6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration)

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the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

also: prince's birthday!

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

also: anna kournikova's birthday!

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

3pm EST = 7pm GMT = gah, I'll be out. acceptable to take laptop to pub? and demand use of wifi to hear this?

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dude any chance I could change the thread title so I don't have to keep loading the words 'Fuck my brains out' in huge letters at work for the rest of the year?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aha. Secret Terius Twitter. Just unlocked yesterday? http://twitter.com/#!/MrTeriusNash

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is not very terius, matt, but *sigh* i guess

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

So what is he releasing? HQ versions of some of those ustream sessions or what?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

the kanye board crew seems to think it's a full double single

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

of fuck my brains out and body work--that pic up thread is from the radiokillarecords.com gallery

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

we need to step our stan game up

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw the bookmark will retain the "fuck" even if the thread title is changed

positive rapper (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

at least someone still retains a fuck eh

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

rtfu

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

we need to step our stan game up

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, June 7, 2011 12:38 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah. How did they find out about the locked Twitter? Anyway, that Twitter feed says Love IV this year, Chronicles of Nikki (+ a book) in February of 2012. Per the Kanye board/ustream he's already recording for the next album tentatively titled Computer Love.

And he has a new protege named Casha? He's working on her album now.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

Damn now it's 6pm EST

Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

UGH

The Brainwasher, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

at least it's confirmed!

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't believe I woke up to this news. Terius is one sly barn cat.

I hope this is awesome.

Captain Ahab, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay it's 6 pm now

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i promise you're not as agitated as the people on the kanye board

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, but that seems appropriate

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

on some bullshit. argh. gotta be at drinks with friends um....now. fuck. will be missing this.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

so did he mean PST or...

Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, now we know how Harold Camping's followers felt.

Evan R, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

evan!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

but yes, speculation on the kanye board is that dream meant 9 pm

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

est

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's not even 6/7/2011 anymore where i am (well to be perfectly accurate it won't be for another month).

Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

he just posted the sleeve

damn, live blogging someone else blogging

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hope he's put more effort into these tracks than he has the cover art...

Number None, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't worry about it, this lp was great:

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's right it's the
2011 Porsche Turbo S

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

feel like the link btwn these tracks might be a little forced but fuk my brains out is sounding dope

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

BODY WORK
and
FUCK MY BRAINS OUT

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

that little melody in the transition is the best part

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

On a phone with no flash. Are these downloadable at all?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

meh, yeah (respectively)

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

these songs aren't awesome :(

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Welcome to the Site of the Most Loved, Hated, Controversial, and Honest Artist Today...

Radio Killa Records... Home of Real Artists.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

these songs aren't awesome :(

― sean gramophone, Tuesday, June 7, 2011 5:29 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like body work alright. feels like an album track tho

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

or some element is missing

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

it feels like a co-producer is missing

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

they definitely sound like they were finished last night at 3am when he was drunk off patron and half-distractedly chatting with fans on the internet

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Am I the only one that's way into these? I'm listening to them on nice headphones and they sound incredible. And "Fuck My Brains Out" is the funkiest thing I think I've ever heard from him.

Evan R, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like them more with every listen, which is pretty much always the case with dream stuff for me.

must say, though, i'm glad i don't really mind 'odious' lyrics a la make-up bag. because fuck my brains out is pretty odious

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think they're gonna be on the album anyway

Number None, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

have been letting these spin for the last hour or so, and liking them more than i did at first. "body work" is dece but slight. i guess it works okay, but hardly stands out, feels generic. "fuck my brains out" is fucking repulsive, and i wish i could get past that, cuz evan's right, it's a funky-ass track.

so FMBO rips prince on the bridge, obviously, but the delivery of "she know i'm a virgo, and i'm impossible to please" reminds me of ... something. shit, i can't put my finger on it! bugging the hell out of me.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

why does he start meowing

i feel like i'll like these more after they go around a few times, sure. and yeah lick it/stick it is sorta a blunt new low.

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 01:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i wonder if terius/anyone is aware of the new t-pain song "booty work" that goes "lemme see that booty work"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

im not feeling particularly repulsed by fuck my brains out tbh. i mean its gross and mean but...

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

also i mean it fucking bangs, so, its pretty easy to overlook how gross hes being

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh who cares

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a post-odd future world, let's get real

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

that song is everywhere and i've always strongly suspected t-pain's success was what gave terius the confidence to embark on a solo career, so yeah definitely (xpost)

Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

alright i didn't know if "booty work" was getting play elsewhere -- i've only seen "best love song" on the charts, which i've never heard

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

"body work" is kinda cool, tho not much of a song -- FMBO is pretty great i think

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah Terius sent some song to T-Pain on ustream last night, I think it was "body work" - maybe he's on the remix

The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah it's not charting real high nationally yet but i'm already sick of it -- which is weird because i love the omarion song it's a shameless rehash of

Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay, so i've spent nearly three hours with these on endless repeat, and i'm feeling p much at home. neither's great, but both solid, FMBO a bit better than that. and now that i've innoculated myself w lol desensitization germs, gross lyrics aren't really a problem. still a bit disappointed. neither track touches love king's highs.

and yeah, wtf is up with that "meh meh meh yeah" break between songs? is he anticipating his critics?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

My Records are intended for Sensual,sexual and intelligent people. Lovers and Lost Lovers a like.I Don't Want any New Fans! Cheers LOVECULT

contenderizer, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 03:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like both, but my first impression is mostly how heavy they are sonically compared to most of his work. Really thick and bass-dominant.

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Really perplexed by the "meh, meh, meh, yeah" part.

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Some of the production details on "Fuck My Brains Out" are amazing. That quick, cascading bass synth during the second verse!

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

wtf MEH MEH MEH MEH?

When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck my brains out is much improved from the demo.

When Zeester Met Koffie (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow that is a shit website

shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know you a cheater
but boy before you leave
fuck my brains out

god this guy.

shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck my brains out is much improved from the demo.

lol

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i entertain this fantasy that artists who seem gifted in one area will possess overarching aesthetic ~visions~ that work in and connect with other contexts, that talented musicians will be able, for instance, to recognize and even produce good graphic design and prose. i suppose that this is a elitist fantasy, in that it snootily elevates what i take to be a "refined artistic sensibility" (harumph) over sheer will and/or the accidental gifts of providence.

then along comes this web site to settle my hash

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

u ever seen a dream video?

shalmaneser (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

ha

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 06:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

well i'll be involuntarily singing "fuck my brains out" in inappropriate situations for the foreseeable future then

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 07:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

re: twitter - i saw optimum retweet him on monday, followed from there. for what it's worth.

haido, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love 'body work'

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Idg what contenderizer's issue w "fmbo" is - this is like textbook dreamisms

Fwiw I think body work is boring and if anyone else released it we'd be all "this sucks"

Fmbo is p dope though, although obv the-dream is an all time rmde when it comes to a personality

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Body work just seems so stingey with the songwriting (although the-dream has been hit or miss w that for a minute) but typically he would make up for that w melodic generosity. "body work" has one barely-there melodic hook

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I Don't Want any New Fans! Cheers LOVECULT

his last few single choices explained

Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ha. It kind of explains the entire arc of his career

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm kidding it's a total cliche sour grapes thing to say once your career has clearly peaked

Shippie_Ipley_Dope (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

fmbo is kind of an unfortunately shitty gimmick chorus but overall i'm cool with both of these - better than the majority of love king in my esteemed opinion

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

this whole "i don't know if i'm gonna be with u" transition is just killing me, welcome back dreamer

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've felt a little less engaged with each album, but I'm really felling this new suite instantly.

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Huh idk why it's not hitting me at all like that

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Body-Work sounds better with each listen for me but it's definitely just the prelude groove to "FMBO" for me

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

For me, I mean

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know what you mean abt body work being sparse melodically (for the-dream) but i kind of love how it grinds away

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

FMBO is great. Totally reprehensible, but just so damn great.

'She know I'm a Virgo and I'm impossible to please."

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think fmbo is reprehensible on it's own, it just makes the dream come off poorly as a human being. Song itself doesn't strike me as partic objectionable nb I may not have given the lyrics a complete close reading

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

His king-dick fantasies are a hell of a lot more imaginative and memorable than most

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, his sex is so good that his ex- who is leaving him for cheating is demanding a last round of amazing sex, etc. etc. etc.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

For whatever reason, Make-Up Bag was light enough that it felt like a humourous toss-off and I didn't find it as skeezy as some dudes did, but this is just undeniably shitty behaviour. But it's a killer song, so, you know.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think anyone has brought up the coda yet, but it's gorgeous. "I'll always miss THAT KISS / A lover's delight" all multitracked harmonies. It's really gentle and pretty.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh noes, no strings sex! odious! reprehensible! literally have no idea what u prudes are moaning about

in particular the notion that this song makes him come off poorer "as a human being" than the trite plodding idiocy of 'make up bag' or god idk a hundred other little things over the years is just laughable

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

bnw, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol

I think it's fair to say this has a pretty high narcissism factor relative to his other stuff. But yah idg what is objectionable about it

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe there should be a "but i denied her/mind-blowing sex/i denied her/out of respect" coda

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

rtc otm -- not even nearly as odious as "I luv your girl"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's check the odi-ometer

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think theres def an increased level of egotism relative to "i luv your girl" but maybe it's that the music is a lot less coy

lebroner (D-40), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh jeez. i have no issues with no string sex. seriously.

what's gross about FMBO is how after a highly public break up he's written a song about how no matter how much of a jerk is, his ex-girlfriend is in thrall to his awesome magical penis. i mean, it's a good song, but it's still all sorts of gross.

and yes, he's done angry/bitter/vaguely misogynist breakup songs before i.e. nikki, abyss, whatever, but in all those cases there was the vague rationalization of he's angry and was cheated on and there's a source of the gross bitterness.

but if you don't find something kind of distasteful about a guy bragging about how desperate his ex-wife was for his dick even after he cheated on her immediately after they had a kid, etc. etc. then i can't explain it.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

but it's not an objectionable song. so i don't know why i'm arguing this.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince as i assume hes doing 24/7 he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

has he rhymed milian with "vill-i-an" yet

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince as i assume hes doing 24/7 he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig

― ☂ (max), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:54 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

Right, this. Thank you, max, for being more succinct and articulate than me.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol alex when u first heard 'living a lie' did u also shed a little tear imagining what nivea would think when she found out about terius and rihanna's shock affair

not every song in the world is directly autobiographical

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's clearly what he's suggesting by saying a song about your ex tearfully begging you for mindblowing sex is kinda distasteful coming from a recently divorced dude

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

like, I dig this song but I don't feel the pretend those who think its piggish are being absurd.

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

the need to pretend, i mean

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah but my point is the "recently divorced" alarm is just being activated arbitrarily here, like is there some milian-specific detail i'm missing in this?

and alex even if you wanna go there how does "i don't need another bitch to lie to me" not fit in with your vague bitter rationalization etc anyway?

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

max otm

but i think ppl kinda demand piggishness in their modern R&B

or at least artists think we do

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

my other point is how is it any more "piggish" than he's ever been since the very beginning once you take a couple of raunchy couplets out of the equation, this is just beyond superficial stuff

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jeez. Ok. I concede, I was wrong and I shouldn't have read it in. I'd probably find it vaguely distasteful context-regardless, and on reflection I probably find Abyss even less pleasant. None of this means that I don't enjoy them as songs, and I have no desire to be the voice of ridiculous moral outrage or whatever.

It was a vague impression and I stupidly decided to defend my rxn when the idea that the story as written/sung/narrated has weird gender overtones was declared to be prudish and laughable, etc. But yeah, it's not 'reprehensible', I should have picked my words more carefully. Thread can continue along normal course now, sorry for the interruption.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think you can be kinda bummed/grossed out in his transformation from chubby, unlikely loverman to sweaty las vegas sleazeball without it being moral outrage

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

actually, listening to FMBO, i dont really see how this is all that piggish, allowing for some stupid/juvenille boasts, though i expect those kinds of lyrics from the dream - i mean, isnt this what he does most consistently? its not as vulgarly/crudely personal as say, r kelly might do. if i didnt know about his public breakup, and tbh i barely do - he/this doesnt have as much celeb appeal as say if the song was sung by chris brown a few years back - i dont think i would read it that way.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

or it could just be that i really like both songs so dont care

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

fwiw i had a kid right around the same time as Nash/Milian and my general mindstate then of "how the fuck do you even think of creeping or walking out on somebody at that moment in your life" was the main source of my take on "Make Up Bag" and as the instigator of that whole line of conversation i will say nothing about these new songs strikes me as beyond his usual relatively inoffensive skeeviness.

Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

xxxp Last word on this.

There's pretty much nothing on Love/Hate that's has the same sort of tone. "I Luv Your Girl" got cited a couple of times, and while picking up someone else's girlfriend isn't like...gentlemanly...or whatever, but what was triggering my sensor or whatever only really surfaces in Nikki, Love vs Money Part 2, Nikki Part 2 and Abyss. Oh, and Hater.

I'm not saying women aren't objectified in his other songs, but normally they're being wooed or he's having sex with them, or being admired, or whatever. They're either sex objects or objects of affection. Just....when he gets angry/dismissive/vitriolic about women it feels uglier somehow.

But again, FMBO does this less than the others, maybe, and I really like all of the above songs (except for Hater). It was an observation about tone and content, not quality, because I like FMBO better than most of Love King.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

from chubby, unlikely loverman to sweaty las vegas sleazeball

good career summary

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

personally i just find laziness and carelessness way uglier than angry/dismissive/vitriolic at the end of the day

if he's a pig here then he's a sprightly attentive one for a change and not the useless fat fuck of 'make up bag' and 'panties to the side' or the guy who trashed 'february love' by breaking off for a hatercentric tirade about his taxes and owning his publishing or w/e

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i mean anybody who says "ahem, this guys a douche, no thanks" won't get a cross word out of me, but "FMBO" is the kind of "big ol' butt" style, heavily detailed and absurd "i'm a douche and loving it" shit that I'm not above enjoying. I don't know if it ranks with my favorite dream songs, but I'll take uptempo-and-nasty over the more indulgent slow jams of late

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

also it's not a great tune or anything but i have much love for 'hater' and its succinctly otm depiction of the evil side of wanting someone

"hit that shit like a parked car" one of his finest lines too

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

all the Prince comparisons had me looking forward to another "Fast Car"/"Yamaha" jam and then i felt let down by those "Beat It" drums

kind of novel for him to put out these connected songs in advance instead of waiting until the LP to run them together, but i'm not really digging the transition between them

Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's more Ready For The World than Prince imo

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i mean anybody who says "ahem, this guys a douche, no thanks" won't get a cross word out of me, but "FMBO" is the kind of "big ol' butt" style, heavily detailed and absurd "i'm a douche and loving it" shit that I'm not above enjoying. I don't know if it ranks with my favorite dream songs, but I'll take uptempo-and-nasty over the more indulgent slow jams of late

― da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:48 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Prince comparisons always seem kind off to me, as with RTTW I kinda see The-Dream as one of those blouse wearing linn drum enthusiasts who came in his wake (if an especially ambitious) rather than a callback to the original article. Even on Love/Hate his perspective was more typically R&B assman, like ray parker jr.

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think this guy is more "Digital Display" and "Love You Down" than "When Doves Cry" or "Raspberry Beret."

xpost

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Prince thing doesn't make sense in other words

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

crossposted with croup

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

the problem, though, is that i don't think dream finds anything absurd about filming your girlfriend crying with mascara running down her face as she gets on her knees and pleads with you for one last fuck. it's totally straight faced.

xpost

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's not go crazy, there's clearly a ton of very direct Prince influence in his whole catalog, even if it doesn't need to be a critical reference point as often as it is

Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

well whether he realizes the absurdity or not, he's the kind of guy who bothers to follow a sex jam with "take a shower/take a shower/meet me in half an hour" so god bless him

xpost some dude, I wouldn't be referencing Ready For The World and '80s Ray Parker Jr. if I didn't think Prince was a valid critical reference point. I just think it's further removed than a simple "he's like Prince"

da croupier, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

As dirty as Prince is, he's not the sleazo that RP Jr is – in the best sense.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

my "let's not go crazy" was directed at Alfred's "the Prince thing doesn't make sense" craziness

Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I overstated it. Like croup, I hear more RFTW and second-tier eighties R&B (we haven't even mentioned Maze + Beverly) than Prince, in part because Nash recycles his own audio/aural tricks.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

um hey i don't suppose anyone remembers that video that went round for a bit a couple of years ago, it was like some random guy coming on 80s public access tv doing this totally straight heartfelt prince tribute act and he was all dressed up? the song turned out to be pretty rad and i think the chorus was like "her name is [silly complicated name like letishikitarita]"

sorry but i've been trying to find it for like 20 minutes

r|t|c, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

let's not go crazy, there's clearly a ton of very direct Prince influence in his whole catalog, even if it doesn't need to be a critical reference point as often as it is

― Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, June 8, 2011 2:04 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

actually, LET'S GO CRAZY

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

(like the prince song)

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

("lets go crazy")

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i remember it illuminated a lot for me about Ne-Yo when he picked a block of videos on BET and most of the Prince/MJ was Diamonds & Pearls/Dangerous era -- i think The-Dream's reference points are definitely more first generation Minneapolis sound by comparison but there's definitely some of that late '80s stuff in the mix too

Letters From Iwhiney Gima (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 18:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's totally a sleaze, but both of these get full support. Now why didn't Love King ever come out on vinyl?

matt2, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

And continuing the Dream vs. Prince things, yeah Dream is an asshole, totally misogynistic, aggressive whereas Prince just loved the sex. Even his early 90's more aggressive stuff seemed to basically just worship the ass. My wife pointed this out to me once.

matt2, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

what's gross about FMBO is how after a highly public break up he's written a song about how no matter how much of a jerk is, his ex-girlfriend is in thrall to his awesome magical penis. i mean, it's a good song, but it's still all sorts of gross

― Alex in Montreal

alex has recanted, but i'm still slightly bothered (though, as i said way upthread, i got over my initial squeamishness pretty quickly). given the dreamer's insistence on his own controversial "honesty" and the crassly public nature of contemporary celebrity, i think it's disingenuous to treat this as though it's completely unrelated the events of the artist's recent life. of course the song isn't necessarily autobiographical, but he's pushing buttons nonetheless.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

it would be nice if when terius was listening to prince ... he took notes on how to be a freak without being a pig

― max

max and matt2's points about prince's sexual excesses OTM. prince's lyrics may be a bit grotesque ("masturbating with a magazine"), but they're generally focused on his desire and her allure. terry's only using her desperate, panting desire to paint a picture of his own complete sexual dominance. it's not like this kind of boastful excess is unique in dude's career, quite the opposite, but sometimes things work for you, sometimes they don't. i mean, shit, i dig "panties to the side"...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh noes, no strings sex! odious! reprehensible! literally have no idea what u prudes are moaning about

in particular the notion that this song makes him come off poorer "as a human being" than the trite plodding idiocy of 'make up bag' or god idk a hundred other little things over the years is just laughable

― r|t|c, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:45 PM (3 hours ago)

thank you

positive rapper (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.

goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh wtg goole, now you made dream feel bad

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

've never been too offended by the pig-talk cos none of it seemed even a little bit real to me. i'm sure he gets laid plenty but idk, the guy's kind of unattractive.

OTM. So is Ne-Yo.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do you mean "real"? the talk is the same regardless of his PUA stats, right? do you mean that it's in character, an artistic device that says nothing about terry's actual feelings & attitudes? maybe so, but it can still be unpleasant.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

or hilarious, or sexy, or w/e.

