Nicki Minaj - Pink Friday

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http://www.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nickicover-475x475.jpg

smh/lmao @ the cover

Awful.

That warped stretchy leg thing is for real?

Also, no arms?

i just tweeted that i couldn't tell whether that's meant to be really weird body modification or just bad photoshopping. surely the former? no arms, extra-long legs...what's the relevant sci-fi film reference, there must be one.

is "massive attack" going to be on this? that's the only single i love so far. "check it out" and "your love" aren't even listenable :(

no massive attack isn't on it

I like her latest single "right thru me," pretty much her most honest/lacking-in-pretense song since "autobiography"/"can you hear me" it's like a real life version of "your love"'s fairy tale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLjxnKixyaA

naw dudes it's just really funny

Had them rip my arms out the socket. Detachable arms cuz arms r for common folk. #itspinkfridayhoe *dead*
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Holy shit, "Right Thru Me" samples Joe Satriani! 14 year-old me's tastes are colliding with 36 year-old me's tastes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM

im guessing she's trying to look like a barbie? is that it?

omg

love her

xps re arms

i like "right thru me" quite a bit, but...idk, i felt that nicki's ability to be a RAPPER at the same time as a POP STAR was one of the things that made her pretty special in today's climate, and it's a bit sad to see no evidence of that in her solo career proper apart from the failed first single (which is still leagues better than the slush that's followed it)

yeah the further "Massive Attack" recedes into the distance of practically never having existed, the more I appreciated as a better representation of her stilted cartoon swag than the shits she's been releasing since then. you wouldn't think it'd be that hard to translate Nicki's schtick into a Missy-style goofy hit, but she's struggling with it.

the image of her on this cover is super dope but the rest is pretty much shit, from font on up

gis gives me like 6 different covers, which one should i be looking at?

http://thatgrapejuice.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/nicki-minaj-pink-friday-e1287158467502.jpg

what are those lines at the top??

now i have to ponder which disappoints me more: the squandered potential of nicki as a rapper or the squandered potential of this cover

The no-arms thing is pretty cool. I have no problems with the font. But those bars at the top of the photo are pointless. I know there would be too much wasted space without them, but they're still pointless.

if they were worried about space they could've had her flush along the bottom of the image w/ the title in different font up top

the lines kind of look like blinds, or shop shutters about to come down? like she's in a window display. they could have made a bit more effort if that's what they were going for though.

yeah i could see that -- i feel like that would've been a doper motif, tho maybe a bigger budget would've been called for -- as it stands now it looks like the image of her as barbie got shopped onto a wedding invitation

dope cover, but legs are a little too big imo

looks like pink has an album called nicki minaj friday

lol

http://www.korean-drama-guide.com/images/soory-i-love-you-banner.jpg

she's on the cover of out. good article.

anyone else see her present an award on the BET Hip Hop Awards? wow that was painful.

the legs are supposed to be absurdly long though & it's a hilarious cover

anyone else see her present an award on the BET Hip Hop Awards? wow that was painful.

― underrated bobos I have honked (some dude), Saturday, October 16, 2010 10:22 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

how about the acceptance speech?

not nearly as bad as her Mad TV sketch "multiple personalities" presenter schtick

i like 'right thru me'

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lol

i also liked the GOOD music freestyles aside from Common's

there was a lot of WORDPLAY

big yawn

who is cyhi da prince

he is lame

where does kanye find these people

he was probably working the door at a fashion show

did u hear about Kanye's new "fashion advisor"/"confidant"?

i'm jealous of him

what does he think about wearing running shoes as casual kicks i wonder

did u hear about Kanye's new "fashion advisor"/"confidant"?

― Pitchfork.com, a music recommendation Web site (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:05 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm jealous of him

― truly blunted rhyme fiend (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:16 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because you want to haves the bum sex with kanye?

"bum sex"

cyhi da prince sounds like everything deej says about pill

ha

what i say of pill applies to a lot of rappers. not sure why pill is so much better than this dude

cyhi da prince is a smarmy punchline rapper -- the big yawn from atlanta -- pill is just a trap rapper archetype who will drop a grocery bag or two -- also pill has dope lyrics on his first mixtape -- i can't even imagine a cyhi da prince song

archetype, cliche, potato, potahto

yeah... i'm saying that cyhi isn't an archetype or a cliche... he's just straight up garbage

youre talking abt degrees of boring that i dont care to parse

i find that hard to believe

i also liked the GOOD music freestyles aside from Common's

― j. sargent & lil k3v (deej), Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought his was decent, but maybe that was just my low expectations. i wish the whole thing was as much of a trainwreck as Kanye's barely rhyming intro, Kid Cudi shoulda been there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLmlGwFaIt8

this is semi-dope

i semi-like it

so this song with her and eminem

what the fuck is this

weirdest shit ever

lots of grocery bagging

MANNING ELI

http://usershare.net/rsygggl112no

I do not need this kind of Eminem verse on a Nicki Minaj song at this point in my life.

I'll stick it to 'em like refrigerator magnets.

Fuck you, Eminem. That's almost as bad as NOW I KNOW WHY THEY CALL IT WINDOW PAIN. Fuck you.

not really. it's just a simile, not a meaningless pun. it's not good but not facepalmworthy either

If that's not facepalmworthy then I don't know what is.

HEY NICKI HEY NICKI... ASTHMA!!!

http://www.qwave.com/data/workout_data/carrying-groceries-up-stairs.jpg

hmmm...maybe i'll have to hear it outloud to understand its true awfulness

the swizz beat is incredible

holy shit "roman's revenge"

i'm sure i've seen her say that roman zolanski is her gay male alter ego which makes this entire track & eminem's presence extra sweet

i'm a bad bitch, i'm a CUNT
and i'll kick that ho - PUNT

OVERSEAS
CHURCH
VATICAN

i love "blow your mind" too. feeling muuuuuch better about this album now

I only roll with originators/ Chicks stick to my dick like magnets on refrigerators

-Big L

RUH RUH LIKE A DUNGEON DRAGON

nicki shouting I'M A CUNT = the moment of 2010

Totally love "Check It Out." Five days ago, I don't think I'd ever heard of her.

"two peas and a tripod"

-_-

I liked it more when Busta Rhymes did it.

he made it a hot line she made it a hot song

YOU WANNA SLEEP ON ME? OVERNIGHT?!?!
I'M THE MOTHERFUCKIN BOSS - OVERWRITE
AND WHEN I PULL UP, *VROOOM* - MOTORBIKE
ALL MY NIGGAS GETTIN' BUCK - OVERBITE

I got buurrrrrrrrrzzzzzzzz

lex otm in his tumblr how this song redeems the grocery bag

but fuck that eminem verse is bad.

YOU AT A STAND
STILL
MANNEQUIN!

MANNNNNING ELI

everything besides rapping that this broad does/makes/puts her name on/weras is sooo wack

But you simply can't front on "The Moment of 2010."

have you guys heard this (wait until you get to the chorus):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP0t1hzzafw

I was excited about this album back in the Spring when Massive Attack came out but it's just too late now. I'm tired of the delays on commercial albums, especially in the Hip-Hop and R&B genres.

generally I agree with you but I think on the timing on this one is great, I mean her hype is pretty much at it's highest point now

that's pretty dope

congrats to nicki for getting upstaged by 2010 eminem

her "bottoms up" verse is still the best thing she's been on this year

I am so, so very sick of seeing that wacky facial expression that is even captured in the YouTube still/grab right up there.

