Eazily I approach, the 100 GREATEST RAP (OR HIP HOP OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT) TRACKS OF THE GODS because I ain't no joke.

Tell yo momma to get off my tip, because here it is.

(tie w/ everything between 102 and 98) 100. Boogie Down Productions - The Bridge Is Over [5 votes, 125 points, 1986]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Sy4twXSn0

here we go.

I am pulling my pollmaster card with the 5 way tie, as 2 of the records are wack as hell and one of them isn't even hip-hop (rmde ilm) so it is starting at 100 and two of the tied records are just gonna have to rock my jock

im sure to get pissed off once or twice.

i've genuinely just checked the top 100 and LOL

great.

Good start! (i.e. I voted for "The Bridge Is Over")

#99 may have the best video of any record involved btw. or the one that puts the biggest smile on my mug anyway.

(tie w/ everything between 102 - 98) 99. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo [5 votes, 125 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcsEop0NPGM

This song makes me happy, don't know about the video (will check) Just the repetition of "shame on you when you step through to" seems glorious to me.

Well, I voted for the first, and Return in albums. Brooklyn Zoo has such a phenomenal video.

and how he says "crayyyzee" of course

And watch me put the loooooooooooooooooooooooow down.

so curious about the redacted records. dope start so far

albums poll was a nice prelude, but THIS is where it gets weird (& by 'weird' i mean intersting)

(tie w/ everything between 102-98) 98. Big L - Put It On [4 votes, 125 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBrzEVJwYFg

Mac Miller did it better imo.

Can you tell us the ones that didn't make it so those of us who voted for them can know we're wack as hell?

Y'know for future reference

(tie w/ #96) 97. Public Enemy - Night of the Living Baseheads [3 votes, 126 points, 1988]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyR09SP9qdA

Is that ODB one the same song as "Proteck Ya Neck II"? The oen with Shortie Shitstain on it? One of my all time favourite rap tracks.

lol i was p open about my feelings towards one of the artists in the albums poll - and the other, maybe isn't wack but just doesn't make sense and makes endtroducing look like a normal choice

a smooth kid that'll run up in your baby mother! woulda voted put it on if i thought it had any chance of making it on, sweet

Wonder how many different PE tracks will place. I could have voted for about a dozen but restricted myself to two.

HERE IT IS! BAM!! That fucking siren! Oh Boy I love this track.

PE - tune. Didn't vote for any in singles because I voted for four albums.

I love that Big L track.

haha i just listened to the mac miller put it on bcz of you, and will never forgive you

CHALLOPS

Baseheads is too low prob, but the PE votes are bound to be splintered all over the place.

this was the first PE track I ever heard - age 10 or ll. I really did not know what to make of it for a while, but the video was in constant rotation on Yo! MTV Raps for a looong time & the imagery made quite an impression, enough so that, when I heard Black Steel for the first time, I decided to take a chance on buying Nation of Millions, from the Columbia House tape club almost certainly, the first rap album I ever bought. Now Baseheads if prob #2 or #3 on the album for me.

(tie w/ #97) 96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_WfF6hf2E

YES!!! Great tune!

Hey, I'm surprised at how many of these are right up there for me so far, and I'm only a casual hiphop fan and didn't vote.

Song is so self-deprecating.

Great video!

never seen that amazing baseheads video before. fatlip's the first one i voted for

Spike Jonze directed that video.

95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmqauitBkM

damn spottie and his country music :S

:D

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

all great stuff so far

Nice.

Best track ever and stuff.

That's not rap!;)

man I really miss ODB

My number 1 vote was just enough to place it.

"damn spottie and his country music :S"

"That's not rap!;)"

youz guyz.

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WHY is this song sexy to me? Is that wrong?!! #confused
mshooks04 2 days ago
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damn

damn

damn
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@MrMixdin shit smoke and ride lol
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This is the shit to bang when u ridin through the hood at 2am...it shows u got ur pimp on...
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This what you smoke to
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hey spottie did you get my webmail? my gmail still ain't working

I think ODB was the first time when one of "my" artists died unexpectedly. Certainly I'd never been quite as shocked to hear about a musician's death before; suddenly I could understand how those Nirvana fan friends of mine had felt in 1994.

i couldn't decide whether to vote for SOD or ..Storytellin, so I went w/ an Atliens track & put Aquemini way up on my albums ballot.

aw it couldn't have been THAT surprising. I mean I was bummed about it and everything, but dude was not really taking care of himself

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yeah that was aaliyah for me.

Well yeah, it wasn't completely surprising, but it was still shocking.

(tie w/ #93) 94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjDdzWZxDwc

"hey spottie did you get my webmail? my gmail still ain't working"

Yah got it and repied back, I can do top 75 or 50, your call. Just get me the list tonight and I'll whip something up.

I mean, it wasn't the same as some jazz musician I dig dying at 82.

This list is seriously great so far.

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Love you t.i you look so sweet;)
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is t.i. in the crips or bloods?

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i loooove rubber band man! voted what you know for some reason tho

who i'm is???

This list is seriously great so far.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:43 PM (17 seconds ago)

^^^yes, wow

can't wait for the first great rmde pick

the first from my list btw

the clean lyrics are pretty lolzy

still riding around with that thing on patrol maan

(tie w/ #94). 93. Skee-Lo - I Wish [6 votes, 128 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyf0YwUJcqk

^_^

Glad this made it. Was in my 50-60 bracket. Lightweight but super-likeable.

its still fresh. spottie check yr mail son :D and don't give the game away plz.

Skee-Lo's a great one hit wonder, the hooke is awesome

hook

handclaps, scratching, whistling(?) as well as the actual beat. dope.

92. EPMD - Strictly Business [4 votes, 133 points, 1988]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO8PqbkRRYk

(video is mad ghetto but the og version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zwFQUUIDK8&feature=related

Got it hoy hoy, on it.

that's pretty low for EPMD (unless they've got some other track that's going to place...?)

You Gots to Chill will place, right?

Ya never know Shakey - the 100 is full of surprises. For example, the next track is shitty as hell but its ilx canon so it had to make it.

Bring it

91. Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads [5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 134 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sugq0zsAjdE

I feel like this list is gonna be too random to care about placement. Unless some complete nonsense cracks the top 25 or something.

