this is great! listened to previous album at the time and it left no impression, maybe i was too hasty
'r&b concrète' is the sort of self decription that usually entices and then disappoints but it's quite fitting in this case
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 03:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
this fuckin BURIES the competition
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
post linx
― acoleuthic, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
there's a mediafire link on the second page of results, idk
and
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141569-lost-10-of-2010-1--actress-splazsh
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
"r&b concrète" is not an 'enticing' description lmao
― zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
self description
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
kinda is
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
ilx is full of ppl having their grand claims for their music dismissed, just this once u gotta allow it's kinda apt
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
it could be apt
― zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
zvookster, runoff
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
Been listening to this for the last ten days or so... there are a few songs ("Lost" especially) that stood out right away. The rest I've been warming up to.
Wire named this their #1 album of the year, btw.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i'm guessing a few respondents itt will have seen it there
not an egregiously 'wire'ish album tho, i can imagine ppl who have never heard of luc ferrari enjoying it
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
excellent album, though not quite one of my very favorites of the year. i've been playing it for a month or two, and enjoy it while it's on, but find that it leaves little impression after the fact. i wonder if this is perhaps due to the fact that it inhabits a genre i spend little time with (i have never heard of luc ferrari, ftr), so i'm less able to identify its most distinctive traits? anyway, i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
don't wanna sound like a hater, but it's ok. I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking -- it kinda straddles the middle ground between that sound, and the abstract side of US deep house like DJ Qu and M. Pittman, w/ a bit of Chillwave enabled haze thrown in. but beyond the admittedly quite cool sound design the compositions seem to me a bit generic at times, I don't get how it "BURIES the competition". i do like the track "Hubble" a lot
he's a good dj btw, plays loads of Flyte Tyme and New Jack Swing and 90s house and stuff
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
a lot of the writing about this album concentrates on this "r&b concrete" angle as if "disembodied vocal samples" are somehow this new groundbreaking technique of modern electronic music production, when in actuality it is about the most cliched. hasn't Todd Edwards been "disembodying" rnb vocals since like, 1994?
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
u do sound like a h8r and not a very interesting one
have heard first two of those and it's not a close relaish
i wouldn't make claims for splazsh being hugely innovative
u misunderstood a ref to another hyped south london producah who might get called 'r&b concrete' ;_;
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
how many tracks on this have "disembodied vocal samples" and how do u discern between those and common or garden vocal samples
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
no need to get defensive, though if it helps boost your ILX status by all means. next step "sock master" amirite?
if anything i'm just trying to work out why this leaves me cold when I love so much of the stuff it cribs from. I guess you missed the part where I praised the sound design and mentioned that I like the track "Hubble" a lot, while touching on his excellent dj skills?
and if you can't hear Hieroglpyhic Being in something like say "Bubble Buts And Equations" then I don't believe you've heard Hieroglyphic Being
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
havent we already had this convo about james blake, or is this diff somehow
― lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
missing u know yr shit and have good taste but 'I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking' is the sort of pass/agg trainspotter drivel that's not rly conducive to good ilx
u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
idk about james blake, don't rly care/rate/etc him
there's some talk of actress in one of the rolling dance threads btw, moonship digs it iirc
― zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
no whiney weingarteno on this comment but really feel like most ppl that find this treatment of r&b interesting don't actually dig real r&b
this stuff is still pretty aight tho
― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
don't rly care about r&b beyond the big singles yuh
i like music concrete tho
of course it doesn't sound a lot like the former, and the schematic owes little to the latter but yknow it kinda works as shorthand for what he's doing
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
not sure i get the (any) connection to musique concrete. it sounds like pleasantly spacey/funky idm to me. connect the dots?
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
"u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '"
ok well my point still stands, if you can't hear the influence Steve Poindexter's label, Muzique Records, has had on Actress's album Splazsh then etcetc
sorry if it's "pas/agg trainspotter drivel" to actually know my shit about the subject at hand, but when you say something like "this fuckin BURIES the competition" you shouldn't be surprised that somebody else might say, well actually, there's other stuff out there that already sounds like this and does it better
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
god yr slow
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
god yr butthurt?
