The balearic beardo beach hippie album canon

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I'm thinking this is a slightly different topic to "Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?" (in some ways narrower and in some ways more expansive) although honesty compels me to admit that I was inspired to start this thread by picking up the Pacific Ocean Blue/Bambu remaster today.

Anything that suggests a desultory beach party is supa-desirable.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 10:11 (fifteen years ago) link

"Sandinista" The Clash.

Mark G, Monday, 20 October 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Jimmy Buffett? I admit I've never heard the guy - I don't think anyone in the UK has!

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Monday, 20 October 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link

That Manu Chao record - Clandestino or whatever it's called?

sonofstan, Monday, 20 October 2008 10:29 (fifteen years ago) link

http://blog.iso50.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/america.png

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

so America - S/T

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know if I totally understand the genre description but I could totally hear 'Uncle John's Band' at such a thing. So Workingman's Dead then maybe.

NickB, Monday, 20 October 2008 11:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7d/So_far.jpg

^^^^ this cover says beardo beach hippie album to me. Not so balearic though perhaps.

NickB, Monday, 20 October 2008 11:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7151/b00000251ivw2.jpg

nerve_pylon, Monday, 20 October 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

are we on Yacht Rock again?

baaderonixx, Monday, 20 October 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, this is more than 70s soft rock

what about

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/416W2ETG6TL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

or this

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/2454512231_8f04a21c77.jpg?v=0

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Vangelis, yes

http://www.comebackrecords.com/Vangelis_Dragon.jpg

especially "stuffed aubergine"

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

that's not a dragon, that's mighty cthulhu!

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 20 October 2008 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

you guys change what the word balearic means every day

jigglepanda.gif (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 October 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link

audioslave = heavy balearic

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

I think half the early suggestions on this thread have got the wrong idea

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

im not really sure what the idea is tbh, i wish tim had provided an example of what he meant besides p.o.b.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link

but i will suggest: http://www.dougpayne.com/hmiana.jpg

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2179/1565797393_e225068ceb.jpg?v=0

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ggFaXWbCL._SS400_.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:58 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.jeffbots.com/AlanParsonsProject-IRobot.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51eDRS7vsyL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/ificouldonly.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51EVZ1683PL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

jaxon, where to start with these? (apart from avalon, which I have solved)

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

get transfer station Blue it is dope as a rope

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

they're all equally amazing and solid albums, just depends on what you're looking for.

jan hammer - super funky fusion w/amazing songs
vangelis - weirdo art rock w/great songs and eastern sounds
alpert - funky jazz, spaced out synth arpeggios and great beachy melodies
parsons - funky pink floyd
shrieve - blissed out synth noodles w/moments of heavy light-jazz funk
crosby - stoned out of your gourd folky mantras
flash and the pan - funky 10cc

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for the pointers. funky 10cc sounds like good times.

I am down with vangelis (suggested him myself upthread)

caek, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

the ambient eno box

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

alpert and crosby are good suggestions but jax ur list seems more like a general balearic canon and not necc "beardo beach hippie"

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

desultory beardo beach hippie

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

beck's sea change and modern guilt

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

so what makes something beardo beach hippy? is this like suggestions for balearock?

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

i sort of think tim just threw "balearic" into the title of the thread so that more people would read it and post to it

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

jeez not everything is balearic, guys

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Tim, stuff from actual 70s? Or modern?

If the latter is allowed, o where to start.

The Beta Band and all their friends, for starters.

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

can we just put on cosmo galactic prism and dance around the campfire?

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

balearic is a state of mind man

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

jaxons mom is pretty balearic

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

smooth, easy, and perfect for getting down with after a night out

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link

your mom's a beardo

jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I know my thread title is confusing, but it was sort of deliberate: the idea is that there definitely seems to be a loose canon emerging which stretches from David Crosby (but perhaps not CS&N per se) through to say Arthur Russell. If "beardo disco" and "nu-balearic" are slightly distinct but overlapping revivalist scenes then this is the stuff that members from both stuff think is good stuff, dude. Albums that I would get laughed off djhistory.com for not having heard.