That like my 20th favorite Bone Thugs track, but I get it.

never liked Bone Thugs myself

Yay, for "I Wish", one of the best one-hit-wonder hits of all time. It was my #26; I remember around the time it was a hit, I shaved my head bald for the first time, and some friends of mine I thought I looked like Skee-Lo, so they started calling me that. That tune is so solidly intertwined with a particular era in my life that I could just not have left it off my ballot, even if it wasn't as dope as it is.

bone thugz used to rule "the box" channel

Glad some Bone Thugs made it; I didn't vote for this one--it feels a bit played--but I voted for others

maybe a hoy hoy was mad at my blondie vote lol

lol i'm down w/ debbie and freddie

Or Murray Head

90. EPMD - You Gots To Chill [4 votes, 139 points, 1988]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGisre9xNU

This video is o_O and deserves some low level meme status

right?

vote to point ratio reflects the exceptional taste of four ilxors

bone thugs are dope, that song is def not close to my favorite

love seeing some epmd

whiney & j0rdan have dropped 14 messages in my inbox in the last 15 mins discussing this thread lol

love Sermon's little dance moves in the bkgd

are Whiney and Jordan both banned or something? why does Whiney get banned all the time?

S'cool bro, I only cried a little (Shakey Mo Collier)

:)

re Bone: no love for Mo Murda/1st of the Month/Fo The Love Of $/Creepin on a Come Up/Notorious Thugs/Shoot Em Up?

"Tha Crossroads" was my #1, fuck anyone who thinks it isn't good! The reasons I put it on the top spot:

* Again, it was a big part of my youth.

* Combining sweet doo-wop vocals with gangsta rap was a brilliant idea, and this was the first time I (and millions of others) heard BTnH do it, so back then it felt like such a revelation.

* Despite the seemingly positive afterlife imagery in the video, the song is all about being afraid of death; the sentiment is expressed in such a straightforward and timeless way that it's almost impossible to ignore. "I miss my uncle Charles, he shouldn't be gone in front of his home..." - who of us couldn't empathize with that? I wasn't religious when the song came out and I'm still not, but the simple, insistent repetition of "and we pray and we pray and we pray" in it always pulls my heart strings: it tells so much about the uncertainties death brings to our lives and how we try to deal with it every day.

1st of the Month is the only one of those I recall off the top of my head... yeah I dunno they just never clicked with me. I dunno, it's funny - probably has something to do with young me being super-serious about my chosen allegiances in the aftermath of NWA (ie, Cube over everybody else), I let a bunch of stuff associated with Dre, Eazy, etc. just pass me by

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Bone is one of those that peaked w/ their first single imo, tho 1st of tha Month comes close

""Tha Crossroads" was my #1, fuck anyone who thinks it isn't good!"

I like it too, one of the first rap videos I really got hooked into. I just don't have the affection for it I used to, and other BTNH tracks have hurdled it over the years. Like, I still listen to Bone but haven't listened to that track in probably 8-10 years. Cant front on your reasoning tho.

"probably has something to do with young me being super-serious about my chosen allegiances in the aftermath of NWA "

haha yah, totally, when I was young and the east/west nonsense was going down, I would always say stuff like "the east sucks man" without any reasoning. I could never EVER get down with Mobb Deep cos they had beef w Pac. Soooo dumb.

Did you vote for No Vaseline Shakey or have you put all that beef behind you?

Bone Thugs have some stellar album cuts imo.

I like "Thug Love" more than "Tha Crossroads" but I don't expect anyone else to agree with me

89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B5dOCSBBEI

Did you vote for No Vaseline Shakey or have you put all that beef behind you?

lol given how shitty Cube got and how much better Dre got (and how dead Eazy-E got lol) it's all water under the bridge at this point

if there were a poll of 100 All Time Greatest Dis Tracks tho, No Vaseline would be my #1

wait is jordan banned??????????????

yes to Jeru

come clean is dope as fuck but really you could pick anything off those first two records and it is legendary

Come Clean is another one that fell just outside my 50. So good.

yes to Jeru

yes

if there were a poll of 100 All Time Greatest Dis Tracks tho, No Vaseline would be my #1

YES

ummm bridge is over come on

voted for My Mind Spray, but I'll gladly take Come Clean

in fact my rap snaps ya sacroilliac!!

Got a freaky-freaky, freaky-freaky-freaky flow.

#21 on my list

88. De La Soul - Eye Know [5 votes, 142 points, 1989]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1CaN4thI5w

And so begins the De La domination.

every time I see the title of that song, the first thing that comes to mind is always the Prince track off of Lovesexy

now now johnny de la only have another 86 songs in the coming 87.

87. Ludacris - Southern Hospitality [6 votes, 143 points, 2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QWQVm9J5DM

so far this is all pretty much the definition of "my shit"

Perry otm.

Anyone wanna have a stab at predictions?

Next record is so goon crew canon that if we had a rolling thread back then, it would have been named after it.

(tie w/ #85) 86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzcdmGINcqI

First thing on the list I haven't heard/heard of before. LEARNING!

Shamefully this is the first time I've heard this. Wow. I approve.

(tie w/ #86) 85. Nas - The World Is Yours [5 votes, 146 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5PnuIRnJW8

Where would be a good place to start albums/mixtapes wise?
xp about smoothe

I don't love that Smoothe album as much as some of the goon cru but that track is great

xp

rolling gun sounds thread

Some Broken Language discussion

BROKEN LANGUAGE POLL

ty

Smoothe The Hustler - Once Upon A Time In America

^only album, very good

the last verse on this next track is breathtaking

released another in 08! not that anyone has heard it

84. Naughty by Nature – O.P.P. [8 votes, 150 points, 1991]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGuGSDsDrM

would you guys be up for a Nas tracks poll

I mean there's one for the Boo Radleys ffs...

btw this list is pretty good so far

I'm trying really hard to not be *that guy*, but...too low?

just glad to see it at all tbh - i don't think hiphop hooray got 1 vote.

O.P.P undeniable.

the placement of various things is really random but in a funny way there are so many GREAT hip hop tracks I am not that worried about a bunch of horrible shit showing up

there are so many GREAT hip hop tracks I am not that worried about a bunch of horrible shit showing up

^ this

Nas & The Boo Radleys would have been a nice Judgement Night sdtrk pairing

lol after the next song i think its all dope as hell for a long ass run

would you guys be up for a Nas tracks poll

I mean there's one for the Boo Radleys ffs...

― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:07 (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just listen to complex's top 100 nas songs that has been doing the rounds recently - it is totally worth it

(tie w/ #82*)83. The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 151 points, 1979]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gD_CwF5YM

*Gets the lower place for what they did to the Cold Crush

I'm not banned fyi

*whew*

good cos i was gonna sb the shit out of whoever would do such a thing

I'm not sure what's more surprising - that only 4 people picked it or that one made it #1. I would have figured it as a slightly dutiful mid-table pick for a lot of people.

Is this actually someone's favorite rap track ever, or is the first place vote for strategery?

lol I might have voted it #1, I don't remember

I'd rather listen to the Def Squad version any-day.

^^^I have that album it is tons of fun

(tie w/ #83) 82. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFA_mpUStI

YES, my 13.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_tha_Beginning...There_Was_Rap

okay that is the first track I have never heard/heard of

yes yes yall

scar on my face but not al pacino

Yah I have that comp, El Nino is great too. Love the Quik joint on there (naturally) and Full Cooperation, Def Squad is just good times all around.

scar on my face but not ilx poster omar little

lol wtf is that comp

xp This and Broken Language for me.

***boom boom***

(tie w/ #80) 81. Ice Cube - When Will They Shoot? [4 votes, 153 points, 1992]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1lUhfsdeyo

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES

'Broken Language' turning up was wonderful for me. Until then it had been a bunch of tracks I loved and was happy to hear again pleased that they placed and then along came something that was new to me and i was like "damn". It is so so good!

So bad ass.

Cube's the first one that has me saying, "Too Low! Too Low!"

Great song.

badass even

Well, Leflaur and Broken Language are both fucking great it seems.

lol wtf is that comp

most lol moment is when Too $hort decides to switch "I Need a Freak" to "I Need a Bitch". altho the Wu-Tang and Cypress Hill versions on there are also both awesome

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http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy24/ccskiing/funny-ice-cube-first-i-was-like-but-then.jpg

^^^never gets old

best song ever

it turns out that you can hear the next song an infinite amount of times without getting bored of it. :)

also :D love that cube meme

(tie w/ #81) 80. Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel - White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) [6 votes, 153 points, 1983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ChjLMbXVrU

FREE BASE!

It's only proper to big up Liquid Liquid right here.

okay that is way too fucking low

Yay for Heltah Skeltah! With that song and album, I've always loved how it's impossible pigeonhole them. They're too hardcore to be backpackers, but also too ironic and self-conscious to be gangsta rappers; it's just a constant flow of all sorts of subjects and signifiers with no discrimination. Such an idiosyncratic, fully-fleshed, well-delivered debut.

Please at the equality with which 80s and 90s is being repped for so far (sorry 00s!).

Please(d)

Tuomas otm.

the next record is another with one of my favourite videos of all time. and the second verse is *PERFECT*

79. Jay-Z ft. U.G.K. – Big Pimpin’ [5 votes, 154 points, 1999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM

Pretty undeniable.

also if i ever meet timbo i think i will drop at his feet waynes world style for his breaks, incl. big pimpin, on s. carter

next track is the definition of ***TOO FUCKING LOW***

(tie w/ #77) 78. The Notorious B.I.G. - Party and Bullshit [5 votes, 156 points, 1993]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA4DG804VuI

dope!

Made my top ten

So hard to pick a Big track, I went with Everyday Struggle, but I'm sure that wont place.

(tie w/ #78) 77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG_qcud1ShM

Sick run

gotta turn this beyonce off for a second and listen to this lol.. one of my fave songs ever

I love big pimpin so fucking much. I prob undervoted it. Could still rap that whole thing.

2001 > Chronic: challops I can get behind

76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ITLNzPoEqs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC5gIBdfIQI

This is, like, legitimately great so far. Even the novelty songs are fairly undeniable.

Should I be waiting for the other shoe to drop?

2nd is the classic remix w/ mc eiht and e40 if you've never heard it

This recap may reflect the poll differently in a couple spots because I applied trad ILM poll tiebreakers.

100. Big L - Put It On [4 votes, 125 points, 1994]
98. Boogie Down Productions - The Bridge Is Over [5 votes, 125 points, 1986]
98. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Brooklyn Zoo [5 votes, 125 points, 1995]
97. Public Enemy - Night of the Living Baseheads [3 votes, 126 points, 1988]
96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000]
95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]
94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]
93. Skee-Lo - I Wish [6 votes, 128 points, 1995]
92. EPMD - Strictly Business [4 votes, 133 points, 1988]
91. Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads [5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 134 points, 1995]
90. EPMD - You Gots To Chill [4 votes, 139 points, 1988]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
88. De La Soul - Eye Know [5 votes, 142 points, 1989]
87. Ludacris - Southern Hospitality [6 votes, 143 points, 2000]
86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]
85. Nas - The World Is Yours [5 votes, 146 points, 1994]
84. Naughty by Nature – O.P.P. [8 votes, 150 points, 1991]
83. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]
82. The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 151 points, 1979]
81. Ice Cube - When Will They Shoot? [4 votes, 153 points, 1992]
80. Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel - White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) [6 votes, 153 points, 1983]
79. Jay-Z ft. U.G.K. – Big Pimpin’ [5 votes, 154 points, 1999]
78. The Notorious B.I.G. - Party and Bullshit [5 votes, 156 points, 1993]
77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

xpost Definitely think Chronic vs. 2001 is a closer call than most would admit.

loving the list so far even though only one song i've voted for has showed up -- guess i predicted the top 49

that is it for today. thx to grillz, johnny and spottie, and of course everyone for voting.

these are 25 great songs, even the one I think is overrated is great

I'm 3/100 so far. Expected such.

Three of mine have showed up - World Is Yours, Rapper's Delight, White Lines. I should've voted for Still Dre too. A lot of the others I don't actually know - Crossroads and SpottieOttie... my favourites so far.