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
i didn't come here to argue dude, I'll leave your thread be *waves*
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
tsccchhhh
entrylevs
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
oh ok, Burial reference, excellent. bravo old chap
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
still, I'm not so slow as to realize that "rnb concrete" is fucking lame
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah its kinda a lame thread title trinket to get the spesh addled vagrants like yrself thru the door, all counts towards the admission stats tho
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
my sympathies, nakhchivan, for post-launch events itt
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
ikr
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
missing no just needs to chill a lil, i don't wanna scare off ppl who know more about techno than me
yeah apols for missing your pun. keep the ad homs coming though, you'll be reposted in zing thread in no time
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.
It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.
And I'm a big Hieroglyphic Being fan and don't feel that Actress is at all a bad comparison.
With Jamal its huge amounts material to dig through, with Actress: 2 minute long tracks.
Maybe the argument should be between brevity and long-windedness?
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
hmmm i don't really dig jamal moss very much and i don't think it's a great comparison unless you fixate on certain aspects of actress and the much better end of jamal moss.
the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least. love love love the pleasantly spacy/funky IDM parts ("hubble", "bubble butts", "the kettle men"). i loathe the todd edwards influenced parts.
it didn't make my top 10, but it would've made #11 and if i made a list just on amount of time spent listening this would've been in the top 10.
i have hazyville but haven't really given it a listen ... what about his nonplus release? that was sick.
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^ sounds more like urban tribe to me than burial or todd e
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
srsly off topic but jamal moss is 75% wack
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
:)
if i did, i would
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.
This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.
Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.
Hazyville included, some great shit on there.
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff
the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction
basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
his edit of this on Thriller is cool
― missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least.
OTM ... if there was $$$ to be made from making techno tributes to Prince then everyone would have been doing it years ago.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
re: hazyville, i like the hardcore references in "again the addiction"
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 02:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
and on "crushed", too!
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
this album is so good & not really r&b at all and i don't think people who don't really like r&b would ever mistake this with r&b. feel like the sounds on it are very tube-ey, i visualize a lot of the lines as orange neon lights, something really linear (yet obviously very contorted) about it. way better than james blake although i didn't get the bfd w/ that thread but i also don't know anything about dance music. i've listened to this album on drugs a lot
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
moonship what's your top 10
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
my top 10 favorite albums this year
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
moonship what are your top 10 favourite albums this year
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 03:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
top 10 albums
demdike stare - liberation through hearingmartyn - fabric 50ben klock - berghain 04emeralds - does it look like I'm here?dBridge & instra:mental - fabriclive 50flying lotus - cosmogrammashackleton - fabric 55shed - the travellermadlib - medicine show volume 3anthony shakir - frictionalism
top 10 singles
martyn - is this insanity (remixes)mmm - nous sommes mmmwax - 30003eqd - 04locussolus - gunship
and other than that it was all from 2009: 2562, martyn, peverelist, zomby, the rest of that crew, wax and eqd sides by shed, scion versions, levon vincent, t++, dettmann and klock, function stuff on sandwell, milton bradley, frozen border, etc etc it all sounded as relevant or more this year as it did last year, and generally much more than what i read about in a lot of other dance music year-end lists :-(
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
your top 10 is lookin more like a top 5
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
& thanks
actually i forgot some off of my top 10 list
2562 - demons2562 - rear windowrustie - sunburstjoker - tron
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
what's your top 10, flopson?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
no dance stuff or anything, and i have difficulty with albums so ten is kind of a stretch but i pretty much love all these
waka flocka flame - flockavellie-40 - revenue retrievinearl sweatshirt - earlgucci mane - mr zone 6/jewelry selectionnht boyz - power triangle
purling hiss - hissteriapc worship - s/t lp and 7" on shdwplypig - magneticsex church - 6 songs by sex churchdrunkdriver - s/t
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
this demdike stare is awesome
― flopson, Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
this didn't leave any impression on me the first couple of times i listened to it. i've been assured that it's a grower, tho not sure i care enough to find this out for myself. it's assuredly better than james blake tho.
― lex diamonds (lex pretend), Thursday, 30 December 2010 09:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
missingNO: your mentioning of the "slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming [&] wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks" brings to mind how psyched I was to have learned about Terrence Dixon back in late '08 through Cunningham himself referring to him (along w/ a bunch of other better-known Detroiters, whose approaches I don't hear quite as strongly in Actress' work) as an influence on the 1-sheet blurb for "Hazyville".
