so i got hardmanned at a Girls show tonight ()
so anyway this dude & girl standing in front of me were talking during the songs, like shouting into each others ears -- real stupid conversation shit -- a foot from my face, and it was kind of throwing off my whole vibe. so after like four songs i said "if you guys are gonna talk during every song, do you think you could go back to the bar" (with a little snark) and he stared me down all hardman style like he was mike tyson. anyway, i don't go to shows ALL that much, especially ones that are like <200 people, and i'm not sure if i was being a dick for asking them to stfu or if it's kind of people's way of expressing that their not digging the band and i should just stfu and move.
i ended up moving because lol @ the idea of me fighting someone, but who was in the wrong?
*all rise for judge judy*
― jacka in the box (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
It's because you were at a Girls show.
― Kat Bee, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
y'all can rate how bitchmade i am on a scale of 1-10 if you'd like, but i just want to know if i'm right or wrong
yeah see like i get the whole "lol this band sucks anyway" but like, why even go to the show?
― jacka in the box (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
i wouldnt expect anything to come from shushing people like that at a bar w/o intimidation so in that sense its 'wrong'. shouting over them so much they have to ask YOU to shutup or move: worthy of the prince
― smooth move, uncle kracker (tremendoid), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 06:49 (3 years ago) Permalink
etiquette-wise, I agree that the behavior described is annoying & stupid. Personally, unless the show had designated seating, or I had camped out stage-side from the beginning of the gig to get a prime viewing spot, I would likely just shuffle my placement in the crowd a bit & let someone else deal with them.
That said, I do love the fact that manned up & got stared down at a Girls show.
― Screeching Weerasethakul (Pillbox), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
sarge ilu for graemlin
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
they was wrong and a reasonable motherfucker would have moved
they was dicks
word-- really this thread was just so i could get on some andy rooney soapbox
― jacka in the box (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:09 (3 years ago) Permalink
since i'm a short dude i kind of get attached to any position where i have a good sightline -- i was kind of on some costanza shit tbh but there's never really the threat of physical harm on seinfeld
― jacka in the box (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
GET ON MY LEVEL
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
yo is it true dickhead got sonned by a j0rdan after a etiquette beef??????
― Screeching Weerasethakul (Pillbox), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
― jacka in the box (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 07:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
i don't think you were being a dick, but people shouting into each other's ears like that during songs at a regular club show is as common as people lifting up their cell phones to take pictures. It can be annoying, but it's something that so many people do, it might come across to the people you called out, if they go to shows more often, that you're being oversensitive and/or don't get out much.
Moving is generally the best course of action, though it sucks if you have a good spot and the place is packed enough so that it's hard to find another good spot.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 09:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
j0rdan i don't want to live in a world where it is okay with talking loudly through a show: its so crazy rude, and shows such selfish disregard for anyone in the room who might want to hear the music, that it bums me out big time when it happens.
i also almost got in a fight, at a magnetic fields show, in such circumstances about a decade ago. this guy and two girls were singing through all the 69 Love Songs material, which was kind of annoying but i felt like a grouch for getting vexed, because hey they're just having a good time. but then they started talking loudly during the songs they didn't know, and my then-gf was getting visibly enraged, so i stood up (we were seated, they were stood behind us) and said, hey, do you mind not talking during the songs? i was real polite abt it, btw.
anyways, the guy, who seemed kind of an upper class ponce if his diction and accent were any clue, got all pouty and said, "why don't you fuck off home and listen to the record there?" which upped my vexation levels a thousandfold, and i said that since i'd bought tickets to see the show, why didn't he fuck off home and have his conversation there?
i sat down at this point, and they pretty much shut up, but between songs i could hear him lisping about how he was going to smack me at the end of the show. i don't think i've been in a real fight since i hit double figures, and thought i could probably 'take him' if it came down to it, but still didn't fancy a scrap. the show ended and i stood up, and the guy and his friends abruptly left w/out saying anything, and an old lady came up and thanked me for shutting them up, but it was a lame scene mostly.
i know, wite guy almost sonned at a mag fields show over a loud-talking beef...
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 09:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
^had a similar experience at one of the 69 love songs shows. seemed like a bunch of people were only there to hear the one about bunny rabbits (which they loudly sang along to) and talked incessantly through the rest
― trembling blue knees (electricsound), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 09:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Talking during songs is inexcusable, as is bellowing tunelessly along (unless it's that kind of gig, y'know Pogues or suchlike). I don't know if this has got any better or worse in my many years of going to see live bands, but it certainly happens more if an artist is on an upward career curve, or is in some flavour-of-the-month phase just because the shows are full of people who aren't fans as such, or who've been dragged along etc. Bottom line though is that it's incredibly rude both to the performer(s) and other people who have paid to be there.
As noted, yr never going to meet with anything approaching a polite response if any attempt is made to shut them up. Disgusting savages, all of them.
Something else that pisses me off is when people who have been blessed with the genetic gift of tallness choose to stand directly in front of me and/or Mrs A even though we've staked a claim in a good spot early on. I'm only 5'10" so when some fucker who is well over 6 foot barges in my view is ruined. As is my mood.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
My enjoyment of a Tindersticks show a couple of years ago was pretty much ruined by one girl who talked loudly throughout the entire show, including the quiet songs. Stuart Staples doesn't normally say much to the audience but on this occasion he was moved at the end to say "it’s been great playing for you… except for that woman down there." But she didn't hear him. She just kept on talking.
― anagram, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 10:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
genetic gift of tallness
I am five foot nothing and while I don't think this gives me an instant right to be at the front or anything (nor do I particularly want to any more, for most gigs I am at) I am amazed every gig at how people over a foot taller than me will arrive, note my presence, and then stand exactly in front of me. Happens even if the room is almost empty, though at least then they can be sidestepped (until the next lot). If they seem into the band that's one thing, but if they then get bored and chat and twitter all evening, fuck those guys
(sometimes I think indie women are shorter and less assertive than average and indie guys are taller and more oblivious than average, and curse the cruel fate that throws 10 of us and 200 of them into every gig together. this and other women-be-shopping observations are all I have to think about when I keenly arrive at a gig at the advertised door time to find that it doesn't start for 1.5 hours and it's too dark to reread the free month-old listings rag, etc)
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
Back to the thread topic, those guys were jerks, don't be intimidated by them maybe going to more shows than you, most regular gig-goers I've known wd agree. Though I've never seen anything good come of a confrontation at the time, but I'd like to think they go home and think "I guess we were a bit annoying" and don't do it again. Past experience suggests not though.
(Once the hippest local band included a guy who was somehow able to get guestlisted for everything and would bellow the same injoke repeatedly at every band who came to town. So glad that guy left town.)
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
you should never be made to feel like you're in the wrong by asking for a little courtesy and consideration.
― m the g, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost: I remember an old acquaintance telling us about the time that she and her friends were shushed at a Tindersticks gig.
"It was SO RUDE! How DARE they tell us what to do? We were at the back, so they could have just moved forwards!"
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 11:54 (3 years ago) Permalink
The worst ones are when the chatter reaches critical mass, and everyone gives up and starts doing it themselves. As someone said upthread, this happens most often when the act is at the "flavour of the month" stage. I've witnessed it at Goldfrapp (around the time of "Ooh La La"), at Rodrigo Y Gabriela, and - perhaps more deservedly, because it was a ditchwater-dull show anyway - at Seasick Steve.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
a guy who was somehow able to get guestlisted for everything and would bellow the same injoke repeatedly at every band who came to town
"FREEBIRD!"?
― Bill A, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
Have confronted people about this more times than I care to remember. A bit of chat is fine - it's a night out, after all; and chatting at the bar is fine - it's the bar. But talking all the way through a show when you're standing mid-crowd is unacceptable. I rarely get threatened, though, by virtue of being very tall and not at all skinny. And because by the time I tip over into telling them to be quiet, my rage is beyond containment. As a tall person, agree with those shorter than me who complain about the behaviour of tall latecomers fighting their way into the middle of the crowd regardless of who's behind me. When accompanied by someone short, I have been known to poor beer down the backs of those who come in very late and stand in front without paying any attention. Which makes me as much of an asshole as them.