^^^^^that :( I mean I love it really but it's ALL. SHE. EVER. DOES.

i've warmed up to wacky Nicki a bit as serious Nicki has emerged more and more -- her 2 big solo hits are both some of the worst rap n bullshit love songs in recent memory and when she gives interviews in her 'real speaking voice' it sounds more stilted and unnatural than any of her zany rap voices

seriously don't get "your love" hate, but "right thru me" is terrible

would you say that if that song was a candy store you would be a todd-lore?

^_^

ha, i never even noticed that line.

fuiud the nicki face is awesome

I LOVE watching her make faces, but stills of them almost never work as well as seeing them actually change

did they turn "I Feel Pretty" into raaa raa dungeon dragon??? either way that song is sickkk

leaky leaky

i gotta admire the "shitted on em" song with massive farty synths -- if you're gonna do it, just go all the way -- altho it still pales in comparison to the gorilla zoe song

this is like 3 rap songs & 10 "right thru me"s

altho the whole album is worth it merely for excavating the corpse of 99 eminem

you mean on roman's revenge?

i do

hate that verse - two peas and a tripod UGH

oh c'mon it's a nicki minaj album that's not even gonna be in the top 10% groan worthy punchlines

I'm sure the "ruh, ruh, I'm a dungeon dragon" bit isn't meant to remind me of 'Walk The Dinosaur' by Was (Not Was), but it does.

this is another one spoiled by the modern malaise of endless moaning abt heavy burdens and haters and all the other pressures of a career YOU HAVENT EVEN HAD YET FFS, but on the plus side the sentimental softrock 80s vibe of the album is so consistent (dipsettish even) that fwiw it does kinda hold together and keep you involved - to the degree you're interested in being at least. okay for a guest-rapper's debut.

think she basically needs some alter-ego dressup/extinction level event type concept bullshit to play off next album.

http://imgur.com/S3HQz.gif

agreed with rtc that she sort of needs to a concept to roll with for the whole album

only half way thru my first listen right now so no concrete thoughts yet

"did it on 'em" is crazy though

yeah this is ok - considering what i feared i'm pretty satisfied. also, i suspect that the various bonus tracks will go much harder, just from the titles.

so many grocery bags

omg @ check it out - destroy will.i.am

somehow this is worse than sampling o-zone

"bonus tracks will go much harder" really sums up major label rap in 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7wXmpO-WQI&feature=player_embedded

If Nicki had emerged eight years ago, even four or five years ago, she'd have been amazing. As it is they've given her a debut album 3/4 full of complete slush. Destroy underwritten "stirring" rnb choruses in 2010.

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I wonder if Drake is mad at mefor this.

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/51699787/Nicki+Minaj+nicki+2.png

the bonus trax are predictably great

"muny"!!!!!

This album is awful. It's almost incomprehensible that this is the path she's chosen. Oh, well.

god it makes too much sense that the big pink sampling song was done by JR ROTEM -- what a fucker that guy is

this is better than every song on the album besides "roman's revenge"

Thought this was gonna be more liker her mixtapes. most of it's:

DJ Sammy synth trance intro
Brief Nicki verse about haters / she's the best
"big" 2010 stirring/Rhianna/rock chorus with strings.
Repeat

Drake verse is about the best thing here. Eminem is an angry dick. Disappointing.

yeah this is a total slog to get through. her career arc kinda reminds me of jadakiss, sick guest verses but meh albums.

I made it through once, I don't know if I have the willpower to go through it again.

i gotta admire the "shitted on em" song with massive farty synths -- if you're gonna do it, just go all the way -- altho it still pales in comparison to the gorilla zoe song

― big smang theory (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, November 17, 2010 1:53 AM (3 days ago)

haha yes that zoe track is amazing

Yeah I'd much rather listen to the dope dope dope (but same-y?) Pilot Talk 2. YOUNG SPITTA!

...

Ya I thought I was in fruity swag. Otherwise I wouldn't have written this here hahaha.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/24/arts/music/24nicki.html?_r=2&src=dayp

thought the nyt review was pretty otm

also took me a while to realize 'kesha' was actually referring to ke$ha

guess the nyt style guide brooks no $

good article imo

yeah agree with it re: minaj, though i haven't heard - and will not go out of my way to hear - the ke$ha

though i'm not really disappointed as such with pink friday - i think maybe cuz my expectations dipped and fluctuated so much ahead of it, i'd definitely abandoned any hope of my dream minaj album that showcased everything i love about her happening, so i think i'm more relieved than anything that it's half-decent. what with the bonus trax there's definitely an acceptable album in here if you prune the more pointless songs, which is more than can be said for eg kanye west (and if we're talking about what an "interesting" "character" he is despite his album's flaws, how much more can that be said of nicki).

i'm the best
roman's revenge
did it on 'em
dear old nicki
super bass
blow ya mind
muny
girls fall like dominoes
catch me
wave ya hand

^^the keepers here

LOL at the NYT suggestion that we should consider Ke$ha a rapper now because she's no longer singing. Like she was singing before!

Good album. Nice balance between Nicki's pop side and her rapper side. (Like I'm an expert on that! OK, I like the balance between the two. If it had been all one or all the other, it could have been a bit of a chore to listen to the whole record in one go.) Superb use of samples too. I think I got more joy from the first listen to this than from any other 2010 pop album I've heard so far.

No bonus tracks on the copy I bought :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImpqbT47Ugg

such an awful diss track

http://girlboymusic.tumblr.com/post/1983183843/when-youre-a-girl-you-have-to-be-everything

probably the best take on what's going on with this album so far, courtesy of a regular Jukebox contributor

how does it rectify the gender politics with the fact that the music is creatively bankrupt horsecrap

didn't suggest that it made me LIKE the album more than i do - i think it's still largely disappointing given the level of raw talent and potential nicki has, although there are four-ish tracks i like ok on this, and adding in massive attack and one or two of the bonus tracks it makes for a decent EP.

lyrically she spends way too long talking about the gender politics and not enough time actually doing them. aside from the production, she doesn't even break out the voices on two-thirds of the album, and she never switches up mid-song. which...what is the point of that?

still maintain it's not a bad album for what it is - there are enough bloody tracks that piecing together a decent mini-album from them is easy. fuck the record buying public for making "massive attack" a flop and "your love" a hit though.

I will trust you if you tell me to get it but is there anything even remotely as good as "keys under palm trees"???

depends how you intend to get it, it only becomes worth getting when you take the 6 bonus trax into account (two of which - the best two! - are only available to non-americans like us if downloaded illegally anyway)

"keys under palm trees" is maybe the most underrated nicki song, soooo vibes

Yeah that's the one I always go back to, I always get surprised by how emotional the ending makes me.

it always surprises me how blasé nicki is on record about doing coke - like even on "girls fall like dominoes" on pink friday, when she describes her ideal woman one of her qualities is "she can sniff up a ton"

like it's par for the course for rappers to rap about doing weed and e on record, and about dealing coke obv, but how many actually go there re: doing coke? (and on a couple of lines that i assume are just nicki BSing, heroin too o_0 )

seems sore common lately although i can't think of examples atm

coke is so expensive!

