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new album is great, the layered oldtime synth drones of 'rifts' filtered w/ classic mego distortion
sreynolds interview
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Can't wait to see this guy at On Land in a month, having heard enough about him.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
awesome stuff
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
How do you pronounce this band's name?
― filthy dylan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
however you like, imo
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:54 (2 years ago) Permalink
one-oh-trix i'd wager
― mittens, Thursday, 29 July 2010 00:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
I like what I've heard.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
one-oh-trix is right, bit of a pun on a radio station tag iirc from reading an interview. i love this fella's sound. he wrings so much melancholy out of his equipment: 'zones without people', 'russian mind' and 'behind the bank' to name but three. 'where does time go' from his new one ploughs the same furrow but i could listen to this stuff all day.
― taojjbtcrf (or something), Thursday, 29 July 2010 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
i'm not done with rifts yet
― sonderangerbot, Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
thanks for linking that interview. i was initially repulsed by the sound-excess of returnal but it's become my most frequently played album lately. looking forward to hearing rifts. cool to see Mego releasing more broadly-appealing artists like this (and Emeralds)
― Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
both returnal and rifts are incredible, have been obsessing over them for the majority of this year. i know this sounds lame but BUY THE VINYL. it really does help bring certain textures into focus more so than i remember on the mp3s
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 29 July 2010 03:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
xps yeah 106.7 i gather
― wilter, Thursday, 29 July 2010 09:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
love rifts...got returnal on order
good mix by him: http://www.factmag.com/2010/06/28/fact-mix-162-oneohtrix-point-never/
― jabba hands, Thursday, 29 July 2010 13:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
still haven't heard his music, but just saw this feature which piqued my interest:http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1226
― one time gaffled 'em up (one time), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
tbh i don't understand why he's getting so much hype, but then soundscape stuff doesn't really do it for me. i keep waiting for the beat to drop.
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
ambient by way of rhythmic overload and interweave = not as many beats? i like the bc-ness of tracks like "computer vision" -- kind of bumping without a drum part ...
good show, too -- both times ive seen him it was heavy but not too long. at the release party for returnal it was a nice blend of that record's noise and rifts-style washed-out sci fi sheen.
― uptown churl, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
rifts is outstanding. love the super cascading stuff like "ships without meaning". haven't given the new one enough time yet.
― hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
games is pretty dire, though. was intrigued by descriptions of "midifunk"
love going through sunsetcorp's favorite vids on youtube. lots of demonstration vids from the 80s for computer graphics and synths and stuff.
― hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thanks for the tip, hobbes. Loving these videos.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
"russian mind" is the bomb
― for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like that one, not so shapeless
― emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
The only track I heard was on a recent Uncut giveaway and it was delicious.I'm by no means anywhere near au fait with this scene, but when it hits - decent Tim Hecker, Fennesz - anybody else? It's ace.
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
stars of the lid? eluvium?
― for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
Dig Eluvium and SOTL too
― Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
think basinski falls into this category
― for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
emeraldssome of james ferraro's stuff
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Vangelis
― Bill Khan, the younger brother of Gengis (elephant rob), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
wolfgang bock
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ray Lynch
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
m bison
― for those about to s1ock, we slutsk you (m bison), Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
jk
y'all should really check out Music For Lazy People by Waki (on Traum) for more arpeggiated bliss.
― hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
wayy more chilled out then opo, though
― hobbes, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
I dig his lindsay lohan tribute shit..
And the mix he recently had posted on Fact magazine's website.
― billstevejim, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
big fan of this dude. has another mix here: http://www.self-titledmag.com/home/2010/05/20/needle-exchange-020-an-exclusive-mix-by-oneohtrix-point-never/
― selected ambient worker (another al3x), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
That mix set me off on a major harold faltermeyer youtube binge.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
FACT mix is so awesome
― hobbes, Friday, 30 July 2010 03:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
That Faltermeyer track is really nice. That mix and the Fact mix are so good.
He's playing the Decibel Festival here in September.
― van smack, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
what do yall think of antony's version of returnal?
― Dad Can Dance (LOLK), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
video is by bay area's nate boyce!
― Dominique, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
I think Antony's version is quite pretty.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's the boards of canada vibes (subtle pitch bends, spacious tonal wafts) that keep me returning to returnal and rifts
― Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
"pelham island road" recalls pete standing alone, with the repeated melodic figure early on in the track.
― Palpatean Mists (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
The Antony/Fennesz version is really nice . . .
― with hidden noise, Sunday, 15 August 2010 16:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
yep fennesz remix of antony's cover of "returnals" is killing me right now. i'm not really an antony fan but this is so good
― that habit kick man (r1o natsume), Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
RAINBRO MIX http://pitchfork.com/forkcast/14801-funseeker-oneohtrix-point-nevers-rainbro-mix/
― hot fursuit (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
Played a v. good set at On Land. Rocking his Boston Celtics cap the whole time.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
wow oneohtrix remixing vladislav delay! the sistol album is nice, more awkward and psychedelic than anything he's done lately
the remix is good but i wouldn't have recognised the source track
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
dude's turning into somewhat of a maven, running olde english spelling bee, the new project 'games'. makes me want to buy a juno for real
― uptown churl, Thursday, 9 September 2010 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
does he run olde english spelling bee?
I've given them a fair bit of money in the last few months - in exchange for lovely vinyl, of course.
Any thoughts on the Autre Ne Veut record? The press release/whatever cited Erasure. I'm still trying to get my head around it.
― kraudive, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think so? i like the ANV record; along with how to dress well there seems to be a trend of sorta familiar "fucked up synth pop" but with actually strong vocals. also, i am going to his show tonight in brooklyn at zebulon. what do you think of the record? it is a little oblique, but i think that's intentional.
― uptown churl, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
I like what I've heard - but so far only on MP3. Waiting for the vinyl I ordered to land here in England. As someone said above, these records do tend to find some space to breathe on vinyl.
― kraudive, Thursday, 9 September 2010 22:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think so? i like the ANV record; along with how to dress well there seems to be a trend of sorta familiar "fucked up synth pop" but with actually strong vocals. going to his show tonight in brooklyn at zebulon. what do you think of the record? it is a little oblique, but i think that's intentional.
― uptown churl, Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
what the heck, sorry
Daniel doesn't run OESB, it's run by a guy named Todd who appears on the semi-mysterious OESB release Afrika Germany Germany Mexico Turkey Australia which Ducktails (Matthew Monandile) is also on. Daniel runs a small CD-R label called Upstairs:
http://upstairscdr.blogspot.com/
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
Could somebody possibly share me the FACT mix? Thanks!
― thubms up for lesebons (admrl), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 07:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
the fact mix is sooooo gooooooooood here it is
http://www.mediafire.com/?d1tagnv6c4brhh8
― fennel cartwright, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 08:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
I feel like I should love this guy but something about his sound just doesn't do it for me. listened to rifts last night and it's nice and all but it doesn't add up to much more than that for me. too simplistic, too cold? having a tough time even figuring out why I can't get into it.
― fuck to: posers (Alan N), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
omg the "Russian Mind" video just gave me the best headache ever
― billstevejim, Friday, 24 September 2010 15:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
honestly i think it's a matter of quality control. there is a lot of synth or rifts and it can blur together. russian mind, hyperdawn, computer vision, and format and jounrney north are the highlights for me. counter-intuitively it works best -- for me at least -- as mixtape music
― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I can't imagine listening to "Rifts" front-to-back
― bike chain dust? (lukas), Friday, 24 September 2010 16:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
russian mind, hyperdawn, computer vision, and format and jounrney north are the highlights for me.
just made this playlist on my ipod - will report back. thanks!
and I should note that I gave returnal several plays as well. liked some of it (the noisier bits, actually) but the whole thing never made much of an impression. if anything, I like rifts more.
― fuck to: posers (Alan N), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like rifts more than returnal, and play it front to back sometimes, but i usually start or stop somewhere in the middle. i like how sprawling it is. it can blur together, but i'm a total sucker for cosmic synth drones and arpeggios. current favorite is zones without people
― a fucking knitted scarf (another al3x), Friday, 24 September 2010 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
rifts is great in a single sitting if you're tired, sitting in the dark, drinking scotch and posting to ilx (inter alia)
returnal is sunnier and less introspective
― the decline of the altbro-hongarian empire (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 September 2010 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah rifts all the way through is good at evoking that woke up from cryo sleep too early and contemplating the void thing
― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Friday, 24 September 2010 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
does anyone have
Young Beidnahga
― the decline of the altbro-hongarian empire (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 September 2010 20:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
digging the 4-track rifts EP playlist btw.
― fuck to: posers (Alan N), Friday, 24 September 2010 20:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
I haven't heard Rifts but I love Returnal because it feels concise, for an ambient/drone/whatever record. It feels composed from beginning to end with proper ebbs and flows.
Incidentally I can't stop listening to the new Arp album, The Soft Wave, which works in similar territory. It too feels perfectly composed, with perhaps more attention paid to melody in addition to overall textures.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 24 September 2010 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^ my experience
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
I haven't heard Rifts Returnal but I love Returnal Rifts because it feels concise, for an ambient/drone/whatever record. It feels composed from beginning to end with proper ebbs and flows.
(Ignore that first post there...)
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
Rifts is way better.
― funky house skeptic (polyphonic), Saturday, 25 September 2010 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
I only have "hyperdawn" but now I feel I need the whole record.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Saturday, 25 September 2010 07:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
lmfao @ the games ep title, 'that we can play'
― die fokken achewood (diamonddave85), Sunday, 14 November 2010 06:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
i like the games/cfcf ep. some of the best stuff cfcf has done, tho i feel like it could alienate some oneohtrix fans
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Sunday, 14 November 2010 08:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
i guess the cfcf stuff is remixed here, so it doesn't count as their work 'officially', but it's still great. esp the gatekeeper remix
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Sunday, 14 November 2010 08:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
is the E.P. on Rvng a CFCF / Oneohtrix Point Never collab? I've seen listed as just CFCF?
― mmmm, Sunday, 14 November 2010 09:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
the Games - That We Can Play thing is streaming here; http://www.factmag.com/2010/11/01/stream-the-debut-album-from-games-that-we-can-play/might be a bit too much for me, will give a few listens before I decide.
― mmmm, Sunday, 14 November 2010 09:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
its a grower but quite different from the first ep.
