http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj167/simonnevin/DreamLIV.jpg
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
also: prince's birthday!
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
also: anna kournikova's birthday!
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
3pm EST = 7pm GMT = gah, I'll be out. acceptable to take laptop to pub? and demand use of wifi to hear this?
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
Dude any chance I could change the thread title so I don't have to keep loading the words 'Fuck my brains out' in huge letters at work for the rest of the year?
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link
Aha. Secret Terius Twitter. Just unlocked yesterday? http://twitter.com/#!/MrTeriusNash
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
that is not very terius, matt, but *sigh* i guess
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
So what is he releasing? HQ versions of some of those ustream sessions or what?
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
the kanye board crew seems to think it's a full double single
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
of fuck my brains out and body work--that pic up thread is from the radiokillarecords.com gallery
we need to step our stan game up
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
btw the bookmark will retain the "fuck" even if the thread title is changed
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
at least someone still retains a fuck eh
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
rtfu
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:38 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
Yeah. How did they find out about the locked Twitter? Anyway, that Twitter feed says Love IV this year, Chronicles of Nikki (+ a book) in February of 2012. Per the Kanye board/ustream he's already recording for the next album tentatively titled Computer Love.
And he has a new protege named Casha? He's working on her album now.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
Damn now it's 6pm EST
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
UGH
― The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
at least it's confirmed!
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe I woke up to this news. Terius is one sly barn cat.
I hope this is awesome.
― Captain Ahab, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
okay it's 6 pm now
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
i promise you're not as agitated as the people on the kanye board
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
no, but that seems appropriate
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
on some bullshit. argh. gotta be at drinks with friends um....now. fuck. will be missing this.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
so did he mean PST or...
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
Well, now we know how Harold Camping's followers felt.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
evan!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
but yes, speculation on the kanye board is that dream meant 9 pm
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
est
It's not even 6/7/2011 anymore where i am (well to be perfectly accurate it won't be for another month).
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
he just posted the sleeve
damn, live blogging someone else blogging
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
I hope he's put more effort into these tracks than he has the cover art...
― Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
don't worry about it, this lp was great:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/619qVJYGpuL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.radiokillarecords.com/radiokilla.html
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
that's right it's the2011 Porsche Turbo S
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
feel like the link btwn these tracks might be a little forced but fuk my brains out is sounding dope
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
BODY WORKand FUCK MY BRAINS OUT
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
that little melody in the transition is the best part
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
On a phone with no flash. Are these downloadable at all?
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
meh, yeah (respectively)
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
http://radiokillarecords.com//radiokilla_files/songs/leak.mp3
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
these songs aren't awesome :(
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
Welcome to the Site of the Most Loved, Hated, Controversial, and Honest Artist Today...
Radio Killa Records... Home of Real Artists.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
― sean gramophone, Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
i like body work alright. feels like an album track tho
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
or some element is missing
it feels like a co-producer is missing
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link
they definitely sound like they were finished last night at 3am when he was drunk off patron and half-distractedly chatting with fans on the internet
Am I the only one that's way into these? I'm listening to them on nice headphones and they sound incredible. And "Fuck My Brains Out" is the funkiest thing I think I've ever heard from him.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:37 (twelve years ago) link
i like them more with every listen, which is pretty much always the case with dream stuff for me.
must say, though, i'm glad i don't really mind 'odious' lyrics a la make-up bag. because fuck my brains out is pretty odious
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think they're gonna be on the album anyway
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
have been letting these spin for the last hour or so, and liking them more than i did at first. "body work" is dece but slight. i guess it works okay, but hardly stands out, feels generic. "fuck my brains out" is fucking repulsive, and i wish i could get past that, cuz evan's right, it's a funky-ass track.
so FMBO rips prince on the bridge, obviously, but the delivery of "she know i'm a virgo, and i'm impossible to please" reminds me of ... something. shit, i can't put my finger on it! bugging the hell out of me.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
why does he start meowing
i feel like i'll like these more after they go around a few times, sure. and yeah lick it/stick it is sorta a blunt new low.
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol i wonder if terius/anyone is aware of the new t-pain song "booty work" that goes "lemme see that booty work"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:27 (twelve years ago) link
im not feeling particularly repulsed by fuck my brains out tbh. i mean its gross and mean but...
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
also i mean it fucking bangs, so, its pretty easy to overlook how gross hes being
eh who cares
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
it's a post-odd future world, let's get real
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
that song is everywhere and i've always strongly suspected t-pain's success was what gave terius the confidence to embark on a solo career, so yeah definitely (xpost)
― Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
alright i didn't know if "booty work" was getting play elsewhere -- i've only seen "best love song" on the charts, which i've never heard
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:34 (twelve years ago) link
"body work" is kinda cool, tho not much of a song -- FMBO is pretty great i think
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Terius sent some song to T-Pain on ustream last night, I think it was "body work" - maybe he's on the remix
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's not charting real high nationally yet but i'm already sick of it -- which is weird because i love the omarion song it's a shameless rehash of
― Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
okay, so i've spent nearly three hours with these on endless repeat, and i'm feeling p much at home. neither's great, but both solid, FMBO a bit better than that. and now that i've innoculated myself w lol desensitization germs, gross lyrics aren't really a problem. still a bit disappointed. neither track touches love king's highs.
and yeah, wtf is up with that "meh meh meh yeah" break between songs? is he anticipating his critics?
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
My Records are intended for Sensual,sexual and intelligent people. Lovers and Lost Lovers a like.I Don't Want any New Fans! Cheers LOVECULT
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
I like both, but my first impression is mostly how heavy they are sonically compared to most of his work. Really thick and bass-dominant.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
Really perplexed by the "meh, meh, meh, yeah" part.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
Some of the production details on "Fuck My Brains Out" are amazing. That quick, cascading bass synth during the second verse!
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
wtf MEH MEH MEH MEH?
― When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
fuck my brains out is much improved from the demo.
― When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
wow that is a shit website
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
i know you a cheaterbut boy before you leavefuck my brains out
god this guy.
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
i entertain this fantasy that artists who seem gifted in one area will possess overarching aesthetic ~visions~ that work in and connect with other contexts, that talented musicians will be able, for instance, to recognize and even produce good graphic design and prose. i suppose that this is a elitist fantasy, in that it snootily elevates what i take to be a "refined artistic sensibility" (harumph) over sheer will and/or the accidental gifts of providence.
then along comes this web site to settle my hash
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:13 (twelve years ago) link
u ever seen a dream video?
― shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
ha
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
well i'll be involuntarily singing "fuck my brains out" in inappropriate situations for the foreseeable future then
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 07:47 (twelve years ago) link
re: twitter - i saw optimum retweet him on monday, followed from there. for what it's worth.
― haido, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
i love 'body work'
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
Idg what contenderizer's issue w "fmbo" is - this is like textbook dreamisms
Fwiw I think body work is boring and if anyone else released it we'd be all "this sucks"
Fmbo is p dope though, although obv the-dream is an all time rmde when it comes to a personality
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
Body work just seems so stingey with the songwriting (although the-dream has been hit or miss w that for a minute) but typically he would make up for that w melodic generosity. "body work" has one barely-there melodic hook
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
I Don't Want any New Fans! Cheers LOVECULT
his last few single choices explained
― Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
Ha. It kind of explains the entire arc of his career
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
i'm kidding it's a total cliche sour grapes thing to say once your career has clearly peaked
― Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
fmbo is kind of an unfortunately shitty gimmick chorus but overall i'm cool with both of these - better than the majority of love king in my esteemed opinion
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
this whole "i don't know if i'm gonna be with u" transition is just killing me, welcome back dreamer
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:48 (twelve years ago) link
I've felt a little less engaged with each album, but I'm really felling this new suite instantly.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
Huh idk why it's not hitting me at all like that
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
Body-Work sounds better with each listen for me but it's definitely just the prelude groove to "FMBO" for me
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
For me, I mean
i know what you mean abt body work being sparse melodically (for the-dream) but i kind of love how it grinds away
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
FMBO is great. Totally reprehensible, but just so damn great.
'She know I'm a Virgo and I'm impossible to please."
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think fmbo is reprehensible on it's own, it just makes the dream come off poorly as a human being. Song itself doesn't strike me as partic objectionable nb I may not have given the lyrics a complete close reading
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
His king-dick fantasies are a hell of a lot more imaginative and memorable than most
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, his sex is so good that his ex- who is leaving him for cheating is demanding a last round of amazing sex, etc. etc. etc.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
For whatever reason, Make-Up Bag was light enough that it felt like a humourous toss-off and I didn't find it as skeezy as some dudes did, but this is just undeniably shitty behaviour. But it's a killer song, so, you know.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:11 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think anyone has brought up the coda yet, but it's gorgeous. "I'll always miss THAT KISS / A lover's delight" all multitracked harmonies. It's really gentle and pretty.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh noes, no strings sex! odious! reprehensible! literally have no idea what u prudes are moaning about
in particular the notion that this song makes him come off poorer "as a human being" than the trite plodding idiocy of 'make up bag' or god idk a hundred other little things over the years is just laughable
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
― bnw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Lol
I think it's fair to say this has a pretty high narcissism factor relative to his other stuff. But yah idg what is objectionable about it
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
maybe there should be a "but i denied her/mind-blowing sex/i denied her/out of respect" coda
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
rtc otm -- not even nearly as odious as "I luv your girl"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
let's check the odi-ometer
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
I think theres def an increased level of egotism relative to "i luv your girl" but maybe it's that the music is a lot less coy
― lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
oh jeez. i have no issues with no string sex. seriously.
what's gross about FMBO is how after a highly public break up he's written a song about how no matter how much of a jerk is, his ex-girlfriend is in thrall to his awesome magical penis. i mean, it's a good song, but it's still all sorts of gross.
and yes, he's done angry/bitter/vaguely misogynist breakup songs before i.e. nikki, abyss, whatever, but in all those cases there was the vague rationalization of he's angry and was cheated on and there's a source of the gross bitterness.
but if you don't find something kind of distasteful about a guy bragging about how desperate his ex-wife was for his dick even after he cheated on her immediately after they had a kid, etc. etc. then i can't explain it.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
but it's not an objectionable song. so i don't know why i'm arguing this.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince as i assume hes doing 24/7 he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
has he rhymed milian with "vill-i-an" yet
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
Right, this. Thank you, max, for being more succinct and articulate than me.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol alex when u first heard 'living a lie' did u also shed a little tear imagining what nivea would think when she found out about terius and rihanna's shock affair
not every song in the world is directly autobiographical
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
that's clearly what he's suggesting by saying a song about your ex tearfully begging you for mindblowing sex is kinda distasteful coming from a recently divorced dude
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
like, I dig this song but I don't feel the pretend those who think its piggish are being absurd.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
the need to pretend, i mean
yeah but my point is the "recently divorced" alarm is just being activated arbitrarily here, like is there some milian-specific detail i'm missing in this?
and alex even if you wanna go there how does "i don't need another bitch to lie to me" not fit in with your vague bitter rationalization etc anyway?
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
max otm
but i think ppl kinda demand piggishness in their modern R&B
or at least artists think we do
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
my other point is how is it any more "piggish" than he's ever been since the very beginning once you take a couple of raunchy couplets out of the equation, this is just beyond superficial stuff
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
Jeez. Ok. I concede, I was wrong and I shouldn't have read it in. I'd probably find it vaguely distasteful context-regardless, and on reflection I probably find Abyss even less pleasant. None of this means that I don't enjoy them as songs, and I have no desire to be the voice of ridiculous moral outrage or whatever.
It was a vague impression and I stupidly decided to defend my rxn when the idea that the story as written/sung/narrated has weird gender overtones was declared to be prudish and laughable, etc. But yeah, it's not 'reprehensible', I should have picked my words more carefully. Thread can continue along normal course now, sorry for the interruption.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think you can be kinda bummed/grossed out in his transformation from chubby, unlikely loverman to sweaty las vegas sleazeball without it being moral outrage
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
actually, listening to FMBO, i dont really see how this is all that piggish, allowing for some stupid/juvenille boasts, though i expect those kinds of lyrics from the dream - i mean, isnt this what he does most consistently? its not as vulgarly/crudely personal as say, r kelly might do. if i didnt know about his public breakup, and tbh i barely do - he/this doesnt have as much celeb appeal as say if the song was sung by chris brown a few years back - i dont think i would read it that way.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
or it could just be that i really like both songs so dont care
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i had a kid right around the same time as Nash/Milian and my general mindstate then of "how the fuck do you even think of creeping or walking out on somebody at that moment in your life" was the main source of my take on "Make Up Bag" and as the instigator of that whole line of conversation i will say nothing about these new songs strikes me as beyond his usual relatively inoffensive skeeviness.
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
xxxp Last word on this.
There's pretty much nothing on Love/Hate that's has the same sort of tone. "I Luv Your Girl" got cited a couple of times, and while picking up someone else's girlfriend isn't like...gentlemanly...or whatever, but what was triggering my sensor or whatever only really surfaces in Nikki, Love vs Money Part 2, Nikki Part 2 and Abyss. Oh, and Hater.
I'm not saying women aren't objectified in his other songs, but normally they're being wooed or he's having sex with them, or being admired, or whatever. They're either sex objects or objects of affection. Just....when he gets angry/dismissive/vitriolic about women it feels uglier somehow.
But again, FMBO does this less than the others, maybe, and I really like all of the above songs (except for Hater). It was an observation about tone and content, not quality, because I like FMBO better than most of Love King.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
from chubby, unlikely loverman to sweaty las vegas sleazeball
good career summary
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
personally i just find laziness and carelessness way uglier than angry/dismissive/vitriolic at the end of the day
if he's a pig here then he's a sprightly attentive one for a change and not the useless fat fuck of 'make up bag' and 'panties to the side' or the guy who trashed 'february love' by breaking off for a hatercentric tirade about his taxes and owning his publishing or w/e
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i mean anybody who says "ahem, this guys a douche, no thanks" won't get a cross word out of me, but "FMBO" is the kind of "big ol' butt" style, heavily detailed and absurd "i'm a douche and loving it" shit that I'm not above enjoying. I don't know if it ranks with my favorite dream songs, but I'll take uptempo-and-nasty over the more indulgent slow jams of late
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
also it's not a great tune or anything but i have much love for 'hater' and its succinctly otm depiction of the evil side of wanting someone
"hit that shit like a parked car" one of his finest lines too
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
all the Prince comparisons had me looking forward to another "Fast Car"/"Yamaha" jam and then i felt let down by those "Beat It" drums
kind of novel for him to put out these connected songs in advance instead of waiting until the LP to run them together, but i'm not really digging the transition between them
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
it's more Ready For The World than Prince imo
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:48 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
otm
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
The Prince comparisons always seem kind off to me, as with RTTW I kinda see The-Dream as one of those blouse wearing linn drum enthusiasts who came in his wake (if an especially ambitious) rather than a callback to the original article. Even on Love/Hate his perspective was more typically R&B assman, like ray parker jr.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
I think this guy is more "Digital Display" and "Love You Down" than "When Doves Cry" or "Raspberry Beret."
xpost
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:01 (twelve years ago) link
the Prince thing doesn't make sense in other words
crossposted with croup
the problem, though, is that i don't think dream finds anything absurd about filming your girlfriend crying with mascara running down her face as she gets on her knees and pleads with you for one last fuck. it's totally straight faced.
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link
let's not go crazy, there's clearly a ton of very direct Prince influence in his whole catalog, even if it doesn't need to be a critical reference point as often as it is
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
well whether he realizes the absurdity or not, he's the kind of guy who bothers to follow a sex jam with "take a shower/take a shower/meet me in half an hour" so god bless him
xpost some dude, I wouldn't be referencing Ready For The World and '80s Ray Parker Jr. if I didn't think Prince was a valid critical reference point. I just think it's further removed than a simple "he's like Prince"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
As dirty as Prince is, he's not the sleazo that RP Jr is – in the best sense.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
my "let's not go crazy" was directed at Alfred's "the Prince thing doesn't make sense" craziness
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
I overstated it. Like croup, I hear more RFTW and second-tier eighties R&B (we haven't even mentioned Maze + Beverly) than Prince, in part because Nash recycles his own audio/aural tricks.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:17 (twelve years ago) link
um hey i don't suppose anyone remembers that video that went round for a bit a couple of years ago, it was like some random guy coming on 80s public access tv doing this totally straight heartfelt prince tribute act and he was all dressed up? the song turned out to be pretty rad and i think the chorus was like "her name is [silly complicated name like letishikitarita]"
sorry but i've been trying to find it for like 20 minutes
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 2:04 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
actually, LET'S GO CRAZY
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
(like the prince song)
("lets go crazy")
i remember it illuminated a lot for me about Ne-Yo when he picked a block of videos on BET and most of the Prince/MJ was Diamonds & Pearls/Dangerous era -- i think The-Dream's reference points are definitely more first generation Minneapolis sound by comparison but there's definitely some of that late '80s stuff in the mix too
― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
He's totally a sleaze, but both of these get full support. Now why didn't Love King ever come out on vinyl?
― matt2, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
And continuing the Dream vs. Prince things, yeah Dream is an asshole, totally misogynistic, aggressive whereas Prince just loved the sex. Even his early 90's more aggressive stuff seemed to basically just worship the ass. My wife pointed this out to me once.
― matt2, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:15 (twelve years ago) link
what's gross about FMBO is how after a highly public break up he's written a song about how no matter how much of a jerk is, his ex-girlfriend is in thrall to his awesome magical penis. i mean, it's a good song, but it's still all sorts of gross
― Alex in Montreal
alex has recanted, but i'm still slightly bothered (though, as i said way upthread, i got over my initial squeamishness pretty quickly). given the dreamer's insistence on his own controversial "honesty" and the crassly public nature of contemporary celebrity, i think it's disingenuous to treat this as though it's completely unrelated the events of the artist's recent life. of course the song isn't necessarily autobiographical, but he's pushing buttons nonetheless.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince ... he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig
― max
max and matt2's points about prince's sexual excesses OTM. prince's lyrics may be a bit grotesque ("masturbating with a magazine"), but they're generally focused on his desire and her allure. terry's only using her desperate, panting desire to paint a picture of his own complete sexual dominance. it's not like this kind of boastful excess is unique in dude's career, quite the opposite, but sometimes things work for you, sometimes they don't. i mean, shit, i dig "panties to the side"...
― r|t|c, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:45 PM (3 hours ago)
thank you
― positive rapper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
i've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.
― goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh wtg goole, now you made dream feel bad
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.
OTM. So is Ne-Yo.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
what do you mean "real"? the talk is the same regardless of his PUA stats, right? do you mean that it's in character, an artistic device that says nothing about terry's actual feelings & attitudes? maybe so, but it can still be unpleasant.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
or hilarious, or sexy, or w/e.
His swinishness grates when music and arrangements fail him and he looks like another wobbly-voiced asshole. I prefer the swinishness when it's encased in ballad form, cuz he tends to self-absorption (i.e. what she is doing to him) instead of lashing out.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
there's sweet exceptions ("February Love").
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i mean with a lot of other singers who say this kind of shit it either seems like a crazy story they are getting into, or it has some basis in life. with T i just get the feeling that he's basically lying to me. i'm like, fuck out of here man that didn't happen. i don't know why, just, all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.
― goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.
― Number None, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
the funniest/grossest/least believable aspect of FMBO is when she "turns around and gets on her knees"
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol goole, and okay, that's OTM and actually helps
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:10 (twelve years ago) link
the chorus to fmbo kind of sounds like a fast car retread
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like new the-dream after a few years of listening to him all starts to sound like a retread of the best songs on the first record
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:11 (twelve years ago) link
deej otm
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not sure if I just have Dream fatigue or if he has actually fell off but this "body work/fuck my brains out" song is v. dull
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:13 (twelve years ago) link
thirded
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
body work was pretty dull, at this point in my life I just can't accept another the-dream falsetto
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
I used to think Ne-Yo was muy sexy until I saw him without a hat. :/
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
the phrasing of the lyrics on fmbo totally reminds me of prince, the way he pauses between each line, the downward lilt, etc.
feel like I don't need to have a strong opinion on the-dream anymore tho
― british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
totally but it's super-enjoyable nonetheless
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
hahahahaha
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:15 (twelve years ago) link
def. hoping for something *fresh* from him on love iv
fuck it i would still w with an album of retreads tho
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
the thing is i really don't mind it when terius doesn't bother with ~songcraft~, concentrating on ridic goonish punchlines and sweetspot production satusfies me immensely cuz they're kind of terius stripped to his essence. like one of my fav the-dream songs will always be "hit it on the road" which encapsulates a ton of what i love about him
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
re: his lying, i dont think gravitas has ever been one of his strongpoints - his weakness as a singer/someone who can convey believable emotion is kind of both his achilles heel (yo dream! stick to producing etc) and what makes ppl seem to love him so much.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
smh @ u dudes saying his career has peaked before the new bieber album has even dropped
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol uhhh wait, you lads are coming out with this blasé uninspired retread stuff only now after love king?? these two songs are so much more switched-on than that stuff i can't even
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
even on the level of preaching to the converted (which i don't necessarily dispute) theyre infinitely more satisfying
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
I said the same thing about some songs on love king it's just something that gets worse w time and continued repititions of the formula. Really surprised you think these are some big step above love king, feels like same old same old to me
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
Like I was willing to write my dampening enthusiasm off to my own fatigue circa love king, at this pt it just feels unavoidable
― lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah idk, like i say i'm still coming to this from within the morbid terius bubble - i'm not nearly as invested as i was with the lvm material - but the general point is that this has got me back in the bubble to begin with
do think it's a bit sloppy to say "with time and continued repetitions" though, it's obviously the quality of the repetition we're disagreeing over rather than just some sort of automatic ennui kicking in
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
k3v and finney been quiet, what r u guys saying
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
i have no idea wtf he is talking about on twitter 98% of the time.
― bnw, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:48 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
fwiw i was referring purely to his career as a solo performer -- dream and tricky aren't producing smashes as often as they used to but i don't doubt they could turn out rihanna or beyonce or usher's next #1
― 51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
no. i came in very late, circa LK, and loved nearly everything on that record. went back and listened to the early stuff and found it all a bit samey when taken at once, but at least of equal quality. like both of these new tracks now that i've spent some time with them, but there's a noticable drop in immediate, jaw-on-the-floor quality. something's off...
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
Again, i don't think either of these will be on the album so i'm not really worried about the kind of throw-away nature of them.
― Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah there is a single he's gonna play on monday. so who knows what these two are; they are freebies.
― stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
naturally i have already steeled myself for them turning out to be lk session offcuts
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really have any problem with more of the same.
― Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius Nashi may never beat LH or LVM... back then i was the only one Doing me now........
― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
...I don't masturbate nearly as much?
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
(well there's an ILX Out Of Context post for ya)
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
fuck it, this shit is dope
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link
really is - i've been jamming to it all day. love the final coda. hear a lot of the grinding, machinelike beatwork of the "love vs money"s in body work.
― pearsonic, Friday, 10 June 2011 02:32 (twelve years ago) link
the vocals on the verses of "body work" are pretty unusual by his standards & yeah i dig all the grinding & whirring of the beat
― J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. I've now listened to Body Work and Fuck My Brains Out 18 and 36 times respectively, so I guess I dig this.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 10 June 2011 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
im worried about that Tweet - is he admitting self-defeat?
― mingalaba, Monday, 13 June 2011 04:39 (twelve years ago) link
numbers don't lie
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 04:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/MrTeriusNash/status/79815825313374208
MADMAN
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 13 June 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
The Atlantic with a very timely expose on "R&B's Best-Kept Songwriting Secret"
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/06/r-bs-best-kept-songwriting-secret/240294/
― gr8080, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
slate circa 2009 wants their swag back
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
He's firm in his own desires but ultimately respectful towards the women in his life
uh
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that line stuck out for me too
― Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
I guess it's an obvious dichotomy to draw but the whole "he's written some of the most successful pop hits of his time, but his solo career hasn't reached the same heights!" is a really boring hook for a story not to mention that it totally glossed over any nuance
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
also it's been the-dream angle for at least 2 years now
plus it's...not actually that uncommon that songwriter dudes don't become stars in their own right? it's not like babyface became a household name outside of r&b fans either. sticks out more because that's changed a lot in recent years i guess (and yeah dreamer's solo material being of such quality)
― the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
Dream isn't as successful as Beyonce? Would ya look at that!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Such a classic example of a writer projecting his own ideals onto a subject to justify liking that subject. It's like every piece praising some independent rapper b/c he doesn't talk about "bitches and hos," even if that rapper still talks about women in kind of queasy terms.
― Evan R, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
not a good piece
― weird bibby fetish (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
it's not like babyface became a household name outside of r&b fans either.
actually he did!
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, Babyface was huge for a while.
