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Listened to the new Belbury Poly Album 'From an Ancient Star' over the weekend about ten times and to my surprise theres no Ghost box thread. I slept on the label a bit as they seemed a bit too engaged with nostalgia and pastiche but there seems to be a real downcast joy to what I've heard. 'Open university italo' was the term getting thrown about when partying to this on saturday morning. Just picked up the advisory council record as well and looking forward to diving into the catologue over coming weeks

straightola, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Huh, I was sure there was a thread on this as well. It is all very hauntology/memoradelia, which I guess irks some people (too studied, pseudo-intellectual?) but I love that stuff. And definitely a down-cast joy - the first track I *really* loved from any of the records was the title track from Hey, Let Loose Your Love by the Focus Group, and nothing on the label has surpassed that for me as such a simple sublime pop moment.

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose as a huge fan of Radiophonic Workshop/Raymond Scott I'm going to be the exact target demographic, aren't I? Ah well, preaching to the converted they may be, but I still say it's brilliant stuff.

emil.y, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Love it as well. Last year's Advisory Circle album is so great, and the new Bellbury Pole is awesome as well. I must check out that Focus Group album still.

Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

thats exactly why i left it so long to listen to any of it, all the pseudo intellectual simon reynolds baiting stuff i read about the label really got on my wick. I read a review the other day (possibly petridish) harping on about how the label had hit upon some gesamkunstwerk because they have uniform packaging, make videos and the music featured has a similar ethos. Isnt every label ran by a graphic designer done in this way? sounds like standard degree show stuff. But now ive put that aside the music is really enjoyable, the Belbury album is worth it just for the disco tracks

straightola, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link

downloaded the advisory circle because of its appearance in wire's rewind. Love the album. Just ordered it together with the belbury poly album after hearing its titletrack and the awesome Hidden Door.

willem, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

sad, neglected thread

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanx for reminding me i need to listen to this shit some more.

Stillborn birth of a display name (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 October 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Friend of mine was just talking about this label the other day...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Not technically a Ghost Box release, but has anyone on here listened to Broadcast's collaboration with The Focus Group? It is available for download only right now through iTuens and whatnot.

I like it, although I wish it were a little more Broadcast and a little less Focus Group. I'm hoping to catch Broadcast at the Fun Fun Fun festival here in Austin next month - should be pretty great!

Moodles, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

The Broadcast/Focus Group EP is good, and agree on the Focus Group part--probably my least favorite of the ghost box folkx but hard for me to complain as I'm pretty hard for Julian House's design/overall aesthetic which is at least 50% of Ghost Box's appeal (I think).

Want to hear the "Roj" record they just put out but not sure what I think based on samples. After freaking out about all of this stuff and then coming back a little saner a mo. or so later, I think the advisory circle records hold up the best

Bangelo, Friday, 9 October 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Took me forever to get into Ghost Box even though they push so many of my geek buttons- the whole "hauntology" discussion just turned me way the fuck off, had me thinking this was music made more to be discussed than listened to, etc. Then I took a gamble on the iTunes $5 comp album and wahey, it's really fucking great. Can't wait to catch Broadcast in Philly in about a week.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Friday, 9 October 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't let k punk and his ilk put you off, this is some really great stuff.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:26 (fourteen years ago) link

What's the name of that comp?

I always forget about this label for some reason

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 10 October 2009 00:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Ritual and Education, it's the best $5 you'll ever spend. On music. This year. From Ghost Box.

More Butty In Your Pants (Telephone thing), Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Has anyone heard the Roj album in full? I don't like listening to samples, but I've yet to purchase it. Is it comparable to the other GB artists?

young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I like this label. Everything I've heard from it sounds like it was made by a cult obsessed with Love American Style, daytime TV shows from the 70s -- 80s, and oddball field recordings.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 10 October 2009 12:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I wish it were a little more Broadcast and a little less Focus Group

Hmm, in general I thought they had a good balance, but when I did find it skewed, I thought it was the other way round - I love both groups, but the vocal style is so distinctive it often overpowers the music.

emil.y, Saturday, 10 October 2009 12:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Ritual and Education is a great comp. And that Roj disc just appeared on eMusic (something I was prompted to discover because of this thread; thank you, ILM).

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 10 October 2009 12:31 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

I like love this label.

better

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 15 February 2010 02:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Roj album is good - well up to par if you like Ghost Box artists in general.

Reissue/revision of OOP early record by The Advisory Circle coming soon!

Jeff W, Monday, 15 February 2010 13:06 (fourteen years ago) link

just got the belbury poly disc (from an ancient star). trippy!