(and on a couple of lines that i assume are just nicki BSing, heroin too o_0 )

why would you assume this?

probably just because heroin isn't the kind of drug one can use casually without it noticeably effecting a professional life that involves writing and recording on a daily basis and constant public appearances with wig/outfit changes?

o_0 at having to ask that ilxor

also the line i was thinking of is "got some heroin, wanna go dancing?" and while i cop to a certain lack of expertise re: smack, i've never heard of it being used as a dancing drug

unless you're gonna move it like bernie

also the line i was thinking of is "got some heroin, wanna go dancing?" and while i cop to a certain lack of expertise re: smack, i've never heard of it being used as a dancing drug

hahaha okay now that IS bizarre!

The bonus tracks are way better than most of the album. She should just stick to pitched-up dancehall samples, rave synths and air raid sirens and ignore all other production styles ever.

Khia gives the album a review, to hilarious results

http://www.motormouf.com./

<3 <3 khia

but her trina one was the classic, really - her heart doesn't even seem wholly into this one

oh i do love her really - http://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/11825297380872192

she got her minaj à trois for her bday!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bH0QQ5tlXL4/TQJHm7hU9jI/AAAAAAAAAPU/X_FaXSapGMU/s1600/x2_3b2a878.jpeg

Could Cassie be more stunning?! I can't even see the other two.

i thought it was funny that kelenna from dirty morning is sporting a partially shaved head now

lol, dirty morning

i need to go to bed

haha..that was excellent.

Nicki Minaj: Weezy :: Da Brat: Snoop

Nicki is more a bargain bin Da Brat than Da Brat was a bargain bin Snoop

this album is really fucking boring

i got the version with the bonus tracks and of course those are some of the best tracks on the album, but all of the boring cookie cutter emo pop tracks are stacked on top of each other so I have to skip 7 tracks to get to another decent one.

I don't mind her going more pop for her debut but at least it could ahve been interesting. faux-poignant pop with cliche lyrics, meh

the "Moment 4 Life" beat is so dope but ugh her singing

yea way prefer her mixtapes

My sister has been playing "Right Thru Me" pretty much 24/7 since she moved back here. :(

i haven't listened to this yet but my roommate did & apparently it's all inspirational "i made it u can 2" music for teenage girls -- is it true? & lol if so

yes

that angle kinda redeems it!

a lot of this album has grown on me - once you ignore the really egregious shit there's a lot of stuff i genuinely enjoy listening to. even "moment 4 life"!

^i agree with this. and 'super bass' has slowly become one of my favorites from her

just sayin that "Did it On Em" is a queer club party anthem out here.

"did it on em" is amazing. YOU AIN'T MY SON YOU MY MUHHFUKKIN STEPSON

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lhyk7oqSaB1qzw3gpo1_500.jpg

taylor swift rapping "super bass" - adorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSSwUzdk8rU

in other news i fucking love "super bass" right now - just a perfect candy pop song

^ omg that was so great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JipHEz53sU

So. Video isn't as amazing as it could have been, but I'm glad that her team have finally realized that all of the genuinely GOOD SONGS are on the bonus tracks and started releasing them, especially since this is a perfect summer jam.

I love how the first two or three couplets are at like 100 mph, kinda wish she went 'beatless' or 'acapella' (if that's the term) longer, kinda disappointed when the beat kicks in tbh

pepto bismol fight is kinda dnw tho

i agree this is a perfect summer jam. i think this is her first single with kinda corny pop-ish production that's been any good (as opposed to, say, "right thru me" which sucked) - and it's actually REALLY good. it will be an impt song in many middle school girls' lives.

weird i love the video

the "moment 4 life" production is even cornier than this (tho not as poppy) & it is pretty great

something loose & casual everyone seems really happy in it & the choreography isnt too tight or srs

ok nvm i loved "moment 4 life" too

i like the video too, it's not trying to be anything it's not

teledyldonix otm

"moment 4 life" was okay but nowhere near the perfect pop moment that "super bass" is - actually it took taylor loving it to make me realise that "super bass" is basically all about capturing pretty much exactly what taylor does on "you belong with me", "love story", "fearless", "hey stephen", that all-consuming thrill of a crush.

Oh no why is she fucking with a pool of Ghostbusters 2 slime??

It's Pepto Bismol. Clearly.

the "moment 4 life" production is even cornier than this (tho not as poppy) & it is pretty great

― J0rdan S., Sunday, May 15, 2011 2:12 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

the lyrics/video make that song corny but the "Moment 4 Life" beat itself is like the illest beat on rap radio in the past year

like if any male rapper had done a non-R&Bish song on that beat people would be putting it on year end lists no doubt

it would still be close to mine but as i've said before (i think in TSJ comments actually) the song is just structured really weird, it kinda falls off a cliff after drake's verse (btw BY FAR his best verse ever)

yeah it's totally a high point for drake and nicki's kinda dead weight by comparison

okay i'm just saying:

i was driving across the Bay Bridge in early July, on my way to meet my man-friend who was making me dinner, and "Super Bass" came on, and so of course I turned it up REALLLY LOUD.

and then i involuntarily started crying. the production is soooo cheesy and beautiful that it actually made me weep.

sue me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtTPq4dS5tM

my <3 is going to explode

lol @ nicki censoring herself for taylor's tween audience

^^best thing ever. we talked about that on the taylor thread.

"super bass" is my single of the year, basically

i just love imagining taylor rapping "HE MIGHT SELL COKE" when she's doing it in her bedroom though

yes on "Super Bass"

however she just released the album's worst song as a single.

the opening of super bass is such a headrush, like the first big dip in a rollercoaster. I do wish nicki would go acapella for a few more bars before the beat kicks in.

lol @ nicki's heels being twice as high as taylor's but still getting midget-ized

also I don't think she knows how to dance or maybe it's the heels

yeahh i figured it had been on ilx before but it seemed apposite and it didn't seem to be in this thread

similarly, this picture:

http://style.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/nicki-minaj-anna-wintour.jpg

is that margot tenenbaum

<3 that picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7hTAp6KrGY

Hilarious. Also, Sophia and Rosie are the most British children ever. Sounded like Lady Sov! Heh.

<3 <3

waikikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUSWW2EkcuQ

finally, someone with a proper british accent does nicki minaj

I keep telling myself I'll eventually listen to this album.

just skip to the bonus tracks.

throw some shade if you look good

lol @ the idea of rev losing sleep because he still hasn't listened to pink friday

lol @ ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass

awful song, great and hilarious nicki minaj verse

bad bitches i'm your leader
venom by the metre
somebody point me to the best ass eater

agh I just had that ASS bit open in two separate windows

^do not take out of context

every time i hear that song i get mad that big sean got a beat that good

is it even that good? he definitely kills whatever energy it might've had, & it really picks up during her verse, but idk it seems dumb

the sped up hammer sample is pretty dope imo

lol @ the idea of rev losing sleep because he still hasn't listened to pink friday

― alan2dyk (some dude), Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:53 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Naw, not at all, just idly thinking to myself I should every once in a while.

I mean, if I really did care that strongly, I would have by now.

