Don't POLL On Meeee (It's Gonna POLL): REM's "Lifes Rich Pageant"

Rejected titles: "I Am, I Am, I Am SuPOLLman" and "CuyaPOLLga"

And, for reference:

TS: R.E.M.'s "Life's Rich Pageant" vs "Document"

CUYAHOGA CUYAHOGA CUYAHOGA CUYAHOGA

I think you chose the poll title just fine, Dr. Casino. The alternatives would have been far worse. Does this mean a hard rain's gonna fall, though?

Just a touch.

This has the best one-two-three of any R.E.M. album post-Murmur.

Voted for "Flowers of Guatemala" over "Begin the Begin" and "Fall On Me" -- love Buck's solo and Berry's Mo Tucker imitation.

Why do you people have to ASSUME I have this on my iPod? Do you know what I went through with Murmur the other night? I decided I had to rip it from vinyl because I'm insane. Then I ended up purchasing the damn thing on iTunes anyway so I could have the bonus tracks. And now you have to throw THIS album at me. Sigh. STOP!

For me this album is about the rockers, and I include "Fall On Me" in that category... this begins a string of REM albums where the slow songs largely bore me to tears, with a few exceptions.

So my first round would be:

"Begin the Begin" – 3:28
"Fall on Me" – 2:50
"Hyena" – 2:50
"I Believe" – 3:49
"Just a Touch" – 3:00
"Swan Swan H" – 2:42
"Superman" (Gary Zekley, Mitchell Bottler) – 2:52

...which are all pretty great, just fantastic showcases of a rock band at the peak of their cohesion, just playing together and sounding great. Mike Mills is just awesome on this record - but I have to very, very narrowly take it from "Superman" and give it to "Fall On Me," maybe Stipe's best vocal performance ever and the band is hitting on all cylinders. Love the way they milk the chorus JUST enough times that you're always ready to hear the song again. The whole "don't fall on me DON'T FALLLLLLLLLL" - gets me every time, and Bill Berry just NAILS it too.

"Fall On Me" remains Stipe's favorite song.

Hunted danced and sang
Take a picture here
Take a souvenir

HYENA

please make it stop

I only do one of these every two weeks, so if you save a little of your pocket money every day you can keep up!

hahahahaha <3

Still to go - Chronic Town, Reckoning, Document, Green, Dead Letter Office, Automatic, New Adventures, Reveal, Around the Sun, Accelerate, and a miscellaneous b-sides and oddities poll. So we'll be somewhere in June by the time I launch the ultimate CLASSIC STYLE ILX POLL for R.E.M. Quiver in anticipation!

(Note, I will consider the rogue Murmur poll legit but still maintain sadface about it.)

This is tough. At the time I first heard this record (1989?) it would have been "These Days" but now "Just a Touch" takes it -- maybe because it represents a different path R.E.M. could have taken, but didn't. Probably for the best, but this is a hell of a song. "Let's put our heads together and start a new country up. Our fathers'fathers' fathers tried. Erased the parts they didn't like." is the best lyric on this record and "Cuyahoga" is their best political song.

Dr. Casino, if you do a Chronic Town poll, the whole universe might explode. Are you aware of this?

Hmmm, should have timed that one for New Year's instead of this one then.

I'm voting "Superman" because it's fun to sing it at karaoke while staring at a hot girl.

^^^ equally awesome cover

soup soup soup soup soooooooooperman, yeahhhh

Cuyahoga narrowly beats Fall On Me.

This is the best REM album.

^^^^^^TRUTH BOMB INCOMING^^^^

Holy shit @ that Pac "Superman" cover.

I still love Murmur the most, but oh God this is tough -

What Matt DC said.

As far as I'm concerned, "Begin the Begin" and "These Days" are just one long song, because I'm incapable of playing one without playing the other.

"Fall On Me" duh.

Their best 80s album apart from the first two.

Begin the Begin, but all 3 opening tracks really. incredible start to an album.

i agree that this is the best REM album.

Love this album, as Dr. Casino mentioned, for the rockers, but voted for "Swan Swan H," which circa 1990 I used to pore over trying to figure out what the hell he was talking about. Still love that song and this whole album.