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 15 February 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://jimjupp.blogspot.com/2010/05/ghost-box-study-series-singles.html

Just ordered the first two editions from the Ghost Box Study Series - a 7 inch singles club, it seems. Lovely.

kraudive, Monday, 14 June 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

I keep looking at these in the local record shop, thinking "a tenner for a seven inch???".

The New Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 6 January 2011 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link

They're £4.95 each or £7.95 for two on the website. Which still sounds fairly expensive to me, but you don't often see new 7"s going for less than a fiver these days. Sigh.

emil.y, Thursday, 6 January 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

great label - they deserve every penny they charge

jumpskins, Thursday, 6 January 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Anyone on here heard the Moon Wiring Club stuff? I'm wondering if this is something I need to get.

Moodles, Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, A Spare Tabby... is really good. Very much of the genre, and it maybe goes on a tad long, but the first half totally blew me away.

emil.y, Thursday, 6 January 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

yep i just got the spare tabby today and love it immediately . plus all the graphic design is sublime. i assume he does all that website illustration stuff himself?? if so he is a man of parts.

cw, Friday, 21 January 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

those moon wiring club sleeves, all 4 of them, need to go on the album art thread.

just bought the broadcast addition to the Study Series. and don't like it (not a surprise, didn't really like the lp). think the others singles are better. (the digital downloads are cheap at boomkat).

koogs, Saturday, 22 January 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Did you get the vinyl or cd version of the Moon Wiring Club album? They are doing a great of saying you should really get both.

The New Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 17:49 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Numbers 5 & 6 in the 7" Study Series now available (Johnny Trunk and Hintermass), along with vinyl reissues of Belbury Poly's The Willows and The Focus Group's Sketches and Spells...

http://ghostbox.greedbag.com/

Barnaby, Hardly, Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

and they are lovely. Spent the last hour listening to 1-6 and they're just great. As the sky was dimming the music sounded beautiful. The design of the covers / sexy heavy vinyl is ace also!

kraudive, Sunday, 17 April 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

there was a boomkat / 14tracks compilation of this stuff recently. (14 tracks chosend by boomkat staff(?) for £6.86)

http://14tracks.com/selections/152-listening_at_home_with_ghost_box

koogs, Monday, 18 April 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The samples of the new Advisory Circle that are up on the ghost box site are really beautiful. I agree with everyone above saying that Other Channels is the best thing on the label, though emily is right about Hey, let loose (and about Spare Tabby being overlong).

rob, Friday, 10 June 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

nah, roj is the best

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah? I never actually listened to that one--will correct that now.

rob, Friday, 10 June 2011 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

any verdicts on the recent advisory circle & moon wiring club rekkids?

cw, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

AC = still dope

MWC = still twee (i didn't like it, ymmv)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

still think they peaked with "roj"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link

Advisory Circle record is very very good. Moon Wiring Club is good but I think works better with visuals etc. Was very good live w/video and his source materials are often drawn out of old tv/film so seeing it in that format makes more sense.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Advisory Circle - Learning Owl Reappears

Man, I want to write a horror film about owls just so that I can peg that onto the start of it.

kraudive, Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Have been playing a lot of Ghost Box recently.

An odd one in that I can play the same tracks at different times and have quite extreme reactions around liking them/disliking them. The Advisory Circle sounded lovely tonight, driving through the Oxfordshire countryside. Ritual & Education is very good though I feel mildly tempted to re-edit it into my own "Best of Ghost Box".

djh, Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

Been listening to the Advisory Circle album a lot recently, after not paying attention for a while. "Wheel of the Year" is my jam.

questino (seandalai), Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

great album. I should have seen it coming based on some of his mixes, but I was still surprised at how much he broadened his palette beyond the radiophonic synth stuff while still sounding totally like himself. those albums he put out under his own name were quite good as well.

rob, Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Belbury Poly sounded right while putting clothes away this morning.

djh, Sunday, 15 January 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Love this stuff. Is there enough to do a lil' Ghost Box POV/POX??