By moving to a more song based structure, it's less individual than the earlier stuff.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 14 November 2010 10:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
the games remix of "it was never meant to be this way" is on both the cfcf ep on rvng (along with other remixes) and the games ep
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Sunday, 14 November 2010 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
awesome interview http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2010/11/electric-independence-oneohtrix-point.html
― ☯ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
love this dude more and more
― b'nai b'rith canal (m bison), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
no chillwave side projects can tarnish him
― calpolaris (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
if this is chillwave then im swag surfin
― b'nai b'rith canal (m bison), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
dude has an incredible ear
― b'nai b'rith canal (m bison), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 20:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
games ep is dope - posted abt how good it is in the lol chillwave thread
― Lamp, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
that interview is really endearing
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
yep, awesome interview. makes me appreciate OPN even more. seems like a real dude.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 25 November 2010 04:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
<3 that interview
― straight old fashioned, virgin (another al3x), Thursday, 25 November 2010 05:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
new games-that everyone can play is ace as well, i need to do some edits so i can play it out (my mixing really doesnt allow for 3 min tunes)
― straightola, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
Also Id see this as more of an edits/italo/straight up pop kind of thing than chillwave
― straightola, Thursday, 25 November 2010 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
OPN is cool but I prefer Games. Awesome tmblr.
http://skulltheft.tumblr.com
― laser precise purpose maker era, Saturday, 27 November 2010 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
I know, chillwave is ghey and all that, but I really like Games.
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Sunday, 28 November 2010 12:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
workd so hard 4 nothing
― plax (ico), Sunday, 28 November 2010 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
returnal is the sort of drone record a condor wld make. love this guy.
― ogmor, Monday, 29 November 2010 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's all good, but that title track is just flat out amazing.
― Krampus Interruptus (NickB), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
trying to envisage the sort of music a condor would make
― rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
swooping synths, vertiginous arpeggios, soaring chromatic chords
............o0oo0o
― rouxymuzak (nakhchivan), Monday, 29 November 2010 23:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
really loving the Games EP (reminds me a lot of stuff on the Valerie label, esp. Anoraak)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 3 December 2010 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Odd how you notice the lyrics in the album version of "Returnal" after hearing the Antony remix - is that Antony in the original?
― with hidden noise, Friday, 3 December 2010 16:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
despite the opening track which i can't really deal with Returnal is def top 5 of the year material (that said i don't keep up with much current ambient stuff)
― modrić in paradise (blueski), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm still waiting for OOTPN to click properly with me. He sounds like a really nice guy with a great approach to his work, but I still find Games infinitely more appealing for some reason.
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Monday, 13 December 2010 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
despite the opening track which i can't really deal with Returnal is def top 5 of the year material
exactly
― hiding behind a beard (or something), Monday, 13 December 2010 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
I wrote about that opening track, and why I think it works, here.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 13 December 2010 22:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
the following seven tracks exist in its wake and are enhanced by that context.
this is otm. love this record now.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
tho i dont like the opener that much, it has big tactical value.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
agree with that 100%
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 05:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
its on mego, it should sound like its on fucking mego
― straightola, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 13:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
so I thought I had listened to this album in full and didn't really like it
but now I have discovered that I actually just listened to the first track on repeat 6 times and didn't realize it
¯\(°_°)/¯
― dayo, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hahaha!
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
I mean, this album is actually kind of nice. not as 'difficult' as I thought it was. not the 'successor' to 'merzbow' I had 'imagined'.
― dayo, Tuesday, 14 December 2010 14:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
There was a kid on the TEFOSAV forum back in the early 00's who used to call himself Nuclear Heaven and who made a sound very similar to this under different monikers. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same guy as the approach and aesthetic is so similar. I think I might even have some of his old albums.
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
its on mego, it should sound like its on fucking mego― straightola, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
― straightola, Tuesday, December 14, 2010 1:05 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
yes!
"harsh" track is kinda pretty tbh. one of the standouts for me, tho I still don't love the album.
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 16:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
that new games video is soo bad
bad as in not good, not as in the powerglove
― FLEETWOOD MAC OS THE XX FILES (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 14 December 2010 20:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
i haven't heard anything by Games as compelling as his OPN stuff
― get off my lawn (rockapads), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 03:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
Planet Party is one of my jams of 2010. Someone posted it to a thread before I'd even heard of Oneohtrix and somethign about the video imagery and I was completely suckered into the music and video, so much so that I had to check it really was something from 2010 and not 1985. I know this hauntology/retro thing's been being done since the late 90s, but this was done so well, I was transported back to watching TV adverts on my Dad's old portable telly.
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
(sorry about my writing, just got back from work's Chrismtas lunch and trying hard not to crawl under my desk for a kip.
― What are you doing here? (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 December 2010 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
the antony cover of returnal is pretty awesome, i discovered today
― call all destroyer, Friday, 24 December 2010 21:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
don't like that v much
― No Wicked Heart Shall Prosper.rar (nakhchivan), Friday, 24 December 2010 21:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I love the Antony/Fennesz remix more than the original. though I haven't really played this album much, I listen to Rofts way more
― missingNO, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
uh, Rifts, that should say
his side on this is dope
http://www.discogs.com/Tomutonttu-Oneohtrix-Point-Never-Split/release/2291707
― missingNO, Saturday, 25 December 2010 03:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ah, I remembered the name of that artist I mentioned upthread. He was called Acreil, and his stuff can be downloaded here: http://www.archive.org/details/enrmp092_acreil_-_blue_music
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 13 January 2011 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
Sorry to street team, but I do like this guy's stuff http://www.youtube.com/user/acreil
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Thursday, 13 January 2011 22:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
We invited him to support Agalloch on the NYC show. He declined :(
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 13 January 2011 22:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
"Him" being Oneohtrix of course.
that would've been an amazing gig.
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
3pm, Nil Admirari
11pm:
― just woke up (lukas), Thursday, 27 January 2011 07:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
i enjoyed that quite a bit
― rockapads, Thursday, 27 January 2011 07:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
even looked up the original, which i also liked, but this is an improvement imo
Okay, so that little bit in the beginning where the 5 minutes of noise fades and gives way to that lush, rolling beautiful drone
this makes me smile really big
― Mrs. Doubtfife (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 6 February 2011 04:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
^i dug that tons, but knew it was the intention the entire time i was listening to that 1st track and couldn't help that think my enjoyment was only cause of remission and not any real skill on part of the artist going on here.
i mean the trend is so common in p. much every noise show i've ever been to/album i've ever bought that i'm tempted to say it justifies the artist's incapability to craft melody in the first place.
― The previous message has been brought to you by (kelpolaris), Sunday, 6 February 2011 07:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Playing South Bank Centre, London, 9th April with Games as support.
Already looking on eBay for a time machine to take me to that gig now.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 6 February 2011 12:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/41514-games-change-name-to-ford-lopatin-start-mexican-summer-imprint-software/
Why??
― Bernard V. O'Hare (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hmm. I actually do love that logo though. Totally something I would have seen on a sub-Sierra computer game back in the day.
― one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah cool logo + Games was a crap name so w/e. really want to see that London show.
― idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
also this
― idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
software label lookin good.. putting out demdike stare!
― talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
also based on that url i thought they changed their name to Ford and imagined that this was the cool new logo haha
― talk talk talk (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 9 February 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
holy cow be sure to pick up the harald grosskopf - synthesist reissue http://igetrvng.com/prsnts/314
includes bonus cd with reworkings by contemporary kosmische superstars (oneohtrix, arp, stellar om source, cfcf)
― Paradife Loft (diamonddave85), Monday, 21 February 2011 22:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
I want to hear that remix cd pretty badly
― van smack, Monday, 21 February 2011 22:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
I finally got in touch with Acreil again, via last.fm of all places. He gave me a link to his newest stuff, for those who are interested: http://soundcloud.com/gsn10
― farieling thosder chout a bagh an i ballme crantuman (dog latin), Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
preview of the Ford & Lopatin LP 'Channel Pressure' out in June
― dumb p rusty nults (blueski), Monday, 14 March 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
Personally I am not into the stuff F&L are doing at all. Too retro for me.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
what isn't retro in 2011?
that sounds mint. i dunno if it's just the way it's edited, but kinda reminds me of VHS head. anticipating hard.
― http://i56.tinypic.com/xnsu1g.gif (max arrrrrgh), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
vocals sound a bit too max tundra at times mind you
― dumb p rusty nults (blueski), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
i havent heard the F&L stuff yet, but a max tundra name-drop will keep me far far away from most anything... say it aint so :(
― ilxor you've listened to one odd future album once (ilxor), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
you put me right off
hah XP
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
Love OPN, don't like Games/F&O, OBSESSED with Max Tundra. So, weird.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
listening again, tundra but with a bit more green gartside thrown in maybe (def an improvement). anyway the second track sounds particularly great.
― dumb p rusty nults (blueski), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 00:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
ya idk guys these vocals are way better than max tundra. also the context helps quite a bit, esp when compared to tundra
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 01:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
loved the Games EP so will pick up the album on sight for sure (unless they raidcally changed their sound along with their name).
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 08:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
Seeing them (Games) play live in less than a month... really looking forward to this.
Will likely drop back to the bar for OPN.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hah! I thought that was supposed to be all one track...
― farielan chosder bout a chagh an i ballme trantuming (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
According to RA:
Software Recordings will release Joel Ford and Daniel Lopatin's debut album, Channel Pressure, in June.It will be the first time Ford (of Tigercity) and Lopatin (Oneohtrix Point Never) have released together under their given names, with previous material always credited to their Games moniker. The initial single from Channel Pressure—titled "Emergency Room"—is said to be a limited edition x-ray picture disc. Due for release on April 26th, it will contain remixes from Gavin Russom and The Bug.The album itself will follow the story of teenager Joel Rogers, who lives in a time when bands are extinct and the record industry is controlled by a super-computer. An anti-hero, it's Rogers' dream to "unplug from reality and jam in the style of his MIDI-equipped ancestors."A video made available by the duo elaborates on the theme and provides samples of the music.Tracklist01. Scumsoft02. Channel Pressure03. Emergency Room04. Rock Center Paranoia05. Too Much MIDI (Please Forgive Me)06. New Planet07. The Voices08. Joey Rogers09. Dead Jammer10. Break Inside11. Surrender12. Green Fields13. World of Regret14. G's Dream
It will be the first time Ford (of Tigercity) and Lopatin (Oneohtrix Point Never) have released together under their given names, with previous material always credited to their Games moniker. The initial single from Channel Pressure—titled "Emergency Room"—is said to be a limited edition x-ray picture disc. Due for release on April 26th, it will contain remixes from Gavin Russom and The Bug.