― ithappens, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
The situation was best handled at a Kathryn Williams show in a small stand-up venue, circa 2001, where the chatter had reached critical mass by the third song. (The same crowd had already talked right over the support slot from Turin Brakes.) The venue was jam-packed, and KW's self-admitted fear of crowds in enclosed spaces was kicking in. Between songs, a young guy in front of me motioned to KW that he wanted a word, so she asked him up on stage.
"I've got a request. Can everyone who's here to catch up with their mates over a drink please FUCK OFF DOWNSTAIRS so the rest of us can watch the show?"
Sustained applause. Total silence for the rest of the gig.
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
I am v tall and try to be aware of getting in the way of shorter people, but it's often quite difficult to find anywhere to stand that isn't in someone's way. If I'm at somewhere like the Forum or Shepherd's Bush Empire I'll just stand in front of the mixing desk so there's no-one behind me.
Or I find some other tall bastard and stand behind him cos there's usually space there cos no-one else can see. But that can lead to a huge clump of lanky gits which probably just makes it worse.
But if I am there it is because I am watching the show not talking to people so pls don't hate me.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
Lanky gits do tend to clump, 'tis true...
― mike t-diva, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sorry Colonel, I don't really hate the tall people. 99% of you are fine, just the ones who stand in front - I mean exactly in front like they deliberately lined up elbows, this is what makes it really odd how often it happens - of the smallest person for several metres even when there's plenty of other space, and then don't even seem interested.
I (used to) go to a lot of gigs more or less out of curiosity, so if I'm there just to see what's what and someone who likes the band wants to stand in front of me, no problem there. Though I tend to lurk near the back unless I like what I'm hearing or am really excited to see them. Actually there's often a spot at the very back where the shallower angle lets you see one or two band members between the heads, which is more than we shortarses get from most of the crowd.
― canna kirk (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
I go to tons of shows and it drives me nuts when everyone seems to be talking during the bands, but refreshingly I don't seem to see it super often -- maybe it's the shows I go to (either so small that there's not enough of the audience to out-chatter the band, or so big that the band drowns out anyone who is talking). I'd say what Jordan did was avoidable but I kinda applaud him for doing it, I totally fantasize about doing that kind of thing but never do. closest I got was at a movie once when a guy would not stop talking next to me, and I turned to him like I was going to say something important or friendly and just went 'SHUT THE FUCK UP' and amazingly he did for the rest of the movie, which was such a great moment.
― goodness gracious great walls o gina (some dude), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
If you are in an assigned seat and can not move, then yeah, tell them to stfu.
If you can move, then move. always easiest first best choice.
― nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
I turned to him like I was going to say something important or friendly and just went 'SHUT THE FUCK UP'
heh. I did this too, at a seated GYBE gig. the exact same words, the exact same effect.
I genuinely intended to be polite to the endlessly chattering gimps next to me, but all my pent-up rage just fell out of my face.
― m the g, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
The first time Brian Wilson did Pet Sounds in London - the OPENING FUCKING NIGHT, his first involved gig here since before the old queen died and all - there were two fellas a couple of rows bag talking at normal conversational volume throughout. Finally leapt out of my seat and pleaded with them to let the music talk. One of them told me he'd been waiting 40 years for this night and I was not going to ruin it for him by making him be quiet. That he had paid for his ticket and he intended to savour every minute however he chose.WTF do you say to people like that, who know they're ruining it for others but completely don't give any sort of a fuck?
― ithappens, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
killing's too good for 'em...
― preferred method is to beef w/ ned raggett (stevie), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
Typical Londoners. You wouldn't get that anywhere else in the UK.
― anagram, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 13:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
Hard to know how much of an asshole one will be. I loathe bullying, so the staring-down bs just makes me want to goad them into action. The key is for them to swing, and you not be embarrassed to dodge or back off, so that it's obvious to security that those people need to be kicked out, and you get to stay. I've only accomplished that twice in 25 yrs of shows. Usually they'll back off. Another tactic is to push past them and say you figured they wouldn't mind since they don't seem into the show, ha ha. My best experiences are showing up early and staying right up front. If I come late, I hang in the back, since I'm 6'1"+. Also, it's helped that bands I've seen lately are way too loud to even attempt to talk over.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have heard people complain that they went to a gig where the band was so loud that they couldn't even have a decent conversation...
― m the g, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
i prefer talking to people over going to concerts but its pretty lame that these people are paying $15 to talk in a loud bar
― max, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Stevie ... they were Glaswegians who'd come down to London for the opening night.
― ithappens, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
last gig I went to (and I don't get to many these days) featured someone shouting I LOVE THIS SONG! repeatedly throughout about three quarters of the songs. AAAAAAAH.
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
Ah, right. Good job you didn't try and fight them, then. Although, my name's not Stevie. xp
― anagram, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:18 (3 years ago) Permalink
Sorry anagram. Misread which post I was replying to.
― ithappens, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
I was not going to ruin it for him by making him be quiet. That he had paid for his ticket and he intended to savour every minute however he chose.
This level of selfish asshattery just boggles my brain. What a frightful human being.
At most other events (theatre, cinema, etc), you'd be able to get an attendant to give them them "you're spoiling it for other patrons" warning, but when faced with that kind of gibbering selfishness I doubt even that would work.
The biggest problem for me is that the talking itself is super distracting, then yr own irritation adds to this, THEN one's indignance and rage takes over with a final result that you're completely removed from the moment of enjoying the music, and it can take an age to get back into that mindset EVEN IF the yapping fuckwit does shut up when asked to. Which they rarely do, ime.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
Last year I went to see Neko Case at a seated show, and one girl in the audience was yelling shit loudly at the stage after every song -- nonsense stuff like "Neko, I want to have your baby!" to which Neko rightly responded with, "Uh, I think you're a little confused" -- until Neko finally asked her to please not ruin it for everyone else. Audience girl then called her a bitch, so Neko stopped the show and asked security to remove her, to thunderous applause.
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
There was a pretty classic discussion about this here several years ago, btw, but no phrases I'm putting into the search engine ("Talking At Live Shows," etc.) are turning anything up. Maybe it was just part of a bigger thread, I'm not sure, but somebody else can find it. Definitely also delved into the phenomenon of tall people standing in front of short people at shows, fwiw.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
Tall people look over the heads in a crowd and go "Oh look there's a hole in the crowd, nobody there!"
So they go into the spot, and see it's populated by shorter people.
And then go "oh. Oh well, it's better than over there" and STAY!
― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 14:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
The guy in front of you who insists on taking camera phone photos the whole time is just as annoying. I once had to watch an Animal Collective show through the camera of the jerk in front of me because it was packed and I couldn't move.
Also annoying to stand near: the freaky dancer.
Damn hippies.
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dealt with to some extent on this thread (but apparently there was an earlier one that talked about it more, because I mention it here too):
people who doesnt like to go to shows , although they love music, and live in a place where it's available - c/d?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
I actually really enjoy between song heckling, especially if it's at all witty. Though maybe this girl was just more obnoxious than anything. But if I could be disappointed in Neko case and her fans, if that were at all possible, I might be after reading this.
― Mister Jim, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
I hope I never attend a show with you Master Jim. Between song heckling is almost never "witty".
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
And even if it is, you have to choose your marks. For one thing, you don't do it after every song. For another, Neko Case?
― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
kinda disagree
"you don't rock" and "play the hit" were two of my favorites
when i go to a lot of shows i start to see a lot of the same people, 'specially if it's a trendy act in a small venue. i have sympathy for the idea of concerts as just an extension of your social life. but you should be nowhere near the front and respectful of listeners and if you're a ligger talking loudly i'm not sure i'd step in to save you if it led to your being beaten viciously.
― chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I'm not saying it can't be witty, but nine times out of ten the heckler thinks he or she is 1,000,000 times more witty than they actually are.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 19:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
Pretty glad I didn't go to the Girls show at teh Blue Note last night tbh
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
Though I would have liked to see Smith Westerns
One of my favourites concerns Bono on stage at a famine relief concert, whether true or not I don't know nor care.There he is standing centre stage between songs and he starts clicking his fingers every 3 seconds and he starts his sermon:"Everytime I click my fingers someone in Africa will die of starvation". He continues to slowly click his fingers to the silent crowd.Cue heckler:"Well stop clicking your bloody fingers then!"
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
xxp
there was no one there & everyone looked to be 18-20
smith westerns were really rad
― birther blood (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
I figured, with the weather and all. If I was going anywhere it would have been to the DIY show on Orr street to see my friends. The fact that no one was there and they were being really loud makes it worse. The Blue Note is so depressing when it is empty.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
Pretty used to being surrounded by 18-20 year olds.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bono.asp
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
whether true or not I don't know nor care
― chronicles of ridic (zvookster), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
congrats
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink
PaulTMA, why do you hate fun?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
sarge u were in the right they were in the wrong
i almost got beat up at a gwar show in like 96 cuz dudes were trying to start a pit by the back bar
― the dong remains the same (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink
Way to rain on my parade, Paul. :'(
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
Don't worry ilxor, I'll tell it to my friends as if it were true.
― Moka, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh, I rarely heckle myself. But I do enjoy it. Not if its overdone, true. But I like the way it deflates the typical show dynamic a bit. My favorite example, I guess, is at the end of some bands set and before they went offstage to wait out the inevitable encore, some guy yelled "play another song you fucking faggots!" Admittedly not witty, but it made me laugh. Now that I think about it, I only really like it when there's a roomful of people all rapt over some sensitive soul up there sharing their intelligence and genius or whatever. I like seeing that deflated.
xposts
― Mister Jim, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
this is how it's done
― guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
I think the thing is also that what even constitutes heckling or rude behavior at a show is going to depend a lot on the type of show it is. Like say a punk show and an indie show and a metal show and a jazz show are going to have totally different norms of behavior. Heckling is funniest at the indie show, and most obnoxious at the jazz one.
― Mister Jim, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
some guy yelled "play another song you fucking faggots!
Anyone that laughed at this is a disgusting savage imo.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:35 (3 years ago) Permalink
Heckling is funniest at the indie show
Everything is funniest at indie shows. Indie music is funny music.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Admittedly not witty, but it made me laugh.
typed with all the pride of a man boasting about the size of his last turd.
I only really like it when there's a roomful of people all rapt over some sensitive soul up there sharing their intelligence and genius or whatever.
yeah god forbid people go to shows to appreciate and enjoy artists they admire.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:41 (3 years ago) Permalink
tell you what'd be funnier than "play another song you fucking faggots" - punching "mister jim" in the face
sometimes a man boasting about the size of his last turd is pretty funny
― sarahel, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
i think ur wrong there
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
or just have a really low bar for "funny", whichever
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:43 (3 years ago) Permalink
a good heckle is shouting count-offs right before a band is getting ready to start a song like "1-2-3-4!" my friend got a band to "false start" two times in a row...that's stuck in your lizard brain as a musician, it's hard not to
― the dong remains the same (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 20:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 21:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
my favorite heckle from another ILM thread was to shout "one more song!" after the band's first song
― 99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
So can I safely conclude that the best way to get to the front of any show now is to take a $2000 camera lens with me?
The entire front row at the School Of Seven Bells show last night consisted of photographers (at maximum I counted 14). And I'm not counting folks with cameraphones either - these were all multi-thousand buck rigs with big lenses, etc. I've never seen that many photographers at a show before (outside of like of something like U2 or the Stones) and I had to wonder how many of them were actual music photographers and how many were there just to perv on the Deheza sisters.
Sure photojournalists gotta eat and all that, but why should I give up my place at the front just because you have a camera.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 3 June 2010 22:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
I make it a point to fart near photographers
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
then again when I'm at a show I fart near everyone
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 3 June 2010 23:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Tori Amos gets a couple of girls ejected mid-song, presumably for talking (comes at 2'28"):
Keith Jarrett bawls out a festival audience for taking photos:
― anagram, Tuesday, 8 June 2010 10:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
SHOREDITCH, LISTEN TO ME
LEARN. SOME. GODDAMN. MANNERS. STFU WHEN YOU'RE BEING SUNG TO. especially when the artist in question (glasser) (fucking awesome btw) prefaces a song with "this is a quiet one" and then has to look really awkward and embarrassed when NO ONE SHUTS UP. this was a sold-out ticket-only affair; everyone in the room had actively decided they wanted to check out glasser tonight. if they decided they didn't want to pay attention to her, the area is not exactly short of bars that they could have FUCKED THE FUCK OFF TO instead. fucking inane cunts! who the hell raised these people? that is what i want to know.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 11 October 2010 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
outdoor show last summer and some sad bootlegging bastard sets up in front of me, stands on a MILK CRATE which he had brought to the show so he could videotape it.
i wasn't moving because it was a rare patch of shade and the place was packed shoulder to shoulder.
i brought to his attention that he was blocking my view and the view of many other people as well.
he made clear that he intended to stay where he was and we could all move if we wanted to see.
about four songs in a big mike tyson looking dude told him to pack the fuck up unless he had a press card.
he packed up and then turned and called me an asshole because i had been blasting off REALLY FUCKING LOUD two finger whistles right behind him all show.
we all clapped as he left.
feels good to get that off my chest. thanks ILM....
― m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
What's the etiquette when you see a headliner in the crowd before they go on? E.g. is it OK to take pictures with them?
― Asparagus Peee (Leee), Friday, 18 February 2011 04:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
It okay to take pics if they're into it.. Always ask. If they are the slightest bit put off, then forget it. You don't what to fuck with there head space before they go on. But if they are out in the crowd, they have to expect some fanage...
― SeanWayne, Friday, 18 February 2011 06:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
I was amused by audience behaviour at a Dean-Wareham-plays-Galaxie-500 concert last week, where people were more or less shushing people for applauding too much between songs.
― The New Dirty Vicar, Friday, 18 February 2011 13:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
probably b/c people are applauding too much for a cash-grab tour on the G500 name/reputation featuring only one of the original band members?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
In a combination of the most recent question and original thread purpose, I was at a Guillemots gig a few years ago where the singer started with a quiet solo song and the person next to me carried on talking so I gave her a look. She stopped and apologised, and it turned out she was the bassist.
I am generally in favour of asking people to stop talking but was recently at a (seated) show where the guy next to me reacted in such an over the top and angry way to a small bit of talking that he put me on edge and spoilt the show far more than those chatting.
― if, Friday, 18 February 2011 15:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I've completely given up on asking people not to talk at shows or movies or whatever, because the seething rage I've gotten in return is far more upsetting than just dealing with it.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 16:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
I still have to give Bernard Butler credit all those years ago when he did a solo show in LA -- 1998 or so -- when he pretty much told all the music industry hacks at the bar to shut the hell up, to the mass applause of the audience. Said hacks then seethed about it via stories from friendly journalists to make it seem like Butler was the rude one.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
I saw the Dan Deacon ensemble in Milwaukee, and if you've ever seen his show, you'd know they get some really bizarre opening acts. This time there was this collective of like 7 guys, all with these weird electronic instruments (and maybe one guy with a bass guitar) that played this long, droney junk for like 20 minutes at a pop. No rhythm or melody, just dense noise. Of course if you're at a Dan Deacon show you're expecting to see something weird but all you could think was "what the hell are they doing up there?" At the end of the second piece I shouted, "ONE MORE TIME!!" which got a laugh but the group ACTUALLY PLAYED ONE MORE becuause of it, and it sounded just like the other two!! I thought the audience was going to kill me!!
― frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
do you remember what they were called?