― 51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RRVD1ihAEA
― sisilafami, Monday, 13 June 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
Cue lex asking who Eric Clapton is
― J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
Babyface was so massive that I have to remind myself of the fact. Apart from the hundreds of hits he wrote for every R&B star of the era (including the entirety of the Waiting to Exhale soundtrack), he had "Whip Appeal," "It's No Crime," "When Can I See You," among others, on his own.
Don't forget "Take a Bow"!
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
i basically have nothing to say about these 2 new songs other than i like the pre-hook part of "fuck my brains out", reminds me of "i could never take the place of your man" a little. and the part where dream tries to make like engine noises with his mouth, it shouldn't work as well as it does
― bite this display name (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
so yeah "fuck my brains out" is the realness, kinda whatever on "body work" even though it seems like it should push all my terius buttons - luckily "FMBO" doesn't need "body work" to work
― jag goo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
the hook on "fuck my brains out" is so great, so peak-era prince
― jag goo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
MEHMEH MEHyeahMEHMEHMEHyeah
― Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 June 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
On his twitter feed listing the songs that he wasn't constrained in writing them, he includes Umbrella, Single Ladies and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6odPs7Jq5w
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
that's actually a jam. #terrystan
― pearsonic, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
everyone has a fingerbut they can't point me to the light
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
totally head over heels for "FMBO" now - i'm all about the vocal-less first minute, makes me all http://th771.photobucket.com/albums/xx356/EdieRose/Gif%20me/th_Markbeingspunky.gif
"body work" is probably his worst vocal performance ever
― bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 July 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
uh, in spite of myself, i kind of love that celine dion song...
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 July 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
body work is so much more of a jam than fuck my brainz out
― Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:07 (twelve years ago) link
i only listened to this twice tbh
― rosa parks did not sit on that bus for this shit (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
― da croupier, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:51 PM (3 weeks ago)
wow yeah play "oh sheila" and then "yamaha" immediately after. mind blown
― bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://img.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fp_5373443_trb_thedreammist__opt1__oPt.jpg
― bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash The Internet LP is entitled '1977' and will be released under my real name Terius Nash not The-Dream. Shooting Videos for 1977 all this week2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet ReplyMrTeriusNash Terius Nash does not have a date but it will be released 4th quarter but i will give a 10 song Internet LP while you guys wait!!!! LOVE YOU.4 minutes ago MrTeriusNash Terius Nash for atleast one More Season! Also a free 10 song Internet album will be released by Aug 31st. LP 4 because of the Contract negotiations.....5 minutes ago MrTeriusNash Terius Nash LP4 is Underway I THE-DREAM have decided to go forward with "Diary Of A Madman" LP it almost didnt happen. So ill be in my DefJam uniform...
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash does not have a date but it will be released 4th quarter but i will give a 10 song Internet LP while you guys wait!!!! LOVE YOU.4 minutes ago
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash for atleast one More Season! Also a free 10 song Internet album will be released by Aug 31st. LP 4 because of the Contract negotiations.....5 minutes ago
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash LP4 is Underway I THE-DREAM have decided to go forward with "Diary Of A Madman" LP it almost didnt happen. So ill be in my DefJam uniform...
― Number None, Monday, 1 August 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
BTW NO ONE AT DEFJAM IS HAPPY ABOUT A FREE ALBUM LOL.... they are trying to stop it!
i wish instead of releasing records this guy's studio was just like a radio station you could tune into. he totally sits there putting records together super-fast or goofing around jamming on sam cooke songs, it would be nice to hear more than ever comes out.
― sitcom neighbor (schlump), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 09:55 (twelve years ago) link
*crosses fingers*
Please let this happen.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
Posted this in the wrong thread. Whoops.
Anyway, Love Slave (http://www.hiphoprnbworld.net/?p=8089) is the first single from 1977, the free album. It's aight, fairly standard Terius love ballad, but there's some nice texture going on underneath. Hopefully it grows on me as much as the double single does.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
i really like this
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
it's a nice look for him to go back to this -- sounds like something off his first album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link
His voice sounds like that of a man during the verses -- deeper with no trace of brattiness.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i picked that up too
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 02:00 (twelve years ago) link
why is he singing like ron isley
― (oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
this is alright though, maybe a bit too sparse
― (oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like a demo
― (oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
apparently it is a demo.... for ron isley
http://i51.tinypic.com/2yzbho1.png
LOL
― (oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
lol very nice, bw
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
well ron isely will def sing it better
hahaha holy shit
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:29 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash@BigSean yo need that verse pimp
FUCK
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
:(
― dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
hol up hol up hol up hol up, meh meh meh meh
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
& kiss those omelette nights goodbye
his voice is real interesting on this
― (oboe interlude) (schlump), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think you mean ASS
― Evan R, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/the-dream-terius-nash-1977.jpg?w=475&h=470
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
the fuck
― Tim F, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
ghiberti!
― max, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
i think
― max, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:14 (twelve years ago) link
yeah:
http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/ghiberti/index.html
love it
― ogmor, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link
What does it say at the bottom?
― dutty whiney (The Reverend), Thursday, 4 August 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
would love to find out how Def Jam are screwing him right now. Seriously is there any label with poorer label-artist relationships than Def Jam?
― mingalaba, Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
i always forget that terius is a sculptor as well
― lex pretend, Thursday, 4 August 2011 07:06 (twelve years ago) link
isnt he supposed to be executive vp at def jam? not that i can find any evidence of it other than himself announcing it on his twitter one time.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 4 August 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
Whoa. That is an unexpected and kind of awesome album cover.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 4 August 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
it's really gross
― r|t|c, Thursday, 4 August 2011 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
latest dream projects via twitter: a ROCK BAND and designing a NEW AMERICAN CAR
― (oboe interlude) (schlump), Monday, 8 August 2011 09:38 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like he wants to work in the video game industry.
― I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
sounds like he might be working with WILLOW SMITH 0_o
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
well he's already written two of justin bieber's biggest singles
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius NashVideo Tmrw In NYC "Wake me When its Over" From 1977 Terius Nash
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
ALSO, WHAT
MrTeriusNash Terius NashI'm Sorry Everyone I short changed you a couple of Times.... So I'm going back to Do a Video for Fancy!
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
you terius followers are slacking on the revives
MrTeriusNash Terius NashIm going to a Movie
MrTeriusNash Terius Nashthink i need two twitters or maybe ill just start a blog.
MrTeriusNash Terius NashDont know what movie yet anyone. just trying to say something less thoughtful.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link
the micro-level insight into his process you get from twitter is really interesting. like it seems like the genealogy of 1977 is him deciding to make a record called 1977, then designing a cover, then writing some of the songs, getting around to writing the song about his mom that he thought it'd be good to write, etc, the whole thing probably running up to the time of release. it's so weird! but it works for him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-zeJUaARs
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty-xdzF0r40&feature=channel_video_title
Murderer - inspired by the film Colombiana (i think?). first track we've heard from 1977.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 August 2011 07:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah idk about that one -- production is kinda cool tho
am i wrong to say those drums are influenced by "pon de floor"/"ass on the floor"/"girls run the world"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
i really dig it, although it could lose the fake nylon string guitar imo.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
to me it feels like the drums are just going for a cinematic 'marching snare' thing separate from pon de floor's vibe, but who knows
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
i only listened once but thought the autotune was kinda killing his voice, some
― sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:35 (twelve years ago) link
that autotune is terrible. not in an "omg autotune is so terrible" kind of way but in "the autotune on this particular track is terrible"
low - murderer vs imogean heap - hide n seek
― fauxmarc, Monday, 22 August 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
kinda love it
― sean gramophone, Monday, 22 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
ok i really like that. also thandie newton looking chick in the vid is a+
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
eh.
― Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link
what the hell is this bullshit
― karen d. foreskin (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 03:48 (twelve years ago) link
^^
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
not on the record, incidentally:
1. WAKE ME WHEN IT´S OVER2. USED TO BE3. LONG GONE4. GHETTO FEAT BIG SEAN5. WEDDING CRASHER6. ROLEX FEAT CASHA7. SILLY INTRODUCING CASHA8. 1977 (MISS YOU STILL)9. WISH YOU WERE MINE10. REAL11. FORM OF FLATTERY
― (Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:38 (twelve years ago) link
That's a good sign, not that expectations are particularly high.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
6. ROLEX FEAT CASHA7. SILLY INTRODUCING CASHA
These are out of sequence, right?
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe Silly is a lead single!
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:51 (twelve years ago) link
maybe she's just kinda 'on' rolex + silly is more a sorta Nivea style 'vehicle'
― (Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:52 (twelve years ago) link
maybe the title is "silly introducing casha", as in "it'd be silly introducing casha" or something
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
still disappointed that rihanna song wasn't "photographs featuring will.i.am", ie a song about photos of will.i.am, which would have had the added bonus of not actually having will.i.am on it
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 August 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash When I'm 40 ill write Myself a Pop Smash just so I can Perform on National TV. Not that hard to do. But that's not who I am right now.
― my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
lol / terrifying
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
word
― markers aurelius (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
terius is totally trying to have sex with this girl i know...
gonna try and get her to let me post the emails here
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Monday, 29 August 2011 01:07 (twelve years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
and the thread starts to show true potential
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
"imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single" is prob his idea of sexy talk
― ✇ ruehl (some dude), Monday, 29 August 2011 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
i really really hope that he releases 1977 in some format better than 128kbps.
― mingalaba, Monday, 29 August 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.radiokillarecords.com/1977_lyrics/wakeme.html
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:49 (twelve years ago) link
it's a bit drake-y @:-/
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:51 (twelve years ago) link
i'm more offended by his earnest attempt at rhyming "devil" and "shovel"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
are ppl still talking about 'body work / fuck my brains out' -- i havent listened to either since they dropped basically .zzzzz
― D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:58 (twelve years ago) link
like will any of yall be year-ending those joints
― D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:59 (twelve years ago) link
how many times have u listened to them since they came out vs. like any peak dream jams
this new one has nice atmosphere but is aimless like a lot of drake tracks imo
― D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:00 (twelve years ago) link
nah i dig this tho -- it's sorta reminiscent of new drake stuff in that there's not really a hook? drake's r&b stuff is so obviously influenced by the-dream tho that they were prob bound to blur together as drake got more popular.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:01 (twelve years ago) link
i love drake's aimless, vibing confessionals tho
terius doesn't pull it off as well, but it's also less suited to her persona & strengths as artist -- i'm liking this a lot
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:02 (twelve years ago) link
lol, his persona etc
also lmfao at this
I HATE THAT I’M INPATIENT
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (twelve years ago) link
get well soon, boo
i gotta say that this does feel like a ... way out for him. like, i was expecting to hate this more or it to sound more the-dream like but hes def reigned some of that in for the better
― D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (twelve years ago) link
not sure id be giving him this chance if he hadnt given the world love-hate but for now, i approve
feel like '5. WEDDING CRASHER' has genuine potential
i don't hate this, the end is quite pretty. i don't want him to reign in 'sounding like the-dream' tho wtf
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
YOU KNEW IT WAS OVER I KNOW YOU DID
I KNEW IT WAS OVER YOU KNEW I DID
EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS OVER
SO WAKE ME WHEN IT’S OVER
i like this, from a writing standpoint
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:10 (twelve years ago) link
i feel where deej is coming from -- also sounding less like the-dream is sorta the whole point of this project, like it or not
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:12 (twelve years ago) link
it's a free internet album, i'm not shocked that he's indulging his less commercial impulses -- at least it's not a rock album!
anyway i think this is pretty cool, i might dig a whole LP that was like this!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:13 (twelve years ago) link
the relationship with terius as a recording artist and me as a listener is so complicated now that maybe i don't even know what i want. maybe i don't even know
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
this is way better than "murderer" anyway
i think that song was anti-pop in all the wrong ways... the production was really wonky in a way that i'm sure he thought was profound & different but it was just kinda shitty -- this is a much more agreeable attempt at not making an overt pop song imo
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:58 AM (6 hours ago)
"body work" is a dud but i fuck hard w/ FMBO
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
can u guys guess which of -dream's '07 hits (ones he penned obv) he bites here?
― pearsonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
body work's the keeper of the two, imo
― Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
― pearsonic, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
he repeats the "eh-eh-eh-ah-eh" part from "bed" at the end
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
xp haha yup
the part after that also rly reminds me of this classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQeqmNbA2Hs
― pearsonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
dropping in 34 minutes btw
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
the album?
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
1977
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://yfrog.com/mns4htj
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://yfrog.com/gy471txoj
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
this is up now (btw "murderer" isn't on this)
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
oh & he's gonna be ustreaming very soon
where do i get
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
with the google
― markers aurelius (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
found nev mind
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
he showed surprising restraint in waiting till song 10 to try and sound like muse
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
i definitely approve of this album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
so many things to say about the big sean verse
he needs to get his ass beat for calling himself "B.I.G." multiple times on this
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
"wedding crasher" > "florida university"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:21 (twelve years ago) link
big sean either unintentionally riffs on ER's "so good" or he makes some sly allusions to it, in which case... props
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
my irl rap friend was repping hard for that big sean album.
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw he is not to be trusted
my main irl rap friend, i should say
You need a three strikes rule, maybe Big Sean praise is worthy of all 3 strikes though. I wish I had an irl rap friend.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 07:04 (twelve years ago) link
don't we all
bastid could have released this on a day i have nothing to do but nooooooo has to do it 10 minutes before i need to leave.
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 07:13 (twelve years ago) link
spanish guitar on "long gone"!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:38 (twelve years ago) link
Is this good then? I was kinda braced for it being terrible given that a man with Terius's quality control was willing to give it away free.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
i'm only a few tracks in, nothing blew me away until "long gone"
"ghetto", which comes after it, is TERRIBLE. who is this big sean person
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link
seems a lot more consciously diaristic than anything he's ever done before
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
which means there's a lot more of a sense of ~the real terius~
that's not necessarily a good thing :/
sounds pretty though, mostly, in a low-key way not in a "here are my epic song suites" way
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
YOU USED TO BE ANTI INTERNET
BUT NOW YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BLOGGING AND SHIT
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
i'm only on #2 but the minimalism is nice; the melody's almost like some kinda soft rhodes part & much of the song just goes in loops
― (Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
<3 wedding crasher. on some love/hate sh!t imo
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
on first listen i think this is pretty great
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
less about the sudden left-turns of the previous two records, more about setting up an environment in which terius can oscillate for 5 minutes at a time. swampy yet translucent r&b.
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
Getting heavy Drake and R. Kelly vibes from the first few tracks.
more about setting up an environment in which terius can oscillate for 5 minutes at a time is absolutely right. Holding back on an opinion for now.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Wedding Crasher aside this is sounding like the collection of shitty offcuts it probably is.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
^^ could barely get through the first 4 songs. 1977 is alright too.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
Grinning like an idiot as I listen to this. I recognize that this is probably rail material, but I'm too damn delighted to care.
Rolex music! Damn.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
honestly have no idea what ill think of this
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
Casha has a nice voice for a ten-year-old boy.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of dig Silly.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
silly is a good song but yeah her voice ain't muc
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
Y'all know the original, right?
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzqPOK6RmsE
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
oh n/m then
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
Andy K, always impressive
― Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
damn
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
i'd never heard the original "silly" but if yall aren't familiar with deniece williams you really must hear "free"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
and indeed, here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTDWIZwEDU
i'm fond of the whole this is niecy album that it's from
The rawkout at the end of "This Shit Real N***a" is just NAGL for Terius.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
At least he hasn't put something like that on a real album. Yet.
― Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:16 (twelve years ago) link
at least it wasn't the whole song
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
lol i was going to ask jokingly if "silly" was a deniece williams cover -- really don't wanna hear this shit now
― lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
I posted that last message only halfway through and it got better almost immediately after that. And then radically worse. Only real keepers are Silly, 1977 and maybe Wedding Crasher. Otherwise it's really sub-par in terms of both songwriting and production - the one with Pharrell that explodes into rock guitars is fucking awful.
The rest is kinda like an hour's worth of Sex Intelligent except not really that good.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
I think it works best as a zone-out listen. If you put it on and don't ask anything from it, it's a nice little treat. But there's not a single track on here that matches anything from L/H, LvM or even Love King.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
^officially scared to listen to this
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
idk it exceeded my expectations personally
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
i like "wake me when it's over" & "wedding crasher" as much as anything on LK outside of the suite
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:54 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark
tbf has there been a terius leak u havent liked
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
what does "terius leak" mean?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, it meets a need for me. I feel the same way about the Trey Songz "Anticipation" tape; the songs don't really bowl me over, but it's got a good vibe to it, and whenever I need something pleasant (and a little unobtrusive) to listen to, it's there for me in my iTunes
― Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
xp is there solo terius music that i do not like? aside from a song here or there, not really, no
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
i think the album needs to be met on its own terms -- comparing it to his previous three albums doesn't seem right to me because i think it's designed to do different things
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
kinda hate that line of crit-talk tbh, does it bang or does it not bang, that is the questeon
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
idk man how about you listen to it
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
gonna when i get home!
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
which is sort of why i distrust your snap-approval judgment
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
is it better than either of his three albums? no. that said, i don't think it's that far off of love king, which i think is a solid level or two below his first two albums anyway. but i don't think my post is crit talk anyway, i think terius would agree w/ me. i don't see anything wrong w/ trying to understand the artist's intentions.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
still cant believe ppl find love king to be a step below love vs. money
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
but anyway, u defended 'let me see the booty' so
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
well aright -- almost every single person who posts w/ any frequency about the-dream on ilm likes every single one of the-dream's three albums, so i'm not sure how my snap judgment is any different than anyone else's aside from the fact that i like this.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:07 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark
so does brainwasher. lemme know when you invalidate his opinion, too.
i rep for "let me see the booty" too
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
so does ikonika
im not invalidating all of your opinions, just your snap judgments on the dream, particularly when other opinionated ilxors are disagreeing w/ you
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
i'm talking about by opinions on the dream
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i think it's formally different enough to merit looking at in a different light; there's such an emphasis on texture and layers on the three solo records, and there's a simpler, clunkier thing with this - the drums sometimes feel pretty brash because they aren't cushioned by deep synth tracks, and his voice isn't nearly as sweet at he usually shoots to make it, imo. i am not crazy about this so far, though i dig some of it, & am looking forward to hearing it on headphones over the next few days, but i don't know if some of the weirder stuff - 1977, say, is gonna work itself into my head.
there's bits that are not great though, yeah, mainly the high energy stuff.
― (Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
i think j0rdan and i have different snap judgments on 1977, are u invalidating both of them at the same time?
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
deej have you listened to this? if so, what do you think of it? if not, i'm not sure why i'm arguing w/ you
i'm fond of the whole this is niecy album that it's from― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:11 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark
― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:11 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark
It's a classic -- basically an Earth, Wind & Fire album with her as lead vocalist. Second album is classic, too. Stuff gets spottier after that but there are major moments ("Silly" off My Melody, for instance).
So yeah, I'll take Monica's "Everything to Me" over the Nash/Casha version of "Silly" any day.
Casha seems like a fine singer but I guess at this point I'd rather hear him showcase a female singer who sounds like a woman.
― A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
xp did you stop trusting my opinion on gucci mane when i repped for 'mr zone 6'
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
i dont know what yours is. but 'let me see the booty' was trash
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:13 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
idk but you're getting awfully butthurt. everyone here does this to a degree - ive taken enough zings about being a jacka fan & frankly i think im much more likely to shit on one of his songs than you are one of the-dreams
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
"i drown my liver in this liquor" is a really obtrusively bad lyric
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
ha i'm guessing most of the people on this thread don't know/care about ikonika
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
j0rdan is right in that it's clearly not intended to sit up there with the ~love trilogy~
that said i could put together a double cd of terius outtakes and demos that would be better than this
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
my snap judgment is that this is pretty bad
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:15 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark
i'm not getting awfully butthurt, i'm just defending myself & my opinion. and anyway, plenty of ppl have accused you of what you're accusing me of, seems a bit of an odd position for you to take.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw this just means that if lex comes out w/ a measured take of this particular album then i'll be more likely to take it seriously -- "he even liked 'let me see the booty' but he doesnt like this -- not a good sign" -- than if u came out enthusiastically for it
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
i think my take on this is pretty measured. i just think it's good.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:19 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I dont think the-dream is in a position of needing critical cheerleading though, whereas when we put a lot of energy (notably, CRITICAL energy) into covering gucci at first there was a dearth of positive coverage (similar to ... basically any artist ive been accused of 'stanning' for)
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i havent even heard it yet! im just saying that when im getting conflicted reports, considering what dream tracks i do not like at all that you've repped for, it means im less likely to agree w your take on it
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
so how do i get my ipod?
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
there was a time when the-dream needed critical cheerleading. that time has passed. the same exact thing could be said for gucci mane. or waka flocka flame. or lil wayne.
but i'm not and haven't been cheerleading for this album. i just think it's good.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol i first heard of the dream through ikonika, reading an interview with her in the metro, she was naming her albums of the year and love vs money was one of them
xxpost
― prego, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
i dont think you're getting me but w/e xp
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
right but this is just about your expectations, again, since you haven't heard it. my "cheerleading" for the-dream is certainly not unique on ilx, or at this point outside of it. i just happen to have a differing opinion on this album. it has nothing to do w/ anything i've said previous to this. i could very well be right.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us
― D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
title of track 1 otm
― uberweiss, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:29 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark
well this is certainly a pretty interesting thing to bring up?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
lollll i remember talking to her ahead of this feature, she was all like "i don't know how to narrow down what i want to pick"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
i'm with j0rdan on this but you probably shouldn't trust me about that either because i think the rawk outro in the pharrell track is hilarious? maybe next listen i will find it terrifying
but still i think it's a good record of exercises in mood
― mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
i say this with love and not in a dismissive or condescending way -- guys surely this can be taken to gchat
― lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
^
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:31 (twelve years ago) link
i like "wake me when it's over", this isn't the look i really want dream to be pursuing but as dream-doing-drake-doing-dream it's ok
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 03:50 (twelve years ago) link
"used to be"
his vocals on this kinda remind me of the least listenable parts of love king - no real form to the songwriting here at all or hook really, production is really weak too, who produced this? is this whole thing pure terius? *checks wikipedia*
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
i guess in feel "long gone" is supposed to be like the 1977 analog to LvM's title tracks or "abyss" on the last one - i've always felt kind of alone in saying these epic feeling joints were easily his weakest material - for me they seem to trade songcraft and other things dream really does well for "atmosphere" or whatever - mercifully this is short
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
ghetto starts real promising for me, it's got that percussion that reminds me of my favorite LOS-produced dream joints - verse is really lazy/weak, damn, none of this shit really goes anywhere - i do like the vocals though, it's got that light cadence and bounce that characterized the best stuff before this last album - oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song) but i'm a little drunk and can't place it atm. aaaaand big sean...big sean's verse was short thank god, whoa now he's interpolating beyonce's "dance for you", getting major points over here...uh ok he's basically just covering it...scene
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
"ghetto" kinda reminded me of mariah's "ribbon"?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
this was good right up to the point where i queued in Danny Brown in the middle and then got hooked on it instead
― Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
"wedding crasher"
ok this is pretty much catnip for dream stans, has like 100 different signifiers that get us all worked up - this is like the "FILA" of this shit but without the great production unfortunately - yeah i mean i'm willing to partially take back what i said what i said to sarge earlier today, i mean idk how many times i'm gonna want to bump this shit because unlike a lot of dream songs/productions etc there doesnt seem to be a lot going on under the surface but it's a good listen the first time around to remind us of the things we like about terry
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
my download of this stopped halfway through and I haven't been motivated to re-download tbh
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
"rolex"
ugh this is another love king outtake-sounding joint - really hate that little vocal run he's been leaning on like listen to him singing "my nigga chris a(?) can't imagine what this is / can't wait til you get home nigga look how we liviiiin" ugh i mean who thinks this sounds good, come on son. this hook totally bites yelawolf's "trunk muzik"...yelawolf is a rapper, pretty good indication that biting his hook for an r&b song is a bad look - this casha chick seems pretty faceless, if ship thought that mariah album was her doing "dream karaoke" then he aint heard shit
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
:/
damn, i had hope.
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
also, something I've been thinking for a while now and kev's thoughts sort of reminded me of - the-dream isn't really that good of a producer, and I think you can definitely see a correlation between when he started self-producing his stuff and the relative decline in quality.
Love King was 90% self-produced, right? He produced FMBO/Body Work too.... I mean, he did produce my favorite song on LK (Sex Intelligent/Remix) and Tricky produced what everyone considers to be the worst song on the album ("Panties..."), but I think in general the Tricky/LOS production of the first two albums was a lot stronger.
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that's key.
― goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
"silly" (introducing casha) (lol)
ok this is the cover one, right? was about to say how it sounded really out of character for dreamer. anyway casha actually sounds human on this one, pretty solid - might have to listen to that original
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
brainwasher i'll address that post after i finish listening to this
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe y'all never heard that smh
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
ok cool
"1977"
this is another one of those one or two songs he puts out on every album (except his first!) that just aims way too fuckin high imo, i mean i can't tell if it's just that he doesn't have the voice to pull it off or if it's just lame straight up - it's probably a mix of the two tbh. production is really ugly and difficult to listen to on this, lot of syncopated percussion that isn't doing it for me at all, don't know what instrument is making that moaning drone sound in the background but it's awful
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
"wish you were mine"
tracks like this just make me want to put on love/hate to make sure this is the same artist i fell in love with 3.5 years ago, i mean what is this bullshit? i have nothing to say about this
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:37 (twelve years ago) link
"this shit real nigga"
well dream flows better than big sean at the very least - oh there's a grocery bag, nice. anyway this isn't a terrible rap song actually, the hook is weak but i actually don't hate the production, did pharrell do this? i'm running out of liveblog passion at this point tbh. oh cool, a guitar solo *rmde*
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:41 (twelve years ago) link
wedding crasher needed another pass through the production machine. its like almost great but he just won't shut up for 10 seconds.
― very public (bnw), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
"form of flattery"
i guess this is the closest we get to a "ballad" on this, remember when he used to run those? anyway production is super minimal with some sad strings, sounds like something off of that last james blackishaw album or something. the multitracked vocals around the chorus are actually kind of pleasant, not much else to say about this one
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
liveblog? more like LIVEFLOG
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
anyway brainwasher i've been kind of thinking about dream and his production since love king, i mean i think when "FILA" first leaked in advance (back when TI was on it) i said something about like "yeah LOS came to play here" or something before i found out after the album dropped that apparently that song was all dream - i mean in a way i get more excited about the production on dream songs than the vocals, or at least they're equal. so yeah but to see that dream got solo credit on that when he clearly aped a lot of earlier LOS joints (and did it well!) kinda muddied the waters for me a bit and turned my ideas about production on dream albums upside-down, i mean who knows to what degree dream contrubuted to those early joints that tricky or los got credit for when love king sounded so familiar in spots? the fact that the production on 1977 is mostly terrible kinda re-raises that question
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, clearly he learned things from tricky & LOS that have informed and influenced his own productions, but I think the difference is pretty noticeable. A lot of Terius' productions come off as flimsy to me, like they're missing the intricacy and incredible attention-to-detail that Tricky & LOS bring to the table. Even a song like "Sex Intelligent," which has a lot going on and some cool details in the background, isn't as full-sounding as something like "Put It Down" or "She Needs My Love." Not sure if I'm describing it well, but a lot of his newer stuff just falls flat to me and the production is 100% at fault here (he's obviously still an incredible songwriter when he's on - as Beyonce's 4 proved).
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
had trouble getting through all this. i really think, more than the production, the weak songwriting is what differentiates this from earlier stuff
― D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:29 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinktitle of track 1 otm― uberweiss, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
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i loled
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (twelve years ago) link
I LOVE THE WAY YOU SMELL
BUT YR ALWAYS ON SOME BULLSHIT
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
Liked it just fine.
― pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
i just let it play three times in a row while lounging in my skivvies, catching up on reading some news + ilx threads
― (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:30 (twelve years ago) link
Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days? His work around 2007 had so much more depth and bite to it, now it all sounds so much more presetty. I really like Silly but those Toytown synths sounds ridiculous in the staccato lead-up to the chorus.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link
― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:27 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark
― lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:30 (twelve years ago) link
NOW I'M ON A LOVE TRAINAND I HOPE I GET OFF COS I'M SURE THE NEXT STOP IS COCAINE(OR SOME OTHER DRUG)
― thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 2 September 2011 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius NashActually since I said I was retiring I made 1977 5 and Love IV 4. So like jordan I came back wearing the 45.
For the sake of my future fandom I may need to unfollow him.
― Evan R, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days?
that studio video posted upthread was really interesting. on one hand it's really impressive that he's writing songs on the spot and making really quick decisions, and knocking out tracks in an hour per. on the other hand that doesn't leave much room for detail work/spending time on sounds/etc
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link
a pretty modern methodologynot sure terius will be the finest practitioner, tho
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like there was something to his strength being the tension between tossed-off melodic instinct & labored-over, well-crafted track construction. now he's lost that balance
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
you feel he's lost it based on a free album?
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
not sure what the price has to do w/ it
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
nor did i imply that hes permanently lost it or w/e
although i wd say i am not hopeful
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
A lot probably hinges on how much Tricky and LOS involvement there is with Love IV
― Number None, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
it's not a correlation that always holds up but i tend to have lower expectations for something an artist gives away free than a "proper" release - in the case of terius it seems it would obviously be kinda tossed off in comparison to normal
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
i find these days i don't have the time or energy to bother with "expectations" or predicting how good an album's gonna be anyway. it might be genius, it might not be, til it gets here it's all speculation.
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but its been a slippery slope on his albums too
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
we've been over this before but you know i disagree
― lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
""
― thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 12:38 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark
except you think his last album is better than its predecessor
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
they're comparable. i like more songs on the 3rd, on balance. the 1st is still head & shoulders
― D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song)
-k3vin k
― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:09 AM (Yesterday)
it's "gangsta luv"!!
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
whenever i listen to "long gone", i always picture kyle from "party down" singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
ROCK OUT!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/3077792560_92caa8e10e.jpg
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 2, 2011 10:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
maybe my ears are tricking me, but the sound in those 'making-of' vids seemed different to me. like, he whips up a demo with cheap sounds as a songwriting tool, and then the producers re-do it, add detail and depth, etc.
i think that's what his own productions are missing, some of the sparkle. they're kind of flat and unmixed somehow, there's not much dimension.
― goole, Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
i wish the verses to wedding crasher were better cuz the chorus has srsly been stuck in my head all wkend
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
never seen a nikka buy a house from the toilet
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:38 (twelve years ago) link
singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"
lolz this is in 'used to be' btw
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
this new album is an hour of everything I hate about the love/money and love king suites
blegh
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
what do you hate about the love/money & love king suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
esp you, kevin?
the interminable meandering vocals, the underwritten choruses, the ponderous and directionless instrumentation that weakly suggests 'bombast' but nothing else
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
the way it sounds like it's one bong hit away from being a spoken word joint about how you hate your ex
dayo otm
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
hmmm, i don't pick up any of this in the suites
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
i think i've been probably the most outspoken member of this board in the past few years saying that the "suites" (title tracks on LVM, abyss/february love/whatever on the last one) are his weakest material! they tend to trade corny atmospherics for actual songs imo
xp
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
haha I want to post a screencap of my itunes playcount for love/money
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:35 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
i disagree w/ this characterization of the suites
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
partic 'abyss' ... wtf
I've always hated the suites but I dunno how vocal I've been on these threads about that. I distinctly remember j0rd defending the suites as being among the best songs on l/m and love king tho... lex too I think
yeah you love abyss, i know, i think it sucks, we've been over this xp
you just otm'ed dayo and i agree 100% w/ him so idk what side you're on here
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
i should take back my dayo otm -- i do think that this album is the worst parts of the-dream's schtick, but i don't think its the suites themselves that were the problem or have poor songwriting on the other 2 albums
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
fuck I almost had my first deej otm
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
*writes long meandering song full of corny atmospherics in protest*
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
what's the suite on love king? yamaha-nikki 2-abyss? that one is awesome. if the suite is sex intelligent, i sort of agree that it's boring.
i have no use for love vs. money-love vs. money part 2.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
dayo otm about his characterization of this album though imo
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
sex intelligent -> sex intelligent remix, nikki pt 2 -> abyss
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
woohoo *writes FILA pt. 2* xp
abyss is so great i don't understand how anyone could not love it
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
the abyss has a nice outro but the part leading up to it is a huge slog
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Ar7FM.png
I think some of the lvm/lvm pt. 2 plays were a result of listening along while reading posts on here about them
imo the suites are
love vs money -> love vs money 2 -> fancy -> right side of my brain
yamaha -> nikki pt 2 -> abyss
i... can't remember reading many people speaking out against these songs but maybe i've forgotten idk
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
both suites are central to enjoyment of either album imo
it's an art, being mean to your ex in a song. i love abyss and florida university, but the love vs. moneys are so boring. i think it's because abyss + f.u. glory in how juvenile they are, but the lvms are so self-important and thinking they're deep or something?
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link
i know this is the opposite of how most dream fans on ilx feel, but love vs. money--->fancy is all just dumb to me. sometimes i think it's because i'm a girl lol.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
i like right side of my brain a lot though
yeah the LvMs are possibly my least favorite the-dream tracks, outside of 'panties to the side' and 'let me see that booty' and that ilk
so self-indulgent
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
horseshoe i can see where you're coming from
personally i like the LVMs because i think they stand out sonically on an album that has such rich & idiosyncratic production everywhere else
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i guess abyss isn't juvenile, but it's just straight-up mean instead of entering into tiresome justifications for meanness. also it sounds amazing.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like my love for dream's disgusting persona is this very delicate balance and 1977 just seems like he ripped off the sleazeball mask to reveal a really sincere sleazeball and it's like ugh put your clothes back on.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link
what do the LvMs bring sonically though - hey, terius knows how to trigger a gunshot sound?
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i am less attentive to this kind of thing. lol english majors.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
the entire thing is pretty painful to listen to
the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'― D-40, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:39 PM (4 minutes ago)
― D-40, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:39 PM (4 minutes ago)
i basically disagree with everything in this post, starting with what the suites even comprised - suites were pt1/pt2/fancy/right side on LVM (and i do love the latter two; tellingly they're a lot different than the former two in terms of structure, atmosphere, etc) and i guess yamaha/nikki pt2/abyss on the last one and obviously 'yamaha' doesn't need the other two to exist at all. i disagree that "nikki pt 2" is among his best songwriting jobs - weak, repetitive non-hook...and like i said imo "abyss" is just ugly to listen to but i think pretty obviously has some of his absolute worst lyrics
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
that first part was xp to horseshoe re: abyss
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
on the off chance nobody has made the "wake me when it's over" zing on 1977 yet, well, wake me when its over
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:44 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
abyss has an amazing hook -- you guys are crazy
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
like i said imo "abyss" is just ugly to listen to but i think pretty obviously has some of his absolute worst lyrics
u crazy, chorus of abyss is amazing
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
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― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:46 PM (6 minutes ago)
lol well pretend forgetfulness, etc, but i remember you saying the same thing and i said "only if you're a music critic" - the other songs bang harder end of story
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
only thing i disagree w/ re: horseshoe is that the production/songwriting on 'fancy' is so amazing that i'm willing to build up a 'hes playing a character' fantasy abt it
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
that might not be a disagreement idk
there is literally nothing wrong with fancy/right side of my brain & fuiud!
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
fancy is the one where i just find dream's fantasy about this materialistic woman kind of dumb, but i might be being unfair. if it were written by a chick about herself i might like it more. also, though, it would probably be better.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't listened to it in ages so i will now
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really listen to the-dream for the lyrics
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
the production on that is so epic xp
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
except for 'florida university' why because f. u.
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
idk i've always taken these almost like the-dream & tricky's take on industrial music
i mean it's sort of an obvious trick -- cold & punishing beats frame a song where a dude's life has become sad -- but i think it works
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
"fancy" is just o_O in every way
'fancy' is this 6 minute concentration of energies that never really finds a release, it's awesome
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:01 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah...i am dumb about talking about the music part of music so i talk about lyrics but i don't mean just lyrics, i just don't have the language to talk about the sound part. but i really love some of his lyrics.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:02 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark
i don't agree w/ that at all!!
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
yah fancy is more swirling wide screen cinematic grandeur
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
the thing i basically love about his sound is the "everything is happening inside a bouncy castle" feel. sometimes the lyrics are so dumb they take me out of the song, and i'm afraid "fancy" is one of those.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha well I almost never listen to the lyrics unless they jump out at me. I'm also an eng/lit major type fwiw.
I would totally write a freud style sublimation of energies essay about fancy if I was still into masturbating into music publications
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
wait yeah what would u call the last 30 seconds of not a "release"
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
i think that part of me is also forgiving about it because i am broke & fantasize pretty readily / can understand why ppl fantasize about how much money would change their lives when working a shitty job, and i guess at some level i wish a the-dream would swoop in & hook me up w/ private jet rides
but not terius specifically
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
this song is soooooooooooooo long you guys
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
'right side of my brain' is the release
― prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
i know, it's weird, i like a lot of songs about materialism, but i just don't vibe with the particular fantasy in fancy
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
the last 30 secs get so close to being an eruption but it never quite gets unhinged - it's like at the moment he's about to go for the nuclear option he realizes that it's better to go for a 'honey attracts flies' approach and gearshifts into the absolute melting lushness of 'right side of my brain'
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
first of all, you could argue that the payoff is the end of "right side of my brain", which means that it just takes really long to get to
BUT
i think the part in "fancy" before the rap where the instrumental is really swelling up and the-dream starts scatting (lol) and there's the screwed vocal ("all we do is, we spend this money") is a great & sorta subtle climax, then it all drops out for his rap so there's a tension release -- idk that part was always pretty epic to me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
like my fav. part about the last 30 secs is the way those deep drums come in w/ like 10 seconds left while there are all these like 2-3 synth runs in the background - but his voice still remains measured, control, and the last line is "but even when I used to rock polos I was fancy..." and that's a capitulation, not a sign of victory
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
the swooping strings are the release imo, yeah, the part w/ the double-time rap
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
2-3 second synth runs, that should say
'right side of my brain' is the comedown, not the release
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
just realized this listening back the other night but i love how "fancy" evokes a sound that i think is sorta stereotypical of, like, a parisisan square? jazzy woodwinds & whatever,.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
svelte
― (gr8080), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:10 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark
no!! "right side of my brain" is tense as hell. that's where the "explosive release" is. the last minute of that song is the heaviest part of the album.
the release is mr. yeah/kelly's 12 play, where he is back to fucking
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
get outta here grady
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
er, the comedown is mr. yeah etc
cant decide if im more frustrated by rong opinions here or in the politics thread
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
probably here
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:12 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
this is weird to me, but i think it's because i would prefer an album of mr. yeahs + kelly's 12-play to what love v. money actually is.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol. okay just looking at the lyrics, 'fancy' is a 6 minute long epic where the-dream is just about to capitulate to this girl and just about to devote himself to her, before he pulls out (lol) at the very last second and takes a step back in 'right side of my brain'
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:08 PM (5 minutes ago)
yeah for me the release has always been in parts - starts with the screwed vocal, then the rap, then finally when the drums come in
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe I interrupted my catching up with TSJ to argue these points
billy cunningham is not happy w you jokers
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:11 PM (3 minutes ago)
^^otm, "mr yeah" is the comedown which is why i do not consider it part of the suite
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:14 PM (2 minutes ago)
the album you're looking for is love/hate
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
i know, that one is the best!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
& just for the record i tend to get overly critical about this stuff, i mean LvM was my favorite album of 2009
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
mr. yeah is a victory lap btw, not a comedown
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm yeah
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
well then the comedown is "kelly's 12 play"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yessss
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
kelly's 12-play is just great.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
i think "kelly's 12 play" has my fav dream lyrics ever
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
oooh oooh oooh-in it!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad we just generated another 200 posts about the-dream
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha this is the only kind of ilm posting i feel like i can participate in, enthusiastic fandom
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
if only ilx posts about the-dream were a currency
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
kelly's 12 play is exactly an example of how his improvisational lyrics were sometimes a benefit rather than weakness. "...check for scratches / get up on my mattress" is like my fav couplet of '09
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
so if kellys 12 play is the comedown what does that make let me see that booty
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
a bonus track
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
i was gonna say "waking up at 4 am to go vomit in the toilet"
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
lol i thought i established that 'let me see the booty' was the litmus test for dream stannery
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
that was true until '1977' came out
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think i have listened to "let me see the booty" once
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
i listened to all three of the most recent albums the other night & i still think "let me see the booty" is fucking great
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
i think we are all still stans though
i consider myself a 'love hate' stan more than a the-dream stan
or a the-dream as song factory stan vs. the-dream as auteur stan
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
^^^his next album title
"kelly's 12 play" is great as a closer but "luv songs" is even better and love/hate would have been completely perfect if it had ended with it.
― prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
i could do without "livin' a lie" that much but "mama"!!!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
love/hate already has a perfect closer http://www.teslatheband.com/forums/images/smilies/Gestures/userArmsCrossed.gif xp
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
wow, since when did people like "mama"
― prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
'mama' is awesome fuiud
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
^^^^^^^^
― Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
"Mama" is maybe the anti-"Let Me See The Booty" in a litmus testy sense.
been waiting to hear tim f's thoughts on 1977, actually
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't downloaded it yet. I figure if I approach it super-casually I might like it more.
― Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
i can't even comprehend actively repping for "mama" above "let me see the booty", it's like none of you enjoyed crunk'n'b
― lex pretend, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
Trying to associate LMSTB with "Goodies", "Oh", "I Like That", "Yeah" etc. only tarnishes the otherwise glistening reputation of those tunes.
― Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
that song is like 4 years late & generic as shit
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
generic isn't nec a bad thing
― lex pretend, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
The release of "Fancy" is the key-change chord at the very end that leads into "Right Side of My Brain".
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:59 (twelve years ago) link
4 years late and actively annoying as shit. xp
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
*drudge siren*
http://twitter.com/#!/MrTeriusNash
― k3vin k., Monday, 5 September 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
HAHAHA!!!
― D-40, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
haha ren otm
― swagliacci (The Reverend), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
lmao at it inspiring a stream of responses
― D-40, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
when i saw that i assumed there was some back n forth but no, those are all a response to one tweet lmao
any links to interviews with Terius? new and/or old?besides the p4k one?
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/08/the-dream-terius-nash-1977
― dayo, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― D-40, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
MrTeriusNash Terius NashI'm completely taken by how many uneducated and emotionally Damaged Artist there are in the music business.
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 October 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'm completely taken by how many people who consider themselves educated don't know how to pluralize the word "artists"
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
artistses?
― lucas, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:47 (twelve years ago) link
anyone still listen to this cd
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
"cd"
― turfin' bird (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:51 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
this is a weird measure for me when the album still has only been out for like a month or two -- i usually listen to something a bunch over a week or two weeks and then it falls out of the rotation for a bit until i decide to revisit it -- i just listened to the beyonce album for the first time in a few months. if i break that cycle pretty consistently with an album then i know it's like... top 3 of the year material for me.
― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
man i really wish i could get into this
― P-NASTY (tpp), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
only listened to this once
― Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
i still listen to wedding crasher a lot
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
^this
― ⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:55 (twelve years ago) link
reference to a "cd" made me briefly panic that the album had dropped without me noticing
had forgotten 1977 existed, who really cares
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
couldn't do it more than three times, feels kinda flimsyi like dude with more bombast and production and scope somehow
― loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link
terius doing records w/o los and tricky is basically like a guy who's only at his best with his backing band going solo
― some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link
I like "Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out" better than anything on 1977.
― Evan R, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link
OTM, i was under the impression they were on 1977
― ⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
you like those songs better than anything on 1977, which you have not heard, seeing as you thought both songs were on 1977
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
no i mean i was under that impression prior to 1977 being released OKAY JORDAN???
thinking back it was probably just because we used this thread to discuss 1977
― ⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:56 (twelve years ago) link
i thought
:-)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
lol lamer
tbh tho fmbo is pretty much better than anything on 1077 and dream should take a chill pill before realeasing any actual new music
― MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
jordan, u on a hella "OH REALLY, EN GARDE, RIPOSTE, PARRY, THRUST, AHA!" kick at the moment, huh
― google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link
nah, i was just fuckin with grady
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 06:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.makeupandbeautyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kors-love-ya-boo.jpg
― google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
dream should take a chill pill before realeasing any actual new music
his twitter makes him seem kinda crazy atm
― tpp, Saturday, 29 October 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Hmmmm
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash should be done all in 2012 "RADIOKILLA RECORDS WHY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE FUCK WE DO!" THELOVECULT MY FANS ARE THE REALEST PEOPLE ON EARTH8 hours ago Favorite Retweet ReplyMrTeriusNash Terius Nash so i want to try to do as much as i can in 2012! so Love IV, LOVE V,1984, Nikki and a Movie With my NIGG @BigSean includin a soundtrack.....8 hours ago MrTeriusNash Terius Nash BTW Started to Concept "LOVE FIVE". should start on it in March. Love IV date is MARCH 20th! i want to take a real Vacation in 2013....
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash so i want to try to do as much as i can in 2012! so Love IV, LOVE V,1984, Nikki and a Movie With my NIGG @BigSean includin a soundtrack.....8 hours ago
MrTeriusNash Terius Nash BTW Started to Concept "LOVE FIVE". should start on it in March. Love IV date is MARCH 20th! i want to take a real Vacation in 2013....
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
i just read a lil about 1984 which i guess we can hope is about the-dream as a romantic seven year old
― Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:45 (twelve years ago) link
branching out from the drake thread, on the topic of terius:
MONDAY, JUNE 8, 2009Tite Ass TeriusNow quickly before I get to like more REAL parts of the show I must mention that Terius and his tite ass was there. Yo I love his songs I own both his cds like I play em as if there ain't other music sometimes... but why da fuck is ya man always dressin so tite? U think it's cuz he got the face of a fat kid? Just a hush puppy away from bein a lardo so he wears skinny shit to show he ain't fat? Or like what is it? For real? He is NOT buff his voice is NOT masculine so he don't need to wear nut huggers everywhere he goes..This performance was better than his performance at Mary and Jay-Zs Heart of the City Tour last year tho.. Goodnite Terius! Call leticia yo beautician....Posted by PRiMa at 7:31 PM
Tite Ass Terius
Now quickly before I get to like more REAL parts of the show I must mention that Terius and his tite ass was there. Yo I love his songs I own both his cds like I play em as if there ain't other music sometimes... but why da fuck is ya man always dressin so tite? U think it's cuz he got the face of a fat kid? Just a hush puppy away from bein a lardo so he wears skinny shit to show he ain't fat? Or like what is it? For real? He is NOT buff his voice is NOT masculine so he don't need to wear nut huggers everywhere he goes..This performance was better than his performance at Mary and Jay-Zs Heart of the City Tour last year tho.. Goodnite Terius! Call leticia yo beautician....
Posted by PRiMa at 7:31 PM
http://primazthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/06/tite-ass-terius.html
― lil jon & vangelis (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
eek
http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/new-music-the-dream-roc/
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
!!!
AMAZING
TERIUS BACK.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
on some utter nerd shit he reused, like, that scalding hot water synth synth tone from "freaky freaky" that makes me think of 112 & shit for some reason
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
thought this bump was gonna be for that song w/ fuckin big sean
― we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
but i'm glad he went back to that really glistening, golden sound of "rockin that shit" & "fila" but went in a different direction w/ it
it really sounds like something that would be on a theoretical second electrik red album
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
another one or the one off 1977?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:15 PM (6 minutes ago)
it's very 2009-period, it reminds me of a lot memoirs actually
― k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it actually sounds a lot like "the impossible"
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
does him releasing an actually-good song mean some ppl here will walk back the breathless praise of 1977
― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
it's a bit more... sexy than a lot of memoirs -- it's reminds me more of, like, "heartbreaker"-era mariah or something
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
/troll
― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
wait who liked 1977?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
me
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
this song kind of makes it even more obvious how lackluster 1977 was tbh
I wonder if he produced this himself, since I felt that his production and the lack of a Los/Tricky influence is what hurt 1977 and, to a lesser extent, LoveKing.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
you were on some "it's good for what it is" shit tho right xp
― k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
though to be totally fair I listened to 1977 like twice so maybe I didn't really give it a shot. His music is usually very immediate to me.
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
― k3vin k., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
more or less, yes, esp cuz i pegged it as a one-off detour
if anything i think this more embarrasses ppl who were calling "love king" on par w/ his first two albums
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:15 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
oh i had seen that he put out a video as 'the-dream f/ big sean' and didn't realize it was from the 'terius nash' album (or that the video is older than i thought)
― we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yet still better than 1977
― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
i had to troll back
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
Can't find it. Has it disappeared?
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
should still be here? http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/new-music-the-dream-roc
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
PUT YOUR LIPS UP ON MY LIPSWHEN I DIP YOU DIP WE DIP
― The Reverend, Thursday, 5 January 2012 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah
― tpp, Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think this embarrasses anyone, jesus you people and your taste chess
lol @ the artwork
http://radiokillarecords.com/roc_files/The-Dream_ROC.jpg
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:51 (twelve years ago) link
i like this and it's better than anything on 1977 (obv) but it's blowing me away exactly as much as "love king" did when it dropped (ie it's not, though it's nice enough and i'll happily listen to it a ton)
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:52 (twelve years ago) link
Well that just dampened my anticipation.
― Tim F, Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
the second half of this is pretty nice, kinda in the vain of whatever the segue in FMBO/bodywork was called was. the song is kinda autopilot though.