It's distinct from soft-rock or "California rock" or any other actual historical scene partly because it's broader than that, but also insofar as this needs to be stuff that either has been or very soon will be recontextualised by people currently or formerly into dance music. But it doesn't need to dance-like itself. Am i making more sense?

jaxon seems to get it.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

BTW jaxon is that the Alan Parsons Project album I should check out?

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm thinking this canon might even include stuff like this as an outlier:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/355/thumbnailhp5.jpg

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

oh ok tim u should have just called it "maxs favorite albums thread" then

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://onlinestorefakrounmusic.com/images/45singllayahob.jpg

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

um, the new Hatchback album, Colors Of The Sun. Any track by Studio? Maybe those are too obvious but I think they definitely fit

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-436199-1118592662.jpg

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

andreas vollenweider maybe?

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

bordering on Harley and not beachy, but first three James Gang records.

Also, for similar reasons, first two Sugarloaf records.

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link

chris rea is the king of the desultory beach party

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link

the "crazy" angle: Osmonds' Crazy Horses and parts of The Plan

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

whenever i think of fool if you think it's over i think of miracles by jefferson starship and that makes me think of i'm not in love by 10cc. EVERY TIME.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

A good chunk of The Free Design and Harpers Bizarre (it would have to be a bit of a twee beach)

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

"on the beach" has my favorite chris rea drum machine sound:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Lighthouse!

Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link

"all summer long" is great too:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

"jax ur list seems more like a general balearic canon and not necc "beardo beach hippie""

max's point here is sound though: i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff, mostly at the more conservative end if/where my mother was a fan. But feel free to post anything along the continuum.

Stuff that would previously be considered as "rock" but now is considered genre-smashing avant genius (whether this seems fair or not) strikes me as interesting precisely for that reason, the way new ears "hear" something more than perhaps is even really there. The overreaching claims made on behalf of Pacific Ocean Blue are a good example (a great album despite not sounding like Remain In Light etc.). On the Dennis Wilson thread people were suggesting the following as canonical picks:

http://bp3.blogger.com/_aNTsUIQhmf0/SB8oGu7EW-I/AAAAAAAAATU/t-TxiAHZxwA/s320/Chris+Bell+-+I+Am+The+Cosmos+-+1992.jpg

http://bp2.blogger.com/_BR-l63C-2iA/SAjBAsW2xQI/AAAAAAAAB7k/3UUYcibPvZU/s320/Gene+Clark+No+Other.jpg

http://bp1.blogger.com/_2U1VTXrO58c/RyGUgfK5L-I/AAAAAAAAAAM/OUgUCRhtwl8/s320/skip+spence+oar.jpg

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.valarock.com/starsailor.jpg

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link

chris rea must be a huge jj cale fan. that's all i know. which is wonderful. cuz i love jj. who needs david sylvian when you can just listen to chris rea and jj cale? no fretless bass to distract either!

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

"i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff,"

well then seriously you should check that west coast thread again. there are only 4 million recommendations on there.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link

no other is the greatest album ever made. this year. for me. and maybe next year too.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think

david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

My contribution: a band called Sea Level, also known as most of the Allman Brothers rhythm section.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/501033035f70b261/

Also Mcguinn, Clark and Hillman.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

"looking for the summer" is the best chris rea summertime video though:

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think"

really more of an undead hollywood goth pimp vibe if you ask me.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?"

Yes! See upthread.

Scott the purpose of this thread is so that people like you and max can tell me that No Other, while amazing, doesn't fit into this canon. I haven't heard it so I don't know!

I want to check out everything on the west coast thread. give me a million years and a million dollars plz.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

skot wolf king of la sounds more like that than no other does! i think.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

So is it Ok for some vaguely rhythmic New Age to get thrown with all the Alan Parsons and Eno?

If so Kitaro, his first two albums mostly.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

What is the best Santana album BTW?

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

i need more shadowfax albums.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link

oh jeez, where to start. santana have so many amazing albums. and so many different periods and sounds...