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

His swinishness grates when music and arrangements fail him and he looks like another wobbly-voiced asshole. I prefer the swinishness when it's encased in ballad form, cuz he tends to self-absorption (i.e. what she is doing to him) instead of lashing out.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's sweet exceptions ("February Love").

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean with a lot of other singers who say this kind of shit it either seems like a crazy story they are getting into, or it has some basis in life. with T i just get the feeling that he's basically lying to me. i'm like, fuck out of here man that didn't happen. i don't know why, just, all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.

goole, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

all the women he sings about feel a bit 'canadian girlfriend' to me.

lol

Number None, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

the funniest/grossest/least believable aspect of FMBO is when she "turns around and gets on her knees"

☂ (max), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol goole, and okay, that's OTM and actually helps

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 23:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

the chorus to fmbo kind of sounds like a fast car retread

british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i feel like new the-dream after a few years of listening to him all starts to sound like a retread of the best songs on the first record

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

deej otm

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not sure if I just have Dream fatigue or if he has actually fell off but this "body work/fuck my brains out" song is v. dull

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

thirded

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

body work was pretty dull, at this point in my life I just can't accept another the-dream falsetto

british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I used to think Ne-Yo was muy sexy until I saw him without a hat. :/

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

the phrasing of the lyrics on fmbo totally reminds me of prince, the way he pauses between each line, the downward lilt, etc.

feel like I don't need to have a strong opinion on the-dream anymore tho

british sb power (dayo), Thursday, 9 June 2011 00:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

the chorus to fmbo kind of sounds like a fast car retread

totally but it's super-enjoyable nonetheless

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

I used to think Ne-Yo was muy sexy until I saw him without a hat. :/

hahahahaha

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

def. hoping for something *fresh* from him on love iv

fuck it i would still w with an album of retreads tho

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

the thing is i really don't mind it when terius doesn't bother with ~songcraft~, concentrating on ridic goonish punchlines and sweetspot production satusfies me immensely cuz they're kind of terius stripped to his essence. like one of my fav the-dream songs will always be "hit it on the road" which encapsulates a ton of what i love about him

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

re: his lying, i dont think gravitas has ever been one of his strongpoints - his weakness as a singer/someone who can convey believable emotion is kind of both his achilles heel (yo dream! stick to producing etc) and what makes ppl seem to love him so much.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

smh @ u dudes saying his career has peaked before the new bieber album has even dropped

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 08:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol uhhh wait, you lads are coming out with this blasé uninspired retread stuff only now after love king?? these two songs are so much more switched-on than that stuff i can't even

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

even on the level of preaching to the converted (which i don't necessarily dispute) theyre infinitely more satisfying

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 09:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I said the same thing about some songs on love king it's just something that gets worse w time and continued repititions of the formula. Really surprised you think these are some big step above love king, feels like same old same old to me

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Like I was willing to write my dampening enthusiasm off to my own fatigue circa love king, at this pt it just feels unavoidable

lebroner (D-40), Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah idk, like i say i'm still coming to this from within the morbid terius bubble - i'm not nearly as invested as i was with the lvm material - but the general point is that this has got me back in the bubble to begin with

do think it's a bit sloppy to say "with time and continued repetitions" though, it's obviously the quality of the repetition we're disagreeing over rather than just some sort of automatic ennui kicking in

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

k3v and finney been quiet, what r u guys saying

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i have no idea wtf he is talking about on twitter 98% of the time.

bnw, Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

smh @ u dudes saying his career has peaked before the new bieber album has even dropped

― the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:48 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

fwiw i was referring purely to his career as a solo performer -- dream and tricky aren't producing smashes as often as they used to but i don't doubt they could turn out rihanna or beyonce or usher's next #1

51 Cent (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol uhhh wait, you lads are coming out with this blasé uninspired retread stuff only now after love king?? these two songs are so much more switched-on than that stuff i can't even

no. i came in very late, circa LK, and loved nearly everything on that record. went back and listened to the early stuff and found it all a bit samey when taken at once, but at least of equal quality. like both of these new tracks now that i've spent some time with them, but there's a noticable drop in immediate, jaw-on-the-floor quality. something's off...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Again, i don't think either of these will be on the album so i'm not really worried about the kind of throw-away nature of them.

Number None, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah there is a single he's gonna play on monday. so who knows what these two are; they are freebies.

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

naturally i have already steeled myself for them turning out to be lk session offcuts

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't really have any problem with more of the same.

Spo-Dee-O-Dee-Dopaliscious! (The Reverend), Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
i may never beat LH or LVM... back then i was the only one Doing me now........

the-dream's car of the summer (tpp), Thursday, 9 June 2011 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

...I don't masturbate nearly as much?

da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

(well there's an ILX Out Of Context post for ya)

da croupier, Thursday, 9 June 2011 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck it, this shit is dope

J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

really is - i've been jamming to it all day. love the final coda. hear a lot of the grinding, machinelike beatwork of the "love vs money"s in body work.

pearsonic, Friday, 10 June 2011 02:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

the vocals on the verses of "body work" are pretty unusual by his standards & yeah i dig all the grinding & whirring of the beat

J0rdan S., Friday, 10 June 2011 02:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah. I've now listened to Body Work and Fuck My Brains Out 18 and 36 times respectively, so I guess I dig this.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 10 June 2011 02:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

im worried about that Tweet - is he admitting self-defeat?

mingalaba, Monday, 13 June 2011 04:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

numbers don't lie

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 04:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 05:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Atlantic with a very timely expose on "R&B's Best-Kept Songwriting Secret"

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2011/06/r-bs-best-kept-songwriting-secret/240294/

gr8080, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

slate circa 2009 wants their swag back

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's firm in his own desires but ultimately respectful towards the women in his life

uh

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah that line stuck out for me too

Number None, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess it's an obvious dichotomy to draw but the whole "he's written some of the most successful pop hits of his time, but his solo career hasn't reached the same heights!" is a really boring hook for a story not to mention that it totally glossed over any nuance

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

also it's been the-dream angle for at least 2 years now

plus it's...not actually that uncommon that songwriter dudes don't become stars in their own right? it's not like babyface became a household name outside of r&b fans either. sticks out more because that's changed a lot in recent years i guess (and yeah dreamer's solo material being of such quality)

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Monday, 13 June 2011 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dream isn't as successful as Beyonce? Would ya look at that!

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

He's firm in his own desires but ultimately respectful towards the women in his life

Such a classic example of a writer projecting his own ideals onto a subject to justify liking that subject. It's like every piece praising some independent rapper b/c he doesn't talk about "bitches and hos," even if that rapper still talks about women in kind of queasy terms.

Evan R, Monday, 13 June 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

not a good piece

weird bibby fetish (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's not like babyface became a household name outside of r&b fans either.

actually he did!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, Babyface was huge for a while.

51 suggest gang (The Reverend), Monday, 13 June 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

sisilafami, Monday, 13 June 2011 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cue lex asking who Eric Clapton is

J0rdan S., Monday, 13 June 2011 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Babyface was so massive that I have to remind myself of the fact. Apart from the hundreds of hits he wrote for every R&B star of the era (including the entirety of the Waiting to Exhale soundtrack), he had "Whip Appeal," "It's No Crime," "When Can I See You," among others, on his own.

Don't forget "Take a Bow"!

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 June 2011 22:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i basically have nothing to say about these 2 new songs other than i like the pre-hook part of "fuck my brains out", reminds me of "i could never take the place of your man" a little. and the part where dream tries to make like engine noises with his mouth, it shouldn't work as well as it does

bite this display name (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 June 2011 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

so yeah "fuck my brains out" is the realness, kinda whatever on "body work" even though it seems like it should push all my terius buttons - luckily "FMBO" doesn't need "body work" to work

jag goo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

the hook on "fuck my brains out" is so great, so peak-era prince

jag goo (k3vin k.), Sunday, 19 June 2011 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

MEH
MEH
MEH
yeah
MEH
MEH
MEH
yeah

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Monday, 20 June 2011 04:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

On his twitter feed listing the songs that he wasn't constrained in writing them, he includes Umbrella, Single Ladies and this

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's actually a jam. #terrystan

pearsonic, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

everyone has a finger
but they can't point me to the light

r|t|c, Thursday, 23 June 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

totally head over heels for "FMBO" now - i'm all about the vocal-less first minute, makes me all

"body work" is probably his worst vocal performance ever

bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Saturday, 2 July 2011 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

uh, in spite of myself, i kind of love that celine dion song...

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Saturday, 2 July 2011 05:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

body work is so much more of a jam than fuck my brainz out

Jacques_Lamure, Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i only listened to this twice tbh

rosa parks did not sit on that bus for this shit (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 2 July 2011 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's more Ready For The World than Prince imo

― da croupier, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 1:51 PM (3 weeks ago)

wow yeah play "oh sheila" and then "yamaha" immediately after. mind blown

bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
The Internet LP is entitled '1977' and will be released under my real name Terius Nash not The-Dream. Shooting Videos for 1977 all this week
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
does not have a date but it will be released 4th quarter but i will give a 10 song Internet LP while you guys wait!!!! LOVE YOU.
4 minutes ago

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
for atleast one More Season! Also a free 10 song Internet album will be released by Aug 31st. LP 4 because of the Contract negotiations.....
5 minutes ago

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
LP4 is Underway I THE-DREAM have decided to go forward with "Diary Of A Madman" LP it almost didnt happen. So ill be in my DefJam uniform...

Number None, Monday, 1 August 2011 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

BTW NO ONE AT DEFJAM IS HAPPY ABOUT A FREE ALBUM LOL.... they are trying to stop it!

i wish instead of releasing records this guy's studio was just like a radio station you could tune into. he totally sits there putting records together super-fast or goofing around jamming on sam cooke songs, it would be nice to hear more than ever comes out.

sitcom neighbor (schlump), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 09:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

*crosses fingers*

Please let this happen.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

Posted this in the wrong thread. Whoops.

Anyway, Love Slave (http://www.hiphoprnbworld.net/?p=8089) is the first single from 1977, the free album. It's aight, fairly standard Terius love ballad, but there's some nice texture going on underneath. Hopefully it grows on me as much as the double single does.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really like this

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a nice look for him to go back to this -- sounds like something off his first album

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

His voice sounds like that of a man during the verses -- deeper with no trace of brattiness.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 01:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, i picked that up too

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

why is he singing like ron isley

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is alright though, maybe a bit too sparse

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds like a demo

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 05:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

apparently it is a demo.... for ron isley

LOL

(oboe interlude) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol very nice, bw

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

well ron isely will def sing it better

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha holy shit

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
@BigSean yo need that verse pimp

FUCK

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

:(

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 06:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

hol up hol up hol up hol up, meh meh meh meh

r|t|c, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

& kiss those omelette nights goodbye

his voice is real interesting on this

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 10:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
@BigSean yo need that verse pimp

FUCK

I think you mean ASS

Evan R, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

the fuck

Tim F, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

ghiberti!

max, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think

max, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah:

http://www.artic.edu/aic/exhibitions/ghiberti/index.html

max, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

love it

ogmor, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

What does it say at the bottom?

dutty whiney (The Reverend), Thursday, 4 August 2011 03:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

would love to find out how Def Jam are screwing him right now. Seriously is there any label with poorer label-artist relationships than Def Jam?

mingalaba, Thursday, 4 August 2011 05:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

i always forget that terius is a sculptor as well

lex pretend, Thursday, 4 August 2011 07:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

isnt he supposed to be executive vp at def jam? not that i can find any evidence of it other than himself announcing it on his twitter one time.

r|t|c, Thursday, 4 August 2011 07:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Whoa. That is an unexpected and kind of awesome album cover.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 4 August 2011 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's really gross

r|t|c, Thursday, 4 August 2011 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

latest dream projects via twitter: a ROCK BAND and designing a NEW AMERICAN CAR

(oboe interlude) (schlump), Monday, 8 August 2011 09:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds like he wants to work in the video game industry.

I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds like he might be working with WILLOW SMITH 0_o

mingalaba, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

well he's already written two of justin bieber's biggest singles

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 August 2011 08:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
Video Tmrw In NYC "Wake me When its Over" From 1977 Terius Nash

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

ALSO, WHAT

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
I'm Sorry Everyone I short changed you a couple of Times.... So I'm going back to Do a Video for Fancy!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

you terius followers are slacking on the revives

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
Im going to a Movie

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
think i need two twitters or maybe ill just start a blog.

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
Dont know what movie yet anyone. just trying to say something less thoughtful.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

the micro-level insight into his process you get from twitter is really interesting. like it seems like the genealogy of 1977 is him deciding to make a record called 1977, then designing a cover, then writing some of the songs, getting around to writing the song about his mom that he thought it'd be good to write, etc, the whole thing probably running up to the time of release. it's so weird! but it works for him.

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 09:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Murderer - inspired by the film Colombiana (i think?). first track we've heard from 1977.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 22 August 2011 07:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah idk about that one -- production is kinda cool tho

am i wrong to say those drums are influenced by "pon de floor"/"ass on the floor"/"girls run the world"

J0rdan S., Monday, 22 August 2011 07:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really dig it, although it could lose the fake nylon string guitar imo.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

to me it feels like the drums are just going for a cinematic 'marching snare' thing separate from pon de floor's vibe, but who knows

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i only listened once but thought the autotune was kinda killing his voice, some

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

that autotune is terrible. not in an "omg autotune is so terrible" kind of way but in "the autotune on this particular track is terrible"

low - murderer vs imogean heap - hide n seek

fauxmarc, Monday, 22 August 2011 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda love it

sean gramophone, Monday, 22 August 2011 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok i really like that. also thandie newton looking chick in the vid is a+

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 August 2011 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

eh.

Meat Loaf...in my vagina? (The Reverend), Monday, 22 August 2011 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

what the hell is this bullshit

karen d. foreskin (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 03:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 05:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

not on the record, incidentally:

1. WAKE ME WHEN IT´S OVER
2. USED TO BE
3. LONG GONE
4. GHETTO FEAT BIG SEAN
5. WEDDING CRASHER
6. ROLEX FEAT CASHA
7. SILLY INTRODUCING CASHA
8. 1977 (MISS YOU STILL)
9. WISH YOU WERE MINE
10. REAL
11. FORM OF FLATTERY

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

That's a good sign, not that expectations are particularly high.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

6. ROLEX FEAT CASHA
7. SILLY INTRODUCING CASHA

These are out of sequence, right?

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Maybe Silly is a lead single!

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe she's just kinda 'on' rolex + silly is more a sorta Nivea style 'vehicle'

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Thursday, 25 August 2011 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe the title is "silly introducing casha", as in "it'd be silly introducing casha" or something

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

still disappointed that rihanna song wasn't "photographs featuring will.i.am", ie a song about photos of will.i.am, which would have had the added bonus of not actually having will.i.am on it

lex pretend, Thursday, 25 August 2011 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 25 August 2011 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
When I'm 40 ill write Myself a Pop Smash just so I can Perform on National TV. Not that hard to do. But that's not who I am right now.

my own private kanyes west (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol / terrifying

J0rdan S., Sunday, 28 August 2011 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

word

markers aurelius (The Reverend), Sunday, 28 August 2011 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

terius is totally trying to have sex with this girl i know...

gonna try and get her to let me post the emails here

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Monday, 29 August 2011 01:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

johnny crunch, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

and the thread starts to show true potential

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2011 04:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

"imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single" is prob his idea of sexy talk

✇ ruehl (some dude), Monday, 29 August 2011 04:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really really hope that he releases 1977 in some format better than 128kbps.

mingalaba, Monday, 29 August 2011 08:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a bit drake-y @:-/

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm more offended by his earnest attempt at rhyming "devil" and "shovel"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

are ppl still talking about 'body work / fuck my brains out' -- i havent listened to either since they dropped basically .zzzzz

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

like will any of yall be year-ending those joints

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

how many times have u listened to them since they came out vs. like any peak dream jams

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 07:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

this new one has nice atmosphere but is aimless like a lot of drake tracks imo

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah i dig this tho -- it's sorta reminiscent of new drake stuff in that there's not really a hook? drake's r&b stuff is so obviously influenced by the-dream tho that they were prob bound to blur together as drake got more popular.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i love drake's aimless, vibing confessionals tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

terius doesn't pull it off as well, but it's also less suited to her persona & strengths as artist -- i'm liking this a lot

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol, his persona etc

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

also lmfao at this

I HATE THAT I’M INPATIENT

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

get well soon, boo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i gotta say that this does feel like a ... way out for him. like, i was expecting to hate this more or it to sound more the-dream like but hes def reigned some of that in for the better

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

not sure id be giving him this chance if he hadnt given the world love-hate but for now, i approve

D-40, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

feel like '5. WEDDING CRASHER' has genuine potential

i don't hate this, the end is quite pretty. i don't want him to reign in 'sounding like the-dream' tho wtf

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU KNEW IT WAS OVER I KNOW YOU DID

I KNEW IT WAS OVER YOU KNEW I DID

EVERYONE KNEW IT WAS OVER

SO WAKE ME WHEN IT’S OVER

i like this, from a writing standpoint

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i feel where deej is coming from -- also sounding less like the-dream is sorta the whole point of this project, like it or not

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a free internet album, i'm not shocked that he's indulging his less commercial impulses -- at least it's not a rock album!

anyway i think this is pretty cool, i might dig a whole LP that was like this!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

the relationship with terius as a recording artist and me as a listener is so complicated now that maybe i don't even know what i want. maybe i don't even know

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is way better than "murderer" anyway

i think that song was anti-pop in all the wrong ways... the production was really wonky in a way that i'm sure he thought was profound & different but it was just kinda shitty -- this is a much more agreeable attempt at not making an overt pop song imo

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

are ppl still talking about 'body work / fuck my brains out' -- i havent listened to either since they dropped basically .zzzzz

― D-40, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:58 AM (6 hours ago)

"body work" is a dud but i fuck hard w/ FMBO

frogsb (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

OTM

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

can u guys guess which of -dream's '07 hits (ones he penned obv) he bites here?

pearsonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

body work's the keeper of the two, imo

Jacques_Lamure, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

can u guys guess which of -dream's '07 hits (ones he penned obv) he bites here?

― pearsonic, Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:16 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

he repeats the "eh-eh-eh-ah-eh" part from "bed" at the end

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

body work's the keeper of the two, imo

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp haha yup

the part after that also rly reminds me of this classic

pearsonic, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

dropping in 34 minutes btw

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

the album?

frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

1977

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://yfrog.com/mns4htj

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://yfrog.com/gy471txoj

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is up now (btw "murderer" isn't on this)

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh & he's gonna be ustreaming very soon

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

where do i get

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

with the google

markers aurelius (The Reverend), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

found nev mind

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 05:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

he showed surprising restraint in waiting till song 10 to try and sound like muse

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i definitely approve of this album

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

so many things to say about the big sean verse

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

he needs to get his ass beat for calling himself "B.I.G." multiple times on this

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"wedding crasher" > "florida university"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

big sean either unintentionally riffs on ER's "so good" or he makes some sly allusions to it, in which case... props

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

my irl rap friend was repping hard for that big sean album.

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

fwiw he is not to be trusted

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

my main irl rap friend, i should say

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 06:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

You need a three strikes rule, maybe Big Sean praise is worthy of all 3 strikes though. I wish I had an irl rap friend.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 07:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't we all

bastid could have released this on a day i have nothing to do but nooooooo has to do it 10 minutes before i need to leave.

gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 07:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

spanish guitar on "long gone"!