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
kinda tmi at the end
nice wailing guitar solo tho
also, way to go for being rich
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:49 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
lol who thinks this
― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:15 (twelve years ago) link
cant find the poll but i think a lot of ppl
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think that
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
always forget how many crazies like the-dream
this is kinda nice but feels pretty underproduced, like the b-side to a b-side
― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
Electrik Red - How to Be a Lady: Volume One (2009) 18The-Dream - Love/Hate (2007) 14The-Dream - Love Vs. Money (2009) 14The-Dream - Love King (2010) 6Mariah Carey - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (2009) 3Ciara - Basic Instinct (2010) 0
― Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
"fila" through to "abyss" is an astounding run that easily counteracts whatever flaws it has
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
shawty is da shit through mama is an even more astounding run and plus, has no flaws
― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
the flaws on both those albums are outside those runs (well "mama" is entirely a flaw but whatever)
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
i'd take "yamaha" alone over anything on L/H
i was just trolling deej, you guys
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:45 (twelve years ago) link
have listened to this three times and besides a nice minute-ish intro it kinda drags and sinks beneath the waves
― tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, January 5, 2012 7:26 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is why you are insane
― Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
As Terius songs go this sounds so formulaic and tossed out in five minutes it feels like I've written it in some kind of lazy parody.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is a bit slight no doubt, but i really appreciate the overall vibe/style and it's not like a lead single or something so i'm cool with it
― k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Can't disagree that this sounds tossed-off, but isn't that part of his charm a lot of the time? Even his best, most-realized tracks have a just-fucking-around quality to them. My favs are the ones where he sounds like he's just having too much fun to edit himself
― Evan R, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
it's not like a lead single or something so i'm cool with it
does anyone know specifically what it is?, i didn't get it from radiokilla & can't quite summon the effort to get involved in the shoe of the month thing. i guess he's working on the next dream record but most of what he does seems to just come out of some kind of last-minute-homework session, so it's interesting to know if it's a song on the record or what
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
it's the first single from The Love IV
― The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
so happy "the love intravenous" is back on the table as an album title
― we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
huh, okay. there was the kells song also kicking around, maybe that'll be a lil more exciting
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, January 5, 2012 12:58 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
exactly. i feel like there are two completely opposite types of dream fans or something
― Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, 6 January 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
this song rules, the only weakness is maybe the vocal performance on the voice comes off a bit thin? but definitely a welcome return of grandiose arrangements & fun silly ideas. to me this songwriting is on the level of the upbeat jams of LvM
― flopson, Friday, 6 January 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
you call this a grandiose arrangement? really? "sex intelligent" and "she needs my love" and the "love vs money"s are grandiose arrangements, not this.
i love the squelchy bass on this but that's about it for ideas really.
terius' casual, tossed-off side works best when he's writing for other artists ("touch my body" and "so good" spring to mind) but for himself he excels when he's really making an effort to push things out there.
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:10 (twelve years ago) link
to me this songwriting is on the level of the upbeat jams of LvM
c'mon, something like "mr yeah" was full of hooks and one-liners and quotable wit, this doesn't have a single lyric that doesn't sound like a first-take placeholder
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
i agree that this isn't up there with the grandiose arrangements of love king but that's exactly why i like it!
― tpp, Friday, 6 January 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah but this just feels so perfuctory, like he can't be bothered to stretch himself, it's about as Terius-by-numbers as you can get. Even the guitar freakout at the end feels like it's there because Terius couldn't think of anything else to do. I don't want to listen to sex jams where it feels like the singer is looking at the clock.
― Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 10:02 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think this sounds 'tossed off' at all, and i think your feeling about the guitar part at the end is the same feeling i had about all Terius, which is that after a certain point there's definitely a sense of diminishing returns -- UNLESS the songwriting is there. Which, in this case, I really think it is. I don't think this is particularly 'tossed off' at all, except in the way that often his melodies do seem to come from some kind of improvisational compositional style. but for this most part, this seems like one of his more well-crafted moments
― Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, 6 January 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link
alright i'm fully behind this now, the hook is just so lush and massive
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
what hook?
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
the part where he sings the song's title repeatedly?
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh that's righzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:39 (twelve years ago) link
this is still pretty grandiose just less serious
― flopson, Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link
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― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
this song sounds like a somewhat promising demo
hey yall are about a year late jumping off the dream bandwagon, fwiw
"what hook" i mean...there's a hook there, use your ears
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
haha k3v otm
― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:57 (twelve years ago) link
lol, you guys are the one acting like this is a return to form from 1977
― bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
this isn't like, one of his best 20 songs or anything, but it's got a tune and the production is there, it's an encouraging sign given the majority of his solo shit over the past year and a good song in its own right
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
bingo
― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:04 (twelve years ago) link
it's got a tune and the production is there
settin the bar high
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
well so far you're refusing to acknowledge that either exists. go to bed, homes
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:07 (twelve years ago) link
i don't even dislike this thing, nor am i off the teriuswagon, but it's not even as good as "body work" let alone "fuck my brains out"
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:11 (twelve years ago) link
smh
"body work" is the nadir of post-golden age thin, tuneless terius
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:18 (twelve years ago) link
I just think this song is enough to imply that his new project is going to be in the same vein and maybe as good as Love King. This is good news for people that thought '77 was an OH NO DONT DO THAT moment. Its a bit of a relief, like ok he hasn't lost it... phew. Its a serviceable jam that may get a little more praise than it should due to the above reasons.
― rolling regional thug waffle (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
^this seems really otm
― Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
i think that's fairly true.
― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
hope this is better than love king
― regional smug (flopson), Monday, 9 January 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
Don't we all.
― Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
love king was dope fuiud
― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:12 (twelve years ago) link
I love it too, still want this new one to better it though.
― Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
Although my post didnt indicate that fact :/
― Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
At this point we need some kind of convoluted venn diagram to cover all the various narc of sd positioning on the-dream's ouvre.
― Tim F, Monday, 9 January 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
fuiut(hink) love king isn't his worst album
still waiting for finney and shipley to deliver their verdicts on this one
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:37 (twelve years ago) link
Still like it even though it is his worst one (besides that other one)
― Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
saying its his 'worst album' (i assume you're excluding 1977 which is 10x worse) is arguable at best -- there's no universe in which it's a definitive loser in that race. imho.
― somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Monday, 9 January 2012 07:51 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I love all three, just like Lk a tiny bit less than the other 2 atm. I pretend 77 isnt there.
― Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
― guapele (The Reverend), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
i do not really have the facts to back this but this song kinda blows imo. it's satisfying that it's occupying that kind of sonic zone he excels in, but i feel like the song isn't even there; he usually - on the dream records - has such distinctive phrasing, part of what makes so many of the insane metaphor couplets so memorable, & this just feels like autopilot. wasn't surm talking about the uselessness of 'roc'-centric jams, recently. also rooting for something because it ~might~ ~possibly~ ~portend~ a return to form just reminds me of being 16 and being really invested in when my favourite shitty band was gonna get good again. also it kinda reminds me of justin bieber, idk. i like the first minute of the weird squishy outro but the song is really lazy to me & the only satisfaction i can get out of it is that it is the-dream & i like the way those records feel.
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
tbf dream has written a couple bieber hits, lol
good post tho
― rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
new song - is it brostep?
http://youtu.be/309kBjoKkac
― the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Saturday, 28 January 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link
I actually kind of dig this
― dayo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
excited to hear a new sonic palette
yeah def.
― the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'm having a hard time with this one, sadly. It just sounds like a YouTube video that's constantly rebuffering.
― Evan R, Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
he's had demos leak before... wouldn't be surprised if this one was too
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
pretty
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
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yeah i quite liked the palette of this & then zoned out slightly, but i'd be psyched if it was a demo
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
not feeling it
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 29 January 2012 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 January 2012 07:20 (twelve years ago) link
maybe it's just a rough demo
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 January 2012 07:21 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/02/interview-the-dream-new-album-pusha-t-the-weeknd-frank-ocean
― Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:45 (twelve years ago) link
that url has me concerned
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
he's producing on the Pusha T album. The rest is just asking about his influence on those dudes etc
― Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
if you get to interview the-dream and your THIRD QUESTION is "i want to know what you think of the the weeknd" you need to get the fuck out of the-dream's office
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
There's a video for ROC now toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6ia6wk_iKM
― Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
from what i've seen he's an pretty bad performer but i'm excited that he's going on tour
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:46 PM (13 minutes ago)
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:00 (twelve years ago) link
god, this interview
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
"wow i have a face to face interview with the-dream, let me ask him about every hot new singer"
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
complex needs to do a street fashion listicle on the most horrendous glasses/shades they've photographed musicians wearing, with the pic at the top of that interview at #1
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
the ROC video is relatively undorky by his standards
― Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
now granted i would've spent the entire interview secretly gathering material for my 33 1/3 pitch on the-dream's entire 2009 output, but still
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
I will totally pre-order that book.
― Evan R, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
oh man all of us better be cited like crazy in such a book
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
"As Dr. Shipley noted on Saturday, January 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, the concept of 'falltime' is entirely a creation of Nash's imagination."
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
there's a radio dj here that still throws "nikki" into mix show sets now and again, i think he's just trolling me
― some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
he must be
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
would buy a book consisting of photos of terius looking un-cool (aka every single one)
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
(23) 'Falltime or Failtime: Persistent Myth-Takes of Seasonality in the Work of Terius Nash' by Dr Al B Shipley (Boston, Ilxelsior Press, 2011).
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
shockingly unpretentious and pretty fun video
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
The song just seems like such a non-starter as a single. It's so slight it's barely there, and it runs five and a half minutes. Even in a radio edit, could any station really play this in regular rotation?
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 03:59 (twelve years ago) link
no but the last dream single you could say that about was like 6 tries ago
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not sure he has a place on rap/r&b radio right now
and i think that says more about the radio than it does about the-dream
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think his inability to score a solo hit is an inherently bad thing, of course. It just makes me sad with a song like ROC, which seems to try so hard for radio acceptance but just completely whiffs even as it panders
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm i don't see it that way
i guess it doesn't really sound like pandering to radio to me... it's very hardcore r&b which seems to have a smaller and smaller slice of playlists on r&b sections nowadays. it sounds like something off the electrik red or mariah albums, both of which were failures by their own standards. i'm sure he's aware of this.
i mean if he REALLY wanted to pander he could call up trey songz or take some a song he wrote for bieber and try and sing it himself... i think he seems more or less content using his capital at def jam to keep writing stuff that sounds like dream solo stuff, popular now or not
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:22 (twelve years ago) link
I guess will.i.am and company have just so completely co-opted the word "rock" that I immediately associate it with the lowest common denominator now.
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
[BTW, Terius is doing the U-Stream thing right now, working on a song that sounds great http://www.ustream.tv/channel/radio-killa-tv]
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link
holy hell there's someone in this chat using the name DrakeGuzzler1
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
♫ deej has a girlfriend, deej has a girlfriend ♫
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
Let's be honest tho, ROC kinda sucks
― Number None, Friday, 24 February 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
i've grown to totally love it
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
the bridge is one of my favorite things that he's done in a long while
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
ROC's grown on me, but I haven't listened to it next to any other Terius stuff so maybe that's why? I love the interpolation of Da Dip.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
i completely forgot that "roc" existed
i no longer own it thx to hard drive death and i don't feel compelled to redownload it
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvSFjXkpgs0
also
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 24 February 2012 11:41 (twelve years ago) link
hulkshare for that new dream, seems to be at a different pitch than that youtube
http://hulkshare.com/3xgzpy6ybvgp
― pearsonic, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:05 (twelve years ago) link
Pitchfork Official SXSW Showcase:
Doors at 7:00 p.m.
8:00 p.m. Fiona Apple9:15 p.m. Charli XCX10:00 p.m. Purity Ring10:45 p.m. Grimes11:45 p.m. Nicolas Jaar12:45 a.m. The-Dream
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:12 (twelve years ago) link
what the fuck is fiona apple doing at the bottom of that bill >:(
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link
also full tour sched is outlol that i had seen "the dream" listed as playing in new haven like a wk ago but i didnt think it was really the-dream !
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:15 (twelve years ago) link
I cannot really imagine wanting to go and see him live, I imagine he'd be kinda terrible?
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link
that does seem 2 be what ppl say...idk i might still go just out of curiousity
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
are you gonna go see him?
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:46 (twelve years ago) link
well either i will or wont, those are the options as i see them
― johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
excellent
― flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
he was okay when i saw him live - not mind-blowing or anything but not embarrassing. i guess as a support act (to keri hilson lol) there's not much room to fuck up, you just get up there and sing your songs and get off again
― lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, the fact that he was singing great songs helped, obv
Roc is just alright on first listen - need to buy it when it comes out to get a better handle in it
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
Kinda wanna stay away from SXSW but I might try to see this
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:42 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, he's by no means terrible live. I think I saw him between Bobby Valentino, Keri Hilson and Keyshia Cole, and if nothing else he was better than Bobby Valentino.
My most vivid memory from the show is the crowd sitting down during "Love vs. Money."
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link
"Kill The Lights" is really bad; the production is just anemic :( This is the great single he's naming his tour after?
― Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:10 (twelve years ago) link
Lloyd was actually really good when i saw him live
― D-40, Sunday, 26 February 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link
I think I saw him between Bobby Valentino, Keri Hilson and Keyshia Cole, and if nothing else he was better than Bobby Valentino.
think we must have seen the same tour! iirc bobby v was much more of the showman. i missed keyshia because that's when i was doing the interview.
terius apparently working with tulisa now, huh.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
Keyshia's show was surprisingly high-production. Her stage looked like a West Side Story set.
Lloyd has killed it live every time I've seen him.
― Evan R, Sunday, 26 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
im glad i went 2 thisgot there a lil late cuz of a dumb #letmehelpyouwithyourgirlproblem & he was just finishing falsetto; not sure how many songs i misseddream is such a ham i was lol'ing so muchhe played fancy and said hes never performed it b4after the awz build to the drums @ the end it turned into like death metal drum fills & dream just strutting it was so absurd
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
shit, was this in ct?
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
lol yea dude new haven
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago) link
damn, where?
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
he's playing here 2nite but i'm not going
pretty sure he sux live and I hate the venue
― Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
toads place xp
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link
duh. gah
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, as much as it's possible to perform his songs w/ a live band, it's not that bad
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:29 (twelve years ago) link
altho they were wanding ppl to get in, i dont remember them doing that when i saw yo la tengo there
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:40 (twelve years ago) link
― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this was hilarious how he sang/emphasized it
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
fuck, i forgot he was on tour. i need to get tickets.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
oh dear
http://rapradar.com/2012/03/13/the-weeknd-responds-to-the-dream/
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
my god what the fuck is he talking about
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
lol srsly
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus Iz Bakk says:Tuesday, March 13 2012 at 10:17 AM EST
I cannot believe the way these guys write. It’s incomprehensible and downright retarded. Twitter or not, a basic understanding of commas and apostrophes will suffice.
It’s disgusting really.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:23 (twelve years ago) link
oh lord
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
please let's keep beef culture out of r&b
that was the saddest thing i read all month
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
someone needs to tell the weeknd to kiss the ring imo
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
I just wish people wouldn’t say things like that, because these days, everybody is influenced by everybody (and let’s keep it real, his first album had so many attempts at the brotha trying to sound like Prince).
http://madamenoire.com/145453/really-the-dream-says-rb-dudes-have-been-trying-to-steal-his-sound/
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
Yes! Future Love IV music video, Rakim-style!
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
Nash didn't name names but Tesfaye got tweet-combative anyway?
― Andy K, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Nash just said he was thinking of 4 people. So yep, getting defensive I guess.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
6-12 months before they collaborate on a track?
― Andy K, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
So who are the other 3 he had in mind?
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Ocean was probably one. Miguel, maybe and Trey Songz, plus Weeknd.
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
that's just naming the only four male breakout r&b singers of the past few years
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
i mean maybe he did actually mean it that way but...
four probably wasn't an exact number
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, depends. Hard to say if it's something he's been ruminating on mathematical-like! Or just in the frustrated general sense...
― MikoMcha, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
“I haven’t done a show in close to two years, and ever since then, there’s like four n****s who sound like me now. I’m just being honest. I remember before 2007, nobody knew what to do with this s**t.”
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
"like four"
It just sounds like kind of a failed brag to me. "I'm super influential. There are, like, four people who sound like me."
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
Diss silliness aside, though, this concert looks insanely fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATBaqqj4Ya0
Gonna have to check this tour out, especially if he's playing "Right Side of My Brain."
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
0_o that girl onstage during "purple kisses" looks about 14
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
k somehow got weirder
I know... first time I've seen an audience volunteer look absolutely disgusted to be a part of one of those on-stage seduction routines.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link
fuck if he's singing "purple kisses" i'm gonna be at that show
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
That could be you up there, J0rdan!
― Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
i'll prob be the only person who knows all the words to that song
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
#lovecult
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:30 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol rme. the girl onstage knew the words!
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure the audience at a Dream show is going to have a sizeable contingent of obsessive nerds
― Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
pretty sure i can sing love/hate front 2 back. just sayin
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
xp show i was at was legit 75% women, with a sizeable contingent of dudes just chillin in the back who maybe had been dragged their by their girl & actively trying to look disinterested
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
Man. Haven't spun L/H in too long. Time to bust out Purple Kisses and/or Luv Songs.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
understanding this made years of trawling through the-dream's twitter account & scanning terrible don draper jpg strewn messageboards for hulkshare links totally worth it, ty
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:52 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i would take this classic post further and say that anyone who heard The-Dream's comment about other new R&B acts sounding like him and immediately thought of The-Weeknd needs to gtfo, his influence is all over actual radio acts
― some dude, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
Tesfaye/Weekend thought it was about him
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
Weeknd
yes, he's one of the people that needs to gtfo
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link
no one posted this yet?!
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-dream-previews-seductive-new-album-20120314#ixzz1p89dicEk
"Foreplay": A nostalgic mid-tempo number with electric guitars and thumping percussion that begs for comparisons to The-Dream's freaky-R&B forebear, R. Kelly.
"Equestrian": Ginuwine's "Pony" gets a redux with pounding drums. "I love the way you ride/Equestrian," The-Dream croons, his falsetto blending effortlessly over the beat. He even toys with his lower register, a welcome distraction from the song's hackneyed "Giddy up" outro. During this listening session, The-Dream closed his eyes and began winding and shimmying by himself to the track.
"Loving You": In which The-Dream loves so hard, it becomes downright aggressive. Vocals, synths, guitars and yearning lyrics undulate together to the brink of insanity, and yet it never sounds cacophonous. "I can't take all the credit, the cocaine had a lot to do with it," The-Dream mused afterward, presumably joking.
"Slow It Down": "I know they ain't gonna play this on Top 40 radio," The-Dream dares on this strip club-ready song about rolling, grinding and myriad other forms of gyration.
"Divine," featuring Mary J. Blige: Booming theatrics lead off one of the album's most introspective cuts. "As the seats recline/This is divine," The-Dream murmurs, contemplating success. Blige provides only ancillary vocal coos over lush violins, creating an airy effect.
"Paid," featuring Gucci Mane: Kickstarted with a sample from the gangster flick New Jack City (Nino Brown's famous quote: "The fruit of our hard work/Am I my brother's keeper?"), "Paid" is a requisite hip-hop banger about balling with just $100 in your pocket. Gucci Mane delivers a formidable verse: "If I could/I'd give a hug to the money," he croaks. "I think I was doing that while I was doing crack," The-Dream laughed while playing the track.
"Katrina": A masculine counterpart to Beyoncé's "Irreplaceable," this chest-pounding, unfinished song encourages men to move on from bad relationships. "This is strictly for my niggas," The-Dream croons – though, to be fair, the women present found the song to be irresistible.
"Talk That Shit": Cue the subliminal shots! "Talk That Shit" is a veiled jab at new-generation R&B weirdos who have been heavily influenced by The-Dream's style. "Y'all niggas so disrespectful remixing my own shit," he blasts before jumping into a medley of his hits, from "Fancy" to "Shawty Is a 10." Although The-Dream wouldn't reveal any specific names, chatter during the session implied that "Bed" singer J. Holiday and The Weeknd were possible targets.
"Y'all": "If this ain't the realest thing I ever wrote," sings The-Dream on this markedly sensitive, vulnerable number, where he spills his guts about his oft-beleaguered reputation as an artist, father and man. The self-anointed "Superman" admits that, yes, even he has flaws – "Sometimes even my cape needs dry cleaning" – before making peace with himself, concluding, "Crucify me if you want, but I won't stop loving y'all."
― handy ban (lou), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
thank you lou!
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link
album sounds sufficiently hilarious!
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
i had almost forgotten this was happening! when is it due?
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
"presumably joking"
― goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link
Although The-Dream wouldn't reveal any specific names, chatter during the session implied that "Bed" singer J. Holiday and The Weeknd were possible targets.
What about "Baby" singer Justin Bieber or "Just Like Me" singer Jamie Foxx?
― Andy K, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link
remember when the-dream was beefing with chris brown before it was cool
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
When he embarrassed him at the Freaky Forebears Waterpark dunk tank.
― Andy K, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link
I'm shocked the album exists in something resembling a finished state this far out from its scheduled release. Usually when I review R&B albums, I get the sense they were hastily finalized about two weeks before they hit shelves, if that.
― Evan R, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
really? i haven't gotten that impression w/ most major label albums, a lot of them seem to be sitting on the shelf for a minute and then get a few of-the-minute rappers thrown on at the last minute
― some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link
is the writer sure that the lyric "sometimes even my cape needs dry cleaning" is a Superman reference?
a superman that hoe reference
― The Reverend, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
wow i can deal with mary j and gucci for sure. no drake? big sean? etc? please let this be true
― been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
During this listening session, The-Dream closed his eyes and began winding and shimmying by himself to the track.
This is amazing
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
his weird self-imploding ripple dance is still playing in my head when i close my eyes, since i saw him do it to fast car on that tour video a couple of days back.
― Evan R, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:06 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm!, it is encouraging, particularly because the view we got into his process when he made his free record made it sound super flexible. i mean i guess it isn't finished but at least there are big chunks done that he's ready to go play out with.
also the weeknd said this guy looks like the hamburglar, feel like this should be posted itt
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 16 March 2012 11:44 (twelve years ago) link
April 17, apparently.
― Andy K, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
He looks like the hamburglar every day
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:40 (twelve years ago) link
"I'm going to work with Shakira at some point over the next couple of months," says The-Dream, "and she was always on my wish list, because she's another one of those females, a great female artist." As for his dream of working with Chris Martin of Coldplay? "That's just a Jay-Z phone call away," he says.
http://www.billboard.com/column/sxsw/video-the-dream-talks-love-iv-shakira-at-1006490752.story#/column/sxsw/video-the-dream-talks-love-iv-shakira-at-1006490752.story
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't been able to shake the impression of The-Dream as Jazze Pha's mini-me since the "Shawty Is A 10" video
dude didn't even have any real radio hits even as a writer for a year or two there, but "Love On Top" and "Birthday Cake" changed that, maybe he can stop his commercial tailspin after all
― some dude, Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, he's lucky that something off that beyonce album finally hit
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
So I saw The-Dream at the Fillmore Silver Spring last night, outside Washington DC. He had a drummer and 2 keyboard/synth players (one of whom also played bass). The-Dream alternated between singing live, and singing along or lip-synching with pre-recorded vocal tracks or letting the crowd sing while he asked for more Patrone. The show lasted for just an hour( $33 admission). He did dance and strut energetically. He's in tour mode: was wearing the same Oakland Raiders cap, black sunglasses, black jacket, and Roc-a-Fella Records necklace I read that he wore in NYC at SOBs.He again proclaimed himself "the realest" out there, and grumbled more about the fakes who have imitated him in the last two years. Much of the crowd did not seem enthused with the cover of "Beat that p*ssy up". I didn't like it. It was alternately sad and comical watching him go overboard in his attempt to be a swaggering 2012 era foul-mouthed star, or maybe that was part of his Marvin Gaye for 2012 mad at my ex shtick. I forgot the name of the other mad at his ex song he did. "Walking on the Moon," "Shawty", "Falsetto," "Kill the Lights," "Rockin' that ..." all went over better. He had a woman singer come onstage and do a song and a half(the latter was part of Kanye's "All of the Lights" that I think he assisted in writing).
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link
^^ valuable dispatch from somewhere outside the borders of Teriustan
― some dude, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
as a recovering terius stan i have no real desire to see him live. his twitter makes him seem like a clown
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
Just realized how badly Chris Brown's "Strip" bites "Rockin' That Shit."