The album itself will follow the story of teenager Joel Rogers, who lives in a time when bands are extinct and the record industry is controlled by a super-computer. An anti-hero, it's Rogers' dream to "unplug from reality and jam in the style of his MIDI-equipped ancestors."
A video made available by the duo elaborates on the theme and provides samples of the music.
Tracklist01. Scumsoft02. Channel Pressure03. Emergency Room04. Rock Center Paranoia05. Too Much MIDI (Please Forgive Me)06. New Planet07. The Voices08. Joey Rogers09. Dead Jammer10. Break Inside11. Surrender12. Green Fields13. World of Regret14. G's Dream
― ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
Haha wow, now that is some next level concept album shit
― La descente infernale (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 13:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
i hear it's co-written by Ben Elton
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ha!
― ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 14:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
Not really feeling the single so far
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 15:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
So I went to his SF show. I was sortof stupefied from a long day, holding a beer staring at the DJ booth, when I realized I had no idea what a traveling OPN show would be like. Would he bring out a massive rack of analog synths? Would he have some creative way of translating that to digital controllers? No.
― lukas, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
laptop?
― adult music person (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.gorillavsbear.net/2011/04/27/mp3-ford-lopatin-emergency-room-gavin-russom-remix/
― ˆᴥˆ (blueski), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
Sampler / controller pad attached to laptop, yeah.
― lukas, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
hmm. how was it? for me one of the most appealing parts of OPN is the analog sounds ... when i caught him in brooklyn it was juno + sampler + effects and it sounded fantastic
― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Wednesday, 27 April 2011 19:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wasn't loopy enough to miss a Juno, I think, didn't see one anyway.
It was ok. Preyouandi should always be played that loud. Too bad the sound sucked.
― lukas, Wednesday, 27 April 2011 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
JF: “One of the other things totally different about Mexican Summer is that I found it such a turn off talking to other labels due to the lack of actual interest in what we were doing. It was so…brutal. Like ‘oh, I saw you guys on the internet. Want to make a record? We’ll give you $10,000.’ Hell, for that I could buy a computer, and a decent mic pre-amp but still be in my bedroom.”
oh yeah, so brutal. maybe this makes me an herb, but what indie labels are giving bands $10k to make a record these days? especially electronic music producers (whom they saw on the internet) who are presumably self-sufficient as far as a recording setup?
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 29 April 2011 14:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Love OPN, but dude is branching out into some real crapola
― bananas foster wallace (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
^^^
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, its been pretty much diminishing returns since Rifts if you ask me. I mean, Returnal was only a very very slight drop in quality, imho, but I haven't really been into the other stuff all that much.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 April 2011 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
Well the Games stuff I've heard is awesome imo and I'm very excited about the album.
― kraudive, Friday, 29 April 2011 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
ditto
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 29 April 2011 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
I just put on Returnal extremely loudly on the turntable, and literally seconds after that opening blast of "Nil Admirari," a construction crew started jackhammering pavement down the street. It complements the song awesomely at the moment, though I'm sure I'll be buzzkilled when I'm trying to bliss out to the third and fourth tracks. This record just keeps getting better, does it not?
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 May 2011 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
leaked.
awesome so far
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 27 May 2011 02:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
A new album? Or is this a Ford/Lopatin thing?
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 27 May 2011 04:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
the ford + lopatin record is out next week (or the week after?) so probably that?
― :D-00 (Lamp), Friday, 27 May 2011 05:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya i mean the ford & lopatin album (channel pressure)
after hearing the whole thing at least once now i can say there are a few tracks that i am less than fond of, but usually this is because of the vocals (and there are instrumental versions of most of the tracks i have so w/e)
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 27 May 2011 06:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
loved the Games EP but found the F&L single very underwhelming so a bit ambivalent right now.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 27 May 2011 08:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah the best thing abt the single was the crawl @ the beginning of the video...
― :D-00 (Lamp), Friday, 27 May 2011 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
the single is "emergency room", right? is it the vocals that you are ambivalent about? because... like i said, there are instrumentals.
hard to imagine anyone who liked the games ep wouldn't be able to get into at least half of this album
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 27 May 2011 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah 'emergency room' is the single although the crawl i was thinking of was across the channel pressure teaser lol @ me...
im still p hype to hear this but the songs ive hears seem busier and choppier than the games ep? idk
― :D-00 (Lamp), Friday, 27 May 2011 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I only listened to a few songs and didn't like what I heard.
― van smack, Friday, 27 May 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
whole album streaming herehttp://www.factmag.com/2011/05/31/stream-ford-lopatins-channel-pressure-album-in-full-exclusively-on-fact/
― blueski, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 13:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
They were kind of ambient when I saw them at Primavera, but I'll hopefully be seeing them again on Thursday too. Anyone coming to that?
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
w00t!
― (eval ' (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i can't figure out which my bloody valentine song he's sampling on "world of regret"... unless he figured out precisely how to recreate that sound
and ya these songs are a bit more anxious than the games stuff, but on say "new planet" or the title track this comes across really well i think
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 31 May 2011 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
These guys have quite a few dimensions - from the EPs to the album to the live act, it's always very different.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 3 June 2011 09:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's funny seeing the reviews come out for this. remember they changed their name from Games to avoid litigation or something? and now every review starts with HEY EVERYONE THIS BAND USED TO BE CALLED 'GAMES' DO YOU REMEMBER, calling more attention to the name than when the band was going.
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I prefer Games, and that's a terrible name. Wish they'd just called themselves Software or something, but I guess they wanted the name to be ambiguous enough so they could do multiple styles. They're a proper jam band live.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
how so?
― adult music person (Jordan), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well... It's not like they're Phish or anything, but they really do seem to be jamming/freestyling live rather than just doing variations on their released tracks.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
nothing on Channel Pressure with quite the same style and impact of the EP tracks - bit disappointed after first listen
― blueski, Friday, 3 June 2011 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, i only gave it a cursory listen, but it's def not up to those EPs (which are perfect in my book). Still, I think these guys have enough in them to try out quite a few styles, so I wouldn't write em off yet.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 3 June 2011 13:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
caught them live last night, was fair to OK. I wouldnt call them a jam band, they do a bit of riffing but still a lot of the start/stop stuff that makes post noiser dance guys suck live ie teengirl fantasy. Theyre clearly enjoying themselves but it all seems like a waste of time and effort compared to the oneohtrix live sets ive seen the last couple of years
― straightola, Friday, 3 June 2011 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey, i was there too.
not the greatest set i've ever seen, but better than the Primavera one from the week before. It also felt way too short. Both times I'd seen them it felt like they were really building towards something and then they'd just stop.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Friday, 3 June 2011 14:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I popped in on the way home from the phenomenal Aethenor/Alexander tucker show at cafe oto, just about everything would seem dry after that
― straightola, Friday, 3 June 2011 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
kinda surprised that i'm the only one repping for this... i guess the chillwave backlash is in full effect
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 3 June 2011 21:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is this really chillwave? I didn't get that feel at all when I listened to it. But what do I know.
― van smack, Friday, 3 June 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
it sounds like a far more palatable version of neon indian to me, but i am no expert either
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 3 June 2011 22:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
to me it basically sounds like Akufen with 80's E-Z Listening samples and undanceable beats. not really into it for the most part.
― rockapads, Friday, 3 June 2011 22:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
yaaaa i don't see that at all. this is a dense and shiny synth-pop record (just realized they recorded this in jan hammer's studio) with a few retro-pastiche interludes imo
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 3 June 2011 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's good shiny layered pop with some pretty catchy tunes in all. Just unsure as to whether I'd come back to it regularly or not?
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
...comsidering I've had those eps on rotation since I first heard em
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Judging just from playing the stream a few times, I think the new Ford & Lopatin record is a total grower... I've liked it twice as much with each new listen. The production is incredible, and I can't wait to grab this on vinyl this week and crank the shit out of it. "Joey Rogers" is a titanic track, deep into "Big In Japan" by Alphaville territory. "Emergency Room" reminds me of Cupid & Psyche '85-era Scritti Politti--another earworm. It did take me a couple of listens to get used to how different it is from the Games EPs (which I also adore), but it's a real feast, and shows a huge amount of breadth, stylistically and sonically (which I also think takes a little getting used to).
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 June 2011 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
inclined to agree with you clarke b. once you get over the fact it's not much like the EPs, this turns out to be a really stylish and much more realistic twist on eighties nostalgia. They seem to have tapped into that vein of unprejudiced listening I felt as a kid - where everything just sounds like music, be it Green Gartside or Cameo singing.
― broodje kroket (dog latin), Monday, 6 June 2011 09:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's a great point. Lopatin has become one of those artists for me whose instincts I totally trust. It's deeper than just liking the sound of it, I dig the whole feel and aesthetic of it and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt wholeheartedly. I want to say that it almost feels like it's asking a lot of listeners nowadays to change your style up so much and be so diverse and expect people to follow you (aren't we all a little more ADD-addled as listeners than we used to be? just by virtue of the ways music digestion and exposure have evolved?)... Just as I miss and get nostalgic about that feeling of it all just being music and not so aware of genre/politics/motivation/perception/whatever, I also miss and get nostalgic about really rooting for a band or a dude. I'm already anxious for a new Oneohtrix record to come out... Returnal continues to improve and deepen with each new listen.
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 June 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
God, I've really got to give Oneohtrix another go. I just never understood the point or why it's supposedly better than any number of third-rate IDM/ambient/drone/synth-dork acts from the last fifteen years. Def needs another go.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Monday, 6 June 2011 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've been thinking about that lately; it's hard to articulate... It feels thoroughly and carefully composed (though not exhaustingly labored-over like a lot of "intricate" IDM-ish stuff feels to me) as opposed to just loop-riding or drifting. That said, it feels organic (horrible word, I realize)--but not in that BoC "analog synths melting in the warm '70s sunlight" more overtly nostalgic way either. It feels like Lopatin is very in tune with the synth he's playing, and what he's doing with the music, and where he wants it to go. Its virtuosic in its sense of self-assuredness, but not in a drily technical way at all. Also, now that I think about it in relation to the Ford & Lopatin record and what I said about it above, Returnal really is quite diverse. There's a noise-blast track, a "pretty" track, a track with vocals, a track with percussive effects like I've never heard before... There are moments of ultra-density, moments of spareseness, and it flows beautifully. And man, just the SOUND of it, that fucking Juno--so nice.
