ILM's Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll - RESULTS THREAD

There were several ties in the low end of the ranking (even 4 song ties) so I'll be giving preference to those songs with the most number of votes. If two or more songs have the same number of points and votes then I'll be considering them as ties.

There were some great songs below the top 100 that didn't make it even tho several of you were enthused by them and gave them top scores. At the end of the ranking I'll post the top 200 and the excel spreadsheet.

For reference:

Nominations thread: NOMINATIONS THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll (nominations end 10/10/10 11:59 PDT)
Voting thread: VOTING THREAD for ILM's Alltime Best Shoegaze / Dream Pop / Post-rock TRACKS poll (ends OCT 25)
Youtubes thread: Youtubes for the Shoegaze/Dreampop nominations

Ok, here we go.

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100. Cocteau Twins - Cherry Coloured Funk
Heaven Or Las Vegas (1990)

Oops forgot this bit:

(3 votes, 90 points)

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99. Mahogany - supervitesse (4 votes, 90 points)
Connectivity! (2006)

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98. Moose - Suzanne (5 votes, 90 points)
Cool Breeze (1991)

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97. Slowdive - 40 days (3 votes, 91 points)
Souvlaki (1993)

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96. Low, Transient Waves & Piano Magic - Sleep at the Bottom (3 votes, 92 points)
Sleep at the bottom / Green Acres 7" (1998)

"Suzanne" was in the last round of cuts I made while editing my ballot. It is my favorite gaze-era Moose track & I'm glad to see it made the list!

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95. My Bloody Valentine - Cupid Come (5 votes, 92 points)
Isn't Anything (1988)

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94. Cranes - Starblood (5 votes, 93 points)
Wings of Joy (1991)

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93. Mogwai - Mogwai fear Satan (5 votes, 94 points)
Young Team (1997)

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92. My Bloody Valentine - Loomer (5 votes, 95 points)
Loveless (1991)

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91. Bardo Pond - Tommy Gun Angel (4 votes, 96 points)
Lapsed (1997)

'Suzanne' sneaked into the bottom of my list too - nice to be making some sort of difference (nothing else has showed yet!)

I'll be having some quick lunch, come back to post the next batch of 10 and give it a rest until tomorrow. Anyone knows how to post youtube links but without embedding? I don't want the thread to load slowly.

post the url, but with 'xxxx' instead of 'http'. We'll work it out from there.

And be sure to let us know what you're having for lunch. These things have to constitute a full immersive experience imo.

Kind of kicking myself now that I didn't put my list in order. It was just too difficult.

Youtubes

Cocteau Twins - Cherry Coloured Funk
Mahogany - supervitesse
Moose - Suzanne
Slowdive - 40 Days

Poll countdowns with youtube embeds aren't nearly as bad as threads just stacked with them. Just post the video with each placing track and hope for some discussion between them.

Woah, slow down!

Oh, never mind. I just now noticed you're posting cover art (which didn't load for me the first time...hmm).

I don't know Mahogany at all, and I couldn't sing a Moose song at gunpoint. Think I voted for the Cocteaus there though.

More Youtubes

Low, Transient Waves & Piano Magic - Sleep at the Bottom
My Bloody Valentine - Cupid Come (live at London, 1989)
Cranes - Starblood
Mogwai - Mogwai fear Satan (Pt. 1)
My Bloody Valentine - Loomer
Bardo Pond - Tommy Gun Angel

Ok I'll do this: For the next batch of songs I'll post one song every 15 minutes or so and instead of embedding youtubes I'll post a link to the video.

Poll countdowns with youtube embeds aren't nearly as bad as threads just stacked with them. Just post the video with each placing track and hope for some discussion between them

that's true, actually - once you get the first fifty posts up (halfway there already!) the thread'll never get too youtube-heavy after that

Only one so far for me, but I'm glad I helped squeeze "Supervitesse" into the list. It's definitely not shoegaze or post-rock, but I think it fits the present-day definition of dream pop rather nicely.

ah, ignore my last post then. What *did* you have for lunch?

But doing a click on new tab wont hurt anyone... although if you'd rather have me embed the videos directly to thread I'll do it, no problem.

xpost: I had a banana and yoghurt.

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90. Lush - Nothing Natural (4 votes, 97 points)
Black Spring EP (1991)
Youtube

I really like 'Supervitesse' and the video looks great. Well done Johnny et al!

wow, a wealth of great songs already. particularly happy to see that lush song represented.

I should've voted for "Starblood" really.

Yeah, and "Nothing Natural"

Another one that very nearly made my final edits & that I'm happy to see love for. Lush's first three albums (including Gala were so cohesive that isolating individual tracks was difficult for me.

That Bardo Pond song is great, but I didn't vote for it cos I guess I kind of associate them with a whole different lineage of post-Dead C cosmic wobble. Same with FSA.

I think I need to go on a Lush binge again fairly soon.

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89. My Bloody Valentine - Swallow (5 votes, 97 points)
Tremolo (1991)
Youtube

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88. DNTEL - This Is The Dream Of Evan and Chan (4 votes, 98 points)
Life is Full of Possibilities (2001)
Youtube

MBV dominating the lower reaches. Will this be a constant, or will a few truly great songs season the top 50?

DNTEL, for real?

I'm pretty sure this list is gonna be like 1/4 MBV

Yeah I was just thinking potentially 15-20%

wait no there were only 18 mbv songs nominated so it'll be more like 1/6

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87. Yo La Tengo - From A Motel 6 (6 votes, 99 points)
Painful (1993)
Youtube

I love the DNTEL song, wasn't planning on voting for it tho since I didn't think it actually qualified but since I saw other people voting strongly for it I decided to give it a little push as well ;)

Loomer is my favourite track on Loveless, but I'm more interested about these other songs I've never heard of.

Is it wrong if I prefer Lali Puna's cover of '40 days' than the original one?

From a Motel 6 was my very first exposure to YLT. I still love it, but didn't vote for it.

Youtube: Lali Puna - 40 days

Was there a Morr label compilation comprised of slowdive covers?

Blue Skied & Clear

tho I would say only about a third of the tracks are worthwhile

Well this looks great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Skied_an%27_Clear

Which songs would you recommend Pillbox?

I'm going to get all heretical and mention that I've never been wild about Slowdive outside of a (very) few songs.

xp this is my favorite

Eh, that's about where I'm at with them too Johnny Fever.

xp: Pretty good i'd say. Will definitely give the compilation a spin after I'm finished with this.

First tie coming up.

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86. (tie) Swervedriver - Never Lose That Feeling (3 votes, 100 points)
Never Lose That Feeling (1993)
Youtube

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86. (tie) My Bloody Valentine - Lose My Breath (3 votes, 100 points)
Isn't Anything (1988)
Youtube

Surprised "Lose My Breath" is this low. That's 1/2 of my MBV voting right there.

(A tie moves those up to #85 btw. I know, poll nerd talking.)

First time I hear both songs. Swervedriver has always been to harsh for me, not fond of their sound. The MBV sounds underproduced (maybe it's just the youtube quality) but they always manage to sound sexy. I might need to get my hands on the 'Isn't Anything' EP

I'm going to get all heretical and mention that I've never been wild about Slowdive outside of a (very) few songs.

In agreement with you (if anything it was seeing them live that turned me off to them), however I'm still pretty crazy about Pygmalion (I put "Rutti" pretty high up on my ballot)

That Mahogany album is pretty terrific too.

xpost: Is that how ties work? Oops... you'll have to switch the nerd off otherwise I'll have the numbers all wrong :P

"Lose My Breath" is underproduced, as is much of everything MBV released prior to the '90s.

xpost: There were only two Pygmalion noms iirc. Should have definitely tried to sneak 'blue skied an clear' over there, first song I heard of them and it blew my mind.