Eye Know, I Wish and Shimmy Shimmy Ya are my three so far. Can't believe I didn't vote for O.P.P. (especially after seeing some of the lesser-liked stuff I actually included on my ballot).

lol I didn't vote in this either

definitely would have voted for these:

97. Public Enemy - Night of the Living Baseheads [3 votes, 126 points, 1988]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
84. Naughty by Nature – O.P.P. [8 votes, 150 points, 1991]
81. Ice Cube - When Will They Shoot? [4 votes, 153 points, 1992]

might have voted for these:

93. Skee-Lo - I Wish [6 votes, 128 points, 1995]
87. Ludacris - Southern Hospitality [6 votes, 143 points, 2000]
82. The Sugarhill Gang - Rapper's Delight [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 151 points, 1979]
80. Grandmaster Flash & Melle Mel - White Lines (Don't Don't Do It) [6 votes, 153 points, 1983]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

I've only got three so far as well, but my albums ballot was so thoroughly intertwined w/ what placed that I would prefer a surprising and random list of things I could just have easily voted for b/c they are great fucking tracks - so far, that seems to be the case.

"O.P.P." is the one i voted for. i don't remember making a deliberate decision not to vote for "Rapper's Delight," definitely would've included it if i'd thought to.

Voted Come Clean, Spottieottiedopalicious, and What's Up Fatlip?

Not mad at anything so far, really. Love a lot of it, esp When Will They Shoot, Broken Language and Eye Know. Heltah Skeltah's the only thing I haven't heard, and it sounds good (though if it's in there over I Got Cha Opin or Who Got Da Props I will be ril ril mad.)

95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]
83. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]

Voted for these but thought I had 'Put It On' in my list too, whoops.

voted for

95. OutKast – Spottieottiedopalicious [4 votes, 1 #1 vote, 127 points, 1998]
94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]
91. Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Tha Crossroads [5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 134 points, 1995]
90. EPMD - You Gots To Chill [4 votes, 139 points, 1988]
77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]

cool list

Look at that, three/four Spottieottiedopalicious voters in a row. I think that's bingo.

Nothing I voted made out although w one exception I didn't vote at all strategically

been good so far, ones I placed are

100. Boogie Down Productions - The Bridge Is Over [5 votes, 125 points, 1986] (#10 on my ballot)
96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000] (tie w/ #97) (#16 on my ballot)
93. Skee-Lo - I Wish [6 votes, 128 points, 1995] (tie w/ #94) (#47 on my ballot)
92. EPMD - Strictly Business [4 votes, 133 points, 1988] (#12 on my ballot)
84. Naughty by Nature - O.P.P. [8 votes, 150 points, 1991] (#45 on my ballot)

kinda suprised "you gots to chill" beat out "strictly business" maybe ppl got confused haw

Nothing I voted made out although w one exception I didn't vote at all strategically

― lebroner (D-40), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 20:37 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

made me lol

it is strange how Big Pimpin's cultural moment just totally passed me by - never heard it on the radio, never heard it at a party, never heard it in somebody else's car - it's like it only exists retroactively for me

how is that even possible

yeah thats crazy

'Shakey: the Martian Colony years'

I dunno, not a lot of Jay-Z fans in San Francisco, what can I say

I vivdly remember two conversations about that song from my childhood (one was an older kid explaining what BLADs were)

Bay Area has always struck me as remarkably insular when it comes to hip hop, even to this day

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Glad to see "When Will They Shoot" placed. that song is GOAT.

Big pimpin was huge. No way that bypassed the bay

I don't know. I missed it too. I was in SF in 2000, listening to the radio.

tbf radio WAS far more regional in 2000 than it is now

It could be me. I feel like I never really "got" Big Pimpin' anyway. I remember tons of Cash Money on the radio at that time.

I've always felt like when I turn on hip hop radio here I do not hear anything but west coast + southern stuff and that was true back then as well. I mean obviously I missed something but it's not like I made an effort to avoid it or anything, Jay-Z just didn't register - if anything was blasting through the neighborhood it was shit like 2Pac, Spice 1, Mac Dre, E-40, Too $hort, Luniz, Keak Da Sneak etc. plus maybe "Ugh (na na na na)" lol (PG OTM about the Bay always making time for Cash Money, plus dudes like T.I., David Banner)

now that I think of it maybe it's just a holdover of the 2Pac/Biggie beef

That def sounds right to me from what I remember. They shy away from East Coast stuff. I grew up in Cali and have lived in NYC for 9 years. It took me moving out here to start really digging into NYC rap.

Spotify playlist: http://open.spotify.com/user/miketd/playlist/3Gre0dm7q3UC0vQfspoPRu

Never thought of big pimpin as nyc rap, it was all over mtv etc and was straight pop

plus its got ugk and timbo

I haven't watched MTV since Yo! MTV Raps went off the air. UGK didn't get the Bay Area exposure that the New Orleans/Cash Money stuff did, for some reason, I only found out about them years after the fact (lol Outkast namedropping)

Only one song for me so far: Still D.R.E.

xxpost Making a different point, guys. Settle down.

I'm not gonna argue that Big Pimpin is not a pop song (obviously it is) but in terms of radio programming and regional popularity in the Bay, the more I think about it I'm inclined to think that the Pac/Biggie murders really are the key thing... listening to/promoting east coast stuff seems border-line heretical around here. 2Pac is like a patron saint. Even years after the fact I can easily imagine how Bay Area stations wouldn't be super-keen on promoting one of Biggie's buddies, no matter how pop. Pac seems to have rather clearly lost the legacy sweepstakes for the rest of the country though - Biggie's revered as one of the greatest rappers of all-time, Pac is kind of a footnote, an also-ran. (I don't give a shit about either of them, tbh)

I don't think Pac is a footnote at all, given the ridiculous amount of posthumous stuff released (not to mention the "Tupac is still alive" stuff)

it's not like that posthumous stuff is doing his catalog any favors though. it's just cash-in shit.

who is it that actually cashed in btw? is it all suge? family? or?

pac was bigger in chicago than biggie

im not claiming to know what the bay was like fwiw -- i would just be genuinely surprised if big pimpin didnt have a pretty big profile & im not sure if shakey's detachment i.e. not watching MTV might be coloring his interpretation of the bay's bay-centric-ness

also virtually everyone ive talked to sees circa 2000 bay music as pretty much the worst era for bay rap

who is it that actually cashed in btw? is it all suge? family? or?

I don't really know ... would assume it's suge, dude has bills to pay

circa 2000 bay music as pretty much the worst era for bay rap

not gonna contest this point lol

wasn't mama pac behind the posthum stuff

i am the final spottieottiedopaliscious voter

defeat me and you will go on to battle your rival, gary

"i wish" was in my top 10 because "i wish" is the best, also voted "what's up fatlip" and "shimmy shimmy ya" and "party and bullshit"

It's weird how some of this just passed me by for some reason I've never heard any Big L stuff but I've heard bits of that song as samples in a lot of places.

