Kanye West - Dark Twisted Fantasy

first, we pour one out for kl0pper -- wherever you are, i hope 'graduation' is there pleasing yeh

alright so supposedly this is gonna be kanye's 'return to real rap!'/boom bap album or whatever. he was out recording in hawaii for a while and last night he was out in nyc playing tracks. a british dj had this to say (via nah right):

Okay, so I’ve heard the first Kanye West joint. I was sworn to secrecy. I’m not allowed to talk about it. All I can say is it is banging. If that’s a taste of what’s coming on the album, he has smacked it. Lyrically….he is saying things like, ‘Wow, he said that?’ It is going to shock everybody, the first record.

again, he is british, so let's keep that in mind.

but pharrell echoes the sentiments!

I had the chance to listen to the new Kanye West album. I think that people are going to be shocked. His precedent was crazy, this new one goes even farther.

but i'm also sure that pharrell shocked himself with some of the music he's put out in the past 5 years, and we all know how that's gone

in any event it will be interesting to see what kanye is up to with this album. his albums have almost always been as interesting to talk about/think about from a conceptual standpoint as they have been to listen to (and sometimes more fun i.e. graduation imo). i'm imagining a single like "can't tell me nothing", but as was pointed out in my seminal 'worst kanye west guest verse of 2009' his rapping has kind of become intolerable recently. but his albums seem to bring out the best in him.

it is supposedly dropping in sept btw which seems pretty reasonable and god knows the industry is starved for a big event album

he's been on a steady slope of less exciting and more annoying for me for almost 5 years now, still have some optimism that he can reverse the trajectory but i'm not counting on it. he was hyping BP3 as a return to REAL RAP too.

oh, i liked the last disc a lot.

lmao @ "again, he is british"

this will likely be awful tho

what zeitgeist-grabbing guests/producers/samples do you think will be on this one? my predictions are Lady Gaga, Kings of Leon, Nicki Minaj, and Hall & Oates.

drake, slick rick, brandon flowers

with an outside chance of the singer from phoenix

samples: a gucci mane ad lib

"first, we pour one out for kl0pper -- wherever you are, i hope 'graduation' is there pleasing yeh"

lmao

oh man i want to hear kanye + brandon flowers!

u_u

^this

oh man i want to hear kanye + brandon flowers!

O_O

what zeitgeist-grabbing guests/producers/samples do you think will be on this one? my predictions are . . . Hall & Oates.

i love this idea.

ya, that could be dope

"Power" is....aight? better than i expected i guess, but it keeps going and going and i can't see really wanting to hear it as often as i'm sure i will.

i like it. and i don't suppose it will be everywhere here. this can't be the first single, right? this just screams album track like barry bonds etc. were

he tends to drop a SERIOUS RAP SONG before the big pop hit but still push it pretty hard w/ a video and everything ("Diamonds," "Can't Tell Me Nothing" etc.), i imagine that's the case here too.

what's up with his voice on this, it's kinda drake-y

this is pretty cool -- his rapping is mixed a bit too low i think, but the beat is kinda epic if a little messy

does feel a bit long tho yeah

is anyone gonna talk about the KING CRIMSON sample???? that took me by surprise

Saw it mentioned here and there. Nice touch!

He kind of gets lost in this beat, no?

Yeah, you got to it before I did, J0rdan. His vocals are mixed quite low... weird, 'Ye's never had that problem before.

Is he actually dissing SNL?

Fuck SNL and the whole cast
Tell 'em Yeezy said they could kiss my whole ass
More specifically they could kiss my asshole
I’m an asshole?
You niggas got joooooookes!

Is the last line actually saying he's NOT dissing them? I'm confused.

i guess they did a few jokes about him after the Taylor Swift thing but they were like 1% of the people that made fun of him after that, pretty weird even for him to be all YEAH EVEN YOU ABBY ELLIOTT

kanye in being unnecessarily butthurt shocker

Yeah, I don't get it for the sole reason he went on SNL and poked fun at HIMSELF... I thought he was more self-aware than that... and like, he is pretty introspective on this track (I particularly like ""They say I was the abomination of Obama's nation/ Well, that's a pretty bad way to start the conversation" couplet). It just seems backwards for him. Like a poorer version of "Can't Tell Me Nothing," topically.

i think that line is awful -- the #1 example on this song of kanye's extreme slide towards trying to be tooooooo clever

I like it mostly for the fact he's poking fun at himself with the second line, not for the too-clever wordplay of the first, which I still kind of like.

how is he poking fun at himself? it just seems like a whatever way to resolve the couplet.

Well, I interpret that line as Kanye saying he acknowledges his dumb-ass behavior has become the focus of people's discussion about him, it clouds anything else he's trying to do, and that's definitely a pretty bad way to start ANY conversation, in the sense that people's perception of him is already clouded into thinking he's an asshole, etc etc. He knows this, is what the line's saying to me.

Also -- I'm not saying Kanye ISN'T an asshole.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/05/why_is_kanye_mad_at_snlem.html

when you think about it kanye got off light for only 3 bits about him (one inevitable Update piece, and 2 when they had hosts that all but HAD to say something about it)

http://images.nymag.com/images/2/daily/2009/10/20091013_pastelle_250x375.jpg

btw this thread may become my rolling 'pictures of kanye looking sad in brightly colored clothing' blog

haha he namedrops austin powers in "power"

is austin powers ready for a critical reevaluation?

at what point in the last ten years have rappers not been referencing austin powers?

austin powers thing was totally rolling my damn eyes

lol

king crimson, austin powers what a crazy post-modern musical landscape we have here

this is totally boring

First Austin Powers movie is a classic.

yeah this isn't good

btw this thread may become my rolling 'pictures of kanye looking sad in brightly colored clothing' blog

Here's my contribution:

http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kanye-297x300.jpg

nah the color really needs to pop

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/10/17/alg_singer_kanye-west.jpg

??

lol

HOLY HELL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFU9nOD7NQc

HOLY zzzzzzzz

http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/53daf210b9eb64b7e5f2ceafe05f8499_haters_keep_on_hatin-6777.jpg

Great reply! xp

This feels like a step backwards after 808s and Heartbreak. If the drums had been a straight-up D&B beat rather than a watered-down homage, it would have been a stronger song IMO.

oof so if, say, like me, you were a person that thought 808s sucked and was a huge step back already, you should steer clear of this i guess

I don't feel like its a step back, just sort of a lateral move really. It isn't better than 85% of 808s but tbh, so much better than I was anticipating this single to be. I'm really thankful that its NOT straight up D&B, that would be horrible. I do have to admit that I really love the sample, which may be coloring my opinion of the rest of the song.

