Four Tet - There Is Love In You (2010)

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Spent a couple of hours with the Ringer EP from 2008 on repeat last night in anticipation of this, which then happily I was able to acquire this morning.

Couple of minutes in and I am pleased, very pleased, to report that Kieron appears to be carrying on in that vein; 4/4 beats, beautiful loops, no trace of what some might term "folktronica".

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Plus, as usual, love the cover;

http://991.com/newGallery/Four-Tet-There-Is-Love-In-494433.jpg

More "typical" Four Tet-y beat on track 2, still minimal loopiness atop though.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Female vocals, albeit cutup and looped, on both tracks so far, which is a new acquisition in the sound palette.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Some more prototypical Four Tet harp/string-plucks start track 3, but the 4/4 beat is still very much in evidence, and the strings are pretty quickly subsumed.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 11:14 (fourteen years ago) link

This Unfolds is really, really pretty.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Like astonishingly beautiful.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Psyched for this... is there much of a dubstep influence? You'd expect so given his work with Burial and parts of his Resident Advisor mix.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not the best qualified to comment on that.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:06 (fourteen years ago) link

digging everything hes done since ringer, was always a fan but fuck

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

But if you liked the Ringer EP you'll be happy. I liked the Burial collab; I guess I can see parallels. I dunno what dubstep means anymore. The beats are very straightforward. There's lots of burbling. Lots of very pretty digital loops. Not much in the way of acoustic instruments.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:07 (fourteen years ago) link

(they are doing the essential mix on bbc radio 1, this saturday morning if anyone's interested)

koogs, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks for the tip, SM, this is fantastic. I've no hard copy yet, but it's streaming at http://www.fourtet.net/ this week.

Bill A, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 13:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, there's a bit of Burial influence in this. Love Cry.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

hey any cassie samples?

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh 4/4 beats

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

ah the dreaded 4/4 beat

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Just listened all the way through for the first time... wow, it really doesn't sound like the other Four Tet albums. Not a bad thing at all, just really noticeable. Looking forward to listening to this more.

I loved Ringer so I don't mind the new direction at all. Really glad the female vocals seem to disappear after the first couple of tracks. Love Cry has such a clubby vibe thanks to those vocals.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ah the dreaded 4/4 beat

ha

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

This is definitely his most digital release (bar Ringer), if that makes sense.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

4/4 beats are just lazy and boring outside of a club setting, but if the rest is really remarkable I could overlook it. Is it? The bits of Rounders I've heard didn't do much for me.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

do you realize how ridiculous you sound

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

do you realize i couldn't give half a shit if you think i sound ridiculous

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh people misusing the term "4/4"

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

if you think i sound ridiculous

i assure you, it's not just me

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link

dude if you can't tell me about this album, how bout you kindly stfu?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

now i'm trying to imagine what it would be like to only listen to music that's not 4/4 and it's an interesting thought

ciderpress, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

cutty is saying that you mean "four on the floor" or something similar, not 4/4

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

no, you're saying that. he's just being a douche. 4 on the floor yeah. was just copying the original post. So if I wasn't impressed by Rounders, should I bother with this one?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It's very different from Rounders, but it's also more, uh, "danceable"? I don't know... I wouldn't get too caught up in all this "4/4" shit. It's not like he's throwing down a rave album. It's still a composed record from beginning to end, with all the attendant peaks and valleys (based on one listen).

Streaming for free at http://www.fourtet.net, as noted above.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Whatever the record is, none of it feels "lazy and boring" - I can definitely say that much.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Cool, thank you, def will check out that link when I get home.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:43 (fourteen years ago) link

stop calling it "rounders" ppl

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link

rounders in 4/4 beats

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

uh that is so lazy i only listen to songs in 7/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZbp34ahDzs

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

please to forgive me for getting the name wrong of a record that i didn't like. i can really see how annoying that would be for you. cutty thank you for your help here, much appreciated.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

i have no idea y u r posting on this thread

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought "Rounders" seemed wrong when I was typing but the correct title escaped me.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

cause i liked all Four Tet up til Rounds, and am wondering if I should give this one a chance. i know it's prob a foreign concept to you to post when seeking knowledge/advice rather than just snapping on mistakes made by others and clowing on them.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

^leaving that mistake there so you have something to do for the next 10 minutes

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

huuuuugin youuu! is easy cos ur a-awesome

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Interesting - so you liked Pause but not Rounds? I think the two are pretty similar, Rounds being the better of the two. (Also think Everything Ecstatic fits in with those two records too... and Rounds is still the best.) I've never heard Dialogue, the first record.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm not feeling this nearly as much as rounds or everything ecstatic. i like how he uses live drums and cuts up the vocals, but it's just so easy to imagine this music in commercials or in cheesy bars with way overpriced drinks.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Dialogue is VERY jazz.