Isn't Anything isn't underproduced so much as Loveless is overproduced

um... no

A good half of the appeal of Loveless is the production, though.

well, I guess considering how much it cost to produce it it's underproduced.

I can tell ilxor is gonna love the next one:

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85. The Sundays - Skin and Bones (3 votes, 101 points)
Reading, Writing and Arithmetic (1990)
Youtube

The production on Isn't Anything is disgusting. I was so, so disappointed when I heard it again after a decade's gap. I genuinely couldn't understand or remember what I'd been getting from it at the time.

SUNDAYS MADE IT!!! And it's not even one I voted for.

Quite disappointed that so many of the songs I rate are placing so low.

But at least this is the one ILX poll where it's almost guaranteed that the top 20 won't be a total sausage party... (then again, it would be just my luck if the huge range of MBV tracks nominated split the vote so much they all placed low, and the top 20 was a wash of Rides and Chapterhouses and Boos.)

Moka, Swervedriver's charms are subtle and they can sneak up on you. All of their Creation material is pretty rewarding tbh - I wouldn't write them off without investigating a little further at least.

The production on Isn't Anything could stand to be better, but the production on "Lose My Breath" is perfect.

xpost-- I didn't vote for that Sundays song either but glad to see that it placed.

Need to dig out that Sundays album again.

Despite the MBV overload, these results are already kind of diverse. Me likey.

xxxpost: well, is there a thread or a list of songs that might help me get acquainted with them? Almost everything Ive heard from them starts giving me migraine after a few minutes.

Need to dig out that Sundays album again.

I never go a month w/o listening to it at least once.

I'm wondering why I don't to be honest! Used to listen to it at before I went to sleep for years.

Never got into the DNTL track, but the Superpitcher remix of it is one of my favourite tracks from the last few years.

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xpost: The Superpitcher remix is magnificent but if the original one barely qualifies as 'nugaze' the remix definitely doesnt.

Pillbox, I thought about voting for Swervedriver as they were one of the first of this sort of thing that I'd heard, but then I realised... they're not actually that good.

Next comes a slice of proto-shoegaze/dreampop/whatever that I was unfamiliar with but I'm loving it, so thanks for the intro voters.

Can you all guess what it is?

Eno?

ar kane?

j&mc?

Nope, not Eno, not ar kane and not j&mc. I have to say am actually angry at Shakey Mo Collier for persuading me to remove my Eno nom when he didn't even vote in the poll.

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86. The Chameleons - View From A Hill (4 votes, 101 points)
Script of the Bridge (1983)
Youtube

oh, okay! I actually voted for that, but my mind was elsewhere just now when thinking of PROTO-shoegaze.

Oops that was supposed to be 84 not 86.

(that's #84 right?)

SWEET

Oh man, I'm sad that 'Never Lose That Feeling' is so low. Haven't really heard many other Swervedriver songs that I like all that much, but that one tune has such a cool mix of sweet melody and raging, blurrey-eared noise. Love that big fucking wrought-iron riff and the way it keeps hammering into the shining zing of that slide guitar bit. Love the way the verses just keep getting pushed out there like smoke rings floating out into the sun. And that breakdown too where the bass drops out, so many great parts in this song. Also if you just hear that four minute Youtube, then you're missing out on like a further six whole minutes where it changes into this entirely different thing, this whole extended smoked-out comedown section. Fucking gorgeous.

Feeling your pain moka - I never understand people getting all antsy about the noms and then losing interest. I sneaked 'warm jets' on for you instead - same album I think it was.

although great as this song is, I'm more a dull-as-ditchwater Second Skin/Soul In Isolation man

sometimes the popular ones are popular for a good reason y'know

gonna have to give Swervedriver a spin

HELL YEAH view from a hill!!!

crut as soon as I saw it I was like '50 points from the c-man there' :D

^ tru

Hey LJ, here's a link to the full 12 minute version.

http://open.spotify.com/track/57h9OfKBj4QLOJHiBADKcw

xpost: The Superpitcher remix is magnificent but if the original one barely qualifies as 'nugaze' the remix definitely doesnt.

I've always thought of a lot of Kompakt's output as being very shoegazey though, it's not a bit leap from 'Soon' to this.

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83. Slowdive - Slowdive (5 votes, 101 points)
Slowdive EP (1990)
Youtube

oh wow wow wow wow this Swervedriver song is KILLING it so far

i love swervedriver. the first three records are all great, but 'raise' is especially fantastic. one of the prettiest, hook-drenched ear-bashings i've had the pleasure to hear.

The next one was my wake-up alarm song for the best part of 2007:

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82. Glenn Branca - Lesson No.1 (4 votes, 102 points)
Lesson No.1 (1980)
Youtube

There's the one Slowdive song I voted for. xps

Wrong youtube link- Here we go:
Glenn Branca - Lesson No. 1

I should've thrown 'Slowdive' a few for old times' sake. It's still really good, though the drums go badly out-of-time at the end. I secretly kind of wanted Slash or someone to come in playing a really huge lead over the intro.

I have a feeling Suzanne is going to be the only Moose track here. Should've voted for it!

Have to go. Here comes the last song of the day -

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81. Disco Inferno - Summer's Last Sound (4 votes, 103 points)
Summer's Last Sound EP (1992)
Youtube

And to wrap up:

81 Disco Inferno - Summer's Last Sound
82 Glenn Branca - Lesson No.1
83 Slowdive - Slowdive
84 The Chameleons - View From A Hill
85 The Sundays - Skin and Bones
86 My Bloody Valentine - Lose My Breath
86 Swervedriver - Never Lose That Feeling
87 Yo La Tengo - From A Motel 6
88 DNTEL - This Is The Dream Of Evan and Chan
89 My Bloody Valentine - Swallow
90 Lush - Nothing Natural
91 Bardo Pond - Tommy Gun Angel
92 My Bloody Valentine - Loomer
93 Mogwai - mogwai fear satan
94 Cranes - Starblood
95 My Bloody Valentine - Cupid Come
96 Low, Transient Waves & Piano Magic - Sleep at the Bottom
97 Slowdive - 40 Days
98 Moose - Suzanne
99 Mahogany - supervitesse
100 Cocteau Twins - Cherry Coloured Funk

Here's today's rundown

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

oops

oh man, "Summer's Last Sound" is too low

I should have given it more points, that song is just perfection

awesome! 4 songs from my ballot so far!!! Including two from my Top 10 (Glenn Branca & Bardo Pond yeah!)

I've voted for precisely one of these - thought I'd be doing a lot better.

I've got four in so far. That's better than I'd thought I'd be doing by this point.

I gave "never lose that feeling" my #1 (weighted) vote so I hope that had something to do with it. Wish it'd scored higher tho!

Also pretty o_0 at people saying "Isnt anything" is horrible and underproduced wtf. Have you guys even heard their pre-shoegaze stuff?

Ok yeah I like Johnny's rundown presentation better.

haha I looked back at my ballot and I gave "Summer's Last Sound" 49 points, so I guess really more people should have voted for it (why because it is awesome)

Never Lose That Feeling is freaking epic

Summer's Last Sound is so, so cool. My god! The really high echoey sample!

Have you guys even heard their pre-shoegaze stuff?

It's worse?! I'd imagined it a bit like Frankie Goes To Hollywood, myself.

Last two tracks so far are class, but I didn't vote for either. Yay for Trayce for never losing that feeling. :)

So far there are zero tracks from my ballot

Only two of mine connected, but six or seven others were outliers on my list.

MBV are being treated justly.

6 or 7 of mine which is making me lose hope of seeing some of the others. :(

I had 3 from my ballot

I hope "Catchfire" is high up there

Feel pretty meh about the list so far. Sorry guys.