Seriously rev all u need to hear are the following:

Super Bass
Muny
Blow Ya Mind
Catch Me
Wave Ya Hand
Roman's Revenge
Did It On Em

pink friday's highs - that tracks tim listed basically, maybe throw "i'm the best" in there too cuz it seems important - are really, really high

the big sean song continues the tradition of nicki shining on otherwise awful songs but tbh i can see the whole ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS stuff becoming enjoyable in a "my humps" kind of way

i didn't even know that's what the song was originally called until today because the radio edit just goes DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE

what's kinda annoying is that waikiki isn't an island but i'm used to nicki getting her facts wrong by now

he definitely kills whatever energy it might've had, & it really picks up during her verse

the nicki verse is obv the highlight but i dunno if the big sean verses kill the song. after a couple listens (i'm real down with this song) i just skipped straight to the nicki verse and it didn't have quite the same punch. i don't really know big sean (first impressions: he seems annoyingly lethargic in the tradition of other G.O.O.D. princes and pushas) but i don't really mind his performance here. it's not great but it certainly doesn't kill the song.

re: ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS - i'm just happy someone took dj assault to the mainstream.

does any other rapper lean on the stutter-effect as much as nick does

bassline to @$$ sounds like gucci mane - candy lady

unless the candy lady beat is sampling some other famous well known beat

can't believe eminem didn't already do the 'anus/famous' rhyme yet

hearing the word "anus" was pretty shocking 2 me, even after the ass eater line

lol I didn't even get to Nikki's verse because the leaden ASS ASS ASS ASS part made me turn the song off

chris brown would also like to be pointed to the best ass eater

can't believe eminem didn't already do the 'anus/famous' rhyme yet

ke$ha did, actually

good try but you're not gonna get me to google 'ke$ha famous anus'

the world does not need any more Ke$ha goatse

figures, smh

nelly did it on the keri hilson album last year as well, managing to wreck one of that album's strongest tracks in a single line

i don't eve think nicki gets away with it here. pop stars shouldn't say the word "anus". NO ONE should say that word "anus"

*even
*the

look what that word is doing to my typing

what you're saying, is there's no onus to say anus for anyone

The obvious rhyming word is heinous anyways.

heinous anus
dinked 'er sphincter
wrecked, um, rectum

i just went for a run, anyway, and around the 7k mark "ass ass ass ass ass ass" repeating in my head was basically keeping my rhythm

ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass

what is this song doing to me

http://open.spotify.com/track/70W4DBX8YjGoShSGxicDTG

here you go

ha i <3 dj assault, wish this nicki verse was on that

big sean really is the fucking WORST

he sucks all the oxygen out of everything

including ass?

it is quite possibly the least enthusiastic 'ass' I have ever heard

your ass would be unenthusiastic too if big sean sucked all the oxygen out of it

I just saw the video for some song off this with her and rhianna, really fucking dire. Drake killed hiphop

pop stars shouldn't say the word "anus". NO ONE should say that word "anus"

― lex pretend, Friday, 7 October 2011 11:17 (Yesterday) Bookmark

thats why its funny!

also lol @ "that word anus"

lex is so anal

anal lex

that word delmar

holy shit

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/nicki-minaj-w-cover.jpg?w=530&h=692

that's pretty awesome

except for the part where they made her a white person

but it is a fashion mag, so

i don't get that impression really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9573kGBtuE

awww!

I love how embarrassed nicki gets when the little girl raps the naughty bits

the naughty bits, right? that's what they say in Englund

there's been some discussion on cutecelsior

Aw, it's CUTECELSIOR! Post cutest messages from ILX.

there's enough cuteness to go around

in that w cover she looks like she has human-scale breats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxGPGhO0dmI

:(

"you know i really got a thing for christ-centred guys" :(

hahahaha

"this one is for the guys with the BIBLES"

:D

as a godless heathen, this is making me way happier than it should

!!!

Wow.

thank u bass god

haven't seen this on here yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM&ob=av2e

Yeah. This is totally nuts. Specifically this:

http://i41.tinypic.com/wmfp5h.png

Nicki Minaj: Animorph.

Was gonna post it but I don't know if I like it or not.

Yeah, I don't know what to think. I definitely find some of it annoying, but maybe I'm getting old.

i like it!

i love the song and video! reminds me of gabber techno! http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

was sorta lukewarm on the song but the video kinda really sold me, even tho some of it is a rip of of "countdown"

but yeah this song is kinda the shit

well every other song on urban radio now has that stilted, stomping clap/snare rhythm

one of the songs to really predict that trend was soulja boy's "donk," which nicki used for one of her biggest early mixtape tracks, so it kinda makes sense that she sounds in her element doing stuff like this and "dance (a$$)" i guess.

I would love to see those two toddlers from Ellen doing this.

the thing i like about this is that the insults are kind of understatedly bizarre -- "you lookin like a lab rat", starting off the second verse by addressing the other person as if they're actually bubbles the monkey, "who's gassin this ho? BP?" -- idk it goes pretty hard, and isn't all grocery bag'd up like "did it on em"

This is good. The bit in the video clip where her eyes are really massive is probably going to stalk my dreams though.

aren't her eyes always that way?

video made me think of that classic j0rdan post comparing nicki's creepy voices to suddenly realizing you're watching some kind of surreal fetish porn

This is her first solo song that I like.

how much time does Nicki spend rapping using the voice kids use to say "vroom vroom" these days?

This reminds me of TINAT-era Missy.

at this point the "me on my pedal bike" baby voice barely registers on her top 5 most boner-shrivelingly unsettling vocal tics

love this song so much, that video is a total mess tho

also this song gets much better if you imagine that she's dissing azealia banks

also this btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgcvdsCIflg

xp hahahaha

WAU at that juke rewurq.

my favorite thing about it is how just when you keep expecting it to go on with those disjointed footwork beats for the duration, it hits with that big 4x4 drop and just explodes.

the funny thing was how quick on the draw that remix was. it popped up a day or two after the original.

Oh fuck this rewerq

This will be getting a lot of play 'round these parts.

'Stupid Hoe' officially improves after drinks...

one of the songs to really predict that trend was soulja boy's "donk," which nicki used for one of her biggest early mixtape tracks, so it kinda makes sense that she sounds in her element doing stuff like this and "dance (a$$)" i guess.

― @51TimesNo (some dude), Saturday, January 21, 2012 3:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

hahah I was gonna post that 'donk' was the forerunner of this and a$$ but felt I would get gunned on by the goon crew

apparently this is the "stupid hoe" producer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Kuts

pretty interesting

that's def a CGI leg she's holding in the first part of the video

this song is awesome, I've decided

First listen: this song is awesome, best thing she's put out in the last year. Nice to see some different voice-pastiches getting thrown into her Batman toolbelt here - particularly, I don't think I've heard the thing she does around 1:55 forward. It feels (to me) like she's verging into a wide set of real-life character impressions, like part of that could be Any Girl's Mom, and then the part that's Any Girl Practicing R&B Singing In Front Of The Mirror...I dunno. There's potential there.