"The Flowers of Guatemala" over "Begin The Begin". It's REM's first power ballad! And an honest to goodness guitar solo! With bells! The title suggests something political, probably about US military involvement in Central America, but the lyric seems to be about poisonous mushrooms. Is this love or is it confusion? Never mind. I still don't really get the politics, but the mystery is typically REM. It's one of my five favorite REM songs.

http://www.jcu.edu/chemistry/naosmm/2007/11031952Fire.jpg

Begin the Begin

Hahahaha (xpost)

"Superman" for me

Wait, Doctor Casino, you only like the rockers on this, and therefore your list of favorites goes SEVEN LONG without including "These Days?"

Just never really stuck with me.

The guitar solo on the Flowers of Guatemala is really something special.

Voted for "I Believe" but really I could vote for anyone of these

I really do hate "Swan Swan H," though.

Listening to this record right now, turned UP, and the rockers really just kill, every one of them. "These Days" is way better than I think of it as being, and "I Believe" is sharp as a tack. This is like Stipe's Wise Indian album -

When I was young and full of grace
And spirited - a rattlesnake
When I was young and fever felled
My spirit, I will not tell
You're on your honor not to tell

I believe in coyotes...

And man, from the opening bars I'm wondering if I should have voted for "Superman," which, cover or not, is one of the most sublime pop songs they ever put out. This must have brought the house down back in the day. God bless Mills.

Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL
Please do the CHRONIC TOWN POLL

I heard Cuyahoga in my head this morning. Getting impatient for the results of this one...

voted Cuyahoga. I was singing it the other day, too.

"fall on me" ftw, but i voted "these days" because it may be underloved. (and i think part of what makes "fall on me" work is the clamorous lead-in of "these days.")

(this is undoubtedly the r.e.m. album i have listened to the most over the years.)

Am also impatient for the results, may start shortening these to a week and a half. It's just nice to catch the stragglers and lurkers. Will launch the next, highly-anticipated poll hot on the heels of these results tho!

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(this is undoubtedly the r.e.m. album i have listened to the most over the years.)

this

but still cuyahoga... intro was the first thing I played on a bass lol

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Woohoo! Great poll, guys. New one will be up in a few minutes and the next one, one week from today...

This is the best REM album.

― Matt DC, Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:54

You know what? OTMFM.

can't argue http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/jun/30/rem-lifes-rich-pageant-review

The band has teamed with Capitol/I.R.S. for the July 12 release of an expanded 25th Anniversary 2CD and digital edition of Lifes Rich Pageant. The new edition features the digitally remastered original album, plus 19 previously unreleased demo recordings cut prior to the album's studio sessions. The commemorative release also adds new liner notes by music journalist and author Parke Puterbaugh, with the 2CD package presented in a lift-top box with a poster and four postcards.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51jtkWVhyyL._SL500_AA500_.jpg

"For years, the overwhelming emotion provoked by their ongoing career seems to have been disappointment."

I don't know about this at all. When R.E.M. were posting things on Facebook when the new album was coming out, I'd look at the comments and see people all around the world saying, "I love this! I love R.E.M.! Can't wait for the new album!" etc. They have A LOT of fans.

what is this - loads, if not most REM fans have reservations over LRP - second side is not great IMO. First side is great.

If they overcome with great material as Petri says why didn't it replace crap like 'What If We Give It Away' or 1980 knockoffs like Just A Touch

They have a lot of fans, they also have a lot of long term (quite fanatical, murmurs.com members, and so on) fans who are genuinely not bothered anymore.

That's probably true, but I think there's a tendency to see that demographic as defining their audience more than it does.

One of the best examples of a band who have fanatical followers of very distinct periods, and almost equally scathing of others, whilst remaining loosely 'fans'

This is way beyond Reveal, this is going back to Out of Time, the Warners thing and even when the vocal and drums got louder. At least 3 or 4 very distinct periods.

The one area most people seem to agree is that the songwriting has gone downhill.

Yeah, I still question that. You do encounter that opinion a lot in reading reviews.