― sarahel, Friday, 18 February 2011 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
Arcade Fire
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
who the fuck are theY?
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
Just looked it up...they were called Teeth Mountain
The other opener was Future Islands and they were really good.
― frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Is it me or does anyone else want to deck people who spend entire shows screaming out the title of one song over and over in hopes the band plays it. It's usually less an honest attempt to get the band to play it and more to show off how 'hardcore' a fan they are...especially since most setlists are pre-determined.
When I saw Savatage in 2001 this asshole kept screamong "fuck this, play SIRENS" over and over until they finally played it halfway through the show. It's like he paid 30 dollars to hear one three minute song.
Also at Deicide last year this fan kept screaming for one song...problem was they'd played it already. Shouts of "THEY ALREADY FUCKING PLAYED IT" had little deterrence.
― sarah, palin and tall (San Te), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
I was just about to complain about the exact same thing at the recent DC show. Some pervy guy immediately in front of me (I was 2nd row) was taking pictures of her every 15 seconds for the entire show. Snap, wait, admire the pic. Focus, snap, wait, admire. He must have taken 200+ photos.
― skip, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost
I'd like to hear that fan at a Bal Sagoth gig.
"PLAY THE SPLENDOUR OF A THOUSAND SWORDS GLEAMING BENEATH THE BLAZON OF THE HYPERBOREAN EMPIRE PART THREE!!!"
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
Lol I totally forgot about Bal-Sagoth. Fun stuff.
Yea death metal shows make it harder to shout requests for me. Like I would feel really mortified screaming "ENTRAILS RIPPED FROM A VIRGIN'S CUNT!"
― sarah, palin and tall (San Te), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
Haha, is that Regurgitator?
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
cannibal corpse
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
no hang on - there was a band that began with R who had brilliant Carcass meets Anal Cunt song titles... I forget their name. Like Regurgitator, but not?
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
AG - did you ever see the episode of Monkey Dust where the divorced Dad goes to see his son who has moved to Newcastle. He brings him a present of the latest Now! compilation, and the kid's reaction is: "Noo forty-two? I only listen'a Speed Metal. Yas got any Cannibal Corpse?".
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's like he paid 30 dollars to hear one three minute song.
Lots of people do exactly this, sadly. I remember seeing a Smashing Pumpkins show during the Mellon Collie tour where a row of eight people in front of us sat on their asses, talking and bitching about how crappy it was for the entire show, stood up and cheered for "1979", and then promptly left.
― rendezvous then i'm through with HOOS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
i thought teeth mountain was a highly rhythmic everybody-plays-drums drone band? i actually really liked the stuff on their myspace.
― bows don't kill people, arrows do (Jordan), Friday, 18 February 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
Hmmm yeah looking them up it seems like there were drums. Still didn't find the music terribly distinctive or very good. I might have them confused with someone who opened at a different Dan Deacon show, who basically breathed into a microphone for like 15 minutes at once and modified his voice with random electronic shit
― frogbs, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
AG - did you ever see the episode of Monkey Dust where the divorced Dad goes to see his son who has moved to Newcastle. He brings him a present of the latest Now! compilation, and the kid's reaction is: "Noo forty-two? I only listen'a Speed Metal. Yas got any Cannibal Corpse?".― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin)
― chandelier falling through a bar in a batman costume (dog latin)
I dont even know what Monkey Dust is!
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 18 February 2011 17:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
teeth mountain were the judge judy dead cat people, right?
― sarahel, Friday, 18 February 2011 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Is it me or does anyone else want to deck people who spend entire shows screaming out the title of one song over and over in hopes the band plays it.
I once read an interview with JAMC's Jim Reid complaining about how there was always some drunken idiot at Glasgow gigs shouting for "Vegetable Fuckin Man!" between songs. A few weeks later I was that drunken idiot :(
― AYE... MON THEN -----O----- (onimo), Monday, 21 February 2011 10:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
Um, Jim Reid? That was you, that was...
― Mark G, Monday, 21 February 2011 10:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
last week this one freakin tiny girl pushed her way to the front at some show, in an small club, to take pictures of the band with her freakin IPAD
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
prob one of the most ridiculous things I've seen so far
I hate the worthless fucking life-failures who record an entire show on their little digital camera. They usually have to hold it up like a foot above their heads, so if you're standing behind them, you have to look at a little TV screen the entire show. I've seriously considered just slapping it from their hands and when they turn around just staring them down.
― harbl bosses (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
so not cool
― iatee, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I've seriously considered just slapping it from their hands and when they turn around just going
― harbl bosses (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
whiney imagine that but with an ipad
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
like there were people standing around recording the show on their iphones all weirded out by it
yeah but sometimes it's fun to see your show on youtube the next day.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I would not feel the least bit guilty after "accidentally" knocking it out of her hands and stepping on it a few times.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
i rely on these ppl so i can see shows i was at on youtube the next day
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
i roll my eyes at people who pay more attention to capturing the show on their phone than to the show itself but i'll take a thousand of them over the loud talkers (and for that matter over the tall, oblivious people who stand in front of you just as you thought you;d found a nice sightline)
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
man, i hate people
― tupac, bach (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
gonna bring my macbook & use the isight camera next time i go to a show
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
hahah
― tupac, bach (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Only if you livestream it for us markers!
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
i got ur back www.ustream.tv
― markers, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm just going to bring a full length mirror to the show
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
wait what band are we doing this for
well its like, i dont really care that these people dont know how to enjoy a show. like i can enjoy it and then be like, omg this new song they did was so good to my friend alicia and make her watch youtube videos the next day. everybody wins. except for like the people who miss the show because they were filming it and the people who couldnt get tickets because it was sold out and the band who have to look at a row of cameras. and i guess my friend alicia.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm just going to bring my desk, chair, laptop, and snacks to my next live show so I can sit just like how I would when I watch it on youtube the next day.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
pretty much everyone at shows i go to are cool. this one time a girl asked me to stop smoking a joint at an acid mothers temple show. that was probably the worst, but she had asthma so i couldn't not do it, i just gestured at the stage and threw my hands up in exasperation like are you even AWARE of where we ARE right now
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
someone took a video of me playing a show a while ago & watching it was v instructive actually, made me realize what a dork i look like when i play shows
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't really care about ppl who film things or take pictures, I'm tall and will help you take a pic if you're short, I don't really have a uniform viewpoint on show etiquette really, but I try to act less like the dick I know I've been when I was younger
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
(and for that matter over the tall, oblivious people who stand in front of you just as you thought you;d found a nice sightline)
we're often not being oblivious so much as cruel
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh god people who blow fag smoke in your face >>>>:(
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
wat
― harbl bosses (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
Two whammies. The first was at a rare US show by the Bats. I was so excited to see them. So was the dude behind me, who decided to do one of those crazy loud finger whistles about a foot from my ear. Without even thinking, I whipped around and angrily yelled at him to shut the fuck up. He was just a little dude (like me) who clearly didn't consider that someone might like the sound of the band more than his loud whistle. He meekly apologized and didn't do it again.
The other one was better, one of my all-time favorite anecdotes. I went to see Kathleen Edwards at a smallish club. I was standing in the back. This dude and his friends were talking near me.
Girl: So, did you bring your harmonica?Dude: Nah, not tonight.Other dude: What harmonica?Girl: Oh, you don't know? Dude's jammed with Dylan, Dave Matthews, Blues Traveler...
I started eyeing this alleged all-star harmonica jammer when it the gist of their conversation suddenly struck me: this asshat brings his harmonica to shows and plays along in the crowd! I can't imagine anything more hellish, and that includes seeing Blues Traveler and DMB.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2011 20:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
idk im making an effort to not be annoyed by everyone and everything i guess
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
anybody who holds a $500 device in front of me at a show is already making pretty bad life decisions imo
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
There are $500 harmonicas?
― boxall, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
u need to spend the big bucks to jam with the big stars
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
actually there are $500 harmonicas! but that wasnt my intended ref
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
it is interesting how people feel like they have an inalienable right to document shows, no matter how intrusive they are or whether the performer(s) express the desire for them not to ... or not to do so in certain ways.
