo (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 12 May 2012 03:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeesh, yet another excellent female-fronted metal band I hadn't heard of before: Shear. Finnish, fast, slightly gothic and slightly progressive. EM says Power Metal, I guess because of the shredding and sometimes florid keyboards, but I listened to Dragonforce earlier today, and by that standard of Power Metal, this is something far more traditionally heavy. They could easily share a bill with Ulnleash the Archers and Triosphere.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 12 May 2012 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I talk about them in the latest issue of Decibel. Big, big fan of the keyboard melody in "The Awaking," but the subsequent tracks don't quite live up to it.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Saturday, 12 May 2012 03:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Shear reminds me of Saraya. In a mildly complimentary sort of way.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 12 May 2012 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, duh, I should have mentioned that Jeff's thing in Decibel is where I encountered Shear. Totally disagree about the rest of the album not "living up" to the first track. "Scorched" is my favorite, but I think the whole album is really strong.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

About to announce full US Agalloch tour. This is the most extensive North American run and longest tour of their career.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Very cool. Would love to see them again so I hope they head south.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh boy!!

former personal denim advisor to the mayor, (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Okay, I don't know much about Semargl, but the combination of cover art (see below), title (Satanic Pop Metal), and the descriptions on RYM are really making me morbidly curious about their new album.

Some RYM user reviews:

Hilarious album. Black metal took....a different path.

Well, if a band ever wanted to piss off the purist, evil kvlt black metal kids, they're doing an amazing job, considering the hate I've seen for this, haha.

If you ever wanted to hear a Behemoth and Ke$ha collab album, this is the closest you're gonna get.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok, whoa, sorry about the hueg cover art!

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 18:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just a reminder that Jeff Loomis' Plains Of Oblivion is fucking amazing. The two songs with Christine Rhoades make me want them to do a whole album together. They also make me want to shred while standing powerfully upon a small meteor flying through the galaxy.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, those two songs are superb, sad she didn't sing on the entire album. But those instrumentals are mighty good, too.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

No doubt. One of the highlights of 2012, start to finish. Loomis is incredibly lyrical and melodic for a shredder of his caliber.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I still need to track down that Loomis album.

Big year for metal dudes getting into jazz fusion, and I'm enjoying that. First was the surprisingly good TRAM album (dudes from Animals as Leaders, Suicidal Tendencies, and Mars Volta) and now we've got Trioscapes, which features Dan Briggs from Between the Buried and Me. I've only heard their Mahavishnu Orchestra cover thus far, but if the rest of the album holds up as well I think it'll be pretty fun.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jesus but the new Baroness has got some really bad songs on it.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

And in other news:

Jesus but the new Baroness has got some really good songs on it.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's like Baroness made an EP of some of the best stuff they've ever done and decided to stretch it out to album length at the last minute with power ballads and Decemberists cover versions.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oof. I hope you heard the fake press release version.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Adrien said on twitter that one of the songs reminded him of Weezer, so I'm guessing Doran got the same version.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah I saw that tweet too, which is why I was hoping I could wish this "fake press release version" into existence. This had been one of my most anticipated albums of the summer.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i preordered the fancy book vinyl so it better be good.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

The new songs were super boring live, although that might have more to do with them just not really fitting on metal bills anymore.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

or they were boring songs?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like, they sounded like they might be good sitting in my apartment and chilling out to them, but not sandwiched between Decapitated and Meshuggah.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, I am sure that this new Ulver album consisting of covers of 60s psychedelic rock songs will be of no interest whatsoever to people on ILM…

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

The new Baroness is crazy good. Sure, maybe a couple toss-offs, but it's a double album, those things happen.

Ulver was absolutely baffling doing the '60s covers at Roadburn. It sounded phenomenal, but it was surreal seeing Garm doing the maraca thing. It was missing that slow-burning mystique that Ulver usually brings, especially on their last three albums.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've been asked to book some shows for Sledge Leather. It's Leather Leone (ex-Chastain) and her original Rude Girl partner Sandy Sledge. Accompanying them are Scott Warren and Jimmy Bain from the Dio band.

The question is, will anyone want to see this group? I think the tunes sound good... but I'm always shy about "historical merit."