Most of the T. Dixon/Population One stuff released on Metroplex and elsewhere that I've heard (from the mid-'90s to recent) has rhythmically really reminded me of Actress, in terms of the funky misalignments, etc.
(Anybody here into Downliners Sekt? A similar-enough aesthetic to warrant asking...)http://boomkat.com/downloads/317164-downliners-sekt-hello-lonely-hold-the-nationhttp://boomkat.com/downloads/367254-downliners-sekt-we-make-hits-not-the-public
― Don't Make Me A Burrito (Craig D.), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Good to see Moonship's list there.
― puff pastry hangman (admrl), Friday, 31 December 2010 19:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
what's better
this - FWIW also **BUBBLING** just just outside the top 10, possibly nudging out dbridge or shackleton, FWIW also r&b concréte
or this - is this r&b concréte
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
downliners sekt have the right sound but the beats are chopped up a little OTT for my taste.
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 31 December 2010 23:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
actress' 2010 top ten features steve poindexter @ #1http://www.boomkat.com/charts.cfm?id=576&gID=11
― sisilafami, Sunday, 2 January 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Listening to this now. Not sure I get it - any of it. Tracks have been popping up on random for a while now and they've just sounded like awkward repeating patterns with little structure or development. So I've decided to listen to it as a whole. Don't hear any r'n'b whatsoever. I guess I will have to give it a couple of goes.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
what's there to get? it's house music, man. we're hardly talking fucking xenakis here
― missingNO, Thursday, 17 February 2011 02:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
I would call Actress neither house music nor easy to get to be honest.
― EDB, Thursday, 17 February 2011 03:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i dont really get it either, i thought it would be a grower...
― just sayin, Thursday, 17 February 2011 09:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
It doesn't really become house music until at least the fourth track, and even then it's pretty abstract. Some tracks, that Bubble Butts one in particular, is just plain annoying. Again, I'll def give it another shot, because I've a feeling it's the kind of thing that clicks once heard in context and from then on you can't do without.
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (1 month ago)
THIS, massively. Had forgotten how good 'Maze' is until putting it on again at the weekend.
I see he's on a bill with Demdike Stare and others in Bristol soon, that's hella tempting if I had any money at all.
― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
I've been slowly getting into the Splazsh album. Works well on headphones.
― sam500, Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hazyville is good too, if a lot less evolved.
― seminal fuiud (NickB), Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I heard and liked 'Hazyville' - relatively passively - when it came out, 'Splazsh' was a big evolution though. And it does keep rewarding. Both a grower and with some moments of great immediacy.
― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 17 February 2011 11:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm gonna go to that Bristol show on Saturday I think
― Jari Litmandem (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 17 February 2011 12:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like that he uses bits of cut up youtube vids or w/e, presumably just the audio but if u play mpeg videos in winamp 2.xx u get some chill ass noise so who knows
― nulty dread (nakhchivan), Thursday, 17 February 2011 12:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is awful.
― gr8080, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
people don't know how to troll anymore
― ☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
whither phil paterson
― ☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
this album is kind of infuriating but a few times listening to it it was the best, i don't know if i would recommend repeatedly trying it too many times -- try drugs maybe?
― flopson, Friday, 18 February 2011 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i was gonna say, were u hi?
― ☠ (roxymuzak), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
i hadn't even heard the album when i made this thread, just the first two or three tracks
i don't like it as much as i did over xmas, but this and his recent singles are p good
― roy stride or die (nakhchivan), Friday, 18 February 2011 00:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
I really like this
― corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
New 12" is excellent too
― the worst dong of the last ten years (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 21 March 2011 12:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
I dunno if the musique concrète comparisons are apt — it just seems like soulful house-influenced electronic with a fastidious approach to sounds. wonder what kind of soft/hardware he used
― corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
also thankful this doesn't have that annoying cod 90s R&B filtered-synth squiggle that you hear on like everything that gets called dubstep or post-ds
― corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 12:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
tho thankfully this isn't dubstep or post-dubstep
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 March 2011 19:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
― sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (2 months ago)
this, p much
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 March 2011 19:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hubble has a very strange effect on my brain if I listen to it all the way through. It puts me in a sinister dreamlike trance that I can't quite describe, but have rarely experienced in music
― farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Monday, 21 March 2011 19:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Bubble Butts and Equations has been sticking in my head this week.