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is this good then? I was kinda braced for it being terrible given that a man with Terius's quality control was willing to give it away free.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm only a few tracks in, nothing blew me away until "long gone"

"ghetto", which comes after it, is TERRIBLE. who is this big sean person

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 09:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

seems a lot more consciously diaristic than anything he's ever done before

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

which means there's a lot more of a sense of ~the real terius~

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's not necessarily a good thing :/

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds pretty though, mostly, in a low-key way not in a "here are my epic song suites" way

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU USED TO BE ANTI INTERNET

BUT NOW YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BLOGGING AND SHIT

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

sounds pretty though, mostly, in a low-key way not in a "here are my epic song suites" way

i'm only on #2 but the minimalism is nice; the melody's almost like some kinda soft rhodes part & much of the song just goes in loops

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 10:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

<3 wedding crasher. on some love/hate sh!t imo

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 12:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

on first listen i think this is pretty great

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

less about the sudden left-turns of the previous two records, more about setting up an environment in which terius can oscillate for 5 minutes at a time. swampy yet translucent r&b.

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Getting heavy Drake and R. Kelly vibes from the first few tracks.

more about setting up an environment in which terius can oscillate for 5 minutes at a time is absolutely right. Holding back on an opinion for now.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wedding Crasher aside this is sounding like the collection of shitty offcuts it probably is.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^ could barely get through the first 4 songs. 1977 is alright too.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Grinning like an idiot as I listen to this. I recognize that this is probably rail material, but I'm too damn delighted to care.

Rolex music! Damn.

Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

honestly have no idea what ill think of this

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Casha has a nice voice for a ten-year-old boy.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I kind of dig Silly.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

silly is a good song but yeah her voice ain't muc

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Y'all know the original, right?

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh n/m then

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Andy K, always impressive

Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd never heard the original "silly" but if yall aren't familiar with deniece williams you really must hear "free"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

and indeed, here it is

i'm fond of the whole this is niecy album that it's from

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

The rawkout at the end of "This Shit Real N***a" is just NAGL for Terius.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

At least he hasn't put something like that on a real album. Yet.

Number None, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

at least it wasn't the whole song

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i was going to ask jokingly if "silly" was a deniece williams cover -- really don't wanna hear this shit now

lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I posted that last message only halfway through and it got better almost immediately after that. And then radically worse. Only real keepers are Silly, 1977 and maybe Wedding Crasher. Otherwise it's really sub-par in terms of both songwriting and production - the one with Pharrell that explodes into rock guitars is fucking awful.

The rest is kinda like an hour's worth of Sex Intelligent except not really that good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think it works best as a zone-out listen. If you put it on and don't ask anything from it, it's a nice little treat. But there's not a single track on here that matches anything from L/H, LvM or even Love King.

Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

^officially scared to listen to this

frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk it exceeded my expectations personally

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like "wake me when it's over" & "wedding crasher" as much as anything on LK outside of the suite

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk it exceeded my expectations personally

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:54 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark

tbf has there been a terius leak u havent liked

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

what does "terius leak" mean?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

^officially scared to listen to this

I dunno, it meets a need for me. I feel the same way about the Trey Songz "Anticipation" tape; the songs don't really bowl me over, but it's got a good vibe to it, and whenever I need something pleasant (and a little unobtrusive) to listen to, it's there for me in my iTunes

Evan R, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp is there solo terius music that i do not like? aside from a song here or there, not really, no

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think the album needs to be met on its own terms -- comparing it to his previous three albums doesn't seem right to me because i think it's designed to do different things

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda hate that line of crit-talk tbh, does it bang or does it not bang, that is the questeon

frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk man how about you listen to it

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

gonna when i get home!

frogsb (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp is there solo terius music that i do not like? aside from a song here or there, not really, no

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

which is sort of why i distrust your snap-approval judgment

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

is it better than either of his three albums? no. that said, i don't think it's that far off of love king, which i think is a solid level or two below his first two albums anyway. but i don't think my post is crit talk anyway, i think terius would agree w/ me. i don't see anything wrong w/ trying to understand the artist's intentions.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

still cant believe ppl find love king to be a step below love vs. money

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

but anyway, u defended 'let me see the booty' so

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

which is sort of why i distrust your snap-approval judgment

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:03 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well aright -- almost every single person who posts w/ any frequency about the-dream on ilm likes every single one of the-dream's three albums, so i'm not sure how my snap judgment is any different than anyone else's aside from the fact that i like this.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

but anyway, u defended 'let me see the booty' so

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:07 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark

so does brainwasher. lemme know when you invalidate his opinion, too.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i rep for "let me see the booty" too

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

so does ikonika

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

im not invalidating all of your opinions, just your snap judgments on the dream, particularly when other opinionated ilxors are disagreeing w/ you

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm talking about by opinions on the dream

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think it's formally different enough to merit looking at in a different light; there's such an emphasis on texture and layers on the three solo records, and there's a simpler, clunkier thing with this - the drums sometimes feel pretty brash because they aren't cushioned by deep synth tracks, and his voice isn't nearly as sweet at he usually shoots to make it, imo. i am not crazy about this so far, though i dig some of it, & am looking forward to hearing it on headphones over the next few days, but i don't know if some of the weirder stuff - 1977, say, is gonna work itself into my head.

there's bits that are not great though, yeah, mainly the high energy stuff.

(Chris Isaak Cover) (schlump), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think j0rdan and i have different snap judgments on 1977, are u invalidating both of them at the same time?

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

deej have you listened to this? if so, what do you think of it? if not, i'm not sure why i'm arguing w/ you

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm fond of the whole this is niecy album that it's from

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:11 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

It's a classic -- basically an Earth, Wind & Fire album with her as lead vocalist. Second album is classic, too. Stuff gets spottier after that but there are major moments ("Silly" off My Melody, for instance).

So yeah, I'll take Monica's "Everything to Me" over the Nash/Casha version of "Silly" any day.

Casha seems like a fine singer but I guess at this point I'd rather hear him showcase a female singer who sounds like a woman.

A Chuck Person's Guide to Mark Aguirre (Andy K), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp did you stop trusting my opinion on gucci mane when i repped for 'mr zone 6'

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think j0rdan and i have different snap judgments on 1977, are u invalidating both of them at the same time?

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont know what yours is. but 'let me see the booty' was trash

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp did you stop trusting my opinion on gucci mane when i repped for 'mr zone 6'

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:13 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

idk but you're getting awfully butthurt. everyone here does this to a degree - ive taken enough zings about being a jacka fan & frankly i think im much more likely to shit on one of his songs than you are one of the-dreams

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

"i drown my liver in this liquor" is a really obtrusively bad lyric

horseshoe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

so does ikonika

ha i'm guessing most of the people on this thread don't know/care about ikonika

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

j0rdan is right in that it's clearly not intended to sit up there with the ~love trilogy~

that said i could put together a double cd of terius outtakes and demos that would be better than this

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

seems a lot more consciously diaristic than anything he's ever done before

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

which means there's a lot more of a sense of ~the real terius~

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that's not necessarily a good thing :/

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:02 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

otm

horseshoe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

my snap judgment is that this is pretty bad

horseshoe, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

idk but you're getting awfully butthurt. everyone here does this to a degree - ive taken enough zings about being a jacka fan & frankly i think im much more likely to shit on one of his songs than you are one of the-dreams

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:15 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

i'm not getting awfully butthurt, i'm just defending myself & my opinion. and anyway, plenty of ppl have accused you of what you're accusing me of, seems a bit of an odd position for you to take.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think j0rdan and i have different snap judgments on 1977, are u invalidating both of them at the same time?

― lex pretend, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:10 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fwiw this just means that if lex comes out w/ a measured take of this particular album then i'll be more likely to take it seriously -- "he even liked 'let me see the booty' but he doesnt like this -- not a good sign" -- than if u came out enthusiastically for it

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think my take on this is pretty measured. i just think it's good.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm not getting awfully butthurt, i'm just defending myself & my opinion. and anyway, plenty of ppl have accused you of what you're accusing me of, seems a bit of an odd position for you to take.

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:19 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I dont think the-dream is in a position of needing critical cheerleading though, whereas when we put a lot of energy (notably, CRITICAL energy) into covering gucci at first there was a dearth of positive coverage (similar to ... basically any artist ive been accused of 'stanning' for)

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i havent even heard it yet! im just saying that when im getting conflicted reports, considering what dream tracks i do not like at all that you've repped for, it means im less likely to agree w your take on it

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

so how do i get my ipod?

seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was a time when the-dream needed critical cheerleading. that time has passed. the same exact thing could be said for gucci mane. or waka flocka flame. or lil wayne.

but i'm not and haven't been cheerleading for this album. i just think it's good.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i first heard of the dream through ikonika, reading an interview with her in the metro, she was naming her albums of the year and love vs money was one of them

xxpost

prego, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i dont think you're getting me but w/e xp

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean i havent even heard it yet! im just saying that when im getting conflicted reports, considering what dream tracks i do not like at all that you've repped for, it means im less likely to agree w your take on it

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

right but this is just about your expectations, again, since you haven't heard it. my "cheerleading" for the-dream is certainly not unique on ilx, or at this point outside of it. i just happen to have a differing opinion on this album. it has nothing to do w/ anything i've said previous to this. i could very well be right.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us

D-40, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

title of track 1 otm

uberweiss, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:29 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark

well this is certainly a pretty interesting thing to bring up?

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i first heard of the dream through ikonika, reading an interview with her in the metro, she was naming her albums of the year and love vs money was one of them

lollll i remember talking to her ahead of this feature, she was all like "i don't know how to narrow down what i want to pick"

lex pretend, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm with j0rdan on this but you probably shouldn't trust me about that either because i think the rawk outro in the pharrell track is hilarious? maybe next listen i will find it terrifying

but still i think it's a good record of exercises in mood

mutant slow drum (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

i say this with love and not in a dismissive or condescending way -- guys surely this can be taken to gchat

lil dawg (some dude), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

^

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like "wake me when it's over", this isn't the look i really want dream to be pursuing but as dream-doing-drake-doing-dream it's ok

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

"used to be"

his vocals on this kinda remind me of the least listenable parts of love king - no real form to the songwriting here at all or hook really, production is really weak too, who produced this? is this whole thing pure terius? *checks wikipedia*

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess in feel "long gone" is supposed to be like the 1977 analog to LvM's title tracks or "abyss" on the last one - i've always felt kind of alone in saying these epic feeling joints were easily his weakest material - for me they seem to trade songcraft and other things dream really does well for "atmosphere" or whatever - mercifully this is short

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

ghetto starts real promising for me, it's got that percussion that reminds me of my favorite LOS-produced dream joints - verse is really lazy/weak, damn, none of this shit really goes anywhere - i do like the vocals though, it's got that light cadence and bounce that characterized the best stuff before this last album - oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song) but i'm a little drunk and can't place it atm. aaaaand big sean...big sean's verse was short thank god, whoa now he's interpolating beyonce's "dance for you", getting major points over here...uh ok he's basically just covering it...scene

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

"ghetto" kinda reminded me of mariah's "ribbon"?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

this was good right up to the point where i queued in Danny Brown in the middle and then got hooked on it instead

Reddit Me Bro (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

"wedding crasher"

ok this is pretty much catnip for dream stans, has like 100 different signifiers that get us all worked up - this is like the "FILA" of this shit but without the great production unfortunately - yeah i mean i'm willing to partially take back what i said what i said to sarge earlier today, i mean idk how many times i'm gonna want to bump this shit because unlike a lot of dream songs/productions etc there doesnt seem to be a lot going on under the surface but it's a good listen the first time around to remind us of the things we like about terry

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

my download of this stopped halfway through and I haven't been motivated to re-download tbh

the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

"rolex"

ugh this is another love king outtake-sounding joint - really hate that little vocal run he's been leaning on like listen to him singing "my nigga chris a(?) can't imagine what this is / can't wait til you get home nigga look how we liviiiin" ugh i mean who thinks this sounds good, come on son. this hook totally bites yelawolf's "trunk muzik"...yelawolf is a rapper, pretty good indication that biting his hook for an r&b song is a bad look - this casha chick seems pretty faceless, if ship thought that mariah album was her doing "dream karaoke" then he aint heard shit

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

:/

damn, i had hope.

goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

also, something I've been thinking for a while now and kev's thoughts sort of reminded me of - the-dream isn't really that good of a producer, and I think you can definitely see a correlation between when he started self-producing his stuff and the relative decline in quality.

Love King was 90% self-produced, right? He produced FMBO/Body Work too.... I mean, he did produce my favorite song on LK (Sex Intelligent/Remix) and Tricky produced what everyone considers to be the worst song on the album ("Panties..."), but I think in general the Tricky/LOS production of the first two albums was a lot stronger.

the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah that's key.

goole, Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

"silly" (introducing casha) (lol)

ok this is the cover one, right? was about to say how it sounded really out of character for dreamer. anyway casha actually sounds human on this one, pretty solid - might have to listen to that original

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

brainwasher i'll address that post after i finish listening to this

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't believe y'all never heard that smh

the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok cool

the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

"1977"

this is another one of those one or two songs he puts out on every album (except his first!) that just aims way too fuckin high imo, i mean i can't tell if it's just that he doesn't have the voice to pull it off or if it's just lame straight up - it's probably a mix of the two tbh. production is really ugly and difficult to listen to on this, lot of syncopated percussion that isn't doing it for me at all, don't know what instrument is making that moaning drone sound in the background but it's awful

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

"wish you were mine"

tracks like this just make me want to put on love/hate to make sure this is the same artist i fell in love with 3.5 years ago, i mean what is this bullshit? i have nothing to say about this

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

"this shit real nigga"

well dream flows better than big sean at the very least - oh there's a grocery bag, nice. anyway this isn't a terrible rap song actually, the hook is weak but i actually don't hate the production, did pharrell do this? i'm running out of liveblog passion at this point tbh. oh cool, a guitar solo *rmde*

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

wedding crasher needed another pass through the production machine. its like almost great but he just won't shut up for 10 seconds.

very public (bnw), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

"form of flattery"

i guess this is the closest we get to a "ballad" on this, remember when he used to run those? anyway production is super minimal with some sad strings, sounds like something off of that last james blackishaw album or something. the multitracked vocals around the chorus are actually kind of pleasant, not much else to say about this one

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

liveblog? more like LIVEFLOG

J0rdan S., Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyway brainwasher i've been kind of thinking about dream and his production since love king, i mean i think when "FILA" first leaked in advance (back when TI was on it) i said something about like "yeah LOS came to play here" or something before i found out after the album dropped that apparently that song was all dream - i mean in a way i get more excited about the production on dream songs than the vocals, or at least they're equal. so yeah but to see that dream got solo credit on that when he clearly aped a lot of earlier LOS joints (and did it well!) kinda muddied the waters for me a bit and turned my ideas about production on dream albums upside-down, i mean who knows to what degree dream contrubuted to those early joints that tricky or los got credit for when love king sounded so familiar in spots? the fact that the production on 1977 is mostly terrible kinda re-raises that question

frogsb (k3vin k.), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, clearly he learned things from tricky & LOS that have informed and influenced his own productions, but I think the difference is pretty noticeable. A lot of Terius' productions come off as flimsy to me, like they're missing the intricacy and incredible attention-to-detail that Tricky & LOS bring to the table. Even a song like "Sex Intelligent," which has a lot going on and some cool details in the background, isn't as full-sounding as something like "Put It Down" or "She Needs My Love." Not sure if I'm describing it well, but a lot of his newer stuff just falls flat to me and the production is 100% at fault here (he's obviously still an incredible songwriter when he's on - as Beyonce's 4 proved).

the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

had trouble getting through all this. i really think, more than the production, the weak songwriting is what differentiates this from earlier stuff

D-40, Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is getting exceedingly pedantic but yah your past record on the-dream singles impacts how seriously i take your evaluation on them going forward as im sure would be true for any of us

― D-40, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:29 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

title of track 1 otm

― uberweiss, Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:30 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i loled

 (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

I LOVE THE WAY YOU SMELL

BUT YR ALWAYS ON SOME BULLSHIT

 (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 05:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Liked it just fine.

pandemic, Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

otm

i just let it play three times in a row while lounging in my skivvies, catching up on reading some news + ilx threads

 (gr8080), Thursday, 1 September 2011 06:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days? His work around 2007 had so much more depth and bite to it, now it all sounds so much more presetty. I really like Silly but those Toytown synths sounds ridiculous in the staccato lead-up to the chorus.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't believe y'all never heard that smh

― the special technique of liveblogging (The Brainwasher), Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:27 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

lil dawg (some dude), Thursday, 1 September 2011 11:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

NOW I'M ON A LOVE TRAIN
AND I HOPE I GET OFF COS I'M SURE THE NEXT STOP IS COCAINE
(OR SOME OTHER DRUG)

thistle supporter (mcoll), Friday, 2 September 2011 04:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
Actually since I said I was retiring I made 1977 5 and Love IV 4. So like jordan I came back wearing the 45.

For the sake of my future fandom I may need to unfollow him.

Evan R, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also is it just me or is Terius's production sounding cheaper and cheaper these days?

that studio video posted upthread was really interesting. on one hand it's really impressive that he's writing songs on the spot and making really quick decisions, and knocking out tracks in an hour per. on the other hand that doesn't leave much room for detail work/spending time on sounds/etc

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

a pretty modern methodology
not sure terius will be the finest practitioner, tho

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

i feel like there was something to his strength being the tension between tossed-off melodic instinct & labored-over, well-crafted track construction. now he's lost that balance

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

you feel he's lost it based on a free album?

lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

not sure what the price has to do w/ it

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

nor did i imply that hes permanently lost it or w/e

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

although i wd say i am not hopeful

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

A lot probably hinges on how much Tricky and LOS involvement there is with Love IV

Number None, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's not a correlation that always holds up but i tend to have lower expectations for something an artist gives away free than a "proper" release - in the case of terius it seems it would obviously be kinda tossed off in comparison to normal

lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i find these days i don't have the time or energy to bother with "expectations" or predicting how good an album's gonna be anyway. it might be genius, it might not be, til it gets here it's all speculation.

lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah but its been a slippery slope on his albums too

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

we've been over this before but you know i disagree

lex pretend, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

""

thank got forks showed up (forksclovetofu), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah but its been a slippery slope on his albums too

― D-40, Friday, September 2, 2011 12:38 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

except you think his last album is better than its predecessor

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 17:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

they're comparable. i like more songs on the 3rd, on balance. the 1st is still head & shoulders

D-40, Friday, 2 September 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh man ok feeling this hook! ghetto! ghetto! it's reminding me of something totally obvious (a -dream song)

-k3vin k

"ghetto" kinda reminded me of mariah's "ribbon"?