I wish she would drop the candy-colored wig thing for just a little while - I love the look but I'm kind of into her dialing it down as this flattened-makeup, no-eyebrows thing she's doing in parts of this.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, January 21, 2012 10:10 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha what an amazing video. i think i love this song now (liked it before but not like, raving about it - it's lots of fun but as a straight-up rap song i don't think it matches up to the early mixtape stuff that well). tim is right that the massive-eyed warped nicki face is the most unsettling bit.

at this point the "me on my pedal bike" baby voice barely registers on her top 5 most boner-shrivelingly unsettling vocal tics

idk whether shipz meant "boner-shrivelingly unsettling vocal tics" in a good way or not but it's certainly a positive imo

all of this does make me sad that "massive attack" will forever be the Lost Minaj Single, it's still ridiculously good and better than any single since apart from "super bass"

all of this does make me sad that "massive attack" will forever be the Lost Minaj Single, it's still ridiculously good and better than any single since apart from "super bass"

^^^^

Though she oughtta released "Muny".

http://caribbeancelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Nicki-Minaj-Stupid-Hoe_4.jpg
http://ursispaltenstein.ch/blog/images/uploads_img/edge_species.jpg

argghghghgh make it stop

you realise those animals are regularly right outside my window, now i'm gonna think nicki's spirit animal is watching me

A GOOD THING surely

you have slow lorises in australia?! i didn't know that, i am kind of jealous. ridiculous creatures

one, two... *thinks*
do the nicki minaj blink

video is insane

I've never liked Nicki Minaj but Stupid Hoe is so so so good, and that juke jukewerk my goodness, I'm in heaven right now

proper descriptor is anime eyes btw

That song is like Missy + Gaga + Devo

the song itself (ignoring the video) is kind of like an attempt to recreate "itty bitty piggy" but not actually as amazing - i approve of the general direction though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZ5s7o2F88

i think rhyming "Roman Zolanski" with "Roman Polanski" might be the one misstep. But she's so talented, she's allowed. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

props for the 80s spelling of "hoe"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjSmiGMN1ek

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

i think rhyming "Roman Zolanski" with "Roman Polanski" might be the one misstep.

brangelina/jennifer reference is a bit #twothousandandlate too #no1curr

"bitch, you see where brad at" is kinda dope tho

who is the dude that shows up in the video a few times

dave cool, you seem to know a lot about hip hop http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

it's pretty cool, as music is concerned. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

"bitch, you see where brad at" is kinda dope tho

yeah it would've been a dope line in 2004 or whenever all of that actually happened

i think of a dated reference like i would a sample of a song i've forgotten. just because its not in the zeitgeist doesn;t mean its not dope to flip it. (cf, Biz Markie, "Reagan is the prez but i voted for Shirley Chisolm")

http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

idk, i feel like brad/angelina/jennifer refs have sort of transcended being just a pop cultural event w/ a time & place -- it's like referencing a fairy tale or something at this point

that might be the case if it wasn't for tabloids ceaselessly beating the dead horse over the years - i'm just tired of hearing all their names - like referencing britney/justin or something might have that effect, idk

i think its a pretty nitpicky point, lex, but i always respect your passion and opinions on ilx. http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

Is she dissing lil kim in this?

People say so, but I don't see any specific Kim references to indicate shots fired... Who knows?

And yeah, this is definitely very "Itty Bitty Piggy" and not quite as incredible, but after the direction Pink Friday took overall (in part by commercial necessity), it's good to see Nicki signalling that this is at least PART of what she's going to be doing going forward.

I guess I thought the party about you should have befriended me seemed like a shot at kim...cuz didn't nicki basically say she idolized kim coming up then kim was bitchy to her?

is kim putting out an EP? is any notable minaj adversary?

tbh it may or may not be consciously about kim but i'm pretty sick of the narrative that sets EVERY WOMAN IN HIP-HOP against each other

Well I mean I don't think we are buying into a narrative here, kim and nicki have berg and she just released a song that sounds like a diss called ”super hoe” so...

Have beef not berg

curious why the bubbles/mj reference passes lex's sniff test -_-

surely this is aimed at kim at least partly -- "stupid hoe shoulda befriended me, and she coulda probly came back"

the only part i don't like is "I AM THE FEMALE WEEZY" :(

^^^ yeah, that line bothers me too

Also this line:

"Bitch talkin she the queen when she looking like a lab rat"

Definitely seems directed at Lil Kim, and that's how it's already being interpreted anyway.

Yeah, thats where I picked it up, figured the "queen" was a "Queen Bee" reference.

i really think that regardless of nicki's intentions it's far more interesting to talk about how the song works (or not) as though it's not about lil kim, because ~catfights~ between female rappers are not their sole point of interest

(it pisses me off that nicki's apparently bought into that narrative too. NO ONE FUCKING DOES IT TO UP-AND-COMING MALE RAPPERS.)

I'm not so sure I agree with that lex, lots of writers try to force narratives on X vs Y when rappers are coming out. Of course its not at the annoying "catfight" level as it is with the female rappers, but critics definitely do try to fill in these neat little narratives of Young Rapper X is gunning at Old Rapper Y's spot.

and how often do they do that vis-à-vis the number of emerging male rappers? once in a while?

EVERY post-nicki female rapper has had the "ooooh she's coming for nicki's crown" narrative foisted on them AT ALL TIMES. male rappers can diss unnamed rivals in their songs without people going "is it about X or Y?" but when az banks comes out with "212" it MUST be about nicki.

also why is this a point that people want to argue? IT'S REALLY OBVIOUS THAT THIS HAPPENS. nnnnghhhhhhhhh don't fucking try to argue otherwise just to pick an argument with me.

or should we just agree that there's no sexism or clichés about how female rappers are covered anywhere, at all

I get what you are saying lex, but I do think it happens wrt male rappers much more than you are giving credit. How many times did stuff like "oooh that must be a Em diss" or "he's totally going for Jigga there" come up? Quite a bit, iirc.

I'm not arguing with you! I agree, and its frustrating. It just DOES happen with male rappers too.

i'm saying it doesn't happen by default and ALL THE TIME with EVERY NEW SONG THEY MAKE to male rappers.

and it's never used in the service of the "there can only be one existent female rapper at any given time" belief, or as a means of avoiding treating her like an artist in her own right/addressing her songs in their own right.

so in addressing nicki's songs in their own right we should just ignore all the lines about calling out other female rappers

dayo i think EVERY time you have talked to me here in the past, like, month, you've been trying to troll me or argue with me. please don't? it's tiring.

sure thing bro

i really think that regardless of nicki's intentions it's far more interesting to talk about how the song works (or not) as though it's not about lil kim, because ~catfights~ between female rappers are not their sole point of interest

I dunno Lex, I take the point above. But agree with dayo, it's still a real aspect to how the track has been talked about and received, so I don't think it shouldn't ignored either. I also don't understand why it has to be an argument?

male rappers can diss unnamed rivals in their songs without people going "is it about X or Y?"

i really don't agree w/ this at all, and it's one thing about rap blogs that really pisses me off -- ppl have been picking thru wayne and drake and kanye and jay lines trying to make up beefs b/w them for years and years now

and even on a micro level, ppl will pick thru lines by smaller rappers from the same city wondering if they're going at each other

which isn't to say that there isn't some truth to what you're saying, lex, but you're way overstating your case

While it's pathetic that (male) listeners still define female performers on male terms, guys have dissed each other practically since the genre was created (KRS-1, LL Cool J, 50 Cent, etc).