Although I did try and fail to seek out that Low, Transient Waves, Piano Magic track. Will give that a listen. Is it as good as it should be?

It's worse?! I'd imagined it a bit like Frankie Goes To Hollywood, myself.

I cant parse this sentemce. Are you saying thats what you *wanted* it to sound like?

I love "sunny sundae smile" and stuff of that era. Some of it is like a janglepop Cramps!

Emil.y I believe that's on the Rocket Girl comp. I don't particularly remember it standing out but it's been a while.

the low/TW/piano magic track is beautiful but that's 90% because of alan & mimi's singing

i mean 99%

2 of my votes in so far. thought it was 4 then realised i'd voted for difft tracks by the artists in question

I'd imagined it a bit like Frankie Goes To Hollywood, myself.

are you serious?????

0 for 20 so far though i meant to vote for loomer probably.

4 of mine have come up so far much to my suprise.

I'm now wondering if Disco Inferno might be a suprise high scorer.

^class dn

thanking u

so far the only songs that i have voted for are the absolutely wonderful "Suzanne" and "Tommy Gun Angel" which barely made it. i ended up dropping songs like "Slowdive," "Nothing Natural" and the excellent "Never Lose That Feeling" (the second part of that is called "/Never Learn" and is around 12 minutes long). My Bloody Valentine just had way too many songs on this thing so i only put on one song from the Loveless period on this list because i felt they didn't need my help.

Haha it would be *hilarious* if everyone had the same idea.

(I did not vote for anything off Loveless tbh)

1/20

Wait a sec, what about the tie? Swervedriver and MBV are tied at #86, so YLT moves down to #88, etc. and Cocteaus' "Cherry Coloured Funk" is out of the top 100?

I'm kind of shocked that "Lesson No. 1" made it, that was a fairly odd nomination IMO. Then again, it's not so surprising because it was the only Branca track nominated, so people who wanted to vote for Branca didn't have a choice.

How many MBV tracks did some people vote for anyway? How else to explain "Loomer" and "Swallow" in the top 100? Maybe I shouldn't have stuck to voting for just one track per artist (although I made an exception for MBV and voted for them twice). Still kicking myself for voting for two Chapterhouse and DIV songs and forgetting to vote for "Leave Them All Behind".

Swallow should be higher imo

it certainly sounds better when i'm higher

damn, go on a short holiday trip and I end up missing the voting period... oh well, time to reach for the popcorn then

I'm kind of shocked that "Lesson No. 1" made it, that was a fairly odd nomination IMO. Then again, it's not so surprising because it was the only Branca track nominated, so people who wanted to vote for Branca didn't have a choice.

Yeah, this. I just decided not to vote for Branca. (Although every time I make a statement like this I'm going to panic and wonder if maybe I did vote for the thing I say I didn't vote for, as my list-making was so rushed.)

How many MBV tracks did some people vote for anyway?

I voted for three. Curiously, all from Loveless, even though I definitely used to prefer Isn't Anything. Have listened to the former much more recently than the latter, mind you, so memory is probably the key. I hate having a sieve-like mind.

Oh, and:

Wait a sec, what about the tie?

I think from upthread it looks like Moka is going to ignore normal protocol for ties, and just have them as e.g. 100, 99, 99, 98, 97, 97, 96. It's a bit of a funny way of doing it but I have no problem with it.

Y'all ready?

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80. Julee Cruise - Falling (6 votes, 104 points)
Floating into the Night (1989)
Youtube

I think you'll find today's picks more exciting, emily. At least I do ;)

I forgot to re-listen to Julee Cruise when voting. Never been sure if it'd stack up for me outside of Lynch films.

I was right chuffed with myself for nominating 'Falling', but when it came down to it I decided I couldn't justify it on a shoegaze ballot. I should've though, it's totally classic dreampop.

I didn't vote for it but I think it does pretty well on its own. I heard it before seeing any of the Twin Peaks episodes tho so my first relation to the song is not Lynchian. Definitely not shoegaze but feels at home with other dreampop classics.

Hell yeah! That's 5 for me! Julee Cruise is like Elizabeth Fraser as a classic balladeer, almost a torch singer...

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79. Spacemen 3 - Suicide (4 votes, 105 points)
Playing With Fire (1989)
Youtube

I've tried and tried and still can't get into Spacemen 3 (or Spiritualized, for that matter). Also, I don't enjoy drugs.

the whole Julee Cruise/Angelo Badalamenti aesthetic was born of necessity b/c Lynch didn't have enough money to secure the rights to use "Song to the Siren" by This Mortal Coil in Blue Velvet (although it was later included in Lost Highway), so Lynch hired Cruise & Badalamenti to create a facsimile & they came up with "Mysteries of Love." & then the rest of her first album & a lot of the TP music just sort of came together naturally from that point.

I loved Spacemen 3 well before I ever took any drugs of any kind. (However, I'm going to start screaming "but they are NOT shoegaze OR dreampop OR post-rock!!!" at this point because really, dronerock wasn't mentioned in the original brief at all, or else I'd have made a whole different bunch of noms/votes.)

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78. M83 - Run Into Flowers (4 votes, 106 points)
Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts (2003)
Youtube

I really don't like anything from that album now as much as I did in 2003. The M83 stuff made since has held up pretty well, though.

The only thing by Spacemen 3 I've heard that I really like is the Taking Drugs to Make Music version of Sound of Confusion (aka Walkin with Jesus)...I have a suspicion that might be the S3 album for me....

w/ Dead Cities, its all about 0078h imo. and In Church.

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77. Verve - a man called sun (5 votes, 107 points)
The Verve EP (1992)
Youtube

Really don't get why people think that's Verve's best early tune.

I put my bet on a different Verve track from that era.

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76. Wire - the 15th (5 votes, 108 points)
154 (1979)
Youtube

Which one, Pillbox? I'd have given She's A Superstar a load of points, you more a Gravity Grave/Butterfly man?

Too low! (Wait...did I vote for it? Oh, I didn't. Oops!)

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75. Moose - Jack (4 votes, 109 points)
Jack EP (1991)
Youtube

'A Man Called Sun''s about brown, is that right?

xp to lj - Gravity Grave. Not for the studio cut, but for this version & the one from Voyager 1 that I posted in the voting thread.

^ the version of GG I linked to is just a shitty transfer of the same recording that is on the No Come Down ep. They were recorded from the same performance at least, & the NCD version of course sounds immaculate.

I think 'a man called sun' could be about god but the drug interpretation fits too.

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74. (tie) Pale Saints - Throwing Back the Apple (5 votes, 110 points)
Throwing Back the Apple (1992)
Youtube

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74. (tie) My Bloody Valentine - I Only Said (5 votes, 110 points)
Loveless (1991)
Youtube

RE: A Man Called Sun - I recall reading at some point that it was written while they were all headlong into an acid trip, so I doubt it is about smack. I think they were mostly sticking to psychedelics in their early days.

It's definitely a motivational song, if it's not about a certain someone that inspires you to keep on going in life it could be about a drug that gives you strength to bare through another day.

That's the last tie btw. We almost had another one in #2 but last votes changed the scores.

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79. Lush - For Love (6 votes, 110 points)
Spooky (1992)
Youtube

Finally seeing some of my votes appear.

Dammit. That's supposed to be #73 not #79.

A Man Called Sun is all about the way that the vocal and bass goes up on "Mr Sun won't you shiiiiiiiiiiiine" while the guitar goes down and the reverb opens out and it creates this incredible sense of both space and tension.

http://imgur.com/RJtb2.jpg
72. The Telescopes - High On Fire (4 votes, 111 points)
The Telescopes (1992)
No youtubes found..