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2011 12:09 AM (Yesterday)

it's "gangsta luv"!!

frogsb (k3vin k.), Friday, 2 September 2011 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

whenever i listen to "long gone", i always picture kyle from "party down" singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"

J0rdan S., Friday, 2 September 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

ROCK OUT!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

that studio video posted upthread was really interesting. on one hand it's really impressive that he's writing songs on the spot and making really quick decisions, and knocking out tracks in an hour per. on the other hand that doesn't leave much room for detail work/spending time on sounds/etc

― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Friday, September 2, 2011 10:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

maybe my ears are tricking me, but the sound in those 'making-of' vids seemed different to me. like, he whips up a demo with cheap sounds as a songwriting tool, and then the producers re-do it, add detail and depth, etc.

i think that's what his own productions are missing, some of the sparkle. they're kind of flat and unmixed somehow, there's not much dimension.

goole, Saturday, 3 September 2011 05:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wish the verses to wedding crasher were better cuz the chorus has srsly been stuck in my head all wkend

johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

never seen a nikka buy a house from the toilet

johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

singing "stop fucking with me... ROMAN"

lolz this is in 'used to be' btw

johnny crunch, Sunday, 4 September 2011 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

this new album is an hour of everything I hate about the love/money and love king suites

blegh

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do you hate about the love/money & love king suites

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

esp you, kevin?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

the interminable meandering vocals, the underwritten choruses, the ponderous and directionless instrumentation that weakly suggests 'bombast' but nothing else

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

the way it sounds like it's one bong hit away from being a spoken word joint about how you hate your ex

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo otm

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

the interminable meandering vocals, the underwritten choruses, the ponderous and directionless instrumentation that weakly suggests 'bombast' but nothing else

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:30 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

hmmm, i don't pick up any of this in the suites

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think i've been probably the most outspoken member of this board in the past few years saying that the "suites" (title tracks on LVM, abyss/february love/whatever on the last one) are his weakest material! they tend to trade corny atmospherics for actual songs imo

xp

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo otm

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha I want to post a screencap of my itunes playcount for love/money

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think i've been probably the most outspoken member of this board in the past few years saying that the "suites" (title tracks on LVM, abyss/february love/whatever on the last one) are his weakest material! they tend to trade corny atmospherics for actual songs imo

xp

― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:35 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark

i disagree w/ this characterization of the suites

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

partic 'abyss' ... wtf

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've always hated the suites but I dunno how vocal I've been on these threads about that. I distinctly remember j0rd defending the suites as being among the best songs on l/m and love king tho... lex too I think

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah you love abyss, i know, i think it sucks, we've been over this xp

you just otm'ed dayo and i agree 100% w/ him so idk what side you're on here

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i should take back my dayo otm -- i do think that this album is the worst parts of the-dream's schtick, but i don't think its the suites themselves that were the problem or have poor songwriting on the other 2 albums

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck I almost had my first deej otm

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

*writes long meandering song full of corny atmospherics in protest*

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

what's the suite on love king? yamaha-nikki 2-abyss? that one is awesome. if the suite is sex intelligent, i sort of agree that it's boring.

i have no use for love vs. money-love vs. money part 2.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

dayo otm about his characterization of this album though imo

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

sex intelligent -> sex intelligent remix, nikki pt 2 -> abyss

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

woohoo *writes FILA pt. 2* xp

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

abyss is so great i don't understand how anyone could not love it

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

the abyss has a nice outro but the part leading up to it is a huge slog

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

I think some of the lvm/lvm pt. 2 plays were a result of listening along while reading posts on here about them

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

imo the suites are

love vs money -> love vs money 2 -> fancy -> right side of my brain

yamaha -> nikki pt 2 -> abyss

i... can't remember reading many people speaking out against these songs but maybe i've forgotten idk

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

both suites are central to enjoyment of either album imo

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's an art, being mean to your ex in a song. i love abyss and florida university, but the love vs. moneys are so boring. i think it's because abyss + f.u. glory in how juvenile they are, but the lvms are so self-important and thinking they're deep or something?

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know this is the opposite of how most dream fans on ilx feel, but love vs. money--->fancy is all just dumb to me. sometimes i think it's because i'm a girl lol.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like right side of my brain a lot though

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah the LvMs are possibly my least favorite the-dream tracks, outside of 'panties to the side' and 'let me see that booty' and that ilk

so self-indulgent

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

horseshoe i can see where you're coming from

personally i like the LVMs because i think they stand out sonically on an album that has such rich & idiosyncratic production everywhere else

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i guess abyss isn't juvenile, but it's just straight-up mean instead of entering into tiresome justifications for meanness. also it sounds amazing.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i feel like my love for dream's disgusting persona is this very delicate balance and 1977 just seems like he ripped off the sleazeball mask to reveal a really sincere sleazeball and it's like ugh put your clothes back on.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do the LvMs bring sonically though - hey, terius knows how to trigger a gunshot sound?

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

personally i like the LVMs because i think they stand out sonically on an album that has such rich & idiosyncratic production everywhere else

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i am less attentive to this kind of thing. lol english majors.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

the entire thing is pretty painful to listen to

the suites had the best songwriting -- 'yamaha' -> 'nikki pt 2' - > 'abyss', 'fancy' - > 'right side of my brain' - > 'mr. yeah'

― D-40, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:39 PM (4 minutes ago)

i basically disagree with everything in this post, starting with what the suites even comprised - suites were pt1/pt2/fancy/right side on LVM (and i do love the latter two; tellingly they're a lot different than the former two in terms of structure, atmosphere, etc) and i guess yamaha/nikki pt2/abyss on the last one and obviously 'yamaha' doesn't need the other two to exist at all. i disagree that "nikki pt 2" is among his best songwriting jobs - weak, repetitive non-hook...and like i said imo "abyss" is just ugly to listen to but i think pretty obviously has some of his absolute worst lyrics

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

that first part was xp to horseshoe re: abyss

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

on the off chance nobody has made the "wake me when it's over" zing on 1977 yet, well, wake me when its over

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

the abyss has a nice outro but the part leading up to it is a huge slog

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 2:44 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

abyss has an amazing hook -- you guys are crazy

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

like i said imo "abyss" is just ugly to listen to but i think pretty obviously has some of his absolute worst lyrics

u crazy, chorus of abyss is amazing

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

imo the suites are

love vs money -> love vs money 2 -> fancy -> right side of my brain

yamaha -> nikki pt 2 -> abyss

i... can't remember reading many people speaking out against these songs but maybe i've forgotten idk

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:46 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

both suites are central to enjoyment of either album imo

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:46 PM (6 minutes ago)

lol well pretend forgetfulness, etc, but i remember you saying the same thing and i said "only if you're a music critic" - the other songs bang harder end of story

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

only thing i disagree w/ re: horseshoe is that the production/songwriting on 'fancy' is so amazing that i'm willing to build up a 'hes playing a character' fantasy abt it

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

that might not be a disagreement idk

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

there is literally nothing wrong with fancy/right side of my brain & fuiud!

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

fancy is the one where i just find dream's fantasy about this materialistic woman kind of dumb, but i might be being unfair. if it were written by a chick about herself i might like it more. also, though, it would probably be better.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

i haven't listened to it in ages so i will now

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't really listen to the-dream for the lyrics

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

the production on that is so epic xp

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

except for 'florida university' why because f. u.

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

what do the LvMs bring sonically though - hey, terius knows how to trigger a gunshot sound?

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

idk i've always taken these almost like the-dream & tricky's take on industrial music

i mean it's sort of an obvious trick -- cold & punishing beats frame a song where a dude's life has become sad -- but i think it works

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

"fancy" is just o_O in every way

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

'fancy' is this 6 minute concentration of energies that never really finds a release, it's awesome

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't really listen to the-dream for the lyrics

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:01 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah...i am dumb about talking about the music part of music so i talk about lyrics but i don't mean just lyrics, i just don't have the language to talk about the sound part. but i really love some of his lyrics.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

'fancy' is this 6 minute concentration of energies that never really finds a release, it's awesome

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:02 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark

i don't agree w/ that at all!!

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

yah fancy is more swirling wide screen cinematic grandeur

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

the thing i basically love about his sound is the "everything is happening inside a bouncy castle" feel. sometimes the lyrics are so dumb they take me out of the song, and i'm afraid "fancy" is one of those.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha well I almost never listen to the lyrics unless they jump out at me. I'm also an eng/lit major type fwiw.

I would totally write a freud style sublimation of energies essay about fancy if I was still into masturbating into music publications

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait yeah what would u call the last 30 seconds of not a "release"

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think that part of me is also forgiving about it because i am broke & fantasize pretty readily / can understand why ppl fantasize about how much money would change their lives when working a shitty job, and i guess at some level i wish a the-dream would swoop in & hook me up w/ private jet rides

but not terius specifically

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song is soooooooooooooo long you guys

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

'right side of my brain' is the release

prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know, it's weird, i like a lot of songs about materialism, but i just don't vibe with the particular fantasy in fancy

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

the last 30 secs get so close to being an eruption but it never quite gets unhinged - it's like at the moment he's about to go for the nuclear option he realizes that it's better to go for a 'honey attracts flies' approach and gearshifts into the absolute melting lushness of 'right side of my brain'

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

first of all, you could argue that the payoff is the end of "right side of my brain", which means that it just takes really long to get to

BUT

i think the part in "fancy" before the rap where the instrumental is really swelling up and the-dream starts scatting (lol) and there's the screwed vocal ("all we do is, we spend this money") is a great & sorta subtle climax, then it all drops out for his rap so there's a tension release -- idk that part was always pretty epic to me

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

like my fav. part about the last 30 secs is the way those deep drums come in w/ like 10 seconds left while there are all these like 2-3 synth runs in the background - but his voice still remains measured, control, and the last line is "but even when I used to rock polos I was fancy..." and that's a capitulation, not a sign of victory

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

the swooping strings are the release imo, yeah, the part w/ the double-time rap

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

2-3 second synth runs, that should say

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

'right side of my brain' is the comedown, not the release

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

just realized this listening back the other night but i love how "fancy" evokes a sound that i think is sorta stereotypical of, like, a parisisan square? jazzy woodwinds & whatever,.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

svelte

 (gr8080), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

'right side of my brain' is the comedown, not the release

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:10 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark

no!! "right side of my brain" is tense as hell. that's where the "explosive release" is. the last minute of that song is the heaviest part of the album.

the release is mr. yeah/kelly's 12 play, where he is back to fucking

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

get outta here grady

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

er, the comedown is mr. yeah etc

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

cant decide if im more frustrated by rong opinions here or in the politics thread

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

probably here

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

er, the comedown is mr. yeah etc

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:12 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is weird to me, but i think it's because i would prefer an album of mr. yeahs + kelly's 12-play to what love v. money actually is.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol. okay just looking at the lyrics, 'fancy' is a 6 minute long epic where the-dream is just about to capitulate to this girl and just about to devote himself to her, before he pulls out (lol) at the very last second and takes a step back in 'right side of my brain'

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

first of all, you could argue that the payoff is the end of "right side of my brain", which means that it just takes really long to get to

BUT

i think the part in "fancy" before the rap where the instrumental is really swelling up and the-dream starts scatting (lol) and there's the screwed vocal ("all we do is, we spend this money") is a great & sorta subtle climax, then it all drops out for his rap so there's a tension release -- idk that part was always pretty epic to me

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:08 PM (5 minutes ago)

yeah for me the release has always been in parts - starts with the screwed vocal, then the rap, then finally when the drums come in

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

can't believe I interrupted my catching up with TSJ to argue these points

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

billy cunningham is not happy w you jokers

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

'right side of my brain' is the comedown, not the release

― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:10 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark

no!! "right side of my brain" is tense as hell. that's where the "explosive release" is. the last minute of that song is the heaviest part of the album.

the release is mr. yeah/kelly's 12 play, where he is back to fucking

― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:11 PM (3 minutes ago)

^^otm, "mr yeah" is the comedown which is why i do not consider it part of the suite

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is weird to me, but i think it's because i would prefer an album of mr. yeahs + kelly's 12-play to what love v. money actually is.

― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:14 PM (2 minutes ago)

the album you're looking for is love/hate

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

otm

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know, that one is the best!

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

& just for the record i tend to get overly critical about this stuff, i mean LvM was my favorite album of 2009

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

mr. yeah is a victory lap btw, not a comedown

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmmm yeah

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

well then the comedown is "kelly's 12 play"

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

i know, that one is the best!

― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yessss

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

kelly's 12-play is just great.

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think "kelly's 12 play" has my fav dream lyrics ever

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

oooh oooh oooh-in it!

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm glad we just generated another 200 posts about the-dream

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha this is the only kind of ilm posting i feel like i can participate in, enthusiastic fandom

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

if only ilx posts about the-dream were a currency

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

kelly's 12 play is exactly an example of how his improvisational lyrics were sometimes a benefit rather than weakness. "...check for scratches / get up on my mattress" is like my fav couplet of '09

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

so if kellys 12 play is the comedown what does that make let me see that booty

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

a bonus track

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was gonna say "waking up at 4 am to go vomit in the toilet"

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol i thought i established that 'let me see the booty' was the litmus test for dream stannery

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

that was true until '1977' came out

dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think i have listened to "let me see the booty" once

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i listened to all three of the most recent albums the other night & i still think "let me see the booty" is fucking great

J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think we are all still stans though

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

i consider myself a 'love hate' stan more than a the-dream stan

or a the-dream as song factory stan vs. the-dream as auteur stan

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^his next album title

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

"kelly's 12 play" is great as a closer but "luv songs" is even better and love/hate would have been completely perfect if it had ended with it.

prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i could do without "livin' a lie" that much but "mama"!!!

horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

love/hate already has a perfect closer xp

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow, since when did people like "mama"

prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

'mama' is awesome fuiud

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^^

Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Mama" is maybe the anti-"Let Me See The Booty" in a litmus testy sense.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

been waiting to hear tim f's thoughts on 1977, actually

frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

I haven't downloaded it yet. I figure if I approach it super-casually I might like it more.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't even comprehend actively repping for "mama" above "let me see the booty", it's like none of you enjoyed crunk'n'b

lex pretend, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Trying to associate LMSTB with "Goodies", "Oh", "I Like That", "Yeah" etc. only tarnishes the otherwise glistening reputation of those tunes.

Tim F, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

that song is like 4 years late & generic as shit

D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

generic isn't nec a bad thing

lex pretend, Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

The release of "Fancy" is the key-change chord at the very end that leads into "Right Side of My Brain".

swagliacci (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 September 2011 22:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 years late and actively annoying as shit. xp

swagliacci (The Reverend), Sunday, 4 September 2011 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

*drudge siren*

http://twitter.com/#!/MrTeriusNash

k3vin k., Monday, 5 September 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

HAHAHA!!!

D-40, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha ren otm

swagliacci (The Reverend), Monday, 5 September 2011 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

lmao at it inspiring a stream of responses

D-40, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

when i saw that i assumed there was some back n forth but no, those are all a response to one tweet lmao

D-40, Monday, 5 September 2011 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

any links to interviews with Terius? new and/or old?
besides the p4k one?

mingalaba, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 11:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/08/the-dream-terius-nash-1977

otm

dayo, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^

D-40, Saturday, 10 September 2011 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
I'm completely taken by how many uneducated and emotionally Damaged Artist there are in the music business.

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Monday, 10 October 2011 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm completely taken by how many people who consider themselves educated don't know how to pluralize the word "artists"

some dude, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

artistses?

lucas, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 02:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyone still listen to this cd

The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 06:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

"cd"

turfin' bird (The Reverend), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 07:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

anyone still listen to this cd

― The boyboy young jess (D-40), Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:51 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

this is a weird measure for me when the album still has only been out for like a month or two -- i usually listen to something a bunch over a week or two weeks and then it falls out of the rotation for a bit until i decide to revisit it -- i just listened to the beyonce album for the first time in a few months. if i break that cycle pretty consistently with an album then i know it's like... top 3 of the year material for me.

yung huma (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

man i really wish i could get into this

P-NASTY (tpp), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

only listened to this once

Fifty-Three Percenter Godbody Knowledge (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i still listen to wedding crasher a lot

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

^this

⚓ (gr8080), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

reference to a "cd" made me briefly panic that the album had dropped without me noticing

had forgotten 1977 existed, who really cares

lex pretend, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 23:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

couldn't do it more than three times, feels kinda flimsy
i like dude with more bombast and production and scope somehow

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

terius doing records w/o los and tricky is basically like a guy who's only at his best with his backing band going solo

some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I like "Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out" better than anything on 1977.

Evan R, Friday, 28 October 2011 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

OTM, i was under the impression they were on 1977

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

you like those songs better than anything on 1977, which you have not heard, seeing as you thought both songs were on 1977

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 02:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

no i mean i was under that impression prior to 1977 being released OKAY JORDAN???

thinking back it was probably just because we used this thread to discuss 1977

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i thought

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

:-)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 03:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol lamer

tbh tho fmbo is pretty much better than anything on 1077 and dream should take a chill pill before realeasing any actual new music

MODS DID 10/11 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

jordan, u on a hella "OH REALLY, EN GARDE, RIPOSTE, PARRY, THRUST, AHA!" kick at the moment, huh

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 October 2011 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah, i was just fuckin with grady

J0rdan S., Saturday, 29 October 2011 06:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 29 October 2011 14:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

dream should take a chill pill before realeasing any actual new music

otm

his twitter makes him seem kinda crazy atm

tpp, Saturday, 29 October 2011 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hmmmm

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
should be done all in 2012 "RADIOKILLA RECORDS WHY BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE FUCK WE DO!" THELOVECULT MY FANS ARE THE REALEST PEOPLE ON EARTH
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MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
so i want to try to do as much as i can in 2012! so Love IV, LOVE V,1984, Nikki and a Movie With my NIGG @BigSean includin a soundtrack.....
8 hours ago

MrTeriusNash Terius Nash
BTW Started to Concept "LOVE FIVE". should start on it in March. Love IV date is MARCH 20th! i want to take a real Vacation in 2013....

Number None, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just read a lil about 1984 which i guess we can hope is about the-dream as a romantic seven year old

Abattoir Educator / Slaughterman (schlump), Wednesday, 9 November 2011 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

branching out from the drake thread, on the topic of terius:

MONDAY, JUNE 8, 2009

Tite Ass Terius

Now quickly before I get to like more REAL parts of the show I must mention that Terius and his tite ass was there. Yo I love his songs I own both his cds like I play em as if there ain't other music sometimes... but why da fuck is ya man always dressin so tite? U think it's cuz he got the face of a fat kid? Just a hush puppy away from bein a lardo so he wears skinny shit to show he ain't fat? Or like what is it? For real? He is NOT buff his voice is NOT masculine so he don't need to wear nut huggers everywhere he goes..This performance was better than his performance at Mary and Jay-Zs Heart of the City Tour last year tho.. Goodnite Terius! Call leticia yo beautician....

Posted by PRiMa at 7:31 PM

http://primazthoughts.blogspot.com/2009/06/tite-ass-terius.html

lil jon & vangelis (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 08:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

eek

http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/new-music-the-dream-roc/

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

!!!

AMAZING

TERIUS BACK.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

on some utter nerd shit he reused, like, that scalding hot water synth synth tone from "freaky freaky" that makes me think of 112 & shit for some reason

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

thought this bump was gonna be for that song w/ fuckin big sean

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i'm glad he went back to that really glistening, golden sound of "rockin that shit" & "fila" but went in a different direction w/ it

it really sounds like something that would be on a theoretical second electrik red album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

another one or the one off 1977?

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

it really sounds like something that would be on a theoretical second electrik red album

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:15 PM (6 minutes ago)

it's very 2009-period, it reminds me of a lot memoirs actually

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah it actually sounds a lot like "the impossible"

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

does him releasing an actually-good song mean some ppl here will walk back the breathless praise of 1977

Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's a bit more... sexy than a lot of memoirs -- it's reminds me more of, like, "heartbreaker"-era mariah or something

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

/troll

Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait who liked 1977?

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

me

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song kind of makes it even more obvious how lackluster 1977 was tbh

I wonder if he produced this himself, since I felt that his production and the lack of a Los/Tricky influence is what hurt 1977 and, to a lesser extent, LoveKing.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

you were on some "it's good for what it is" shit tho right xp

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

though to be totally fair I listened to 1977 like twice so maybe I didn't really give it a shot. His music is usually very immediate to me.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

you were on some "it's good for what it is" shit tho right xp

― k3vin k., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:28 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

more or less, yes, esp cuz i pegged it as a one-off detour

if anything i think this more embarrasses ppl who were calling "love king" on par w/ his first two albums

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

another one or the one off 1977?

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:15 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh i had seen that he put out a video as 'the-dream f/ big sean' and didn't realize it was from the 'terius nash' album (or that the video is older than i thought)

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

if anything i think this more embarrasses ppl who were calling "love king" on par w/ his first two albums

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 9:30 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yet still better than 1977

Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had to troll back

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 03:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't find it. Has it disappeared?