― Evan R, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-dream-at-fillmore-silver-spring/2012/03/18/gIQAFBtDLS_story.html
The freelancer reviewing him for the Washington Post was now wowed either. She and Caramanica in the NY Times were harsh on Nash's vocals. I'm less concerned with him not having Al Green's range and more with what he was singing, his cliched between song patter, and with his reliance on the backing vocal tracks. He's a great songwriter though.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link
gotta say i'm leaning towards becoming a "recovering terius stan" too. not saying he'll be useless from here on in obv, i'm sure there'll be great stuff to come, but the god period, the imperial phase, is over
― lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Away from a stage and his twitter, he might still be able to write and record strong material
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:42 (twelve years ago) link
that's how it usually works, yeah
― some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
i had an absolute blast at the show tonight
― come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:51 (eleven years ago) link
i think we were lucky that we saw him after he had played a few weeks of dates... he obv can't really sing but he was great on stage and the band was good, none of the tracks sounded like ass or were turned into linkin park tracks.
the set was pretty heavy on LH & LVM, i don't think he played any album tracks off LK, tho he did do one of the ones of 1977 that i don't remember. singles got the best responses but like when he dropped into the rap on "fancy" the entire crowd was spitting w/ him, it was kinda nuts.
also he did "i luv your girl" -> loverance which was hilarious and pretty awesome
anyway it wasn't a mindblowing show but it was really fun just to be in a big room full of people that knew all the songs and all the words and it was appropriately goofy and all that
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link
also he ended w/ "rockin that shit" which was prob the biggest response then he went off for a sec and came back for "let me see the booty" which was pretty hype. but i love that song.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:01 (eleven years ago) link
Kicking myself for not driving down to this show tonight; totally forgot about it :(
― Evan R, Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:35 (eleven years ago) link
so weird to think of him closing w/ his biggest hit and then encoring with the flop that the other song was a face-saving recovery from
― internet somebody (some dude), Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
yes, very weird
― dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
it was an incredible act of defiance
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
I'm always shocked when setlists aren't structured in reverse order of chart performance
― Evan R, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
he came on stage and did a bit of "love vs money" ("when love is a problem" repeated) then went right into "shawty is a 10" which got the crowd going, then he did "fast car" -> 90 seconds or so of "nikki"... then i think he did "kill the lights" and let casha do that cover from 1977. then i think he did "falsetto" (while miming getting head w/ the mic as his dick, obv)
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
he also did "falsetto" in the middle of the set, did the "gangsta luv" and "throw it in the bag" hooks, did "roc your body" (this sounded good) "walkin on the moon" (this sounded surprisingly great), "purple kisses"... was surprised that he didn't do "yamaha" tho
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
also all the house music was songs that he'd written for other artists
then i think he did "falsetto" (while miming getting head w/ the mic as his dick, obv)
― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
having a lot of trouble imagining how this could happen
― dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
yea 'walking on the moon' was a highlight i recall too
kinda pissed i didnt get a 'let me see the booty' "encore", otherwise hes prob doin the same set everywhere more or less
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think he's been doing the same set
i was with some friends that had been checking the setlists and once he finished w/ "rockin that shit" they were like "that's it, he's done" but then he came out for "let me see the booty" so i guess it was something he was feeling last night or w/e
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
he held the mic at his crotch like it was his dick and sorta like... idk slowly humped the air while moving his hand on the mic. it was bizarre, obv.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
o - who was doing the singing, or was it piped in?
― dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
there was a backing track but he was signing def singing. he let the crowd do a lot tho.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
that's pretty cool imo -- i'm always surprised artists w/ a big catalog of side projects or whatever that don't do something like that when playing live
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
Terius Nash @MrTeriusNashShout out to my nigga Carlos "Los" Mckinney who Produce this record with Me!
^encouraging
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:05 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WyH9b9W4_Q&feature=
― Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
I can't disagree with this YouTube commenter:
she sexy but cant sing.. he fuxn her dats y she on da track.. but she soo fineofficialdollface14 2 hours ago
― Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/dE3ro.jpg
― man down (D-40), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
FUCK no
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
-_-
― dharunravir (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
lolwut
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
glad homie finally came out of the closet as a garden gnome, we all knew the truth all these years anyway
― some dude, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
*deletes all my terius albums*
― dayo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
next album: The Love Aquatic
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
yay
― Evan R, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
i appreciate the way he's making it easy for us to get over him
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:02 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it was shocked blonde?
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
Still don't understand; is this a costume, or did he Chris Brown his beard for fashion purposes?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
wake me when it's over
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
http://uk.omg.yahoo.com/news/dream-dyes-beard-blonde-losing-bet-111854068.html
― some dude, Thursday, 26 April 2012 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
radiokillarecords.comoh man i really like this?
― blossom smulch (schlump), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link
same
― just sayin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
it's the first dream thing in a while that sounds really interesting or fun. roc was v prefab. he's singing it real nice - that real nice old vocal style breakdown near the break at the end - it's kinda playful, like i can see it as the weird upbeat florida university analogue on a new record.
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
1 year passes...
― deadcandace (diamonddave85), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
― shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
what are you guys listening to on that site
― ♆ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/13713-dope-bitch-ft-pusha-t/
― blossom smulch (schlump), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:58 (eleven years ago) link
Love IV MMXII
is this really the name now
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
damn i love "dope bitch"
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
the hook is alright but the rest is kind of a mess imo
― the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
i like this, it's Different!
― flopson, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
kind of Old School
― flopson, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
I love it too. It puts a smile on my face.
― longneck, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
this is good.
― “Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
total summer jam
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/20345672
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
(nsfw)
thats that impeach the president break no
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
why are all terius' singles these days so demo-sounding and basic? this sounds unfinished
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
it's also hard to care when he himself sounds completely uninvested in it
i more or less agree w/ lex
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
altho "roc (your body)" is still amazing
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:45 PM Bookmark
"synthetic substitution", i think?
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
oh yah u right
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
you down with old pusha t / yah u know me
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
'pieces' is the only song he's put out (or leaked whatever) this year i really f/w. it's a classic tho.
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
dude i know did a nice edit of dope bitch:
http://soundcloud.com/djsssolution/the-dream-dope-bitch-feat
― ♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
so terius' first london appearance (to my knowledge?) is going to be today at wireless festival on a bill below chiddy bang and dot rotten. ummmm kind of annoyed about this?
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Saturday, 7 July 2012 10:51 (eleven years ago) link
― just sayin, Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:18 (eleven years ago) link
oh damn. he's not anywhere else after?
― blossom smulch (schlump), Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link
nope (afaik)
― just sayin, Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeUZLMJ9g9w&feature=youtu.be
― johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
hm that was supposed 2 be the embed ofhttp://www.thefader.com/2012/06/25/interview-zola-jesus-and-the-dream-at-vitaminwater-uncapped/
― johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
a sad url
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
seriously
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Saturday, 28 July 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
So no word on this album whatsoever, huh? sad.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he essentially say he was giving up on his solo career when he took that job as exec a&r or w/e it was
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
ARGH. You got my hopes up.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
ah damn, never heard that. it always seemed like he was going forward full-throttle with the album, even though the label had the parking brake on the whole time. kinda hard to watch
― Evan R, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:04 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i'm sorta betraying my sad attention to that yeezy forum, here, but afaik there are still def jam ads coming out w/NEW ALBUM FROM THE-DREAM SOON on. def jam are weird. i really hope he puts something out.
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, I'm good with the three he released.
― Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link
you don't have to give them up if THE LOVE IV: DIARY OF AN EXECUTIVE A&R sucks
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
I want that album.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
So, this is actually dropping some day?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
whole record of casha iirc xp
& i guess so?, i mean it has been rolled back a zillion times but he has a bunch of stuff that exists; there was that article (in rolling stone?) about a listening session w/like jams called equestrian (you can fill out the metaphorical territory of this teriusism) & w/dream walking around telling everyone the songs were about cocaine.
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
def jam has gotten better in recent years about just going ahead and putting out records even if the commercial expectations for the artist have dwindled, so i wouldn't be surprised if they squeak this out sooner than later
― Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, what????
B-Rock & The Bizz was a hip-hop rap group consisting of producer Baron "B-Rock" Agee, his brother Leevirt Agee from New York City, Paul Costict, Maurice White, Albert Phillip, Mc Kay and Thaddeus "T-Bird" Maye from Mobile, Alabama. Together, Leevirt Agee, Paul Costict, Maurice White, Albert Phillip, and T-Bird Maye were known as The Bizz.The group is best known for their hit single, "My Baby Daddy", which peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in April 1997. The song was the group's only hit making them a one-hit wonder.In 1999, Terius "The Dream" Nash replaced T-Bird Maye on the group's second album entitled Porkin' Beans & Wienes.
The group is best known for their hit single, "My Baby Daddy", which peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in April 1997. The song was the group's only hit making them a one-hit wonder.
In 1999, Terius "The Dream" Nash replaced T-Bird Maye on the group's second album entitled Porkin' Beans & Wienes.
Complex Magazine asserts this as fact: http://www.complex.com/music/2012/05/the-100-best-hip-hop-one-hit-wonders/brock-the-bizz-my-baby-daddy
― Evan R, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
not very shocking, dude's been kicking around the industry doing this and that for a long time
― bish don't kill my bosch (some dude), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
If it's true, and I'm not sure that it is, it means that:
1. Terius worked hard as hell to scrub this from his resume
2. There may exist video of him performing "My Baby Daddy"
― Evan R, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
we already done this?http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=z2LeGZXZuG8still deciding what i think of it
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
and another onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZnflYuFOBs&feature=player_embedded
― johnny crunch, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
wow that new one just goes on forever
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol "tender tendencies," this shit is garbage
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
god I can't believe I didn't turn that off after the 1st minute
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
AK47 is less fatiguing but maybe I didnt need to hear about him fingerfucking
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link
mayyyyyyyybe
― (alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, yeah, in his prime he could have probably pulled off a concept album about it
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
we've got miguel now
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
urgh please no either/or bullshit
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
ha was that directed at me? maybe i should take out my displeasure at no one posting in my miguel poll by polling these two.....
nah tho
― liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
hey man that poll got 30+ votes, quit yer bellyachin
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
not sure what i feel about "tender tendencies." I feel like the Weekend (to bring him into this) does what "Tender Tendencies" tries to by showing instead of telling. erius tells us he's self-centered; Tesfaye actually acts self-centered. He doesn't have to tell us this.
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
feather-soft pillows of a track tho, gorgeous stuff
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
Sort of intrigued by the thought of a Sophie's Choice between The-Dream and Miguel. I'd probably be Team Terius, but it would be a tough one
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
or maybe we can listen to multiple R&B singers! or maybe not
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/11/ocean-weekend-miguel-best.php
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
That article brings me so much irrational joy. Like, I had to re-read the whole thing again, just because you posted it
― Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
As I was saying, the 1977 remaster sounds MAGNIFICENT
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link
pity about the songwriting
― Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:59 (eleven years ago) link
Songwriting is great, man. I really don't understand why y'all think it isn't.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
what did you think of love king
― k3vin k., Friday, 14 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
Loved it.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I know all of the 1977 songs by heart. They're great: perfect, bitter-but-uplifting breakup songs. And Form of Flattery is such a great diss.
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
longneck I don't know if I can trust your opinion about anything anymore
― 乒乓, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
tsk tsk tsk
― dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
ha yeah you fell right into mytrap
― k3vin k., Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
"slow it down" dropping today, apparently
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 February 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) link
this song sucks
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
the production on his songs has really fallen off, "roc your body" excepted
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
tricky is busy on this sub-weeknd b.s. :-/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7xvIJNDq4
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link
Does not suck. Is great. Love it.
― longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
it's just sad how much terius has fallen off at this point :(
always used to love how he could somehow produce genius even when being really obviously lazy/tossed-off but there are just no ideas left
― lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
the well does indeed appear to be dry
then again i do love "nobody's business" (purely as a song dammit, not for CB)
my lurker username is looking shitty these days
― livethedream, Friday, 15 February 2013 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
nah this is fantastic. total return to form after all that post-love king bullshit imo
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
i dont think it's awful, but it sounds to me like someone trying to ape dreams style more than anything else, which is incredibly :[
― johnny crunch, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
i think his downward turn in consistency has been pretty gradual and not actually that huge, though just enough to matter obviously, but i don't even know how this song is half as good as "Dope Chick"
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
I love them both.
― longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:53 (eleven years ago) link
"dope chick" has the dopiest chorus, i could never get into that song
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
it's not top shelf or anything, but it grew on me
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
i feel like every time this guy drops a song, a random set of people are like "a return to form!"
i mean i thought that about "roc your body" so no hate, it's just a weird phenomenon
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'll give support to J0rdan's point: This new track is great; his best since "Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out." Didn't think he had something so bottomlessly hooky in him anymore. Return to form.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
i really liked "fuck my brains out" too
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
That's the shit he does better than anybody else... just barrage you with hook after hook after hook after twist after hook. It's an incredible thing, so I can forgive him for losing his knack for it. Nobody could sustain that writing style for more than three or four years
― Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
"fuck my brains out" is the only solo terius song i've really loved post-love king
baffled at any love for this - even "roc" was sort-of-ok in a basic way but this is just sad
― lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
i honestly always thought his solo stuff was just one decent-sized fraction of his best work. these days would much rather hear something he's written for Beyonce or Rihanna or whoever, feel like his outside writing has suffered less lately.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
yeah his stuff on 4 doesn't back up my impression that he's fallen off post-love king (but then looking at the list of writers lord knows how much he had to do with those songs)
― lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
xp That's definitely true, but his solo records gave him room to just let a song ride in a way the songs he writes for bigger stars never could. His best solo stuff was always so unhurried, so you could just sit there and luxuriate in how hooky and gorgeous it all was. I miss that vibe.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
it's funny that he starts this new song off by saying "i know they're not gonna play this on top 40 radio" despite that quote from a year or so ago where he was like "i can write a solo smash whenever i want to, that's not what i'm going for right now. i'm gonna do that when i'm 50."
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
I miss good terius so much
― 乒乓, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
chillin w/ my ella / there's nothin u can tella
― 乒乓, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
This is a bit of a trifle but I'm enjoying it, more than I expected to from reading the most recent posts at least. Fabolous verse is woeful though.
I stand by my theory that Terius has always had pretty much zero quality control, but he barely needed it up to 2010 or thereabouts because his overall quality was so high.
― Matt DC, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
the fab verse definitely sucks but the nu-dream alternative would've been an electric guitar solo so i can deal with it
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
no one will be talking about this song a month from now
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Listened once, that's probably enough.
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, February 15, 2013 5:16 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No. They'll be singing it instead, looking at butts.
― longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link
a generic 3rd rate version of one of his actually-good songs probably WILL be the one that blows up & makes me hate the-dream
still dont think it'll be this one, though
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
I quite like the sound of Fab's verse, if not the content
― Number None, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
if the-dream ever makes a solo song that blows up and people sing along with again, it will definitely feature the line "looking at butts"
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know about you guys but when he sings "You can see her ass from a satelite!" I get all warm and fuzzy inside.
― longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
Can he go away and not come back until he's made a whole album along the lines of "Schoolin Life" (not strictly the same, but variations on that theme. Preferably with Bey)
― Tim F, Friday, 15 February 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
tim did you hear his song on the keyshia album
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
man i swear for all the years i've been bullshitting about terius on this board i've never understood anyone's - except probably tim's - taste in dream songs. this os hardly a leap forward or anything - i don't want to say "those days are over" because he'll come and hit us with some of his best work out of nowhere like he did with "4", but the days of that being the norm are certainly over - but this is just a solid terius joint. real warm, hooky, everything in its right place, sort of 2013's "FILA". i'm OK with this existing
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
oh boy tim's against me and i'm agreeing with matt dc and longneck. up is down, left is right, luol deng is a back-to-back all-star
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
this is just a solid terius joint. real warm, hooky, everything in its right place, sort of 2013's "FILA". i'm OK with this existing
^^ this is otm i think. was super curious to hear this having read a couple of responses here but yeah it's just like ... fine, & nice. it's funny, i was reading some thing about suit & tie in which the reviewer talked about various things having stepped into timberlake's shoes in the five years in which he was quiet, dream records & frank ocean & various subgenres of r&b, &c, & wrt this song that feels kinda pronounced, too, like hearing something that's so terius - in being this pretty lush textural build-up of all of his favourite tropes - the song feels like a more specialist, slightly marginal catalogue entry for dream fans more than it does an general new release by anyone else. like you go to it for what you get from him, & you get a kinda 2013 FILA as a result, even if that thing has become slightly less significant or universal than it once was. i'm psyched for the record too, even as just a bunch of generic dream textural synth jams. it sounds nice.
― schlump, Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
thing is terius has made solid, unremarkable, even terius-by-numbers singles before - "rockin' that shit", "love king", "fila" - that he obviously did in 10 minutes but they were still pretty likable and hooky. this is just tired.
― lex pretend, Saturday, 16 February 2013 09:00 (eleven years ago) link
Well this is definitely likable and hooky to me. It is self-consciously throwback, but in a fun way. But then again I love terius-by-numbers better than I love almost any other numbers.
― longneck, Saturday, 16 February 2013 10:53 (eleven years ago) link
I only had to play it twice before the kids and wife started to sing along to it. They didn't say anything about it being tired either.
― longneck, Saturday, 16 February 2013 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
"rockin that shit" was unremarkable hmmmmk
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah i raised an eyebrow at that too
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 15, 2013 11:10 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark
there's also the 'radio killah' that gets sung right before this part
― 乒乓, Saturday, 16 February 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
career killah killah killah
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Saturday, 16 February 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link
imo ppl repping for this song are in denial or fetishizing dream's dream-ness
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
ok
― 乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link
nah you're straight lying to yourself if you think this is up there with his worst stuff. it pretty undeniably has hooks!
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
i mean people who stanned for "abyss" and most of love king aren't gonna tell me what has a tune and what doesn't
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:07 (eleven years ago) link
abyss is so much better than this its not even funny
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:12 (eleven years ago) link
im willing to buy that for someone coming to dream w/ no context for his work or w/e might have no problem w/ this but you dont even have that excuse
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
well as i said, it's a second-rate FILA, but give me those over "abyss" or something like "body work"
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
― Number None, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:20 (2 days ago) Bookmark
fab comparing himself to winnie the pooh is probably the only worthwhile bit of the track
― r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
im not huge on abyss but
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:12 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is otm
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
Abyss is awesome wtf
― skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
i dont dislike abyss but dream has 20+ better songs imo
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
but i don't even know how this song is half as good as "Dope Chick"
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 14:52 (2 days ago) Bookmark
true
'dope chick' is actually a real lil outlier for terius imo, an agreeable cute radio track that lives for itself (not outstandingly memorably so, but still) and doesnt lean very heavily at all on his mythos
in the absence of any inspiration forthcoming he'd have been vastly better off chilling out and racking up three or four of those instead of putting the tattered pink chanel suit through the sewing machine one mo gin
― r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:44 (eleven years ago) link
i never liked dope chick tbh
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
& actually hearing this in higher quality than i did the first few times, im w/ it much more than initially
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:50 (eleven years ago) link
aaaaand that'll be deej otm
― r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
there is no rational reason to listen to this new one more than 1.5 times
― r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
:'{
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
people get all weirdly out of shape about what dream songs are acceptable to like and idgi. i'm not really into this song but if other people are, that's fine.
― The Reverend, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:18 (eleven years ago) link
― 乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:24 (eleven years ago) link
no other people being into this song is completely unacceptable
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:34 (eleven years ago) link
if we arent willing to die for this then what will we die for?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
the-dream doesn't really warrant a ballot poll of best tracks but i almost wish you guys would do one just to get the endless hair-splitting over his catalog out of your system
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
lets get this puppy above 500 new answers it'll just be like old times
― 乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:42 (eleven years ago) link
good news is green is definitely the leading scorer after that debacle
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
whoops wrong thread
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
damn i was having fun trying to figure out how it might possibly not be the wrong thread
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:45 (eleven years ago) link
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:36 PM Bookmark
something other than the narc of sd
― The Reverend, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:56 (eleven years ago) link
deej has basically been the
http://soundsunlimited.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/CheapTrickDreamPol.jpg
since the dude's second album dropped though
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:01 (eleven years ago) link
hardly
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link
almost every person itt had picked over his catalog song by song
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:10 (eleven years ago) link
but good to get a vote from the deej police
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't think it's particularly accurate to single deej out as the dream police, we all probably think of ourselves as the authority on his work tbh
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
― The Reverend, Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:56 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well i guess you'll be leaving ilx then
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:25 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoyed Roc and quite like Slow It Down. didn't adore Dope Bitch. All of them are worse than Fuck My Brains Out (and I don't dislike Body Work the way some people here do.)
Abyss is one of my least favourite tracks on Love King (also Panties to the Side) but they work in the context of the album and I enjoy Abyss when I hear it on the LP I just wouldn't ever put it on otherwise. Whereas I can see myself listening to Slow It Down a decent amount. Not sure if that makes it 'better' or just more of a single.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
i mean obviously none of this compares to imperial phase Terius but after that it's Yamaha and Veteran and about half of Love King and then it's splitting hairs from there.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
big difference here is the production which...i dunno. i miss the detail work that we would get from tricky. the broad strokes are all pretty good still but it feels a bit shallower sometimes, is all.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:20 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i just mean he was ahead of the curve on Love/Hate and every since then when people talk about his new records he just kind of loudly sighs and stomps his feet
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
i just mean that al has some kind of passive aggressive hard on for me right now & could do to chill it out
everyone in this thread has ~passionate~ feelings abt dream records
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:41 (eleven years ago) link
i agree w/ most of that alex. also the dream police thing is cracking me up
― chilli, Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago) link
sorry sh1pley go hard had a hard on, don't mean to be a dick to you, king penis drake
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:53 (eleven years ago) link
...
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:57 (eleven years ago) link
u sound super b-hurt. i dunno what you think ive done to you but chill
i'm butthurt AND i have a hard on? man my social life is poppin
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
i.... kind of agree with deej on his opinion of this. it seems kinda weak.
― Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link
well now we just need contenderizer to weigh in
― k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:08 (eleven years ago) link
i kinda like the "them other n's had to do a dance record or the label wouldn't put em out" shots fired bit but yeah song is just mediocre. fab can sound really terrible when he tries to get away from that light ma$e style.
― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:13 (eleven years ago) link
fab kinda a budget tip on this
― schlump, Sunday, 17 February 2013 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
i basically unreservedly love this song now
― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 February 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link
ha i was going to bump this thread to say that after a "my views on the subject are evolving" period i am officially into it, now. it's nice.
― schlump, Saturday, 23 February 2013 05:03 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3wvg0EgpI1rsdv5xo1_500.gif
― k3vin k., Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
hehe
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― r|t|c, Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
whats that from
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
don't even know tbh
― k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
Postable in just about every ilm thread tbf
― Harlem vs Alabama (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 25 February 2013 05:14 (eleven years ago) link
haha this is pretty fucking dope
https://soundcloud.com/the-dream/tron
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
has anyone ever invalidated their own troll-y single this quickly? lol this fucking guy
can i just
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/X4l8Tes.png
lmao
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
i'm all for people using the greek alphabet instead of wingdings fonts
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
this is much better than anything else he's done recently but it's also basic as fuck and really is just a c version of "hit it on the road"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
actually more like a d/e version
there's no real reason for this song to exist
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link
"hit it on the road" is wack as fuck
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
and you like this?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
yes! i mean it's not amazing, but very good song
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
oh my gawwwwwwd everyone tweeting about this
why can people not accept their favourite artist has lost it, ever
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
i mean really do we have to have this discussion again
j0rdan this is not a "very good song" in any fucking way and you are letting your terius standom delude you terribly
*forecasts for 100 new answers by 5pm*
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol when i have stumped for the-dream at any point in the last year
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration) [Started by the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend)
"let that 808 beat up on yo aaaassss" has more humour, hooks and compulsion to make me dance in one line alone than anything i heard in this
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
Tuesday, June 7, 2011 3:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right i'm not gonna argue because i think terius is basically irrelevant at this point and doesn't actually deserve any more fucks than i have just given, or any further new answers, or any more "discussion" at the expense of people actually making decent music in 2013. out
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
you just freaked out today over an ex-sugababes remix of kendrick lamar's "swimming pools" for the record
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
you probably didn't bother listening to it
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
i did! it sounded like 3 people singing over the "swimming pools" beat. but people freaked out because the three people happened to belong to a once-beloved pop group.
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
let only he who can undeniably rid himself of lingering stan impulses cast the first stone
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
lol, i actually rolled my eyes when every uk music critic tweeted about that within seconds of it being uploaded. then i listened to it like 10 times in a row and realised it was properly good. i freaked out because of the amazing harmonies, mutya's voice in any context and hearing that beat with singing on it tbh
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
awesome revive
― k3vin k., Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
haha wtf at this track. this is awesome and unexpected, lex sit the fuck down.
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
from this very thread, can i just
jesus you people and your taste chess
― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, January 5, 2012 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
ha, i didn't mean to inclued "lol @ the artwork" but it's still fitting
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (4 hours ago) Bookmark
http://i.imgur.com/zIfmL8r.gif
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
oh i see rev has also taken leave of his senses, out to him too
― r|t|c, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:03 (eleven years ago) link
not feeling this at all. i've got to the point where he actively irritates me now.