― sarahel, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like to believe i have a live-and-let-live attitude about these sort of things but if that harmonica guy eventually got stomped i would not because that is all-time douchebaggery
on the other hand the kind of shows you'd go to in order to play harmonica in the crowd probably wouldn't involve audiences quick to anger
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i mean that harmonica guy is probably unbearable but its kindof easier to laugh at him than to get cross with him.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
<3 u plax but some of us are rageballs by nature
― horseshoe, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
plz note: i have documented the fate of a harmonica play along guy on a different ilx thread and it doesnt end well
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
how could you not laugh at the harmonica guy? i mean, really
― sarahel, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
anyone who BRINGS AN INSTRUMENT to a show when they're not in the band is in the "first against the wall" category imo
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
They would probably bring their own rifle along to that tbh
― Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
i remember the most frustrating experience was seeing live music in spain where everybody claps (?) along all the time. its like all you hear is clapping. its p confusing at first and then you start thinking about how much the ticket cost.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
i used to enjoy going to shows and then i started getting paid to do it four or five nights a week for three or four years and now i am happy to have my rocking chair and a cup of tea and a nice blanket
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think after nine or ten years of going to shows four or five night a week you develop a zen-like attitude -- at least that was my experience
― sarahel, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
thats probably hearing loss
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Think how good you would be on harmonica by now if you had taken it along to each of those gigs.
― Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
possibly - people are often less annoying when what they're saying is less intelligible
― sarahel, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some dude put two beers on the floor next to where I was sitting and then proceeded to jump into the mosh pit. People proceed to walk through the area where dude placed his beer.He came back fifteen minutes later and only found one of his beers then looked at me and asked "where's the other one?"You're on your own, fuckface.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't get the people who spend the entire show making trip after trip after trip back to the bar, spending more time carefully shoving through the crowd with two beers in each hand than they do actually watching the show. Do it properly folks, load up on your beer at a cheap bar down the street, then go to the show. Less annoying and much cheaper.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
one time i brought a six pack to some loft show, was standing nowhere near the stage, put it on the floor next to me for a second, and this american apparel clad doofus goes running for the stage when a band came on, sending himself and my beers sprawling. i was torn between rage over the beer and delight over his pratfall.
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
presumably you could still hear the music while making the frequent bar visits ... like, i don't really get why one needs to be able to see the musicians playing in order to have a full concert experience.
― sarahel, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
ah what the hell, copying this from the hidden thread because it isnt like this dude can use google or anything
So this morning this regular customer who is sort of an inveterate drunk and a complete ass comes in and is all slurry mouthed (presumably from lingering booze) and asks for a harmonica in the key of G. I tell him we don't have one and he starts asking if I know how to clean harmonicas, and while im telling him to soak it in water and hope for the best etc, he produces a blood soaked rag wrapped around a blood encrusted harmonica and sets it on the counter (aaagghj). He explains that last night he was at the bar and decided to play harmonica along with the band (not on stage, but just loudly over at the bar), at which point the guy next to him punched him in the harmonica, and by proxy the mouth, which now is a small cemetery of partial tooth stubs. Which explains the speech pattern i suppose.added bonus: thanks to his sleeveless shirt i now know that his arms are covered with about 15 jailhouse swastikas, a crudely done eagle with a syringe in its mouth, a wolf engaged in mortal combat with (i think) a diseased raccoon, and "I LIKE TO FUCK" in big block lettering.― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:31 PM (1 year ago)
added bonus: thanks to his sleeveless shirt i now know that his arms are covered with about 15 jailhouse swastikas, a crudely done eagle with a syringe in its mouth, a wolf engaged in mortal combat with (i think) a diseased raccoon, and "I LIKE TO FUCK" in big block lettering.
― CUSE EX MACHINA (jjjusten), Saturday, May 29, 2010 4:31 PM (1 year ago)
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
sarahel if you want to know what someone looks like cumming you have to watch them play guitar
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
...daddy?
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
punched him in the harmonica is all time writing
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I get this, but its annoying to have to constantly move out of the way for these people making all the trips back and forth. I was recently at a show at the Chicago Theatre, which has fixed seating and even when standing there isn't enough room for people to get by down the aisles, and of course the pair sitting in the middle of our row made about 12 trips to the bar.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I remember some girl pushing up to the front of the stage, pointing at Paul Westerberg who was six inches away and asking me "So who's that?"
― http://tinyurl.com/whitepony (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:06 AM Bookmark
― (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
the inability to drink comfortably and free of stress while watching a show are down to structural inadequacies rather than individual failings
― lex pretend, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think that's a fair assessment.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jesus Christ will y'all stop fuckin goin to shows so the rest of us can have good drunken fun. Stay at at home w/yr Lawrence Welk
― am I diversified? (blank), Friday, 22 July 2011 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
gladly!
― apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 22 July 2011 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
lawrence welk is entertaining as hell btw.
a couple of weeks ago i went to a club w/ a motown covers band cuz its fun to dance to 60s music and the dancefloor was crammed full of ppl standing still, recording & taking pictures of the band on their phones & i was like "..." but also felt sadly close to that whiney post where he wishes some kind of painful cancer on these ppl
― stepmomster (Lamp), Friday, 22 July 2011 01:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
that reminds me of a dance party i went to last month, where a half dozen people showed up with hula hoops.
― sarahel, Friday, 22 July 2011 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'll tell you has poor show etiquette: opening bands. It's like, please don't play we don't care about you
― am I diversified? (blank), Friday, 22 July 2011 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is why I like shows by "heritage" acts; middle-aged folks keep their phones in their pockets.
― mike t-diva, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
In re: the people go back and forth to the bar during the show. When I lived in the Netherlands and you would go to decent-sized gigs, they would have dudes with kegs strapped to their backs and long sleeves of plastic cups roaming the crowd. You would just wave them over, pay them, and they would dispense beer to you right then and there. Fucking brilliant, has anyone else ever seen this? It's like the perfect solution IMO.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Sunday, 24 July 2011 08:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
The same people that get mad at the bar hoppers would get mad at keg dudes moving around their area. It sounds great to me, though
― am I diversified? (blank), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I really wish people wouldn't continue to do the following things at metal shows:
A. Do "hardcore" dances. There's a place for these -- HARDCORE SHOWS. If you're not at one of those, KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF AND MOSH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. otherwise it just causes people to get unnecessarily hurt
B. drag people (intentionally or semi-intentionally) who have no desire to mosh into the pit
C. get butthurt while they're moshing if they fall over after they're hit by someone by someone who was...merely moshing the same as they were.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
No way, I hate the bar hoppers but would totally be down with roaming keg dispensers.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Moshing is tedious when I'm not in the mood and amazing when I am.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love doing it in venues where it works properly. one of the places I go often is very wide but not very deep, which makes moshing uncomfortable and difficult, but this other place I went has such a deep floor that it's a hell of a lot of fun.
― Neanderthal, Monday, 25 July 2011 00:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw Judas Priest last week and one of the great things about it was that the crowd was like 90% made up of real lifer-lookin' metal sorts who were totally au fait with how to behave at a Priest show, ie NO FUCKING MOSHING
― nude defending a headcase (DJ Mencap), Monday, 25 July 2011 00:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea, same when I saw Savatage ten years ago
― Neanderthal, Monday, 25 July 2011 01:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
The thing about the keg guys is the simplicity is what makes it brilliant. Unlike bar hoppers/cocktail waitresses there are no decisions to be made except "how many?" You can indicate this non-verbally as well, making the entire transaction silent and pretty unobtrusive. The guys aren't milling around the entire show loudly hocking their wares, like at a baseball game. They just pass through the crowd at strategic moments and you beckon them over.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 25 July 2011 02:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
It would definitely work in this college town.Not such a big deal since no one goes to shows, anyway.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 25 July 2011 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sounds awesome. Also semi-self regulating when your stack of cups gets too unwieldly.