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

should still be here? http://www.missinfo.tv/index.php/new-music-the-dream-roc

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

PUT YOUR LIPS UP ON MY LIPS
WHEN I DIP YOU DIP WE DIP

The Reverend, Thursday, 5 January 2012 08:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh yeah

tpp, Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't think this embarrasses anyone, jesus you people and your taste chess

lol @ the artwork

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like this and it's better than anything on 1977 (obv) but it's blowing me away exactly as much as "love king" did when it dropped (ie it's not, though it's nice enough and i'll happily listen to it a ton)

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 09:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well that just dampened my anticipation.

Tim F, Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the second half of this is pretty nice, kinda in the vain of whatever the segue in FMBO/bodywork was called was. the song is kinda autopilot though.

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

kinda tmi at the end

nice wailing guitar solo tho

also, way to go for being rich

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 5 January 2012 11:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

if anything i think this more embarrasses ppl who were calling "love king" on par w/ his first two albums

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 4, 2012 10:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

lol who thinks this

tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

cant find the poll but i think a lot of ppl

johnny crunch, Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think that

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

always forget how many crazies like the-dream

this is kinda nice but feels pretty underproduced, like the b-side to a b-side

tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Electrik Red - How to Be a Lady: Volume One (2009) 18
The-Dream - Love/Hate (2007) 14
The-Dream - Love Vs. Money (2009) 14
The-Dream - Love King (2010) 6
Mariah Carey - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel (2009) 3
Ciara - Basic Instinct (2010) 0

Number None, Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

"fila" through to "abyss" is an astounding run that easily counteracts whatever flaws it has

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

shawty is da shit through mama is an even more astounding run and plus, has no flaws

tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

the flaws on both those albums are outside those runs (well "mama" is entirely a flaw but whatever)

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd take "yamaha" alone over anything on L/H

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i was just trolling deej, you guys

J0rdan S., Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

have listened to this three times and besides a nice minute-ish intro it kinda drags and sinks beneath the waves

tracy mcgr8080 (dayo), Thursday, 5 January 2012 13:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'd take "yamaha" alone over anything on L/H

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, January 5, 2012 7:26 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is why you are insane

Regional Thug (D-40), Thursday, 5 January 2012 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

As Terius songs go this sounds so formulaic and tossed out in five minutes it feels like I've written it in some kind of lazy parody.

Matt DC, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah this is a bit slight no doubt, but i really appreciate the overall vibe/style and it's not like a lead single or something so i'm cool with it

k3vin k., Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't disagree that this sounds tossed-off, but isn't that part of his charm a lot of the time? Even his best, most-realized tracks have a just-fucking-around quality to them. My favs are the ones where he sounds like he's just having too much fun to edit himself

Evan R, Thursday, 5 January 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's not like a lead single or something so i'm cool with it

does anyone know specifically what it is?, i didn't get it from radiokilla & can't quite summon the effort to get involved in the shoe of the month thing. i guess he's working on the next dream record but most of what he does seems to just come out of some kind of last-minute-homework session, so it's interesting to know if it's a song on the record or what

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's the first single from The Love IV

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

so happy "the love intravenous" is back on the table as an album title

we bought a zoo in a hopeless place (some dude), Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's the first single from The Love IV

huh, okay. there was the kells song also kicking around, maybe that'll be a lil more exciting

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 5 January 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't disagree that this sounds tossed-off, but isn't that part of his charm a lot of the time? Even his best, most-realized tracks have a just-fucking-around quality to them. My favs are the ones where he sounds like he's just having too much fun to edit himself

― Evan R, Thursday, January 5, 2012 12:58 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

exactly. i feel like there are two completely opposite types of dream fans or something

Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, 6 January 2012 03:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song rules, the only weakness is maybe the vocal performance on the voice comes off a bit thin? but definitely a welcome return of grandiose arrangements & fun silly ideas. to me this songwriting is on the level of the upbeat jams of LvM

flopson, Friday, 6 January 2012 05:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

you call this a grandiose arrangement? really? "sex intelligent" and "she needs my love" and the "love vs money"s are grandiose arrangements, not this.

i love the squelchy bass on this but that's about it for ideas really.

terius' casual, tossed-off side works best when he's writing for other artists ("touch my body" and "so good" spring to mind) but for himself he excels when he's really making an effort to push things out there.

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

to me this songwriting is on the level of the upbeat jams of LvM

c'mon, something like "mr yeah" was full of hooks and one-liners and quotable wit, this doesn't have a single lyric that doesn't sound like a first-take placeholder

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Friday, 6 January 2012 09:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

i agree that this isn't up there with the grandiose arrangements of love king but that's exactly why i like it!

tpp, Friday, 6 January 2012 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't disagree that this sounds tossed-off, but isn't that part of his charm a lot of the time? Even his best, most-realized tracks have a just-fucking-around quality to them. My favs are the ones where he sounds like he's just having too much fun to edit himself

Yeah but this just feels so perfuctory, like he can't be bothered to stretch himself, it's about as Terius-by-numbers as you can get. Even the guitar freakout at the end feels like it's there because Terius couldn't think of anything else to do. I don't want to listen to sex jams where it feels like the singer is looking at the clock.

Matt DC, Friday, 6 January 2012 10:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think this sounds 'tossed off' at all, and i think your feeling about the guitar part at the end is the same feeling i had about all Terius, which is that after a certain point there's definitely a sense of diminishing returns -- UNLESS the songwriting is there. Which, in this case, I really think it is. I don't think this is particularly 'tossed off' at all, except in the way that often his melodies do seem to come from some kind of improvisational compositional style. but for this most part, this seems like one of his more well-crafted moments

Regional Thug (D-40), Friday, 6 January 2012 10:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

alright i'm fully behind this now, the hook is just so lush and massive

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Saturday, 7 January 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

what hook?

bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, 7 January 2012 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

the part where he sings the song's title repeatedly?

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh that's righzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

you call this a grandiose arrangement? really? "sex intelligent" and "she needs my love" and the "love vs money"s are grandiose arrangements, not this.

this is still pretty grandiose just less serious

flopson, Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

otm

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

what hook?

― bob loblaw people (dayo), Saturday, January 7, 2012 6:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

this song sounds like a somewhat promising demo

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

hey yall are about a year late jumping off the dream bandwagon, fwiw

"what hook" i mean...there's a hook there, use your ears

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha k3v otm

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol, you guys are the one acting like this is a return to form from 1977

bob loblaw people (dayo), Sunday, 8 January 2012 03:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

this isn't like, one of his best 20 songs or anything, but it's got a tune and the production is there, it's an encouraging sign given the majority of his solo shit over the past year and a good song in its own right

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

bingo

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's got a tune and the production is there

settin the bar high

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

well so far you're refusing to acknowledge that either exists. go to bed, homes

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't even dislike this thing, nor am i off the teriuswagon, but it's not even as good as "body work" let alone "fuck my brains out"

all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

smh

"body work" is the nadir of post-golden age thin, tuneless terius

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just think this song is enough to imply that his new project is going to be in the same vein and maybe as good as Love King. This is good news for people that thought '77 was an OH NO DONT DO THAT moment. Its a bit of a relief, like ok he hasn't lost it... phew. Its a serviceable jam that may get a little more praise than it should due to the above reasons.

rolling regional thug waffle (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

^this seems really otm

Thug Luftwaffle (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think that's fairly true.

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Sunday, 8 January 2012 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

hope this is better than love king

regional smug (flopson), Monday, 9 January 2012 05:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't we all.

Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

love king was dope fuiud

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I love it too, still want this new one to better it though.

Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Although my post didnt indicate that fact :/

Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

At this point we need some kind of convoluted venn diagram to cover all the various narc of sd positioning on the-dream's ouvre.

Tim F, Monday, 9 January 2012 06:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuiut(hink) love king isn't his worst album

still waiting for finney and shipley to deliver their verdicts on this one

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still like it even though it is his worst one (besides that other one)

Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

saying its his 'worst album' (i assume you're excluding 1977 which is 10x worse) is arguable at best -- there's no universe in which it's a definitive loser in that race. imho.

somebody call the brinks truck (D-40), Monday, 9 January 2012 07:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I love all three, just like Lk a tiny bit less than the other 2 atm. I pretend 77 isnt there.

Youncle Buck (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 9 January 2012 08:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

^

guapele (The Reverend), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i do not really have the facts to back this but this song kinda blows imo. it's satisfying that it's occupying that kind of sonic zone he excels in, but i feel like the song isn't even there; he usually - on the dream records - has such distinctive phrasing, part of what makes so many of the insane metaphor couplets so memorable, & this just feels like autopilot. wasn't surm talking about the uselessness of 'roc'-centric jams, recently. also rooting for something because it ~might~ ~possibly~ ~portend~ a return to form just reminds me of being 16 and being really invested in when my favourite shitty band was gonna get good again. also it kinda reminds me of justin bieber, idk. i like the first minute of the weird squishy outro but the song is really lazy to me & the only satisfaction i can get out of it is that it is the-dream & i like the way those records feel.

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 15:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbf dream has written a couple bieber hits, lol

good post tho

rebecca blah (k3vin k.), Monday, 9 January 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

new song - is it brostep?

http://youtu.be/309kBjoKkac

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Saturday, 28 January 2012 10:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

I actually kind of dig this

dayo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

excited to hear a new sonic palette

dayo, Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah def.

the emancipation of me-me (tpp), Saturday, 28 January 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

i really like this

J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 January 2012 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm having a hard time with this one, sadly. It just sounds like a YouTube video that's constantly rebuffering.

Evan R, Saturday, 28 January 2012 20:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's had demos leak before... wouldn't be surprised if this one was too

J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's had demos leak before... wouldn't be surprised if this one was too

― J0rdan S., Saturday, 28 January 2012 21:15 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i quite liked the palette of this & then zoned out slightly, but i'd be psyched if it was a demo

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

not feeling it

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 29 January 2012 06:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

smh

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 January 2012 07:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe it's just a rough demo

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 29 January 2012 07:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

that url has me concerned

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's producing on the Pusha T album. The rest is just asking about his influence on those dudes etc

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you get to interview the-dream and your THIRD QUESTION is "i want to know what you think of the the weeknd" you need to get the fuck out of the-dream's office

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

There's a video for ROC now too

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

from what i've seen he's an pretty bad performer but i'm excited that he's going on tour

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

that url has me concerned

― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:46 PM (13 minutes ago)

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

god, this interview

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

"wow i have a face to face interview with the-dream, let me ask him about every hot new singer"

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

complex needs to do a street fashion listicle on the most horrendous glasses/shades they've photographed musicians wearing, with the pic at the top of that interview at #1

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.
The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.
The Weeknd is kinda like you on drugs—literally.

johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

the ROC video is relatively undorky by his standards

Number None, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

now granted i would've spent the entire interview secretly gathering material for my 33 1/3 pitch on the-dream's entire 2009 output, but still

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I will totally pre-order that book.

Evan R, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh man all of us better be cited like crazy in such a book

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"As Dr. Shipley noted on Saturday, January 21, 2010 at 3:07 PM, the concept of 'falltime' is entirely a creation of Nash's imagination."

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

johnny crunch, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha

marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's a radio dj here that still throws "nikki" into mix show sets now and again, i think he's just trolling me

some dude, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

he must be

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

would buy a book consisting of photos of terius looking un-cool (aka every single one)

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

(23) 'Falltime or Failtime: Persistent Myth-Takes of Seasonality in the Work of Terius Nash' by Dr Al B Shipley (Boston, Ilxelsior Press, 2011).

Tim F, Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

shockingly unpretentious and pretty fun video

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

The song just seems like such a non-starter as a single. It's so slight it's barely there, and it runs five and a half minutes. Even in a radio edit, could any station really play this in regular rotation?

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 03:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

no but the last dream single you could say that about was like 6 tries ago

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm not sure he has a place on rap/r&b radio right now

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

and i think that says more about the radio than it does about the-dream

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't think his inability to score a solo hit is an inherently bad thing, of course. It just makes me sad with a song like ROC, which seems to try so hard for radio acceptance but just completely whiffs even as it panders

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

hmmm i don't see it that way

i guess it doesn't really sound like pandering to radio to me... it's very hardcore r&b which seems to have a smaller and smaller slice of playlists on r&b sections nowadays. it sounds like something off the electrik red or mariah albums, both of which were failures by their own standards. i'm sure he's aware of this.

i mean if he REALLY wanted to pander he could call up trey songz or take some a song he wrote for bieber and try and sing it himself... i think he seems more or less content using his capital at def jam to keep writing stuff that sounds like dream solo stuff, popular now or not

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess will.i.am and company have just so completely co-opted the word "rock" that I immediately associate it with the lowest common denominator now.

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

[BTW, Terius is doing the U-Stream thing right now, working on a song that sounds great http://www.ustream.tv/channel/radio-killa-tv]

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy hell there's someone in this chat using the name DrakeGuzzler1

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

♫ deej has a girlfriend, deej has a girlfriend ♫

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Let's be honest tho, ROC kinda sucks

Number None, Friday, 24 February 2012 05:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i've grown to totally love it

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

the bridge is one of my favorite things that he's done in a long while

pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

ROC's grown on me, but I haven't listened to it next to any other Terius stuff so maybe that's why? I love the interpolation of Da Dip.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i completely forgot that "roc" existed

i no longer own it thx to hard drive death and i don't feel compelled to redownload it

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

also

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 24 February 2012 11:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

hulkshare for that new dream, seems to be at a different pitch than that youtube

http://hulkshare.com/3xgzpy6ybvgp

pearsonic, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pitchfork Official SXSW Showcase:

Doors at 7:00 p.m.

8:00 p.m. Fiona Apple
9:15 p.m. Charli XCX
10:00 p.m. Purity Ring
10:45 p.m. Grimes
11:45 p.m. Nicolas Jaar
12:45 a.m. The-Dream

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

what the fuck is fiona apple doing at the bottom of that bill >:(

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

also full tour sched is out
lol that i had seen "the dream" listed as playing in new haven like a wk ago but i didnt think it was really the-dream !

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I cannot really imagine wanting to go and see him live, I imagine he'd be kinda terrible?

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

that does seem 2 be what ppl say...idk i might still go just out of curiousity

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

are you gonna go see him?

flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

well either i will or wont, those are the options as i see them

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

excellent

flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 12:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

he was okay when i saw him live - not mind-blowing or anything but not embarrassing. i guess as a support act (to keri hilson lol) there's not much room to fuck up, you just get up there and sing your songs and get off again

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, the fact that he was singing great songs helped, obv

lex pretend, Friday, 24 February 2012 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Roc is just alright on first listen - need to buy it when it comes out to get a better handle in it

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kinda wanna stay away from SXSW but I might try to see this

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 24 February 2012 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, he's by no means terrible live. I think I saw him between Bobby Valentino, Keri Hilson and Keyshia Cole, and if nothing else he was better than Bobby Valentino.

My most vivid memory from the show is the crowd sitting down during "Love vs. Money."

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Kill The Lights" is really bad; the production is just anemic :( This is the great single he's naming his tour after?

Evan R, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lloyd was actually really good when i saw him live

D-40, Sunday, 26 February 2012 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think I saw him between Bobby Valentino, Keri Hilson and Keyshia Cole, and if nothing else he was better than Bobby Valentino.

think we must have seen the same tour! iirc bobby v was much more of the showman. i missed keyshia because that's when i was doing the interview.

terius apparently working with tulisa now, huh.

lex pretend, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Keyshia's show was surprisingly high-production. Her stage looked like a West Side Story set.

Lloyd has killed it live every time I've seen him.

Evan R, Sunday, 26 February 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

im glad i went 2 this
got there a lil late cuz of a dumb #letmehelpyouwithyourgirlproblem & he was just finishing falsetto; not sure how many songs i missed
dream is such a ham i was lol'ing so much
he played fancy and said hes never performed it b4
after the awz build to the drums @ the end it turned into like death metal drum fills & dream just strutting it was so absurd

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

shit, was this in ct?

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol yea dude new haven

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

damn, where?

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

he's playing here 2nite but i'm not going

pretty sure he sux live and I hate the venue

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

toads place xp

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

duh. gah

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, as much as it's possible to perform his songs w/ a live band, it's not that bad

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

altho they were wanding ppl to get in, i dont remember them doing that when i saw yo la tengo there

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

YOU USED TO BE ANTI INTERNET

BUT NOW YOU'RE CONSTANTLY BLOGGING AND SHIT

― seasoning sauce all over me (tpp), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 6:05 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was hilarious how he sang/emphasized it

johnny crunch, Sunday, 11 March 2012 06:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck, i forgot he was on tour. i need to get tickets.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 11 March 2012 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh dear

http://rapradar.com/2012/03/13/the-weeknd-responds-to-the-dream/

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

my god what the fuck is he talking about

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol srsly

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Jesus Iz Bakk says:
Tuesday, March 13 2012 at 10:17 AM EST

I cannot believe the way these guys write. It’s incomprehensible and downright retarded. Twitter or not, a basic understanding of commas and apostrophes will suffice.

It’s disgusting really.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh lord

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

please let's keep beef culture out of r&b

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

that was the saddest thing i read all month

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

someone needs to tell the weeknd to kiss the ring imo

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just wish people wouldn’t say things like that, because these days, everybody is influenced by everybody (and let’s keep it real, his first album had so many attempts at the brotha trying to sound like Prince).

http://madamenoire.com/145453/really-the-dream-says-rb-dudes-have-been-trying-to-steal-his-sound/

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

someone needs to tell the weeknd to kiss the ring imo

Yes! Future Love IV music video, Rakim-style!

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nash didn't name names but Tesfaye got tweet-combative anyway?

Andy K, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nash just said he was thinking of 4 people. So yep, getting defensive I guess.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 16:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

6-12 months before they collaborate on a track?

Andy K, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

So who are the other 3 he had in mind?

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Frank Ocean was probably one. Miguel, maybe and Trey Songz, plus Weeknd.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's just naming the only four male breakout r&b singers of the past few years

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean maybe he did actually mean it that way but...

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

four probably wasn't an exact number

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, depends. Hard to say if it's something he's been ruminating on mathematical-like! Or just in the frustrated general sense...

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

“I haven’t done a show in close to two years, and ever since then, there’s like four n****s who sound like me now. I’m just being honest. I remember before 2007, nobody knew what to do with this s**t.”

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

"like four"

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

It just sounds like kind of a failed brag to me. "I'm super influential. There are, like, four people who sound like me."

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Diss silliness aside, though, this concert looks insanely fun:

Gonna have to check this tour out, especially if he's playing "Right Side of My Brain."

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

0_o that girl onstage during "purple kisses" looks about 14

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

k somehow got weirder

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know... first time I've seen an audience volunteer look absolutely disgusted to be a part of one of those on-stage seduction routines.

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

fuck if he's singing "purple kisses" i'm gonna be at that show

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

That could be you up there, J0rdan!

Evan R, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll prob be the only person who knows all the words to that song

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

#lovecult

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll prob be the only person who knows all the words to that song

― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:30 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol rme. the girl onstage knew the words!

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty sure the audience at a Dream show is going to have a sizeable contingent of obsessive nerds

Number None, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

pretty sure i can sing love/hate front 2 back. just sayin

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp show i was at was legit 75% women, with a sizeable contingent of dudes just chillin in the back who maybe had been dragged their by their girl & actively trying to look disinterested

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

Man. Haven't spun L/H in too long. Time to bust out Purple Kisses and/or Luv Songs.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'll prob be the only person who knows all the words to that song

― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

#lovecult

― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 19:32 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

understanding this made years of trawling through the-dream's twitter account & scanning terrible don draper jpg strewn messageboards for hulkshare links totally worth it, ty

john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you get to interview the-dream and your THIRD QUESTION is "i want to know what you think of the the weeknd" you need to get the fuck out of the-dream's office

― pre-tennis ball head-era chris brown (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:52 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i would take this classic post further and say that anyone who heard The-Dream's comment about other new R&B acts sounding like him and immediately thought of The-Weeknd needs to gtfo, his influence is all over actual radio acts

some dude, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tesfaye/Weekend thought it was about him

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Weeknd

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes, he's one of the people that needs to gtfo

some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

no one posted this yet?!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-dream-previews-seductive-new-album-20120314#ixzz1p89dicEk

"Foreplay": A nostalgic mid-tempo number with electric guitars and thumping percussion that begs for comparisons to The-Dream's freaky-R&B forebear, R. Kelly.