― mh, Monday, 21 March 2011 20:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
I didn't say it was!
― corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
and i didn't say you said it was!
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 March 2011 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
i've stopped playing this so much but it definitely caught me for a while
i find a lot of his tracks fastidious....in a good way! they are uhm 'well architected'
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Monday, 21 March 2011 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
was surprised my friend who's an autechre fiend thought this was "meh", it seems to me like Ae fans would appresh this
― corey, Monday, 21 March 2011 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like this stuff a lot
― adult music person (Jordan), Monday, 21 March 2011 22:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
someone post your favorite one or two things of his that are on youtube cause i listened to this last year and thought it was awful but am willing to re-asses
― gr8080, Monday, 21 March 2011 22:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
dont know too much about your taste & there is a p wide range of stuff on the album ito danceability, experimentalness, minimalism. i like these tho
― flopson, Monday, 21 March 2011 22:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
I liked that last one better than the other two but this shit just isn't for me I guess.
I like his logo/cover art tho!
― gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 06:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
― farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Monday, March 21, 2011 2:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it makes me sleepy
― adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
MAZE is what i wished the TR2N soundtrack sounded like
― diamonddave85, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
senorita has become my ipod rep from this album. so simple, but kind of addictive (and actually pretty!)
― Dominique, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
Jordan - yeah sleepy, but I think it once made me have an inverse parasomniac moment where I kinda fell asleep while walking around with headphones and started tripping out. It was heavy man.
― farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
the b side of the new single is great
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 15:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Senorita contains an Aaliyah sample, right? Hubble is one of those songs that I can listen to on repeat for 2 hours. Shigeto's album Full Circle is a good companion to Splazsh. He also plays live drums in his sets which took me by surprise (Shigeto, not Actress).
― Call on me (Spinspin Sugah), Saturday, 26 March 2011 21:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
If you love Actress like me then check out "Plastic World" by BNJMN on Rush Hour. It's like a lush, less austere Splazsh. http://phs.abstractdynamics.org/2011/03/two_albums_morphosis_bnjmn.html
― Professor Respect, Sunday, 27 March 2011 18:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
― The Geirogeirgegege (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
Agreed on the BNJMN comparison. In some ways they're very different; BNJMN has a much housier feel, closer to FaltyDL maybe, and definitely a good fit for Rush Hour. But the textural quality of their sound and their approach to compression definitely share some similarities.
Also, Andy Stott's forthcoming 2x12 on Modern Love has a very Actressy vibe, maybe crossed with Dettinger... Amazing stuff.
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is as good as anything's he's done
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1ky4su
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 July 2011 11:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
some of this sounds cool on an actress tip
http://soundcloud.com/lukid/preview-of-spitting-bile-ep
― back in a .gif ;) (flopson), Saturday, 13 August 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sounds good--nice turning-the dial/soundbite preview segues. I recall Lukid's "Boxing Club" 12" from last year sounding particularly great, too.
As far as Actress + Lukid = Thriller goes, I'm enjoying their brand-new Radiohead remix (v. similar to Actress' "Surfer's Hymn" Panda Bear remix from earlier this year):
http://soundcloud.com/radiohead/radiohead-give-up-the-ghost
― Went whole career w/o collabo, yo (Craig D.), Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
much prefer actress to lukid
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 18:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
I fell for the thread title bait, but there's nothing even remotely concrete about any of the tracks I listened to???
― the wheelie king (wk), Saturday, 13 August 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
explain
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
not saying this is my favourite titled thread but it has been painstakingly elaborated on upthread
― back in a .gif ;) (flopson), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
it just sounds like synthesizers and drum machines. I didn't hear any "real" sounds or noises integrated into the work in any way. He might be sampling youtube videos or something, but the end result isn't any more "concrète" than any other music that has been made using a sampler since 1980.xp
― the wheelie king (wk), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
it has been painstakingly elaborated on upthread
not really. people were like "oh he samples stuff from youtube. ok, concrète. cool"
― the wheelie king (wk), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
so you would say that a requirement for music concrete is the use of environmental sound?