(Uptown Baby) (admrl), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe once I've heard the latest from Belbury Poly. Speaking of which:
http://jimjupp.blogspot.com/2012/02/belbury-tales-and-radio-belbury.html

Jeff W, Friday, 24 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

Excellent new Jon Brooks (Advisory Circle) album as Shapwick...

www.claypipemusic.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/shapwick.html

Sadly sold out in a few hours (only 110 copies were made) but apparently a second edition on vinyl is forthcoming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FdfafGC-bBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9KWTYhAs74&feature=related

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 4 June 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

Let me try that first Youtube link again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdfafGC-bBw

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 4 June 2012 09:43 (eleven years ago) link

(Such a small release ... you had to basically be at a computer at the exact moment that its availability was announced.)

djh, Monday, 4 June 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

It's not even on Ghost Box but I don't really know where else to put this - the Pye Corner Audio "Black Mill Tapes 1 & 2" is really lovely. Kinda Ghost Box meets Wolfgang Voigt, I guess. I'm really enjoying it a lot. Very, very beautiful.

kraudive, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

Really loving this new Pye Corner Audio track "The Black Mill Video Tape." Sounds like 1981 Simple Minds, and of compliments there is none higher. Website http://pyecorneraudio.wordpress.com/

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 08:41 (eleven years ago) link

they have a new one out on ghost box in a coupla weeks.

cw, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

I already preordered it. Loving Pye Corner Audio. Has the hauntology/ghost box aesthetic but more minimal synth/Italian/new wave vibe. New viva radio playlist at 1 pm with some of that stuff. Http://www.vivaradio.com/pyjamarama

dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

god that jon brooks shapwick record, its lovely. 110 copies indeed.

cw, Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

There are 10 copies of his latest ... http://cafekaput.blogspot.co.uk/

djh, Sunday, 11 November 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I love Ghost Box stuff so much, but reading 'Retromania' I kind of feel like its hypocritical. Esp since I have spent five years shitting on American chillwave "huh huh my band is called Agent Cale Dooper and our tape is called EVERY NIGHT IS SNICK" and its penchant for nostalgia as an ends-to-a-means...

I actually had NO IDEA all the reference points to 60/70s British culture lurking deep in the music. Especially since I grew up in Florida and British TV outside of like Mr. Bean is a complete nonentity in my life. The touchstones and period-evoking synth sounds and class-evoking accents that Simon details in these songs might as well be some comp from Syrian radio hits put out by Sublime Frquencies. I have LITTLE TO ZERO nostalgia when I hear this stuff, it all sounds alien to me! That;s why I like it.

Love, an American

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 14:12 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg6IVUvVsAs

koogs, Thursday, 10 January 2013 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

lol, Whiney, that's a pretty huge thing to miss, even from an Auslander.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I obviously knew it harkened back to library music and horror scores and BBC Radiophonic, but like, not to the specific degrees or actual references that Reynolds points out

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah but the reference points in American chillwave are usually totally obvious and comfort-blanket ephemera that lazily pander to their intended audience. But the Ghost Box stuff I've heard evokes a time shortly before much of its audience was born. Like I remember the residue of this sort of stuff swilling around when I was a child but it was already from a slightly strange previous era, same goes for all those 60s psych record that are full of this English folk influence that's largely disappeared from British rock music since. Looking back at pre-punk, pre-Thatcher Britain is like looking into a different world, one that (at a guess) most of Ghost Box's audience weren't around for, which is what makes it so unsettling.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Yours, someone who was born in the year Thatcher came to power.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:31 (eleven years ago) link

A lot of the references Ghost Box evoke were still around in the 1980's when I was growing up. I get the impression Ghost Box fans are now in the 35 and above age bracket (I may be wrong here obv). Kids in the 80's in the UK still got the TV public service announcements (Charlie and the like ran for years) and still had access to John Wyndham, who for me hasn't been mentioned enough in relation to GB.

Adore this stuff beyond reason btw. It feels like home.

kraudive, Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i mean obviously my first reaction to Ghost Box was "wow this is def nostalgia-based but with an attention to detail" instead of like I SMEARED SALUTE YOUR SHORTS WITH KAOSS PAD"

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

were people really talking about this and hauntology in 2007 or did simon just invent that. i can't find any evidence that this was a talking point besides some, like, quietus articles

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol dude

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

this was pretty much all british crit theory informed music blogs talked about in 2007

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

i think k-punk alone wrote more about that one belbury poly ep than henry darger did about little girls

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, I don't read "brit crit theory informed music blogs" for at least three reasons

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

all of this stuff was made by and for those ppl and was more notable for its aetiology as an early example of ~ critical blogger discourse ~ feeding back into actual music than for any intrinsic value

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

the lols come from most of these people being disheartened former grime fans

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

2007 def when I started hearing the term.

K-punk was often ridic, but his pieces on The Fall were fantastic.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

You're skewing a lot there in order to reach a lack of intrinsic value, dude.