― tpp, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
yea im not w/ this. but 'slow it down' is now my jam
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
i liked 77 and still occasionally play tracks off thatthis sounds like a somewhat autistic kid with an obsession with grocery bag punchlines got the opportunity to remix mercy in a big boy studio"put it together by myself... VOLTRON"
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
it's kinda annoying that like 60% of his music is now about how everybody is copying his shitcan we go back to when 60% of his music was about how he couldn't get any respect plz
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
Awesome. Definitely.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 08:39 (eleven years ago) link
song sucks but j0rdan is totally right that lex doesn't get to crusade about that so self-righteously when he's the one that started this very thread
― some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
that would be correct if i'd started this thread recently rather than TWENTY-ONE MONTHS AGO, in which time terius's loss of magic has been made unequivocally clear
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago) link
late pass, he done been ass
― some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
i mean i guess this thread wasn't that much longer after love king, which had its moments (while also being pretty disappointing), but body work / fuck my butt out was definitely confirmation for me that shit was over
― some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 12:12 (eleven years ago) link
Blasphemy.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
i finally sat through 1977 when he re-released it recently, it was pretty rough
― some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
Beautiful album. Beautiful.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― some dude, Friday, March 15, 2013 8:03 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
my hopes of this guy doing anything memorable ever again under his own name are down to like 5% at this point guys
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
Love vs Money, How To Be A Lady, and Memoirs were just a delightful confluence of awesomeness and it's time to accept that that was an anomaly
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:13 (eleven years ago) link
Or we could just say that his awesomeness is never going to stop.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
awesomeness always stops, though. in like 99% of cases. even the most legendary genius. this is life, it doesn't invalidate their past work.
I was just thinking how incredible it was that this dude helmed LvM, HTABL and Memoirs IN ONE SINGLE YEAR - that's quite some fucking peak.
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
It does stop of course. I'm just semi-amazed at how keen you all seem to be on writing him off completely. We all know he's not dictating trends anymore but this "Terius is trash now" thing you've got going on makes no sense to me. I've loved every album he has released as a solo artist and every album by another artist that he has contributed majorly to, and I expect to love IV Play as well.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
how can you expect to love it when you haven't heard it?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
Because that's what expectations are about? Not having experienced something one imagines the experience in advance? Also, the sonic differences between Slow It Down and Tron have me intrigued. And I've liked or loved all the material he has leaked after 1977. Why shouldn't I expect to love it?
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
awesomeness always stops, though. in like 99% of cases. even the most legendary genius.
otm. This is an important thing to come to terms with. But I'm not ready to write Terius off completely, though. I've dropped any expectations, but he's still capable of making music I want to hear. And whenever he offers echoes of that old magic, it's still a pretty remarkable thing. His 2007-2009 run was so glorious that it's a pleasure just being reminded of it.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno. One thing is anticipation, the other is expecting to love it. xpost
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Well I'll be very disappointed if I don't.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
"fuck my brains out" is really dope tho
― J0rdan S., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
longneck dont you just like everything tho
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol an "anomaly" wtf, why do i even bother
― k3vin k., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
fuck my brains out IS really dope tho
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
i will rep for "fuck my brains out", and blame it for making me start this thread of disaster
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
Feel like a lot of you all are posting in absolutes. Artists don't have to be geniuses or trash, they can be inconsistent or somewhere in between.
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
I'm also not completely sure that The-Dream's recent misfires are predicative of his future output. A lot of them I can write off as reactions to his tenuous commercial footing. It feels like the guy is still trying to suss out where he stands, so I'm comfortable withholding judgement until he figures out where he wants to go from here
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
― Evan R, Friday, March 15, 2013 9:12 AM Bookmark
Thank you. This attitude here has been bugging the fuck out of me lately.
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
Which is why I don't understand longneck's approach. I want the Pistol Annies album to be good but I won't "expect" to love it.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i don't feel like anyone's posting in absolutes. terius has gone from an imperial phase where he made some of the best music around to becoming more inconsistent to putting out nothing but ideas-void trash for nearly two years. no one's saying "everything he puts out in the future will be terrible", we're observing that his period of greatness has come to an end, as per an almost universal pattern we've witnessed over and over again
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
i mean would people get excited about a new neptunes album now? or would everyone hum and haw and probably mock a lil bit because their time has passed?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
i'd wait till i heard it and judge it on its meritstho i'd make assumptions based on my prior experience(i'm white btw)
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Neptunes is a fair-ish comparison, but I feel like 1. new music from The-Dream is still a rarer, more exciting commodity than new Neptunes music and 2. Neptunes have been off their game way longer than Terius, so there's more precedent for disappointment
― Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
― k3vin k., Friday, March 15, 2013 3:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hardly, lol. I just prefer to speak about the music I love.But I do find it really weird that someone will insist that 1977, Body Work/FMBO, Love Slave, Pieces, Kill the Lights, 1+1 (Terius version), Slow It Down and Tron are "nothing but ideas-void trash" - those are some of my favorite records over the past two years. I mean, we could rate them and I wouldn't give every one of them a perfect ten, but given the opposition I'll risk speaking in absolutes just this once.
― longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
there ARE people who still worship everything new the Neptunes/NERD do. that's the real reason OFWGKTA are scary.
― some dude, Saturday, 16 March 2013 00:43 (eleven years ago) link
I felt too embarrassed to post this but since this thread is veering towards scientific analysis of whether or not future dream jams will flourish, this song is apparently not on the lp. somebody asked him, he said it's just for soundcloud.
― schlump, Saturday, 16 March 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
there are some jams on this record but it seemed awfully long, i could hear it opening up but could also hear some tracks landing with a bit of a thud
the beyonce feature is really fantastic tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
he kept talking up jodeci and timbaland and how it's an album heavily influenced by 90s R&B
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
i told him that there are people out there that really love the electrik red album and he literally sighed and said "the good ole days..."
also said that he wrote 9 of those songs in one day
and that every time he sees solange she talks about that album
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
fuckkkkkkk that's up there with god creating heaven and earth on the first day of creation
― prolego, Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
and solange saw that it was good.
― r|t|c, Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
he literally sighed and said "the good ole days..."
even terius knows
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 5 April 2013 08:08 (ten years ago) link
look on my works ye mighty
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
and fuck my brains out *synths start playing*
― 乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPwkzdYN4JE
maybe ter/iu/s 2.0 meant the good ole days when he could scoop up pawgs without being challenged to street races all the time
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
lmao what a bizarre video
still a dope song imo *shrugs*
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
*low-5 for ter/i/us 2.0*
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
I hope one of these is 'P Is For Power' because the image of Terius just sitting down with a blank piece of paper and writing the word 'PUSSY' in big letters down the side is just too funny.
― Matt DC, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
in flawless calligraphy
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
the physical deluxe edition of the album folds up into a pyramid
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
he said he's started "packaging wars" with beyonce and jay-z and the like
lmao matt
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
oh cool when did terius sign to mo'wax
― r|t|c, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/r6YXer3.png
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
What happens with all the songs that were supposed to go on the double though?
― longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
i think the album has like 15 songs on it, it's pretty long
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
I'm usually happy with 12. It was supposed to have 30 though.
― longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
pretty glad this album doesn't have 30 songs
― schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
tbh i have no real expectations for a new terry album, so i'd actually prefer a longer record where he just dumps out everything he's working on so i can pick and choose my own favorites
― k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
you guys don't want to hear a double-disc version of this album, i promise
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
ha haty for your rundown jordan. i am still really psyched for this, sad there is no kells on it though.
do you have any ontological observations about the real life dream. i just read a review of the listening session that made dream & timbaland sound like the odd couple.
― schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
yeah i was not at the one where tim showed up
he opened up a little bit towards the end of ours but it was just a few of us so it was pretty subdued. he's funny though.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
What's your main objection to the songs you didn't immediately like, j0rdan?
― longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
on some it sounded like he was fighting the songs. like the one with kelly rowland gets really loud for the chorus in an awkward/unorganic way. there was another one like that too.
also on some the songwriting was just kinda weak
but these things are not a great way to evaluate music!
― J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
you just sat down and listened to the album start to finish with him and some critics?
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
he drives you around in his car & you both plug in headsets to the kind of walkmans that have two headphone outs
― schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
and then you have sex?
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Jay-Z-Frank-Ocean-The-Dream-Accept-Best-Rap-Collaboration-Song-at-the-2013-Grammys-5.jpg
― the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:26 (ten years ago) link
they requested "no swap meet" questions for the interview
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, April 5, 2013 7:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
the album isn't ordered yet, the transitions haven't been put in & there are some guest vocals still to be mixed (so we didn't hear them)
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
k.
― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 April 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
thumbs up
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-dream-gets-frisky-in-iv-play-song-premiere-20130408
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Yes.
― longneck, Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
this is a proper banger
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
j0rdan STOP USING THE WORD "BANGER" TO DESCRIBE SONGS THAT ARE NOT UPTEMPO
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
i feel like this bangs
― J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
properly
jordan STOP USING "PROPER" LIKE YOU ARE A BRITISH PERSON
― k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pubd-spHN-0
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
i'm reserving full judgment til i hear how it plays out over the course of an album proper
but this is like one of those midtempo slinkers like sex intelligent or she needs my love that have never been among my favorite terius songs, but have never been among my least favorite terius songs either
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
kevin he is not saying this song is a sausage
― schlump, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/UTN0a2Z.png
sad lol btw ;_;
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
is lex living in the same post-"One in a Million" world as the rest of us?
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
"one in a million" is not a banger
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
it's like calling "crazy in love" a ballad, it's just blatantly the wrong word
whoa now
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
oh nm i misread you, i thought you were saying crazy in love was NOT a sausage
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
A big part of "One in a Million"'s innovation was that it was a ballad that was also a club song.
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
"I think when "If Your Girl Only Knew" first came out, people kinda said, Oh, she got a new sound. But then when "One in a Million" came out, the beat and the melody were so different from anything. I was in a club one night, the DJ took it back TEN TIMES, no lie. And this was in the middle of him playing, like, Biggie records and Tupac records, and here goes "One in a Million" in the middle of all this street rap! That's when I said, OK, this is something different--we are going somewhere else, we are kind of switching the sound. "
--Missy
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
i had literally no idea that "one in a million" was a game changer, why not continue explaining it to me rev
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
i know you know that, my point is just that they haven't been exclusive categories at any time since
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
i know that as well, my point was that using "banger" as synonymous with "good song" is just a failure of vocabulary that renders the word meaningless
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
I haven't heard the song in question yet so no specific comment there but if it goes off in the club it qualifies as a banger to me
― sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
WOW this is good
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, April 8, 2013 7:11 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i do use these simultaneously from time to time but this song sounds like a "banger" to me even if it's nto up tempo... it's pretty loud, for instance
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
"IV play" feels like vintage terius to me in that it has like four diff hooks, the funny thing is that the main chorus is by far the least memorable of them all
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:08 (ten years ago) link
it's so hilarious to me that he wrote a song about 12 Play and then flipped the title to reduce the cleverness of it
easily the best (or least underwhelming?) of all his recent songs though imo
― some dude, Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
the verses very 'memoirs'-era imo
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
it's good but i prefer the nu-FILA "slow it down" to it, to me that's more what dream's all about
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link
i still think the songwriting on that is pretty weak, but yeah this is a pretty overt stylistic exercise
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link
ima keep it real witchu baby you bayyyyad
― k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBUMWhm5s1I
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
sexy
― deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
When is this album finally supposed to drop?
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 May 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
i love this sorta ... ambient dream
it's comin may 28, or hasn't been delayed yet. he is still fuckin w/the tracklist though. the beyonce track j0rd was into isn't on there because of clearance issues so there's another w/her & 2chainz. this record ^^^ is from august alsinas' mixtape.
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
this is good, off some random mixtape tho
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
the beyonce track j0rd was into isn't on there because of clearance issues so there's another w/her & 2chainz.
WAIT REALLY
fuck
how does that happen in this day and age?
― Number None, Monday, 6 May 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
http://www.rap-up.com/2013/05/06/the-dream-taps-beyonce-2-chainz-for-turnt/
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
damn that song was really fucking good
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
yeah i am bummed & i did not even taste that sweet fruit
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzCbCuAzgNw
best dream song since anything off love king
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
half-joking but ~SYNTH HORNS~
― J0rdan S., Monday, May 6, 2013 6:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The August Alsina tape is hardly "random."
― longneck, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 07:26 (ten years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/the-dream/high-art-ft-jay-z
― Number None, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
outro is kinda nice rest of the song is kinda tuneless tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
yup
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
Tags: The-Ream The Dream Jay-Z Killarecords Radio Killa Records D Defjamrecords Defjamrecordings Def Jam Recordings
― r|t|c, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Dreamer's been releasing a lot of music that perks my ears lately, but for as good as all of these songs sound, not one of them has been anywhere near classic. It's really frustrating; it feels like his gift is still there, but he just can't close the deal anymore.
― Evan R, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
that's not a pattern that genius producers have historically fallen into at all!
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
this is actually the first song off this project i can half-imagine willingly listening to again! certainly the most immediate
oh gawwwwwd jay-z is terrrrible though why is he mimicking kanye's HUHHHH
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
i KNEW before the outro even happened that it'd be a soft and billowy and nothingy affair purely based on j0rdan liking it, lol
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
i can actually remember this one after it ended! it's a bit like a third-tier "hit it on the road"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
A non-event. No crisis though. But 4Play sounds classic after it.
― longneck, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:23 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark
heh
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
yea iv play def stands out as the best song hes put out in yrs
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
^strong statement!
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 May 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:20 (Yesterday) Bookmark
i am choosing to hear oh gawwwwwd as per big sean in this post fyi
― r|t|c, Friday, 10 May 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link
this is sorta garbage but I like it
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link
dream singing jay's lines sounds real nice
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
also is this album a song cycle about white girls, y/n
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
New snippets out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8suYyMondfI
Couldn't find a youtube link for the second snippet, but it's here:http://hiphop-n-more.com/2013/05/the-dream-turnt-feat-beyonce-2-chainz-py-feat-big-sean-pusha-t-snippets/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-dream-turnt-feat-beyonce-2-chainz-py-feat-big-sean-pusha-t-snippets
― Greer, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 08:12 (ten years ago) link
both sound p good imo
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link
enh
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
pre-order for deluxe edition up on iTunes now. Tracklist:1. High Art (Feat. Jay-Z)2. IV Play3. Equestrain4. Pussy (Feat. Big Sean & Pusha T)5. Turnt (Feat. Beyonce & 2 Chainz)6. Where Have You Been (Feat. Kelly Rowland)7. Too Early (Feat. Gary Clark Jr.)8. Michael9. Loving You/Crazy10. New Orleans11. Self-Conscious12. Holy Love13. Outro14. Slow It Down (Feat. Fabolous)15. Divine16. Y’All17. Tron18. Psycho
― mingalaba, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
ok, what3. Equestrain
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
earnestly looking fwd to
y'all!y'all!y'all!y'all!y'all!
― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:29 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
What singles are available now, and what's worth buying?
Don't say "High Art"
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
Did he really need a song named "Pussy"?
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
3. Equestrain4. Pussy (Feat. Big Sean & Pusha T)
read this as "Pussytrain" at first
looool @ "Tron" being on the album
― society is a lol, it makes me j/k to my friends (some dude), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
everything below "outro" i'm thinkin is an itunes deluxe edition track
― drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link
there are samples on itunes, it sounds p bad :/
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
too early sample sounds nice
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:43 (ten years ago) link
haven't listened to samples yet but have not dug anything off this except "slow it down" (a nice throwback to los' cotton-candy) and "IV play" (terius indulging in maximalism)...
― drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
^like this guy
― 'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
lots of these snippets are v v promising imo, schlumps a h8r
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
lol 'outro' is basically a weeknd diss
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
rly hopin theres a sweet transition in "lovin you / crazy"
― drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
ha I am really not a hater, i am an opteriusist, it's just everything sounds post-l.o.s thin, autotuned to the point of obscuring t's voice & just sorta weirdly aimless/slight/slightly misguided like high art so far imo. I am still googling DREAM THE-DREAM FOURPLAY VINYL everyday I am just sorta suspecting/accepting that this is not the lush love king sequel I am desiring. I have spent a long while recently bugged by the easy, consequence free cynicism of low pop culture expectations ('oh this is going to be a trainwreck') so I seriously have no pleasure hating on it, just I listened through today & it all sounded p blank.
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah, totally agree with schlump. snippets sound p dire
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
sorry equesTRAIN might've been a typo...
i am a bit worried that the Beyonce and Kelly Rowland features will be nowhere as good as the tracks that Terius has done for each of their upcoming albums... or i guess i shouldn't be worried, and come to terms with the fact that since Love King i've more often enjoyed his productions for other artists than the stuff he does for himself...
― mingalaba, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
Finishing up my first listen of this, and it sounds really good. Nice rebound from 1977. Nothing as grand and grabbing as his first two records, of course, but he's testing enough new ideas that it doesn't feel like a lesser redux of them, either—I'm struck but how many of these tracks don't song immediately identifiable as Dream songs.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
You have the album?
― longneck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
A stream, yeah
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
ohhhhhhhhh - just glad to know it exists at this point
― longneck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I have a system I use for gauging whether rap/R&B albums are real when I pitch reviews or plan coverage. It's a scale, beginning with "hmmm, this might not really exist" and ending with "huh, I'll be damned":
Release dateCover artTracklist announcementSnippetsLeak
― Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
― society is a lol, it makes me j/k to my friends (some dude), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
So I don't know if it was lowered expectations or what, but I'm liking this a lot. I'm enjoying the guests, the energy, the pacing, all of it really.
― Evan R, Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
Is this at least on par with Love King? I'll be happy if it is.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
Yes and no. It doesn't hit woozy highs like Love King, but I don't think it misfires as badly, or repeats itself as much. I'd much rather listen to this than Love King right now.
― Evan R, Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
i wasn't a huge fan of Love King but i'd be pretty shocked if this had anything as good as "Yamaha" or "F.I.L.A."
― trick paddy pollars (some dude), Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
yeah.
― utilizing my famously feline agility to seek managerial succor (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
I'd be surprised if any lyric is as good as "so she let me do her"
― P is for Poo Poo Doo Doo (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
"where have you been" -> "too early" -> "michael" is the one great stretch on this album i think
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
is this out there?
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
not that i know of
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
I think the whole album is one great stretch, tbh, but "Too Early" is particularly incredible
― Evan R, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
idk i think there's a handful of tracks on this that are kinda worthless
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
There's some fluff in the final third, but it's mostly likable fluff, so I don't mind
― Evan R, Monday, 20 May 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
his albums always start off kinda slow but "high art", "pussy" and "turnt" are 360 dunked into the recycle bin
― J0rdan S., Monday, 20 May 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
http://hasitleaked.com/2013/the-dream-iv-play/
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 May 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
big chunk of the record uploaded a couple hours ago, enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDreamVEVO
― tundra, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link
KAT as first venue for webrip leak says a lot about Terius fan base...Can't wait til I can get 320. Is there even a place where I can officially buy IVPlay in 320? Only online option iTunes?
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:14 (ten years ago) link
Dipping in and out of album cut on YouTube, waiting to be wowed
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:38 (ten years ago) link
Ok "Turnt Up" has its charms
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:42 (ten years ago) link
Lol at "Michael"! Perfect, the Dream is....back? A+
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:47 (ten years ago) link
This is like the perfect start to my day - it the Lonely Island tracks I'm about to spin are dope I should buy a lotto ticket
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 10:48 (ten years ago) link
front third of this is sort of a mess
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:43 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
does anyone who had already heard this have the production credits?
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:44 AM (2 minutes ago)
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
All Nash everything except:
Equestrian (Nash/McKinney)Where Have You Been (Nash/Da Internz/Miykal Snoddy)Self-Conscious (Nash/McKinney)Holy Love (Nash/McKinney)
― Andy K, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
3 los tracks! somebody grab k3vin a towel.
― yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
andy k, thumbs up, thumbs down?
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
way too much of the stuff i hated about "love king" here -- aimless half-sung ballads, lower-register mumblecore -- and too little of the bright, hooky stuff that makes him good.
i don't know how anyone could end the album with "slow it down" and not think it's the most enjoyable thing here
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Either neither or down.
Certainly not up.
― Andy K, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
It's true that there's not a lot of the bright, hooky stuff, but I think the storyline here is that he's getting better at the other sounds. He's trying a lot of new things on this record, and a lot of them work really well. I like that he's trying to advance his sound instead of just relive past glories.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
the song with kelly sounded good on the tonight show last night. or at least she sounded good.
― yeeznuts (some dude), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Who is McKinney?
Not... CYNTHIA McKinney?!? Lol
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
kevin's being a bit fatalistic
there's some stuff on here that's not very good but "IV play"/"equestrian"/"where have you been"/"too early"/"michael" stand up with mostly anything off his three other albums
i need to listen more to everything else after michael tho
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
mckinney is los da mystro, one of dream's longtime co-producers
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
"mostly everything!" who are you?!
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
also again it really sucks that the original beyonce track got cut from this, it would be like pulling "fancy" off love vs money or something
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:20 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
those songs are great and could be dropped into any of the other three albums and no one would bat an eye
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:22 PM (49 seconds ago) Bookmark
I really wish I had remained ignorant about this
― Number None, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
now that we're talking about LOS tho i guess this sort of fits into what you guys were discussing on the goon thread (i think) a while ago - the decline of the performer-producer relationship and the increased reliance on fad producers and guests. obviously terius has always had a hand in his own productions but his gradual drifting away from tricky and los does coincide with an appreciable drop in quality
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah definitely. gradually hearing the difference between tricky and los and how they each played off the songwriting is a huge part of the pleasure of those albums for me. he's a lot mushier and less detailed a producer.
― goole, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
hmm can someone let the thread know when this leaks in decent quality? i'm not listening to a vevo stream of terius of all people, i may be sceptical but i at least want to give him a chance to shine
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
like, i don't know how you can be a dream stan not just totally adore "michael" or "IV play" or "equestrian"
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
the little outro on michael is so classic terius -- "dirty diana, hop up in this phantom..."
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 21 May 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
Holding out for a decent rip over here. Don't want to ruin the first impression.
― longneck, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
longneck and i as one on terius at last
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
longneck will love this
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
the vevos sound fine btw
Yeah it's not too bad tbf but more power to you holding out.
Equestrian was really lame to me.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
"turnt" is great and also puts in relief the failures of "high art" and "pussy"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
glad that pussy got put in relief
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
really enjoying this still
i'd probably find 1977 extremely leaden if i listened to it after this
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, mercifully this positions 1977 as an outlier, not the beginning of an irreversible slide
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
man i'm all "the horns in 'loving you' are incredible" and then it immediately shifts into this kinda dull glitchy section :\
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
RIP the liveblogging from 2009
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
too early is epic as hell if i dont play this every summer night i just dont know
see me silhouette the sunset w/ my top downtop back, see me ridinmillion dollar benz rims glidintop down, gold watch100 stacks spent on my glock (?)
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
holy love is really nice
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
heh i thought that was the worst song on the album
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
My stream of this expired over the weekend, and I can't wait to hear it again. Probably going to buy the deluxe edition on Tuesday; I think it will be the first time I've bought a deluxe edition of an album since Love King
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link
That's like the scourge of crit-Dom now, the expiring stream
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
if only his label would put a stream of the album up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
surely this is not the kells we know!
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 04:29 (ten years ago) link
Stream is up on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAOYL4T_OE&list=PLG9zGdKjNW2-Ubd0L4XhzLWWClKIFYaHT
― tarping, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:15 (ten years ago) link
this is... quite good.... actually. would happily go so far (so very, very far) as to rate it above love king i think
trashy but persuasively consistent about it. feels more like just an honest skeezy dude dealwithit.gif and not so much the repetitious and crassly lumpen barrel-scrapings of a former poet
i mean like "maybe put my dick on it / over the weekend" has gotta be some sort of genius right
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
last few trax are pretty weaksauce though
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
"self-conscious" is pretty dope i think, as far as the final few tracks go
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
yeah more so as a tranche than individually i guess
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
i guess we're just looking at opposite sides of the same coin - to me it seems he's got nothing left to say, which is fine when he falls back to those exercises in terius-dom that made me like him originally ("iv play", "slow it down") but when he rehashes his most amelodic, aimless material from LK i just can't deal with it.