This isn't 4/4 club bangers, just lots of steady, Field-y, krauty, house-y beats, as opposed to his usual tumbling jazzy drum fills.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't like everything ecstatic, but from ringer on it was obvious he was moving away from jazz-ey timbaland folktronica towards something sleeker and housier.

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i really like everything ecstatic btw

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

haven't time to read all this thread but I heard there's only songs in 4/4 on this rec? cus if so it's a no buy here

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

;)

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't care as long as it's mixed in Dobly.

Noodle Vague likes a blowsy alcoholic (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

indie friendly dubstep dribble

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

thomas dobly

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

okay that was unproductive but seriously...feel like the above is a growing genre, and it's BORING. (nb not heard this album, it might actually be good)

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

like if someone like four tet has decided it's okay to make a dance record then that's a sad indictment of dance 09

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link

it's not a dance record! it just has pervasive use of 4/4 beats

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

This is no more a dance record than anything else he's done.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah...it prob isn't even a dance record, which is a sad indictment of dance 09!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgot it's 2010

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

dance 2010

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

4/4 in 2010

gross

I think ur a probotector (cozen), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link

ud think by 2010 we would have left 4/4 behind us

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"Guys, if this record sucks then I'm not gonna like it."

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

the moronic thump of the 4/4 has achieved little in modern music

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

ok again...

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm confused now

I see what this is (Local Garda), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 22:57 (fourteen years ago) link

this sounds suspiciously like a dance record

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

btw the record i'm working on incl. a dance track with pervasive use of 5/4 beats

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link

1.25 beats

wmlynch, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm finding this a bit sickly on first listen, a bit like soft focus pictures of puppies or something. I like Four Tet more when he's bashing the prettiness about a bit.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

most of Four Tet's music I've heard is dance-friendly... not sure why this says anything about dance music in 2010 (i didn't hear anything dubby or 2-steppy on this at all, but maybe I'm not paying enough attention to the latest *step micro-genres or something).

his sounds like Four Tet. If I heard it in a grocery store, I would guess right away that it was Four Tet. dude has a really distinct approach to song writing... so what if he updates his beats or changes what types of vocal samples he chops up? maybe it reflects what he is listening to. still sounds like Four Tet, still hits the same spot for me that Pause did 9 years ago.

richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link

and I'm not even close to the world's biggest Four Tet fan or anything, either.

richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link

ok i just put this on and i like it a lot

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, I like it better than anything I've heard by him in a while. will buy.

richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

so easy to imagine this music in commercials or in cheesy bars with way overpriced drinks.

Can't imagine the cut-up vocals on the first track fitting into a commercial or cheesy bar.

It's interesting, I'll give it that. Not enough 4/4 beats, tho.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link

cassie sample = u had me @ hello tho

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Not even one of those faux-arty car ads where the Saab drives across an alien landscape while it rains oil?

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

lol! I'd rather play Mmmm mmmm mmmm mmmm over that sweet ad.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the things that are kinda dubsteppy abt this album have been there all along w/ him (shuffled grooves, cut up samples etc) but they just feel more explicit and the production is richer and bassier than b4 but also like i said sleeker and housier

plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link

nothing dubsteppy about this album in my opinion. it's only mentioned because Joy Orbison remixed Love Cry. if you're boycotting over straight kick drums, you're an idiot. this is a classic Four Tet album. the kicks are incidental on most tracks, really just a guide/scaffold for the cut-ups, bell melodies and atmosphere. i'm on my 4th time through and it's gotten better each time.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

also, richie aprile OTM 43mins ago.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i agree almost cept that the atmosphere is v. different and this feels abt a million times less pastoral than all his previous stuff

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 21 January 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

This is his best record.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 January 2010 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

But it's in 4/4!

EDB, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Downloaded one of those promo album mixes, will riffle through it when I get the chance. Don't doubt this album is a doozy, though.