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

What's interesting to me is that the new Baroness is only 75 minutes long; it could have fit on a single CD, but they seem to have split it in half so the listener would think about the two sets of songs as being separate. I've only listened to it a couple of times so far, but the first single is seriously the best song they've ever done, and even the weird shit on the second disc (where I think they're using a drum machine) works for me. Definite Album of the Year contender.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will give anything a chance, but I have yet to hear a single Baroness song that I enjoyed.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

The new Baroness single is the first music of theirs that I enjoyed.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

As for Sledge Leather, as far as trad metal goes, this is really quite amazing.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is their a show circuit for legacy metal? I haven't seen many (any?) listings for such shows in Dallas except for the glam guys.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

wrong their there. I need an editor.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seems like these shows invariably are either big and expensive (ie MSG + Anvil), or sad and under-attended (ie Diamondhead / Iron Butterfly)

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Helps if you had hits. Helps more if you have all the right members in the band still living/performing.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

sS there any chance of sending them out with a younger/bigger band who cites them as favorites/influence? That would likely be the best chance to succeed.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Honestly, I've never heard of these guys, so I'm not really sure what the potential audience would be. Unless it's a buzz band like Pentagram, I don't know how well these shows are liable to do – the Sanctuary show I went to was pathetically attended, but on the other hand, the Doro show did fairly well at the Whiskey. Of course, Doro has been active this entire time and she's always been more of a name.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 01:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

That said, my research into them has given me some ideas for potential new Lazarus Pits, so cheers for that!

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's like Baroness made an EP of some of the best stuff they've ever done and decided to stretch it out to album length at the last minute with power ballads and Decemberists cover versions.

wait did they seriously cover the fucking Decemberists

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

98% sure that was a joke, but its that other 2% that is going to keep me up tonight.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Looking at the tracklist and half of them could be Decembrists song titles:

1 Yellow Theme
2 Take My Bones Away
3 March to the Sea
4 Little Things
5 Twinkler
6 Cocainium
7 Back Where I Belong
8 Sea Lungs
9 Eula

Disc 2:

1 Green Theme
2 Board Up the House
3 Mtns. (The Crown & Anchor)
4 Foolsong
5 Collapse
6 Psalms Alive
7 Stretchmarker
8 The Line Between
9 If I Forget Thee, Lowcountry

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eh, as a recovering fan of the first couple Decemberists albums, really only the last one does.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Look at their more recent work and you'll get a shiver.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I heard the last one that was like an Americana album that rips off Gin Blossoms and R.E.M. and I still can't shake it.

Anyway, glad to hear some of you are actually liking the Baroness record. Doran had me scared.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 03:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

morbid saint reissue is fucking stellar. something about that historical thrash energy for me

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 06:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is this a new reissue? I mean, after the 2008 one? Love that record.

booth traums (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 08:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

j0hn I particularly think you should track down this Sledge Leather Project record Imagine Me Alive. It's classic 80s trad metal energy and enthusiasm played by total veterans, with heart, chops, and inspiration.

Fans of Judas Priest's Angel of Retribution, the self-titled Candlemass, and Heaven and Hell's The Devil You know should take note.

Chuck, that means you too, right?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

same record being reissued on vinyl. I'll look out for Sledge Leather Project - anything w/"Project" gets the nod from me, love that

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

did you guys see the cover of the ulver covers album?

http://www.kscopemusic.com/ulver/childhoodsend/

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man! Had not seen that.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like the video and their version of this song

scott seward, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU SHOULD BE FUCKING SCARED! YOU SHOULD BE SHITTING YOUR FUCKING LEMON SCENTED PANTIES! THE DECEMBERISTS COVERS AREN'T THE WORST SONGS ON IT! WAIT TIL YOU HEAR THE TWO 'WINDS OF CHANGE'/I HAD SUCH A GREAT TIME WHEN I WAS A KID AND THINGS WERE SIMPLER POWER BALLADS!

RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I should restate at this point, it does also contain some of their best songs to date as well. And there's a song that's going for some kind of OK Computer/Dark Side Of The Moon hybrid which is really cool.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

But you need to take this shit over to the Rolling Atmospheric Adult Orientated Indie Thread - it ain't metal no more.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, they need to not be booked on metal tours anymore. Black Mountain would probably be the heaviest band I would send them out with at this point.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

But you need to take this shit over to the Rolling Atmospheric Adult Orientated Indie Thread

ouch

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 18:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Speaking of heavy bands getting all wussy...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/13621-aurelia/

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man, new Gojira sounds like Arcade Fire or something, what the hell happened?

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I gotta say I'm not encouraged in the least about the state of metal in the summer of 2012 when I keep seeing bands like "The Decemberists" and "Arcade Fire" pop up in reference.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Someone's going to pop up here soon saying that Viking Skull have suddenly discovered Los Campensinos!

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

was initially weirded out by the mellow, fleet foxes inspired interludes on the new gorguts album but I've really come around to them

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've often thought that Morrissey and Vikernes would get on like a church on fire.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm just gonna quietly blame the liturgy manifesto for all of this

game of crones (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Trolling aside, new Gojira is pretty stunning – they've applied melody to their sound in all the right ways, giving the songs the dynamics they need to really stand out from each other.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Are there any trumpet solos?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

No. There are a couple trombone solos, though.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

How many times do they do the Gojira Pick Slide®™?