"Equestrian": Ginuwine's "Pony" gets a redux with pounding drums. "I love the way you ride/Equestrian," The-Dream croons, his falsetto blending effortlessly over the beat. He even toys with his lower register, a welcome distraction from the song's hackneyed "Giddy up" outro. During this listening session, The-Dream closed his eyes and began winding and shimmying by himself to the track.

"Loving You": In which The-Dream loves so hard, it becomes downright aggressive. Vocals, synths, guitars and yearning lyrics undulate together to the brink of insanity, and yet it never sounds cacophonous. "I can't take all the credit, the cocaine had a lot to do with it," The-Dream mused afterward, presumably joking.

"Slow It Down": "I know they ain't gonna play this on Top 40 radio," The-Dream dares on this strip club-ready song about rolling, grinding and myriad other forms of gyration.

"Divine," featuring Mary J. Blige: Booming theatrics lead off one of the album's most introspective cuts. "As the seats recline/This is divine," The-Dream murmurs, contemplating success. Blige provides only ancillary vocal coos over lush violins, creating an airy effect.

"Paid," featuring Gucci Mane: Kickstarted with a sample from the gangster flick New Jack City (Nino Brown's famous quote: "The fruit of our hard work/Am I my brother's keeper?"), "Paid" is a requisite hip-hop banger about balling with just $100 in your pocket. Gucci Mane delivers a formidable verse: "If I could/I'd give a hug to the money," he croaks. "I think I was doing that while I was doing crack," The-Dream laughed while playing the track.

"Katrina": A masculine counterpart to Beyoncé's "Irreplaceable," this chest-pounding, unfinished song encourages men to move on from bad relationships. "This is strictly for my niggas," The-Dream croons – though, to be fair, the women present found the song to be irresistible.

"Talk That Shit": Cue the subliminal shots! "Talk That Shit" is a veiled jab at new-generation R&B weirdos who have been heavily influenced by The-Dream's style. "Y'all niggas so disrespectful remixing my own shit," he blasts before jumping into a medley of his hits, from "Fancy" to "Shawty Is a 10." Although The-Dream wouldn't reveal any specific names, chatter during the session implied that "Bed" singer J. Holiday and The Weeknd were possible targets.

"Y'all": "If this ain't the realest thing I ever wrote," sings The-Dream on this markedly sensitive, vulnerable number, where he spills his guts about his oft-beleaguered reputation as an artist, father and man. The self-anointed "Superman" admits that, yes, even he has flaws – "Sometimes even my cape needs dry cleaning" – before making peace with himself, concluding, "Crucify me if you want, but I won't stop loving y'all."

handy ban (lou), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

thank you lou!

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

album sounds sufficiently hilarious!

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had almost forgotten this was happening! when is it due?

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Thursday, 15 March 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

"presumably joking"

goole, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Although The-Dream wouldn't reveal any specific names, chatter during the session implied that "Bed" singer J. Holiday and The Weeknd were possible targets.

What about "Baby" singer Justin Bieber or "Just Like Me" singer Jamie Foxx?

Andy K, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

remember when the-dream was beefing with chris brown before it was cool

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

When he embarrassed him at the Freaky Forebears Waterpark dunk tank.

Andy K, Thursday, 15 March 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm shocked the album exists in something resembling a finished state this far out from its scheduled release. Usually when I review R&B albums, I get the sense they were hastily finalized about two weeks before they hit shelves, if that.

Evan R, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

really? i haven't gotten that impression w/ most major label albums, a lot of them seem to be sitting on the shelf for a minute and then get a few of-the-minute rappers thrown on at the last minute

some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

is the writer sure that the lyric "sometimes even my cape needs dry cleaning" is a Superman reference?

some dude, Thursday, 15 March 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

a superman that hoe reference

The Reverend, Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow i can deal with mary j and gucci for sure. no drake? big sean? etc? please let this be true

been to lots of college and twitter (k3vin k.), Thursday, 15 March 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

During this listening session, The-Dream closed his eyes and began winding and shimmying by himself to the track.

This is amazing

boxedjoy, Thursday, 15 March 2012 23:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

his weird self-imploding ripple dance is still playing in my head when i close my eyes, since i saw him do it to fast car on that tour video a couple of days back.

I'm shocked the album exists in something resembling a finished state this far out from its scheduled release. Usually when I review R&B albums, I get the sense they were hastily finalized about two weeks before they hit shelves, if that.

― Evan R, Thursday, 15 March 2012 20:06 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm!, it is encouraging, particularly because the view we got into his process when he made his free record made it sound super flexible. i mean i guess it isn't finished but at least there are big chunks done that he's ready to go play out with.

also the weeknd said this guy looks like the hamburglar, feel like this should be posted itt

john-claude van donne (schlump), Friday, 16 March 2012 11:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

April 17, apparently.

Andy K, Friday, 16 March 2012 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

He looks like the hamburglar every day

Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 March 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

"I'm going to work with Shakira at some point over the next couple of months," says The-Dream, "and she was always on my wish list, because she's another one of those females, a great female artist." As for his dream of working with Chris Martin of Coldplay? "That's just a Jay-Z phone call away," he says.


http://www.billboard.com/column/sxsw/video-the-dream-talks-love-iv-shakira-at-1006490752.story#/column/sxsw/video-the-dream-talks-love-iv-shakira-at-1006490752.story

curmudgeon, Saturday, 17 March 2012 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

i haven't been able to shake the impression of The-Dream as Jazze Pha's mini-me since the "Shawty Is A 10" video

dude didn't even have any real radio hits even as a writer for a year or two there, but "Love On Top" and "Birthday Cake" changed that, maybe he can stop his commercial tailspin after all

some dude, Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, he's lucky that something off that beyonce album finally hit

3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 March 2012 21:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

So I saw The-Dream at the Fillmore Silver Spring last night, outside Washington DC. He had a drummer and 2 keyboard/synth players (one of whom also played bass). The-Dream alternated between singing live, and singing along or lip-synching with pre-recorded vocal tracks or letting the crowd sing while he asked for more Patrone. The show lasted for just an hour( $33 admission). He did dance and strut energetically. He's in tour mode: was wearing the same Oakland Raiders cap, black sunglasses, black jacket, and Roc-a-Fella Records necklace I read that he wore in NYC at SOBs.
He again proclaimed himself "the realest" out there, and grumbled more about the fakes who have imitated him in the last two years. Much of the crowd did not seem enthused with the cover of "Beat that p*ssy up". I didn't like it. It was alternately sad and comical watching him go overboard in his attempt to be a swaggering 2012 era foul-mouthed star, or maybe that was part of his Marvin Gaye for 2012 mad at my ex shtick. I forgot the name of the other mad at his ex song he did. "Walking on the Moon," "Shawty", "Falsetto," "Kill the Lights," "Rockin' that ..." all went over better. He had a woman singer come onstage and do a song and a half(the latter was part of Kanye's "All of the Lights" that I think he assisted in writing).

curmudgeon, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^ valuable dispatch from somewhere outside the borders of Teriustan

some dude, Sunday, 18 March 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

as a recovering terius stan i have no real desire to see him live. his twitter makes him seem like a clown

art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just realized how badly Chris Brown's "Strip" bites "Rockin' That Shit."

Evan R, Monday, 19 March 2012 00:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-dream-at-fillmore-silver-spring/2012/03/18/gIQAFBtDLS_story.html

The freelancer reviewing him for the Washington Post was now wowed either. She and Caramanica in the NY Times were harsh on Nash's vocals. I'm less concerned with him not having Al Green's range and more with what he was singing, his cliched between song patter, and with his reliance on the backing vocal tracks. He's a great songwriter though.

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 12:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

gotta say i'm leaning towards becoming a "recovering terius stan" too. not saying he'll be useless from here on in obv, i'm sure there'll be great stuff to come, but the god period, the imperial phase, is over

lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Away from a stage and his twitter, he might still be able to write and record strong material

curmudgeon, Monday, 19 March 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

that's how it usually works, yeah

some dude, Monday, 19 March 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had an absolute blast at the show tonight

come on a #KONY (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

i think we were lucky that we saw him after he had played a few weeks of dates... he obv can't really sing but he was great on stage and the band was good, none of the tracks sounded like ass or were turned into linkin park tracks.

the set was pretty heavy on LH & LVM, i don't think he played any album tracks off LK, tho he did do one of the ones of 1977 that i don't remember. singles got the best responses but like when he dropped into the rap on "fancy" the entire crowd was spitting w/ him, it was kinda nuts.

also he did "i luv your girl" -> loverance which was hilarious and pretty awesome

anyway it wasn't a mindblowing show but it was really fun just to be in a big room full of people that knew all the songs and all the words and it was appropriately goofy and all that

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

also he ended w/ "rockin that shit" which was prob the biggest response then he went off for a sec and came back for "let me see the booty" which was pretty hype. but i love that song.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kicking myself for not driving down to this show tonight; totally forgot about it :(

Evan R, Sunday, 25 March 2012 07:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

so weird to think of him closing w/ his biggest hit and then encoring with the flop that the other song was a face-saving recovery from

internet somebody (some dude), Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

yes, very weird

dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

it was an incredible act of defiance

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm always shocked when setlists aren't structured in reverse order of chart performance

Evan R, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

he came on stage and did a bit of "love vs money" ("when love is a problem" repeated) then went right into "shawty is a 10" which got the crowd going, then he did "fast car" -> 90 seconds or so of "nikki"... then i think he did "kill the lights" and let casha do that cover from 1977. then i think he did "falsetto" (while miming getting head w/ the mic as his dick, obv)

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

he also did "falsetto" in the middle of the set, did the "gangsta luv" and "throw it in the bag" hooks, did "roc your body" (this sounded good) "walkin on the moon" (this sounded surprisingly great), "purple kisses"... was surprised that he didn't do "yamaha" tho

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

also all the house music was songs that he'd written for other artists

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

then i think he did "falsetto" (while miming getting head w/ the mic as his dick, obv)

― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

having a lot of trouble imagining how this could happen

dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

yea 'walking on the moon' was a highlight i recall too

kinda pissed i didnt get a 'let me see the booty' "encore", otherwise hes prob doin the same set everywhere more or less

johnny crunch, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i think he's been doing the same set

i was with some friends that had been checking the setlists and once he finished w/ "rockin that shit" they were like "that's it, he's done" but then he came out for "let me see the booty" so i guess it was something he was feeling last night or w/e

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

having a lot of trouble imagining how this could happen

― dayo, Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:47 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

he held the mic at his crotch like it was his dick and sorta like... idk slowly humped the air while moving his hand on the mic. it was bizarre, obv.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

o - who was doing the singing, or was it piped in?

dayo, Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

there was a backing track but he was signing def singing. he let the crowd do a lot tho.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 25 March 2012 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

also all the house music was songs that he'd written for other artists

― J0rdan S., Sunday, March 25, 2012 12:44 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

that's pretty cool imo -- i'm always surprised artists w/ a big catalog of side projects or whatever that don't do something like that when playing live

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 13:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Terius Nash ‏ @MrTeriusNash
Shout out to my nigga Carlos "Los" Mckinney who Produce this record with Me!

^encouraging

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

=

Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't disagree with this YouTube commenter:

she sexy but cant sing.. he fuxn her dats y she on da track.. but she soo fine
officialdollface14 2 hours ago

Evan R, Thursday, 29 March 2012 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

man down (D-40), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

FUCK no

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

-_-

dharunravir (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

lolwut

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

glad homie finally came out of the closet as a garden gnome, we all knew the truth all these years anyway

some dude, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

hahaha

hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

*deletes all my terius albums*

dayo, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

next album: The Love Aquatic

Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yay

Evan R, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

i appreciate the way he's making it easy for us to get over him

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 09:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe it was shocked blonde?

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still don't understand; is this a costume, or did he Chris Brown his beard for fashion purposes?

Evan R, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

wake me when it's over

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

radiokillarecords.com
oh man i really like this?

blossom smulch (schlump), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:15 (11 months ago) Permalink

same

just sayin, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:35 (11 months ago) Permalink

it's the first dream thing in a while that sounds really interesting or fun. roc was v prefab. he's singing it real nice - that real nice old vocal style breakdown near the break at the end - it's kinda playful, like i can see it as the weird upbeat florida university analogue on a new record.

blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:40 (11 months ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

deadcandace (diamonddave85), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:51 (11 months ago) Permalink

lol

shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:26 (11 months ago) Permalink

what are you guys listening to on that site

♆ (gr8080), Saturday, 9 June 2012 21:14 (11 months ago) Permalink

Love IV MMXII

is this really the name now

johnny crunch, Saturday, 9 June 2012 22:27 (11 months ago) Permalink

damn i love "dope bitch"

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:39 (11 months ago) Permalink

the hook is alright but the rest is kind of a mess imo

the route is ban (k3vin k.), Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:43 (11 months ago) Permalink

i like this, it's Different!

flopson, Sunday, 10 June 2012 18:47 (11 months ago) Permalink

kind of Old School

flopson, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:16 (11 months ago) Permalink

I love it too. It puts a smile on my face.

longneck, Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (11 months ago) Permalink

this is good.

“Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:17 (11 months ago) Permalink

total summer jam

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:40 (11 months ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/20345672

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:41 (11 months ago) Permalink

(nsfw)

♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:41 (11 months ago) Permalink

thats that impeach the president break no

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:45 (11 months ago) Permalink

why are all terius' singles these days so demo-sounding and basic? this sounds unfinished

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:00 (11 months ago) Permalink

it's also hard to care when he himself sounds completely uninvested in it

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:00 (11 months ago) Permalink

i more or less agree w/ lex

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

altho "roc (your body)" is still amazing

J0rdan S., Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:04 (11 months ago) Permalink

thats that impeach the president break no

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:45 PM Bookmark

"synthetic substitution", i think?

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 20:26 (11 months ago) Permalink

oh yah u right

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:24 (11 months ago) Permalink

you down with old pusha t / yah u know me

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:25 (11 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

'pieces' is the only song he's put out (or leaked whatever) this year i really f/w. it's a classic tho.

hardhouse banter (tpp), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 16:09 (10 months ago) Permalink

dude i know did a nice edit of dope bitch:

http://soundcloud.com/djsssolution/the-dream-dope-bitch-feat

♆ (gr8080), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:50 (10 months ago) Permalink

so terius' first london appearance (to my knowledge?) is going to be today at wireless festival on a bill below chiddy bang and dot rotten. ummmm kind of annoyed about this?

hardhouse banter (tpp), Saturday, 7 July 2012 10:51 (10 months ago) Permalink

same

just sayin, Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:18 (10 months ago) Permalink

oh damn. he's not anywhere else after?

blossom smulch (schlump), Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

nope (afaik)

just sayin, Saturday, 7 July 2012 11:47 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

hm that was supposed 2 be the embed of
http://www.thefader.com/2012/06/25/interview-zola-jesus-and-the-dream-at-vitaminwater-uncapped/

johnny crunch, Friday, 27 July 2012 21:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

a sad url

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 July 2012 00:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

seriously

nakhchi little van (some dude), Saturday, 28 July 2012 04:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

So no word on this album whatsoever, huh? sad.

Evan R, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

didn't he essentially say he was giving up on his solo career when he took that job as exec a&r or w/e it was

lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

ARGH. You got my hopes up.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

ah damn, never heard that. it always seemed like he was going forward full-throttle with the album, even though the label had the parking brake on the whole time. kinda hard to watch

Evan R, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:11 (6 months ago) Permalink

didn't he essentially say he was giving up on his solo career when he took that job as exec a&r or w/e it was

― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, October 30, 2012 7:04 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm sorta betraying my sad attention to that yeezy forum, here, but afaik there are still def jam ads coming out w/NEW ALBUM FROM THE-DREAM SOON on. def jam are weird. i really hope he puts something out.

absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

Eh, I'm good with the three he released.

Luchinski pourin' from the sky, let's get rich (what) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

you don't have to give them up if THE LOVE IV: DIARY OF AN EXECUTIVE A&R sucks

absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:39 (6 months ago) Permalink

I want that album.

O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

So, this is actually dropping some day?

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 30 October 2012 22:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

whole record of casha iirc xp

& i guess so?, i mean it has been rolled back a zillion times but he has a bunch of stuff that exists; there was that article (in rolling stone?) about a listening session w/like jams called equestrian (you can fill out the metaphorical territory of this teriusism) & w/dream walking around telling everyone the songs were about cocaine.

absurdly pro-D (schlump), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

def jam has gotten better in recent years about just going ahead and putting out records even if the commercial expectations for the artist have dwindled, so i wouldn't be surprised if they squeak this out sooner than later

Victory Goon (some dude), Tuesday, 30 October 2012 23:04 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Wait, what????

B-Rock & The Bizz was a hip-hop rap group consisting of producer Baron "B-Rock" Agee, his brother Leevirt Agee from New York City, Paul Costict, Maurice White, Albert Phillip, Mc Kay and Thaddeus "T-Bird" Maye from Mobile, Alabama. Together, Leevirt Agee, Paul Costict, Maurice White, Albert Phillip, and T-Bird Maye were known as The Bizz.

The group is best known for their hit single, "My Baby Daddy", which peaked at #10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in April 1997. The song was the group's only hit making them a one-hit wonder.

In 1999, Terius "The Dream" Nash replaced T-Bird Maye on the group's second album entitled Porkin' Beans & Wienes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-Rock_and_the_Bizz

Complex Magazine asserts this as fact: http://www.complex.com/music/2012/05/the-100-best-hip-hop-one-hit-wonders/brock-the-bizz-my-baby-daddy

Evan R, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:29 (6 months ago) Permalink

not very shocking, dude's been kicking around the industry doing this and that for a long time

bish don't kill my bosch (some dude), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

If it's true, and I'm not sure that it is, it means that:

1. Terius worked hard as hell to scrub this from his resume

2. There may exist video of him performing "My Baby Daddy"

Evan R, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 19:59 (6 months ago) Permalink

we already done this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=z2LeGZXZuG8
still deciding what i think of it

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 November 2012 01:13 (5 months ago) Permalink

and another one

johnny crunch, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

wow that new one just goes on forever

Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

lol "tender tendencies," this shit is garbage

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

god I can't believe I didn't turn that off after the 1st minute

乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

AK47 is less fatiguing but maybe I didnt need to hear about him fingerfucking

乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

mayyyyyyyybe

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

I mean, yeah, in his prime he could have probably pulled off a concept album about it

Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 18:39 (5 months ago) Permalink

we've got miguel now

liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

urgh please no either/or bullshit

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:53 (5 months ago) Permalink

ha was that directed at me? maybe i should take out my displeasure at no one posting in my miguel poll by polling these two.....

nah tho

liljon /bia/ bia (k3vin k.), Monday, 26 November 2012 18:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

hey man that poll got 30+ votes, quit yer bellyachin

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:02 (5 months ago) Permalink

not sure what i feel about "tender tendencies." I feel like the Weekend (to bring him into this) does what "Tender Tendencies" tries to by showing instead of telling. erius tells us he's self-centered; Tesfaye actually acts self-centered. He doesn't have to tell us this.

childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:36 (5 months ago) Permalink

feather-soft pillows of a track tho, gorgeous stuff

childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 26 November 2012 19:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

Sort of intrigued by the thought of a Sophie's Choice between The-Dream and Miguel. I'd probably be Team Terius, but it would be a tough one

Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:08 (5 months ago) Permalink

or maybe we can listen to multiple R&B singers! or maybe not

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/11/ocean-weekend-miguel-best.php

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:11 (5 months ago) Permalink

hahaha

Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

That article brings me so much irrational joy. Like, I had to re-read the whole thing again, just because you posted it

Evan R, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:23 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

As I was saying, the 1977 remaster sounds MAGNIFICENT

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 13:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

pity about the songwriting

Number None, Friday, 14 December 2012 13:59 (5 months ago) Permalink

Songwriting is great, man. I really don't understand why y'all think it isn't.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 14:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

what did you think of love king

k3vin k., Friday, 14 December 2012 19:24 (5 months ago) Permalink

Loved it.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

I mean, I know all of the 1977 songs by heart. They're great: perfect, bitter-but-uplifting breakup songs. And Form of Flattery is such a great diss.