The mysterious third eye fuzzdrone band in the Spacemen 3/Loop pyramid, The Telescopes sign to Creation, quickly conclude that they can do everything the other Creation bands can, only better. Look for the outer space version on the "Flying" EP which crams in drones, tremolos, harmonies, weird timing, and one colossal riff in a perfect 2:44 song.

- Elvis in Telecom

Woah, that's the 'We got one minute!' performance, right? I didn't know there was footage of it - amazing!

That said, finally hearing the full studio version was one of my greatest pleasures from this poll. I bought the 10" cos it was so cute, but it faded out midway through.

http://991.com/newGallery/Spacemen-3-Hypnotized----Pos-108520.jpg
71. Spacemen 3 - Hypnotized (4 votes, 111 points)
Hypnotized (1989)
Youtube

Not sure how I feel about any Sp* being on the shoegaze poll (a separate drone rock poll is needed), but there you go. My favorite Spacemen 3 song.

- Elvis in Telecom

ET OTM, but if one were to vote for a Spacemen track in a shoegaze poll, this would be the one (even tho it is, in essence, a Spiritualized song anyway).

Damn, I messed up again, those are supposed to be 112 points not 111. Scores are pretty tight in this poll btw.

http://imgur.com/XB14N.jpg
70. Ride - Taste (5 votes, 113 points)
Fall EP (1990)
Youtube

'High on Fire' was my number one, natch. It's the pinnacle of their shoegaze period as far as I'm concerned.

I effed up the youtube adress... I'm particulaty erratic today.

Youtube: Ride - Taste

I had no idea who the Telescopes were. I'm digging through their records atm and I have to say they've been one of the most pleasant discoveries I've had due to this poll. I even gave my votes for two of their tracks.

http://optimisticunderground.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/disco-inferno-second-language-ep-f.jpg
69. Disco Inferno - Second Language (4 votes, 114 points)
Second Language EP (1994)
Youtube

Not sure if this'll work, but here's links to two versions of High on Fire from spotify:

second album version (the re-worked version of the second album not the original release)
http://open.spotify.com/track/29j4Z9zHKS69YRRot0qN77

EP version
http://open.spotify.com/track/0oadR3JepRxm68BxUcsGNM

Thanks emily.

Yeah. Many thanks emily.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51AIUh3oqEL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
68. Slowdive - Souvlaki Space Station (7 votes, 115 points)
Souvlaki (1993)
Youtube

I was already listening to 'em :P

but I had to grab dinner

let's resume

oh NEAT TRACK here

even if I'm an indie fuckwad hoping Blue Skied An' Clear wins the Slowdive mini-poll (yeah I know it'll be When The Sun Hits)

Which slowdive mini poll?

the poll within this poll - Which Slowdive Track Will Win - I for one am excited

Oh... well Blue Skied an' Clear wasn't nominated so...

SSS is the only one I voted for...I hadn't heard any Slowdive before this poll, but they definitely piqued my interest!...

http://imgur.com/LigrJ.jpg
67. House of Love - Destroy the Heart (7 votes, 116 points)
The House of Love (1988)
Youtube

I'm happy the next one made it in such high ranks (partly my fault since I gave it 50 points).

http://imgur.com/VZQK3.jpg
66. A.R. Kane - Lollita (3 votes, 117 points)
Lollita Ep (1987)
Youtube

'Souvlaki Space Station' is the third of mine to show tonight. Lovely thing it is. It's a real pity that album wasn't their debut - Just For A Day killed them imo.

JFAD underrated imo, but I don't think I represent the typical Slowdive fan because I don't like the other two records much at all.

http://imgur.com/EoZiq.jpg
65. Ride - Drive Blind (3 votes, 118 points)
Ride EP (1990)
Youtube

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/Whirlpoolchapterhouse.jpg
64. Chapterhouse - Breather (7 votes, 118 points)
Whirlpool (1990)
Youtube

Kind of dissapointed of myself for not nominating and voting for Chapterhouse's 'Mesmerise' which I think is better than anything off Whirlpool.

Youtube: Chapterhouse - Mesmerise

None of my picks have been posted today (yesterday there were three) but there are some great songs here. I have a love/hate thing with "Suicide", I really have to be in the mood to hear it because sometimes the thought of sitting through all one billion minutes of it seems like torture. For me, early S3 >> late S3, which is why I didn't vote for the songs that were nominated.

"Taste" is fantastic -- maybe the best song on "Nowhere" outside of "Dreams Burn Down"

'Lollita''s a fabulous track, well done voters. Didn't know it at all - they were impossible to find anything out about bitd I found, you'd see them cited from time to time with no backstory whatsoever except the M|A|R|R|S thing, no indication of what they did or when, or if it was a solo artist or a band even. They even had to go and have a virtually unsearchable name for the dawn of the internet too. Could've been worse I suppose, they could've been Can.

'Mesmerise' was the first track nominated, moka!

Wait, "Taste" isn't on "Nowhere" ... the North American version has some extra tracks, so I still associate that song with "Nowhere".

xposts to myself

guess that's one track I can rule out being no.1 then xpp

xpost: Goddamit! I didn't see it when casting my votes :P

I first heard of AR Kane after seeing Lollita on Woebot's '100 Greatest Records Ever' ( http://www.woebot.com/2005/12/part_one.html )
fell in love with that EP.

Kind of dissapointed of myself for not nominating and voting for Chapterhouse's 'Mesmerise' which I think is better than anything off Whirlpool.

"Mesmerise" was the first Chapterhouse song I ever heard, I still love it. I didn't hear "Whirlpool" until about ten years later (after I'd heard almost everything else by them).

http://www.cokemachineglow.com/images/8083.jpg
63. Grouper - Heavy Water/I'd Rather Be Sleeping (4 votes, 119 points)
Dragging A Dead Deer Up A Hill (2008)
Youtube

^ This is one of my favorite songs of the past decade, so glad it made it.

I was going to nominate 'Die, Die, Die' but ran out xxp. I never found out where that track comes from, pretty sure it's an early one because I think I'd heard of it before I'd ever anything by them.

"Treasure" & the Robin Guthrie mix of "Something More" were always my fave Chapterhouse jams. In this poll, though, I voted strategically. "Mesmerize" is def also A+ obv.

creepy sleeve there

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/42/Slowdive_ep.jpeg
62. Slowdive - Avalyn I (3 votes, 120 points)
Slowdive EP (1990)
Youtube

Drive Blind way way too low. That is in my top 3 Ride ever easily.

Love that Grouper song.

Plus she (Liz Harris aka Grouper) lives in Portland so take that Dandy Warhols!

Voted for that Grouper track, too. So beautiful.

xpost: Yeah can't really explain it's appeal tho, lyrics are pubescent poetry at best and the song pretty much consists of a reverb soaked guitar which is the cheapest way to create atmosphere... it overall cheats on its real depth yet it fools me every time.

"Avalyn I": far and away my favourite Slowdive track.

Ok I lied, I actually think the lyrics are beautiful.

This feeling doesnt go away
I feel it moving through me
I want a love I had inside
Want to feel it moving through me

In dreams I'm moving through heavy water the love is enormous its lifting me up
I'd rather be sleeping I'd rather fall in to tidal waves and go where the deepest currents go.

I opened a mirror up and saw a true love
I let it separate in two the water rising up over my head

In dreams I'm moving through heavy water the love is enormous its lifting me up
I'd rather be sleeping I'd rather fall in to tidal waves and go where the deepest currents go.

Kinda amazed for the lack of love for "Avalyn I", it pretty much epitomises the genre for me. When I hear 'shoegazing', I hear this.

Last song of the day:

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61. Spiritualized - Medication (5 votes, 121 points)
Medication (1992)
Youtube

Verdict on today's numbers?