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

All of the times.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, it still sounds like them, with all their sonic hallmarks, but it's a comfortable evolution.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I gotta say I'm not encouraged in the least about the state of metal in the summer of 2012 when I keep seeing bands like "The Decemberists" and "Arcade Fire" pop up in reference.

lol some of us have been tilting our lance at this windmill for six or seven years and getting called "purists" about it. If you don't demand a certain degree of engagement with the actual genre sooner or later you end up with this weak stuff splooging on in

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rolling Atmospheric Adult Orientated Indie Thread

?

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Here's my question: When the fuck were Baroness ever a metal band? They were beloved of metal fans, but as far as I can tell they were doing heavy psych-rock on Red Album; their vocals were always more lumberjack than Cookie Monster. The closer their material got to metal (the early EPs), the more it sucked, frankly. The new album is glorious because it's them admitting who they are, finally. Now it's gonna be up to fans to admit who they've been listening to all this time.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like their covers a lot

Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

their album covers, that is. not their covers of jackson browne

Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol some of us have been tilting our lance at this windmill for six or seven years and getting called "purists" about it. If you don't demand a certain degree of engagement with the actual genre sooner or later you end up with this weak stuff splooging on in

Well, yeah, but I mean there's kind of a big jump from incorporating some post-rock elements to sounding like the fucking Decemberists.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

When the fuck were Baroness ever a metal band?

Well, that's a fair question but whether you like it or not for a lot of people they simply were. (And I'm not that aware of the 'Lumberjack' style of vocal but it sounds pretty metal to me.) And now they're not. It might not be the way you see it but this is essentially going to end up being the popular narrative of Baroness - especially from the point of view of metalheads who were into them.

Also, I don't think Baroness have finally had the nerve to admit who they really are, they strike me as a band who will keep on evolving.

On top of this, I'm not entirely sure that everyone is going to see Green/Yellow as their defining statement over Red.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

the eps are still the best stuff they ever made

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

the eps are still the best stuff they ever made

People like you are everything that's wrong with metal.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Because of his viewpoint or because he repeats that exact statement whenever we talk about Baroness on here?

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Because I mean, his preference is his preference whether we agree with it or not, but I can certainly understand getting annoyed by a broken (blue) record.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just sick of the whole "the first album/demo/first show/rehearsal only I was at was their best work" thing.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm being semi-facetious, but it really is something that bugs the shit out of me - the implied refusal to allow bands to evolve or grow.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

their work has really never been as good since i knew the drummer in junior high and he'd bang on the table with spoons and i'd bark out the cafeteria menu. i mean, the new stuff is okay but too mainstream.

Mordy, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

best baroness youtube comment:


During the first 6 seconds I already grew 8 beards.

LionsToTheChristians 1 day ago

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm reminded of a heavier Iron and Wine for some reason which is fine because I fucking love them too

ElJefe437 11 hours ago

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Just sick of the whole "the first album/demo/first show/rehearsal only I was at was their best work" thing.

I resemble this remark. Though I do enjoy actual evolution. De-evolution tends to be the rule with most bands.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

DEVILUTION

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just sick of the whole "the first album/demo/first show/rehearsal only I was at was their best work" thing.

if you are sick of this you hate metal lol

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

If you're sick of bitching about metal, you're sick of life.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

If you're sick of life, you like black metal

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do think actually in metal it's not the case that people are as irritatingly "early stuff better" as they're reputed to be. If you browse Metal Archives, you find people writing impassioned defenses of late Mercyful Fate records, Paradise Lost gets a fair shake from the aggregate rating every time right down to the most recent one, inter alios, and I don't think this is just because fans are writing the reviews - it's fans who're supposed to be the ones stanning hardest for early stuff, right? It's just that there's also bands like Katatonia, who completely lose sight of their vision, and metal dudes I think get more aggro about that when they think there was a really good & original band who started to suck

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

metal fans will buy anything basically. in multiple formats. forever.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, in a good way.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

What bothers me about metal fans, and was a huge stumbling block for me when I made my first attempts to really invest time in it, is that a lot of fans I'd run into would sneer at newcomers without a handle on the "classic era" or w/e. I mean, I would have loved to have been on the tape-trading circuit in 1988 and been able to follow the gestating Florida death scene or w/e, but I was stuck in the middle of Central Illinois where metal lived and died in two camps that broke down to basically Van Halen or Metallica and you were fortunate if you ran into someone who might've known about the existence of, say, Cannibal Corpse. With no record stores that gave a shit about metal and nowhere to discover it, I missed out on some key developments. So when I tried to really get into it again when I was finally in college and surrounded by smart metal fans, I was disappointed to constantly run into people that gave me shit and wouldn't take me seriously for not being intimately familiar with Obituary's demos.