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:41 (5 months ago) Permalink

longneck I don't know if I can trust your opinion about anything anymore

乒乓, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

tsk tsk tsk

dyslectic Christ Brown (longneck), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

ha yeah you fell right into mytrap

k3vin k., Saturday, 15 December 2012 02:07 (5 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

"slow it down" dropping today, apparently

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 February 2013 12:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

this song sucks

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 00:53 (3 months ago) Permalink

the production on his songs has really fallen off, "roc your body" excepted

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 01:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

tricky is busy on this sub-weeknd b.s. :-/

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 01:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

Does not suck. Is great. Love it.

longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 09:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

it's just sad how much terius has fallen off at this point :(

always used to love how he could somehow produce genius even when being really obviously lazy/tossed-off but there are just no ideas left

lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 10:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

the well does indeed appear to be dry

then again i do love "nobody's business" (purely as a song dammit, not for CB)

my lurker username is looking shitty these days

livethedream, Friday, 15 February 2013 12:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

nah this is fantastic. total return to form after all that post-love king bullshit imo

Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

i dont think it's awful, but it sounds to me like someone trying to ape dreams style more than anything else, which is incredibly :[

johnny crunch, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:29 (3 months ago) Permalink

i think his downward turn in consistency has been pretty gradual and not actually that huge, though just enough to matter obviously, but i don't even know how this song is half as good as "Dope Chick"

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 14:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

I love them both.

longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 14:53 (3 months ago) Permalink

"dope chick" has the dopiest chorus, i could never get into that song

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

it's not top shelf or anything, but it grew on me

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

i feel like every time this guy drops a song, a random set of people are like "a return to form!"

i mean i thought that about "roc your body" so no hate, it's just a weird phenomenon

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

I'll give support to J0rdan's point: This new track is great; his best since "Body Work/Fuck My Brains Out." Didn't think he had something so bottomlessly hooky in him anymore. Return to form.

Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 15:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

i really liked "fuck my brains out" too

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

That's the shit he does better than anybody else... just barrage you with hook after hook after hook after twist after hook. It's an incredible thing, so I can forgive him for losing his knack for it. Nobody could sustain that writing style for more than three or four years

Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

"fuck my brains out" is the only solo terius song i've really loved post-love king

baffled at any love for this - even "roc" was sort-of-ok in a basic way but this is just sad

lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

i honestly always thought his solo stuff was just one decent-sized fraction of his best work. these days would much rather hear something he's written for Beyonce or Rihanna or whoever, feel like his outside writing has suffered less lately.

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:05 (3 months ago) Permalink

yeah his stuff on 4 doesn't back up my impression that he's fallen off post-love king (but then looking at the list of writers lord knows how much he had to do with those songs)

lex pretend, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

xp That's definitely true, but his solo records gave him room to just let a song ride in a way the songs he writes for bigger stars never could. His best solo stuff was always so unhurried, so you could just sit there and luxuriate in how hooky and gorgeous it all was. I miss that vibe.

Evan R, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:09 (3 months ago) Permalink

it's funny that he starts this new song off by saying "i know they're not gonna play this on top 40 radio" despite that quote from a year or so ago where he was like "i can write a solo smash whenever i want to, that's not what i'm going for right now. i'm gonna do that when i'm 50."

d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:10 (3 months ago) Permalink

I miss good terius so much

乒乓, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:32 (3 months ago) Permalink

chillin w/ my ella / there's nothin u can tella

乒乓, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:33 (3 months ago) Permalink

This is a bit of a trifle but I'm enjoying it, more than I expected to from reading the most recent posts at least. Fabolous verse is woeful though.

I stand by my theory that Terius has always had pretty much zero quality control, but he barely needed it up to 2010 or thereabouts because his overall quality was so high.

Matt DC, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

the fab verse definitely sucks but the nu-dream alternative would've been an electric guitar solo so i can deal with it

Jacques_Lamure, Friday, 15 February 2013 16:43 (3 months ago) Permalink

no one will be talking about this song a month from now

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:16 (3 months ago) Permalink

Listened once, that's probably enough.

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 15 February 2013 17:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

no one will be talking about this song a month from now

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, February 15, 2013 5:16 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No. They'll be singing it instead, looking at butts.

longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 17:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

a generic 3rd rate version of one of his actually-good songs probably WILL be the one that blows up & makes me hate the-dream

still dont think it'll be this one, though

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:17 (3 months ago) Permalink

I quite like the sound of Fab's verse, if not the content

Number None, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:20 (3 months ago) Permalink

if the-dream ever makes a solo song that blows up and people sing along with again, it will definitely feature the line "looking at butts"

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 18:22 (3 months ago) Permalink

I don't know about you guys but when he sings "You can see her ass from a satelite!" I get all warm and fuzzy inside.

longneck, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:49 (3 months ago) Permalink

Can he go away and not come back until he's made a whole album along the lines of "Schoolin Life" (not strictly the same, but variations on that theme. Preferably with Bey)

Tim F, Friday, 15 February 2013 20:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

tim did you hear his song on the keyshia album

rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 15 February 2013 22:15 (3 months ago) Permalink

man i swear for all the years i've been bullshitting about terius on this board i've never understood anyone's - except probably tim's - taste in dream songs. this os hardly a leap forward or anything - i don't want to say "those days are over" because he'll come and hit us with some of his best work out of nowhere like he did with "4", but the days of that being the norm are certainly over - but this is just a solid terius joint. real warm, hooky, everything in its right place, sort of 2013's "FILA". i'm OK with this existing

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:15 (3 months ago) Permalink

oh boy tim's against me and i'm agreeing with matt dc and longneck. up is down, left is right, luol deng is a back-to-back all-star

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

this is just a solid terius joint. real warm, hooky, everything in its right place, sort of 2013's "FILA". i'm OK with this existing

^^ this is otm i think. was super curious to hear this having read a couple of responses here but yeah it's just like ... fine, & nice. it's funny, i was reading some thing about suit & tie in which the reviewer talked about various things having stepped into timberlake's shoes in the five years in which he was quiet, dream records & frank ocean & various subgenres of r&b, &c, & wrt this song that feels kinda pronounced, too, like hearing something that's so terius - in being this pretty lush textural build-up of all of his favourite tropes - the song feels like a more specialist, slightly marginal catalogue entry for dream fans more than it does an general new release by anyone else. like you go to it for what you get from him, & you get a kinda 2013 FILA as a result, even if that thing has become slightly less significant or universal than it once was. i'm psyched for the record too, even as just a bunch of generic dream textural synth jams. it sounds nice.

schlump, Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

thing is terius has made solid, unremarkable, even terius-by-numbers singles before - "rockin' that shit", "love king", "fila" - that he obviously did in 10 minutes but they were still pretty likable and hooky. this is just tired.

lex pretend, Saturday, 16 February 2013 09:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

Well this is definitely likable and hooky to me. It is self-consciously throwback, but in a fun way. But then again I love terius-by-numbers better than I love almost any other numbers.

longneck, Saturday, 16 February 2013 10:53 (3 months ago) Permalink

I only had to play it twice before the kids and wife started to sing along to it. They didn't say anything about it being tired either.

longneck, Saturday, 16 February 2013 10:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

"rockin that shit" was unremarkable hmmmmk

manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:10 (3 months ago) Permalink

haha yeah i raised an eyebrow at that too

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:33 (3 months ago) Permalink

it's funny that he starts this new song off by saying "i know they're not gonna play this on top 40 radio" despite that quote from a year or so ago where he was like "i can write a solo smash whenever i want to, that's not what i'm going for right now. i'm gonna do that when i'm 50."

― d'eejban (J0rdan S.), Friday, February 15, 2013 11:10 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

there's also the 'radio killah' that gets sung right before this part

乒乓, Saturday, 16 February 2013 16:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

career killah killah killah

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Saturday, 16 February 2013 16:05 (3 months ago) Permalink

imo ppl repping for this song are in denial or fetishizing dream's dream-ness

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:56 (3 months ago) Permalink

ok

乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

nah you're straight lying to yourself if you think this is up there with his worst stuff. it pretty undeniably has hooks!

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:06 (3 months ago) Permalink

i mean people who stanned for "abyss" and most of love king aren't gonna tell me what has a tune and what doesn't

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:07 (3 months ago) Permalink

abyss is so much better than this its not even funny

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

im willing to buy that for someone coming to dream w/ no context for his work or w/e might have no problem w/ this but you dont even have that excuse

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:13 (3 months ago) Permalink

well as i said, it's a second-rate FILA, but give me those over "abyss" or something like "body work"

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

I quite like the sound of Fab's verse, if not the content

― Number None, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:20 (2 days ago) Bookmark

fab comparing himself to winnie the pooh is probably the only worthwhile bit of the track

r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

im not huge on abyss but

abyss is so much better than this its not even funny

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:12 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

is otm

johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:29 (3 months ago) Permalink

Abyss is awesome wtf

skeet-skeet-gate (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

i dont dislike abyss but dream has 20+ better songs imo

johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

but i don't even know how this song is half as good as "Dope Chick"

― weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Friday, 15 February 2013 14:52 (2 days ago) Bookmark

true

'dope chick' is actually a real lil outlier for terius imo, an agreeable cute radio track that lives for itself (not outstandingly memorably so, but still) and doesnt lean very heavily at all on his mythos

in the absence of any inspiration forthcoming he'd have been vastly better off chilling out and racking up three or four of those instead of putting the tattered pink chanel suit through the sewing machine one mo gin

r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:44 (3 months ago) Permalink

i never liked dope chick tbh

johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:47 (3 months ago) Permalink

& actually hearing this in higher quality than i did the first few times, im w/ it much more than initially

johnny crunch, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:50 (3 months ago) Permalink

aaaaand that'll be deej otm

r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

there is no rational reason to listen to this new one more than 1.5 times

r|t|c, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

:'{

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

people get all weirdly out of shape about what dream songs are acceptable to like and idgi. i'm not really into this song but if other people are, that's fine.

The Reverend, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

^

乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

no other people being into this song is completely unacceptable

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

if we arent willing to die for this then what will we die for?

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

the-dream doesn't really warrant a ballot poll of best tracks but i almost wish you guys would do one just to get the endless hair-splitting over his catalog out of your system

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:39 (3 months ago) Permalink

:D

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:41 (3 months ago) Permalink

lets get this puppy above 500 new answers it'll just be like old times

乒乓, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

good news is green is definitely the leading scorer after that debacle

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:44 (3 months ago) Permalink

whoops wrong thread

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:45 (3 months ago) Permalink

damn i was having fun trying to figure out how it might possibly not be the wrong thread

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:45 (3 months ago) Permalink

if we arent willing to die for this then what will we die for?

― rap steve gadd (D-40), Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:36 PM Bookmark

something other than the narc of sd

The Reverend, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:56 (3 months ago) Permalink

deej has basically been the

since the dude's second album dropped though

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:01 (3 months ago) Permalink

hardly

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:09 (3 months ago) Permalink

almost every person itt had picked over his catalog song by song

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:10 (3 months ago) Permalink

but good to get a vote from the deej police

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:11 (3 months ago) Permalink

yeah i don't think it's particularly accurate to single deej out as the dream police, we all probably think of ourselves as the authority on his work tbh

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:20 (3 months ago) Permalink

something other than the narc of sd

― The Reverend, Saturday, February 16, 2013 9:56 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

well i guess you'll be leaving ilx then

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

i enjoyed Roc and quite like Slow It Down. didn't adore Dope Bitch. All of them are worse than Fuck My Brains Out (and I don't dislike Body Work the way some people here do.)

Abyss is one of my least favourite tracks on Love King (also Panties to the Side) but they work in the context of the album and I enjoy Abyss when I hear it on the LP I just wouldn't ever put it on otherwise. Whereas I can see myself listening to Slow It Down a decent amount. Not sure if that makes it 'better' or just more of a single.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:27 (3 months ago) Permalink

i mean obviously none of this compares to imperial phase Terius but after that it's Yamaha and Veteran and about half of Love King and then it's splitting hairs from there.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

big difference here is the production which...i dunno. i miss the detail work that we would get from tricky. the broad strokes are all pretty good still but it feels a bit shallower sometimes, is all.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:29 (3 months ago) Permalink

yeah i don't think it's particularly accurate to single deej out as the dream police, we all probably think of ourselves as the authority on his work tbh

― k3vin k., Saturday, February 16, 2013 11:20 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just mean he was ahead of the curve on Love/Hate and every since then when people talk about his new records he just kind of loudly sighs and stomps his feet

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:33 (3 months ago) Permalink

i just mean that al has some kind of passive aggressive hard on for me right now & could do to chill it out

everyone in this thread has ~passionate~ feelings abt dream records

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:41 (3 months ago) Permalink

i agree w/ most of that alex. also the dream police thing is cracking me up

chilli, Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:43 (3 months ago) Permalink

sorry sh1pley go hard had a hard on, don't mean to be a dick to you, king penis drake

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:53 (3 months ago) Permalink

...

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

u sound super b-hurt. i dunno what you think ive done to you but chill

rap steve gadd (D-40), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

i'm butthurt AND i have a hard on? man my social life is poppin

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

i.... kind of agree with deej on his opinion of this. it seems kinda weak.

Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:05 (3 months ago) Permalink

well now we just need contenderizer to weigh in

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

i kinda like the "them other n's had to do a dance record or the label wouldn't put em out" shots fired bit but yeah song is just mediocre. fab can sound really terrible when he tries to get away from that light ma$e style.

weed, tumblr whites and wein (some dude), Sunday, 17 February 2013 05:13 (3 months ago) Permalink

fab kinda a budget tip on this

schlump, Sunday, 17 February 2013 07:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

i basically unreservedly love this song now

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 February 2013 04:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

ha i was going to bump this thread to say that after a "my views on the subject are evolving" period i am officially into it, now. it's nice.

schlump, Saturday, 23 February 2013 05:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

k3vin k., Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

hehe

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:20 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol otm

r|t|c, Sunday, 24 February 2013 21:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

whats that from

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 25 February 2013 01:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

don't even know tbh

k3vin k., Monday, 25 February 2013 03:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

Postable in just about every ilm thread tbf

Harlem vs Alabama (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 25 February 2013 05:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

haha this is pretty fucking dope

https://soundcloud.com/the-dream/tron

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

has anyone ever invalidated their own troll-y single this quickly? lol this fucking guy

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

can i just

乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

lmao

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'm all for people using the greek alphabet instead of wingdings fonts

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

this is much better than anything else he's done recently but it's also basic as fuck and really is just a c version of "hit it on the road"

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

actually more like a d/e version

there's no real reason for this song to exist

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

"hit it on the road" is wack as fuck

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

and you like this?

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

yes! i mean it's not amazing, but very good song

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

oh my gawwwwwwd everyone tweeting about this

why can people not accept their favourite artist has lost it, ever

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

i mean really do we have to have this discussion again

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

j0rdan this is not a "very good song" in any fucking way and you are letting your terius standom delude you terribly

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (2 months ago) Permalink

*forecasts for 100 new answers by 5pm*

乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol when i have stumped for the-dream at any point in the last year

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

6/7/2011, imma drop that body work / fuck my brains out double single (TERIUS NASH aka THE-DREAM, LOVE IV: anticipation and adoration) [Started by the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend)

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

"let that 808 beat up on yo aaaassss" has more humour, hooks and compulsion to make me dance in one line alone than anything i heard in this

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

Tuesday, June 7, 2011 3:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

right i'm not gonna argue because i think terius is basically irrelevant at this point and doesn't actually deserve any more fucks than i have just given, or any further new answers, or any more "discussion" at the expense of people actually making decent music in 2013. out

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

you just freaked out today over an ex-sugababes remix of kendrick lamar's "swimming pools" for the record

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

you probably didn't bother listening to it

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

i did! it sounded like 3 people singing over the "swimming pools" beat. but people freaked out because the three people happened to belong to a once-beloved pop group.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

let only he who can undeniably rid himself of lingering stan impulses cast the first stone

J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:58 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol, i actually rolled my eyes when every uk music critic tweeted about that within seconds of it being uploaded. then i listened to it like 10 times in a row and realised it was properly good. i freaked out because of the amazing harmonies, mutya's voice in any context and hearing that beat with singing on it tbh

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 17:01 (2 months ago) Permalink

awesome revive

k3vin k., Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

haha wtf at this track. this is awesome and unexpected, lex sit the fuck down.

only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:16 (2 months ago) Permalink

from this very thread, can i just

jesus you people and your taste chess

lol @ the artwork

― all i see is angels in my eyes (lex pretend), Thursday, January 5, 2012 1:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

ha, i didn't mean to inclued "lol @ the artwork" but it's still fitting

only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

yes! i mean it's not amazing, but very good song

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 14 March 2013 16:44 (4 hours ago) Bookmark

r|t|c, Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:59 (2 months ago) Permalink

oh i see rev has also taken leave of his senses, out to him too

r|t|c, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

not feeling this at all. i've got to the point where he actively irritates me now.

tpp, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

yea im not w/ this. but 'slow it down' is now my jam

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

i liked 77 and still occasionally play tracks off that
this sounds like a somewhat autistic kid with an obsession with grocery bag punchlines got the opportunity to remix mercy in a big boy studio
"put it together by myself... VOLTRON"

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

it's kinda annoying that like 60% of his music is now about how everybody is copying his shit
can we go back to when 60% of his music was about how he couldn't get any respect plz

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

Awesome. Definitely.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 08:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

song sucks but j0rdan is totally right that lex doesn't get to crusade about that so self-righteously when he's the one that started this very thread

some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 11:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

that would be correct if i'd started this thread recently rather than TWENTY-ONE MONTHS AGO, in which time terius's loss of magic has been made unequivocally clear

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 11:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

late pass, he done been ass

some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 12:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

i mean i guess this thread wasn't that much longer after love king, which had its moments (while also being pretty disappointing), but body work / fuck my butt out was definitely confirmation for me that shit was over

some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 12:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

Blasphemy.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:01 (2 months ago) Permalink

i finally sat through 1977 when he re-released it recently, it was pretty rough

some dude, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:03 (2 months ago) Permalink

Beautiful album. Beautiful.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:06 (2 months ago) Permalink

it's kinda annoying that like 60% of his music is now about how everybody is copying his shit
can we go back to when 60% of his music was about how he couldn't get any respect plz

― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i finally sat through 1977 when he re-released it recently, it was pretty rough

― some dude, Friday, March 15, 2013 8:03 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my hopes of this guy doing anything memorable ever again under his own name are down to like 5% at this point guys

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

Love vs Money, How To Be A Lady, and Memoirs were just a delightful confluence of awesomeness and it's time to accept that that was an anomaly

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:13 (2 months ago) Permalink

Or we could just say that his awesomeness is never going to stop.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:29 (2 months ago) Permalink

awesomeness always stops, though. in like 99% of cases. even the most legendary genius. this is life, it doesn't invalidate their past work.