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i spent a lot of time this spring with the first disc of this, but there is also a lot of crap in that box.

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

http://peelout.typepad.com/peel_out/images/wolf_king.jpg

^^ if this doesnt say undead hollywood goth pimp to you i dont know what does

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

buy LOTUS, i dare you. so amazing...

http://i.inlive.co.kr/alb/m00/d26/l0026439.gif

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that john phillips record. i haven't heard it in years. i like almost everthing he ever did though. um, with group and on his own.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry, my last post was a confusing xpost re crosby.

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

u know what tim? im listening to no other right now with beach in mind and i think it might fit. title track in particular.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

speaking of shadowfax, i always really dug tri atma too:

(first tri atma album is awesome, and sadly i no longer own a copy)

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

title track of no other fits everything that i am on earth. getting strength of strings tattoo one of these days.

scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Re No Other, I still plan to get it either way max.

I also liked the idea Jeff W proposed early on in the West Coast thread of a studio session musician artistry album canon (though he didn't put it quite like that) - something quite separate both to Gene Clark and balearic beardo beach hippies.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

this is kind of hard cause some of this stuff--gene clark & john phillips say--doesnt necessarily scream "beach" (tho they do scream "70s LA" to me), but would totally fit in a mix sandwiched with 'beach party'-er songs. if that makes sense. so like "no other" doesn't necc work as part of this "canon" 'cause as an album its a little too c/w, i think, but individual songs given a chance would fit well

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry i have to correct myself, "no other" isnt really all that country, im just using that as shorthand for like... "i was in the byrds and hung out with a bunch of LA cats in the 70s"

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the new reissue of john phillip's "lost" jagger/richards record, pussycat, totally fits the wasted beach vibe, it's sleazier than wolfking

velko, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Obligatory shout out for On The Beach here.

NickB, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

max feel free to err on the side of inclusiveness when making these suggestions, but qualifiers like the above are interesting too.

In a more pop sense, I absolutely adored David Cassidy's "Romance (Love Mix)" (as used, go figure, on a Ronny & Renzo djhistory.com mix) - would love more stuff like that.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure if this works with all the 70s beach pop, but its got a Roxy connection so maybe

http://www.disco-robertwyatt.com/images/reprises/images/Primitive_Guitars_big.jpg

Phil Manzanera - Primitive Guitars

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Even though it has been over talked a bit on this thread, the theme of recontextualization played with my head when I first listened to No Other this morning front to back and the first track is extremely country to me. But then the rest of the album departs into coked out bluesey folk country madness. I mean i think all the music on this thread is the type that crosses typical genres such that the expectations to begin with dictate how the rest of the record can be perceived.

No Other was recommended to me by jax when I asked for more coked out 70s LA rock like Pacific Ocean Blue, all Fleetwood Mac, early Dan and such...

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Fixed

I mean i think all the music on this thread is the type that crosses typical genre boundaries such that one's expectations upon listening dictate how the rest of the record is perceived.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that that is a revelation but the country aspects of No Other really blew my mind in this way. For instance, the slide guitar and the cracks in Clark's voice, typical country elements with a completely different context.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

you know i feel like i have a long and complicated "personal essay" or something to write someday about all this music (by which i mean trad-balearic and nu-balearic and 'cosmic american music' and what have you--everything on this thread & the balearic thread and the 70s thread) and my relationship to it and its relationship to LA and my relationship to LA as filtered through this stuff. its weird--maybe not actually--but i dont think i really actually started to love and enjoy los angeles as a city and on its own terms until i started dipping into all of this, the sunny-tropical-cheerful music. i went from listening to a lot of east coast mobb deep/dj premiere/rza ice-cold winter-night rap to all these warmer records and i found that I started to love LA even more.

which is all sort of a preamble anyway to the half-formed idea i have about the way all this stuff relates and the way it relates to LA and to the beach and most importantly how LA itself relates itself to the beach and to its beaches and to a certain extent to the beautiful near-wilderness around it. and its so half-formed i dont really know how to articulate it--i sort of want to draw a diagram--but part of me thinks that what makes crosby and phillips and f'wood mac "fit" fairly easily under the umbrella of "balearica" and acts like the band and the dead (and feel free to disagree with me, anyone) fit far less easily under that same umbrella is some kind of interestingly-felt relationship with the beach or the idea of "beach" that LA has and SF doesnt.