― am I diversified? (blank), Monday, 25 July 2011 03:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Trying to picture a guy with a keg of his beer on his back, standing in a dark pit of audience members, trying to break a twenty from some drunk frat guy.
― (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 25 July 2011 03:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
And me standing behind this transaction.
― (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 25 July 2011 03:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
For Curren$y's set at Pitchfork Fest last weekend, I staked out a spot close to the stage, despite being uncomfortably surrounded by sweaty strangers. I overheard a couple of kids next to me while waiting for him to go on. Her: So who's this band?Him: It's not a band, it's a rapper. Her: Oh. Is he any good?Him: Not really.
All I could think was "You're taking up my elbow room."
Festival audiences are a thing unto themselves, though.
― jaymc, Monday, 25 July 2011 05:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Shit, that would have made me cry
― am I diversified? (blank), Monday, 25 July 2011 05:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
They had roaming keg dispensers at Lovebox last Sunday. GODSEND.
There was another good solution at Splendour yesterday: drinks could only be bought with pre-paid tokens, bought from a separate desk. This meant that you only had to join one queue all day, which you could schedule to suit. And as there was no cash to faff around with at the bars themselves, service was instantaneous.
― mike t-diva, Monday, 25 July 2011 11:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh god the tokens thing has never worked anywhere i've encountered it - i get why it'd be effective in theory but in practice it just leads to TWO huge queues.
roaming drink-sellers are a great solution wherever there's actually room for them to roam, which sadly excludes the vast majority of sold-out shows.
― lex pretend, Monday, 25 July 2011 11:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was once dragged by hair and feet to some Texas Motor Speedway to see the goddam HORDE Festival in full effect. The Republic of Texas had some sort of system where you had to get an I-card, some sort of state verification that your driver's license was real, before you could get alcohol from another vendor. Lines for both booths were hundreds of yards long in the July sun, so I didn't drink, sitting through Dave Fucking Matthews sober as a statue. I hate Texas.
Anyway, that sounds like what would happen if they tried the token thing. Seems like a scam like those festivals where all the vendors take "River Bucks" or something like that, and it's non-returnable.
― (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Lines for both booths were hundreds of yards long in the July sun, so I didn't drink, sitting through Dave Fucking Matthews sober as a statue. I hate Texas.
I don't know if you have other reasons for hating Texas, but this seems like plenty to me.
― Josef K-Doe (WmC), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's not like Texas itself killed JFK, but I'd understand why Jackie never wended to go back.
― (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
wended? wanted
― (Pleasant Plains), Monday, 25 July 2011 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Here's something interesting and semi-related; Alternative Press interviewing bands about what fans should and shouldn't do when meeting their favorite band.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 25 July 2011 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Phew, now I know what not to ask the douches in Pierce the Veil next time I encoutner them.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 25 July 2011 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don’t ask me to tweet you happy birthday for two reasons: 1. No one should have to ask for someone else to wish them happy birthday and 2. If I do say happy birthday to you, the floodgates open and everyone and their mother wants a birthday tweet.
― its realy sad, it was a R.I.P. thread (kkvgz), Monday, 25 July 2011 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
kinda-sorta not related in any way, but i interviewed fountains of wayne for my zine back around the time of their first album, and asked chris to dedicate a song to my gf from the stage later on that night. he did, but the song he chose to dedicate to her was 'she's got a problem'.
― i'm not a lawyer, but i play one on a messageboard (stevie), Monday, 25 July 2011 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
what fans should and shouldn't do when meeting their favorite band.
fans shouldn't meet their favourite band imo
always leads to disappointment
― Who? Well, I've never heard of Mogwai. (electricsound), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
speaking of disappointment, i've practically given up on going to see my favorite bands, let alone meet them.
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 00:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just gestured at the stage and threw my hands up in exasperation like are you even AWARE of where we ARE right now
― night of the living based gods (flopson), Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:52 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark
<333333333333333
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 05:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Meeting your favorite artists can be awkward, but you have to remember there's no social rules for when a stranger and an intimate meet. You think you KNOW these people but you don't, at all, you're a complete stranger to them. Personally, I like to shake their hands and say "Thanks" and be on my way. Length social interaction and unrealistic expectations is what leads to disappointment.
Having said that I've had almost all positive experiences meeting musicians.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Personally, I like to shake their hands and say "Thanks" and be on my way.
yep!
― ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
every once in a while if its someone I've been listening to for 20 years, I'll hit them with a quick question about the making of a song—rap legend Milk D hit me off with a pretty detailed story about the making of the "Top Billin" beat fairly recently and I was psyched. But if it's someone newer, I usually just give a pound and dash. I passed Yelawolf in a hotel lobby, and I had been listening to his record non-stop that month, but I didn't really have much more to say than "Love your record to death, keep it up, man" and then I bounced.
― ennui morricone (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
basically, i think the rule with famous ppl is you get one question, so make it not stupid.
In my experience you should always start off with "Can I show you my tattoo of you?" and start undoing your pants.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
SHANE TOLD of SILVERSTEINWhat is the one question fans should not ask you? “Will you sign my boobs?” “Do you get a lot of groupies?” “Can I be your groupie?” Those questions are all pretty awkward.
all signs point to: you wish this was a problem for you, Shane.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ran into Jason Spaceman in a record shop once, couldn't even bring myself to say "I love your music" and then I regretted it.I was hungover and just too intimidated. He's not really an extrovert, nor am I.I've had nothing but positive experiences with meeting artists whose music I enjoy, though.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp: ffm, it's because these bands are basically traveling emo theater troupes that come around to middle schools. the awkwardness of the groupie question for shane probably has to do with broaching the topic of a govt-issued i.d.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ah, good point! Had not considered that.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
the one time i had a non-interview social interaction w/one of my musical faves was when we both happened to be in the audience at a show at a dive bar. i bought him a drink, thanked him for getting me into the replacements, and left him alone.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
you shouldn't shy away. i met Fredrik of Datarock and Hiro of Polysics and both of them were really awesome people. Freddy's one of the quickest guys I've ever met and he invited us to the afterparty; was really really fun to drink with
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
The other one was better, one of my all-time favorite anecdotes. I went to see Kathleen Edwards at a smallish club. I was standing in the back. This dude and his friends were talking near me.Girl: So, did you bring your harmonica?Dude: Nah, not tonight.Other dude: What harmonica?Girl: Oh, you don't know? Dude's jammed with Dylan, Dave Matthews, Blues Traveler...I started eyeing this alleged all-star harmonica jammer when it the gist of their conversation suddenly struck me: this asshat brings his harmonica to shows and plays along in the crowd! I can't imagine anything more hellish, and that includes seeing Blues Traveler and DMB.
fucking lol
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 03:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm sure the point has been made before upthread, but it still amazes me that there really are people, it seems, that just go along to a gig (having bought tickets!!!) to catch up with each other and don't pay attention to what's going on on stage. It's bad enough in a loud gig - I've had to move away from constant chatterers in some quite noisy places - but it's unforgivable when the music is quiet and gentle. Go somewhere else, please.
I mention this today because Marissa Nadler posted this earlier this morning on Facebook:
"toronto- another talking crowd. thank god for amelia being here! :-) nothing more humiliating than singing songs in front of a room full of people mostly not listening. to be fair, there were a good number of people that were listening. it makes me want to go back to school to become a dental assistant or something...so thank you to those that were... listening."
― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 07:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw that too. I love Marissa but in this case she was the support act so only a minority of people would have been there to see her. Sure the talkers are f*cking rude but tbh I think it comes with the territory when you are the support act and your music is as quiet and still as hers is. Maybe she could have tried calling them out and telling them to be quiet but she doesn't come across as that kind of person. In cases like this I actually think the venue is culpable, they should have staff going round telling people to be quiet.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 10:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
That wouldn't sell drinks very well. I think if you play quiet music, you need to amplify the fuck out of that shit to run with the big dogs. That's one of the big reasons why people go to shows right - to be able to listen to music at a volume that you can't reasonably achieve at home? Why not crank it, Marissa?