<3 kanye <3

It's a bunch of bombast with no real anchor, basically. I might grow to like it but there's nothing about the song that makes it stand out or tries to earworm you, completely unlike the stronger 808s songs ("Love Lockdown", "Paranoid", "Welcome To Heartbreak")

I don't think "Power" is amazing but I like the chanting and the King Crimson sample and I thought 808s was kind of a snooze so I'm glad it doesn't sound like that

808s was super navel-gazing; if you're not predisposed towards that, it's a much harder sell.

Fortunately I'm a big dopey goth so it was kind of like Kanye was pandering to me with that album.

If he continues with the prog samples, he'll certainly be pandering to me!

If I had a problem with navel-gazing, I would not post "<3 kanye <3"

My problem with 808s was more the boring autotune singing and the lack of rapping and fun. I did like "Love Lockdown" and maybe one or two other tunes, and I appreciated that he was trying something a little different/unexpected.

IMO there's a difference between being all into yourself (aka Kanye throughout the entirety of his career) and being a big navel-gazer (aka 808s; super insular, not very expressive or expansive, way more interested in entertaining yourself than other people). I thought that Kanye's self-obsession and the really unflattering picture it painted of him was a really involving listen, one that was much deeper than probably even he realized; like, I think he knew he was walking an unpleasant road but I don't think he intended the process of exorcising his relationship demons to be that harsh on the listener's image of him.

I don't know, I just really, really loved that album. Except for "Pinocchio Story", that was some bullshit.

wait, what does this song have to do with drum'n'bass (and/or Dave & Buster's)?

i'm really just tired of dude doing clunky 'aggressive' songs that sound like "2 Words"

It doesn't; it just has a busy, active drumbeat and I would have liked it more if it was full-on sped-up Amen breaks.

oh ok. they will bang this shit out at Dave & Buster's though i bet

i thought that was a pretty great performance, at least for a few minutes -- i don't have massive hopes for this album or anything, considering how kanye has rapped in the past year or year and a half and considering some of the clunkers on "power" itself == but i am glad that he's back

idk he was like, hopping around a mic stand on top of a paper mache volcano in front of an Imax movie about the Himalayas, what's so great about it?

you pretty much just answered your own question there

it was very Kanye, altho he should've come off the mountain after like minute 2

dude it's a family show

ew >:o

i'm sure it looked pretty hokey in person, but the fact that they managed to get some of those snow globe shots on the BET awards' shoestring budget (how many rappers mics worked properly? half?) has got to be some sort of success.

also i like to imagine that after the song ended and they wheeled his paper maiche volcano backstage he just stayed up there for the remainder of the show.

i get that everything Kanye does is really about being 'grandiose' or 'forward-thinking' or whatever, but when he uses the same kinds of gestures over and over to that end, it really just comes off kind of anti-climactic and bereft of ideas. i mean, i know Kanye wants people to go HOLY SHIT after a performance like that, i just can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would.

it was very Kanye, altho he should've come off the mountain after like minute 2

― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Monday, June 28, 2010 1:11 PM (1 hour ago)

dude it's a family show

― Opinions are a lot like assholes. You've got LOTS of BOTH of them. (HI DERE)

Actual LOL, thanks to you both.

haha totally

this sounds like crack music. i mean, one of the reasons i was a big 808s defender is because i took it as a momentary diversion, not a future direction, but it still sounded hella fresher than this. and damn dude just can't stay away from austin powers.

haha i thought that perf was kinda endearingly cheapo compared to his usual big deals, i dunno

dude couldve saved a couple extra bucks and seen if the temple from lost was still in storage somewhere imo

xp yeah i imagine this will be a back-to-kanye-basics comfort album, maybe with some gil scott heron type agitatory b.s thrown in

i don't really mind personally - at very least i think it's a well-judged move and exactly what ppl want from him again whether they enjoy that fact or not

what's up with his voice on this rap today, it's kinda drake-y

― J0rdan S., Friday, May 28, 2010 3:17 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

every time I hear that song, I just want to listen to King Crimson

here's a totally awesome version of Norwegian deathjazz crew Shining doing "21st Century Schizoid Man" that ALSO CAME OUT THIS YEAR which is better than the Kanye version any day of the week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eXUjfVPkGk

"Is that apple not up to your usual standards, well then here's an ORANGE!"

shut the fuck up, he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0)

Seriously dude? Fuck off right back at you then. I take back any nice things I said about you.

shining are boring

"Is that apple not up to your usual standards, well then here's an ORANGE!"

big lol from over here

damn, i was only kidding dude :(

u_u

Gee, hard to believe I might misconstrue "shut the fuck up".

the thing is, when you write mean shit in a deadpan style most people can't actually tell that you're kidding

i pretty much never mean it when i tell somebody to stfu on ilx :/

So much for that 2009 Whiney thread where you declared yourself Mr. Positive for a week or so, amirite?

shut the fuck up, ilxor

this sounds like crack music. i mean, one of the reasons i was a big 808s defender is because i took it as a momentary diversion, not a future direction, but it still sounded hella fresher than this. and damn dude just can't stay away from austin powers.

― call all destroyer, Monday, June 28, 2010 4:19 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this post is otm, 808s as much as i like it at least was a one-off, now he's like "back to saving rap!" and it's his same old same old. and i kept thinking of the song today and getting "Crack Music" stuck in my head instead.

hug it out, dudes

i pretty much never mean it when i tell somebody to stfu on ilx :/

― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 28, 2010 3:46 PM (7 minutes ago)

shut the fuck up, ilxor

― Mr. Zomg 6 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, June 28, 2010 3:49 PM (3 minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llIQUqfljr0

ilxor and jon, i have nothing but love, you don't really have to stfu afaik

stfu

loooooooool I come on this thread expecting nowt but rolling snap and Whiney's only gone and posted a track from my (about as non-snap as it's possible to be) album of the year so far

o_O

also wait does he sample 21CSM?! that's one of my favourite songs ever, must hear this now

Have any of the Madlib-produced Kanye tracks leaked yet?