EDB, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

better than Rounders? Hmmmmmmm. . . .

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 22 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought I'd love Four Tet based on Everything Is Alright back in the day, but listening to the Pause made me a bit nauseous about 2/3 through, it really sagged and ran out of ideas despite some nice acoustic drum sounds, sun-dappled textures etc. That and "She Moves She" put me off investigating subsequent albums. I DLed a nice mix early on, with Can, Hendrix, Byrds, Jay Z, BoC, etc. and a nice segue from Prince Ballad Of Dorothy Parker "it was Joni singin' 'Help me I think I'm fallin'" into... Joni singing "Help me I think I'm fallin'", of course.

First LP streaming track sounds like Hyph Mngo without the groove or uplift, a bit meh. And I thought we left bells/music boxes/xylophones behind with folktronica. Second track is nice. Fourth track sounds like a Bjork sample. Dreaded trip hop beats give way to house beats next. The four-to-the-floors make it all a lot more listenable than sagging boom-boom-bap-boredom. I'm not sure that it says anything whatsoever about "2009/2010 dance". It all sounds pretty pastoral to me still.

Four Tet is... nice. The Moth track with Burial is fenatastic though, a nice update on AFX's Xtal tape degraded dream house with added Burial atmospherics (robbed from video game st's probably), and could go on forever.

superflyguy, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

For what it's worth, I totally love the Tet but still don't regret having sold my copy of Pause.

EDB, Friday, 22 January 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

People need to get acquainted with Dialogue.

counter-clockwise (lukas), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

thread needs more nerd zings about 4/4

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

you started it

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

guess you didn't read the OG post. just think, you coulda been zinging 4 hours earlier!

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

r u still here?

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

wait in 4/4 time

Lamp, Friday, 22 January 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

granny i love when you act a fool then try to blame me somehow

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

cutty i love when you think i care you or your peeps think i act a fool

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

also love when you use the word blame in a illogical way.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img4.realsimple.com/images/daily-finds/food/0309/df-yellow-peep_300.jpg

lol'n @ u

Lamp, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

blame = thread needs more nerd zings about 4/4

^^^ you think it's my fault everyone is making fun of your dumb ass

but you know what, you'll thank us (me and my "peeps"), next time you are at a party and want to discuss your distaste for any music with 4/4 beats

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf kinda parties

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

parties where peeps talk about various beats

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/nerveinsider/2008/03/08-15/peeps.jpg

Lamp, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

BEAT

DISCONNECTION

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha what kind of dweebs feel the need to make fun of someone for misusing the term 4/4. esp AFTER i copped to it. can't wait to go to the kind of party you go to. ok dude, you're smarter than me, you're funnier than me, you're pretty much my superior in every way. now get the fuck over yourself.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

r u still here?

― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, January 22, 2010 7:43 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha what kind of dweebs feel the need to make fun of someone for misusing the term 4/4.

I've only been reading this thread silently and smiling, but just want to raise my hand for this.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, can't wait to hear this.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

just fyi dont want 2 disappoint u but - there are a lot of 4/4 beats on this album

Lamp, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i have been to parties where we discuss various beats :/

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

pervert.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

BEAT

CONFUSION

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Jordan, at those parties, when someone is talking fast and mistakenly says "4/4 beats" instead of "four on the floor beats", everyone mocks the guy endlessly and just can't get over it, right? And then said dude leaves to go to a party that isn't filled with dick-waving nerds. Bye.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

there are a lot of drummers at these parties so no one would say that

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:33 (fourteen years ago) link

my guess is that it would depend on if the person inserted himself into a conversation about how awesome a new album was by saying, "ugh 4/4 beats".

richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:35 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i'm a drummer.
totally taking all the beer with me.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

right cause god forbid someone have a contrary word to say about an album people like. they're clearly insulting you and everything you stand for, and no fate is too awful for them.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link

my point is that people might be more forgiving of someone using "4/4 beats" if they were being nice when they used it. don't mean to pile on or anything - just hoping to help clear that up for future reference.

richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

thanks. i'll be more judicious with my use of "ugh". Inflamatory rhetoric, that.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Will you lot fuck off out of my thread. I really really love this record and this pathetic pedantry is harshing my considerable buzz.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Serious question, Granny - did you listen to this yet? What did you think? I had a downer on "4/4"s too for a few years back when all I listened to was jungle/dnb but this album is pretty far from being Deadmau5 in its use of kick drums (nothing wrong with dm5, but he's just whomp-whomp-whomp-whomp on every track, which I sense is where your dislike lies?).