I was just thinking how incredible it was that this dude helmed LvM, HTABL and Memoirs IN ONE SINGLE YEAR - that's quite some fucking peak.

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 13:39 (2 months ago) Permalink

It does stop of course. I'm just semi-amazed at how keen you all seem to be on writing him off completely. We all know he's not dictating trends anymore but this "Terius is trash now" thing you've got going on makes no sense to me. I've loved every album he has released as a solo artist and every album by another artist that he has contributed majorly to, and I expect to love IV Play as well.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 13:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

how can you expect to love it when you haven't heard it?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 13:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

Because that's what expectations are about? Not having experienced something one imagines the experience in advance? Also, the sonic differences between Slow It Down and Tron have me intrigued. And I've liked or loved all the material he has leaked after 1977. Why shouldn't I expect to love it?

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

awesomeness always stops, though. in like 99% of cases. even the most legendary genius.

otm. This is an important thing to come to terms with. But I'm not ready to write Terius off completely, though. I've dropped any expectations, but he's still capable of making music I want to hear. And whenever he offers echoes of that old magic, it's still a pretty remarkable thing. His 2007-2009 run was so glorious that it's a pleasure just being reminded of it.

Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:17 (2 months ago) Permalink

I dunno. One thing is anticipation, the other is expecting to love it.
xpost

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 14:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

Well I'll be very disappointed if I don't.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

"fuck my brains out" is really dope tho

J0rdan S., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:04 (2 months ago) Permalink

longneck dont you just like everything tho

k3vin k., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

lol an "anomaly" wtf, why do i even bother

k3vin k., Friday, 15 March 2013 15:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

fuck my brains out IS really dope tho

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

i will rep for "fuck my brains out", and blame it for making me start this thread of disaster

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 15:57 (2 months ago) Permalink

Feel like a lot of you all are posting in absolutes. Artists don't have to be geniuses or trash, they can be inconsistent or somewhere in between.

Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

I'm also not completely sure that The-Dream's recent misfires are predicative of his future output. A lot of them I can write off as reactions to his tenuous commercial footing. It feels like the guy is still trying to suss out where he stands, so I'm comfortable withholding judgement until he figures out where he wants to go from here

Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

Feel like a lot of you all are posting in absolutes. Artists don't have to be geniuses or trash, they can be inconsistent or somewhere in between.

― Evan R, Friday, March 15, 2013 9:12 AM Bookmark

Thank you. This attitude here has been bugging the fuck out of me lately.

only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

Which is why I don't understand longneck's approach. I want the Pistol Annies album to be good but I won't "expect" to love it.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

i don't feel like anyone's posting in absolutes. terius has gone from an imperial phase where he made some of the best music around to becoming more inconsistent to putting out nothing but ideas-void trash for nearly two years. no one's saying "everything he puts out in the future will be terrible", we're observing that his period of greatness has come to an end, as per an almost universal pattern we've witnessed over and over again

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:33 (2 months ago) Permalink

i mean would people get excited about a new neptunes album now? or would everyone hum and haw and probably mock a lil bit because their time has passed?

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'd wait till i heard it and judge it on its merits
tho i'd make assumptions based on my prior experience
(i'm white btw)

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 March 2013 16:49 (2 months ago) Permalink

Neptunes is a fair-ish comparison, but I feel like 1. new music from The-Dream is still a rarer, more exciting commodity than new Neptunes music and 2. Neptunes have been off their game way longer than Terius, so there's more precedent for disappointment

Evan R, Friday, 15 March 2013 16:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

longneck dont you just like everything tho

― k3vin k., Friday, March 15, 2013 3:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hardly, lol. I just prefer to speak about the music I love.
But I do find it really weird that someone will insist that 1977, Body Work/FMBO, Love Slave, Pieces, Kill the Lights, 1+1 (Terius version), Slow It Down and Tron are "nothing but ideas-void trash" - those are some of my favorite records over the past two years. I mean, we could rate them and I wouldn't give every one of them a perfect ten, but given the opposition I'll risk speaking in absolutes just this once.

longneck, Friday, 15 March 2013 17:32 (2 months ago) Permalink

there ARE people who still worship everything new the Neptunes/NERD do. that's the real reason OFWGKTA are scary.

some dude, Saturday, 16 March 2013 00:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

I felt too embarrassed to post this but since this thread is veering towards scientific analysis of whether or not future dream jams will flourish, this song is apparently not on the lp. somebody asked him, he said it's just for soundcloud.

schlump, Saturday, 16 March 2013 00:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

there are some jams on this record but it seemed awfully long, i could hear it opening up but could also hear some tracks landing with a bit of a thud

the beyonce feature is really fantastic tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

he kept talking up jodeci and timbaland and how it's an album heavily influenced by 90s R&B

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

i told him that there are people out there that really love the electrik red album and he literally sighed and said "the good ole days..."

also said that he wrote 9 of those songs in one day

and that every time he sees solange she talks about that album

J0rdan S., Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

also said that he wrote 9 of those songs in one day

fuckkkkkkk that's up there with god creating heaven and earth on the first day of creation

prolego, Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

and solange saw that it was good.

r|t|c, Thursday, 4 April 2013 23:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

he literally sighed and said "the good ole days..."

even terius knows

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 5 April 2013 08:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

look on my works ye mighty

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 13:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

and fuck my brains out *synths start playing*

乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

maybe ter/iu/s 2.0 meant the good ole days when he could scoop up pawgs without being challenged to street races all the time

r|t|c, Friday, 5 April 2013 13:59 (1 month ago) Permalink

lmao what a bizarre video

still a dope song imo *shrugs*

k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

*low-5 for ter/i/us 2.0*

k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

also said that he wrote 9 of those songs in one day

I hope one of these is 'P Is For Power' because the image of Terius just sitting down with a blank piece of paper and writing the word 'PUSSY' in big letters down the side is just too funny.

Matt DC, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

in flawless calligraphy

the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Friday, 5 April 2013 14:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

the physical deluxe edition of the album folds up into a pyramid

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

he said he's started "packaging wars" with beyonce and jay-z and the like

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 14:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

lmao matt

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh cool when did terius sign to mo'wax

r|t|c, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 5 April 2013 16:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

What happens with all the songs that were supposed to go on the double though?

longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 16:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

i think the album has like 15 songs on it, it's pretty long

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 16:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm usually happy with 12. It was supposed to have 30 though.

longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

pretty glad this album doesn't have 30 songs

schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 20:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

tbh i have no real expectations for a new terry album, so i'd actually prefer a longer record where he just dumps out everything he's working on so i can pick and choose my own favorites

k3vin k., Friday, 5 April 2013 20:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

you guys don't want to hear a double-disc version of this album, i promise

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 21:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

ha ha
ty for your rundown jordan. i am still really psyched for this, sad there is no kells on it though.

do you have any ontological observations about the real life dream. i just read a review of the listening session that made dream & timbaland sound like the odd couple.

schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 21:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

yeah i was not at the one where tim showed up

he opened up a little bit towards the end of ours but it was just a few of us so it was pretty subdued. he's funny though.

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 21:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

What's your main objection to the songs you didn't immediately like, j0rdan?

longneck, Friday, 5 April 2013 22:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

on some it sounded like he was fighting the songs. like the one with kelly rowland gets really loud for the chorus in an awkward/unorganic way. there was another one like that too.

also on some the songwriting was just kinda weak

but these things are not a great way to evaluate music!

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 April 2013 23:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

you just sat down and listened to the album start to finish with him and some critics?

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

he drives you around in his car & you both plug in headsets to the kind of walkmans that have two headphone outs

schlump, Friday, 5 April 2013 23:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

and then you have sex?

I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 April 2013 23:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

the drummer for gay Daddy Yankee (some dude), Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

they requested "no swap meet" questions for the interview

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

you just sat down and listened to the album start to finish with him and some critics?

― I offer about as much diversity as a saltine cracker. (forksclovetofu), Friday, April 5, 2013 7:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

the album isn't ordered yet, the transitions haven't been put in & there are some guest vocals still to be mixed (so we didn't hear them)

J0rdan S., Saturday, 6 April 2013 00:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yes.

longneck, Monday, 8 April 2013 21:56 (1 month ago) Permalink

this is a proper banger

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 21:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

j0rdan STOP USING THE WORD "BANGER" TO DESCRIBE SONGS THAT ARE NOT UPTEMPO

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

i feel like this bangs

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 22:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

properly

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 22:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

jordan STOP USING "PROPER" LIKE YOU ARE A BRITISH PERSON

k3vin k., Monday, 8 April 2013 22:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

i'm reserving full judgment til i hear how it plays out over the course of an album proper

but this is like one of those midtempo slinkers like sex intelligent or she needs my love that have never been among my favorite terius songs, but have never been among my least favorite terius songs either

乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

kevin he is not saying this song is a sausage

schlump, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

sad lol btw ;_;

乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

is lex living in the same post-"One in a Million" world as the rest of us?

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

"one in a million" is not a banger

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's like calling "crazy in love" a ballad, it's just blatantly the wrong word

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:23 (1 month ago) Permalink

whoa now

乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

oh nm i misread you, i thought you were saying crazy in love was NOT a sausage

乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 22:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

A big part of "One in a Million"'s innovation was that it was a ballad that was also a club song.

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

"I think when "If Your Girl Only Knew" first came out, people kinda said, Oh, she got a new sound. But then when "One in a Million" came out, the beat and the melody were so different from anything. I was in a club one night, the DJ took it back TEN TIMES, no lie. And this was in the middle of him playing, like, Biggie records and Tupac records, and here goes "One in a Million" in the middle of all this street rap! That's when I said, OK, this is something different--we are going somewhere else, we are kind of switching the sound. "

--Missy

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

i had literally no idea that "one in a million" was a game changer, why not continue explaining it to me rev

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:46 (1 month ago) Permalink

i know you know that, my point is just that they haven't been exclusive categories at any time since

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

i know that as well, my point was that using "banger" as synonymous with "good song" is just a failure of vocabulary that renders the word meaningless

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 23:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

I haven't heard the song in question yet so no specific comment there but if it goes off in the club it qualifies as a banger to me

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 23:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

WOW this is good

k3vin k., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:19 (1 month ago) Permalink

i know that as well, my point was that using "banger" as synonymous with "good song" is just a failure of vocabulary that renders the word meaningless

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, April 8, 2013 7:11 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i do use these simultaneously from time to time but this song sounds like a "banger" to me even if it's nto up tempo... it's pretty loud, for instance

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 01:29 (1 month ago) Permalink

"IV play" feels like vintage terius to me in that it has like four diff hooks, the funny thing is that the main chorus is by far the least memorable of them all

J0rdan S., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's so hilarious to me that he wrote a song about 12 Play and then flipped the title to reduce the cleverness of it

easily the best (or least underwhelming?) of all his recent songs though imo

some dude, Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:17 (1 month ago) Permalink

the verses very 'memoirs'-era imo

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

it's good but i prefer the nu-FILA "slow it down" to it, to me that's more what dream's all about

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

i still think the songwriting on that is pretty weak, but yeah this is a pretty overt stylistic exercise

J0rdan S., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:26 (1 month ago) Permalink

ima keep it real witchu baby you bayyyyad

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 April 2013 03:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:55 (1 week ago) Permalink

sexy

deeznuggz (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 6 May 2013 16:57 (1 week ago) Permalink

When is this album finally supposed to drop?

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 May 2013 17:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

i love this sorta ... ambient dream

it's comin may 28, or hasn't been delayed yet. he is still fuckin w/the tracklist though. the beyonce track j0rd was into isn't on there because of clearance issues so there's another w/her & 2chainz. this record ^^^ is from august alsinas' mixtape.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

this is good, off some random mixtape tho

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

the beyonce track j0rd was into isn't on there because of clearance issues so there's another w/her & 2chainz.

WAIT REALLY

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

fuck

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

how does that happen in this day and age?

Number None, Monday, 6 May 2013 17:07 (1 week ago) Permalink

damn that song was really fucking good

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 May 2013 17:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

yeah i am bummed & i did not even taste that sweet fruit

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 6 May 2013 17:09 (1 week ago) Permalink

best dream song since anything off love king

乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

half-joking but ~SYNTH HORNS~

乒乓, Tuesday, 7 May 2013 16:58 (1 week ago) Permalink

this is good, off some random mixtape tho

― J0rdan S., Monday, May 6, 2013 6:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The August Alsina tape is hardly "random."

longneck, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 07:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

outro is kinda nice rest of the song is kinda tuneless tho

J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:53 (1 week ago) Permalink

yup

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 20:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

Tags: The-Ream The Dream Jay-Z Killarecords Radio Killa Records D Defjamrecords Defjamrecordings Def Jam Recordings

r|t|c, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

Dreamer's been releasing a lot of music that perks my ears lately, but for as good as all of these songs sound, not one of them has been anywhere near classic. It's really frustrating; it feels like his gift is still there, but he just can't close the deal anymore.

Evan R, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:13 (1 week ago) Permalink

that's not a pattern that genius producers have historically fallen into at all!

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

this is actually the first song off this project i can half-imagine willingly listening to again! certainly the most immediate

oh gawwwwwd jay-z is terrrrible though why is he mimicking kanye's HUHHHH

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

i KNEW before the outro even happened that it'd be a soft and billowy and nothingy affair purely based on j0rdan liking it, lol

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

i can actually remember this one after it ended! it's a bit like a third-tier "hit it on the road"

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

A non-event. No crisis though. But 4Play sounds classic after it.

longneck, Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

i KNEW before the outro even happened that it'd be a soft and billowy and nothingy affair purely based on j0rdan liking it, lol

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:23 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark

heh

J0rdan S., Thursday, 9 May 2013 21:45 (1 week ago) Permalink

yea iv play def stands out as the best song hes put out in yrs

johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:07 (1 week ago) Permalink

^strong statement!

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Friday, 10 May 2013 02:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

oh gawwwwwd jay-z is terrrrible though why is he mimicking kanye's HUHHHH

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 May 2013 22:20 (Yesterday) Bookmark

i am choosing to hear oh gawwwwwd as per big sean in this post fyi

r|t|c, Friday, 10 May 2013 02:33 (1 week ago) Permalink

this is sorta garbage but I like it

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:19 (6 days ago) Permalink

dream singing jay's lines sounds real nice

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:20 (6 days ago) Permalink

also is this album a song cycle about white girls, y/n

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Monday, 13 May 2013 00:27 (6 days ago) Permalink

both sound p good imo

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:52 (5 days ago) Permalink

enh

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:59 (5 days ago) Permalink

pre-order for deluxe edition up on iTunes now. Tracklist:
1. High Art (Feat. Jay-Z)
2. IV Play
3. Equestrain
4. Pussy (Feat. Big Sean & Pusha T)
5. Turnt (Feat. Beyonce & 2 Chainz)
6. Where Have You Been (Feat. Kelly Rowland)
7. Too Early (Feat. Gary Clark Jr.)
8. Michael
9. Loving You/Crazy
10. New Orleans
11. Self-Conscious
12. Holy Love
13. Outro
14. Slow It Down (Feat. Fabolous)
15. Divine
16. Y’All
17. Tron
18. Psycho

mingalaba, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:12 (4 days ago) Permalink

ok, what
3. Equestrain

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:14 (4 days ago) Permalink

earnestly looking fwd to

y'all!y'all!y'all!y'all!y'all!

― carpathian florist (roxymuzak), Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:29 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:16 (4 days ago) Permalink

What singles are available now, and what's worth buying?

Don't say "High Art"

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:17 (4 days ago) Permalink

Did he really need a song named "Pussy"?

Beatrix Kiddo (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:18 (4 days ago) Permalink

3. Equestrain
4. Pussy (Feat. Big Sean & Pusha T)

read this as "Pussytrain" at first

looool @ "Tron" being on the album

society is a lol, it makes me j/k to my friends (some dude), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:32 (4 days ago) Permalink

everything below "outro" i'm thinkin is an itunes deluxe edition track

drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:34 (4 days ago) Permalink

there are samples on itunes, it sounds p bad :/

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:35 (4 days ago) Permalink

too early sample sounds nice

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:43 (4 days ago) Permalink

haven't listened to samples yet but have not dug anything off this except "slow it down" (a nice throwback to los' cotton-candy) and "IV play" (terius indulging in maximalism)...

drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:45 (4 days ago) Permalink

^like this guy

'scuse me while i make the sky cum (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:47 (4 days ago) Permalink

lots of these snippets are v v promising imo, schlumps a h8r

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:49 (4 days ago) Permalink

lol 'outro' is basically a weeknd diss

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:54 (4 days ago) Permalink

rly hopin theres a sweet transition in "lovin you / crazy"

drew holidaze (livethedream), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 00:56 (4 days ago) Permalink

ha I am really not a hater, i am an opteriusist, it's just everything sounds post-l.o.s thin, autotuned to the point of obscuring t's voice & just sorta weirdly aimless/slight/slightly misguided like high art so far imo. I am still googling DREAM THE-DREAM FOURPLAY VINYL everyday I am just sorta suspecting/accepting that this is not the lush love king sequel I am desiring. I have spent a long while recently bugged by the easy, consequence free cynicism of low pop culture expectations ('oh this is going to be a trainwreck') so I seriously have no pleasure hating on it, just I listened through today & it all sounded p blank.

daft on the causes of punk (schlump), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 01:57 (4 days ago) Permalink

yeah, totally agree with schlump. snippets sound p dire

Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 03:37 (4 days ago) Permalink

sorry equesTRAIN might've been a typo...

i am a bit worried that the Beyonce and Kelly Rowland features will be nowhere as good as the tracks that Terius has done for each of their upcoming albums... or i guess i shouldn't be worried, and come to terms with the fact that since Love King i've more often enjoyed his productions for other artists than the stuff he does for himself...

mingalaba, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 04:12 (4 days ago) Permalink

Finishing up my first listen of this, and it sounds really good. Nice rebound from 1977. Nothing as grand and grabbing as his first two records, of course, but he's testing enough new ideas that it doesn't feel like a lesser redux of them, either—I'm struck but how many of these tracks don't song immediately identifiable as Dream songs.

Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:15 (4 days ago) Permalink

You have the album?

longneck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:18 (4 days ago) Permalink

A stream, yeah

Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:21 (4 days ago) Permalink

ohhhhhhhhh - just glad to know it exists at this point

longneck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:23 (4 days ago) Permalink

Ha, I have a system I use for gauging whether rap/R&B albums are real when I pitch reviews or plan coverage. It's a scale, beginning with "hmmm, this might not really exist" and ending with "huh, I'll be damned":

Release date
Cover art
Tracklist announcement
Snippets
Leak

Evan R, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 19:33 (4 days ago) Permalink

lol

society is a lol, it makes me j/k to my friends (some dude), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 20:27 (4 days ago) Permalink

So I don't know if it was lowered expectations or what, but I'm liking this a lot. I'm enjoying the guests, the energy, the pacing, all of it really.

Evan R, Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:13 (3 days ago) Permalink

Is this at least on par with Love King? I'll be happy if it is.

The Reverend, Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:04 (3 days ago) Permalink

Yes and no. It doesn't hit woozy highs like Love King, but I don't think it misfires as badly, or repeats itself as much. I'd much rather listen to this than Love King right now.

Evan R, Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:18 (3 days ago) Permalink

i wasn't a huge fan of Love King but i'd be pretty shocked if this had anything as good as "Yamaha" or "F.I.L.A."

trick paddy pollars (some dude), Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:42 (3 days ago) Permalink

I'd be surprised if any lyric is as good as "so she let me do her"

P is for Poo Poo Doo Doo (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 16 May 2013 22:52 (3 days ago) Permalink


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