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
on one listen my reaction is pretty much "pleasant and mild surprise that it's not as bad as i thought it would be (except when it is)" - felt like every so often there were flashes of new ideas but rarely followed through, the skeeziness enables terius not to fall on his face but there weren't very many real highs? i mean no matter what you think of love king it has "sex intelligent" and "yamaha"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
"michael" is nice but there's a palpable lack of vitality there, like compare it to "take u home to my mama" for instance
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
still can't believe rtc turns his nose up at "slow it down"
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
i think "too early" was the stand-out on first listen for me, "turnt" was fun in a generic way (as is "high art", vaguely)
"pussy" and "equestrian" were terrrrible, "michael" drifted past rather, "loving you/crazy" had a few nice sounds but compared to all his big epics previously it's just inadequate
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
yeah "loving you/crazy" is just a complete stinkbomb, i take back everything i said about "abyss"
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
jay on "high art" is just so sad, someone put him in a home already
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
"Michael" can be epic or blah depending on my mood
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
"High art" sucked
I'm cherry picking on iTunes once this drops
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
lol how many moods have you had since it emerged yesterday
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Haha
I've listened to it a bunch lex, and every time it felt different
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
damn nobody told me fabolous sampled fancy
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
what when
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
throw it in the bag feat drake
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
ya that throw it in the bag remix is top notch
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
"new Orleans" is like 3:30 of dreams worst song ever and then 30 seconds of a really dope outro
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
"IV play" is really a monster though
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
i couldn't figure out what the end of "new orleans" was reminding me of, but it's "crossroads" !!
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
Feel like the Bone Thugs rip is one of several overt '90s homages on the album. I also get a major Teddy Riley vibe from some of the ballads.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
i like "new orleans"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, May 22, 2013 6:04 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
gonna come talk shit about this itt once i've listened to it a few more times but yeah, i wanted to belatedly co-sign whoever was causing controversy by suggesting this bangs. really nice.
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, May 22, 2013 5:47 PM (9 minutes ago)
yeah it's crazy how he can love this bitch, while he says fuck this bitch, while he fucks this bitch
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
i don't know. it's a fine song. i like the melody quite a bit.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
it's a "sex intelligent remix" self-bite m/l
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
does anyone else feel like a really crucial missing piece of the jigsaw are terius' vocals? like, we all know he isn't the ~greatest singer~ or anything but his heart doesn't seem to be in it half the time, he sings most of the album like he sings demos. like the assholish lyrics of "michael" need a bit of panache to work but he doesn't sound invested in them like he did on eg "sweat it out" or even "florida university" in the past so you're just left with some nice los piano and a narrator you don't like
surprised no one's raving about "too early", i really like that one - the guitar works so well, love the combination of that with the pitch-shifted vox. and "holy love" is getting underrated, there's a drama there that the rest of the album lacks.
"new orleans" is completely unremarkable, it sits there and does absolutely nothing. fine song my ass. the central metaphor does not work on any level.
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
I agree actually
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
FINALLY coming around to "Dope Chick," which totally doesn't need Pusha at all
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
dope chick is the only thing i've liked since love king really
i think i might like the title track from the new one, idk i only heard it like once
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 23 May 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link
title track is 10/10 classic one of the top 5 songs of the year so far imo
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
So is there a good rip of this somewhere now or did lex just cave in?
― longneck, Thursday, 23 May 2013 06:39 (ten years ago) link
it's ~out there~
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link
yeah i found some mp3s that sounded normal (unlike the purportedly 256kb[pbbpb one that was just a youtube rip)
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link
not sure whats wrong with kevin new orleans is probably the best as far as whats been released
― tundra, Thursday, 23 May 2013 09:24 (ten years ago) link
"4 play" is all about that outro
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 23 May 2013 10:32 (ten years ago) link
― tundra, Thursday, May 23, 2013 5:24 AM (3 hours ago)
the last 30 seconds are pretty great when he switches it up but the rest of the song is dream at his misogynist mumblecore worst, it's like all of his worst qualities wrapped into one song
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
anyway i have no idea what kind of weirdo you have to be to prefer that song to "IV play", it seems like a pretty objective opinion to have to me
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
"it seems like a pretty objective opinion to have to me" is an amazing phrase
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
:)
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
jay is just biting 2 chainz on his verse, right?
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
a few weeks ago i turned on the radio in the middle of jay's bdkmv verse and "ME AND MY SPOUSE" sounded so much like 2 chainz for a second that now i can't unhear the occasional vocal similarity
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
it's sad how imo one of the greatest ever has spent the last several years of his career trendhopping like he has, wish he'd have just a little bit of self-respect
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
al have you listened to this yet or are you holding out on us
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
i don't have such an urgent thurst for winnie the pooh singing asshole slow jams that i can't wait for it to hit spotify
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
the title track is one of the least defensible things here, such a pale imitation of past half-glories
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
lmbo
― tpp, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, May 23, 2013 1:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I haven't heard this yet but I'm feeling this assessment. ALso k3vin is my dream weathervane, so.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
i'm talking about jay fwiw!
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
haha I knew that actually but my post could have been clearer it's true.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Meant I'd trust you on how jay would pan out in this context - although maybe that's kinda shooting fish in a barrel.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
haha
i was wondering where you were coming down on this tho so i'm looking forward to your reactions
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
i'm not feeling this and agree with k3vin for the most part. especially w.r.t
i know his lyrics have always been corny and that was part of the charm but i just don't find it charming anymore. it's really a personal thing though, i can't listen to his old stuff either :'(
― tpp, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
I don't actually listen to music anymore. Being aware that things are happening b/c there appear to be ILM threads about them is as much as I can manage.
Still maintain that this guy falls off the rails as soon as he starts thinking he's better than whoever he's fucking.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
can sympathize with wanting to keep up w/ tunes but life intervening. wish you'd get paid lots to write about it so that wouldn't be a problem
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Terrible album. Never listening to it again.
― Andy K, Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
i don't necessarily agree with this and i am avoiding the album till release (given the penchant for dramatic audio shifts at the last minute that dude sometimes employs + just wanna hear it clearly and not that desperate for new music just now) but "winnie the pooh singing asshole slow jams" is pretty classic
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
I guess the album is a failure if you hold it to the rigid criteria of sounding exactly like Love/Hate. But as a "Dream branches out and does some new stuff" record, I think it's pretty great. He's done the upbeat, plinky-piano thing so many times now that I really didn't need to hear it again. Would've been depressing if the whole album was variations of "Dope Bitch"/"Slow It Down," as much as I reflexively love that sound.
― Evan R, Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
he's not really branching out much though, most of the weaker stuff on this album sounds a lot like certain parts of "love king". and a handful of people here weren't into about half of that record
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
I guess the album is a failure if you hold it to the rigid criteria of sounding exactly like Love/Hate
this is not the only reason half of it sucks (i say this as someone who was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't a disaster but let's not carried away it's not a very good album at all)
But as a "Dream branches out and does some new stuff" record
lol what new stuff? there's hardly anything on this album that i haven't heard some form of before (whether by him or not).
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
Just catching up itt, but according to wiki "Dope Bitch" isn't even going to be on the released version, not even on the deluxe edition.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's not on it
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
ok, just wondered since i saw quite a few mentions about it here. i was excited when i saw signs for this in Target last night, but now that i'm reading this thread i don't know anymore. :/ y u brake hart terius?
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
i feel like if you were into "love king" you'll like this just fine. andy's probably the exception to that rule
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
I feel like this new one is less beholden to a template than Love King. On that album, nearly every track felt like a re-write of something on LH or LK (albeit an often-very-good rewrite). But IV doesn't drag like the worst stretches of LK, and there's a slight shift toward more straightforward, grown-up R&B that I think is pretty becoming.
― Evan R, Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
jay-z is great on 'watch the throne' and has put out two very dope solo songs this year imo
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
thanks k3vin that actually makes me more hopeful about this.
― i kant believe it's not buffon (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
Love King without the highs doesn't sound particularly appealing in all honesty, given that Love King is *all about* the highs. No one listens to that album for the boilerplate stuff.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
the title track and "slow it down" are legit highs imo, and there are some other moments as well, but it's a step below LK ultimately i think
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
there's a slight shift toward more straightforward, grown-up R&B that I think is pretty becoming
"pussy" might be the most generically juvenile song he's written
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
i thought the best thing about LK was how it pushed the template further outwards at its best - more melodically generous, even weirder production on songs like "sex intelligent" etc
and yeah mdc otm LK's highs are so great that the bits that drag don't matter. IV has no such highs and a looooot that drags
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
I can't tell if my phone is loading the thread weird or of k3v is just repping for the same 2 songs over and over
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, 23 May 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
I listen to Love King for EVERYTHING.
― longneck, Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
longneck otm
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
this album has plenty of highs
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
man I hadn't heard L vs H in ages and this morning's listen while showering was so good. Forgot how great "She Needs My Love" is.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:52 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha u_u
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, 23 May 2013 16:37 (54 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah this is essentially where i'm standing, minus the payola vaguery
k3v upthread mentions "opposite sides of the same coin" to me wrt dream which i agree with but would actually take further, a la 1977 - the-dream, fantasised romantichimerapparition of the-reality terius nash, with this album undoubtedly the poorest representation of the former but the best to date of the latter
to me (and i guess this chimes in with evan further upthread) this album is almost kinda like a magically transported and retooled unearthed terius debut from the 90s, from that once upon a time atl r&b c-lister who did minor regional heat for raheem the dream and b-rock & the bizz etc, only instead of shanaynay from around the way singing bout pagers it's beyonce singing bout that siri
naturally i can see how that may not be of much allure to dreamer aesthetes but imo better the local and lo-qual vitality of this record than the sadly diminished returns of love king and 'slow it down'
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
ALso k3vin is my dream weathervane, so.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:25 (4 hours ago) Bookmark
poor tim, shorts and flip-flops in the pouring rain, staring uncomprehendingly at the stopped clock in his hands
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
but dreamy
― klaus dingeldore's rhinelander monkey keeper father (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 May 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
rtc cryptodisses cut the deepest :(
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
tim i hope you like this because i want to like this and i haven't totally given up on it yet, despite my outward fatalism - ay me, they little know under what torments inwardly i groan
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
Four songs into this and I'm not sure I have the will to carry on. I'm prepared to forgive or overlook a lot of his skeeziness and laziness when it's surrounded by swirling clouds of multicoloured synths and amazing pop rushes but a lot of this is just dirge.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
*plumps cushion on royal throne of contraristan*
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
It took me a moment to get that last cryptodiss, I was wondering what rtc knew of my wardrobe
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
Complete waste of Beyonce as well by the way.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Liveblogging reax: first two tunes and I'm like "this is kinda fun, imma enjoy this if I pretend that it's a ray j album or something", then my attention wandered and suddenly "equestrian" been and gone, "pussy" actively annoying BUT the arrangement is pretty awes. TBC...
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
"Turnt" is fun. I'm glad that I've taken a break from dream for a while, it makes it less distressing that this album ain't serving bangers with creamy nash.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 May 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
i find myself becoming increasingly well-disposed towards big sean of late
maybe it's just the adlibs, idk. "mmm!"
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
dunno why everyone's so down on 'equestrian', hits the spot 4 me
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
big sean's verse was pretty ok!
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 May 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
It was the best part of the song I think.
― Tim F, Friday, 24 May 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
oh god!
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Friday, 24 May 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
haha i thought the same thing tbh
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 May 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
woah der
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Friday, 24 May 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Keep in mind that's mostly because of the (lack of) quality of the-dream's bits.
― Tim F, Friday, 24 May 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link
winnie the pooh singing asshole slow jams FTW
― longneck, Friday, 24 May 2013 09:09 (ten years ago) link
deluxe edition out there in hq now
― tundra, Saturday, 25 May 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
he should have gotten Young Dro to feature on "Equestrian"
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 May 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Saturday, 25 May 2013 06:30 (ten years ago) link
also that should have been the only guest rap
― MIGUEL 3D: THEY FLY @ U FACE (The Reverend), Saturday, 25 May 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
tity boi's is fine too, nothing spectacular or necessary but then when has a rap on a terius joint ever been
"where have you been" floats about nicely, the piano's reminiscent of "hate u" (i think?) and another nash-penned song i can't mentally place atm
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
actually i would go so far as to say all of the raps are in their proper places, we're given a 2013 jay-z verse, a 2013 pusha verse, on a 2013 the-dream album; who has the right to complain really?
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Saturday, 25 May 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Ehhhhhh. I like this but I don't love it yet. It's a bit too mannish, like he's trying to impress me now instead of just going for the panties. Not sure if any of these songs hold up to anything on Love King tbh. But I'll keep listening.
― longneck, Monday, 27 May 2013 08:02 (ten years ago) link
It's hilarious to me that LK is thought of by so many as Dream's solo high water mark
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 27 May 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
i don't think it is, really, people are just saying it's a step down from the last one
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
Basically all the people I know IRL into the-dream think Love King is his best album or only album (as of a month ago) worth bothering with.
― Tim F, Monday, 27 May 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's weird because all of his hits were with his early work, but i've noticed the same thing
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 May 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
pitchfork effect, i guess; they didn't even review love vs. money
― my mans ray manzarek (some dude), Monday, 27 May 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
really hard out here to not use the phrase 'sheeple' sometimes
yeah that's a good point
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Monday, 27 May 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
Not comparing this to LK as Terius' greatest moment here, simply comparing this to it as the last proper The-Dream album. I'd probably take Used To Be over most of the songs here too though.
― longneck, Monday, 27 May 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
LVM is where it's at folks
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 27 May 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
LK = fidelity/tech proficient but humorless
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 27 May 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
I love LK just as much as the first two (not saying it is better though). Calling it humourless feels wrong - 4 Play sounds kinda humourless to me but Love King was really fun!
― longneck, Monday, 27 May 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
we're all forgetting about 1977
― 乒乓, Monday, 27 May 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
well i had until that post, thanks a lot
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
― Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
I'd take 1977 over this, I think.
― longneck, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
1977 is teh worst
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Only if you have no soul. This is the worst:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LebahZpxtT4&hd=1
― longneck, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
I find myself agreeing with the Pitchfork review - except for the part about Big Sean ruining Pussy - he's literally the best part of it, corn and all. Also, he's definitely overrating Michael but I don't blame him. I'd probably reach for something to overrate too.
― longneck, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 08:02 (ten years ago) link
no talk of the deluxe edition trax?
"divine" is actually alright"y'all" is terrible and goes on for about a decade"tron" remains worthless"psycho" has really nice production, that pulsing bass and twinkling sound, could have been a super-cool film soundtrack thing except he really didn't bother to write a song
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
it's depressing having to come back to this though, better than i expected it may be but this is just not a good album by anyone's standards let alone terius's
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
"Y'All" is definitely a gold star candidate for worst The-Dream song ever
― some dude, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, "Y'All" is 1977-caliber bad.
I wonder if the response to this album would have been different if 1977 hadn't soured so many on The-Dream. I still think this album is solid, with a genuinely awesome stretch from "Turnt"-"Michael." It's a damn good album if you approach it with open ears, but a near-failure if you hold it to LK or LvM (which isn't really fair, imo, since he's going for something very different here).
― Evan R, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
i can assure you my ears are fully open evan
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
and no, this is not a radical attempted change of direction from LK or LvM, at all.
the anticipation is over, the adoration has begun
― some dude, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
I mean, he's drastically scaled back the puffy, cotton-candy pop songs that used to be his calling card, and eventually became his crutch. That's a huge departure, right there. He's actively breaking from his signature sound.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
I dunno, I don't think there's much of a correlation between what works and what doesn't and how close it is to his earlier albums.
On some level I can see why people might really be into 'Michael' but I don't find it convincing.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
puffy, cotton-candy pop songs like "she needs my love" and "fancy" and "love vs money" and "right side of my brain" and "sweat it out"?
he's always had multiple signature styles, and IVP eschews some of them but none of it is a huge departure from things he's already tried
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
jesus fucking christ @ "y'all"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
― Evan R, Wednesday, May 29, 2013 6:13 PM (1 hour ago)
man i don't know. he's always done ballads - the slow descent into unlistenable atonality began on LK, and this is just a continuation of that. LK was a break from his earlier work, but this is just a fuller exploration of that sound and those moods
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 May 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
not sure i hear the atonality as much on LK.
i guess when i think about LK i keep flipping back to FILA and yamaha, both are totally "listenable" and "tonal" imo
even F U and love king i would describe as "puffy, cotton-candy pop songs"
― drew holidaze (livethedream), Thursday, 30 May 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
well yeah all those songs you mentioned are good to great imo, and the former 2 were universally loved, at least here
i'm talking about songs like "february love" and the "sex intelligent"s - even without commenting on the quality of those songs, i think much of what evan sees as "new ground" on IV play is really just an update of some of those sounds
― you are not a better writer than f. scott fitzgerald. you are not a b (k3vin k.), Thursday, 30 May 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
the idea that this album is unlistenable or something is truly ridiculous
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link
parts of it are definitely bad. look at the first half of this - "high art", "equestrian", "pussy", "turnt" - you get excited to listen to those songs?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:35 (ten years ago) link
i think "equestrian" is a great song
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
like it's derivative of his stuff but just novel enough that it sounds inspired to me
high art, pussy and turnt are not good tho, yeah
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 30 May 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link
But Ride is so much better.
Anyway, February Love and the Sex Intelligents are great and sound nothing like this. Even the drums on this album are getting on my nerves. Way too many insistent, sexless bass drum thuds. Where has the romance gone? The flirtation and superlatives and gaps? It's just so unsexy.
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 08:31 (ten years ago) link
Love King is patchy as hell but doesn't need to be retrospectively damned by being compared to this clunker. It's far closer in quality to the first two than it is to this one.
I wonder if Terius has been left high and dry by a general sonic divergence of R&B and rap in the years since Love King came out - they were a lot closer in 2008 and that led to a middle ground that Terius could work in. Now when he gets drawn closer to hip-hop then the results are awful.
Also the "I make love to my girl then I get high with my n____s" bit is just weird, possibly because I've never really envisaged Terius as the sort of dude who has friends he hangs out with. Like I imagine him either hanging out with whoever he's fucking at the time or just sitting in a darkened room writing angry screeds at whoever he's no longer fucking.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 09:00 (ten years ago) link
the sex intelligents are two of terius' finest songs imo - the former has INCREDIBLE production, so many spacey details, it feels like the furthest outwards he's gone in terms of his big synthy epics, and the latter is peak terius braggadocio. "cuz there's another level / beyond that other level / he's on that plane level / and i'm space shuttle" is one of my favourite terius moments. there is nothing on that other level on IVP.
the thing is even at its worst LK felt like terius was trying to push further outwards at all times - you can hear the ambition in "february love" and "take care of me" even if they're not good at all. even "panties to the side" SOUNDS massive. and obv that pays off big time in its best moments. IVP is really a retreat from ambition - from the ridiculous wordplay, from the self-indulgent production tricks, from the teriusness of his solo career vis à vis his songwriting for others. it makes much more sense to imagine it as some lost early demos, as rtc did, than to talk about it breaking any new ground whatsoever. like, terius has always done stuff in this vein - characterising his previous stuff as JUST cotton-candy pop songs is so off-base, like maybe if you were only listening to the singles?
and the thing that really kills IVP for me is that terius performs them like they're demos! his delivery is so perfunctory - like cf "sex intelligent", those multi-layered baaaaabygiiiiiiirls, he's so committed to the song that it totally conceals the aimlessness. there's so little personality on IVP (Generic Asshole being fundamentally uninteresting).
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 May 2013 09:01 (ten years ago) link
also anyone expressing active enthusiasm for "equestrian" needs to raise their standards for real, that song is just nothing
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 May 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link
I do find myself hoping that he wrote that song while watching the Olympics last year. He's probably got enough 'things I can ride' metaphors to sustain him for another ten albums at least.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 30 May 2013 09:05 (ten years ago) link
Lex otm. (February Love is still great though.)
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link
lol @ "the sex intelligents"
― some dude, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link
this album ain't serving bangers with creamy nash
was half-kinda-hoping someone would at least call me out for this :-(
― Tim F, Thursday, 30 May 2013 10:59 (ten years ago) link
Juut one "but my love keeps it poppin like the Taliban" on this album and I might have forgiven it.
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link
*Just
would've been glass houses for me to say anything after my old 'nash bridges' comment
― some dude, Thursday, 30 May 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link
haha i never picked up on that, typical
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 29, 2013
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link
Y'all is his worst song ever. I miss Kill the Lights on this. That was a proper song.
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
i'm actually coming around on "loving you/crazy" - sort of a sonic sequel to "love vs money 1+2"
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
same although it feels so much sloppier
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
the back half of this has its moments - "loving you" and the second part of "new orleans" are good, and "self-conscious" has that signature terius bounce (but otherwise is sort of doomed by its formula) - but terius suites really work best in context, on the heels of his more conventional bangers early on. if the back half suites from LH and LvM are like a cigarette after sex, here it's like trying to smoke a cig after taking a dump
― k3vin k., Thursday, 30 May 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
great long lex post ^^^
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
http://distilleryimage3.ak.instagram.com/8f3c63fec7bc11e2867a22000a9f1266_7.jpgCom'on and Thirsty Whoreare sketchy but still better than anything on the album imo. Thirsty Whore sounds like an outtake from Love King and is all the better for it.
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
thirsty whore
― Number None, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
Should have been a Thurston Moore diss of course. But still pretty great.
― longneck, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
wait what is that?
― k3vin k., Friday, 31 May 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
Bonus track EP. Not sure who carries it.
― longneck, Friday, 31 May 2013 07:23 (ten years ago) link
dam, com'on is p good, luv the piano in the chorus
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
is kindof p un-dream like tho, is like singsongy
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
lol @
thirsty whore/how you doin?/hows that goin?
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
this is my liveblog of this ep btw
― johnny crunch, Friday, 31 May 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
anyone have uncensored y'all? my copies says explicit but ain't
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Saturday, 1 June 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
the track "y'all" that is
if the back half suites from LH and LvM are like a cigarette after sex, here it's like trying to smoke a cig after taking a dump
have you considered applying to stylus
― tundra, Saturday, 1 June 2013 07:41 (ten years ago) link
Com'On is excellent. Sounds very The-Dream to me though.
― longneck, Saturday, 1 June 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link
even the promise of curse words would not be enough to make me or anyone need to listen to "y'all" a second time
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 1 June 2013 09:12 (ten years ago) link
i haven't listened to this new thing yet but dear god "thirsty whore" is just a grim, grim title from terius
i've warmed to this album a bit. helped to pretend i'm listening to a bunch of demos actually so thx to whoever put that idea in my head. most tiresome retread is def. 'loving you/crazy' but the stretch from 'iv play' to 'michael' is actually pretty nice. despite my best attempts 'turnt' has become permanently stuck in my head :-/ (SOPHISTICATED... RATCHET). i also love terius' crappy chopped & pooh'ed raps on 'too early'. that track is really nice melodically & i particularly love 'before you see me silhouette the sunset with my top down'
― tpp, Saturday, 1 June 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link
"com'on" is pretty awesome
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
promo video for "pussy" is basically some softcore porn
NSFWhttp://vimeo.com/67350873#
― monotony, Sunday, 2 June 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
not convinced that's a girl
― tundra, Sunday, 2 June 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
That's horrible.
― why pee on the beat (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
cool video
― k3vin k., Sunday, 2 June 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link
wow she fucks the album huh
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
Ready to cock back, rat shitThat drop top, in December, on mid winter, rat shit
Turnip, turnip, turnip, wuhTurnip, turnip, turnip, wuh
― a very generous Cordoban (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 June 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah turnt is not really at all up to dreams (or bey or 2 chainz) standard but im sorta into it
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
i way underrated "loving you/crazy" btw, the build on that is totally legit.
i'm maaad, i'm gone, yeah you right i'm off of my rockershe done put it on me, come between me and her and i...set your ass off proper
― k3vin k., Thursday, 6 June 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
lol this title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s3UjsW82ew
― some dude, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
BEEN OUT ALL NIGHT, N---A, GRABBIN ON ASS
― some dude, Thursday, 6 June 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
What's up with the messy drums in that beat though?
― longneck, Thursday, 6 June 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
oh that's a weird sounding YouTube, i just grabbed the link while listening to the song on Spotify, here's a better one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoTmWBoSWqQ
― some dude, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
'slow it down' sounds great now
― 乒乓, Saturday, 8 June 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link
gimme a ne-yo edm song over that garbage imo
― some dude, Saturday, 8 June 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
ne-yo edm songs also sound great
― 乒乓, Saturday, 8 June 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
this performance is truly great, gotta be easily the best live thing he's ever done
http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/the-dream-gary-clark-jr-perform-too-early-on-late-night-with-jimmy-fallon-video/
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 9 June 2013 04:45 (ten years ago) link
gary clark is a monster, good call to pick him up
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 9 June 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
lol dream is so awkward. good perf tho
― k3vin k., Sunday, 9 June 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link
Is he a germaphobe or is there some other reason why he only touched the mic/stand twice very briefly and gingerly during a four and a half minute performance? Also. Lol at 2:30 where the backup singers are doing their best to lip-sync to the auto-tuned Terius backing track.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 9 June 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
enjoyed the rvw lex
obv "pallid palimpsest" is right up my straße
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
xx
enjoyed writing it. enforced repeated listening made my "actually this is just mediocre, not a disaster" position morph into "almost everything about this album is depressing and horrible and i really don't want it in my ears"
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 June 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
srsly though i can't get over what a terrible basis for a song "iv play" is. YOU ARE LITERALLY JUST PROMISING ME BAD SEX TERIUS.