Anyway, I like that the internet finally caught up to where I could experience all that stuff and hear all of it (sadly divorced of time and context), figuring out my tastes and understanding how the genres evolved. But I think the internet has also forced these tr00 fans to find new ways to sneer at their "inferiors" since they can no longer just say "lol oh you've never heard the Mantas demos" to feel superior, since any jack with an internet connection could find them in minutes. I feel like now those type of fans that just NEED to be snotty about their tastes cling to their "first album was better" as some sort of way to justify that they've been REAL fans for LONGER.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

And obviously there are tons of bands where their first shit really WAS better, but I think you can clearly see on RYM or Metal Archives or wherever when someone is just using that argument to be all challopsy. I don't ever feel that from the ILM metal crew and thats a huge part of why I feel comfortable talking about metal here, even when I feel infinitely less knowledgeable than some of you super smart dudes that have been around the scene forever.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I do agree with Phil, I've been arguing with "first album is better" metal fans for a good 25 years now. There are loads of people who don't think that way of course, but the ones who still do sure as hell are vociferous about it. As metalheads we tend to romanticize, often overly so, those first impressions bands left on us, I think that's a big reason behind it. I still catch myself checking to see what "old stuff" my favourite bands are playing on tour.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've found myself saying "the first stuff was better/best" a lot. But I don't think its a rule, it just so happens to be so, regardless of genre.. Being tired of the argument I think has more to do with bands getting tired and putting out shitty music than it does fans holding on to nostalgia and the good old days. A lot of people like a band at its rawest and purest and most pissed off, and thats usually the first record. But sometimes that rawness is too raw, and undeveloped un focused.. (the 1st Sepultura comes to mind) It goes back to that 'you've had your whole life to do your first record, and you've had only a year and a half to do your second'...

SeanWayne, Thursday, 17 May 2012 03:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

but it really is something that bugs the shit out of me - the implied refusal to allow bands to evolve or grow.

i think you got the wrong person there.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

People like you are everything that's wrong with metal.

lol

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

how dare I have an opinion!

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I only listen to the 1st song on the 1st demo

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 17 May 2012 05:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

A lot of
people like a band at its rawest and purest and most pissed off, and thats usually
the first record. But sometimes that rawness is too raw, and undeveloped un
focused.. (the 1st Sepultura comes to mind)

this sums it up quite nicely. esp bc i have always thought that the 1st sepultura was a weak record.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 17 May 2012 05:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

baroness song on their website is v. "....."

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

bands really need to stop cleaning up their vocals because i don't want to know what dumb shit you are singing about

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

how come bands never start off as blustery indie-rock affairs and end up doing sludgy hardcore stuff a few albums later? always the other way

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

The "first album is the best" phenomenon is a form of survivorship bias. Thousands of bands make shitty demos/debuts, never get to make a second.

Siegbran, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

baroness song on their website is v. "....."

holy shit, you weren't kidding

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Reports are that "Take My Bones Away" is the heaviest thing on the record. I also think it's the best thing they've ever done, but I'm a well known hater.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Which website is that? Cause http://www.baroness.com gave me an unexpected result.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol well not entirely unexpected

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

baronessmusic is what you want

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Has anybody else preordered this record? I preordered the CD version and the green T-shirt.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

You guys I bought the Jeff Loomis record today because of all your enthusing, mye ars are expecting to be shredded.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

i already said i pre-ordered the vinyl
xp

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Three seems to be the magic number for my favorite metal albums for Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Kreator and Megadeth. Album #2 for Napalm Death, Slough Feg, High On Fire and Mercyful Fate. For Mastodon, Gojira and Hammers of Misfortune I've got #4, Black Sabbath and Neurosis #5, Entombed and Scorpions #6, Opeth #8. Hopefully Baroness' #3 (not counting EPs) will be my favorite.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Entombed?

Siegbran, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't even think what the hell the 6th entombed album would even be. uprising is the only later entombed i still listen to. and i mostly just listen to it for the first song. unsane rubbed off on them on that album. unsane and motorhead. which is fine by me.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hellz yeah, Entombed - Uprising. Great album.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

siegbran doesn't even want to KNOW about entombed after clandestine. this much i know. i've known this for years, actually.

scott seward, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uprising is super awesome rad. MOTORDEATH

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maryland Deathfest in one week. Anyone else going?

DLee, Friday, 18 May 2012 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'll be there. And at the YOB show in NYC on 5/23. Then I'm home for three days before Scion Rock fest and WM tour. Phew!

Nate Carson, Friday, 18 May 2012 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

got my new decibel with a rave witch mountain review in it. and a picture suitable for framing.

scott seward, Saturday, 19 May 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nice! Will have to check that out. I need to get a subscription...

Nate Carson, Sunday, 20 May 2012 03:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Saw Narrows, Retox and Early Graves last night.. the sound sucked-ass for EG and Retox, but the drummer for EG, who is a soundman in his own right, totally fixed the sound for Narrows, and they destroyed SF.. EG was great despite the shitty sound and Retox was, egh..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh rad i fuckin love narrows

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah... it wasn't packed, like not enough to have that big piece of man meat singer trying to stage dive, but he did it anyway...lol! got the sleepy Sunday crowd going for their set for sure..