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
the last single harrier attk and some of the tracks released on twitter are the most 'sonically adventurous' things he has done
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, I don't want to make any requirements or dredge up an obsolete 60-year-old debate on musique concrete vs. electronic music. I just don't hear anything in this music that makes me think "concrete" in any way. Every track seems to contain synthesizers. Now maybe those are actually samples of motors or something pitch-shifted and layered to sound like synth pads, but if the end result just sounds like plain-ol electronic music, I don't really see the point in labeling it "concrete."
xp
― the wheelie king (wk), Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (7 months ago)
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
not saying u are a vagrant, obviously
― nakhchivan, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
well ithink a quick skim of the article on wikipedia will clear it up for you wk
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
it strikes me that you have a very narrow view of what is musique concrete that doesn't even hew to what even Pierre Schafer described as the basis of musique concrete
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
don't take it the wrong way, nothing personal, you just don't understand what musique concrete is and you have obviously not read and understood the thread
Thank you, come again
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe you should learn a little more about musique concrete than what you're getting from a quick skim of wikipedia
― the wheelie king (wk), Saturday, 13 August 2011 22:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
well you might be interested to know that I have recently reread not one, not two, but THREE whole books about it
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 13 August 2011 23:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
ugh plz somebody delete my posts in this thread fucking embarrassing shit ugh
― missingNO, Monday, 15 August 2011 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i read in an interview that this dude was working as a foley artists before he made it in the techno game
― missingNO, Monday, 15 August 2011 04:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
and he records shit on a minidisc cuz of the low sample rate
― missingNO, Monday, 15 August 2011 04:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Very late to this party as is my style, but a few thoughts after an initial 5-6 spins:
> "Hubble" is amazing, and quite unlike anything else I've heard. I can't remember if I read this somewhere or dreamt it (hopefully the latter), but I want to say that Actress called it "a study of 'Erotic City'"...
> The cut-up vocal tracks make me queasy, and it's a similar queasiness to seeing an unhealthily skinny girl walking really fast.
> I wish the album had more BASS throughout it; it sounds emaciated in parts, as if it had been gutted of bass rather than just built without bass as a foundation. This probably relates to my queasiness above.
> I do understand very much why so many people call this a grower and have given it many listens trying to "get it"... It's an almost painfully drawn-in-on-itself sounding record, a decisive statement of a very esoteric aesthetic; it almost feels as if its creator is autistic. I'm not sure if there's anything to "get," though, but I'm also not sure that matters.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haha, I love this post, Clarke. Bit more Actress banter here: FACT's 20 albums for 2011 including the whole thing about Erotic City.
― Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Andy Stott's recent album Passed Me By is operating in a similar vein, but with BASS
― Number None, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like that Stott record; it's really solid. I think it's perhaps getting a little over-hyped in certain circles, but I enjoy it a lot. There's in immersiveness to it, however, that puts it in an entirely different ballpark than Actress for me. (Maybe that "immseriveness" is just bass!) Also, Actress's beats are sometimes skittery in a way Stott's aren't--not like drill-and-bass "wheeeee drum programming!" skittery, and not "purposefully degraded" skittery (like Burial's can feel... It's like a five-espressos skittery, as if he's playing his drum machines live (not quantized) but he can't stop shaking and twitching.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 27 September 2011 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dunno if there's a better thread for this sort of thing, so I'll just park this post here for the moment: the new Patten album GLAQJO XAACSSO is really fucking good. Similar kind of knee-capped beats to Actress and it's also seemingly been built out of all these odd off-cut samples that he's possibly fished out of the scraps bin. Where it is different is that it feels a whole lot lusher and denser. In some places it's kind of reminiscent of Disco Inferno in that you feel like you're trying to deal with this whole rush of sonic information all at once, you need to really stretch your ears wide-open to fit all of the sounds in. Well worth hearing imo.
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2011 12:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 3 October 2011 12:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
plenty of good Actress this year > Lauren Halo remix, Panda Bear remix, Harrier ATTK / Gershwin, Parallel World. There is also a Honest Jons ad for an Actress meets Shangaan electro thing.