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 June 2011 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone on the Nite Jewel thread said her collab with Dam Funk was "the wrong end of the '80s" ... disagreed in that case but that's kinda how I'm feeling about Channel Pressure I think. I liked the Games stuff I heard but not really feeling this.
― dmr, Monday, 6 June 2011 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I rep hard for the wrong end of the '80s.
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 June 2011 20:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
fair enough
― dmr, Monday, 6 June 2011 21:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
And I can clearly remmeber a time when there wasn't even a "right end of the '80s"... So time'll tell with this one.
― Clarke B., Monday, 6 June 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
And man, just the SOUND of it, that fucking Juno--so nice.
This is really the nubbins of it imo
― immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Monday, 6 June 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
'the wrong end of the '80s' been hugely fashionable for several years now iirc. i'm hearing a lot of disparate sounds that remind me of thomas dolby b-sides or malcolm mclaren or japanese new wave. and a lot of italo.
i can also attest to this thing growing on you after repeat listens, especially w/ a track like "surrender" (the one with the dude from autre ne veut)... but can someone please point out how this is such a markedly different direction than the last ep? because i'm at a loss. i guess they use different vocalists on the album. and the drums are maybe a bit more complex, but the more i try to compare the two the more i realize i vastly prefer the album to those eps (except for "strawberry skies" of course)
*disclaimer* i have been playing this nonstop for the past few weeks and have chosen to embrace even its most cloying vocal performances (tho ironically i am still coming around on "the voices"). i think i've played the title track more than any other song this year so far
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this. But it might be idiosyncratic...
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
The album is a lot more "pop" than the EPs' "Amiga-Funk" stylings. I hear the EPs as unturfed soundtracks from old TV adverts and theme tunes rather than pop songs. Planet Party especially makes me think somehow of those "and all because the lady loves... Milk Tray", or some Miami Vice type show.
The Voices I'd have thought would be the follow up single to Emergency Room.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 08:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
and I do love a lotta that stuff you're mentioning so I'm a bit surprised this doesn't do it for me
can someone please point out how this is such a markedly different direction than the last ep?
don't think it's a different direction but "cloying vocal performances" is what's putting me off a bit ... like I will tolerate that stuff in actual '80s music if other elements grab me enough but I don't want to hear it re-created
that said I only have listened to the album once
― dmr, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
it sounds to me like Channel Pressure is more song-orientated than the '...Play' EP which is more about huge impact hooks (a la Braxe & Falke) and earworming ideas that imo are still crying out for extended dubs (including SS). i agree that the vocals hamper it as unfortunately they are closer to Tundra than Gartside.
― blueski, Tuesday, 7 June 2011 12:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this video
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 12:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Anyone know who does the singing on these tracks? Is it all Joel Ford?
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is better the more you listen to it ime i guess its less... straightforward than the other stuff, spikier & less obviously pleasing at least to my ears.
― ideas are death (Lamp), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
there's a lot of detail going on. the tracks always stay constant but never sit still.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 June 2011 13:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
This indeed sounds AMAZINGLY good on vinyl. I've never really heard production quite like this before... There's an unbelievable amount of detail to each track, for sure.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 7 June 2011 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I believe the elephant in the room with his project is a Mr. Ed Banger
― straightola, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
are ed banger involved with this?
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Something Chromeo-ish about this that kind of...I dunno. Like the Games stuff better.
― Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i hear more chromeo vibes than ed banger vibes, but i can see why you would say that
haha xp
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
along with all the marginalia there are definitely some serious '80s stadium-rock influences
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
but again, you could probably say the same about "planet party" from the ep
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Definitely into the 80s synth geekery on Channel Pressure... what takes away some of the pleasure is knowing it's like a concept/story album. I can't help but imagine the story in my mind listening to it, which makes me appreciate the music less for some reason. I like making up my own stories to songs, I guess.
― Spectrum, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
I believe the elephant in the room with his project is a Mr. Ed Banger― straightola, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― straightola, Wednesday, June 8, 2011 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Jesus. Way to put me off ever wanting to here this!
― Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
uh, hear.
jesus indeed, it doesn't ACTUALLY sound very much like ed banger... only real similarities i can think of are compression (which is everywhere so w/e) and stadium rock homages
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
the production is so generous, all that choppy 80s synth bass, gymnastic vocal processing, cut up enya coos, loads of period production flourishes like adhd new age; the little ed banger i know makes a woeful comparison. it is PUNCHY tho. first that james ferraro record, now this, chillwave bros becoming v unchill sugar rush mentalists of late. the lyrics are like a masterful satire of chillwave - now i'm alone and the tvs on/its the colour of power rock - but i love them. this is so great, i'm surprised there's not more conviction on this thread.
― ogmor, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
adhd new age is a great way to describe this
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Clarke B - thanks to your description of Oneohtrixpoint Never, I think I'm a convert! What I hadn't realised is how powerful the effect of his music has over me. Every time I've put it on, it's put me into a complete trance and I can't remember listening to it again. It's totally cerebral.
Think this is why Ford & Lopatin work so well - it's a real yinyang, right/left brain, apollonian/dionysian balance they have going on and it works.
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
While we're counting soundalikes for Channel Pressure, I feel like the VHS Head album from last year is an obvious predecessor.
― Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm expecting this to have a lot of commonalities with the Valerie label roster (eg. Anoraak) - the Games EP sure did.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 12:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's more, I dunno, home listening than the Valerie artists I've heard. Far more interesting production touches too.
― Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
My pleasure, Dog Latin, and I'm in total agreement on its immersive character... And Channel Pressure is SO GOOD, you guys. There are so many little surprises and delicious textures and squiggles and secret wormholes in the production; I've never heard anything quite like it. Something about the record reminds me, weirdly, of Paul's Boutique, but instead of spot-the-sample it's a game of spot-the-reference... There's one riff in "Joey Rogers" that's almost a direct quote of that crazy fucking robot-guitar finger-tapping-sounding thing just before the chorus in Yes's "Owner of a Lonely Heart"--but it's subtle. These guys have internalized this stuff so much that it doesn't sound like pastiche or overly reverential mimicry or anything; it's not "hey look at us we sound like '80s Yes and Thomas Dolby LOL"--their ids leak the shit.
― Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm going to hold back on the effusive praise for this until I'm convinced it has the tunes and/or depth to hold my interest after the initial novelty wears off.
― Terje Chocolate Orange (seandalai), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
I hear you... I've personally had something or other from this record in my head nearly constantly since I started listening to it. "World of Regret" is there currently...
― Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
any reason to pick this up on vinyl?
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
(apart from retro fetishism that is)
I just like the way stuff sounds on vinyl. I have a decent setup and the bass is much richer and deeper on vinyl for me, plus everything is just a little more "present"... I'd wager that a lot of the stuff they're referencing was actually initially purchased mainly on cassette!
― Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Comes with a download coupon too FWIW
― Clarke B., Thursday, 9 June 2011 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
i didnt get a coupon this is bs
― ogmor, Thursday, 9 June 2011 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
so i really like this but ... is there anything that sounds like this *without* the vocals? because i don't really care for the voice.
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 04:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
the "instrumental" versions sorta remind me of cylob (ambient news), though more superficially 'fat'-sounding.. i suppose the compressed thump of it recalls chris clark (but clean), or jackson and his computer band
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Friday, 10 June 2011 05:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
did the version you have not come with instrumentals moonship? they're out there for most of the songs on the album with vocals
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 10 June 2011 05:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
are the instrumentals a separate disc or part of the CD?
i was thinking more like similar artists ... i really like the sound design and the effects they use
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 05:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hmmm... not really the same thing but you could do worse than check out the last album by Tipper (best sound design I think I've ever heard on an album tbh) and Console's "Herself" (which I've banged on about a few times here).
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Friday, 10 June 2011 08:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
What's the beef with the vocals? I guess I can see them maybe coming across a little mannered/stylized, but they stop well short of fey for me (unlike certain other high-voiced guys singing over electronic music)... Plus it's hard to imagine the songs working nearly as well without the vocal hooks.
― Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 12:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Com Truise
― blank, Friday, 10 June 2011 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
gave it a second listen in the car last night, the album sounded much less psychedelic and trippy and the vocals were much easier to deal with. i think i forget sometimes that my home system is absurdly bright and that sometimes makes certain recordings tough to deal with
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
good looking out blank
Oh man, I bet this is a great driving album... There are times I miss driving so much, and it's usually when there's something I want to listen to while doing it. I hear you re: a non-ideal setup bringing out stuff in recordings in a bad way--happens to me with my computer speakers a lot.
― Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
miss my B&Ws so much now that I've moved in with gf :-(
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I miss listening to music now I've moved in with my gf :-(
― The Boy Who Can Go Inside The TV (dog latin), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah that too actually
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 10 June 2011 15:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
i have electrostatic ribbon speakers which are super-bright to begin with ... in a room with bare wood floor, facing painted drywall at a distance of about 8 feet. the first half of the album was unbearably bright, the second half deeply trippy in a flying lotus way.
i hear all of the "french touch" references on the thread
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
i did a quickie interview with Joel Ford for the show tonight.
― beta blog, Friday, 10 June 2011 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
They're playing TONIGHT? In Brooklyn? Man, my day just got a lot better...
― Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
at the Mercury Lounge in LES.
― beta blog, Friday, 10 June 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thought it was at 285 Kent: http://www.villagevoice.com/events/turrbotax-presents-ford-and-lopatin-jacques-greene-autre-ne-veut-2612868/
― Clarke B., Friday, 10 June 2011 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Okay, so people keep talking about Scritti Politti and I'm intrigued. What kind of stuff are they channeling? Any recommendations?
― kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
the title track does remind me of the remix of 'Absolute' a lot so start with Cupid & Psyche 85
― blueski, Saturday, 11 June 2011 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
good show -- early 90s vibes strong. much more build-and-release dance than concise pop live. however it was one of the hottest shows i have ever been in and i felt like i was going to die so i spent a portion of it listening from outside
dj spinning underground resistance afterward, nice
― teflon dawn (uptown churl), Saturday, 11 June 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
:-D
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
cupid & psyche 85 has a lot more BIG SCARE QUOTES soul than this
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
"emergency room" i think is the closest it gets to scritti
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 11 June 2011 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Listening now to Cupid & Psyche 85 and yeah, I can hear it absolutely. It's a lovely record though. Like it a lot and I went to Discogs just now and got a good value vinyl copy coming to me.
― kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 23:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh yeah the Absolute version / remix
― kraudive, Saturday, 11 June 2011 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Agreed re: "Emergency Room" being the Scrittiest... The super-playful production on "Hypnotize" reminds me a lot of moments on Channel Pressure. Cupid & Psyche 85 is SUCH a great record.
― Clarke B., Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Also re: vocals - surely I can hear the guy from Autre Ne Veut on a couple of these tunes, right?
― kraudive, Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
iirc yep
― hipsters gonna hip (seandalai), Sunday, 12 June 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
My girlfriend and I went record shopping today, and she put in some serious time dumpster-diving in the dollar bin... She turned up Riptide by Robert Palmer, and I have to say, "Joey Rogers" also owes a lot to "I Didn't Mean to Turn You On"--an amazing song. I feel like everything '80s I've been listening to since I got Channel Pressure I'm hearing through its prismatic and dizzying references.
― Clarke B., Sunday, 12 June 2011 03:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
My bit about the live gig from the other week:http://thequietus.com/articles/06413-ford-lopitan-live-review
― Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review. I dont really hear it myself
― straightola, Monday, 13 June 2011 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
for me it was "the singing really reminds me of someone" and when someone suggested Gartside it was a bit of a kick m/s moment.
― Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I definitely hear in Emergency Room, but not too much in the rest. Haven't read the Wire review.
This record is fucking ace btw.
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ive a feeling all the scritti politti comparisons stem from the wire review
just seemed pretty obvious from the title track imo
― blueski, Monday, 13 June 2011 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Otm
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Have you guys heard the slowed-down "echo jam" version of the Scritti song on the Games "Heaven Can Wait" mixtape?
― Clarke B., Monday, 13 June 2011 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dog Latin, thought you were overly positive about that gig, I was really bummed out by it. it just felt that neither of them got into the groove at all and the minute the crowd began feeling it, then they stopped and started again.
and after the minimum time they could play for, they legged it....
been trying to understand why this was so different from the gig at the Ether festival, and I can only guess that the layout of the Shackleton means everyone stays in the pub area and only fills the venue as the band come on, which means the crowd are not warmed up and the no one can gauge the crowd till the band come on.
I liked the gig but found myself apologizing to friends I had brought along for a hit and miss 30 min set.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 13 June 2011 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
This sounds unbearably bright to me as well, I associate that strain of production with particularly hamfisted frankendance BUT I assume Lopatin knows what he's doing here. But to me it just sounds fucking horrible and flattens out any textural interest that might be there.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 June 2011 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hamildan, yes I agree it wasn't exactly the most enthralling thing I'd ever seen and I think I mentioned it was waaaay too short, plus a bit arms-across-chest. The subheading on that article makes it out to be more positive than I felt. Their set at primavera was kind of similar and I was surprised at the lack of snare.
― Bus to Yoker (dog latin), Monday, 13 June 2011 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Channel Pressure : brightness :: Psychocandy : surface noise
― Clarke B., Monday, 13 June 2011 18:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
'The Voices', especially the chorus, is killing me. It sounds like an M83 track with a different singer. So much going on, such a perfect build of tiny details and a lush vocal loop.
― ...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 13 June 2011 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
the cupid and psyche connection... both records are extremely EXTROVERTED synth pop records with tons of gorgeous sounds whizzing by. intricate design. channel pressure is extremely 1985... the rise of fairlights/digital sampling mixing in with synthpop. i'm also reminded of mid-late80s 12" pop "dub" mixes where horn stabs and noises dart in and out.. just the whole gimmicky "this sampler thing is fun, let's throw sounds all over the place" approach but done with care and precision.
― blank, Monday, 13 June 2011 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
and it's weird how that approach kind of converges with the whole stuttering/"nu-glitch" vibe that seems to be going on (com truise, onra, james blake, dilla copyists, etc.). damn, i might be reaching here.
― blank, Monday, 13 June 2011 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Clarke B. thanks for the heads up on Heaven Can Wait. I got a hold of Spend the Night With Games (which is excellent), glad to see there's more.
― blank, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 00:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i agree with you blank but at the same time i feel like those are the least unique aspects of scritti politti, there's not a lot of 80s pop your description doesn't match
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
right, that's why i pointed to 12" remixes and such. that seemingly haphazard but conscientious approach to throwing sounds around which i think is absent from most/all 80s revival stuff. i guess i'm just trying to get this back to the "wrong side of the eighties" thing that was mentioned earlier.
― blank, Tuesday, 14 June 2011 02:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I still don't have Spend the Night with Games, but you should definitely get the That We Can Play EP--really solid top to bottom. Heaven Can Wait is literally just slowed down jams with some echo and synth added here and there, but many of the choices are really inspired (and I never knew how amazing Sandra was!). From a music theory 101 perspective, I think some of the perceived kinship between Channel Pressure and Cupid & Psyche 85 might also have to do with the predominance of major keys on both records, which speaks to a complete lack of "dour" on both records as well. And I like blank's point about the 12" extended dub remix feel to some of these Channel Pressure tracks. This record is really incredible.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 14 June 2011 23:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah spend the night is just a dj mix. 80s boogie, slowed down michael franks, a track from maxinquaye, sweet stuff.
― blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
that we can play is kind of ehhh, IMO. They really stepped things up with the LP. Not all that different, just better production and songs.
― blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
moonship is right w/r/t ChannelPressure sounding like a non-specific 80s album. However, It evokes a lot of thoughts of stylistic shifts through the 80s, for me. Like, where do the early80s end and the late80s begin lol?
― blank, Wednesday, 15 June 2011 03:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Got this on Friday and have been playing non stop since..
Its definitely a nod to the teen film soundtracks of the 80s, with the detuned synths mirroring a VHS losing its tracking during the film titles.
Been trying to place the narrative that was talked up in the hype for this album and I feel that the cover image & teaser video is more of a mood board for the album, rather than a concept album proper.
There's more lyrics/actual songs than I expected and it feels more assured than the games we play ep, this seems more a statement of intent, whist earlier releases were Flopatin just seeing what worked.
In another universe John Hughes is sound-tracking his films to this and twenty years later we're on an internet message board talking about a new synth duo who have released a song called 'Oh Yeah'.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 19 June 2011 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
break inside & too much midi are two tracks of the year imo
what wld the ford&lopatinmobile be like?
― ogmor, Sunday, 19 June 2011 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Spectrist, Sunday, 19 June 2011 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
have a gold star
― ogmor, Sunday, 19 June 2011 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
"too much midi" is pretty incredible after that bridge when the other part of the song kicks in. gotta <3 those synth stabs
didn't realize this was related to adult swim in any way but after the video for "world of regret" i guess it makes sense
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Monday, 20 June 2011 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah the terius/prince bit is a massive treat
CALL ME MR CLUTCH
thanks to spectrist i can now picture this w/ great lucidity
― ogmor, Monday, 20 June 2011 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seemingly every producer has been doing detuned synths for the past couple of years. I fucking hate them by now.
― Matt DC, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm hoping the new neon indian album will be better than this tho i don't expect it to be quite as intricate.
― blueski, Monday, 20 June 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
loved like half of this but was suspicious abt how i could really like something made by the same ppl who made the other half. pretty curious to listen again though
― flopson, Monday, 20 June 2011 16:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think people's initial hesitancy with this record despite their attraction to it, combined with the frequently echoed sentiment of wanting to return to it, bodes really well for its longevity. A lot of my favorite records I struggled with initially, at least in some small way.
― Clarke B., Monday, 20 June 2011 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this...I think having the instrumental disk is ubersavvy, will flip between the two and extend the listening lifespan somewhat.
― Neil O'Jism (Craigo Boingo), Monday, 20 June 2011 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
instrumental disc? what is this? well, it sounds obvious but yeah - not with the vinyl. Bastards.
― kraudive, Monday, 20 June 2011 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know about neon Indian. I only heard the track that basically just samples a rundgren song in it's entirety and adds bad flaming lips style vocals. Does it really have much to do with this?
― so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
I kind of think this album does drag after Joey Rogers, apart from surrender and world of regret.
― so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
so after 8 of 12 only 2 are worth hearing?
Does anybody have an opinion on the Infinity Window record? Someone just passed me a copy - not listened yet (record player bust)
― kraudive, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
The first one? Awesome drone stuff, I recommend it
Is Joey Rodgers not in the middle of the album? Not counting 1st and last tracks (I'm weird)
― so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
people hating on the last half of this disc are somehow discounting the awesomeness of "break inside". it might be the most weeknd-style indie r&b jam on the album but it's still pretty sick
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
is anyone else who likes this having a hard time getting into the com truise record? to me it feels so one-dimensional and wallpapery in comparison
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is it me or does this feel like a very short album? Seems I put it onAnd before I know it it's pretty much over. No draggy bits at all.
― the Sandalled Vandal (dog latin), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 06:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Com Truise is pretty one dimensional but I like it. Fatter low end than F&P
― so confused (blank), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 07:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
So instrumental disc on CD release but not Vinyl or Digital download?
that sucks.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 13:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
com truise is soundtrack music ("wallpapery"), F&L is pop music
― cutty, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i think part of the reason i like com truise & time wharp & milochondria &c &c better than this f+l release is cuz theyre a little more abstract/playful/'about the process' than channel pressure, which aims for pop
― "what a great post" - some (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
i realize what the fundamental differences between the f&l and com truise albums are, one just seems a lot more desireable to me. it's not like channel pressure is routine pop or anything, there are some legit carpenter/moroder-style synth interludes that would probably go down pretty well on the knew age thread among the pop moments. and even the pop songs are surprising and fairly distinct from other stuff in this vein
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Com Truise sounds good and all, but Channel Pressure is another level of achievement entirely--songs-wise (I get that this isn't the "point" of Com Truise, but even compositionally speaking), textures-wise, production-wise. I dunno, that sounds like I'm bashing Com Truise when that's not how I mean it; I suppose I don't think there's much else out there at the moment even comparable to Channel Pressure aside from in some very superficial ways (and if there is, I need to hear it!).