It made me realize though... the bands that have that strong root in Hradcore, no matter how far they stray from it, always know how to wake a crowd up and put on a good show, without being pretentious in anyway.. that shit was real, raw, and heart felt.

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

= danish hardcore??

j., Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

I really like the song Greenland off the last Narrows album. It's like the country, all weird, fucked up and shit.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 05:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

The new Grand Magus is really good; hits that sweet spot between classic Judas Priest and Amon Amarth.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also excellent: the new Dawnbringer. I find Profound Lore's catalog way more miss than hit, but this one's a killer.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

May metal roundup: 10 mini-reviews by me, 5 by other folks (and I feel like I'm slipping behind in my listening again):

http://www.rhapsody.com/blog/2012/05/metal

xhuxk, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Grand Magus and Dawnbringer albums are outstanding. Hooky, powerful stuff. A bit silly how the Dawnbringer is a concept album yet no lyrics are included!

And Chuck, that Halestorm album is growing on me.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, and Crazy Lixx is great fun.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh man, that Grand Magus record is killer – made me happy I just got a new car with USB capabilities so I can rock out to it while driving.

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

This guitar:

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tomorrow: Nasum and Brutal Truth in Philly.
My face: Grinded.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 22:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I knew it was a good idea to start reducing my antidepressants at the start of the year. I'm actually getting really excited about the Slayer day of IBYM in London now.

Is anyone going?

Seeing Yob for the first time and the Melvins should be amazing if the new album's anything to go by.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wish I was going this weekend but will content myself with Harvey Milk tonight instead.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rockin'. They're usually ace. Seeing them on Saturday.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, this Grand Magus album is solid, in the solidest sense of solidity. Metal in the oldest, grandest, Steppenwolf-and-Deep-Purple-invented-this tradition.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Starlight Slaughter" totally sounds like Down to Earth era Rainbow.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

That song has been stuck in my head. I love catchy songs about werewolves!

Hellhamster 2: Hamster Smashed Face (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Awesome show all round. A Norwegian (?) sludge band playing their second ever show were a blinding start, then Hey Colossus (who I have always managed to miss until now) totally knocked me out.

Harvey Milk completely brought it though, with a sludge doom first half culminating in Anvil Will Fall, then an unexpected Shame ushering in a totally rocking second half. We also got an encore of Lay My Head Down in defiance of the curfew which you might not get at the weekend. Creston's voice is in seriously bad shape though, so I wouldn't actually like to predict just what you'll get at the weekend.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hey Colossus are awesome. How was the drumming? They've recently picked up Tim Cedar - frontman of Part Chimp - on sticks.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Haha, I was pretty sure it was him but thought it too odd a change to be right. Drumming was great, he hits hard and the second last track had some really strange tempo changes and stop-starts that seemed to suit his style well.

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Thursday, 24 May 2012 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doran: I'm going to the Slayer IBYM show. I'm particularly looking forward to seeing Sleep.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 08:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do you guys think of the Scion support of heavy music? Is it a bullshit way for some corp to get their name into the minds of unsuspecting folks or is it just a cool thing for metal in general, good bands, getting good money to do good free shows..

I've had some lengthy discussions both online and in person with a lot of folks, what does ILM think?
Are they supporting heavy music, or are they trying desperately to infiltrate the underground to sell cars?

SeanWayne, Thursday, 24 May 2012 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

and on a related note.. Enabler has the drummer from Fall Out Boy playing drums for them... does this ruin street cred, or does it even fucking matter?

SeanWayne, Thursday, 24 May 2012 08:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was at HM last night and thought it was great - Creston's voice didn't strike me as being notably shot, haven't listened to em for a long ass time tbh so maybe it just sounded like old man blues croak. love their idea of a 'party' set for the second half

Hey C were great when they were in a groove, less so when trying to find it (and when the sound levels were all rong) but fukkit I love them. first band are called Hark, are not Norwegian, and have the singer from Taint in if you know them

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 10:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

will be at IBYM on Friday only, daresay I'll see you there JD

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 10:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

only loosely au fait with Enabler but the drummer came up through 90s bands like Racetraitor iirc? always understood that to be where most of FoB started out, bands-wise

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Here's a playlist I made for Friday's Slayer IBYM day: http://open.spotify.com/user/nstewart/playlist/0XZY0e6TxsxMxKe8YOCJFj

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Great stuff, hopefully see you both there. I'm so excited I'm going to go down when it opens and watch half of Storm Of Light and half of They Live. Thanks for the spotify. As soon as my boy wakes up from his nap I'm going to stick that on. (Or if his naps goes on to long perhaps I'll put it on before he wakes up.)