Bill A, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

how long is this album, it feels like it is over v. quick

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

47.12 according to the streaming version, I know what you mean though - I had it on at work the other day and it just zipped by.

Bill A, Friday, 22 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

similar vibe to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1l4pDXbkic

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 22 January 2010 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

gotta say, this makes great software testing music.

(must be the 4/4 beats)

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Friday, 22 January 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

...i didn't really like the cast in Rounders (besides Matt Damon), but I liked all of the folktronica elements that they tried to employ. Kieran has stated that this album was inspired by his DJ club nights; so it's no surprise to hear the four on four beats. There's no doubt that Kieran has talent, producing alot of his stuff with a very basic setup/pc and audiomulch. His real skill is in the assembly of his samples, which is still evident here/however the overall result feels less accomplished, perhaps because of the disappearance of the jazz inspired drum flourishes. I was hoping to find some of the zaniness of the Steve Reid stuff mixed with the usual sublime fout-tet melodic arrangements - this album at this stage in his career doesn't sound very inventive.

my four tet album/ep rankings:

1. Rounders
2. Pause
3. Everything Ecstatic
4. Remixes
5. Dialogue
6. There is Love in You
7. Ringer

tin cub, Sunday, 24 January 2010 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link

jazz inspired drum flourishes

i haven't listened to rounders in ages, but i think this is what made it so special.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 24 January 2010 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

ok dude, you're smarter than me, you're funnier than me, you're pretty much my superior in every way. now get the fuck over yourself.

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you forgot "faster"

mage pit laceration (gbx), Sunday, 24 January 2010 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

prolly has a better diet

plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 24 January 2010 11:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hey everyone for serious, a really fast and easy way to refer to four on the floor without looking silly is "4X4". Please note in yr diary granny.

Tim F, Sunday, 24 January 2010 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ARGH PITCHFORK REVIEW USES PHRASE "STEADY MIDTEMPO 4/4 KICK" ARGH DOESN'T HE KNOW???!!!

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link

it is in 4/4, this is true

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

That was the first time I read that he went to school with Burial. Would like to see that class picture.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 25 January 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, he went to the same school AS Burial; I doubt they were there at the same time (see also Hot Chip, The XX - all alumni of the same school).

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Burial was in the year above Hot Chip and all of Fridge were in the year above that. From a Hot Chip interview I did around the last album.

Joe: "Every couple of weeks on a Friday lunchtime I’d get people to perform different yhings. Sometimes it would be poetry or music. Kieran played a half-hour improvised guitar piece one week. Adem actually ran it the year before me. We used to go and see Fridge. I probably saw them eight or nine times. I guess that gave us a lot of udnerstanding of the routes that bands can take."
Alexis: "They were the first band of people we knew who’d got a record deal. They were straight out of sixth form. For a while all I thought of was we should make music together and try to get someone to release it, like what happened to Fridge."

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Looking at the transcript again, it seems that members of So Solid Crew, the Maccabees, Trencher and the Elysian Quartet were all there around the same time. Must be quite a music dept.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Muse's bassist was the year above porn star Layla Jade at my school (Bellamy and the drummer were the year above that); almost as good.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

That's quite a fucking school talent show.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 25 January 2010 15:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Frankly I'm surprised no one's made a Four/Four Tet joke at this point.

EDB, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't really heard that much by this guy (strange by my standards). Since when did he change from a early-thousands "folktronica" also ran to the most namechecked producer in the land?

dog latin, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Also ran? Didn't he basically invent it? The first time I heard the word was in connection with his stuff.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

really been enjoying going back to rounds & everything ecstatic this week

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I should clarify that every early-thousands "folktronica" geezer was an also-ran back then.

dog latin, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

the most namechecked producer in the land

just how is this the case? he's always had the same profile

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ he's always been highly respected and sold a decent number of records.

jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link

love this record more than any of his others btw.

jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

i feel like the thing he got out of the steve reid collab was learning how to do less

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

dog latin why don't you listen to his music first

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

guys I think you mean "Four on the Floor Tet"

26 Mixes Focaccia (Stevie D), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

two elephants and a cymbal

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

this shit sounds pretty controversial

you forgot what a hardcore blogger is (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link

its got a track that samples cassie

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Exasperation @ doglatin.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

but it's just so easy to imagine this music in commercials or in cheesy bars with way overpriced drinks.