None from my list today, but I did vote for other tracks by ten of the bands that made today's roster.

'Medication' always left me cold. It was one out of the first few CDs I ever got which got me thinking something was wrong with the format, things sounded so clinical ('Moving On Up' by Primal Scream was another). So I scurried back to vinyl for a time, with added bonus that you could use it to play 'Avalyn I' at 33rpm.

Four of mine today, and I pulled 'Drive Blind' at the last moment (sorry pandemic)

Avalyn 1 not really doing it for me tbh. I think I skew far more to the 'post punk pop' side of shoegazing, the ethereal sound scapes thing just isn't my bag at all.

A good day all round - MBVless too I see

Wow - I had 7 today after only 1 yesterday which probably means no more until we get towards the end.

Just realized I didn't vote for 'Taste.' WTF was I thinking?

Medication, nice one to end with. Think my one Spiritualized vote went to something else however.

wrong Ismael...ur missing I Only Said

5 more for me today, bringing the total up to 9...Holy Cow! I'm expecting at least 2 more from my list

need Johnny to step up with his countdown now

as far as MBV goes, I voted for my 3 favorite songs of Loveless...I figurd inevitably that MBV would be like Sabbath on the metal poll, and I think there were 6 Sabbath songs on my ballot for that one...

if my #1 makes it I might break out in a dance...

(it's not MBV)

I voted for 3 MBV songs as well. 1 has already appeared, 1 will not likely appear at all, and the third is the elephant in the room.

right on, none of my MBV songs have appeared yet; I figure one probably will, though it's hard telling about any of this stuff...

xp - Is the elephant Soon or Only Shallow?

yes

I think I voted for two mbv, possibly three - none have appeared yet anyway. I mostly find it hard to differentiate between their tracks actually. If they hadn't released singles I probably couldn't tease the Loveless stuff out at all.

I voted for 6 MBV songs but "Lose My Breath" is the only one I voted for that's come up on the list so far

& that's also the one I gave the most points to

xpost -- Let's just say I should have voted for 'Taste' and 'Soon.' I had a couple of spots left too!

I kind of think that the whole MBV songs are hard to tell apart is slightly crap...I don't really have a problem telling apart the three songs I voted for...(but then again maybe each track has certain earmarks that each of us fall in love with...?)

"...the whole 'MBV songs are hard to tell apart' complaint..."

Maybe ... I blame vinyl a bit - for an album like that, you don't get the chance to break it up like on cd or tape

yeah I can see that...

hmmm...turns out I cut the Spiritualized track at the last minute; only four for me today....

Sorry I missed most of it live, I was out:

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

So I guess if #74 was the last of the ties, that means "Supervitesse" and "Cherry Coloured Funk" are both overrun.

Lolita was my joint number one so it's a bit sad to see it languishing down at the arse end of this poll. I guess it's a good deal more obscure than it ought to be due to its terrible lack of availability, but anyhow - I have always loved both its perfect bone-like fragility and its outbursts of woozy violence, all smoke and smashed bedroom mirrors. That whole EP is great, really looking forward to it getting reissued.

Threw minor points at the House of Love and Grouper songs too, puts me at 5 out of forty.

'High on Fire' was my number one, natch. It's the pinnacle of their shoegaze period as far as I'm concerned.

This was my number one also.

OK, only three songs from my ballot so far. I suspect I'm going to be the outlier here.

I had four make it yesterday, none today. I might have considered "Lollita" if I had more of a history with A.R. Kane. They're a group I've heard, but have never spent much time with despite meaning to do just that for years and years.

I love A.R. Kane...voted Lollita, prolley should've voted Up but ran out of space...the song I gave the most points to, and my favorite thing of theirs that I've heard, is the b-side of their first single, called So Far Away...

if there is any band that needs to collect their early singles onto a single disc, it's this one!!!

That Spiritualized thing is just horrible, imho.

ha that is one of only three spz songs i can stand to listen to

"Medication" is my favorite Spiritualized song. Period.

"Avalyn" is incredible, I had it on my ballot and then took it off in favour of "Allison". Not totally sure why I did that!

JFAD underrated imo, but I don't think I represent the typical Slowdive fan because I don't like the other two records much at all.

this is me as well. i find the second one ok but i have never warmed to pygmalion

No Boo Radleys yet??

woo, 3 of mine got in but all way too low. drive blind, breather and avalyn 1 all should have been top 10. only 3 votes for drive blind? really? good thing i gave it a ton of points.

2 of mine from today's lot. i'm guessing my ride/slowdive/mbv choices will not be among the popular ones

77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" - ended up voting for two Verve songs and both come from one two song EP.

75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) - my number five song. i think i saw every other shoegaze band live but not this one.

74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) - voted for two very different songs from this band. my nickname from one of my friends was Pale Saint.

72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) - my song by the Telescopes was "You Set My Soul."

68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) - my number 33

61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) - my number 15

...Ride...

only Telescopes I'd heard before this thread was "Kick the Wall" which I've always liked, and now see I must have bought at an early gig. Listened to the As Approved comp today, and see that there's a lot to like, especially the early tracks. Gets the sweet-scrapy balance right.

I want to hug all the people responsible for creating and executing this poll

And not just any hug, but a hug that lasts a half-second too long and makes you think "wow. was there something to that hug? does he like me as more than just a friend?"

both come from one two song EP. - nitpicking here, but if yr referring to the 'All in the Mind' EP, there were three tracks.

Gah. I'm away from home this week with limited and very sporadic internet access, so missing most of this. I like the look of the list so far: there are six of my votes in there, plus at least another five that were on my long list. At some point I'll get around to listening to the things I don't know (I have to confess I hardly know any Cocteau Twins, for example). Just skimming through, so maybe this has already been mentioned, but the artwork for 'Taste' is wrong.

Pedantic git.

PS it's wrong for 'Destroy The Heart' too.

No Boo Radleys yet??

Votes spread too thinly between all the nominated tracks? I voted for some, but I doubt the ones I voted for picked up many/any votes from anyone else. When the final spreadsheet is up I'll add up all the votes on a group-by-group basis: I think they'll have done better on that basis than they will have done for individual tracks. I voted for quite a lot of Ride, too, but I suspect they'll also suffer from having so many songs nominated.

There were some great songs below the top 100 that didn't make it even tho several of you were enthused by them and gave them top scores

Hmmmm. I'm wondering if my no.1 hasn't made the cut. I was a bit surprised by my choice myself, but it was the song I most enjoyed listening to while I was sorting out my ballot. Without giving anything away I'll be staggered if no.2 doesn't appear, though.

surprised and happy to see Avalyn I chart (was Avalyn II nominated? these days I might even prefer that one)

Where you at, Moka?

Hey, I'm here. Yeah you guys are right covers for the Fall Ep and House of Love are wrong.

Ok let's get this started.

Yay!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a9/MyBloodyValentineGlider.jpg
60. My Bloody Valentine - Off Your Face (4 votes, 122 points)
Glider (1990)
Youtube

I used to have 20 or 30 promo flats for this EP because the record store I went to most in the early '90s just piled all that shit by the front door. I never ended up using them for anything, sadly.

Piled on the floor so you would see it while you were gazing at your shoes obv.

http://triciclodearte.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/teenage_fanclub_bandwagonesque-1991.jpg
59. Teenage Fanclub - Star Sign (6 votes, 123 points)
Bandwagonesque (1991)
Youtube

Um...okay

For those who were there: when did mbv start to get feted? They were already way legendary by mid-'91 when I came along. Glider seems like their big leap forward to me.

xxpost: lol had the same thought when I read Johnny's post.

aw c'mon Johnny it's fuzzy enough to be shoegaze...

I love 'Star Sign' but I couldn't vote for it here. Don't begrudge them being here though - they don't really fit anywhere else.