love the background (although they're really more like foreground) vocals on that kanye track. it reminds me more of the choir on lil wayne's "best rapper alive" than "crack music".

love that early 70s hand drawn album art steez he ripped off for hte single cover but drawing a blank on albums that were inspiration for it

http://www.teamsuprememusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/POWER-600x600.png

this looks like a job for scott seward

this was the first one that came to mind

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_EpC1K6KZzNA/SB-Z7qrdGeI/AAAAAAAANTA/2r6BGBhHGCU/s400/col_sapcor12_a.jpg

http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1490/cover_13401717102008.jpg

wow. how far is he going with the hip hip-prog thing. cover is great.

http://i27.tinypic.com/oj3612.jpg

dug 'power' when it came on the radio today but it came on right after 'omg' and I went 'hmm'

'The album is no longer called 'Good Ass Job' I'm bouncing a couple of titles around now'

Almost misread that.

huh

Also, no shoutouts to Perez Hilton anymore plz.

bouncing a couple of titties obv

Up early in the morning taking meetings in Silicone Valley
about 2 hours ago via web

Lol I spelled Silicon wrong ( I guess I was still thinking about the other type of silicone ITS A PROCESS!! : )
about 1 hour ago via web

he performed some songs acapella at the Facebook offices... "chain heavy" and "mama's boyfriend" sound great

Too many shout outs, Mozart

If the new title is indeed Dark Twisted Fantasy, that might actually be worse than Good Ass Job.

if it's called 'dark twisted fantasy' i will outright refuse to buy it

i've sort of warmed to "power" now that i'm hearing it on the radio more -- the rapping is still pretty abominable but i think it's actually fairly epic

Dark Twisted Fantasy sounds like it could be a romance novel with vampires in it.

it sounds only like something that only kanye would think is profound

xp

What a terrible title. And I think 808s and Heatbreak is kinda a great title.

Heartbreak*

I bought the "Power" MP3 today and you can really d-_-b out to all the sounds that are happening. Dude is really on some Reznor flyentology shit these days, esp with that Ross track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZF6yFReNaE

also everyone I know who heard the 5 or 6 tracks he's showing around to journalists was saying they are A++++ and totally frantic/crazy/wild

i like the "power" beat a lot, but i think "live fast, die young" is kind of a mess of a production

his rapping is way better on LFDY tho

i'm willing to give kanye tons of preliminary leeway when it comes to his solo stuff, but i'm entirely skeptical of his ability to rap right now in a way that isn't incredibly annoying

i'm really most interested in what he's doing sonically on this album

i think it's the best thing on the Ross album and easily one of my fave songs of the year. But then again I like Ministry and El-P and JG Thirwell and whatev

Yeah, I mean if the new album is 15 tracks of that he can moon june spoon for all I care

i had no interest in watching those a capella facebook hq videos

"dark twisted blonde dykes" vs "dark twisted klondikes"

seriously though, i'm unrealistically psyched for this album too

i really like this new one!

it's nice that it's not OVERBEARINGLY EPIC as "power" or "run this town" but is able to be a bit lighter w/o being totally obnoxious like, idk, "poke her face" or w/e that song is called

Kanye working with boring-ass Lex Luger within a couple months of him starting to have hits is the quickest he's co-opted a southern cat's buzz yet.

http://i34.tinypic.com/b3ws9c.jpg

not the same guy, i don't think.

Kanye working with boring-ass Lex Luger within a couple months of him starting to have hits is the quickest he's co-opted a southern cat's buzz yet.

― dark twisted fanta girl (some dude), Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:57 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i didn't really even pick up any of lex's style anyway

also luger tracks are bangers, u r mad

all his new shit is like two minutes too long

http://www.moviesonline.ca/movie-gallery/albums/userpics//TheDarkFrenchPoster.jpeg
http://www.impawards.com/2004/posters/twisted.jpg
http://kawaiikakkoiisugoi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/final-fantasy-movie.jpg

xp I thought you had written - and was extremely excited about -

all his new shit is like two minutes long

yeah, i would love that

lol I just remembered "late orchestration" existed. did anyone actually listen to that or

i didn't really even pick up any of lex's style anyway

the drums...

anyway this song is kind of on the wack side tbh, "power" and the "monster" and "all the lights" clips >>>>>>>>

did he just invent the production posse cut

this will reach it's logical conclusion, since it is kanye...I think we could see 4 producers on

the next one

haha definitely

i really dig this!

i hate when ppl all start talking abt something on a thread but no one says what they are talking about

we're talking about producer kanye west

right, but no one has said what song you are all talking about

come on son

Clearly Tape Store is talking about "Pinocchio Story," come on son.

no need to bring tuomas into this, guys

Rev, they are talking about the latest track released from this album, See Me Now (Feat. Beyonce & Charlie Wilson)

It is listenable on Kanye's blog: http://www.kanyeuniversecity.com/blog/2010/08/see-me-now-feat-beyonce-charlie-wilson/

The song is alright. It's more album material than singles material. But anyway, I still don't see the need of two singers though. Either one would've been fine, plus really three producers??? However, I'm just not getting excited for this album even though it has all the ingredients for me to get excited like having Madlib, Pete Rock and DJ Premier producing. A guest verse from Nicki Minaj (yes I know, but I like her). But something about this seems so meh. I kinda feel like he should've hung it up as a rapper after 808's and Heartbreaks and just be a producers. However, his new productions though easy on the ears have lost my interests. Hopefully, this album will change my mind.

i dont like this but i cant imagine liking anything he releases

i don't mind this but it's way too long and is kind of a more boring retread of "gone" (which haha is also 6 minutes long but never seemed too long)

kanye's pretty terrible at high culture references :/

i still lol every time i see DARK TWISTED FANTASY btw, i don't think i've yet processed that that's actually gonna be the actual title

was pretty haps to enjoy this on a lazy big boi tip at first (even laughed at chocolatey socrates, sorry) but once he said "i know you thinkin this that yeezy we all love” the jig was rather up. not usual for ye's needyness to draw for outright nostalgia like this - seems he really has been cowed somewhat after recent events.

didn't i start listening to this song about 28 minutes ago? END ALREADY

I can't help but find the name to this hilariously bad like the rest of y'all.

did he just invent the production posse cut

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:16 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

his stuff has ALWAYS had co-producers, and starting on the last couple albums often more than one -- "Good Life" was Kanye/Toomp/Mike Dean/Timbaland, "Coldest Winter" was Kanye/Jeff Bhasker/No I.D., etc.

thank you Prof. Some Dude. i'm talking about the production lineup being part of his "I'M DOING SOMETHING PAY ATTENTION" talking points

I do remember him being like, "and then Timbaland added his drums" I guess that was "Good Life"

this song sucks by the way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nl2Wn1pjrs

omg the louvre line seems ridiculous even for kanye

For some reason hearing Beyoncé use the n word was kind of shocking to me

because shes a white lady?