― Clarke B., Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
F&L album is totally amazing, really summons up a Thomas Dolby circa "Golden Age of Wireless" vibe, and yeah I definitely hear Max Tundra in the vocal phrasing and in the overall intense "smarty pants"/cheeky sense of every musical gesture as one saturated with, to be pretentious, "historicity", i.e. it's not just "dated" but very self-consciously embraced-because-dated. Haven't read that "Retromania" book but this seems dying for application to its thesis. A little bit Prince, a little bit Scritti Politti/Ebn Ozn/Thomas Dolby, some of the same VHS Head/Daft Punk aggression in the chopping/editing syntax, lots of hilarious use of the bender/modwheel abuse. So much fun!
― the tune is space, Thursday, 23 June 2011 15:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
can somebody explain what is up with this "instrumentals disc"?
i have the CD in the lp-style cardboard sleeve and as far as i can tell there is no instrumentals disc in the package
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe it is a bonus for illegal downloaders?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've been wondering the same thing.
― Clarke B., Thursday, 23 June 2011 17:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha, i guess it is just an internet thing... not sure where they came from tbh (i sure as hell acquired them illegally)
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe it was a college radio promo type-deal? the only thing that comes up with a google search are college station playlists and mediafire/megaupload/whathaveyou
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
part of the reason i like com truise & time wharp & milochondria &c &c better than this f+l release is cuz theyre a little more abstract/playful/'about the process' than channel pressure, which aims for pop
haha, I take my hat off to anyone who discards the shallow pleasures of this gluttonously produced catchy pop in favour of the Formalist Fun yr speaking about there.
but then does abstract/playful/'about the process' mean treatment of source material or do you mean it adopts that oblique indie pose rather than pull the same tricks off while gorging on all the treats?
― ogmor, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
uhm shit, wrong thread, sorry
― Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
How is Channel Pressure NOT sooo much 'about the process'?!
― Clarke B., Thursday, 23 June 2011 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
that was one of my points. I generally rate lamp's ears though, so maybe that shit is a blast too, I should probably check it out
― ogmor, Saturday, 25 June 2011 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Com Truise sounds good and all, but Channel Pressure is another level of achievement entirely
This is all a matter of what one's priorities are; I don't necc. subscribe to the whole "more details, more depth is always better thing". sometimes ye just want something simple with fat bass and no dorky vocals.
― so confused (blank), Sunday, 26 June 2011 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
i guess i think of 'channel pressure' as being only partially about technology (and our relationship w/ progress or w/e) but stuff like time wharp & tom cruise is much more explcitally concerned w/ that stuff, with using the process of making music to comment on the 'idea' of making music?
like: this is a song called 'Oberheim Matrix-6' which was made on an oberheim matrix-6 vs. this is song called 'Synthetic Vision' and it was made on an [...] and has lyrics about a boy falling in love with a robot on telelvision
― Lamp, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
that is maybe the stupidest post in long history of stupid posts on ilm :/
― Lamp, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
No I think you pretty accurately described a very real aesthetic divide with this stuff.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
com truise remix of hussle club's 'loose tights' wouldn't sound too out of place on channel pressure fwiw
― Dear Projectionist (blueski), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
after bad-mouthing this album earlier in the thread, I ended up impulse buying it the other day after seeing it on a New Releases rack. It's scratching an itch I didn't know I had. I guess I like it after all.
― rockapads, Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
stuff like time wharp & tom cruise is much more explcitally concerned w/ that stuff, with using the process of making music to comment on the 'idea' of making music?
okay, but what's the comment being offered? or is it just "a comment?"
― also we’re divorced now and i hate this movie. (contenderizer), Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://youtu.be/pukb_scv1Ao
hoops fan in me loves that he's called this chuck person
― davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
also the chuck person tape is sooooo good, i say this as someone who has regularly googled sunsetcorp so i can listen to the eccojams
― davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I just picked up volume 7 of the "FRKWYS" series with Lopatin, Laurel Halo, James Ferarro, David Borden, and Samuel Godin, just out on RVNG records. It's really, really good, and I particularly like the last track "Twilight Pacific" with its endlessly repeating Oneohtrix slow melty Juno arpeggio. There's a graininess, a delacquered quality, to Lopatin's ambient stuff that I think sets it apart (in a good way) from the smoother sounds of the Emeralds crew (especially the few Spectrum Spools releases so far), etc. I hear there's a new Oneohtrix LP in the works for release this fall.
― Clarke B., Monday, 25 July 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Last two tracks on the FRKWYS album are fantastic, a fine listen.
― One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oneohtrix playing live this Saturday night at The Stone NYC, 8:00 PM...
― Clarke B., Monday, 8 August 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've seen him live just this Friday and tbh it kinda disappointed me. but I guess the joke's on me - expected more slow melty Juno arpeggios / "chillwave'y" kind of ambient, got more noisy (at times real noisy) stuff instead. at least, in the end it wasn't boring.
― V79, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol i saw him saturday and i mentioned in another thread that i fell asleep in the front row but this is really more my issue than with the music. it was cute how he kept circling his hand to illustrate that he was playing loops. yes i know you are playing loops.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
was it a nice sleep? or just the sleep you could have had on the couch, falling asleep to the **channel pressure**
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 August 2011 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's the nicest kind! I'm definitely going Saturday, and I look forward to seeing what he does... The venue doesn't sell tickets in advance, and I have a long history of underestimating how much NYC crowds will be into a given artist, so I'm trying to figure out how far in advance to line up.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 9 August 2011 00:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.dummymag.com/news/2011/08/17/oneohtrix-point-never-announce-replica/
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
Excellent news.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Clips from the two non-OPN forthcoming releases on Software here:
http://alteredzones.com/posts/1805/software-label-preps-releases-opn-harmonizer-airbird/
Airbird is Ford solo, Harmonizer is Toby Aronson and Greg Davis.
Harmonizer sounding gooooood first time around.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
have u heard the tape they did on nna?
― Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
harmonizer track seems to be channeling jon hassell, nice. dig the sparseness.
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I had the exact same thought. It's terrific in any case.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, and I'll second the nna tape that lamp mentioned. def worth a listen.
have found greg davis' stuff to be a bit spotty but the stuff that clicks really does the trick. and I am really liking the new angle (I think? I certainly haven't heard it all) he's working w/the harmonizer material. could be aronson, I'm not really familiar.
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 06:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
The first OPN single off Replica sounds really freaking promising--creepy cut-off loops that sort of line up with recent Andy Stott and Actress stuff to these ears: http://www.pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12350-sleep-dealer/
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
hrm... i am a huge lopatin stan but this seems like the kind of tune that could really use some of the immersive sound engineering skills of an actress or andy stott, but instead he's doing the same old midi-fied schtick. i could still maybe be persuaded by a better quality mp3
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 10 September 2011 04:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah this is good
kinda reminds me of oval
kept expecting a kick drum to come in but really glad it didn't
what does "same old midi-fied schtick" mean
― missingNO, Saturday, 10 September 2011 09:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
"attention to detail"
U trollin
― lukas, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
can you explain? do you hear some level of intricacy in the sound design on this track that my ears are too ignorant to pick up? it's a style that forces you to pay attention to texture, and this texture sounds muddy imo. and whatever pitch that distortion is in gives me a headache every time (not that i can't handle extreme/high pitched tones, just give me ryoji ikeda over this any day)
these criticisms don't apply to any other opn material fwiw
this harmonizer thing with greg davis on the software label sounds awesome tho, some definite jon hassell vibes
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 05:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
ha, looking upthread i realize i am a bit late on the harmonizer woops
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 06:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
This song seems kind of a chore to listen to
― The-Dreams That Money Can Buy (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
its like a rubbish footwork remix of a opn track. the ominous chillwave undertow is the best thing about it
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 September 2011 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
psychgawsple, you likely have better ears than i do - maybe if i had your ears the sound would drive me nuts. that said, this is a track with tape hiss and a sense of unease, from a dude that loves the pathos of dusty gear. the low-quality samples fit. personally my favorite moments are when he gets past that, i'm thinking of moments on the f+l record and much of returnal. but thinking that the track would be better if oval produced it is missing the point.
― lukas, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm liking 'channel pressure' but it's a little too jumpy? fuck concept albums imo. there's so many cool moves and great little moments but i just feel like they should all get their own song. i thought 'that we can play' was really moving, this doesn't let its ideas breathe as much, even though a lot of it is a step up, idk
― banana mogul (goole), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya i get that the fidelity stuff is deliberate, but i like tape hiss (usually) and i just don't think it suits that style. but w/e i think an album of him attempting similar things from different directions could be great
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116226967300358144
https://twitter.com/0pn/status/116229792520617984
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116238295104622592
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haha. The next best thing since Loutellica: Oneothrix Point Cuomo.
― 'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
OMG, if this happens I am SO over Loutallica.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp - i know what you mean about channel pressure being both a step up and a step down... did you like the instrumentals tho? if you wanted things to have more room to breathe that might be a good option
lol no way that collab can be bad right?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
ooh wee ooh I look just like a lossy VHS of buddy holly
― ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
god damn you half cybertronic girls, you do it 2 me every time
― memories of c-murder (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
"hrm... i am a huge lopatin stan but this seems like the kind of tune that could really use some of the immersive sound engineering skills of an actress or andy stott, but instead he's doing the same old midi-fied schtick. i could still maybe be persuaded by a better quality mp3"
"it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?"
This doesn't make any sense to me. Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital; OPN, up until the new album, has worked mostly with analog gear, and not a ton of audible processing. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "MIDI-fied schtick."
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah the Oval comparison hit me when i heard this new material live the other week at field day. Id say the closest parallel is the first field album which was pretty lo-fi but had its charm. The Pitchfork track was probably the poppiest moment and not really representative, the rest of the loops were seriously mangled (though occasional hiphop rhythms would surface) and there was a lot more oval style information overload noise like the first track on returnal. Overall it left me puymped for the new album.
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Listening again its the field if he was more into theo parrish
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Totally stoked for Weezabix Point Never
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital
i guess actress uses effects/distortion in a way that doesn't strike me as 'lo-fi' at all? and when i talk about lopatin becoming more lo-fi and more digital i am referring to the games/ford and lopatin releases, he even had a song called "too much midi" fer chrissakes (not to mention an entire album of overblown digital pop). and tho i loved these production values/midi schtick on channel pressure i think it sounds distracting on this new song, like it's being used more in the manner you would find on a ltd edition tape release on a boutique label- sorta slapped on top of the song for effect instead of placed within the song in a dynamic way? i'm really sick of explaining this btw
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
just chill and ride the soundwaves bro
― #@_@# (Lamp), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
fer real i need a smoke
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 22 September 2011 06:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pre-orders for the new record now up... http://oneohtrixpointnever.bigcartel.com/
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
audiophile bundle is very tempting
― jeff tＷＥＥＤy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol cmon really?