I always have stages where I'm not paying attention to rap music for a while and then get back into it and try to catch up, and some things just never click. Tupac, Boot Camp, Bone Thugs, and Chronic 2001 don't do anything for me at all; I couldn't get into them retroactively for some reason.

wasn't mama pac behind the posthum stuff

only a couple bits of it iirc. even if she was involved with anything on "Tha" Row, one can bet she wasn't paid.

no, looks like I'm wrong, and she was behind all the "remixed from Makaveli masters" and "edited to say G-Unit instead of Snoop Dogg" type nonsense.

3 of my noms so far, (eye know, opp, rapper's delight). Should have voted.

mike t-diva's Spotify playlist comes up blank on my computer so here's an alternative I was working on during the rollout (everything available except BIG, De La and Fat Lip).

http://open.spotify.com/user/dorianlynskey/playlist/0iJcQ4wdgCOURbEHP0wbCD

voted for:

96. Fat Lip - What's Up Fat Lip [5 votes, 126 points, 2000]
89. Jeru The Damaja - Come Clean [5 votes, 140 points, 1993]
87. Ludacris - Southern Hospitality [6 votes, 143 points, 2000]
86. Smoothe da Hustler ft. Trigger tha Gambler - Broken Language [4 votes, 146 points, 1996]
83. Heltah Skeltah ft. OGC - Lefleuf Leflah Eskoshka [4 votes, 151 points, 1995]
79. Jay-Z ft. U.G.K. – Big Pimpin’ [5 votes, 154 points, 1999]
78. The Notorious B.I.G. - Party and Bullshit [5 votes, 156 points, 1993]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

rest of the list is great too, tons of songs on my shortlist

Great results so far.

Hazarding a guess at the top 20: Juicy, Follow the Leader, Paid in Full, Shook Ones Part II, Gin & Juice, CREAM, TROY, It Was a Good Day, Mind Playing Tricks on Me, How I Could Just Kill a Man, Triumph, Flava in Ya Ear, The Message, Straight Outta Compton, Passing Me By, something else from Dre, something from Tribe, something from Jay-Z, and a couple of PE tracks. Based on my album predictions I'm probably wrong but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

i think ante up will be top 20. and nuthing but a g thang.

Goddamn this list is taking me on a nostalgic tour through my childhood. But I'm ashamed to admit that I had never heard that Ice Cube song and it is THE MOST BADASS THING EVER. Don't know how I avoided diving into his discography despite loving Today was a good day, which I placed pretty high

Voted so far:
94. T.I. - Rubberband Man [5 votes, 128 points, 2003]
77. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E. [6 votes, 156 points, 1999]
76. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Shimmy Shimmy Ya [8 votes, 158 points, 1995]

oh, and la di da di xp

Yes, I think you're right. I was tapping these out from memory on my phone last night and knew I'd forget a couple of obvious ones. Feel like I'm underrating 80s Def Jam too but not sure if there's an unchallenged Run-DMC or Beastie Boys pick. With the likes of Mobb Deep or the Geto Boys there's really only one consensus contender. From the 00s, maybe What You Know as well? I can't see 99 Problems, Get Ur Freak On or BOB having quite the same impact in this context that they would in a cross-genre best-of-00s poll. But I expect (and hope) to be surprised in all kinds of ways.

I would assume "I Got 5 on It" is in the top 20; it's one of those cases where everyone loves the single, even though few care about other things the act did.

Similarly, I think "Regulate" will place quite high.

I voted for both and have never heard a single note of anything else Da Luniz did.

And from the 00s, I think "Drop It Like It's Hot" got plenty of votes... Though knowing the average age of ILXors, probably not as much as "Who am I? (What's My Name?)", which I assume is in the top 20 too.

voted for both and have never heard a single note of anything else Da Luniz did.

Haha, I gave them both high votes too, and I've never heard anything else by Luniz either (and I'm only vaguely familiar with Warren G's other output).

Hazarding a guess at the top 20: Juicy, Follow the Leader, Paid in Full, Shook Ones Part II, Gin & Juice, CREAM, TROY, It Was a Good Day, Mind Playing Tricks on Me, How I Could Just Kill a Man, Triumph, Flava in Ya Ear, The Message, Straight Outta Compton, Passing Me By, something else from Dre, something from Tribe, something from Jay-Z, and a couple of PE tracks. Based on my album predictions I'm probably wrong but I'm going to throw it out there anyway.

― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 5:01 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

"Scenario" and "It Takes Two" and "Children's Story" and "Top Billin'" should place pretty high too

don't think "How I Could Just Kill A Man" will be that high up but maybe i'm underestimating it. i think Jay-Z will suffer from vote-splitting and nothing of his will be very high. "Big Pimpin'" might even be it for him on this list.

gonna do a couple now and then some more after 6.

75. Doug E. Fresh and the Get Fresh Crew - The Show [4 votes, 168 points, 1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDkqz5C62SM

wait shit i forgot to write in 1 first place vote but the points were still right.

my #1! TOO FUCKING LOW!

74. The Coup – Me and Jesus the Pimp in a ’79 Grenada Last Night [5 votes, 168 points, 1998]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbiot-mH0EQ

Nice contrast

72. LL Cool J - Rock the Bells [6 votes, 172 points, 1985]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DphkDgAMKqY

72 or 73?

I'm glad at least one tune by The Coup made it, even though my favourite is "Fat Cats, Bigga Fish". But "Me and Jesus..." is hella chilling too, storytelling rap at its best.

Whoa, apparently there is a novel based on the lyrics "Me and Jesus the Pimp..."!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Too-Beautiful-Words-Monique-Morris/dp/0066211050

"Rock The Bells" also comically low

73 sorry. 72 is...

72. The Notorious B.I.G. - Gimme The Loot [4 votes, 1 first place vote, 173 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvL4O3uomg

i personally like these things more when the emphasis is on singles over album tracks but "Gimme The Loot" is pretty unfuckwithable

Gimme The Loot is still p much the most shocking thing hiphop has done

(tie w/ #70) 71. Eric B & Rakim - Paid In Full [6 votes, 174 points, 1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ

also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4O0OTcey1g

and one more before i leave. this placing makes me so happy.