Also, as a Critical Theory graduate, can I just get a pre-emptive 'fuck you' out of the way? Cheers.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link

this music isn't terrible at all, it's nice, well made, more or less worthless

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:00 (eleven years ago) link

"More or less" is doing a lot of work there. What music do you consider not worthless? Is there any worth in anything? Probably not.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link

did this have any impact in america at all? i didn't hear about it until The Wire put Advisory Circle at like No. 45 on a year end list in 2011. I bought and enjoyed Advisory Circle, Pye Corner Audio and Belbury Poly and was spinning the black circle like "la la la enjoying my cool little british label that no one seems to talk about" and then I open up a Simon Reynolds book with a Library of Congress call number and there's like 40 fuckin pages on how this is Britains version of hip-hop and I felt like I did when I learned Lonestar Steakhouse was a chain restaurant

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

the blackout crew, certain of the late beethoven quartets

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

It doesn't have any impact in Britain either really.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

nb you will have noticed that crit theory wasnt dismissed, merely its lesser amateur practitioners

jon yeah athough in another context entirely i was going to say too much is written about the fall, the k-punk fall/lovecraft stuff is certainly towards the better end of this spectrum

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

how this is Britains version of hip-hop

Ahahahahahahahahaaaaa

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

I thought k-punk's piece on hauntological musics was quite good, in all seriousness.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

I mean there are however many pages in Retromania about it doesn't really surprise me because Reynolds and his mates have been talking about it amongst themselves for years but its impact on or relevance to much of the rest of British music is virtually zero. It's a fairly isolated scene producing some excellent music but that's about it. The critical discourse around this label is largely awful and put me off actually listening to it for several years.

Matt DC, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:13 (eleven years ago) link

xpost nilmar totally, they are v over-talked-abt. that was one of the few Fall pcs that felt like it would rattle about my brain for the rest of my listening career.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

you know who needs to get and love ghost box is film score nerds. I don't know if they know about it or not.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I think the Julian House/Broadcast/Berberian Sound Studio crossover will make that the case soon if it isn't already.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but emily that might nearly have been written for you

ghost box probably had some influence on demdike stare and that strain of olde englishes weird techno

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but emily that might nearly have been written for you

So, wait, does that mean you're writing me off as a lolcrit blog dilettante? Seeing as you indicate with your other posts that you think such things are laughable... Bah humbug.

emil.y, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

while we're speaking about k-punk et al, I noticed there's a new cheap ebook of collected and augmented woebot pieces. Kind of tempted, I remember enjoying him on average more than kp.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

<q> The critical discourse around this label is largely awful and put me off actually listening to it for several years.</q>

As someone whose been listening to this stuff for a year without seeing any critical discourse its like "HOLMES YOU DID NOT KNOW IT WAS A CAN OF DOG FOOD"

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think the hip hop thing is such a stretch. A year ago I had the idea of writing a blog post discussing Stereolab and Broadcast's sonic references/appropriation/thievery in the context of hip hop. Makes total sense.

I like most of this stuff, though only had the slightest idea of the aesthetic, being american and whatnot. But there are hazy memories of the 70s/early 80s that I have that aren't that different. Or maybe I just watched a lot of Dr. Who and The Prisoner while growing up.

But musically, it all sounds awesome to me, it just doesn't stick with me that much. Some of it is more musique concrete, some is more library music...Pye Corner Audio is the one that sticks with me because he works it in a lo-fi italo-disco/proto-house way.

And Broadcast is my favorite band of their era, no matter what they were ripping off at any given time.

dan selzer, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link

Whiney I know you're partly playing it up for LOLs but this isn't actually going to ruin this stuff for you is it?

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think some of my fairly mild scorn for these dudes itt was precipitated by seeing that woebot has repackaged his defunct blog into an ebook

i don't think it's even chutzpah so much as an english arts and crafty enamourment for careful artisanal labour, rather like the dude who carves spoons all day in hackney he wants to get paid in full (if only retroactively)

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, I just like reading things on a dedicated reader more than I like reading them on blogs where the rest of infinity is constantly beckoning me to click away.

~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he just wants to get paid?

dan selzer, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

yeah but he is a shitty writer and doesn't deserve to

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

ouch. regardless, not that big a deal that someone, anywhere, should publish an ebook. it's convenient. he's not going to retire from it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link

if he needs to pay the rent then i might feel obliged to send him twenty quid for introducing me to some fine music when i was like 19, but reading that interview of him on (iirc) the quietus i was reminded of his precious cultural dirigism and those tendentious thinkpieces about musical history

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

the troubled ghosts of former ilxor NRQ haunts my posts itt like the fragments of the incredible string band limning their way throughout the work of skepta

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Thursday, 10 January 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link

Whiney I know you're partly playing it up for LOLs but this isn't actually going to ruin this stuff for you is it?