I would agree with all of this if the song weren't called 'stupid hoe' and the chorus wasn't 'you a stupid hoe'

tbh I didn't think much about the title and to whom it's directed.

I didn't really think about (or care) at who the song is directed, but I'm not gonna act like nicki had no part in framing the debate around this song

There's definitely a difference between people reading into to subliminals and vague, general/generic disses that male rappers fit into every song, and people constructing rivalries between every female rapper and pitting all female rappers against eachother (which they do ALL OF THE TIME WITHOUT FAIL). though, in this case, the song is clearly about Lil Kim and Kim & Nicki have been vocal about their "beef" (though obv this beef started because Kim is insecure about her place in rap given Nicki's ascendancy and the fact there can't be more than one active female rapper for some reason)

I agree w/ lex's argument in general and would agree w/ no qualifications if the debate around 'super bass' or even, to use a stronger example, massive attack had been shoehorned into this narrative but please don't act like nicki wasn't complicit in setting the goalposts for 'stupid hoe'

I don't put much cop into the mercenary nature of these "beefs."

Of course, they are much more "promotional" than "mercenary" in nature.

also, the chorus is uncomfortable to listen to - like really uncomfortable. I like almost everything else about the song, but I don't think I'll be listening to it much

the only part i don't like is "I AM THE FEMALE WEEZY" :(

― teledyldonix, Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

this part bothers me too cuz the way I read it, she's comparing herself to a male standard of rap - like she would never be able to declare herself the best rapper alive, but only the best rapper alive* with a footnote

does anybody have a more generous reading of this line?

*female

nothing more generous, but it comes from here. seems thoroughly unnecessary tacked onto the end of "stupid hoe" like that. worth noting that the opening couplet of birdman's verse is fucking amazing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHgOvf7710k

man, i really love nicki minaj

that's how i read that line too & exactly what i don't like about it, xp

it's almost as obvious that dayo is otm here as it is that lex is, that is why the culture is so :(

lex isn't RONG so much as thick for realizing why this is the worst possible song to make that particular point about. also smh at multiple people 'bringing up' the comparison to "Itty Bitty Piggy" as if that's not what i was talking about upthread ("one of the songs to really predict that trend was soulja boy's 'donk,' which nicki used for one of her biggest early mixtape tracks).

the SEXISM in that song is so thick it repulses me and there's a positively 4th street thing about it coming from a supposed "strong"/"independant" woman that makes it even worse.

video is plain sexploitation and the whole idea of women claiming the "stupid hoe" predicate seems wrong to me since it's adapting a repressive chauvinist lingo or whatever. maybe that's not how you experience it in america because blacks also for reasons i don't understand use racist slurs and that seems accepted but to me this whole thing is really weird.

figure it's a shame since nicki is a very talented mc.

people don't really like when you call black people "blacks" btw

sry

i feel stupid now :(

"syo sb, what the fucks good?
we ship platinum, them bitches are shipping wood"

"you sold platinum round the world, i sold wood in the hood"

video's great, track too, with dayo on the discomfort level

love the grace jones quotes

I wonder if the Stupid Hoe vid is slightly mocking the Lil' Kim pornbot schtick actually, or if that's purely just Nicki doing her own hyper-commodified pornbot Barbie thing. some of the creepier, exaggerated bits do kind of look like Lil' Kim parody

with lex on the awfulness of "i'm angelina, you jennifer". problem for me is that angelie vs. jennifer is some stupid fucking bullshit, and the less i hear about it, the better.

what shipz said about "boner-shriveling" is actually pretty pertinent to what nicki does, because she both plays up to a conventional hypersexualised schtick (see the "dance (a$$)" video) but also disrupts it with freakish body exaggerations. it's not exactly Taking A Stand but it's certainly fucking around with people's expectations (and boners). the slow loris face in the "stupid hoe" video exemplifies this. calling it "plain sexploitation" means you weren't watching it closely enough.

and then when she's on her knees in the cage the first thing i thought was that she was taking the piss but at the same time she's still on her knees in a cage so i guess she's trying to have her cake and eat it.

it's remarkable how many people appear to have never heard female rappers use the words "bitch" and "ho".

my favourite bit of the song is "these hoes is so busted, hoes is so crusty, these bitches is my sons and I DON'T WANT CUSTODY"

I can't quite tell where Nicki is coming from with the hypersexual/Barbie thing. like she's totally be embracing consumerism/commodification while also, it seems, knowingly portraying it all as scary/unreal/absurd

totally be embracing

it's remarkable how many people appear to have never heard female rappers use the words "bitch" and "ho".

question of degree, imo. chorus of endlessly repeated stupid hoes starts to feel like something tyler would do.

I wonder if the Stupid Hoe vid is slightly mocking the Lil' Kim pornbot schtick actually, or if that's purely just Nicki doing her own hyper-commodified pornbot Barbie thing.

the narcissism of no differences

@ lex i see now that "plain sexploitation" was a bad choice of words. i get that there's some kind of surreal aspect but i do not think it makes it subversive at all which maybe is also your point wrt cage scene.

i don't think there has been a female rapper with sales and explicit lyrics like this before but do school me if i'm wrong.

like she's totally be embracing consumerism/commodification while also, it seems, knowingly portraying it all as scary/unreal/absurd

this seems v otm

i don't really follow sales but is nicki really that much bigger than kim was in terms of profile? also you know missy was hella explicit at times, it's just that no one pigeonholed her as a "sexual" rapper b/c she didn't fit the image.

the funny thing is, in terms of how she approaches sex on record, nicki is far far more in line with missy than kim/trina, and since going "pop" has toned down a lot of that stuff.

It's hard for me to think of Minaj as a sexual rapper either tbh.

ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS ASS

the funny thing is, in terms of how she approaches sex on record, nicki is far far more in line with missy than kim/trina, and since going "pop" has toned down a lot of that stuff.

I hadn't thought about it before but this is true, she doesn't really seem to do tunes along the lines of "Hustlin" or "How Many Licks" or etc.

also you know missy was hella explicit at times, it's just that no one pigeonholed her as a "sexual" rapper b/c she didn't fit the image.

I was going to point you at the 34 million Google hits for "missy elliott sex" but all of them seem to be about her history as a survivor of sexual abuse.

Even though I remember her getting just as much pigeonholing as everyone else, if your statement is true it's likely because unlike Lil Kim/Trina/Foxy Brown/practically every other female rapper who hit in the late 90s, not all of Missy's singles were about how nasty she was in bed.

like she's totally be embracing consumerism/commodification while also, it seems, knowingly portraying it all as scary/unreal/absurd

― Chris S, Monday, January 23, 2012 3:05 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this seems v otm

― tinie tempurah (lex pretend), Monday, January 23, 2012 4:05 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, the use of sexuality, absurdity and distancing in the creation of a pop image reminds me somewhat of lady gaga, though minaj's persona is more limited by and to the "sex object" signifiers she plays with.