― wolves lacan, Monday, 3 October 2011 13:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Adultswim interview with Actress that recently got posted is worth watching--I don't think he's ever really been interview on camera before, has he?http://video.adultswim.com/unclassified/actress-interview.html
― Spectrum Spools presents: Blogosfear (Craig D.), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah there's this one...
It's not as good as the adult swim one though.
Looking forward to his new album, whenever that's coming out.
― jimitheexploder, Monday, 3 October 2011 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
i dig that patten track
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Monday, 3 October 2011 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
He did a remix of Kasabian. It's kinda good!&
― Number None, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Patten's album was mentioned upthread. I listened to it all the way through and thought it was pretty useless, but what did you guyses think?
― Alexandre Dumbass (dog latin), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
agreed
― the late great, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
just too left-footed for me to get down with, though i felt the same way about the entire genre of dubstep at first and now i'm a convert
― the late great, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
before i check out the Kasabian remix i need to know if there's any Kasabian in it
― Nultified Ancients of Man U (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 23:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
whoa, there is a new full-length?
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
RIP Actress
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Getting lots of good reviews so far btw
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
blah, not on Spotify or whatever yet
― mh, Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
And it's really lovely, he's given in to his pretty side.
― Jedmond, Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
psyched for the set tonight for unsound
― life's rich pageant then you die (uptown churl), Friday, 20 April 2012 01:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
RIPrest in peacefassy get the coffinthen dem get the wreath
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
(no homophobe)
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 01:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
excellent album
― diamonddave85, Friday, 20 April 2012 03:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
like
― Dominique, Friday, 20 April 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, that is good but that whole Shangaan Shake series is all about that one Theo Parrish remix imo, that thing is a killer.
― Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
I spent a lot of time a lil while ago unsuccessfully trying to work that electro 2 track into a set
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 20 April 2012 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
the MMM is thee shangaan remix imo.
― stirmonster, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
i want to do a shangaan remix poll, was thinking on the way to work about whether i'd vote for theo or MMM or old apparatus or peverelist, all so dope
<3 dj rashad and spinn's too but obv it's kinda just a particularly accessible footwork track w/ a shangaan sample or two
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
personally both of those actress mixes are a little too "out there" for me
― the late great, Friday, 20 April 2012 19:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Damn, The Lord's Graffiti is one muthafucka of a tune. He is very good.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 27 April 2012 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Still digesting R.I.P personally ("Caves Of Paradise" is the standout for me so far--wobbly bassline phrase-length + phased fast hi-hats = sold), but this free John Cale remix is esp. great (more pitched-down/low-slung than anything on the new record): http://www.factmag.com/2012/04/20/download-actress-remix-of-john-cale/
― Groove is in the shart (Craig D.), Friday, 27 April 2012 04:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've only heard "marble plexus" so far and i loved it, looking forward to picking up the album hopefully tomorrow
― the late great, Friday, 27 April 2012 05:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
gah this album is fucking incredible
very "selected ambient works" imo
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
had this locked on repeat since i got it
"N.E.W." is so incredible
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
my favorite track on "splazsh" has always been "hubble"
you read my mind mr cunningham and made an entire album in that style
pretty sure one of the tracks on this is a remix of "crushed" from hazyville
― the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2012 17:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
― the late great, Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cosign all of this. never really got into splazsh, really digging this though.
― toby, Saturday, 28 April 2012 18:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is really cool
never liked splazsh either
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
dunno abt these last 4 tracks after 'glint'
kinda feel i need to start from the beginning again to work them out
― r|t|c, Sunday, 29 April 2012 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is good
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Sunday, 29 April 2012 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Liking this, the lord's graffiti and raven are the two that stood out on first listen.
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 30 April 2012 07:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is this streaming anywhere?
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 04:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm alright with these last four tracks now. i don't enjoy them especially but the juxtapositions they provide lend a sense of consequence to the rest, however gnomic; ie without them this would be a too-well-contained and easily disposable nice bit of idm retro.
i like the middle section in particular, 'jardin' / 'serpent' / 'shadow from tartarus' - 'serpent' is very autechre homage to nokia 3310. in fact a fair few of the tiny insectoid music box melody tracks remind me of lp5/ep7 era ae, moreso than aphex at least.
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
jardin is amazing...
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 11:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
you guys might be interested to check out shackleton's new "music for the quiet hour".