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
That wouldn't sell drinks very well
Yeah cos putting on shows is just a way of increasing bar takings after all, f*ck the people who've come to hear the music.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well, I mean, I'm just trying to think from a bar owner's perspective!
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean, I honestly don't know from a bar owner's perspective. Never owned a bar. But I would think that the only time they'd want staff to tell somebody not to do something would be if they were doing something that makes the bar owner liable.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
I once saw Lisa Germano opening for eels to a very talkative crowd. During a delicate intro on guitar she deliberately hit a wrong chord and apologized saying "Woops, sorry, couldn't hear myself" and then continued with the song. People laughed, went quiet but were buzzing again within two songs.That's the most realistic way to deal with it imo, try to make the people notice you, either by making a joke/funny comment or "cranking it" a bit more at times.
― willem, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
p sure you guys would be doing the same if it was some oasis tribute act performing, y'know
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
like if it's a bar, people will talk, it's a bar, they probably don't care about the music
if it's a gig, people will talk, they might just be there to hang out, check out bands they haven't heard before
i mean if it's that bad, and everyone is talking while you're playing, you're probably not that good, or you're playing the wrong show...
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 12:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
If it was an Oasis tribute act, this would be irrelevant because they wouldn't be performing quietly.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
It helps if the support has been well matched to the headliner. I saw Rachel Sermanni - a solo acoustic performer - supporting Ron Sexsmith last week, in a standing venue, and there was no chat whatsoever, even though barely anyone in attendance would have heard of her before. Or perhaps that just reflects well on Ron Sexsmith's audience.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean there are any number of reasons why a person might talk during a show and on some nights you might not get those people with those reasons but some nights, you will.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
loved it when robyn hitchcock turned up at a bar a couple of months ago for a surprise show and stunned everyone to near silence (this bar never shuts up when ppl are playing)
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
If the act isn't any good, they probably deserve what's coming to them. That's a bit over the top... what I mean is that a band has to take some share of the responsibility if the audience isn't responding to them. On the other side of that coin, you have a situation like the one Crackle Box describes above.
On a different (but not unrelated) note, a friend of mine yelled at the end of a Yacht gig recently, when the band were taking their final applause, "YOU WERE REALLY NOT THAT BAD!"
― Daniel Giraffe, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean there are any number of reasons why a person might talk during a show
the main one being that they are rude ignoramuses
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes, absolutely, but I was responding to mike t-diva's idea that "perhaps that just reflects well on Ron Sexsmith's audience" that there was no chat during the quiet opening act. I doubt that it reflects any individual artists' audience composition. Rather I think it's probably just a matter of luck that Kaleigh didn't bring her bitchy roommate who needed to blow off steam and have a few drinks after getting in a fight with her boyfriend to the Ron Sexsmith show tonight.
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
if it's a gig, people will talk, they might just be there to hang out
hang out somewhere fucking else if you want to talk. there are plenty of places to go if you want to do that!
the oasis tribute act point is moot because i obviously wouldn't acquire a ticket to that gig.
― i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
can we go back up to the harmonica story for a second, because that is unbelievable
also I tend to harmonize during shows, sorry everyone around me
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 13:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
(esp. shows where the band's singer overdubbed the harmonies on record so they never get performed live)
There's really no excuse. If it's a gig with a cover/ticket price I don't know why you would pay for the privilege of ruining someone else's night. Bars/clubs that have live music generally have more expensive, worse drinks and less attentive bartenders. If you just wanna drink and chat, you know, there are a lot of places for that. I just don't think people should see a gig as, primarily, a social experience. Of course you're gonna see your show buddies and shoot the shit, etc., but the reason to pay money to see music is to see music and not be annoyed by the people around you. The absolute worst, to my mind, is not people who talk throughout the entire gig (such a common and reprehensible type they are beneath comment) but people who talk loudly through songs they don't know/like/get and then become super enthusiastic when the performer plays a recognizable tune. One of the reasons I've turned more and more away from "song-based" sets over the years.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw Pete Townshend solo in 1997 at a smallish venue (Chicago House of Blues), and there was constant chatter from most of the audience for most of the show. I was down front, and people were carrying on loud conversations about shit like what they did that day at work. The tickets were pricey for the time ($95), and all I could think was, "You paid $95 to talk about how Julie from accounting didn't get her reports in yesterday?" At one point, Pete was saying to his soundman that he couldn't hear his in-ear monitors, and added, "Of course, it's probably because of this fucking audience."
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
The odd thing was, people quieted down for probably the least-well-known tune of the night (a cover of the Flying Burrito Brothers' "Christine's Tune").
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's a special place in hell reserved for earlier-billed acts who then talk all the way through the sets of later-billed acts. I witnessed this a few times over, at a recent open mike show. Admittedly, the acts were almost all crap, but the principle still stands!
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha, i don't think i go to those kind of shows where this would ever be an actual problem tbg
i think that "everyone should be getting this on the same level as me" thing is kinda hilarious tho
so what if a group of ppl want to go hear their favourite song and have a laugh while they're doing it
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
mfb otm
― i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
BECAUSE IT'S RUDE AND MAKES THOSE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE THEY WERE RAISED IN A BARN
i love that john cage quotation in one of his satie essays "there'll probably be some music, but we'll find a quiet place to talk"
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think we've all experienced the annoying chattering ppl at gigs/cinema/theatre/the bus/at work/in the street/next door/IN LIFE lex, and yes it can be annoying
the opposite of this annoys me more, tbh, when you're at really vibing gig and there's a serious group of ppl near you that aren't vibing at all. at prince/hop farm earlier this year we were surrounded by people like you lot who are there FOR THE MUSIC and not to have FUN totally ruined it for me and i don't think prince was best pleased
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
can we go back up to the harmonica story for a second, because that is unbelievablealso I tend to harmonize during shows, sorry everyone around me― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:55 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
― Tal Berkowitz - Vaccine advocate (DJP), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:55 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
Guilty of this too. And I'm not a particularly great singer, so I'm especially sorry.
― Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
people like you lot who are there FOR THE MUSIC and not to have FUN
Not as bad as the people who won't shut up, but still annoying.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
the music IS the fun
though if you mean the people who stand stock still for a performer you're obviously meant to dance to, then i agree
― i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have to admit, my g/f (bless her) is one of these "talkie" people and she's been shushed a few times (I try to refrain from doing it myself, but y'know, there's a limit). She's not as big a music fan as me, so I think she genuinely doesn't realise she's disrupting things - one or two glasses of wine and she's a uninhibitedly babbling away.
― Yo wait a minute man, you better think about the world (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
tsk
― Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's a special place in hell reserved for earlier-billed acts who then talk all the way through the sets of later-billed acts.
Also later-billed acts who talk all over earlier-billed acts.
Don't mind people chatting if they're right at the back, but don't stand in the middle of the crowd blabbing. I mean, most of my social circle is made up of people who I met at gigs, but I have conversations with them before the bands, during changeover, and after, NOT while the music is playing.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
i just start chanting loudly SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP not at them specifically but at an angle to the air. they either get it or get wigged out by crazy guy and move.
lol felt like an ass for bringing my roommates to a pinback show way back, i was up front and could hear them in back.