I can't quite tell where Nicki is coming from with the hypersexual/Barbie thing. like she's totally be embracing consumerism/commodification while also, it seems, knowingly portraying it all as scary/unreal/absurd

I think this is, like, EXACTLY how we're supposed to feel, and the reason I can't get excited about it.

nicki minaj is a million times funnier than lady gaga & about 2/3 as funny as missy

eh, different kinds of humor with different aims (re: minaj vs gaga)

this is getting pwnd on youtube in the like/dislike war

the bug-eyed baby minaj diva singing "stupid hoe" while standing on a giant chair is really the moment where i'm like oh fuck it i'm enjoying this

ha otm

it's ANIME EYES *fumes*

Sorry I'm playing catch up.

this is getting pwnd on youtube in the like/dislike war
― J0rdan S., Monday, January 23, 2012 7:49 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I can't understand why the r&b/hip hop community is not liking this. I guess being weird is not cool anymore. I guess you have to be all cool and "swag"??? Also, does it seem like r&b/hip hop doesn't like uptempo songs anymore. It seems like artists release an uptempo high concept song and it tanks and then releases a midtempo catchy, but boring song and it does well. Also does this song sound vaguely Balitmorish clubby to you guys? Maybe I'm reaching.

I think this is, like, EXACTLY how we're supposed to feel, and the reason I can't get excited about it.

― Clarke B., Monday, January 23, 2012 9:45 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I personally think she is the true descendant of Grace Jones which is why I'm enjoying this. Grace made people uncomfortable and Nicki is doing the same thing (but doing it with a sense of humor) for the r&b/hip hop community who tend to cry foul after a woman gets some longevity and tries something different.

nicki minaj is a million times funnier than lady gaga & about 2/3 as funny as missy

― flopson, Monday, January 23, 2012 9:46 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

OTM!!!!!!

It's not even that fast. It's only 100 bpm, which is way slower than "Super Bass" but a lot faster than most rap that gets played on the radio in 2012. 90-100 used to be pretty normal tempo for rap songs.

It's not Outkast "B.O.B" fast but still fast (and random) enough for people to not like it. Also this song is marketed towards the hip hop community while "Super Bass" is a pop song. An uptempo pop song is expected while uptempo hip hop songs don't get that much love.

"Stupid Hoe" is approx 99999999999999999x better than "Fly."

otm

Grace made people uncomfortable and Nicki is doing the same thing (but doing it with a sense of humor)

just r'd my e's so hard that I can see inside my skull

Grace totally had a sense of humor, even if it isn't quite as bugged out as Nicki's.

had and still has

also nicki is trying pretty hard to court that comparison w/ the grace jones homage in the video (albeit the exact same homage amber rose and kanye did a couple years earlier)

Nicki seems more one-note and less adultlike than Grace Jones. Also (pardon misused terminology) dont the downbeats in "Stupid Hoe" hit on 1234 instead of just 24 making it seem faster than it is?

Like "Fight The Power" seems a lot slower than this despite having a v similar bpm

the snare/clap is on all four quarter notes of "stupid hoe" and just on the 3 of "fight the power" -- i guess you could say it's 2 or 4 times the bpm depending on how you count it

They're on the 8th notes actually, which is what gives it the double-time feel.

Ok ya that's what I meant

Nicki seems more one-note and less adultlike than Grace Jones.

There are times that Grace has felt one note even though that's not the case. (Examples of "I've Done it Again and "Victor Should Have Been a Jazz Musician). I also feel that Grace courts more of the seriousness in her music/videos than the humor even though she is a funny person.

Nicki is just more overtly goofy and incorporates that in her music more.

also nicki is trying pretty hard to court that comparison w/ the grace jones homage in the video (albeit the exact same homage amber rose and Kanye did a couple years earlier)

There have been a lot of Grace Jones homages of the past few years, but I like Nicki's because even though her being unsettling to listeners is done in a different angle than Grace's. Like Grace she moves through genres a little off kilter. There is something inviting yet a little grating about both of their performances. Grace can be seen as just a monotone sing talk dominatrix while Nicki can be seen as an annoying drama student trying to rap. Also, their sexuality s not solely for the hetero-male gaze compared to their peers (Diana Ross/Madonna for Grace; Lil Kim/Foxy for Nicki).

tl;dr version - Both crazy women who do interesting, though not fail proof music who can be a little scary and/or annoying.

As you can hear in this video clip, Nicki Minaj slowed down is 100 percent without question actually Jay-Z.

i guess that sounds exactly like jay-z if you've heard less than two minutes of jay-z's music in your entire life

h8 nicki for releasing an inferior song called "marilyn monroe" while brianna's song is out

Brianna just put out a new video for it, though, so it looks like she's getting a proper push, maybe?

Amazing song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kEO5gLW2TI

oh cool, i'm glad they didn't use the remix w/ Wale for the video, i was afraid that was gonna be the version they give a big push

"sex symbol/should be on jimmy kimmel" is one of my favorite lyrics of late

Actually, why doesn't this have its own thread. Do we feel like it's the kind of song that deserves its own thread?

well you never know how these things will pan out, but i wouldn't mind a dedicated Brianna thread -- she dropped a mixtape on Christmas that's pretty good

favorite part of that verse is "bout to change my name...PRINCE SYMBOL," imo the most defensible grocery bag of the last few months

Although it just reminds me of Missy's "Prince couldn't get me change my name"

Voila: Brianna - 'Marilyn Monroe'

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xolh0s_21221223435_lifestyle

VERY GOOD NICKI. nice catholic/exorcism imagery for your gay male alter ego

I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not.

He isn't.

I liked it. I thought the song was decent too; chorus reminded me of an unhinged Cyndi Lauper sample

http://www.factmag.com/2012/02/14/nicki-minaj-starships/

This is....suspect. Like her halfway point b/t Taio Cruz and California Gurls.

hahahaha this is terrible

what the hell is happening in the middle of this song

that's the part where the demo RedONE put together for LMFAO leaked through the master copy

this is really corny but will probably sound good on the radio

smh

I predict that the set of circumstances necessary to make this sound good on the radio would result in the cataclysmic destruction of western civilization, making it impossible to actually hear this on the radio.

i am never gonna underestimate people's ability to cave in to songs just cuz they hear them on the radio all the time after various katy perry/ke$ha/taio cruz related débâcles passim

How very shocking! The Catholic church is stuffy!

dress in monochrome, bug eyes out

points to lex for using proper accents in débâcle

It just brings to mind the late 90s when you had all these nu-metal bands where the bass player just stares at you while bobbing his head in a way sure to upset your parents.

i am never gonna underestimate lex's ability to second-guess people's taste

this is really corny but will probably sound good on the radio

― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:37 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i heard it on the radio today...it sounded really corny

smh i heard this shit on the radio already and it did not sound good

this is aight, kind of sounds like a katy perry song

this is kind of a jam actually

hahaha this is 100% a katy perry song

this chorus is ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass ass

the world ridicules "stupid hoe"; sends "starships" to top 10 on iTunes already

was "stupid hoe" really ridiculed? most people i know irl fell for it hard

182,397 likes, 373,269 dislikes

Yeah i kinda like this, ain't gonna deny.

what "starships"?! or "stupid hoe"

"stupid hoe" is the one w/ a ton of dislikes

stupid hoe is cool but it's barely even music really

after all the ballyhoo about BET 'banning' the video, FUSE has been playing it relatively uncensored (song title changed to "Stupid, Stupid" but you can still hear her say 'stupid hoe' in the song, visuals all untouched)

i don't remember anything particularly vulgar in that video

well there was the giant naked animated ass

oh

in profile tho

i'm surprised there's no obligation to put an epilepsy warning at the beginning of that video..

that actually did happen to Hype Williams's last big video, Kanye's "All of the Lights," so you'd think he learned by now

"stupid hoe" is amazing, i am actually baffled that so many people dislike it

also wtf does "barely even music" mean

yeah "stupid hoe" is amazing

there's supposed to be a lot of dr luke on this album, right?

also wtf does "barely even music" mean

ahah. maybe it was considered it's only rhythm, not melody/harmony ?
what do I know, I'm not Geir !