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:26 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah, I still love this stuff

lol cassidy fan club (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 11 January 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

reverse is also true, btw - ie there are plenty of uk telly genre-nerds who consume Children of the Stones and The Owl Service for breakfast, know every episode of Kinvig off by heart, but who wldn't touch the Ghost Box stuff w/ a fifty foot maypole

also think Electric Eden by Rob Young was a more important bk, in the UK at least, for popularising this idea of olde weird britain and a wider idea of what constitutes trad/folk music than the Simon Reynolds volume

Ward Fowler, Friday, 11 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link

Woebot's 70s ebook was a lot of fun. Wish it were longer.

brimstead, Friday, 11 January 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link

reverse is also true, btw - ie there are plenty of uk telly genre-nerds who consume Children of the Stones and The Owl Service for breakfast, know every episode of Kinvig off by heart, but who wldn't touch the Ghost Box stuff w/ a fifty foot maypole

This. I tried a couple and even though they should be right up my street I just couldn't get into them at all. (For reference, they were Seance at Hob's Lane, We Are All Pan's People and The Owl's Map - feel free to point out they're unrepresentative and/or rubbish and I'm missing out.)

Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Friday, 11 January 2013 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

I really like the first Belbury Poly album, The Willows. Also check out the Broadcast/Focus Group collab.

Moodles, Friday, 11 January 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

so, thoughts on the new focus group lp anyone?

cw, Sunday, 12 May 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link

On very first listen this morning I liked it very much. I went straight onto the GB site and bought the vinyl. I like the sound of it a lot; kinda medieval stuff going on. Reminds me a little of Matmos's The Civil War. Intriguing.

kraudive, Sunday, 12 May 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/cafekaput/applied-music-vol-1-science

djh, Sunday, 12 May 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

The new Soundcarriers album is out today on Ghost Box. Downloaded it (purchased), but waiting for the vinyl to arrive. Love that band, so I have high hopes.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

the "alternative" version of the release on GPS last year sounds tremendous so i'm v much looking forward to hearing this

stiff alboner (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:16 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

The Soundcarriers record is awesome.

And this will also be awesome:

http://cafekaput.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/ghost-box-other-voices-01-brooks-ohagan.html

Back in the mists of time (we're talking probably 14 years ago) I 'creatively re-appropriated' a snippet of a High Llamas song into one of my own tunes. Wanting to do the honourable thing, I contacted Sean O'Hagan and played him what I'd done. I remember him being quite pleased about the whole thing and we stayed in touch, often talking about making a record together. Of course, these things always take time.

Fast-forward to now and here we are, kicking off a new series of singles on Ghost Box. It's available to pre-order now, at the Ghost Box shop.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 11 July 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link

always interested when Sean O'Hagan is involved in a music project

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Friday, 11 July 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link

The clip could easily just be a new High Llamas song.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 11 July 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

How's the new Advisory Circle?

djh, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link

Very good, more of the usual but a bit more sinister and space-y

Gouty_Ted, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

i heard several reports to the effect jon brook's 52 is his best so far. hoping this one will make for a spooky christmas.

really liked the pye corner black mill 3-4 from earlier in the year.

cw, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

Brooks' Shapwick and 52 are both terrific. Great to see the former once again available, now as a digital download on Bandcamp.

doug watson, Wednesday, 10 December 2014 01:24 (nine years ago) link

Ridiculous question but what would be a good "Ghost Box-y" present that wasn't actually a Ghost Box product?

djh, Monday, 15 December 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

^try something by Concretism:

https://soundcloud.com/concretism (some tracks streaming here are on his LP, 'Town Planning')

http://concretism.bandcamp.com (older stuff)

Jeff W, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

Artemiev's score for Solaris might be worth a listen. It was reissued this year. Not a million miles away.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 15 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

Thanks both.

I was thinking of something non-musical - a book, a picture or something - to go with an already bought Ghost Box CD, as a vaguely themed present.

djh, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:12 (nine years ago) link

Blu-Ray of Berbarian Sound?

DVD of Look Around You?

dan selzer, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link

Oh, if a book, then Discovering Scarfolk obv - http://scarfolk.blogspot.co.uk

Jeff W, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link

What about the book "Discovering Scarfolk" by Richard Littler?

michaellambert, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link

How abt dvds of children of the stones or something?