Can we PLEASE put a moratorium on this lazy, overused, faux-class-based rhetorical jab? Of all the strawmen in the world that are just begging to be doused with gasoline and set alight...

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I must say that comment did annoy me but I let it fly cos I usually like Jordan.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i used to play jazz gigs at this one bar all the time, and they would always, always have some kind of tasteful, world-y electronic music on. i LIKE tasteful, world-y electronic music, but the whole vibe nearly ruined some of the good shit (cinematic orchestra, amon tobin, etc.) for me.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

and now it's sort of a personal yardstick for me, like "can i hear it being played at this bar, or does it have too much edge for that?"

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

you used to play gigs there

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

See, Cinematic Orchestra, to me, are exactly the kind of boring, played-in-the-arts-centre stuff you seem to be bemoaning - whereas Four Tet, and OH GOD THIS ALBUM WHICH I LOVE SO MUCH is what I take home with me clutched to my chest and play and play and play for myself.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

It initially struck me that Steely Dan made music for proto-yuppies who hung out in Woody Allen-ish Upper West Side bars with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers who spent their time going to wine- tastings and earnestly discussing the aesthetic merits of duck decoys as a decorative flourish.

― Alex in NYC, Sunday, June 2, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Steely Dan = Highly literate, xenophobic musos with unapologetic jazz leanings and studio know-how, making music designed for Manhattan divorcee bars and aesthetes in corduroy blazers.

― Alex in NYC, Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:00 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's still music for wine & cheese afficianados who wear patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, June 4, 2004 9:08 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Masturbatory coffee-table jazz-rock noodlery for people with patches on the elbows of their corduroy blazers hanging out in wine bars.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:44 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Steely Dan have always been awful, wine-bar, patches-on-the-elbows-of-your-corduroy-blazer CRAP.

― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, May 6, 2008 2:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

This isn't world-y electronic music; it's blissful end-of-the-night house, or end-of-the-breakwater ambient, or middle-of-the-city techno, or...

xpost, hahaha

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

you used to play gigs there

― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:17 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

gotta work. i still play there, just not as much.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

…it's rounds, not rounders, right?

CATBEAST!! (Z S), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

THANK YOU!

plaxico (I know, right?), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

end-of-the-breakwater ambient

Somehow I read that as "windbreaker ambient," which given the pouring rain here on Kauai today, and the way it fits nicely with the new Four Tet, seems like a great description. I'm gonna start using it, I think...

pshrbrn, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm happy with that.

brain thoughts (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

definitely a genre that needed to be created

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

he's definitely benefited from the reid collabs and for my money has just got better and better - am loving the sort of housier edge some of the new stuff has ...

also - while am thinking of his successes this past decade that thom yorke mix he did from a couple of year ago needs some love an all ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNKFoHaROGA

out comes stanley, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

My favorite remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsf_BFhv3U

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Takes a dreadful, anonymous-girl-with-piano tune and turns it into something bordering on transcendent.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Bit harsh on the original (especially if you've seen the Six Feet Under finale) but yes, that's a ravishing remix.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

re: Steely Dan

Alex in NYC is my hero

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

really love "windbreaker ambient," someone get on that

his power told him (about the fish) (gbx), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

(especially if you've seen the Six Feet Under finale)

One of my favorite shows, yes, and I'll admit it's put to great use in the final scene.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 28 January 2010 02:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Is the loop in "Sing" really the Super Mario Bros theme? Sure sounds like it could be.

mh, Saturday, 30 January 2010 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

So I'm seeing Four Tet and Nathan Fake tonight in Austin -- really can't wait. Somehow I've never managed to see Kieran live, despite having been a fan since Pause, he's only been through Texas a couple of times that I can recall, and I've always managed to miss him. Heard great things about his live show these days and I'm beyond excited...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Saturday, 20 February 2010 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I gotta say take side A (Angel Echoes --> Love Cry) and side D (Plastic People --> She Just Likes to Fight) put them as side A and B on one record and you've got a phenomenal EP for my tastes. The rest hasn't stuck but those four are great.

matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

See, those are probably my least-favoured tracks. Circling and This Unfolds are the ones for me.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