70. The Crooklyn Dodgers - The Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers [5 votes, 1 first place vote, 174 points, 1995]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opWYnUpNtG8

Surprised at 'Paid In Full' being so low, it's always had an aura of untouchable genius about it (possibly cos of the Coldcut remix, ironically enough)

Speaking of that, did the votes for "Paid in Full" include the ones for the Coldcut remix? Or did no one vote for that?

Paid in Full too low (though not one of my two Eric B & Rakim picks so there you go)

I thought I had 'The Show' as my number #1, but I was obviously mistaken lol It was definitely either that or 'Shook Ones Part II' I think.

Rakim definitely will suffer from vote-splitting -- i voted for "I Know You Got Soul" but it could've been any nymber of other songs and i'm never totally clear on where the consensus lies with his big singles

71 my ass. 7 minutes of madness should be #1. im biased.

I always thought Follow The Leader was the one rated the highest.

I saw Rakim live a few weeks ago. Was surprised that he opted for the Coldcut mix of "Paid In Full", given that Eric B hated it. He encored with an acapella "Follow The Leader", which was just stunning.

if he cared what Eric thinks wouldn't he still be with Eric?

I just assumed that they'd have been on the same page Coldcut-wise, back in the day. Maybe they were. Maybe he's changed.

The legacy of "Return of the Crooklyn Dodgers" was probably hurt by it only appearing on a soundtrack album--but IMO it has the best Premier beat, a great Chubb Rock verse, solid OC verse, and Jeru's greatest verse.

The Show and Paid in Full placing way too low imho

never heard that Crooklyn Dodgers track before, weird

I guess fatback's "king tim III" won't be placing ;_;

There's another one too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LLN553cFFE xp

Masta Ace, Buckshot, Special Ed

Special Ed! wtf

Both recorded for Spike Lee movie soundtracks iirc

damn, I am hitting like gangbusters today! Voted for jesus, bells, loot & crooklyn.

Wasn't my vote for Eric B & Rakim (Juice) or Coldcut (More Beats + Pieces) although I voted for the album. Talking of which, aren't all these laughably low placings actually down to simple old fashioned vote splitting rather than voter imbecility? Just a thought...

yeah vote splitting is gonna hurt ppl w/ lotsa good singles I think

So happy Jesus the Pimp made it--one of my original noms I wasn't sure would get any support.

Not a wack song so far. If we keep this up this might be the ILX poll GOAT. (Though a hoy hoy saying "i've genuinely just checked the top 100 and LOL" at the top makes me nervous.)

Also, it's impossible to say whether or not something's too low until the rest of the list goes up. "The Show" and "Rock the Bells" are classics, but there's still plenty of classics out there.

(And it's not like poll results ever really make sense anyway.)

I guess high placings for crossover singles like '99 Problems', 'Hip Hop' (Dead Prez), 'Get Yr Freak On' and some arguably 'cheese' platters like 'Push It', 'Jump Around' and 'It Takes Two' may be on the cards.

FWIW I like all of the above songs and voted for all of them bar House Of Pain and Salt n'Peppa.

It just reflects there being 69 more awesome rap tracks, I'm hoping.

I have real regrets in not voting for "It Takes Two"

it's ok I got ya covered

What happened to a hoy hoy

and one more before i leave. this placing makes me so happy.

― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 8:44 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

gonna do a couple now and then some more after 6.

― WHO THE FUCK READS THE (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 7:47 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

After 6 on which time zone?

In

it is 6:10 here and i'm back w/ beer.

69. Run D.M.C. - Rock Box [5 votes, 175 points, 1984]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GND7sPNwWko

Nice one i voted for

early Run DMC live clips are some of the greatest things ever

my experience of rap was changed forever when I saw "rock box" on a video jukebox at an amusement park in NJ in '84, kinda crazy to think there are *4 years* between that and straight outta compton, in 4 years that shit went from the most groundbreakingest of shit to sounding old + tired #hiphoplife

#19 on my ballot

ok now we enter into the land of ties, as if 100-75 wasn't bad enough. conscensus!

(tie w/ #67 and #66) 68. Wu-Tang Clan feat. Isaac Hayes - I Can't Go to Sleep [6 votes, 176 points, 2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upy3ZkVEdjQ

CHALLOPS ALERT but I find Run DMC unbearably corny

^^^best two non rae verses on The W. And fucking amazing. Almost enough to make The W's filler disappear.

Love Wu-Tang, love Isaac Hayes, but I've always found this overrated. If I want lachyrmose Ghostface I go for All That I Got Is You. If I want a Walk on By sample I go for Hood Took Me Under.

i LOVE rae's verse in this though. might start a thread called "rappers getting so emotional it kicks them off their flow"

(tie w/ #68 and #66) 67. Jay-Z - 99 Problems [7 votes, 176 points, 2004]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwoM5fLITfk

CHALLOPS ALERT but I find Run DMC unbearably corny

Run DMC were corny. I mean, they wore Adidas without the laces and made a big deal about it. And their cadence was clunky even by 80s standards. BUT they were loveable little scamps.

zach that track is just ghost & rza. no rae.

shit meant RZA not rae

i make this mistake constantly

xp
xp xp xp

glad it's not top 20

btw can I just say KUDOS for this thread title

BOO 99 PROBLEMS

I'd forgotten that Rubin makes a cameo in the 99 Problems video. lol

smh that better not be the highest jigga

next one is going to get a whole fucking load of TOO LOWs. Get 'em ready.

Challop (?): In 1984, 99 Problems would've been a rap song but in 2004 it was a pop song. Maybe. I don't know. I didn't think about this very long before posting it.

nice little rock-rap run

Was "99 Problems" a big pop hit or something? It only seems to have this weird cult around it on the internet tbh

can I just say how happy it makes me that the first post in the thread is in my top 10

prefer this version tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQk0GkzePE0

(tie w/ #68 and #67) 66. Public Enemy – Rebel Without a Pause [6 votes, 1 first place vote, 176 points, 1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0b0jIaCEHU

I MEAN WTF HOW ISN'T THAT TOP FIVE?

like I don't remember "99 Problems" being so ubiquitous when The Black Album dropped, it was all about "Dirt On Your Shoulder"

best black album mashup was "99 problems" with "99 luft balloons." i grew much more accustomed to it than the original.

99 problems was huge over here, so maybe blame britishers. but jay's hardest breaks have always been big here (can i get a >>> hard knock life for example) and add in the dizzee jack, it was bound to happen

Just Chuck's voice with his "YES" to start, and more fucking sirens. God I love that album.