'You Made Me Realise' was when the UK music weeklies really sat up and took notice. xps

Aight, Boo fans, rejoice:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/BoosEverything.jpg
58. Boo Radleys - Does This Hurt? (5 votes, 124 points)
Everything's Alright Forever (1992)
Youtube

IIRC, NME was doing a "best of the 80s" round up in early 89, and they already included Isn't Anything. Which was like 10 weeks old at the time.

Didn't vote for any Teenage Fanclub as I couldn't think of anything that I thought fit the remit. Still don't think 'Star Sign' is shoegazing or dreampop (been ignoring 'post-rock' in the title as I don't think anybody really voted for pure post-rock here... in fact I don't think there was even very much nominated).

DI = first wave of post-rock

'Off Your Face' sounds great on my tiny, tinny phone speaker - kevin shields must be turning in his grave

apparently I didn't think Star Sign was v. shoegazey either, because I failed to vote for it. Nominated it, though...

Well everybody were good sports and sort of understood the reason I added 'post rock' in the title g in which I meant the so called first wave of post-rock which was definitely influenced by shoegaze. Post-rock seems like a broad and meaningless term past the first wave imho.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61D4V30YRQL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
57. The Sundays - Here's Where the Story Ends (6 votes, 124 points)
Reading, Writing and Arithmetic (1990)
Youtube

Still happy to see The Sundays show up here. Still not the track I voted for, though.

For those who were there: when did mbv start to get feted? - with the release of Isn't Anything, pretty much. The two preceding EPs had created a buzz & when IA delivered on that promise, the critics shat themselves & all the C86 bands started using distortion pedals & such.

my idea wz that first-wave post-rock wz pretty much A.R. Kane, Arthur Russell, and late Talk Talk...don't know much about the whole Disco Inferno/Bark Psychosis/Seefeel stuff but that apparently fits as well...

(xxp)

Before this poll the only Sundays I had heard was their cover of 'wild horses'. Not really think of them as dreampop or shoegaze when hearing the nominated tracks and I don't get the heaps of love they get around here but the voters have spoken.

all the C86 bands started using distortion pedals & such

wait the JaMC didn't already get them to start doing that?

Well everybody were good sports and sort of understood the reason I added 'post rock' in the title g in which I meant the so called first wave of post-rock which was definitely influenced by shoegaze.

Yeah, I definitely voted for some drone stuff that crosses over into 'post-rock' territory, but I feel like 'drone rock' is more apt, and closer to shoegaze.

Always found the Sundays I've heard terribly boring, will give the stuff that gets in a listen, though.

OH, wait. I think I already know that track, and it's dreadful.

All the Sundays you need, really, is the entirety of the first album and "Goodbye" from Blind. The rest is optional depending on your feelings at that point.

Well the nominated tracks sort of sound like a tamer version of the tamest Cranberries songs to me.

xp to Drugs - yeah sure, but MBV was sort of a giant catalyst in the process

The Cranberries were L-A-M-E.

The Sundays were just pretty-ish indie pop afaic. Seeing them makes me wonder how they got nommed but the Sugarcubes didn't.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51tGBsj8cUL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
56. Cocteau Twins - Heaven Or Las Vegas (6 votes, 125 points)
Heaven Or Las Vegas (1990)
Youtube

There is nothing particularly shoegazey about Bjork or anything The Sugarcubes did...?

I kind of wish I had nom'd and voted for Gigantic...

At least Dave Gavurin's guitar playing was gazey, and Harriet's voice was kind of angelic...two hallmarks of dreampop to me.

Never cared for the title track on the Cocteaus album (or Iceblink Luck either). The other 8 are stellar.

Didn't vote for this but I love this song.

Johnny Fever, you are a weirdo. HOLV & IL are by far the two best trax on that album!

voted for this btw

There is nothing particularly shoegazey about Bjork or anything The Sugarcubes did...?

Eh, if 'Birthday' isn't 'dreampop' I'll eat my shoe.

Did anyone nom 'Birthday'?

nope.

I would have voted for it.

also um please start eating that shoe because "dreampop" is maybe the LAST term I would use to describe anything The Sugarcubes did

Wait, so we're saying Birthday is dreampop but songs from the first Sundays album aren't?

I'm saying both are dreampop in my book.

Don't look at me. I just said the Sundays didn't sound dreampop-y enough for me, I never brought the Sugarcubes to the table.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/Bark_Psychosis_-_Hex.jpg
55. Bark psychosis - a street scene (3 votes, 126 points)
Hex (1994)
Youtube: The Loom + Street Scene

That cover and album name reminds me of some sort of new-age act.

Johnny Fever, you are a weirdo.

Clearly.

(3 votes, 126 points) niiiiice

I mean, I can see kind of where you're coming from but, in my book, a critical component of dreampop is "ethereal" and "Birthday" is weird, expansive, meandering, and all around awesome, but way too forceful a vocal performance to be considered "ethereal".

I wouldn't have The Sundays here but what can you do? They're not far away imo but they're not fuzzy at all and that's one of the top requirements for me. If there's ever a c86 poll they should be on that.

xxxpost: Yep last instance in this poll where a song gets that high with such lower number of points. We've got a pair of 4voters ahead tho.

The Sundays has more motion to them than most of the C86 bands, though, who were all pretty rigid.

Love this track dearly, but it did not fit within my self-set (and admittedly very rigid) voting parameters.

they'd clean up then

xpost. I'm thinking 'Birthday' as dreampop more from an instrumental perspective. Regarding the vocal performance, I agree with you.

Ok just to wrap up my last opinion on the sundays discussion. Dreampop's connection to shoegaze is atmospherical for the most part. The Sundays songs are too clean and polished to be considered dreampop imho, if maybe there was some sort of soundwall burying her voice or the acoustic guitars then maybe I could consider it dreampop. Even a reverb-soaked or echo-ey guitar would do.

This board got me to listen to Bark Psychosis a few years ago, btw. Didn't do a thing for me.

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55. Spiritualized - Run (4 votes, 127 points)
Lazer Guided Melodies (1992)
Youtube

^ 54 not 55.

I have that album with the name spelt 'Spritualized'

lol oops

Shine A Light and If I Were With Her Now and maybe Angel Sigh are my faves from that album, wonder if any of 'em will crop up (doubtful)

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53. Kitchens Of Distinction - Drive That Fast (7 votes, 128 points)
Strange Free World (1990)
Youtube

SUPER!

"Birthday" is weird, expansive, meandering, and all around awesome, but way too forceful a vocal performance to be considered "ethereal".

Yeah maybe, but it's closer to the Cranes or the Cocteaus or Hugo Largo or whoever than the Sundays ever were imo.

Run was my one Spiritualized vote iirc. It seems everyone other than me really took into account the genre appropriateness of the noms before voting. I didn't, just went with my favs on the list which resulted in at least a quarter of my ballot being filled with stuff I'd never call shoegaze OR dreampop.

This is the first thing I'd voted for to show up since Tuesday. xps

I think you meant this for Kitchens of Distinction

Very happy about the Kitchens of Distinction votes. One of the most underrated shoegaze bands I think.

Next one sounds goth-gaze to my ears and it aint the Cure.

I never really connected KoD to shoegaze, personally.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M_jjIJQmP64/S4fPwKFfg-I/AAAAAAAABcs/w7gEWABr4hE/s320/Slowdive+-+Morningrise+EP.jpg
52. Slowdive - morningrise (6 votes, 129 points)
Morningrise (1991)
Youtube

here's a Youtube of that song playable in the US

I got a bit bored with a lot of KoD, but 'Drive That Fast' still has the power to clobber me.