Or not even there, really, with the last two albums. A lot of reviewers mention something negative about Around the Sun.

would be surprised to learn that the majority of REM's fans, even their younger fans, genuinely prefer the last 3 or 4 albums. would not, by way of contrast, be shocked to learn that this was true of U2. but anything's possible, i suppose, and getting most of your data points from critics can certainly tend to skew your view of things...

Preferring other albums is different than stating that "for years, the overwhelming emotion provoked by their ongoing career seems to have been disappointment."

The problem is or was that, from an early stage, REM was very 'of the canon' with Murmur and so on. And they've been that way more of less until this last decade.

Add to that, despite a few 80s fan getting off the boat (only realising this in retrospect JUST HOW MANY re. various 'fansites', it certainly wasn't millions) with the early 90s stuff, I and many others of a similar age got on the wagon and most music fans of a similar bent LOVED the supposed Q-magazine fodder, multi-platinum stuff. It was only with the commercial decline that all kind of criticisms seemed to come out, some new, some old.

My question is, who's actually buying newly released REM albums? I mean, I am! But at the same time I'm firmly in the "love Chronic Town through Out of Time, occasionally listen to Monster + New Adventures" camp, and I buy mostly out of a sense of loyalty (though certainly I thought Accelerate and Collapse Into Now had more to offer than the three before that.)

As for the new release: looks like some of these are pre-Chronic Town songs, long available at the "Live at Tyrones" tape -- are these those recordings, or did they record versions of these in the LRP sessions? "Wait," in particular, is superb, kind of REM does Buddy Holly. Also, "Bad Day" is a great song; why they never recorded it and then cannibalized it for "End of the World As We Know It" I'll never understand. Rereleasing it is just good sense, not desperation.

Remaster streaming here:

http://www.spin.com/articles/exclusive-album-rems-lifes-rich-pageant

Sounds nice, but I've at least listened to clips of the other remasters and this is the first one where I didn't feel like there was some kind of substantial sonic revelation to it.

Did give me a renewed appreciation for Side Two, though. The stretch of three songs that ends the album is really using album space in a creative way, and a way they hadn't before.

OK, I'm totally wrong! Listening to the clips of the old version on iTunes and yeah, the new one is definitely fuller sounding.

Wow, big difference.

Still, I think the thing with the remasters of Murmur and Reckoning was not just that they were fuller sounding but the improved clarity and definition. And the Fables one made the guitars sound so good!

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15625-lifes-rich-pageant-25th-anniversary-edition/

This is like Stipe's Wise Indian album

This was a very stupid comment by me, sorry y'all.

lol

i love this album so much. i have the best vinyl copy of it and i am blasting it right now. i wish you could hear how good it sounds. it fills me with joy. also probably my fave stipe lyrics of any rem album. my kinda surreal americana. wish more people did that. fuck with the desert. but maybe not like jim morrison. no offense to jim.

second. still my fave of theirs, even though i was a teen chronic town snob. i remember walking into strawberries at like, downtown crossing in boston the day it dropped and getting it.

Many of their gnarliest riffs, and a blast to listen to.

fly to carry each his burden

can we get some love for Flowers of Guatemala? i have always really loved that song and probably posted the same thing upthread but i feel like it deserves more votes than 2!! tough competition i guess.

americana

"Night wings her hair chains
Here's your wooden greenback sing
Wooden beams and dovetail sweep
I struck that picture ninety times
I walked that path a hundred ninety
Long, low time ago, people talk to me"

on paper at least, this is legit the closest thing to Syd Barrett anyone has done

No votes for Hyena makes me sad, the urgency in the verses in that tune.

"Flowers" is so Velvet-y. And I love that simple guitar solo.

nights unfurl at the opening, in the final act of the beginning of time

"some bone chains and tooth...picks" kills me every time.

Trust in your calling, make sure your calling's true
Think of others, the others think of you
Silly rule golden words make
Practice, practice makes perfect
Perfect is a fault and fault lines change

Swan Swan Hummingbird is the one here that still gives me chills, great album

we are all free now

i don't even actually know all the words. i sing along anyway. i just love how they sound. and "begin the begin" is one of the all time great opening tracks. its amazing.

pretty sure they used "what noisy cats are we"on a t-shirt design back in the day

and "Superman" my god

SWAHN SWAHN HUMMINGBIIIIIRD is the only track I don't get :/