― señorita buttstench (Lamp), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
he's playing a free gig on the boston waterfront today, apparently--let me know if you want to come with
― geeta, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Another Replica track, "Andro" (which IMO sounds much more like 'classic'/sleepy/synth-led OPN than "Sleep Dealer", but still has that added rhythmic/sample-loop element in the background) starts off this Mixcloud mix:http://pregnantkettle.blogspot.com/2011/09/lost-idol-morning-glory-26th-september.html
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
(Nice little Black Dice-y bongo/hand-drum bit at the end of the track, though)
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like the artist and i like cool stuff and i like being able to pay a little more to support the artist and his projects
plus i imagine if i ever decide to sell the test pressing, the bundle will end up paying for itself
― jeff tＷＥＥＤy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 21:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/oneohtrix-point-never-replica
newt rack
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Thursday, 13 October 2011 02:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
recalls vincent gallo, boards, opn, etc. better than "sleep dealer" !
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Saturday, 15 October 2011 01:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
Enjoying Never more than I thought I would. Really like Nassau. The whole thing sounds more IDMy than to me previous works. I like the vocal snips.
― mmmm, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
new OPN streaming here: http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/sets/oneohtrix-point-never-replica. never listened to this dude before, like it more than i expected to.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
rest of it sounds better to me than "Sleep Dealer." pretty cool overall, don't like it as much as "Rifts" though.
― dmr, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is distractingly annoying at times imo but it has some ok moments. doubt i'll listen to it very often
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
the last track, in particular, is really nice.
i think the new james ferraro thing was p much exactly what i wanted this album to be tho... so at least that exists
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
new james ferraro is very excellent
― lukas, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 06:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Very different from the last one but I like it.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Thursday, 3 November 2011 03:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think the new james ferraro thing was p much exactly what i wanted this album to be tho
haha :/
― RR (Lamp), Thursday, 3 November 2011 06:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
still don't get why you don't like that!
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 4 November 2011 01:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'll join the chorus of ppl who prefer rifts. i get that he couldn't keep making synth drone forever for fear that he'd turn into jean-michel jarre and, like, play casinos or something... but the synth stuff was so much nicer aesthetically. i read his interviews and it seems like he's for sure making important art
trying to let this one grow on me. i figure there's a real possibility that it'll happen - like, i find jarre to be extremely listenable but unchallenging to the point of being boring, while on the flip side i've revisited some noisey drone stuff that previously fucked with my head (whitehouse) to surprisingly positive results.
so yeah... in sum: cool album, tough listen, but i'll cut it some slack cuz OPN seems like a rad dude who knows what's up
― oneohtrix point zero (fennel cartwright), Friday, 4 November 2011 03:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dig the first track where it goes through a few different sections, especially the shift in the last minute or so
― dmr, Friday, 4 November 2011 04:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dig returnal way more than rifts, guessing I'll be into this
― lukas, Friday, 4 November 2011 06:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
can we agree that returnal is a summer album? like, it captures some weight-y--heat on the planet's surface -type-of-'jams'new one feels kinda lite
― Lowell N. Behold'n, Friday, 4 November 2011 07:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
i do not think that this new record sounds 'lite' at all, there are some relentless moments on there
i also don't think it sounds much like returnal, which was wayyy more similar to rifts imo
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 4 November 2011 07:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
After listening to Rifts on five separate occasions, in different contexts and on different players, I think I finally have to admit that I'm really not feeling this one at all.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 5 November 2011 17:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wait, are you saying you don't like Rifts or the new one?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh sorry, I mean Replica. I love Rifts.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 5 November 2011 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
really like this album!!
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 04:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
the sample stuff makes sense to me, given that both the times ive seen him in the past year he's been doing the live midi laptop thing. kinda wish it were easier to tour with tons of synth gear tho
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 04:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
here's a pretty good article for nerds http://www.dummymag.com/features/2011/11/04/technique-oneohtrix-point-never-replica/
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is on Spotify, btw. finally listened to it all the way through. Not into the chopped up stuff, but the album starts and finishes strong. Glad to see him trying new stuff, but he had some huge shoes to fill with Returnal, which was pretty much perfect.
― rockapads, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not into the chopped up stuff, but the album starts and finishes strong.
that's pretty much where I'm at too
― dmr, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Article in The Quietus where Daniel picks his 13 favourite albums:
http://thequietus.com/articles/07365-oneohtrix-point-never-favourite-albums
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice list but yet killin' me with all the paging, quietus!!
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
*'yer' not 'yet'
he also did this mix: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/7987/
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Good list. Gotta check out that Tom Recchion LP now.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea that's the one I'm most curious about as well
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
drool
― next thing she's shaving my skrillex (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
they had 12 out of the 13 on spotify so I made a playlist out of it, only missing #13 (La Haine OST)
http://open.spotify.com/user/deadheatnyc/playlist/4TmolZA3kJdRSBz3lFssKW
― dmr, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
brave new world.
thanks, dmr!
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
no prob
― dmr, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
that Tom Recchion album is pretty wonderful. it's all loops pulled from old Esquivel records and mixed live, if i'm not mistaken. And considering how Tom's love of exotica had a profound influence on David Toop's book, you know he can be trusted.
― beta blog, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
the vocal tracks on that Eduard Artemiev are pretty dire. "Warmth of Earth" the title track was pretty sweet though.
man SAW II is a long record. haven't listened to that in a while.
― dmr, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 22:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Achh, there was this short edit/rework he did of an 80s soul/pop/something like that song with a video of this colourful comet-trail triangle or something that like that I saw awhile ago but can't for the life of me find now. Can someone link me to this please.
― Noise II Men (EDB), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
― next thing she's shaving my skrillex (NickB), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 23:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
THANKING U
― Noise II Men (EDB), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha plax linked this in his chillwave thread
― *_* (Lamp), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
lots of old favs on that list. i think most of my fav recchion is on chaotica. shit like perpetual motion clock kind of reminds me of replica
― ogmor, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
loving this album. the way he uses loops sounds really fresh to me for some reason.
― lukas, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not sure whether this has been posted before, but it's great:
http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/ford-and-lopatin-i-surrender-peaking-lights
― fun drive (seandalai), Thursday, 17 November 2011 00:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm really digging Replica. I don't really know his other work all that much, but the weird loops reminds me of old kompakt stuff like Dettinger. And the stuff with piano is achingly beautiful (especially the title track). Weirdly has the same vibe as the new Drake album (sorry).
Not sure what I think of the James Ferraro. It's interesting, but kind of too silly for my tastes. Reminds me of some weird 3d animated factory videos that used to play on budget cable channels late at night accompanied by midi classical music. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
And the ford and lopatin kinda sounds like a pop album based on those same sounds. I dig them, but I don't love them.
― jaxon, Thursday, 17 November 2011 01:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ha. This is the closest thing I could find to what I was talking about, even though it's not exactly what I was thinking. And tbh, it's kinda awesome.
― jaxon, Thursday, 17 November 2011 01:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
tom recchion connection makes a lot of sense w/replica, which just makes me want to listen to recchion instead
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 17 November 2011 04:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
0PN emeralds and the like should release the MIDI tracks as like a bonus download or something
― sk8 bush (diamonddave85), Thursday, 17 November 2011 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Man, I listened to Replica, and I was like ~shrug~.
Ford and Lopatin, though: that's the jam.
― Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Thursday, 17 November 2011 05:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
^ word
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 17 November 2011 09:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
the james ferraro record is definitely v ridiculous, more feeling out of an aesthetic than a record mb. it's so evocative - reminds me of plenty of shit like jaxon posted: windows 95 game Hover!, wii music - but retrospectively captures/redefines that essence better than any of things it's borrowing from, like some uber pure 90s corporate video muzak. all the ferraro records i've listened to have had that v strong sense of dreamy, dislocated mass-media virtuality, & it's part of the power of it, but idk how much listening i'll get out of this one. but yeah, despite the resonances, or mb because it has myriad resonances, it's kind of like nothing else i've ever heard, so you have to hand it to him
― ogmor, Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
one track samples the Wii start-up noise
I like Replica a lot more than that Ferarro album though
― dmr, Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
one track on the Ferarro I mean
― dmr, Thursday, 17 November 2011 19:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I, on the other hand, shrugged at Ford & Lopatin; for me, Replica's his best work so far by far.
― Rune Slambamthankyouma'amophon (Craig D.), Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Child Soldier" kills me esp.--someone could (if not should) make a Latin Rascals-style freestyle edit of that.
― Rune Slambamthankyouma'amophon (Craig D.), Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
im almost certain that ferraro lifts from the first boomblox sdtrk on that record (im sure ive mentioned this before) also from like mac promo videos circa 1998. idk theres a bunch of direct refs to stuff all that turn of the century techno-optimism, digitial new age shit
― Lamp, Thursday, 17 November 2011 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
music for looking at gifs on tumblr.
i do like this though. i was not feeling Sleep Dealer at all when i first heard it, but it makes more sense within the context of the album.
"Child Soldier" kills me esp
this came up on shuffle in the car the other day and i thought it was something from MAYA at first.
― circa1916, Saturday, 19 November 2011 05:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea it's getting harder to ignore the appeal of parts of replica, ESPECIALLY the first and last tracks. i think i'm still sorta reeling from the initial jarring reaction of dissonant loops mixed in with the granular synth chillage of his other stuff, but it's not that much of a departure really and he's doing it in a way that shows a real admiration for dudes like recchion and reich and all the best avant loopers.
but honestly it doesn't even come close to the last 2 records, saying otherwise is massive hyperbole imo
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 19 November 2011 09:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
i can't stop loving replica. his weird stretched out tape loop stuff was always the best (see "demoral"). kind of reminds me of some of terre thaemlitz' stuff, in terms of using samples to tease emotions out of the listener in a convoluted way. at the same time, it's very "natural" sounding.. in an "office space field recordings" kind of way.