Guys I promised a friend I'd go jogging with her and she arrived early. I'm gonna leave you now and I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.

http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/61S161DW2XL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
51. M83 - Don't Save Us From The Flames (4 votes, 130 points)
Before the Dawn Heals Us (2005)
Youtube

I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.

UNACCEPTABLE! I'm just going to make up the next 10.

lol ok I'll give you a clue, 3 bands that haven't appeared so far appear twice in the following ten numbers.

Here's the bottom half of the top 100(+2) for those keeping track:

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]
59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]
58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]
57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]
56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]
55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]
54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]
53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]
52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]
51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]

Yay, 'A Street Scene'! Can take or leave a lot of Bark Psychosis, but I love that track. Also 'Morningrise' was my only Slowdive vote, affection at least partly driven by the fact it was the first of theirs that I heard.

US-playable M83 Youtube

Could Slowdive give MBV a run for their money in terms of tracks that place?

er.. number of trax that place.

Right now it is 6-5 w/ MBV in the lead

& out there still are at least two big Souvlaki tracks & one early single. A shitload of MBV as well, obv.. o_O @"Machine Gun" & "Blue Skied an Clear" & "Waves" not being nominated.

it's all Slowdive and MBV from here on out PB...

my prediction for #1 = You Made Me Realise

From that last batch, my picks were "Off Your Face", which still might be my favourite MBV track; "Morningrise", and "Here's Where the Story Ends" - one of a few Sundays tracks I rounded off my ballot with. They don't fit the description of shoegaze or even dreampop in my book, but such is my love for Reading Writing and Arithmetic - best LP of the 1990s by a chalk of any length - that I couldn't resist throwing some of their songs into the mix. God, I love that album.

xp: callin it "Only Shallow"

Wow, heaps of people voted for "Does this Hurt?". (inc myself). Awesome x

Dang! I haven't been on ILM much and completely missed the voting for this. I would have given all my votes to "Sometimes" FWIW.

Aight I'm back. Let me drink water and I'll start.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RccJycRsmM8/SgtFL8qZldI/AAAAAAAAABM/r-_0cbEQBpA/s320/Loop-Arc-lite.jpg
50. Loop - Arc-Lite (Sonar) (5 votes, 132 points)
Arc-Lite (1989)
Youtube

^Liking the sound of this one.

that song sounds very Oneida-y

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/LeisureUK.jpg
49. Blur - Sing (5 votes, 134 points)
Leisure - UK version (1991)
Youtube

^okay I def. voted for this & gave it a good amount of points too...

Brilliant song. Didn't vote for it but glad it made it to the top 50.

I had no idea this was only released in the UK version of the album. No wonder I've never heard of it until Trainspotting dug it out for us in the American continent.

Yeah! I gave this a whirl again, was surprised at just how good it is. Got decent points from me too.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/610uqgW40qL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
48. Brian Eno - Here Comes the Warm Jets (5 votes, 134 points)
Here Come The Warm Jets (1974)
Youtube

Sod Shakey, thanks Ismael for sneaking this one in for me, I gave it a full 50 points. I still think 'needle in the camel's eye' made more sense in the poll but I'm happy either way.

Finally some Loop made it in.

I don't know why I left "Sing " out of my ballot. I totally meant to vote for it.

Re: The Sundays, I'm with Moka, I mean, I love "Here's Where The Story Ends" but shoegaze it ain't.

Re: The Sundays, I'm with Moka, I mean, I love "Here's Where The Story Ends" but shoegaze it ain't.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_M_jjIJQmP64/Syu4t-0SzeI/AAAAAAAAAhk/vZL2af6sMPA/s320/curve+-+blindfold+EP.jpg
47. Curve - 10 Little Girls (6 votes, 136 points)
Blindfold EP (1991)
Youtube

My top mark because it's the essence of the genre - where it came from (goth, distortion, prettiness) and where it might've gone (beats, raps, killer tunes). It brought the strands together in a knot that held for only a gorgeous moment.

- Ismael Klatta

I have a recording of a 1998 show where Toni does the rap in this and it's completely ridiculous and awesome.

- Elvis in Telecom

http://littlepatchofyellowwall.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/talk_talk-spirit_of_eden.jpg
46. Talk Talk - I Believe in You (6 votes, 137 points)
Spirit of Eden (1988)
Youtube

Was away in the land of no internet when voting was happening. Good work so far though chaps!

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/s/slowdive/album-just-for-a-day.jpg
45. Slowdive - Catch The Breeze (7 votes, 139 points)
Just For A Day (1991)
Youtube

Magical. This was the second CD I ever bought – after Nowhere. I played it very loudly with all the lights off when my parents
were out of the house.

- kraudive.

Eno and Blur are tied according to your posts. Is this right?

I never really got into Slowdive even though I liked what I heard and even thought they were really good when I saw them open for Ride. I dunno, I guess I was getting my daily quotient of shoegaze back then. I need to rectify that.

Dammit. No. Eno is supposed to have 5 votes, 135 pts.

ok

Also while we're at it:

71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]

That should be "5 votes" not 4.

Ironic that Blur ended up placing on a "shoegaze" poll when it was their actual manager who coined the term "shoegazing" as a disparaging term describing everything that Blur emphatically were *not* WRT the Scene That Celebrates Itself.

http://curve-online.co.uk/images/discography/official/zl75257.jpg
44. Curve - Horror Head (4 votes, 140 points)
Doppelganger (1992)
Youtube

Huh. How have I never heard "Horror Head" before? Suprised at how similar to "Fait Accompli" it sounds.

(Except a bit dreamier)

nice - finally, one of my #1s places! (I had several #1 tracks on my ballot)

i don't think my curve vote is gonna make it :(

NFI if mine will, I'd forgot I even included them til I went back and checked just now.

And I guess no Engineers is gonna poll at all at this point :(

OMG, Horror Head is still one of my favourite tracks ever. Again, it's that counterpoint of utter darkness and lush textured beauty, this huge undercurrent of danger and sexual menace running underneath the prettiness of shoegaze that gets left out in later interpretations.

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/galaxie500_onfire.jpg
43. Galaxie 500 - Blue Thunder (5 votes, 142 points)
On Fire (1989)
No Youtube...

Are Galaxie 500 seriously underground or are they very strict on CC? The youtubes barely seems to know them.

http://www.roughtrade.com/site/product_images/306187L.jpg
42. Loop - Black Sun (6 votes, 143 points)
Fade Out (1988)
Youtube: Black Sun + Afterglow

does this mean no Bailter Space? -snif-

(voted Black Sun)

xxp - no, their flag has risen pretty much consistently since they got the Rykodisc retrospective treatment ten years ago or so. Kinda weird about the Youtube thing.

Not looking right now and even if I was I couldn't tell you but I remember receiving a couple of ballots with Bailter Space 'X' on them.

Are Galaxie 500 seriously underground or are they very strict on CC? The youtubes barely seems to know them.

several of their proper videos used to be up, probably record co interference brought them down

xp: It's weird alright. Only thing I can find of them on the youtubes are live recordings and cover versions by youtube users.

xxp it got nominated like 3 times...

Alright final track of the day and there's no youtube for it. Can you guess which band it is!?

Revolver?

Mudhoney!

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/galaxie500_thisisourmusic.jpg
41. Galaxie 500 - Listen, the Snow Is Falling (6 votes, 146 points)
This Is Our Music (1990)
No youtube: Yoko Ono's Original

lol

Bummed "Horror Head" was so low. That was one of my four #1's.

What's all this G500 doing in this poll btw? Makes about as much sense as Teenage Fanclub or Spacemen 3.