I've already erased "Stupid Hoe" from my iPod :(

i like "stupid hoe" but i think it's patently obvious what people would dislike about it

especially among fanbases that were won over by "super bass" or "your love"

haha no kidding

yeah... there's probably going to be this ongoing tension b/w songs like "did it on em" and "roman's revenge" and "stupid hoe" and ones like "your love" and "starships"

i guess she's having her cake and eating it too now, but we'll see

and the respective fanbases for those songs

"did it on em" was a rap song but it wasn't very over the top goofy/weird, was a huge radio hit

anyone know what they're planning on doing w/ that song she did at the grammys

adapting it into her feature film debut?

i was joking when i said stupid hoe is barely even music, so far i like all nicki minaj output this year a lot. but like it should be obvious to everyone why it was so divisive/negatively received & why starships is going to be big. stupid hoe is a pretty dense concentration of the things people don't like about her with barely anything else to latch onto

i like "stupid hoe" but i think it's patently obvious what people would dislike about it

― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:27 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard Starships on the radio today and it was awful. I just gave it another play and was only mildly offended. as a Ke$ha track I'd probably give it a pass. I'll probably grow to love it.

probably.

it's kind of funny how "super bass" was like this perfect accidental synthesis of her pop crossover style and the more unique stuff people actually like her for, but instead of learning any lesson at all from its huge success she's right back to alternating between these songs that straddle those two extremes even more awkwardly than before.

https://twitter.com/#!/jawnita/status/169554944121253888

I saw the Rapradar blackout section and it made me go yeesh: http://rapradar.com

I hope she sticks it out with this album. I think it can be interesting. I can understand why people are being turned off but at the same time I have a feeling that people just want her to just fill the roles of a Lil Kim or Foxy Brown because that's how she was introduced. I love the way she raps when she just raps but at the same time, what she has been doing lately has been fascinating (even if it fails or not). I don't know. I feel like part of people's complaints is she needs to be put in her place (good ole rap sexism) or why isn't she doing things like she did six years ago (which makes no sense why you would ask anyone that question in life frankly).

But I think what bothers me about this whole Nicki thing is that the unwritten rules/expectations of hip hop for females are just so unrealistic and confining that even if all the songs were good would she receive praise or stil be lambasted because she's not being "hip hop." Even if I don't like the artist I get annoyed when people say "Such and such should stop doing this and adhere to what fans of a genre expects." And I think well who the fuck are you to say what they should and shouldn't do? God forbid this person doesn't fit into your fantasy world of expectations and idol worship.

tl;dr version: I still hope her original vision is intact for this album because even if it is a failure it still can be interesting to see a female rapper go this far image & music wise.

it's kind of funny how "super bass" was like this perfect accidental synthesis of her pop crossover style and the more unique stuff people actually like her for, but instead of learning any lesson at all from its huge success she's right back to alternating between these songs that straddle those two extremes even more awkwardly than before.

― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 23:30 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think starships is definitely still crossover, vocals on the verse esp, maybe less so than super bass but a lot more than turn me on

I hope she sticks it out with this album. I think it can be interesting. I can understand why people are being turned off but at the same time I have a feeling that people just want her to just fill the roles of a Lil Kim or Foxy Brown because that's how she was introduced.

― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:01 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is completely inaccurate

But I think what bothers me about this whole Nicki thing is that the unwritten rules/expectations of hip hop for females are just so unrealistic and confining that even if all the songs were good would she receive praise or stil be lambasted because she's not being "hip hop." Even if I don't like the artist I get annoyed when people say "Such and such should stop doing this and adhere to what fans of a genre expects." And I think well who the fuck are you to say what they should and shouldn't do? God forbid this person doesn't fit into your fantasy world of expectations and idol worship.

tl;dr version: I still hope her original vision is intact for this album because even if it is a failure it still can be interesting to see a female rapper go this far image & music wise.

― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Thursday, February 16, 2012 12:01 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how about it filling their expectations for making worthwhile hip-hop music instead of turning into Flo Rida

this is completely inaccurate

Um dude she did her own version of the Lil Kim photo and The Jump Off song. Uh yeah for a second she looked like she was going to fill that role for Young Money.

how about it filling their expectations for making worthwhile hip-hop music instead of turning into Flo Rida

Well she said from the jump off that she wanted to be more than just hip hop so she warned her fans. Also, Stupid Hoe and Roman in Moscow and that other song on the grammys dont' sound like any Flo Rida song I've ever heard of.

Plus, what is worthwhile hip hop music lately? Because to me that phrase has lost its meaning to me.

*Because that phrase has lost its meaning to me.* Ugh.

i hate all of your opinions and think you are 100% wrong about them

Ok so?

nicki posing like a lil kim poster & covering the jump off does not = her entire output is basically lil kim pt. 2

she broke out w/ mizay ent., working w/ gucci circa 09 before she was known as a part of young money & this was when her best stuff was dropping

her warning us that she wants to be "more" than hip-hop doesn't mean that fans cant be disappointed by that choice! the flo rida comparison was obv about the new song

and read the regional thug thread if you want to know about worthwhile hip hop because there is tons of it

i still like 'massive attack' more than 'super bass' by quite a wide margin.

jesus talk about overreacting.

i guess on the one hand it's easy to understand why she's doing what she's doing... her fanbase has grown and it's not like she's been ostracized from the hip-hop world or something. i guess everyone would like a new "super bass" seing as that's the song that really blasted her into superstardom, but if she's having her cake and eating it too there's no real reason for her to change what she's doing

but the music is largely complete shit, yes

should i start the WE ARE THE 1% tumblr for gays, women and non-whites that don't fuck with nicki's katy perry songs

it's getting hilarious how deej keeps saying "mizay" in reverent hushed tones

I have no problem conceptually with Nicki Minaj doing a Katy Perry pastiche; I have a problem with the actual pastiche sounding like dogshit.

^^ this, although more broadly i do have a problem with Nicki singing because she sounds awful

eh, she usually sounds okay if the guide vocal isn't loud enough to clash with her live vocals; she's never off enough to be entirely out of key, unlike say Rihanna (who apparently can only sing "We Found Love" in key live)

it's okay to think someone's singing is awful without it being about anything strictly technical

I didn't say it wasn't, I just disagreed and said why.

the things she does on the choruses of "Moment 4 Life" and "Right Thru Me" and "Turn Me On" are just blood-curdling to me. love the bridge of "Super Bass" though.

it's getting hilarious how deej keeps saying "mizay" in reverent hushed tones

― CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Friday, February 17, 2012 7:44 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

huh?

im just saying, its apparent listening to her '09 era mixtapes, when lex first really started pushing her, that she fell off far from those -- i underrated those at the time or her new stuff is that much worse

you're the only person in the world who gives a fuck who a rapper's manager is or acts as if it has any bearing on their music afaict