Modern French Music from Failure to Boulez (askance johnson), Monday, 15 December 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link

I'd meant to come on here to *wonder* about Scarfolk. How is it regarded in the world of Ghost Box et al? I saw it in a bookshop and my immediate thought was "I didn't know there was a Ghost Box book" and when I realised it wasn't Ghost Box felt a bit weird towards it. The website does amuse me, though.

djh, Monday, 15 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link

The humour seems stretched a little thin in the book.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Monday, 15 December 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link

Arthur Machen or MR James?

rob, Monday, 15 December 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link

Iain Sinclair books

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Monday, 15 December 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link

Bemused that I have never seen Children of the Stones. Does it stand up to "grown up" watching?

djh, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link

Children Of The Stones is excellent, sort it!

Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link

Yes it does stand. And also induces a powerful and sadly unfulfillable urge to own a soundtrack album of that awesome atonal choral music.

a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

eight months pass...

Looks perfect http://www.ghostbox.co.uk/products/product_in_a_moment.htm

Gouty_Ted, Friday, 21 August 2015 10:01 (eight years ago) link

An expanded version of the Ritual and Education sampler?

Noel Emits, Friday, 21 August 2015 12:43 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

copy of ouroborindra just went for $65 / £43 on ebay

the late great, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:38 (eight years ago) link

it's the only one i don't have. not sure why it's so rare and hasn't been repressed.

the late great, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 00:47 (eight years ago) link

my guess is copyright issues with the bbc? there's a quote from "the stone tape" in the liner notes and i don't think that's quite out of copyright yet.

the late great, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 01:04 (eight years ago) link

web site just says "out of stock", wonder if it's just accelerationist profiteers

lute bro (brimstead), Tuesday, 15 December 2015 01:07 (eight years ago) link

well they have repressed everything else once or twice (i'm talking CD btw) but they have never repressed ouroborindra for some reason

the late great, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

New Belbury Poly out today

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Saturday, 28 May 2016 03:45 (seven years ago) link

Latest Mailout:
https://ghostbox.greedbag.com/mailouts/ghostbox047/ghost-box-news-new-ways-out-other-voices-08-belbury-poly-t

Excited for the Beautify Junkyards 7" as well as the Pye Corner Audio and Pattern Forms LPs.

Jeff W, Sunday, 29 May 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link

I like the new Belbury Poly album.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

Yep, pleased to see there's a Pattern Forms LP upcoming, I'd assumed the single was a one-off.

michaellambert, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Clips from the Pattern Forms LP sounding sensational to these ears:
https://soundcloud.com/ghost-box/sets/peelawaytheivy

Pye Corner Audio album is also v. good.

Jeff W, Thursday, 1 September 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Agree, the new Pye Corner Audio album is excellent.

stevo-rd, Friday, 2 September 2016 05:00 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

New album from The Pattern Forms out now. It feels like Ghost Box has really been cranking it out this year.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Friday, 21 October 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

The Pattern Forms album is great. The drums sound spectacular, and obviously Jon Brooks hits it out of the park.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 24 October 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Another winner from Ghost Box: The Invisible World of Beautify Junkyards, dreamy psych-pop half sung in English, half in Portuguese (the band are from Lisbon, I think).

Jeff W, Monday, 12 March 2018 13:54 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

New Advisory Circle - Ways of Seeing

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 25 May 2018 05:05 (five years ago) link

Is it good ?

add surface noise (Ross), Friday, 25 May 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link

This is fucking great
Advisory Circle are so classic
Like a long lost carpenter score

add surface noise (Ross), Friday, 25 May 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

I seem to like this label a little more in my memory than I do while listening. I still listen to everything and enjoy nearly all of it to some extent but have to concede that it's eerie, crusty textures like those of The Focus Group, Roj, and selected Advisory Circle records (eg. Other Channels and From Out Here, from memory) that I'm always hoping to hear, rather than the relatively crisp, uncluttered synths of the more recent Advisory Circle and Belbury Poly releases.

Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 26 May 2018 06:29 (five years ago) link

Jon Brooks is so prolific I always think he can't possibly surprise any more, but there are a few tracks on Ways of Seeing that feel like new territory for him. Personally, I'm glad this isn't Other Channels 2.

Jeff W, Saturday, 26 May 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

nag has a fair point; the new advisory circle is much lighter than the last one, which was the darkest one since other channels (which is hard to beat for darkness with those bloody murder screams N all).