― neutral sequence for flute (blank), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah replica is the bomb
― flopson, Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
this passed me by for w/e reason but is certainly of note: http://soundcloud.com/mexicansummer/shannon-f-ford-lopatin-snakes#new-timed-comment-at-190938
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 05:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
the b-side of that with tamaryn is nice too
― real 69 for my sham friends (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 08:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
just heard this for the first time. probably about 2 years late for the train. the video for replica does something weird to me.
― jumpskins, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rifts is a really good collection. I've been falling asleep to it for the last week!
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rifts is still the best one I find
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 19 April 2012 09:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Replica is wonderful, I’ve really come around on it since initially balking at Sleep Dealer and the new direction. His best, most interesting work by a good bit imo.
― circa1916, Thursday, 19 April 2012 13:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Picked up 'Trans Fat' by Infinity Window last night...that's some cold shit.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 19 April 2012 18:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
had an opposite reaction to everyone else itt re: on the sampling on replica. it comes off as faux-naif and doesn't rly gel with the synths in a way i can enjoy
my take on ferraro is... kinda lol mostly garbage
― lebron traveled (am0n), Thursday, 19 April 2012 20:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
new track is cool:
http://soundcloud.com/oneohtrix-point-never/song1opn
― circa1916, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
that is pretty pretty goodi think i prefer the field's deconstruction, but all in all awesome stuff
― nathey, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
i feel like there's some sort of essay to be written about sampling/nostalgia/eeriness and the many lives of that flamingos track (which as to be one of the spookiest love songs ever btw) (i.e. American Graffiti, Fugees' "zealots", the Field track, and these great new covers)
― caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
my favorite use (09:00) :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5855088917937778770
― Stormy Davis, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Has anyone written an essay about the song's critical SYNTAX ERROR?
Or maybe the song WAS intended to be about sexual objectification.
― Grusin' Gang (Andy K), Friday, 11 May 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
same issue w/ God Only Knows, ppl need to stay on top of that shit
been jamming this song a lot, it scratches a certain sort of itch for me & fills a little blissed out niche v neatly
― ogmor, Saturday, 12 May 2012 10:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
should there be a post here every single time he posts anything to soundcloud? probably, right?
MEET YOUR CREATOR
― hot slag (lukas), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 04:00 (10 months ago) Permalink
ummmm
this is amazing for many many reasons
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 07:25 (10 months ago) Permalink
it's pretty great. the part where the flying robots form the infinity symbol is like, wow.
― dmr, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:31 (10 months ago) Permalink
uuuuuuugh, so good it hurts
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:41 (10 months ago) Permalink
bit flashy isn't it
― vienna1896, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 15:43 (10 months ago) Permalink
quadrotors are the perfect robot for opn
― ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 18:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
animusic for hipsters
― am0n, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 19:42 (10 months ago) Permalink
more like a retro daito manabe
― ogmor, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 23:02 (10 months ago) Permalink
daito & this kind of stuff need its own thread mb
So the Ford & Lopatin album seemed a bit slept on, it's really lovely. The remix album is sounding pretty great too, they got some excellent people in for that (Russom, Braxe, Optimo, The Bug etc.)
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 30 July 2012 12:29 (9 months ago) Permalink
love the split LP with Rene Hell.
Not digging this one so far
― hot slag (lukas), Monday, 17 September 2012 20:39 (8 months ago) Permalink
man "channel pressure" has sakamoto/ymo sonic references all over it
― silver pozole (clouds), Sunday, 6 January 2013 16:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
time was this was a oneohtrix point never thread then it became a thread about a lot of other things
― things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 6 January 2013 16:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
lopatin's a prolific dude
― silver pozole (clouds), Sunday, 6 January 2013 17:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
i have been so impressed with the quality of releases on software.
the autre ne veut single was a surprise gem for me; made it quite high on my 2012 tracks list despite a bizarre and unnecessary mykki blanco verse.
i was even more delighted by this pete swanson song they released - i wasn't previously familiar with yellow swans, which has been a revelation in and of itself. anyways, i particularly like this beat-driven approach that swanson is using now, and am eager to hear the full EP in march.
very curious to see what lopatin & co. pull out of their magic hat next. they're on a winning streak!
― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:49 (3 months ago) Permalink
pete swanson's output has been worth following in the last year or so. i've never got into yellow swans, though! time to hunt for a thread.
― mh, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:28 (3 months ago) Permalink
http://thewire.co.uk/img/scale/460/561/2013/01/16/cover348.jpg
lopatin reminds me of one particular ilm poster
― moët plaudit (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
Just popping in to mention the Brassica remix of Ford & Lopatin, which I can't. stop. playing this week
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:44 (3 months ago) Permalink
Was there any talk about the Hecker & Lopatin album? Might be lost in the message fold
― mh, Saturday, 26 January 2013 03:10 (3 months ago) Permalink
anyone know what song is sampled in the second eccojam track?
― pilgrimage to funky cold medina (clouds), Friday, 8 February 2013 20:28 (3 months ago) Permalink
oh, i figured it out
― pilgrimage to funky cold medina (clouds), Friday, 8 February 2013 20:37 (3 months ago) Permalink
I've heard the Hecker & Lopatin album once. I didn't love it. It didn't make me want to investigate further but I bought the CD so I will try again.
― kraudive, Sunday, 10 February 2013 22:18 (3 months ago) Permalink
I'm slowly getting into it. "Vaccination" was slaying me recently.
― eris bueller (lukas), Sunday, 10 February 2013 23:04 (3 months ago) Permalink
The Rifts vinyl set is still out there at some vendors. I bit the bullet and copped it a few weeks back and its insanely beautiful/sounds great, highest possible recommendation. The definitive release of that along with the breakup of Emeralds and the left turn of the last OPN full-length (Replica) and the rise of Ford & Lopatin-type stuff has me thinking "RIP Synth Revival: 2006 - 2012" maybe.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 11 February 2013 00:38 (3 months ago) Permalink
which venders? i tried to get it as soon as it came out and it was already sold out in the handful of places i normally order from!
― Z S, Monday, 11 February 2013 00:44 (3 months ago) Permalink
this is going to be an expensive evening because i just realized selected ambient works vol II was reissued last year, too.
― Z S, Monday, 11 February 2013 00:45 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yikes looks like it really is gone everywhere. I got a new/sealed one off Discogs for $60 just a few weeks ago, price seems to have doubled in that timeframe. Apologies for getting your hopes up, maybe they will re-press it.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 11 February 2013 00:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
Dude is on the cover of the Wire this month. Dayum.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 11 February 2013 00:53 (3 months ago) Permalink
Returnal became a favorite of mine at some point last year, and this year I just caught up to Replica and it's become a favorite as well. Most of the time it has just the sort of sound I want in electronic music (not that I listen to much of it--but I listen to much of Oneohtrix Point Never).
he wrings so much melancholy out of his equipment
Yes. Guess I should make time to read this thread, which I'm pretty sure I've only ever quickly skimmed.
― _Rudipherous_, Monday, 8 April 2013 02:58 (1 month ago) Permalink
Mexican Summer is doing individual re-pressings of all of the LPs included in the Rifts box set.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 8 April 2013 03:37 (1 month ago) Permalink
a guy i know pronounces this 'oh - neo - tricks' and now i can never spell it right
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Friday, 19 April 2013 22:24 (1 month ago) Permalink
I have never known how to pronounce it due to no one in real life knowing who the fuck he is. I always think one oh trix and feel like an asshole
― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Friday, 19 April 2013 23:09 (1 month ago) Permalink
well yr a correct asshole at least. it's a pun on a radio station called 106.7
― ogmor, Friday, 19 April 2013 23:37 (1 month ago) Permalink
i always assumed that but i only learnt about the radio thing from this thread. such a weirdly arbitrary name though
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Friday, 19 April 2013 23:48 (1 month ago) Permalink
unless the radio is, like, 24/7 transmitting the sound of modems crying from the other side of a black hole
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Friday, 19 April 2013 23:49 (1 month ago) Permalink
listening for the first time to the pete swanson track linked a couple months back. wow. was never a fan of his yellow swans, but this is hitting me nice yes indeed. want moar.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:29 (1 month ago) Permalink
Hyperpyrexia is a fever with an extreme elevation of body temperature greater than or equal to 41.5 °C (106.7 °F).[13] Such a high temperature is considered a medical emergency as it may indicate a serious underlying condition or lead to significant side effects.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 April 2013 02:36 (1 month ago) Permalink
you should definitely listen to more pete swanson! I've said it elsewhere, but his live show was excellent, too.
― Dr. Adorbius (mh), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:14 (1 month ago) Permalink
wound up tubing a bunch of recent PS. dug a lot of it, though "life ends at 30" is a clear standout in terms of well-balanced noise to beat ratio. also dig
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:20 (1 month ago) Permalink
my jam
― Dr. Adorbius (mh), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:34 (1 month ago) Permalink
yeah, listened to that one a bunch of times
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Saturday, 20 April 2013 03:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
I have never known how to pronounce it due to no one in real life knowing who the fuck he is.
i know a few people irl who know who he is, they just don't like him. :(
― love's secret borad (clouds), Saturday, 20 April 2013 11:44 (1 month ago) Permalink
^this. idgi what's not to like?
― So: The Answers (or something), Saturday, 20 April 2013 12:13 (1 month ago) Permalink
I'd thought the pun was '1-0-Tricks-Point-Never,' like digital_tricks.no_version
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 20 April 2013 12:24 (1 month ago) Permalink
people heard the clinic remix record thing?
― ogmor, Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:26 (1 month ago) Permalink
yeah, it's good. not a big clinic fan (or a hater), but i checked it out due to the opn connection. like it enough that i'm now interested in hearing the delopatinated version.
― I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Sunday, 21 April 2013 15:45 (1 month ago) Permalink
track two of 'betrayed in the octagon' is on a serious 'oh thank fuck i found the room with the typewriter and the item box' tip
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 22:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
so is track six to be fair
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:09 (1 week ago) Permalink
it's (weird? novel? heartening? on a deeper level terrifying?) how much the early stuff conjures up videogame associations for me but in real life
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:10 (1 week ago) Permalink
probably because in terms of tone generation/composition it's not far off 16-bit and 32-bit games (when the latter didn't go cd for their soundtracks ..) but the use of echo, delay, stereo space, recorder grot gives it a different sense of volume, engagement
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:11 (1 week ago) Permalink
UP
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 12 May 2013 21:36 (1 week ago) Permalink