This has become my default reading-while-on-the-train album but at the same time I wish it wanted to something more than just sit there being pretty.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Overall Rounds is way better than this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Nope. I'm a *huge* Rounds fan but this new one is his best album.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

it's nice but i'm sticking to rounds & everything ecstatic for what i want out of four tet

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh wait, I like this. Have only just realised that this is what keeps turning up on mixtapes and going "ooh I like this, what is it?" I should really pay attention more.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I can understand that Jordan. The funny thing is I decided, after a few years of being kind of interested and trying to listen to understand what was so special about him, that I really didn't want or need Four Tet much at all. I owned Rounds and Everything Ecstatic and ended up selling them back. Which is why I have been so pleasantly surprised by my genuine, effortless enjoyment of the tracks above.

matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

I admired Pause and Rounds, without ever really loving them. This new one is great, though - most unexpected.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 25 February 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Honestly I think Tom Ashbrook ruined Four Tet for me. I've heard and mildly liked a few tracks from the new one but I guess I just prefer electronic music with a more synthetic sound palette, or less rhythmic squareness, or both.

Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i only really wanna hear side A so far, but i really wanna hear it a lot

plax (ico), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:20 (fourteen years ago) link

What did Tom Ashbrook do Paul?

matt2, Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Used "Everything is Alright" as the theme music for one of NPR's most tedious talk shows.

Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

but I guess I just prefer electronic music with a more synthetic sound palette, or less rhythmic squareness, or both.

but four tet is one of the least square, least quantized dudes out there. that's my favorite trick of his, all those free jazz drum samples that aren't quite in time but totally work.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Thursday, 25 February 2010 18:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Up until the last EP and this album; hence your 'meh'ness about it, I guess.

I love Pause, and Rounds, and like I like Dialogue (his jazziest! and no one mentions it!) and Everything Ecstatic too, but the Ringer EP took him in a direction I never expected and was very, very pleased with, and the new album melds that with his older work perfectly.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Dialogue (his jazziest! and no one mentions it!)

It's way out of print and I can't find the damn thing............................!

Nick, have you heard the Steve Reid collabs? What's the verdict?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't, actually; I dunno why. I saw him live in about 2004 and didn't enjoy it, and then didn't get EE initially, and kind of went off him - my affections fully transferred to Caribou for a few years, I guess, and I just kind of let the Steve Reid things drift past. May pick them up over the next few months though.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

anybody want to buy my copy of dialogue on cd? $100 ;)

shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally reading what was said upthread --

I think I would have been annoyed at one point that music I like may be played at trendy overpriced cocktail bars, but at this point in the game, I like to pretend I could own an overpriced cocktail bar someday and play whatever I want, and it'd be Four Tet anyway.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Cosign.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

x-post to nick

Caribou! Is it just me or did he lose some of the following post name-change? I kind of lumped him in the same category as Four Tet and I'm not sure I was wrong, but I haven't heard them in the same context lately.

mh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

2001/03/05 they had similarities; I still mentally file them together. They're mates, and DJ at each other's gigs all the time. Caribou's new album also meant to be fancier.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

DANCIER.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw Kieran/Four Tet play as part of the Caribou Vibration Ensemble (along with Marshall Allen, Koushik and a host of others I'm conveniently forgetting) at the ATP NY festival last year.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

but four tet is one of the least square, least quantized dudes out there. that's my favorite trick of his, all those free jazz drum samples that aren't quite in time but totally work.
they don't totally work for me. I get the programmed/performed time distinction, but it still ends up striking me as plodding somehow, the same feeling I get from most trip-hop. I'm not a big fan of the jazz style into which he crosses over, either, and maybe that's part of the problem for me as I try to appreciate it

Yaz Hands (Paul in Santa Cruz), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Also spoke to Kieran in the hall for a few minutes, later that afternoon. We discussed mainly the festival overall, the experience and what we'd enjoyed so far. He had loved the Boredoms 9 drummer thing earlier in the day. Can't blame him, it was excellent!

xpost to self

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I gotta say take side A (Angel Echoes --> Love Cry) and side D (Plastic People --> She Just Likes to Fight) put them as side A and B on one record and you've got a phenomenal EP for my tastes. The rest hasn't stuck but those four are great.

This feels so weird to me because, as of right now, "Sing" and "This Unfolds" are like two of my very favorites!