― fauxmarc, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
roommates otm
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
I feel like there is a fertile period during and just after college where you're enthusiastically inviting friends/roommates/gfs out to shows and then you realize it's not worth the trouble.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've found myself a small group of friends who enjoy shows as much/in the same modes as i do, it's kinda great.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 September 2011 15:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
a new entry into BAD SHOW ETIQUETTE @ d'angelo last night
every so often this group of cunts in front of me would, like, light up a surreptitious fag and pass it round between them? crouching down to hide it? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU CAN'T YOU GO TWO GODDAMN HOURS WITHOUT NICOTINE YOU DISGUSTING ADDICTS.
in line with my new ZERO TOLERANCE attitude to bullshit of all stripes i asked them to put it out the second time, and was backed up by the tiny fierce woman next to me AND the woman next to her. they tried to ignore us but one of the women said she WOULD get security if they didn't stub it out.
later on one of the boys got another fag out - with lightning speed my neighbour jabbed him in the ribs and said menacingly "i hope you're not thinking of lighting that"
i hope that at some point in their lives they get cigarettes stubbed out on their eyeballs
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i had a similar experience at hawkwind before xmas, tho it was a 'special' cigarette, and tbh it probably would have been a better show if we were all high
― RejoicingShepherd (stevie), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
haw, i was saying to my friends on the way out that if it had been a spliff i'd have been way more sympathetic and wouldn't have said a thing - i found the fact that it was just a normal roll-up way more offensive
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
i know, why risk it if its just for a ciggie??
― RejoicingShepherd (stevie), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think that's obvious - because cigarettes are now viewed as way more antisocial and therefore have more rebellious cache than spliffs.
― Drexciya's Midnight Runners (Wheal Dream), Saturday, 4 February 2012 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
Last show I went to someone came up to me to berate me for reading a book whilst the support band were playing. Maybe they were friends of the band or something. I just told them I could still hear the band, unfortunately.
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm really hoping you mean that you told dude that it was unfortunate that you could still hear the band.
― frogbs, stills, and nash (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I did :)
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
sweet :)
― frogbs, stills, and nash (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
nothing was worse than listening to this kid ramble on prior to the Jay-Z/Kanye show on my b'day. I guess taht's the bummer with stadium shows, is having to listen to individual convos. But he wouldn't shut up. He loudly criticized a kid for wearing a Wiz Khalifa shirt to the show ("oh man, wear it to a Mac Miller show, not a JAY-Z show"), and then for about twenty minutes, started going on and on about how he hoped Jay-Z performed "99 Problems" because it was clearly the greatest Jay-Z song of all time (footnote: RONG).
Then he starts playing music on his cell phone (I was like whatev, show hasn't started yet), listening to stuff from Watch the Throne...and then goes "Man, hold on, I got some really old school Jay-Z here. don't think most fans remember this one, maybe some"...so I'm thinking dude is about to queue up his guest spot on "Hawaiian Sophie" or "In My Lifetime", and dude starts playing...."Encore". SPECIFICALLY the Linkin Park-Jay-Z mashup version. Dude was acting O.G. smug about having this song on his iPOD?
Then...he started rapping the opening to "99 Problems"...over...and over...and over behind me. Just the chorus. It was like Chinese water torture after a while because he'd stop for 5 minutes or so, then do it again.
About the time I was getting ready to turn around and throttle the kid, some dudes came up and said he and his friend were in their seats. He tried to argue that no, it was THEY that were in the wrong section, and that this was section 406 (it was 405), so all of us (including me) turned around and said NO IT ISN'T. and he whines loudly that the usher "put us over here", blaming her that he apparently couldn't see the giant "405" that was like 500 feet from his head).
I was so happy when he moved. but I also felt bad for who had to sit in front of him. I hope that when Jay actually did perform "99 Problems" that he had an inner ear problem for just the duration of the song.
― frogbs, stills, and nash (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
*50 feet
― frogbs, stills, and nash (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
looooooooooool
hmmm lex there were some dudes sharing a spliff up the back but they were stood out of the way and no-one, including staff seemingly said anything or had a problem. (they were kinda in the dark though, so maybe they didnt see them.) they werent acting like dicks about it though, which i think is more the issue.
show etiquette stickler for me: you at a packed show, dont dance like you are fucking flashdance. everyone should have a bit of room but dont start waving your arms and shit about like the room is empty. [was abt 15 yards away so it wasnt in my face but it was pissing off the lot next to me.]
― a hoy hoy, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
old school Jay Z, encore, LOL
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean to be fair kid had to be like 16 but I mean this is the age of the internet, you should know how ignorant that sounds when you say that out loud!
I keep imagining that when "Hard Knock Life" came on he was thinking to himself "hmm this must be a b-side or something!"
― frogbs, stills, and nash (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
omg people smoking cigarettes, stay the fuck home
― adam, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
not the people smoking
you
― adam, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
nice poem
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes its clearly the people that aren't engaged in disgusting habits that are detrimental to the health of those around them that should stay home, yes sir.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is why I try not to go to shows, bcz people are there
― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, February 6, 2012 9:23 PM (1 hour ago)
engaging in disgusting habits that are detrimental to the health of those around them = humanity
― sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes, then that obviously excuses you for being a disrespectful asshole in a public place.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
there are a lot of ways one can be a disrespectful asshole in a public place, as I'm sure others have told you, jon.
― sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
― regal xenophobe (electricsound), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol @ smokers trying to justify their disgusting habit
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
had no idea people clandestinely smoke tobacco cigarettes in clubs, that is weird.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't smoke
― regal xenophobe (electricsound), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
xp Shakey: I've experienced it every time I've gone to a show at the Regency Ballroom in SF. The weed smoke/smell is much much stronger though.
― sarahell, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
routinely smoked weed at larger clubs/venues when I used to go to those sorts of places - that was before the ban on smoking indoors tho, I guess.
― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
ont dance like you are fucking flashdance. everyone should have a bit of room but dont start waving your arms and shit about like the room is empty.
^^This is known as the Beatle Bob clause.
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 6 February 2012 22:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't get why lex was so angry with the ppl smoking a cigarette
― jabba hands, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
b/c it was a non-smoking venue maybe
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
b/c he did not want to go home smelling of tobacco or breathe it in
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
all of the above
> b/c it was a non-smoking venue maybe
everywhere in england is, it's the law.
― koogs, Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
the relatively new law
i don't smoke and think it should be effectively illegal anywhere in public,, and would probably sympathize with lex in that story assuming it was indoors and non-smoking, but if it's like at a festival or large outdoor concert you pretty much have to dealwithit.jpg when it comes to ppl smoking near you
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
― koogs, Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:19 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wow didn't know this, kudos england
― diln (k3vin k.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I know, I'm English too
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 9 February 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, 5 years now! maybe my favourite piece of legislation of the past decade
they didn't get it either. they were cunts
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
i was v happy that the two women next to me joined in with me
if it's against the rules, and someone complains, then they should either put it out or move elsewhere in the venue where they're not bothering anyone.
― sarahell, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
smoking indoors is the ultimate expression of how punk rock you are
― owenf, Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=btx0aoH2uKI#t=272s
― Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Where in America can you still go see a show at a smokey bar? (nb: I haven't seen a show in like 6 years).
― beachville, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maryland and Washington, D.C. have had bar/restaurant smoking bands since '07-'08, which is awesome, i sometimes forget how shitty the air in clubs used to be or that people in other states still have to put up with it
― Alshipleyan Goalpostmover (some dude), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Detroit still allows smoking in bars, clubs and restaurants.
― The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i went to belgium a couple of years after the england smoking ban came in, and i remember walking into a bar and feeling as though i'd been hit by a physical wall of smoke
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
there were a few Low Life parties that were in the basement of this club that you could smoke in. Even as a smoker the novelty wore of in like 1 second.
― owenf, Thursday, 9 February 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Interviewed Craig Finn the other day and we talked a bit about gig etiquette. He said:
There’s a weird thing as well of people who want to be front and centre whether they enjoy it or not. There was a girl in New Orleans. Her boyfriend was having the time of his life and they were front row centre. She was crying, storming off to get a reaction then coming back and crying, then being dramatically dejected and flopping down on the stage. We got between a song and I said: “You’re really distracting me. I would like for you to leave.” And the whole crowd started cheering. Then she said: “It’s his fault!” I was like, “It doesn’t look like it to me. You look like the problem.”
He was the one who dragged her along! Wasn’t it his fault?
He was fine for her to go! They probably got married. That’s my experience with those things. Those people find each other and stick together.
― Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Thursday, 9 February 2012 20:18 (1 year ago) Permalink