"See Me Now" might grow on me, but my first reaction is "oh my God wtf is this bullshit"

couldn't make it past the first 5 seconds. a huge mis-step backwards.

it's the same old shit he's been doing his entire career as a solo artist, but then so was "Power"

exactly. how can he release prog-rap like 808's, then retreat back to these outdated sonics? he really let that whole T.Swift thing fuck with his head.

That beat is basically a wimpier version of "The Good Life"

as instrumentals i don't think 808s was all THAT forward-thinking or unique, although if you take it out of the discussion his other albums and probably the new one are pretty damn homogenous

i didn't really even pick up any of lex's style anyway

also luger tracks are bangers, u r mad

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they're total generic ATL style bangers, though, like if you told me any of those beats was by Shawty Redd or Drumma Boy i'd say it's not their best work and they need to go back to the drawing board, so a new cat blowing up off those tracks is just sad

anyway Kanye running to the radio with a BIG STAR and a HOT PRODUCER on a record he just made LAST NIGHT when the street single's been out for months kinda feels like he didn't know what to do for a pop single and is kinda grasping at straws

wait, 808s was pretty damn normal sonically speaking

this bon iver shit is amazing

http://pitchfork.com/news/39752-justin-vernon-talks-kanye-collaboration-gayngs/

not that i need to hear bon iver on kanye records, or that kanye likes bon iver, but it sounds like bon iver had the dopest time ever

my my my

hey guys, what's up?

not that i need to hear bon iver on kanye records

http://i35.tinypic.com/juvkoi.png

hahahha

loooooool

omg

kanye is such a troll

Remember that he was pro-soulja boy

kanye is a performance artist and none of us are in on the joke

Yes exactly

Kanye is basically a buzz whore, pretty much anyone who's popular at any given time is usually going to get an enthusiastic Kanye co-sign.

okay that is certainly true, but it in no way diminishes the potential awesomeness of a kayne -- raekwon -- justin bieber collaboration.

actually hoping that bieber joins the wu-tang clan.

WU TANG & KILLER BIEB
WE ON THE SWARM

baby baby baby oooohhhh

biebers is the only twitter account hes following now

ahaha

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b102/alexa4573/kanyewestentourage1.jpg

learnin alot abt how psyched kanye is abt the new album and suits via tweets recently

realized i prob just summarized this thread yes

itt kanye looking sad while holding expensive luggage

i know weve discussed that photo before at length but god they all look terrible

what would you have told them to wear

other things, son

other things

dude directly to kanye's left is lookin sharpish

yeah otm

you just know half those guys are kind of uncomfortable and would be totally fine with Kanye having everyone still wear polos

http://usershare.net/perajok/gpmdbc2i8g4d

The G.O.O.D. Ass mixtape

i gotta admit i don't rabidly hate "see me now"

it sounds like an outtake from late registration that should have stayed on the cutting room floor and charlie wilson shouldn't exist and i really don't get this whole chipmunk voice thing he's doing but

xxp taz arnold be dressing weird all the time tbh

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/08/a_justin_bieber-kanye_west-rae.html

lord

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxfpo3sLsvE

i gotta admit i don't rabidly hate "see me now"

it sounds like an outtake from late registration that should have stayed on the cutting room floor and charlie wilson shouldn't exist and i really don't get this whole chipmunk voice thing he's doing but

― FRIDGED WAG MANPAIN syndrome (zorn_bond.mp3), Tuesday, August 17, 2010 11:50 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not really into the song but did you seriously just diss charlie wilson

(!)

After one listen, "Monster" is.... interesting. Not quite sure what I think.

its the first beat ive actually liked off this record

jay-z is gettin a bit ridiculous tho. i guess his gross extravagence is interesting in a car-crash headlining-in-vegas way that 'dear summer'-on lacked

i like the sung coda too

the beat is def good

The Justin Vernon contribution is totally not as awkward as I expected it would be.

this kanye verse is pretty great tho, right?!? least corny thing in ages imo

is this one of the bon iver collabs btw

this is great, the minaj verse is AWESOME!

Awful, and I consider myself a card-carrying Kanye apologist.

the minaj verse is AWESOME!

I've been on the fence re: Ms. Minaj, but I'm buying stock now. DAMN.

for minaj neophytes, this is a good place to start -- pretty comprehensive compendium of her verses

hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjm5LkeTrGU

lol oh lord

http://tumblinerb.com/post/1023820195/first-things-first-ill-eat-your-brains-i-take

just clicked on eazy's youtube link and my mind was SO BLOWD

"Monster" is ridiculous. Ridiculous.

I think Jay demolishes this.

what

i wish ross' verse was longer

Cosignimg that Monster is ridiculous but would say that it's in Kate part due to Nicki. My favorite thing she's dine since Sweet Dreams probably.

Maybe it's just 2:36am and drunk talking. But I'm loving Hov's verse after one listen. Ask me again tomorrow fora sober analysis.

noted

I think his flow is good tho.

"have you ever had sex with a pharaoh/ i put the pussy in a sarcophagus"

i'm not sure kanye knows what a sarcophagus is

Less old-man-y=y.

like, obv i think the minaj verse is flat out hilarious... but at least it's... something -- all the other rapping here is not worth shit imo

beat knocks tho

i wanna know who minaj suggest her and kanye should menage with

j0rdan sargent, iirc

the best thing i can say about minaj is that she's like if busta rhymes went off the deep end during the big hat era

if i had to kick one person out of that menage it would be kanye

if there's a video for this song minaj miming this verse might actually kill me

She def deserves to wrap the song up.

it is her song

i wish i woudl've realized earlier that it would've been hilarious to jump in the nah right comments section with "bon iver murdered this shit"

The beat on this is ok but I'm up to the Jay verse and I don't know if I care enough to go another 3 minutes +. I mean fucking hell Kanye, EDIT THE SHIT OFF YR RECORDS ALREADY, PREF. INCL. YRSELF

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

# black brokaw Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

How is Nikki the only person on the song that likes girls

loooooooooool

hmm, is the rest of nikki this exciting? I think I kinda wrote her off a year or so back but her verse is dope.

don't even remember rick ross being on the song but it was nearly 7 minutes long so he must have turned up at one point right?

lol he's at the beginning

btw i hope everyone is ready for good as job being a 16 song 96 min album

# ThatMan Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 9:55 pm

Rick Ross barely took a breathe before his verse was over and that’s a tough thing to do considering his weight.