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw Kieran/Four Tet play as part of the Caribou Vibration Ensemble (along with Marshall Allen, Koushik and a host of others I'm conveniently forgetting) at the ATP NY festival last year.

getting there & finding that they were just gonna be jamming on caribou's songs made it feel kind of 'summit of wasted talent' though, iirc

Norman Mail (schlump), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Yup, I emailed the ATP folks at the time begging for a separate Four Tet set and/or DJ gig, to no effect.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

who does that

shite new answers (cutty), Friday, 26 February 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link

It wasn't as pathetic as I realize I've made it sound, more like an "Any plans to do Y in addition to X?" type email.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 26 February 2010 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link

im a bit lukewarm to the man but saw him in croatia during the summer at electric elephant and it was wonderful. plus it was dark, hot and a serious electrical storm was on the horizon behind in the harbour. might give the album a shot. the steve reid stuff is great, fantastic live

straightola, Friday, 26 February 2010 00:31 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Floating points remix of Sing is pretty sweet btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsB4aapKZZc

plax (ico), Friday, 19 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

apparently there's a mosca remix on its way too

plax (ico), Friday, 19 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ wow

shite new answers (cutty), Friday, 19 March 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

that sounds like it is from a mix or live set. do want. Floating Points seems like he can do no wrong.

richie aprile (rockapads), Friday, 19 March 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, I'm not really feeling this album.

dog latin, Friday, 19 March 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

apology accepted

plax (ico), Friday, 19 March 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

may have already been mentioned but some nice links from his website (live set, essential mix).

djh, Friday, 19 March 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

really feeling <a href="http://www.myspace.com/tylertadlockspirituals";>Spirituals</a>, it's very fourt tet-y (in the same vein as the new album but maybe more compelling?)

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean Spirituals

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i see what you mean

plax (ico), Wednesday, 23 June 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

this is really good

plax (ico), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:07 (thirteen years ago) link

i couldn't dance to any of this the way you could to say love cry

plax (ico), Thursday, 24 June 2010 12:09 (thirteen years ago) link

true. it sounds so nice though (and it's obviously produced by a drummer imo...love the rhythmic device on the first track, and the mahavishnu orchestra sample on the second track).

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i love the first song, which has a burial-influence to it.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 24 June 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link

love the remixes on their myspace too

plax (ico), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i first stumbled across that caribou remix on youtube and was like 'whoa, this is way better than the original'. better than the ones that won the remix contest too.

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 24 June 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Ewan Pearson tweeter something about a new Four Tet single in Soul Jazz but I've seen nothing; any ideas?

Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 25 June 2010 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Here you go: http://soundcloud.com/soul-jazz-records/four-tet-nothing-to-see-8-49

matt2, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

is there a rolling electronic type of thread that would encompass stuff like spirituals?

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

there are like 5 groups with that sound, no need for a rolling thread

cutty, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

nah, not that specific, just for stuff that doesn't fall into the other rolling threads (dubstep, house, "funky"?)

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Friday, 25 June 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

indietronica rolling thread

cutty, Friday, 25 June 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

from that Magic For Your Ears website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LswfoaBeZo

Fan made video for the track Circling by Four Tet. Contains stunning footage of Africa from the Documentry Great Rift – Africa’s Wild Heart.

Bee OK, Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:38 (thirteen years ago) link

NICE!

For some reason I started thinking about my year-end list today... this'll probably come in at the 2-4 range, it's a really great album.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 25 September 2010 01:58 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

What's the bangin'/pretty ratio for the Fabric mix?

djh, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

i'd have to listen again but I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

I guess that begs the question "What were you anticipating disliking?"

djh, Thursday, 13 October 2011 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

I had recently listened to his set from PS1 (which I hated) and suspected he couldn't mix and wouldn't have an ear for how a dj set should be paced/sequenced. It's several different parts spliced together but it works.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 13 October 2011 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

This album (TILIY) is still utterly lovely. Definitely my favourite thing he's done.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 23 October 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

People need to get acquainted with Dialogue.

― counter-clockwise (lukas), Friday, 22 January 2010 19:10 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

bingo dabber acid, Monday, 24 October 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/four-tet-there-is-love-in-you-round-32-nicks-choice/

Still adore this. All-time favourite status now, I think.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link

Can't believe this album is 2 years old now!

Took this revive as a reminder to buy Ringer which is basically so wibbling that I feel shame-faced for not having got it before.