i guess my theory is kind of shot down now because there are way more balearic-y guys coming out of the bay area than LA right now, but i think what i am sort of trying to say (and i guess i should mention that this is as much about the mental filters w/ which i listen to this music as anything) is that theres something very specific about los angeles that makes these acts work. like they occupy some LA-only space between what gram parsons called "cosmic american music" (which i guess i take to mean all these pseudo-revivalist 'americana' acts from the 70s incl. the band, the byrds, the dead, etc) and what ill just call "balearica" (by using which i mean to imply that im casting a slightly larger net than just "balearic") that isnt exactly a "beach-y" country & western pastiche (thats kenny chesney, right) but some kind of weird los angeleno thing.

and ill admit first that i am into this theory because it has a neat geographical symmetry, i.e., LA is "west" in a lot of ways--desert, hot, etc--but its right there on the beach, too.

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

looking at my post i see im casting an imagined dichotomy between 'americana' and 'balearica' and ignoring the sort of essential "hippy beardo" aspect

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

and you dont have time to post to my blog...

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

beaches in nor cal are way more desultory and beardo hippie than so cal

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

tbh im not really sure what a desultory beach party is, partly cause i dont really know what desultory means

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

"lack a plan, purpose or enthusiasm" sounds fun & balearic until the fourth word

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, Japanese beaches have hippies too. At least they did in the early 80s.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/501054475f84fc55/

Kitaro - Dawn of the Astral

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe i should be clearer--this is sort of a pet theory that has as much to do with my own relationship to the music & to a place that ive lived as it does with any objective reality about this music or where it comes from in a geographical and/or spiritual sense, i dont actually think that ppl from the bay cant make good cosmic american balearica or that japanese people arent beardo beach hippies, i just think there are interesting things abt LA geographically & maybe culturally too that allow it to produce a high volume of music that fits well in this sub-sub-genre

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

i think desultory basically equals "moody cosmic" in this case, but maybe tim could clarify

tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

dude max, i have to disagree with you there. how much of the stuff mentioned in this thread comes from LA? the 70s rock scene may be the major contributor, but honestly i think what makes it so amazing is to take a typical example, Studio, come from a completely different geographical and climate perspective. it seems to me more escapist, the tropical element. and while it works perfectly and could be very well meant for enjoyment in desert beach oases, i dunno if LA is the epicenter of creation you are making it out to be.

i did fall in love with this music in LA though, and I understand your connection. i went down last weekend and i miss the sunshine and the blue skies.

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

"lack a plan, purpose or enthusiasm"

I don't know, I reckon "lack of enthusiasm" kinda fits, maybe if you read it more as "lack of energy/drive". Sometimes this sort of music holds itself at arms lengths from "fun" and physical release, and also feels wistful and and sad about that. Like when you're at a party and you've drunk too much or you've had a bad pill and you think "I really want to dance right now, I love the idea of dancing, but nothing on earth is gonna get me off this couch right now..." That point of relaxation where you become supremely supine.

So in this context "desultory" for me means a certain gesture or allusion towards a party that cannot work itself up to inhabiting a full-blown party mindset (else, wouldn't we just play straight disco etc?) because inaction is sufficiently satiating.

Compare/contrast with the disco-punk revivalism of a few years ago, which had a precisely opposite relationship to disco - it was too pent-up, couldn't relax enough to just go with the flow, let alone lie down on the sand.

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

xp jimmy i meant mostly just the 70s cosmic american crosby-phillips-young-buckingham-nicks axis, the overlap btw. that 70s thread & the balearic thread basically--i mean i dont know that id call studio beardo beach hippies anyway--beardo beach maybe, but the hippie bit of what tim is asking makes me think of the 70s

i have a difft set of theories about why swedes are so good at balearica but i have to leave work now

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

haha studio is a little metropolitan, listening to buckingham nicks on the drive to vegas was pretty epic i must admit

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

That point of relaxation where you become supremely supine.