I'm just glad "rebel" placed, I kinda feel like that one gets lost in the shuffle of all the great stuff they did at the time

when that thing hit in summer of '87 it was another oh wow game has changed moment, today's results are memory lane up in here

(tie w/ #64) 65. The Notorious B.I.G. – Hypnotize [6 votes, 180 points, 1997]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytH5R4EG-Hw

i definitely heard a couple rap stations blasting "99 Problems" the weekend the album dropped. but yeah the stature it has compared to Jay's other singles among critics etc. is ridic.

"rebel" was #3 on my ballot

my turn for challops: "Hypnotize" is my least favorite Biggie single

Hating on run dmc is corny

99 problems is corny

hypnotize is probably my favorite big single after maybe "one more chance" remix

i also feel that way about hypnotize

Hypnotize is dope but "least favorite biggie single" is like ultimate narc of small diffs right?

"99 problems" is not even in the top 99 jigga songs

"Poppa been smooth since days of Underroos" makes me smile ALWAYS

mtv sort of tried to turn the vid for 99 problems into a controversy thing by having serious-face kurt loder introduce it as being controversial

didn't work/was not controversial

I had no idea 'I Can't Go To Sleep' was a single. I like it better as part of the album I think, it's a bit too emotional to stand on its own. Payoff is still killer though.

yeah I love that they had the brass balls to release it as a single tho

i don't think alive-biggie ever put out anything that wasn't 100% perfect ('miss u' maybe) so yeah its a case of arguing over some petty difference shit.

Hypnotize is dope but "least favorite biggie single" is like ultimate narc of small diffs right?

― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:43 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

not really a correct usage of the term -- but yeah saying it's the weakest of like half a dozen classic songs is not a strong diss

(tie w/ #65) 64. Run DMC - Peter Piper 6 votes, 180 points, 1986]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLWznkxEEN4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfY5s8SXcg0

really anyone can use that track on 2 turntables and sound dope, its the turntablist canon track

Peter Piper's beat is A+++

damn wish i voted for that

^

better track than "rock box" tbrr but I went with groundbreaking and/or sentimentality in that case take yr pick

and I really tried to hew to a one track per artist rule except in the most specialest of cases

63. Kanye West - Gold Digger [6 votes, 182 points, 2005]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vwNcNOTVzY

great track but I just can't bring myself to vote for that guy

amazing list so far. not a single dud

I would vote for his "george bush doesn't care about black ppl" line tho

^^^otm

I didn't vote for any Kanye tracks gimme a fucking break and no way is Golddigger better than anything Run DMC did

er... really?

also happy birthday Kanye

Never cared for Hypnotize either. Love that Wu/Isaac Hayes joint. Run DMC singles are class. Gold Digger is ok, Drive Slow is my Kanye jam tho.

Golddigger probably better than most 90s RUN DMC tracks. Still, I've grown to hate Jamie Foxx and his hokey soul-singing ass can leave now thank you.

okay maybe I should've specified pre-Back From Hell Run DMC

Still, I've grown to hate Jamie Foxx and his hokey soul-singing ass can leave now thank you.

^^^ugh yes

gold digger is pretty great but... no -- kanye used to be a great mc

kanye was never a great mc come on

I think people are just tired of his face showing up anywhere. Understandably.

Kanye West isn't fit to untie their shell toes.

yeah, great producer, great w/ a pop hook, mc? eh idk

kanye was never a great mc come on

THIS x 1,000,000

maybe you can point me to a jam where he turned it out

yeah kanye's face being everywhere is...

lol a hoy hoy took the words out of my mouth

Kanye has always been terrible; his great songs are not due to his lyrical skills

62. Kanye West - Flashing Lights [7 votes, 183 points, 2007]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ila-hAUXR5U

ahhhhhhh

you bastards

There is hilarious, great & unique rapping all over his first two albums

Never got all the love for Flashing Lights

i will rep for Kanye's rapping on Late Registration especially but i will not say he was a "great mc"

this is the shit a hoy hoy has been chuckling about while we go about our day in ignorance

Flashing Lights love all about the track itself, for me at least. Probably counter to the spirit of a rap poll, but I voted for it anyway.

You guys are crazy -- he stopped being great when his success allowed him to become douchier and douchier -- his "complexities" became routine and grating -- still putting out dope albums cuz he's supremely talented, but

He noticeably dropped off as a rapper around 'graduation' which we all know is the birthplace of the grocery bag

i have hope that "gone" will place

Kanye rankings are some bullshit sorry guys

kanye was a dece mc once upon a time but 'great' smh. top ten ever producer tho.

like I could've accepted Jesus Walks or Workout Plan somewhere in the bottom 25 but fuck this beating out the Show and Run DMC and EPMD and what have you

61. De La Soul - The Magic Number [5 votes, 1 #1 vote, 184 points, 1989]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0irL1M15DH8

ahhh. That's more like it.

a hoy hoy applying balm to our wounds

Shakey Mo otm

Pretty twee de la choices

My vote was for Saturday, which I guess isn't any less twee, but I love it.

Too low! My #1

Newsflash: De La are pretty twee

hate to tell you but de la's little known "suck my gat n***az" is prolly not gonna place

xp

Love all de la tho, don't get me wrong. Voted for ego trippin, which I'm sure will not place...flashing lights is the first song on the whole list I dislike

I also voted for Ego Trippin

Lol e3

Yah I voted Ego Trippin as well.

I can't remember, is Ego Trippin the one that's all quotes from other songs...?

Yup

I change my pitch up, smack my bitch up, I never did it.

60. Juvenile - Ha [6 votes, 185 points, 1999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww9VlmXKYgs

uh

Niiice

Find his flow hard to take over a whole album but in small doses, like this, it works.

DOPE

awesome, i was really hoping it had a decent placing

New to me, this one. Can't say I like it really.

wtf

Still have love for Juve, still buy his lp's even tho I know they are average. Reality Check is pretty great front to back tho. I love his voice.