^^

love G500 but don't get why they're here

100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]
99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]
98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]
97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]
96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]
95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]
94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]
93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]
92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]
91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]
90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]
89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]
88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]
87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]
TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]
TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]
85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]
84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]
83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]
82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]
81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]

80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]
79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]
78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]
77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]
76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]
75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]
TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]
TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]
73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]
72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]
71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 5 votes]
70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]
69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]
68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]
67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]
66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]
65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]
64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]
63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]
62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]
61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]

60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]
59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]
58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]
57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]
56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]
55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]
54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]
53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]
52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]
51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]
50. LOOP "Arc-Light (Sonar)" (1989) [132 points, 5 votes]
49. BLUR "Sing" (1991) [134 points, 5 votes]
48. BRIAN ENO "Here Come the Warm Jets" (1974) [135 points, 5 votes]
47. CURVE "10 Little Girls" (1991) [136 points, 6 votes]
46. TALK TALK "I Believe in You" (1988) [137 points, 6 votes]
45. SLOWDIVE "Catch the Breeze" (1991) [139 points, 7 votes]
44. CURVE "Horror Head" (1992) [140 points, 4 votes]
43. GALAXIE 500 "Blue Thunder" (1989) [142 points, 5 votes]
42. LOOP "Black Sun" (1988) [143 points, 6 votes]
41. GALAXIE 500 "Listen, the Snow Is Falling" (1990) [146 points, 6 votes]

Of their material, tho, I at least think "Blue Thunder" should qualify

Still (STILL!) can't believe only 3 other people voted for "Horror Head". One of ILM's greatest threads ever is sort of about that song.

Oh how times change.

I didn't even notice that "Here Come the Warm Jets" was nominated. That's what happens when you vote in a rush, etc. It's probably my favourite Brian Eno song.

Every track from #60-#41 is a winner (I voted for six of them)

Yeah sorry that would be 4 other people if I'd got my shit together and voted :(

xpost

only 3 from the last 20, making my grand total = 11

Reading the responses here is like overhearing people trying to decided which bands are punk or metal. I didn't realize dream pop/shoegaze fans were so militant.

For me, dream pop includes a lot of early Siouxsie and the Cure, and it certainly includes the Sugarcubes. If I'd seen the nominations thread I would have nominated a lot of stuff which, seemingly, would have proven controversial to a bunch of you lot.

for me, it's just to stop the poll options being ridiculously unwieldy. i like almost all of what's been nominated but when 'easter theatre' was nominated it felt like things had gotten a bit silly

3 for me too, bringing me to 5. Though I only voted for 28 tracks & frontloaded my ballot w/ those of my favorites which I thought had the potential to score highly, so I imagine the days to come will yield more returns.

I think Mudhoney was where I drew the line. I mean I fucking love Mudhoney, I like them more than pretty much every other band nominated, but shoegaze/dream pop, errr??

nominated 25. 4 picks have come up so far

I remain baffled that Loop were nominated, on the same kick, CP. They're psych/drone, theyre not shoegaze by ANY stretch. Thats liek saying Suicide are shoegaze i mean come on.

Reading the responses here is like overhearing people trying to decided which bands are punk or metal. I didn't realize dream pop/shoegaze fans were so militant.

For me, dream pop includes a lot of early Siouxsie and the Cure, and it certainly includes the Sugarcubes. If I'd seen the nominations thread I would have nominated a lot of stuff which, seemingly, would have proven controversial to a bunch of you lot.

― Kent Burt

Siouxsie and the Cure got nominated and voted for, I think I even voted for them. The Sugarcubes is closer to 'post-punk' than 'dream pop' at least I think the band seemed fashionably closer to punk than pop. I'm willing to say The Sundays border on dreampop, the Sugarcubes definitely dont.

"Mission From God" is where it's at for Curve.

Siouxsie and the Cure got nominated and voted for, I think I even voted for them.

I was surprised there weren't more selections from both is all - and earlier stuff. I see them as the inventors of this so-called genre (Happy House, Israel, Fireworks, A Forest, The Drowning Man, etc.) - especially The Glove project from Smith/Severin.

How "Birthday" is not dream pop I will never understand.

Agree the whole "Just One Kiss" / "This Green City" phase is predictive of a lot of subsequent material stylistically, but I suspect very few people really listened to those records.

""Mission From God" is where it's at for Curve."

--this is true. Only 'catch the breeze' from the last bunch made it to my ballot. i guess my idea of the all time greats is different from everyone else's.

"Lillies Dying" was good too, little bit industrial in there.

little bit industrial in there. - I too like that aspect of their sound, esp. when they kept it reigned into the rhythm tracks (metallic kick-drum sounds & ominous synth bass etc.) & still went all 'gaze guitars & breathy vox over top of it. Some of their later stuff is a little too NIN for their strenghts imo.

Cuckoo is an underrated album & has both elements coexisting throughout.

"Mission from God" is indeed a great track as well. Actually, I had a difficult time choosing b/w that & HH as my Curve song to really get behind.

I just assumed that, of the two, HH would stand a better chance of placing highly. tbh I'm surprised it came in as low as it did, given the outpouring of ILX love it got in ^ that thread). I figured it had top-ten potential even. Didn't it win a Doppelganger poll as well?

While utterly brilliant in more or less every way, 'I Believe In You' is the weakest track on Spirit Of Eden

I ended up pouring a lot of votes into "Fait Accompli" and "Perish"

Curve's "Perish" & Kevin Shields

No Lilys yet huh? Should have voted.

lilys got some votes from me, but probably not enough points to get em in. probably shoulda ordered my ballot in hindsight

'cause feb 14 would have been #1

I would have given many points to Claire Hates Me. Love that song more than anything on that list.

Goodness. I'd got to thinking 'Ten Little Girls' might win this, it looks like the peak of the genre from here. I'm surprised their other tracks get so much love, they're obviously one of those bands who loaded everything into their first shot and suffered diminishing returns afterwards because they had nowhere else to go. Still good like, but they were only ever going to make one stunning record and it was this. I totally understand why it got everyone so excited.

7 out of about 34 for me now.

interesting, 'cause 10 little girls isn't even in my curve top 20.

^ yeah, this.

Actually, I take that back. Listening to it now, I think it could probably worm its way in to my Curve top 20. But it's not one of the ones I ever reach for first.

Did you hear them at the time or get into them later? As I recall, the first eps were received ecstatically but the feeling from then on was 'more of the same'. It's certainly how I feel about them, but I can see how it might be different if you don't have that to colour your view.

interesting, 'cause 10 little girls isn't even in my curve top 20.

Thirded

I heard Doppelganger first, then the Pubic Fruit compilation. Actually, Doppelganger was in the first batch of cds I ever bought after I got my first cd player in 1992. (Doppelganger, the Shakespeare's Sister album, and AC/DC's Back in Black...viva variety!)

Ten Little Girls is in my top Curve top ten, maybe even my top five. I didn't vote for it in this poll though (I voted for two other songs that haven't shown up yet).

Okay, looking forward to seeing everyone's lists in the shakedown now.

Shoegaze poll effect observed in the wild: Trayce, yr in my neighbours.

^ oops, in last.fm

Oh rly? Who you on lastfm?

Wait nm found yer.

:)

I don't know that I've ever heard the original of Listen Snow Is Falling. (or if I had, it was so long ago I had forgotten it) But <3 <3 <3

I don't even think this poll has anything to do with shoegaze any more, it's just "a cluster of songs that people who tend to like one, they like the other" with no regards to genre, really.

"yer" is a bizarre transliteration if you are an american

How?

I'm just assuming it's supposed to be pronounced like "ya" and not w/heavy american rhoticism??

"10 Little Girls" is the only Curve song I voted for, they're far from my favourite shoegaze band anyway.

I don't think people have been militant enough! The fact that something by Blur gets more votes than, say, "Off Your Face" in a shoegaze poll is crazy. But, y'know.