^^ not to make light of addiction, but i wonder if a lot of these LA cats tended to make good 'desultory' shit because a lot of them were into heroin in a big way

max, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I got to admit that I sort of wish that Disco had become more of a big thing in Laurel Canyon.

Maybe it was just too insular back in the late 70s, not much from outside seemed to make a dent.

But then I really like the idea of Yacht Disco, so maybe thats just my thing.

Smacked out studio musicians playing lazy music with superb chops. Yup.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Its entirely possible that I've listened to Gaucho more than is healthy for any one person though.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah I think the important thing to stress here is that we're dealing with a continuum here that (I think Max correctly suggests) has one foot planted in "americana" and one foot planted in "balearica". And these aren't mutually exclusive terms but I think they define the state of play, in which all sorts of varying articulations can occur. Max's bio stuff seems to fit the americana end, definitely, though I'm hardly one to judge.

Another way to put the above is that this continuum stretches from a very rooted sense of geography at one end to a very internationalist, escapist idealized vision at the other. One thing I like about the term "yacht rock" is the fact that it implies a sense of placelessness - quite obviously, yachts aren't tied to the land, they can go anywhere. Yacht rock and balearic are different things, but they share that impulse I think, and that sense of upper-middle-class "global village" syncretic fusionism that I think really begins in the 80s (though there's a few 70s antecedents).

And the music that I think defines the core of the continuum-canon I'm trying to sketch out is the stuff that sets the two polar impulses off against each other, dialectically as it were - one difference between The Band and Fleetwood Mac for me is that the former seem totally, er, geographical, whereas Fleetwood Mac seem both "of a place" and "internationalist", they turn their geographical particularism into a universal. But you could run it the other way: maybe Studio and other Swedish bands are the anti-Fleetwood Mac, in that they turn an apparent geographical universalism (in their music) into a byword for "Sweden".

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The covers of DJ Harvey's (bootlegged?) Sonic Disco DJ mix series are pretty telling:

http://img02.shop-pro.jp/PA01009/066/product/1612857.jpg

http://www.zona.ws/uploads/posts/1165495829_dj_harvey__sonic_disco_2.jpg

Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

the jack nitzsche solo stuff that came out a few years back called "three piece suite" is def in this category. surprised i haven't heard much talk about it on ilm, maybe i missed a thread

velko, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

The narrative that I'd like to hear in a mix of this stuff is roughly:

Yacht sets sail in the Bermudas in the late 70s loaded to the gills with models and playboys, blow and champagne.

Finds a mysterious hole in the fabric of space time, and is mysteriously shunted forward into 1988, right off the coast of Ibiza.

Sort of going from international waters into deep space and then back to the beach.

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Alright, I'm only sharing this because I really like everyone in this thread.

If I was going to do that mix, I'd start with this song.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/5010660562548279/

Recorded in California but from an band from Illinois.

The Ship - The Ship, The Order

Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

WTF I don't see any connection between any of these things. But the first thing that came to mind for me was Summer Breeze (Seals and Crofts) which is mellow and smooth but also creepy and weird, to me anyway

akm, Monday, 20 October 2008 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.101apparel.com/_2008SUMMER/t-shirts/balearic_kelly.jpg

haha we got people making balearic t- shirts now !!!

oscar, Monday, 20 October 2008 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

So where does a band like High Llamas fit in this conversation?

Moodles, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

JD feels your pain

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Another way to put the above is that this continuum stretches from a very rooted sense of geography at one end to a very internationalist, escapist idealized vision at the other. One thing I like about the term "yacht rock" is the fact that it implies a sense of placelessness - quite obviously, yachts aren't tied to the land, they can go anywhere. Yacht rock and balearic are different things, but they share that impulse I think, and that sense of upper-middle-class "global village" syncretic fusionism that I think really begins in the 80s (though there's a few 70s antecedents).