I like the new one a lot tho, it sounds like zelda 2 music at times

California scheming (Ross), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

i think a case could be made for ghost box taking the throne from the old overrated idm canon of yesterday; personally i'd rather listen to a new focus group than any old boards

California scheming (Ross), Sunday, 27 May 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

Controp: Ghost Box is for people who won't admit to liking IDM unless it's coated in arch references to Sapphire & Steel and fucking Bagpuss ;-)

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Monday, 28 May 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link

Mostly kidding BTW, and ibrealise that's way off the mark.

But I dunno, as well done as some of it is, and as terrific as the presentation often is (the early 80s software package referencing Outward Journies is just delicious) I can't find much enthusiasm for more Tangerine Dream or Radiophonic Workshop knock offs, despite being ostensibly in the target demographic.

Did really like the Soundcarriers album though.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Monday, 28 May 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

It's not really Berlin school though, is it?

doug watson, Monday, 28 May 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

The Soundcarriers album on Ghost Box is great, as are their other albums. I wonder if they’re working on anything...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 28 May 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

totally knew you were kidding and appreciated it Noel

soundcarriers absolutely KILL

California scheming (Ross), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

Liking this new advisory a lot, love the minimal use of percussion - doesn't date it as much

California scheming (Ross), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link

Controp: Ghost Box is for people who won't admit to liking IDM unless it's coated in arch references to Sapphire & Steel and fucking Bagpuss

I'll admit this isn't exactly off the mark for me. I don't really care about the references, but Ghost Box has definitely been a big factor in making IDM palatable to me. There was a time when I ran away from IDM like the plague.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

Piggybacking on the new Advisory Circle praise. Think it just might be the best on yet.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

'Flight Capture' is a amazing.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

So amazing

It’s like hold music from a distant star

California scheming (Ross), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

Controp: Ghost Box is for people who won't admit to liking IDM unless it's coated in arch references to Sapphire & Steel and fucking Bagpuss

I'll admit this isn't exactly off the mark for me. I don't really care about the references, but Ghost Box has definitely been a big factor in making IDM palatable to me. There was a time when I ran away from IDM like the plague.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, May 29, 2018 5:24 AM (fourteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not a dig, but I genuinely do not get the mere mention of IDM in this thread, let alone Ghost Box making IDM more palatable. Unless you have a different understanding of IDM than I do (Aphex, BoC, Plaid, Black Dog etc), how is that even remotely close to Ghost Box's Olde English reveries and 'hauntology chic'?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link

Fair

Ross, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

Side note my original point was this form of electronic music is as vital and inspiring as any classic idm

Ross, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

I'd argue that there are pretty strong connections between Ghost Box artists like Advisory Circle and Boards of Canada in particular.

To make a little more sense of my comment, a lot of this comes down to my own personal biases against IDM, especially pre-2000s IDM. At the time, I was very wrapped up in techno, DnB, house, going to raves, dancing, etc. IDM came across as pretty nebulous and often haphazard, and I bristled at the fact that it claimed to be intelligent or dance music. Getting into Ghost Box lead to me being more willing to listen to non-dance oriented electronic music. I think I warmed to it because it came across as more intentional to me.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

really liking the new advisory circle. it's fairly lonely sounding and not very sinister...also doesn't have as many samples from old hammer horror etc. which is a nice change.
it kinda has an aquatic feel over all, good for the summer i would guess

synonym toast crunch (Ross), Saturday, 2 June 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

it's Balearic!

Indeed. It’s easily in my top 10 now

Slippage (Ross), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

New Jacco Gardner isn't on Ghost Box, but it should be:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjzdfTOCEhY

better artwork than their last few releases, too

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Really enjoying the new Pye Corner Audio. The vocoder really threw me through a loop.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:24 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

Not had a chance to process this yet but

Coming late Jan 2020, In Another Room is a four track 7″ EP by very special guest, Paul Weller. More on this and other 2020 releases here: https://t.co/ANmgyxZOEe pic.twitter.com/oHsFhgE3wa

— Ghost Box (@GhostBoxRecords) October 25, 2019

Jeff W, Friday, 25 October 2019 12:10 (four years ago) link

!!

In Another Room is a four track 7″ EP by very special guest, Paul Weller. On Ghost Box, Weller finds the perfect home to explore his interest in experimental tape music and early electronics. The four tracks here though are more than just experiments and build a subtly melancholic atmosphere from field recordings and melodic instrumental fragments.

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 25 October 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link

o_O

emil.y, Friday, 25 October 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

to give him his due, this album cover was um, weller-head of the curve as far as retrospectral graphics go...