Damn.

excuse me, i mean DARK TWISTED FANTASY

this is going to be worse than blueprint 3 isn't it ;_; rip guy who got rhymefest to ghostwrite for him

# Mook Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 10:58 pm

Jay calling Beans a “Vampire” >>>>>>>

# ThatMan Says:
August 27th, 2010 at 10:59 pm

A Beans cameo in the Twilight movies >>>>

apparently this whole jay verse is a beanie diss btw

nikki killed this obv

noz: you were right
noz: i lose the nicki argument
Sent at 12:55 AM on Saturday

/braggin

god this song is so bad (apart from nicki who is just amazing)

kanye west: the indie rock dj khaled

this song is such a mess + should have been structured around nicki and her "I'M A MOTHERFUCKING MONSTER"

the Nicki verse isn't really any more over the top than "Bottoms Up" or any of her really recent guest verses, is it?

hahaha it's hilarious how much nicki outshines the others. kanye's verse isn't awful but pretty grating. jay's verse is an abomination imo, starts so clumsily with that tedious list of monsters like he's cramming for an exam, and improves only barely towards the end.

i don't really get why this verse is making people come round to nicki, it's a great verse (LOVE hearing her trini accent) but is it really that different from/superior to what she's been doing generally? my favourite bit is when her voice gets cut up on the "pink wig, thick ass give 'em whiplash" line. also "first things first, i'll eat your brains/then imma start rockin gold teeth and fangs" <3

i've never hated on nicki and i wouldn't say it's necessarily superior it's just such a great moment for her

yeah, agree, def feels like an ~event~ in her career in the way that her verses on random cassie/lloyd/mya tracks weren't, even though they were all amazing spots

i wanna know who minaj suggest her and kanye should menage with

amb, as in amber rose

what zeitgeist-grabbing guests/producers/samples do you think will be on this one? my predictions are Lady Gaga, Kings of Leon, Nicki Minaj, and Hall & Oates.

― every night i tell myself i am the custos, i am the wind. (some dude), Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:25 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i'm not giving up hope on dude from Kings of Leon singing a hook just yet

A critic weighs in on a separate matter.

If you a stripper and you have a low self esteem Its probably because your fat and ugly. I suggest you kill yourself
13 minutes ago via ÜberTwitter

ppl in nah right comment section were calling this a "renegade" moment which would be true if kanye/jay could still rap

did someone hack his account or just actually hand him the phone? xp

Man when I figure out how to use the spell Check on this motherfucker you niggas in trouble
6:01 AM Aug 27th via ÜberTwitter

why the hell am i not following 50 cent on twitter loooool

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

I suggest you kill yourself

okay so the internet has apparently talked about this and it's #2 'they handed him phone'

that line makes 50 cent seem like such a generic internet asshole xp

like it almost makes me think he reads message boards or something

the 1st tweet about kanye made me lol

holy hell 50 Cent tweets a lot

its a rapper requirement

is that antony hegarty on that shit

this would be better as a bon iver song

rick ross

so was that short video for "Power" the full thing or was it just a trailer?

I also just noitced that b. Søderb3rg cited ME in a post on the supposed subversive nature of it under "further reading/viewing" links on his blog

Fucking Blogging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD5XirRkGaw

guessing this is the RZA track... beat is gorgeous, overpowers kanye tho he's kind of zzzz on this

this sounds pretty good

needs to be mastered tho

that joint is bink

yeah that doesnt sound like rza. dope beat, kinda wasted :(

damn nicki went HARD

http://www.splicetoday.com/music/an-archaeology-of-power-kanye-jay-z-and-foucault

more rap writing that evokes Foucault:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2003-01-07/news/foucault-s-turntable/

i always remember that stuff because i went to a swamp-trash Florida college that never taught me who Foucault was, tbh

hahaha

i only know about foucault because a kick-ass part-time prof happened to teach at my eastern-shore-of-md school while i was there

the other philosophy staff wouldn't have touched him with a ten foot pole

so i have a bunch of mf texts from classes and others i bought or was given after graduation, most of which i haven't had time to read

man if it wasn't a new rza beat i'd swear that devil in a new dress beat was a leftover from the blueprint

anyway, "kanye is working on his PhD in philosophy," discuss

Shouldn't he get a bach and a masters first?

isn't it a bink beat?

late as fuck obv but "monster" is dope no idea why ppl are hating on jay or kanye's verses both of which kinda remind me why i liked those guys in the first place

I need to hear "Monster" but I can't be bothered, I'll probably wait until the CD comes out then I'll pay $10.99 for it on Amazon and then realize it doesn't even have the track "Monster" on it once Kanye finalizes the track listing and I'll be fucked out of $10.99 and go to YouTube about 4 months after everyone else does.

"remind me why i liked those guys in the first place" is totally wrong. it's more like it provides much more viable paths they could have gone down.

man if it wasn't a new rza beat i'd swear that devil in a new dress beat was a leftover from the blueprint

― You know, Caps... Jimmy Hats, Gloves, McRibs, Slee (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Suggest Ban Permalink
Tuesday, September 7, 2010 11:06 AM Bookmark

sounds more dropout-era

and i guess it's not rza actually?

also:

is kanye really going to end up calling his album "dark twisted fantasy"?

u_u

I love how jay-z raps about not getting enough love

"remind me why i liked those guys in the first place" is totally wrong. it's more like it provides much more viable paths they could have gone down.

― dayo reckoning (The Reverend), Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:10 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

listing monsters & dreaming of loooove?

tom b's pfork review was otm imo

lol define "viable"

a jay-z concept album where he raps as a different type of monster on every track would be awes obv

especially "ghooooooul"

someone plz make that happen

I have a feeling jay-z would do a great nosferatu

we on that norman mailer shit

i think listing monsters is acceptable on a song called "monster"

i never said its not 'acceptable' its just hokey

everybody wanna know what my achilles heel is

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEE

^^ never fails to bring the lols

otm

everybody wanna know what my achilles heel is

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEE

^^ never fails to bring the lols

― subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

Yeah that's a terrible moment. Worse than listing the monsters, which I less of a problem with.