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

NP. I've just added some WITTR for the sake of completeness. Will keep an eye out tomorrow!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 11:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do you guys think of the Scion support of heavy music? Is it a bullshit way for some corp to get their name into the minds of unsuspecting folks or is it just a cool thing for metal in general, good bands, getting good money to do good free shows..

I've had some lengthy discussions both online and in person with a lot of folks, what does ILM think?
Are they supporting heavy music, or are they trying desperately to infiltrate the underground to sell cars?

The fact that you have had "lengthy discussions" on this subject makes me very, very sad. "The underground" is not a real thing that exists, and if it did, it would not exactly be a major source of purchasing power. Also, the idea of "unsuspecting folks" being stealth-marketed to by corporations is a bad joke. It's 2012; no one is "unsuspecting" if they're past the age of, say, five. I think there's been sufficient testimony regarding artistic non-interference from the actual musicians involved that the "metal community" can happily accept the free music and, if the sight of a Scion logo offends you, put your hands over your eyes as you listen.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm actually getting really excited about the Slayer day of IBYM in London now.

Is anyone going?

Yep, just the Friday.

The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I liked it when Scion emailed me a free Omar-S EP the other week

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have no problem with scionfest as its got good bands but

"The underground" is not a real thing that exists
fuck off. Just because you dont have a clue doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There's thousands of DIY labels out there. Take your inverse snobbery and shove it up your roadrunner shilling arse.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

at the risk of stunting the growth of another amusing ILM beef, I suspect you've misinterpreted what he was getting at there

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

ie my reading was that it wasn't a tangible and rigidly definable thing, so strictly speaking couldn't be 'infiltrated'

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

well in which case apologies but he does have a record of slagging off underground metal bands/labels/fans(and me the other day). i know several people who work really hard doing their own labels or distros, not for much if any profit, but for love of music and they fund it out of their own pockets. They dont have pr men or advertise in metal magazines so therefore dont make EOY album lists like the bigger labels (indie or major) can.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Today in Glasgow I bought a couple of Trouble live lps and the paul chain ep. All on HRR. Also got the 1st Argus and The Devil's Blood cds 2nd hand. They had loads of other lps i wanted like the 1st In Solitude album but couldnt afford it. Sadly they didn't have the Torche lp either.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Here's why and how I can argue that "'the underground' is not a real thing that exists":

I am 40 years old. I have been actively involved with unpopular music (going to shows, buying records, reviewing bands for tiny fly-by-night zines) since roughly 1985 (the writing part started in 1996). Many's the time I have considered starting a label of my own - though in my case it would be a jazz label, so I'd really be throwing money down a hole. In all that time, I have never encountered a musician who wanted to be less well known than they were, or have fewer people hearing their work. The problem was never one of "selling out" - it was one of getting someone, anyone, to pay any attention at all.

The whole idea of "selling out" exists only in the minds of insecure and overzealous fans (many of whom are also writers, unfortunately, which is how this absurd idea maintains currency) who don't want people they don't personally know (or, at the very least, people who seem cool, thus making the insecure and overzealous fan feel cool by association) listening to their favorite bands. Bands want to be heard, and art requires patrons. For a while it was the Catholic Church or various rich fuckers who were paying the bills, and now it's corporations. DIY is great, but 99 percent of DIY metal artists and labels would happily take a bag of money if it would help get their music to more people. (I specify metal because there's always the counterexample of the noise scene, which is willfully obscurantist because it's basically a cranky, reactionary, fuck-you-Dad gesture against the larger society. Which is fine. Pat them on the head and leave them alone.) The only time an artist "sells out" is when they do something they would not otherwise do, solely for the money. I have not yet seen a Scion-sponsored artist write a song about Scion cars.

And, to reiterate, when you're saying "the underground" you're talking about under-capitalized, lower-tier artists with little or no public profile. These are not people with a lot of money. They probably can't afford to buy a new car. So why would it make sense for a car company to market to them and/or their fans? I don't have an answer to why Scion supports metal. But I think the bands are finding the situation advantageous, so good for them.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't have an answer to why Scion supports metal.

i am truly amazed that they are still at this, it's been several years now

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't really know shit about cars or how much a new Scion costs but at this point I suspect the people watching most of the sort of bands that play Scion events make more at their job than the bands do

cissémanwhore (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

music writers like yourself? ;)

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

music writers like yourself? ;)

Yeah, except even when I was 24 and getting my first pieces published, I never believed in the idea of "selling out" or used that phrase in my work.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

In all that time, I have never encountered a musician who wanted to be less well known than they were, or have fewer people hearing their work. The problem was never one of "selling out" - it was one of getting someone, anyone, to pay any attention at all.