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 June 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
and my big sean mention was in reference to "slob on my knob" which gives me the shivers every time i remember it, that line alone is enough to sink the whole album
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 June 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTWgjg2ZQeY
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
yeah, the fact that he tossed that out without dap did not set well with me
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
[4x]
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 14 June 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
slob really is the magic keyword for this album. the reference must surely have struck big sean like a lightning bolt as he was disconsolately staring at terius in the booth
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, 14 June 2013 17:55 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark
read the lyrics on paper and he is hardly breaking r&b decorum though - the teriusness makes it so
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
tbh idk, something still nags at me when i see this album being railed against so but either way he is truly no longer worth the mental effort
― r|t|c, Friday, 14 June 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013/06/19/193538349/the-dream-on-why-we-all-need-r-b
― curmudgeon, Friday, 21 June 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
microwave analogy <3
― daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Friday, 21 June 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
i heard the NPR thing on the radio the other day and was slightly taken aback by the pronunciation of his name like "teary-us" -- never really heard it aloud before but i always heard it in my head as more rhyming with "mariah"
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link
tuh-rye-us?
that's wild, man
― J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
i'm not saying it made sense. but when you only know a name in print sometimes you come up with unconscious assumptions.
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link
wait is that tear as in crying a tear or as in tearing a piece of clothing? cause I've always assumed his name was pronounced the latter tear-ee-us
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 June 2013 06:01 (ten years ago) link
the former?!
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 June 2013 06:07 (ten years ago) link
cool segment
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 June 2013 06:12 (ten years ago) link
yeah, like crying
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link
teary-us is way weirder than tuh-rye-us to me? at least the latter fits like how some say darius. i guess as a made up name dude can p much say it how he likes tho
imo it's just uh, terry... with an us
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
huh, idk if i was aware that juvenile is also a terius
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 June 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link
rtc otm
― look at my watch/I'm in the club and everyone's looking at me/fuck th (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link
― love will terius apart (k3vin k.), Friday, October 9, 2009 7:46 PM (3 years ago)
also me otm
― look at my watch/I'm in the club and everyone's looking at me/fuck th (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link
i dunno if the NPR guy had it right, i'm just saying he went "teery-us" multiple times
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
tear (as in ripping clothing)-ee-us is how i always heard it
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 21 June 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
radio dude was kinda british tbf?
― look at my watch/I'm in the club and everyone's looking at me/fuck th (k3vin k.), Friday, 21 June 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
Who the hell pronounces Darius like Mariah? It rhymes with tear (as in ripping clothing)-ee-us.
― The Reverend, Friday, 21 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
either we're weeping or rending garments, either way it's all very appropriate
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=bixdar02&word=Darius
― r|t|c, Friday, 21 June 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
i've been mispronouncing "hootie" for years too
― some dude, Friday, 21 June 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
"your body must be anticipated because it already done leaked out"
― 乒乓, Saturday, 22 June 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
whoa this is really good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wa2VTsm0dg4
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 15:14 (nine years ago) link
This is brilliant both as a statement and a song, totally surprised that he even had this in him.
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 18:03 (nine years ago) link
I was with this until it got to the message at the end and then my eyes rolled out of my head.
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
was not...expecting that
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
message at the end is dumb but without wanting to disrespect the guy i would have expected him to mess this up even worse
― out here like a flopson (tpp), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Surprised that the guy who assembled "How To Be A Lady Vol 1" has strange ideas about class and identity
― boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
this is pretty great and very welcome
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 April 2014 21:34 (nine years ago) link
the message at the end made me smh but i cannot stop listening to this. might play it for my kids tomorrow. also the footage of harvey milk made me tear up a little. terius is so aggressively hetero i wouldn't necessarily have predicted he'd identify with the gay rights movement.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
i keep texting my sister lyrics
"my father spoke of you through that liquor" is an unexpectedly beautiful lyric
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
this is moving but man i feel like i need to pick it apart
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
have to admit i'd heard the 'hilfiger is a racist' thing and never looked into it myself
http://www.snopes.com/racial/business/hilfiger.asp
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
yeah the idea that all the struggles being depicted in the video are one struggle is very moving and also false, but i think i might in part be excited that dream can even make a good song anymore
also excited to teach it tbh
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link
i predict my kids will also sth at "classism is the new racism" and i can't wait. is that evil?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
also i forgot about dream's "i love my mom" virgin side of the virgin whore complex mode
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
goole, pick it apart!
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:24 (nine years ago) link
my students have discussed the hilfiger thing in class before, and they mostly know it's a false rumor, but i think the hilfiger advertising apparatus is still pretty alienating to them. (i used a hilfiger ad in a lesson on persuasion and the discussion of hilfiger's construction of his market afterward was thoughtful)
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:36 (nine years ago) link
the rhyme in this song is really good
my lesson is ostensibly going to be about rhyme and allusion
if you guys won't show up and post all day about dream like we used to in 2007 then i will just continue to post about my lesson plans. i'm sleep-deprived enough to do it.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
ps ENOUGH PAIN CAN MAKE A WHOLE RACE BITTER
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
am i making this thread unreadable? i keep eating cookie dough and hitting refresh on this video on youtube.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
i have to go to dinner, damn!
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
most oooh moment is putting "since then ain't been a lot going on" over the obamas.
― goole, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link
for real, though, this line makes me think about how while i was teaching a unit on the narrative of the life of fred douglass, one of my students pulled me aside and whispered (because i had a white paraeducator in the room) i can't read stuff like this; it makes me hate white people. and i was just like, i know. and could not think of a damn thing else to say. teaching american lit to black kids feels like aggression sometimes. for all i know, they'll be like do we have to talk about race again??? tomorrow.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
i'm not really sure what we're all s'ing our h's at, "classism is the new racism" is maybe not the best phraseology but it's not like dream is denying the continued presence/effects of racism in this country -- quite the opposite, in fact. i suppose recognizing linked struggles has fallen out of fashion lately but overall i thought the message was pretty coherent -- the basic idea is that the rulers oppress us in ways less "obvious" (for want of a much better term) than traditional racism but which have similarly dehumanizing effects. (though interesting to note that i didn't pick up on any women's issues in the video, though if may have missed something.)
like if you think that recognizing the connectedness of the struggles of the variegated oppressed is somehow counterrevolutionary i just don't know what to tell you. here's noted racism denier huey newton on the linked struggles of the black, gay, and women's movements - http://www.workers.org/2012/us/huey_p_newton_0524/
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link
the song is ok too i guess
i don't think it's counterrevolutionary at all, and i don't think they're unconnected. Of course they overlap, especially for people in more than one category (and race is inextricable from class in this country). I do think that montage can overly simplify and i think it is imprecise to suggest that all these struggles are the same struggle, which the video tends to suggest. i also think my students will likely take issue with the notion that black is a feeling unmoored from a particular racial experience.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link
tbh i was the only one sing my h itt though. i did post a million times; i can see how it seemed like "we all" were.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link
xp yeah i mean saying that being gay or being poor is just like being black is clearly sacrificing nuance in favor of an easy narrative, but i think there's value in pointing out that while the experiences might be different, there is still a common enemy. worth noting too that the guy who made this happens to be black, it's not like this is a macklemore song or something. about to go deep into mindreading here so you'll have to excuse me but it's possible that dream intended for the audience to be fellow blacks, to say "these groups are oppressed too, these are causes we should support"
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
and "classism is the new racism" is too glib to be worthy of the song, which i appear to like a lot more than you do
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
that said "classism is the new racism" is clearly a clunker but who is terius but a man whose constant tripping over his own words obscures his talent? and yet we love him
xp ha! no the song is def good
― k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link
horseshoe otm
― 龜, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
lol k3v i am understatement-impaired
i didn't even know i still liked the-dream! i love this day!
― horseshoe, Thursday, 1 May 2014 01:31 (nine years ago) link
After an April report by TMZ saying that he punch, kicked and strangled his ex-girlfriend while she was pregnant, The-Dream has turned himself into NYPD on charges of felony assault & strangulation, misdemeanor assault, reckless endangerment & child endangerment.
The original assault of ex-girlfriend Lydia Nam resulted in no charges for the singer in April 2013. Nam didn’t report the incident until 7 months later.
http://dayandadream.com/2014/05/07/the-dream-arrested-for-felony-assault-in-nyc/
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link
urgh
― sitting on a claud all day gotta make your butt numb (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
wow whata dickhead
― imago all the sheeple (Spottie), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I thought I was growing desensitized to musicians doing repulsive things, but this is next-level vile. Disgusting.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:07 (nine years ago) link
jeez
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
just terrible and depressing.
― goole, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 16:25 (nine years ago) link
wow fuck him
― steendriver dysphoria hoos (The Reverend), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:25 (nine years ago) link
grim
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like a truly horrible incident. yet another musician whose music I love that I now will never be able to hear the same way again.
― ginuwine's cousin (monotony), Thursday, 8 May 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
What an asshole. Not really able to enjoy his music anymore atm.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
this is up now fyi
― johnny crunch, Monday, 7 July 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
this is really fun
― johnny crunch, Monday, 7 July 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
beatjack i never knew i needed
― schlump, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 00:54 (nine years ago) link
so stoked for this download. 1977 had some pretty dope songs imo, though super cheesy.
― marc iv, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 01:33 (nine years ago) link
yeah this is really fun
― schlump, Wednesday, 9 July 2014 02:25 (nine years ago) link
♫ wedding bells ♫ is p t bombish idk im feeling this hard
all?i'll? have a moment like hell nah he aint rightaint your typemy sister like hell nah she aint rightshe aint your typewe aint right for each other
fuck itit's nothing
if all was perfect im sure there still would be somethin
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 26 July 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2014/11/the-dream-beyond-the-lights-interview.html
i for one would like to hear a 'private property' dream vocals demo if that exists pls
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 13:35 (nine years ago) link
sez two part album "crown" - "more of what you expect from me" & "jewel" - "all those records that i write for ppl that i usually give away"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NfaGJJUCTg
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 7 December 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/3lxi/the-dream-fruition
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
I dig this
― 龜, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
hey, this is good!
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
― 龜, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
this is okay!
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 December 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
LQ rip of his new single prod by tricky & featuring T.I. ... dare i say it sounds GOOD? http://nahright.com/news/2014/12/30/the-dream-ft-t-i-thats-my-shit/
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link
and by that i mean "good" not kanye's good
on some "i luv your girl" shit or maybe a reaction to "i don't mind"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
i know how to push that buttontrust me, y'all just fuckin
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 20:42 (nine years ago) link
too bad I had to add Terius to the list of people I'll never consciously listen to again
― Simon H., Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/food/main%20Valua%20Vitaly%20shutterstock_51910012.jpg
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
'that's my shit' is the best dream song since love king
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 1 January 2015 09:37 (nine years ago) link
aka the last time he made a good song
Also into fruition.
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 17 January 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link
he's playing the new EPs he did with tricky for writers today -- i'm not going but i'm allowing myself to get hyped up
@3rikathe EPs as one whole entity is special too. (you'll get it soon.) all genres & classic "love vs"-type of flowing, lush songs & transitions.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 4 February 2015 00:19 (nine years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hSNromRfXkc
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 19 February 2015 01:59 (nine years ago) link
great interview. i especially enjoyed the bit about people paying dream not to work on anything for 90 days at a time in the lead up to working with them
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link
I really wish they'd asked him about Electrik Red
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 February 2015 02:32 (nine years ago) link
i don't think the 90 hold thing is for real, ebro just speculated it and the-dream went "it's something like that." probably more accurately when beyonce or whoever is in album mode they just pay him to stay in town in case they need him.
― raccoon tanuki dye dashiki nefertiti edges kinky (some dude), Thursday, 19 February 2015 04:57 (nine years ago) link
er 90 day hold
i just heard "that's my shit" and was very immediately grabbed. tbh i didn't even remember what his voice sounded like so i didn't know who it was and had to google random lyrics and t.i.
― dyl, Saturday, 14 March 2015 06:44 (nine years ago) link
'that's my shit' is my favorite song this year
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 14 March 2015 08:22 (nine years ago) link
lousy song imo
i was listening to the radio recently and as a song faded out this litte voice goes "cool beans!" and it was Terius in the studio for an interview. the most interesting thing he said was that he usually saves his really songwriter-y songs for other artists and only occasionally puts things like "Right Side Of My Brain" on his album, but is doing more stuff like that for this new album.
― some dude, Saturday, 14 March 2015 11:19 (nine years ago) link
on what planet is that song 'lousy'. it's perfect
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 14 March 2015 21:16 (nine years ago) link
it's aight
― raih dednelb (The Reverend), Saturday, 14 March 2015 21:50 (nine years ago) link
below avg for terius
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
gtfo
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
it's the best record he's done in 5 years ... perfectly understated, great production, conceptually sound, feels real
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 14 March 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
i wouldn't say it's his best record in 5 years but it's the most early solo terius thing he's done in a hot minute
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 15 March 2015 01:53 (nine years ago) link
to me those are synonymous but ymmv
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 15 March 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
YOU GUYS:
http://genius.com/the_dream
some serious fucking american music history here. unbelievable. there are twenty Beyoncé 'Fela' tracks lying around somewhere!!! ahhhh!
― mingalaba, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
loolI said “Okay, well, I would do this and this to it. Other than that, make sure you keep that ‘fish filet’ line in there because it’s the ghettoest thing I’ve ever heard, and it’s awesome.”
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 23:58 (nine years ago) link
"Like, can I go back to my habitat on the golf course?"
― just sayin, Thursday, 19 March 2015 00:23 (nine years ago) link
loving this
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 March 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link
Admit it, we'd all flip for a Dream memoir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD8gSs6hUMM
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2015 01:00 (eight years ago) link
I only wish this were longer
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 April 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link
https://instagram.com/p/019QA8sz4q/?taken-by=thekingdream
― tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Friday, 3 April 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link
Crown is a bit disappointing after That's My Shit and Fruition. Both of those are great and Throw It Back is nice but the remaining three fall short.
― longneck, Friday, 10 April 2015 07:00 (eight years ago) link
eh i think they're all pretty great so far
― goole, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 21:57 (eight years ago) link
i like all i need the most but for me this is less immed catchy than royalty ep
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link
i only like 'that's my shit' and 'all i need'
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link
"throw it back" was the one i really liked even tho it's pretty short
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:34 (eight years ago) link
i found it kinda repetitious
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 22:39 (eight years ago) link
more TMZ lyrics
― And let’s say a new Hozier comes along, and Spotify outbids you (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 23:44 (eight years ago) link
starting off this ep with "i know you think you're out of my league / but i'm tryna tell you i'm in my prime": terius is somehow always even more unedifying than you expect these days
― lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 08:58 (eight years ago) link
yeah that song sucks
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 17 April 2015 14:50 (eight years ago) link
so did the whole ep after it but not in a particularly interesting way
― lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link
"cedes benz" made me want to listen to "hit it on the road"
'that's my shit' is still A+ classic to me, song after it was kinda cool in that dramatic way that makes you feel like you're at the climactic moment of a film, the rest of it was zzzz
― deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 17 April 2015 15:20 (eight years ago) link
It's nice but rarely special. Your review was on point, deej.
― longneck, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link
yeah i've come to love 'that's my shit.' very reminiscent of the early singles.
― Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link
I still really haven't come around to that's my shit completely but the 'she met you out tryna find me' line is nice
― johnny crunch, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:37 (eight years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, 23 May 2013 18:31 Bookmark
https://open.spotify.com/album/21NBVHJWyX8BGcBajPrHFg
ooh i was not aware that rtd had since put these together
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 11:39 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5MIV31Ep80
most impt thing to know is that carl mo (in posting the dirty version on youtube) (he produced it) has inadvertently revealed that terry was known during this period as KASHMERE!!
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 11:42 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/62644-the-dream-releases-sam-cooke-covers-album-iamsam/
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link
didn't that make the rounds earlier?
― Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:41 (eight years ago) link
let the boy cooke, that's all i'm asking
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 14:58 Bookmark
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:45 (eight years ago) link
wonder if he'd ever stoop so low as to do a full saadiq retro album on his sam cooke shit. mightn't even be so bad?
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 14:57 Bookmark
goddamn i'm good
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 23 December 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link
lol props rtc
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
GenesisJanuary 8The-Dream x Tidal
Do we think this is an LP? Just a single?
― mingalaba, Thursday, 7 January 2016 01:12 (eight years ago) link
Lol tidal
― Spottie, Thursday, 7 January 2016 03:41 (eight years ago) link
The-Dream is the new Prince*
*releasing music exclusively on Tidal where nobody will hear it
― some dude, Thursday, 7 January 2016 04:04 (eight years ago) link
does anyone actually tidal
http://thekingdream.com
― johnny crunch, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
i do
― maura, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
i did for a while but when my credit card # changed i didn't feel motivated to update my billing info
― some dude, Friday, 8 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
any non-professionals actually use tidal
― Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 8 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
these songs are boring :(
― johnny crunch, Friday, 8 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link
I use Tidal but I don't even want to listen to this. I don't need excessive art in my rnb. :-/
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 8 January 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link
So Crown Jewel leaked and it sounds like reference tracks for... hits?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 10 April 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
not sure exactly what u mean but they do sortof remind me of his vers of betcha gon know but no where near as good as that obv
― johnny crunch, Monday, 11 April 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link
I basically meant it's pop terius and i just discovered how much I've missed him?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 11 April 2016 14:11 (seven years ago) link
1st time in paris sounds p good yea tho idk i dont really hear 'hits' here.. if anything this sounds closer to his 1977 terius album imo
― johnny crunch, Friday, 15 April 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link
there shd also maybe be a 'boat' rmx w a lil yachty verse
― johnny crunch, Friday, 15 April 2016 00:58 (seven years ago) link
The main thing about this to me is that it's thoroughly uncool. And the lack of coolness - or attempts at being cool - is just such a relief. He sounds free again.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 15 April 2016 06:42 (seven years ago) link
This is totally the best thing he's done since Love King. The 80s teen-movie gloss on "Love Me Back" is a really good fit.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 15 April 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCLC5rVp9ek
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 April 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR8BeN-AiN4&ebc=ANyPxKoAIOwLDCdFtY949sabhNraQ39tYi9MENQnir27uNXHOYPG5Shi20ylbbmgxQTIiw1oHXtoCXt6A_RuvC1DhcN2Y4czYA
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 April 2016 00:29 (seven years ago) link
OMG, this is niiiiiiiiiiiiiice
I reviewed an earlier leaked version in July before it (the album) got yanked. How much different is it?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 April 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link
Nothing from Crown, but ten tracks so I'm guessing a couple of more songs?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 18 April 2016 06:31 (seven years ago) link
new Tinashe track written by Terius (with lots of his backing vocals across the track) and co-produced with Tricky Stewart. any other big Terius writing/production credits in the past few months? I feel like he's been quiet, even on the writing tip.
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link
got a good one on the Usher alb too
― Spottie, Tuesday, 20 September 2016 05:04 (seven years ago) link
yeah "bump" on the usher album is good
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 September 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
woah 'bump' is excellent, thanks for the tip. reminds me of some of their best writing work for Mariah.
― mingalaba, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 08:21 (seven years ago) link
ma kyai bu
― have you ever even read The Drudge Report? Have you gone on Stormfron (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link
hauq lah? ayan kyah ba deh.
― mingalaba, Sunday, 25 September 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
he had two new dream songs on the radio recently, slow one lemon lean is real nice
― schlump, Monday, 26 September 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link
I don't want to derail the Solange thread with this, b/c it seems like a conversation nobody wants to have, but I've had a hard time listening to this dude since the domestic assault allegations. I haven't cracked why these kinds of allegations stick to some artists but bounce of off others, but I imagine the fact that the allegations came against The-Dream at a time when his career was in a lull actually ended up working in his favor, since nobody was paying attention to him. So he got a pass, but it's all I can think about when I hear him now, and I cringe every time I hear him on "F.U.B.U."
― Evan R, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
new one with sevyn is decent too
― ||||||||, Thursday, 3 November 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
New one with Sevyn is incredible despite being obviously in debt to You Da One
― boxedjoy, Friday, 4 November 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link
Girl we like Susan SarandonGirl we go back, let's go back like old times
― johnny crunch, Friday, 9 December 2016 19:18 (seven years ago) link
yea lemon lean is nice
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 17 December 2016 20:28 (seven years ago) link
really liked "Rih-Flex" on a first listen this morning
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link
frank ocean song so embarrassing
― schlump, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
This EP is vile.
― Evan R, Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:38 (seven years ago) link
The whole thing is so lifeless and sexist and hateful. "College Daze" is as bad as anything The Weeknd has done.
― Evan R, Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
Terius stated at his Seattle show last week that his new album is dropping in 2 weeks...
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 03:03 (seven years ago) link
genesis is uncommonly bad
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link
yeah its horrible. the 50 shades song code blue is nice tho.
― fo, fo, fo, fo (Spottie), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link
one month passes...Terius stated at his Seattle show last week that his new album is dropping in 2 weeks...― mingalaba, Monday, February 20, 2017 9:03 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkthree months pass...
Terius stated at his Seattle show last week that his new album is dropping in 2 weeks...― mingalaba, Monday, February 20, 2017 9:03 PM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
three months pass...
― Evan R, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
"bedroom calling pt 2" with chromeo kinda knocks
― k3vin k., Sunday, 10 June 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
Agree. Its super good Yamaha-esque pop Terius.
He's been threatening to release Sex Tapes Vol 1, 2 and 3 on his instagram for the past few weeks, but i'm not holding my breathe...
― mingalaba, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
It's out. 40 track 3 part album. No features.
― mingalaba, Friday, 21 December 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link
Dare I?
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 21 December 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link
have the same trepidation lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 21 December 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link
he is out of his mind
― J0rdan S., Friday, 21 December 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We Done? Yeah y’all keep leaving me out! History will judge you, this catalogue ain’t goin no where! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sextapejustkilledallRandBniggas?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sextapejustkilledallRandBniggas</a>! I also just heard I can’t go to canada</p>— THE-DREAM (@TheKingDream) <a href="
We Done? Yeah y’all keep leaving me out! History will judge you, this catalogue ain’t goin no where! #sextapejustkilledallRandBniggas! I also just heard I can’t go to canada— THE-DREAM (@TheKingDream) December 21, 2018
― johnny crunch, Friday, 21 December 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
Way to bury the lede.
― Andy K, Friday, 21 December 2018 13:09 (five years ago) link
So... Anything worth hearing?
― Frederik B, Friday, 21 December 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link
Yeah, most of it is either good or great, actually. 40 tracks is a lot to get through in between Christmas preparations though and terius starting it all off with orgasmic moans (a low point) means I won’t be playing this in the kitchen while the kids are home for the holidays.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 22 December 2018 09:26 (five years ago) link
I'm gonna try to hear it all by Xmas Day. (Or XXX Day, as Mr. Nash would have it.)
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 22 December 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
"Change You" is almost....profound.
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 22 December 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
halfway through the second song and...ok this is alright. early tho
― k3vin k., Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:27 (five years ago) link
um, ask me tomorrow, but "honest" might be a terius HOFer
― k3vin k., Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:33 (five years ago) link
which one??
― johnny crunch, Monday, 24 December 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
oh, the first one
― k3vin k., Monday, 24 December 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
there are def jams here
― johnny crunch, Monday, 24 December 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, December 22, 2018 2:41 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
dont give a hundred to a wack ass ni**a in yer past
― johnny crunch, Monday, 24 December 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link
just hearing radio killa again is nice & all i need honestly
― johnny crunch, Monday, 24 December 2018 01:24 (five years ago) link
I listened to the whole thing yesterday, but I also went back to his first two solo albums and parts of his third for a sense of contrast.
So: this new behemoth is nice, you know? It's atmospheric and at the least has a skein of what most of us love about him but honestly it's lavish mood music for a stoned orgy - not the concentrated doses of T. Nash that one might desire. I'll definitely come back to this, though.
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 24 December 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
(That said, there ARE standouts, and hopefully he'll whittle this down to a 10-12 track collection.)
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 24 December 2018 01:54 (five years ago) link
i winnowed menage a trois: sextape vol. 1, 2, 3 down to ~40 minutes, these are the best songs imo
gorgeousreadychallengerback to my roomlifebedroomi likeon the regularchange you
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 25 February 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link
ok thank you I’ve been meaning to give them a listen
― k3vin k., Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link
https://www.gq.com/story/the-dream-2023-grammy-songwriter-of-the-year-nominee-beyonce-renaissance-interview/amp
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 15 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
He’s working on a documentary on the making of Love/Hate for release in 2023.
― k3vin k., Monday, 23 January 2023 17:40 (one year ago) link
I just got to the chorus of “Change You” for the first time. My lord.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Thursday, 15 June 2023 21:12 (nine months ago) link
Just stumbled across this and found it so charming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bEu7Q-dLXk
― wherewasyou, Friday, 12 January 2024 00:31 (two months ago) link