Remember when Jay had great moments like in "I Just Wanna Love You" where he sang all off-key I WISH I NEVER MET YOU AT ALL. This is like that but shit. FAIL.

everybody wanna know what my achilles heel is

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVEEEEE

Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

does rick ross really say 'kanye west samples / here's one for you to sample" ????

"Number None"

oh man, i need to dig my doom patrols out again

so far "devil in a new dress" is prolly my fave circa2010 kanye

"Runaway" is just the best.

^^^

it sounded much better live to me, studio version is a bit flat

great song tho

wish it was autotuned

Also wish it was two minutes shorter like everything else he did this year, but hey. Pusha T kind of sucks on this too, but I still love this track

yeah it was a bit of a rush for pusha to come out unexpectedly for the performance but he's a bit out of place & tedious on the recorded version

haha i was literally just listening to runaway and thinking id been to harsh on it at first

wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than good friday

i think i hate good friday more than monster

also, like Kanye really nails the sadsack/asshole dichotomy in this one and Pusha just comes off as unrepentant pussyhound. I hate to say it, but like maybe Ye should have called in some Rhymesayers dudes to emo this up a little better hahaha

Monster and Good Friday aren't actually confired to be on the record tbqpf

yeah -- good friday had a dope beat but c'mon it has kid cudi & big sean on it

i guess there hasn't even been a tracklist yet right?

theres no kanye i hate more than sentimental nostalgic inspirational over piano beats kanye

hold on do you hate "gone"?? cuz that's sentimental nostalgic inspirational over piano beats kanye and that song is the fucking best ever

haha as soon as i said that i started listening back and i realized i like "gone" and that talib track and even "family business"

i hate "hey mama" but there arent any pianos

"get by" is the talib track i mean

i pretty much love any kanye that isn't pinnochio story

but i dunno good friday just reminds me of hey mama, pointless sentimental shit, just kitsch

across four albums, there are like 5 or 6 songs that i actively don't like

excluding skits and such

i really like the studio version of this

feelin emo ye

i like this song a lot, but I'm just dreading the chorus becoming inescapable

max hates maudlin, but i fucking can't stand "Runaway"'s crass stupid "douchebag" blah-blah-blah. (shudder)

I could have sworn I asked this before but, in "Power" when Kanye says, "You n**** got jooooookes" is that a reference to something? Like is it a Raaaandy line?

i think he's just mocking snl

"lord lord lord" is p good

even tho not all of the GOOD friday joints have been that great i think this has been a pretty cool idea -- not dropping music once a week of course, but dropping pretty thematically similar posse cuts -- it's kinda cool to see who's gonna show up on the next one -- production has been nice on some of them too

would love an instrumental of "devil in a new dress" -- bink killed it

oh whats the beat for lord lord lord ... its super obv

i mean i know its a sample but theres a real obv rap song that uses it

ohhhh lord lord lord 2pac big please talk to this sucker cause they killing hip hop they taking the pain and struggle of life of hip hop the only thing we coulda express our minds and pain. and these suckers took it and made it look like garbage thats why we get judge so much cause these shit dont be making sence

? thats not what im saying, its cool that he used it i just cant remember what track it is

it's nas - find ya wealth xp

brian bennett's solstice is the sampl

http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008/12/brian-bennett-solstice-samples.html

you can't sat douchebag, asshole or jerkoff on the radio it seems

og is dope xp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXFz7vqbk1o

? thats not what im saying, its cool that he used it i just cant remember what track it is

― you cant see me markers (deej), Saturday, September 18, 2010 2:36 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was just making a joke b/w the name of the new kanye west song and the most famous autogoon meme, jeez

you can't sat douchebag, asshole or jerkoff on the radio it seems

― kenanpolaris (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, September 18, 2010 3:43 PM

so they're going to ruin the song

I heard it today waiting for an italian ice.

"—shbags," "—soooles," "—koffs"

haaaa

http://www.thirteen.org/riffcity/kanye-west-online-eclipsed-kanye-west/

interesting:

As for my other foot dropping? It bums me out that even the most significant mountain-moving type pop artists like Kanye West have to be “good at Twitter” in order to put a dent in the zeitgeist. That his music — very little music anymore, not even the best stuff — can’t do the kind of heavy lifting that movies and video games and television can without this extra-song-and-dance. It bums me out that Kanye West, who is Kanye West, has 1.2 million Twitter followers, while Ashton Kutcher, who is Ashton Kutcher, has 5.9. It bums me out that music is so devalued at this point that Kanye West — one of the greats — is giving away his entire album a track at a time here because albums are basically just “promotional materials” for “artist brands.” It bums me out because I like albums, not artists — so also it bums me out that Kanye West, who knows how good these songs are (he tells us so), week after week raises the expectations of what “free new music” sounds like, glossing over the fact that it took a lot of major label money and quality studios for Kanye to develop this sound. Rome is burning, so… It bums me out that he’s contributing to the speed with which we are willingly consuming “free new music,” which is to say all new music, which rarely gets more than a second or third listen because there’s always some new Great Kanye West track to get to. It bums me out that Kanye West, in order to be “Kanye West,” is devaluing Kanye West’s Music.

But even still, the idea of “keeping a pulse” on the internet is a real thing both rappers and bloggers worry about. Slowly the work itself becomes secondary, less ambitious; slowly people become “really proud of their tweets.” Is it really too risky at this point to just check out for a year? It might be. You can’t die, otherwise we will do nothing in memory of you.

tl;dr

With thirteen.org, I thought that was Kanye on Charlie Rose talking about himself, because if it was it would sound exactly like Garth Brooks did when he talked about Garth Brooks on Charlie Rose.

kanye is the garth brooks of the 00s

man i can't wait for his chris gaines phase

hi im kevin shields, if kanye's here, pm me, i wanna collaberate with you

cheers dude

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/167264534.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1285365899&Signature=PXF2w7pIIU3w61vMBQZlnLFV7eY%3D

holy wow

enough jay-z

what are we holy wow-ing at?

http://twitpic.com/2rl252

could do without jay-z yes, but I've been waiting for this since that snippet leaked like a year ago

this should be fun

wonder what he's done with the beat

i almost hope it's worthy of I AM STILL SO FUCKING APPALLED: Rolling Worst Songs of 2010

is there no studio version of "runaway"?

yeah there is

http://limelinx.com/files/870f00155daee2bd5789c3e1de3ba2cc

jay kind of went in on this

only the 2nd best mc hammer reference this year

pusha on kanye joints is agl

only the 2nd best mc hammer reference this year

after Ross', one hopes.

obv

this is really good yes

i went from the favorite to the most hated
but would you rather be underpaid or overrated?