well there are always tru kvlt black metal dudes

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

those guys are similar in FU attitude to the noise bands, I suppose.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, but that's the equivalent of a small child yelling "Don't look at me!" at the top of its lungs. It has the opposite effect.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

as a dude that works in a different end of the music industry tho, yeah, i agree with your sentiment 100% (abt the wanting to be known aspect)

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

The whole idea of "selling out" exists only in the minds of insecure and overzealous fans (many of whom are also writers, unfortunately, which is how this absurd idea maintains currency) who don't want people they don't personally know (or, at the very least, people who seem cool, thus making the insecure and overzealous fan feel cool by association) listening to their favorite bands.

this is a falsehood. it is true that most bands would like to be more heard. testimony, I got an offer for a hotel ad a couple years ago, they were just using an instrumental part of a really good aerosmith song. the song's important to some people, doesn't really have anything to do with getting a good night's sleep at a hotel. in fact, what goes on in a hotel in this song would probably get you thrown out of the hotel. so I said "no," because it wouldn't have been right for the song, aesthetically, to be placed there, even though it would have expanded my audience and gotten me paid. taking the money & coming up w/some bullshit rationalization about it would have pretty much been dictionary-definition "selling out."

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

so the point is, it's actually possible to hope that people who'd enjoy what you do will hear it, and work hard to make that happen, without whoring yourself for money, which is what tethering your music to an unrelated product is, imo. the scion stuff is more interesting than that, because it really does seem to be helmed by dudes who give a shit about metal & are putting on good shows, which is important to the scene is ways that scene purity isn't. to then say "there's no underground/there's no scene" is patently absurd, though

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

the song's important to some people

question: if the song was a really obscure aerosmith song that nobody showed a particular fondness towards, would you have felt differently about letting them use it? like did the consideration lie in aerosmith's sense of integrity about how the music is used, or in trying to protect aerosmith fans who may have felt betrayed to hear it in that context?

Mordy, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

smithy otm

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

if the song was a really obscure aerosmith song that nobody showed a particular fondness towards, would you have felt differently about letting them use it?

idk I generally err on the side of "if you have any doubt, say no" - context is important, content is important, it's not the audience's fondness as much as the particular strain of fondness (if it's a song people like 'cause it's got a good beat & a nice hook that's different from "this song meant a lot to my family in a difficult time"), you just have to follow your gut on these things & if your gut tells you "this feels like I'd be selling something I can't get back for money" then you are in fact selling out imo & that's to be avoided generally

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

but don't get me wrong if somebody's got a million bucks for "Bright Light Fright" I'm all fucking ears, there's bills to pay around here

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I actually got to your specific objection four sentences later, aero.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's true you did but that first sentence is pretty sweeping & rong imo

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, I would submit that the actual type of selling out you describe, and which I also agree is a Bad Thing, is also pretty vanishingly rare - I mean, how many examples can we actually cite? The Beatles song "Revolution" in a Nike ad? The Clash song (was it "London Calling"?) in a UK jeans ad? And maybe this is where we differ, possibly because I am not myself a songwriter, but I don't really think of licensing a song for a commercial (or a movie trailer, or whatever else) as being in any way out of bounds. It's never bothered me to hear a song I recognized in a commercial. It's never caused me to think more favorably of the product in question, either.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like, in order to be truly egregiously whorin' it up, for me, the artist would have to change the song to make it more friendly to the product in question. Like when Devo made "Whip It" about Swiffers. Or Dee Snider singing about carpet cleaning services (a thing which actually happened on my TV this very morning). Those kinds of things are gross and unsettling. But licensing an existing song, in its existing form, to advertise a product to which you have no personal objection (i.e. not a political campaign or beer or whatever trips your personal trigger)? I say take the money. Buy yourself somethin' nice.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I just can't. have licensed (for low $, I should say, not enough to pay a month's rent) to a music-selling service where the ad was specifically about music & how people enjoy it, that seemed different - it was a sweet little thing that I liked, it fit. if record stores still did TV ads I'd sell the hell outta my stuff to Licorice Pizza for an ad. but who'll ever hear "Pink Moon" again and not think at some point of the VW ad? that's a disservice to a song that deserves better, I'm a romantic, the song is more important than me getting something nice, or that's true if the song's any good, anyway. if aerosmith sucked live & had trouble pulling a crowd I'd probably feel different but as it stands we kick ass and put in work and enjoy our work so I'm in a position of privilege here

cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

How about if you were asked to have a song on an ad for your fave beer? Its a beer you drink all the time, so you wouldn't be advertising something you dont actually use. Would you license a song then?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Totally fair, and I'm not gonna even try to convince you you're wrong. I, on the other hand, would take the Fay Weldon deal in a fucking heartbeat.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is probably as good a place as any to admit that while i am glad that laurie anderson is making $$$ every time o superman comes on my television while some dude uses a digital camera to shoot a skydiving fashion shoot a little part of me dies inside

I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, 24 May 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

because Some Dude took the photo?