There's another thread about the new old compendium album, isn't there? Could have sworn I saw discussion about it here.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

2 and a half years old. Mental.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:07 (eleven years ago) link

What's the other album that came out roughly the same time that felt like an analogue to this? I'm racking my brains...

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:19 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, Caribou... that's it. Couldn't get into either of those at the time, mind - a bit too mid-range/not enough bass IIRC - but I'm on a "reassess stuff from the last couple of years" tip at the moment, so I might go back to them.

Nick - are you familiar with Minotaur Shock?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:23 (eleven years ago) link

Haven't spent anywhere near as much time with that Caribou record, TBH.

I have had weirdly opposite reactions to those two artists. Like, whenever I hear Caribou at first thought, I immediately think "this is fantastic, must hear more" but I can't quite seem to make it through a whole album. Like it's a bubblegum high that wears off really quick. But with Four Tet, my immediate response has usually been "hmm, not sure about this. Distinct whiff of jazz" but then I get sucked in and more and more engrossed as the album goes on, and a couple of months later I don't want to listen to anything else.

Listening to Minotaur Shock and have to say it's not impressing me. Like this is everything about Four Tet that turns me off him (the toybox techno, the twee affectations) blown up large without the stuff I love about him.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

I talk to Minotaur Shock on Twitter a lot more than I listen to his actual music, though I do have an album by him. Are you thinking he's an analogue to these guys?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:46 (eleven years ago) link

I managed 1 full song and 2 half ones, and it was my impression that it was that kind of toybox tweelectronica but without the shimmering sense of psychedelic "we're going to another place now" that makes Four Tet so special. Like he took the instrumentation but not the sound palette.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:49 (eleven years ago) link

xpost Dunno... The album I have by him would sit nicely next to those others, although it's a couple more years older.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:50 (eleven years ago) link

"toybox tweelectronica" is kind of the reason I couldn't truly open up to the Caribou or Fourtet records TBH.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:51 (eleven years ago) link

I don't really get much twee or toybox about anything Caribou's done since 2005.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:53 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes people use toybox tweelectronica as a starting place to open this magical world of wonder where the whole world dissolves and you end up in this kind of Alice in Wonderland musical soundscape reminiscent of the deep weirdness of childhood non-logic. And other people use toybox tweelectronica as the end point, where you end up looking like a grown person sitting making music with wooden blocks and xylophones.

I'm probably stretching this analogue too far, but it's just odd that some of my absolute favourite music exists in this sphere of wibble, but also some of the stuff I absolutely hate the worst.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:55 (eleven years ago) link

Have you heard Jamelia from Swim, WCC? The closing track.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 12 July 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link

Caribou in limited doses is fine! Like, if you play me a Caribou track in isolation, I will be all "that is some damn fine wibble." I just lose patience with it in larger doses.

The most Four-Tet wibbletastic like thing I've heard recently was Ardour by Teebs. There's a song called Wind Loop by him that, every time it comes on a playlist, I think it is Four Tet and have to check what album it is.

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:00 (eleven years ago) link

I think I much prefer the Caribou album he did before Swim IIRC. The Minotaur Shock album I have is called Maritime, and it's pretty okay (especially considering the dearth of decent IDMish music coming out in 2005).

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:06 (eleven years ago) link

What do you think of the new Four Tet stuff? Love Jupiters, less keen on 128 Harps. Not heard the other sides.

This Tinariwen remix is great, too.

http://soundcloud.com/four-tet/tinariwen-tenere-taqqim-tossam

Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:30 (eleven years ago) link

I swear we talked about these on another Four Tet thread! Or I am going senile in mine old age.

Do we need a new thread to anticipate Pink or should we just carry on on this one?

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

If you find that thread, post a link here.

Citizen Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, I'm wrong, it was a different remix we were discussing, but I was going on about how psychedelic space jellyfish are an ideal incentive to make me like 128 Harps:

new four tet

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link

This is one of those Teebs tracks that brings the Four Tet style wibble for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PLXW9gTgCo

(I'm not saying it sounds like Four Tet, just that it has the sound palette and atmosphere that I find so enchanting about Four Tet. Without the toybox tweelectronica aspects. It probably won't have enough bass for anyone on this thread, though.)

Queue de Cheval (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Thursday, 12 July 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

This is such a lovely album.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Monday, 4 May 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link


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