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81nmwXbjIDL._SX355_.jpg

the creator has a mazda van (NickB), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

hmmm maybe - but that's mostly just a homage to the BBC Sound Effects library discs cover art, no?

The better antecedent for the new EP, I'd have said, is tracks on Wake Up The Nation such as "7&3 Is The Strikers Name" or the Broadcast-y "In Amsterdam".

Jeff W, Friday, 25 October 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

The Soundcarriers album is so good. I can't get enough of it.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 31 January 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

Don't think I've listened to this one before

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 31 January 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Kinda sucks:

Unfortunately for contractual reasons to do with our current digital distribution channels, we will soon be closing the Ghost Box Bandcamp store. If you haven't yet downloaded your purchase or you'd like to buy any of the other Ghost Box titles you have until 12th June.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 June 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

Whoa, that's a bummer. Wonder that contract would require that move?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 June 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

I'd like to know that!

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 1 June 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

New Belbury Poly is another winner.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

New Beautify Junkyards album is luminous and wonderful and has luscious depths that are perhaps not typical of the GB catalogue - really satisfying

technopolis, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

I saw this pop up today, excited to check it out

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

It’s fabulous.

Jeff W, Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

I also didn't realize they had other releases besides The Beast Shouted Love. Guess I have a lot of catching up to do.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Was there ever any big announcement about why they shut down the Bandcamp page? I noticed that Soundcarriers just reissued their 2014 album on their own Bandcamp, with new cover art and everything.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

Soundcarriers re-released under a new label, right? I noticed that.

The new Pye Corner Audio is phenomenal. I can’t stop playing it. It’s a little more… fun and aggressive than usual?

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 3 March 2022 23:14 (two years ago) link

Yeah, Phosphonic, which must be their own label, since the only things listed on the label's Discogs page are their last two albums.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 3 March 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

There's a whole Large Plants album now, I notice! I thought "La isla bonita" was a little bit brilliant that one time but... I guess we'll see.

Meanwhile, I think I at least vaguely approve of this Pneumatic Tubes thingy after one listen.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 26 April 2022 03:38 (two years ago) link

Kinda perplexed by what I've heard of Large Plants, it sounded like garden-variety psychedelic revivalism, there are dozens of similar bands knocking around.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:27 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

^ 'Perplexing' captures it. Perhaps the first Ghost Box release where I'll concede that there's a 0.00% chance I'd be listening to a full LP of this without the GB stamp of approval. (Not that I'm even disliking it especially, and I did get ridiculous mileage out of the Madonna thing as a novelty item.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 16 May 2022 10:49 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

New album from The Advisory Circle just landed. I haven't listened to more than a couple of tracks but it's lovely so far! Out on double 10" and CD.

I believe it's her first album release as Cate Brooks. Spotify still has her deadname :(

The Ghost Club, Friday, 30 September 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link

Even more exciting news from the label:

Next month Ghost Box embarks on a series of complete album re-issues on vinyl and CD. Starting with GBX001 Farmer’s Angle, the EP by Belbury Poly that launched the label back in January 2005. It'll be followed in November by The Focus Group's Sketches & Spells and The Willows by Belbury Poly in December, with another re-issue every other month thereafter. Some of the early releases have never been revisited since their print to order CD-R originals, so it'll be a chance to fill the gaps in your Ghost Box collection.

I hope The Advisory Circle's Mind How You Go gets a reissue soon. Such a moody little EP, but prices on Discogs have been ridiculous.

The Ghost Club, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

oh wow, have these ever been released on vinyl before? I'd love to own a vinyl copy of The Willows in particular.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 30 September 2022 18:28 (one year ago) link

I'm pretty sure the earliest releases were only CD or CD-R on demand so yep, first time on wax I believe!

The Ghost Club, Friday, 30 September 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Any chance they'll do that Broadcast & The Focus Group 7"?

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 1 October 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

would love a copy of sketches and spells in any format <3 awesome

brimstead, Saturday, 1 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

Julian House's sleeve designs are so great that I'd want to get the reissues on vinyl, but I'm running out of space so will probably get the CDs :(

Just ordered four Ghost Box CDs including the new Advisory Circle, which is just so good. Lots of great 'BBC Radiophonic Workshop performs Kraftwerk' moments.

The Ghost Club, Saturday, 1 October 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

The new Belbury Poly is a nice change of pace, a full band affair plus poems by Justin Hopper, who was so great on the Chanctonbury Rings album. Ghost Box has really been on fire the last couple years.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 10 August 2023 01:04 (eight months ago) link


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