^^dope jay

show me where the boats is / ferrari testerosas / and hammer went broke so you know i'm all focused / i lost 30 mill so i spent another 30 / cuz unlike hammer, 30 million can't hurt me

i'm still moving birds like i'm in bed with mother goose

^^best line about coke from pusha t in forever

who the fuck is cyhi da prince

there's a lot of grocery bag on "So Appalled"

devil in a new dress is my fav kanye track in years

is there a more kanye rhyme than lyor cohen & dior homme

11/22

also

http://nahright.com/news/2010/09/29/kanye-west-lost-in-the-world/

more bon iver?

didn't he say they did like 5 tracks together?

http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2010/09/kanye_west_flip.php#more

kanye wasn't procrastinating out there in hawaii, was he? no sir!

devil in a new dress is my fav kanye track in years

― johnny crunch, Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:02 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

is there a more kanye rhyme than lyor cohen & dior homme

― shartopus (J0rdan S.), Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:10 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

COSIGN BOTH

"devil in a new dress" is good but it's really disappointing to see kanye retracing his own footsteps like that. i'd pretty much rather see him do something that was bad but unquestionably new than retreating into familiarity. like, as much as i don't really like 808s, i'm glad he wasn't contenting himself to do the same thing twice.

i don't agree that "devil in a new dress" is a retread for him -- even tho both ye & bink are obv big soul sample dudes, i think they use samples in totally different ways, generally speaking -- "devil in a new dress" (and shit that bink as done for freeway i.e.) is way denser & more florid than the way ye usually treats soul samples i think -- much heavier on the vocal sample & the maudlin qualities of the vocal sample

i like this more than kanye's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRa_JDb2Kzk

I'd rank the good friday leaks:

so appalled
monster
lord lord lord
devil in new dress
power remix
good fridays

it's too bad that the power remix has such shit verses cuz the 'the power' sample was a great idea & was super fun to hear

haha, as if florid and maudlin aren't adjectives that could describe kanye to a t. sure, it leans more heavily on a simple loop than a kanye production probably would, but it is pretty much 95% like a pre-dropout kanye beat. shit wouldn't have sounded remotely out of place on like, the blueprint 2. xps

or hell, philadelphia freeway, since you bring him up

"devil in a new dress" is good but it's really disappointing to see kanye retracing his own footsteps like that. i'd pretty much rather see him do something that was bad but unquestionably new than retreating into familiarity. like, as much as i don't really like 808s, i'm glad he wasn't contenting himself to do the same thing twice.

― The Reverend, Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:42 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i agree with this, except for the part about "devil" being good, imo that's probably the worst of these new songs

bw's list is pretty much otm

i'd switch the first two and last two

there are plenty of artists i've cared about and actively followed for years and years but man i really just can't give a damn about Kanye anymore, haven't even heard half those songs. i feel like he's this new Bob Dylan-level critical sacred cow and this album will be hailed as a classic even if down the road people realize oh it's whatever.

i can see that

people going apeshit over "lost in the world" and I'm kind of like "eh...."

i'm more interested in the aftermath of this album, 808s is kind of responsible for Kid Cudi/Drake/et al.

Kanye has Jay working with Madlib & Pete Rock, Nas w/ RZA, etc. so maybe he can kickstart the whole 90s/boom-bap revivalism w/ modern touch that's bound to happen

there are plenty of artists i've cared about and actively followed for years and years but man i really just can't give a damn about Kanye anymore, haven't even heard half those songs. i feel like he's this new Bob Dylan-level critical sacred cow and this album will be hailed as a classic even if down the road people realize oh it's whatever.

― algernod shiplies (some dude), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 21:24 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^^^^^

yeah that post is otm

i feel like since 808s was generally critically well liked (outside of hardhead rap circles), people feel like ye is immune to putting out a bad album, even tho he hasn't been rapping well in like 2 years

i dunno, i feel like most of his verses on these joints are fine. he's always had the (more than occasional clunker) and as far as his recent guest verses go, his guest verses have always sucked.

maybe he can kickstart the whole 90s/boom-bap revivalism w/ modern touch that's bound to happen

― Pitchfork.com, a music recommendation Web site (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, Suggest Ban Permalink

seemed apparent was the whole musical tack he was taking here from the time that unfinished version of "so appalled" leaked?

i think he's gone from having a lame pun here & there having verses full of lame puns

really, the only song (of his own) he's put out this year that I've actively disliked is "power" (and its remix)

oh and that beyonce joint that i forgot existed until right this very. bleh.

he's good enough as an 'artist' to overcome his current failings as a rapper to the point where none of these songs are 'bad' but i think only one of them is actually 'great'

like i can't imagine that this album is gonna be more than 3.5 out of 5/7 out of 10

man, fuck a dude making a 7/10 album

huh

joshing

ugh, wtf. i hate that word.

http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=92797

lolwtf

i think he's gone from having a lame pun here & there having verses full of lame puns

Ahh... welcome to the grocery bag era.

yeah, graduation really is the big bang of the grocery bag era, i'm sad to say

To read the rest of Kanye West’s self-penned cover story and his 40-page package, be sure to pick up the October 2010 issue of XXL, which is on nationwide newsstands now!

yeah... no

smh

OH NOES KANYE CANCELLED GOOD FRIDAYS OH NOES

http://cdn.2dopeboyz.com/m.php/2010/09/20100929-KANYE2.jpg

http://cdn.2dopeboyz.com/m.php/2010/09/20100929-KANYE1.jpg
( http://usershare.net/YoungFire/mx3vl4d6ykqo )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnAbszcy3bs

boom bap 'revival' is here

saw yela & wiz tonite & the dj was all YALL FEELIN MAC MILLER?? ***subdued applause***

who is organizing 'the jets'??

When wasn't boom bap revival here?

good fridays has genuinely been making my week more enjoyable, so appalled the first thing on my headphones every time i leave the house, so that kinda sucks.