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 13:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
A new Shackleton already? Still getting a lot of mileage out of the Pinch collab. Another Honest Jon's release? Reading the response on the new Actress album I will definitely check it out, couldn't get into Splazsh..
― willem, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
The new Shackleton is out on his own label:
http://boomkat.com/cds/523774-shackleton-music-for-the-quiet-hour-the-drawbar-organ
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
i keep thinking of the word "palimpsest" in relation to this album, like what you get after coming home at 7am and all the music you've heard all night is still rattling around in a jangly smear inside your head
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
I LOVE THIS
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Saturday, 19 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just picked up R.I.P yesterday and want to add to the chorus of praise... This is immediately more engaging and satisfying to me than Splazsh--more beauty, more restraint, more detail, more melodic development. It's a lovely record that it's hard to imagine any other producer making. I think it may even be a "deeper" record than Splazsh but without the sheen of inscrutability that led so many people to keep on and keep on with it; R.I.P is more immediate without being any less complex.
― Clarke B., Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:30 (11 months ago) Permalink
timely reminder for me that this is a good rainy day album
― r|t|c, Thursday, 7 June 2012 13:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
i agree that it sounds a lot like autechre, especially the one track with the annoying birdsong sample sound and a couple others i can't recall are very much like the subtler confield-era stuff
― the late great, Thursday, 7 June 2012 15:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
I can see where that comparison comes from, but this is so much warmer and more luscious to me than Autechre.
― Clarke B., Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
Think I prefer Splazsh tbh - this is okay, but very similar in vibe to Oversteps-era Ae but not as involving. Might need a few more spins though.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
This is really good - his production style certainly lends itself to moody atmospheric numbers far more than it does the more beat-driven dancefloor-based material. "Tree Of Knowledge" sounds like lurching brostep recorded to a tape deck via a microphone pressed against laptop speakers to my ears.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 8 June 2012 10:06 (11 months ago) Permalink
R.I.P. is going to save the lives of so many cracked-out kids, you know at 4am when the drugs won't let you sleep and no music sounds right - this will be the only album they can listen to
vahid otm
― hot slag (lukas), Sunday, 20 January 2013 09:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
whenever I listen to this it feels like a watered down version of madlib beat tapes, I wish I could get into it because in theory this is like my favorite shit
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Sunday, 20 January 2013 18:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
which madlib beat tapes are these?
― bass, Sunday, 20 January 2013 20:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love this record. Keep coming back to it.
― Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 January 2013 20:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
new 12" "silver cloud" is some beautiful sinister fuzzed out fucked-up mutant techno
― clouds, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
is it as good as the la dusseldorf track of the same name
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yeah this is great - nice to have some longer tracks from him.
― toby, Saturday, 26 January 2013 06:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
"voodoo posse chronic illusion" is so so good
― keef qua keef (Jordan), Friday, 15 February 2013 15:50 (3 months ago) Permalink
yep
a new afx album would be nice but actress is kinda supplanting the old 90s greats imo
― polski smak (clouds), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
still unsure how I've listened to and enjoyed this dude's music for over two years but only found out a few weeks ago that he played professionally for West Brom
― Julian-Joachim Roedelius (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 February 2013 16:19 (3 months ago) Permalink
― keef qua keef (Jordan), Friday, February 15, 2013 3:50 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
absolutely addicted to this at the moment
― Number None, Friday, 15 February 2013 18:11 (3 months ago) Permalink
Even more intriguingly, it’s known that Cunningham was previously a footballer due to embark on a career with West Bromwich Albion, before injury forced him to retire from the sport at the age of 19 (a “crushing decision to make,” he says). What business, our inner snob demands to know, could a one-time professional hoofer of balls have making music as obtuse, as formally brilliant as this?
had no idea about this, rmde at the pleb who wrote that anyway
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:03 (3 months ago) Permalink
http://peterkempsrecordreviews.blogspot.co.uk/2011/08/actress-harrier-attk-gershwin-roy.html
also found this charming review by some pensioner
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:04 (3 months ago) Permalink
Remixes of Legowelt: https://soundcloud.com/clone-nl/legowelt-elementz-of-houz
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:06 (3 months ago) Permalink
his boiler room mix is still my all time favorite dj mix
― the late great, Saturday, 16 February 2013 03:29 (3 months ago) Permalink