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 24 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

(I specify metal because there's always the counterexample of the noise scene, which is willfully obscurantist because it's basically a cranky, reactionary, fuck-you-Dad gesture against the larger society. Which is fine. Pat them on the head and leave them alone.)

this is undoubtedly true for some noise folks but I think you're oversimplifying a bit too much here to make a larger point. which I suspect you realize - aren't fushitsusha one of your favorite bands? the aesthetic they're working is not cranky or reactionary in the least imo. more spiritual and tv spots really wold take something away from that. (tho a keiji haino doritos commercial would be pretty hilarious.)

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 24 May 2012 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

When I say noise I mean Wolf Eyes, Prurient etc. I don't actually think Haino considers himself a "noise" artist, and I've never understood why he gets called that. To me he's a psychedelic guitar hero on a par with Randy Holden and even Hendrix. And his non-guitar stuff isn't "noise" either - it's extremely spiritual, as you say. I make fun of metal bands for using the word "ritual" to describe their gigs, but I've seen Haino performances for which that term would apply 100%.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 24 May 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

So, I've actually done work for Scion AV, and spoken to the artists in question. From what I gather, a lot of them actually prefer Scion to record labels – they fly them around, book the shows, pay to put them in nice hotels, and in the case of the EP series, they foot the studio time and distribution and don't really expect anything in return other than getting to slap their logo on it. Nobody I've spoken to actually seems to know how this is supposed to equal profit, but from what I understand the executive behind the AV stuff is actually a genuine metal fan, and they get legit people to curate their events. I guess it's just a way to get the name out there (and, compared to the cost of putting together commercials and buying airtime, probably fairly cost-effective). And hell, I guess it works to an extent – when I was looking for a new car, I actually did look at Scions before I realized I couldn't actually fit into any of them. Yeah, it's corporate sponsorship. But weirdly, they've actually been doing a good enough job that at this point I would venture to say that they have earned some metal cred.

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

On the other hand, I guess I'm a sellout for working for them, so BOW BEFORE YOUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS.

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Thursday, 24 May 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah when you put it like that it seems pretty fuckin awesome for the bands

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

one of our journos needs to get an interview with the metal-loving scion exec

call all destroyer, Thursday, 24 May 2012 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

hah, would read.

would be cool if the scion detroit techno stuff is also happening because of this one exec.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 25 May 2012 06:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hey Neil S, I reposted your IBYM mix on The Quietus, I hope you don't mind. It's a while since I've listened to three Slayer albums before breakfast.

Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Friday, 25 May 2012 09:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Listened to the new Vitus coming into work this morning. I gotta confess, they're usually a band I admire more than actually listen to for pleasure, a few killer songs aside ("Born Too Late" etc.), but this record is really, really solid. I also like the fact that it's relatively short - under 40 minutes. Get in, hit hard, get out.

誤訳侮辱, Friday, 25 May 2012 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wrote this on the Vitus thread the other day:

Finally getting to hear the new record in preparation for seeing them Friday. First off, it sounds amazing. Clarity and heft, and though Wino is way up front as always it doesn't take away the power of the band behind as it does on some of the 80s records. However, there isn't a lot of meat on the bones. A short record, and not incredibly memorable despite being recorded so well. Maybe it'll grow a bit more over time, but I'm a few listens in and waiting for the earworm. I do expect the songs will work well live mixed in with the classic material.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 25 May 2012 13:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lazarus pit time again, female fronted metal but NOT girly metal: http://www.decibelmagazine.com/featured/the-lazarus-pit-fear-of-gods-within-the-veil/

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Does that just mean female cookie monster vox?

Mordy, Friday, 25 May 2012 19:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Why do I still buy physical media? Because I bet your iTunes download of Lillie:F-65 didn't come with a fuckin' Saint Vitus beer coozy. That's why.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

It also comes with a beer coaster – the CD! BOOM. (I love physical media too, just couldn't resist the joke)

xp If you read the article, Mordy, it will tell you what you want to know. Plus there's a convenient video embedded so you can actually listen to one of their songs!

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hey, I teed it up, someone had to send it home.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

If there is a terrible, obvious joke to be made, I will be the one to make it.

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 May 2012 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I got Saint Vitus branded rolling papers with my vinyl.

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

hah, like that cheech and chong lp

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha. But I'm much more likely to use a beer coozy before I'd be likely to use the rolling papers.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

What percentage of people who got the vinyl do you think will actually use the St. Vitus rolling papers?

The Devil's Panini Machine (J3ff T.), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am the only one who wont

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

87.4%

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Unless they keep it to sell on ebay

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 25 May 2012 20:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, obviously people who get the vinyl are into what you would put on those rolling papers, but it seems weird to me to have a branded consumable like that as a bonus. Li