Love how he avoids rhyming by tagging on "Ha" (Ha) or "Yah" (Back That Azz Up) at the end of every bar.

some sick part of me is hoping "crank that" shows up somewhere

rap confessions

i hated juve for years but i've been broken down and find him FUCKING AMAZING now

(tie w/ #59-#56) 59. NWA - Express Yourself [5 votes, 186 points, 1988]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u31FO_4d9TY

Heard "back that azz up" on the radio this morning -- was hoping that would place, but this is a fine consolation -- such a weird song imo, like juvie pretty much talks during his verses then the track opens into this super catchy hook

such a weird song imo, like juvie pretty much talks during his verses then the track opens into this super catchy hook

yeah it's an odd one, the verses barely qualify as rapping/rhyming

lol at Express Yourself showing up

"Ha" is definitely one of the weirdest songs to become the mainstream breakthrough for an artist (or their whole label, for that matter)

what's wrong with "Express Yourself"? wish i'd voted for it

that whole record is p great, albeit a bit too long

express yrself is a bit tame, also dre doesn't smoke weed you know

yeah I have this weird cognitive dissonance regarding "express yourself", like if anybody else made it I'd be like dope but its NWA so I'm like wtf

I must live in a cave, because I recognize the name Juvenile but this thread was the first time I ever heard a track of his. SUE ME.

re: Juve

Yah that song (Ha) made no sense to me in high school, took me a few months to come around to it.

Back That Azz Up is still my favorite club track.

ok i lied next record has the best video ever regardless of genre

YOU"VE NEVER HEARD BACK THAT AZZ UP? xxp

xp If it's Kayne/Perry 'ET' I will be so mad...

(tie w/ #59-#56) Outkast - Bombs Over Baghdad [6 votes, 186 points, 1999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVyVIsvQoaE

xp not that I know of. I'm off to the youtubes.

would genuinely not mind BOB being higher even tho I didnae vote for it

That's it, I'm gonna make you a Juvenile comp.

Okay, yeah...I've heard Back That Azz Up. oof. It's okay.

& Johnny has lived in the Delta his whole life!

(Only in clubs or bars, though, so I never knew whose song it was.)

HA video also ridic

I guess this means 100 Miles And Runnin isn't going to place.

I didn't know what to do with BOB - like, it's amazing but the rapping is totally incidental to its greatness, and I don't even think of it as a rap track so much as ... I don't know what really. I ended up putting it quite high in the end about #13 or so, it was the highest thing that I wasn't juggling as a potential #1.

rapping is not really incidental on BOB

(tie w/ #59 - #56) 57. Eric B & Rakim - I Know You Got Soul [6 votes, 186 points, 1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo84dWcl74k

yeah the rapping on bob is sooooooo important. don't think it could have worked with 2 different mcs

I know! It's full of it. It's full of other stuff too though, it kind of transcends genre for me so didn't sit easy for me in a genre poll.

lol yeah a guitar! it can't be in a hiphop poll!

ok that rakim vid is some bullshit here is the proper version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnNkaO1EMyQ

Is Kanye's line about hating paparazzi worse than the Nazis the worst lyric in the poll so far? Love the music on that song but his MCing is even slacker than I remember it.

Never heard Ha but it's great - weirder than I expected Juvenile to be.

xp I think it's fair to say that BOB seems to transcend genre, just like Get Ur Freak On.

Is Kanye's line about hating paparazzi worse than the Nazis the worst lyric in the poll so far? Love the music on that song but his MCing is even slacker than I remember it.

both polls

56. A Tribe Called Quest - Can I Kick It? [7 votes, 186 points, 1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDFS6cg1AI

yes!

You can!

video version is different to the og btw, which can be heard here with the pic of the rong album cover:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71ubKHzujy8&feature=related

both are dope.

This was #10 on my ballot, highest of my votes to place so far.

Don't know why they cut the Lou Reed sample out of the single version (probz some backroom business), but that's what really makes the track.

I spent all weekend listening to People's... such a dope dope DOPE album

Used to know someone who would steal car stereos to order - we'd joke that his theme song should be 'Can I Nick It?'

yeah he wasn't exactly happy about it. although this is a dude who could have unhappy orgasms.

next up is a song i've not seen much said about it but i think is secretly goon crew canon iykwim?

55. O.C. – Time’s Up [6 votes, 188 points, 1994]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvfQXVo7lQo

can't find the equally great buckwild remix on youtube so far

My number 2.

Bare bones (dusty drum, simple bass line) beat with pure complex lyricism. So great.

wait the dream dropped songs yesterday? damn this poll i've now got to scout that huge thread to just find a link between the homo popist love in

Even the video is as stripped back as you can get.
http://youtu.be/EWFC2PEbwCk

Yeah, didn't vote for this, but I certainly like it being here.

54. Clipse - Grindin' [8 votes, 189 points, 2004]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laOZ7HPu9yU

the dream trks are up on his webpage Sam.

I love the beat to "Grindin'". I don't even have the full track in my music library, just the instrumental.

yeah also wth at that webpage. these are kinda shitty so im gonna rock grindin to get me going again

huh never heard this OC track before - good stuff

"grindin" is still the shit -- such a sick beat, I remember kids in high school pounding that out incessantly

53. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - The Adventures of Grandmaster Flash on the Wheels of Steel [7 votes, 190 points, 1981]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXNzMVLqIHg

i remember locking and unlocking the automatic locks on my car in time to the beat (xpost)

hey spottie my email is working again btw if you are still thinking of doing graphics for the top 50

Yes! Love Wheels of Steel.

Along with spoken word vocals from the movie Flash Gordon, some of the primary records utilized to create the mix included:

* Chic - "Good Times"
* Blondie - "Rapture"
* Queen - "Another One Bites the Dust"
* Sugarhill Gang - "8th Wonder"
* The Furious Five - "Birthday Party"
* Spoonie Gee - "Monster Jam"
* Michael Viner's Incredible Bongo Band - "Apache"
* Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five - "Freedom"
* Sugarhill Gang - "Rapper’s Delight"
* The Hellers - "Life Story"

indisputable classic, was in my top 10 iirc

Cool, I webmailed you last night. Im working on the top 50, will deliver before tomorrow. xp hoy hoy

I did the one track per artist thing, so as much as I've loved lots of today's picks, the Grandmaster is the first of mine to show up in this portion of the countdown.

I had The Message as well, which is entirely different artists strictly speaking.

(tie w/ #51) 52. Missy Elliott - Work It [6 votes, 191 points, 2002]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UODX_pYpVxk

Tune.

the wiki for under construction is surprisingly shitty. wish it had a 33 1/3 or someone wrote a book about records made of ridiculous amounts of samples

YES! Wasn't sure this would make it.