When wasn't boom bap revival here?

― altered boners (rennavate), Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:38 AM (4 hours ago)

I meant in the mainstream, obviously there have always been revivalists/people stuck in "golden age" but obv kanye is a trendsetter in that whatever he does tends to set the stage for the next year or so so if/when Kanye is successful in this whole "bringing it back" sound then other notable people will follow suit maybe

so far most of this new stuff has the same kinda drums as Kanye's stuff 5-10 years ago and that stuff was not boom bap

this is a classic

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9ksfpYXng1qzfh4ho1_500.jpg

XD

i had to google 50 tyson and was not disappointed

when is Weird Forest putting out his record?

once sage francis bites him

I would love to hear that song.

haha 50 tyson!

also he's from my hometown!

is it that hard to put a still from a Fellini movie in the background of that fake cover

lazy meme-mongering right there

I liked those SNL performances

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81PAlsbXhY&feature=player_embedded

can we never play drogba again? :(

classy finish but ffs

ha rong thread

SNL performance of "Power" was top fucking notch excellent.

can't believe people are into that song. some dude's post more or less represents how I feel about this project too

Kanye's current campaign feels like if HIStory didn't tack a greatest hits disc onto the new weirdass paranoid emotional problems one but was still promoted the same way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c93o05SrWzE

okay this second verse during the "power" performance isn't on the remix either -- it's totally new & seriously way better

is that walter white introducing pusha t? cute

lol

holy s--t i didn't realize runaway was (a) kanye west and (b) on a not-yet-released album. i heard it a few days ago, on how-to-dress-well's mixtape on the dis magazine website, and assumed it was cee-lo green (that opening still sounds like cee-lo's voice to me).

Really? I don't think it sounds anything like Mr. Green.

??

it seems really weird to me that he's pushing "runaway" rather than "monster" which people seem to actually like and i've heard bumping out of cars and stuff. seems like the logic is "heartless" is his biggest hit in the past couple years, so put out a song like that? idgi.

um because "Runaway" is a melodic pop rap song and "Monster" is a 6 min posse cut where nobody's favorite verse is Kanye's?

cheaper to get pusha t on stage than nicki, rick, jay-z and bon iver xpost!

also i don't think "monster" is even on the album

AUSTIN... POWERS

yeah can someone explain that to me

is he making a sxsw reference or something

holy hell I am listening to the lyrics to "Runaway" for the first time

She find pictures in my email
I sent this girl a picture of my dick
I don't know what it is with females
But I'm not too good with that shit

o_O well all right then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_the_Throne

sometime guys send pictures of their dick over email and people find them iirc

love how much the song sounds like natalie imbruglia's "torn," maybe it's an answer track

Whiney G. Weingarten, speaking from experience.

xp

I kind of feel like Kanye should stop making music for a while and just do video treatments for people, because the all-out megalomania in "Power" is one of the most visually-arresting things I've seen in a while.

kanye's got your black swan RIGHT HERE

um because "Runaway" is a melodic pop rap song and "Monster" is a 6 min posse cut where nobody's favorite verse is Kanye's?

― algernod shiplies (some dude), Monday, October 4, 2010 1:51 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it isn't even that catchy tho! and you could easy make a 4-minute radio edit of monster by cutting out the bon iver parts.

cheaper to get pusha t on stage than nicki, rick, jay-z and bon iver xpost!

― da croupier, Monday, October 4, 2010 1:52 PM Bookmark

yeah, true.

looking at the confirmed songs for dtf, why are none of the good songs he's put out lately on it? yikes.

I kind of feel like Kanye should stop making music for a while and just do video treatments for people, because the all-out megalomania in "Power" is one of the most visually-arresting things I've seen in a while.

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best i ever had.

"ok so brandon flowers in your new video you walk into a spanish bordello and all the hoes dance around you and shit"

actually kanye would have him as the bordello owner

Whiney G. Weingarten, speaking from experience.

xp

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or maybe just READ YR BLOGS

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um dude nsfw

that was not necessary

really now

AYO TECHNOLOGY

to recap:

ilxor insinuating me a creep who forwards dick pics = necessary
me posting well-tread blog image = unnecessary

love you, moderators

more like:

ilxor says something stupid that everyone ignores because no one pays any attention to him

you follow up with an actual dick move

enjoy your impending suggest ban

or

"ilxor insinuating me a creep who forwards dick pics = necessary
me forwarding dick pic = unnecessary"

haha

"How dare he say that, I must PROVE HIM RIGHT"

it isn't even that catchy tho!

just to offer a different view, this wasn't true for me. to me, runaway isn't just catchy, it's totally arresting, musically and lyrically (that's been my feeling the first time i heard it -- on that how-to-dress-well mixtape -- and even now that i've played it over-and-over).

different strokes/different folks.

runaway is arresting, i just wish all this added up to more than "ballerinas on my dick cuz i wear the crown wreath"

geez, "to me," "to me," "to me," "to me," "to me." i need an ilx-editor. an ilxidor.

runaway is arresting, i just wish all this added up to more than "ballerinas on my dick cuz i wear the crown wreath"

that's what you think he means? i get the impression it's "i'm awesome and get all the women/i'm a creep and hate myself," which is a lot of what i think is interesting about kayne west.

I never meant to cause you any sorrow
I never meant to cause you any pain
only wanted one time to see you laughing
only want to see you laughing at my photo of my dick

PURPLE DICK....PURPLE DICK

*thud thud*

I didn't mean to suggest that Kanye isn't torn up about the gift and the curse of the ballerinas on his dick because he wears the crown wreath

lol. well okay, but also: "idk what it is with females, but i'm not too good with that shit," self-identifying next to "d-bags, assholes, scumbags, jerkoffs," and warning the girl to "run away as fast as you can."

that's a fun line to write -- or say.

yeah no I wanna give him credit for being relatively "I'm the jerk" after 808s but the earnest grandeur of the music and the performances makes it kinda hard to take seriously

contrasted with "ohhh my dick photo" shit, I mean

If Prince had dedicated Purple Rain to 80 women I would have laughed at that too

the earnest grandeur of the music and the performances makes it kinda hard to take seriously

unfortunately this is precisely what lots of fans like about 808.

it's the best thing about it, really! i mean the guy knows how to get your attention, I just find his reasons for timpani a little lacking