^^ this is a dope idea that helps put into place some things ive been thinking abt balearica.

what interests me most though--and i think u point toward this, or are saying it in a slightly different way--is the interplay btw the placenessless/rootlessness of the stuff (in the specific sense of, lets say, lacking definite coordinates) vs. the serious dependence on, i dont know how to put this, but, like, geographical zone? or something? by which i mean: beaches, obviously. or, you know, The Beach. i dont know if that makes sense! but im into the way that balearica taps into a this cosmopolitan/internationalist fantasy of never being tied down, whether its boating around on ur yacht or jetting from island to island for beach parties--while still being totally dependent on a very specific *kind* of place, i.e., The Beach. so its sort of internationalist in a very narrow sense--the music doesnt imply the frozen tundra or, like, the desert, or uh, stonehenge, or whatever. (i think btw that this dual sense of rootlessness/rootedness is intrinsic to the idea of the ocean and the beach and sailing in general--complete and utter freedom to go wherever you want, as long as that place is a port, and i think that the fact that balearica taps into the same feeling is part of why its so successful at evoking those ideas/places/practices)

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

what is interesting to me (as a geographical literalist who only wants to interpret musical production around the framework of climate zone) is how swedes and brits and dudes from the bay area, none of whom have proper beaches, are cranking out the best 'balearica' around. but i guess the answer to that is sort of apparent--if balearica requires a certain placelessness (and i think thats true in particular of the 'nu'-balearica of the last 3-4 years) it is probably advantageous to have no beach-y tropical art forms around that will influence and make specific your far more 'general' Beach music.

i am not sure that i believe any of what i am saying about why artists from some places are making certain specific types of music but i enjoy doing it as a thought experiment, and i have to say that it seems particularly 'right' to do so when talking about so much of this--its weirdly difficult to have a conversation about studio, say, without talking about how theyre from sweden

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

good beach music from germany too

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/25/Boney_M._-_Oceans_Of_Fantasy_%281979%29.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that for me this music is almost purely escapism, I've only been to LA a couple of times and they were two very short visits.

As someone who lives a fantasy life through music the reverse slumming of listening to music that was explicitly upper class can be sort of freeing.

That and I live in the center of the North America and coastal beaches are in short supply here.

Its interesting that you choose the Band as an example of specifically regional music Tim, seeing as they were a Canadian band making music heavily indebted to a rural and mostly Southern experience. The Dead were similarly very far away from the Ozarks from which they derived so much of their sound. But yes, Fleetwood Mac took that a step farther (UK band making music that was sort of a cosmopolitan synthesis of blues and country and arguably some soul). Almost all of these Californian bands who went so stylishly rural in the 70s had very little to do with the experiences made reference to in their music. Except for some very specific cases like Gene Clark or Gram Parsons.

I feel that the yacht sound was more honest, it at least sounded like California, like privilege and wealth.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Its interesting that you choose the Band as an example of specifically regional music Tim, seeing as they were a Canadian band making music heavily indebted to a rural and mostly Southern experience. The Dead were similarly very far away from the Ozarks from which they derived so much of their sound. But yes, Fleetwood Mac took that a step farther (UK band making music that was sort of a cosmopolitan synthesis of blues and country and arguably some soul). Almost all of these Californian bands who went so stylishly rural in the 70s had very little to do with the experiences made reference to in their music. Except for some very specific cases like Gene Clark or Gram Parsons.

i was actually going to mention this! cause the thing about "cosmic american music" or "americana" is that at the level of "AMERICA" is way totally rootless/placeless--i mean thats why its called "americana" instead of "country western" or "appalachian" or wvr! except that--tim is from stupid australia, so at a global level "americana" is pretty specific and geographically limited.

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

ha you know what fits into this thread? brightblack morning light.

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

hippie-ass-rootless-american-beardo-codeine-funk

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

they are from the south! though they do live in the desert now. and are happy to be rooted there.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i do like the idea that they made their new album using only solar power. they are funny hippies.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

in that arthur interview i just read, brightblack dude goes on about how he doesn't like people using phony southern accents when they sing.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i know! they're from rural louisiana (or at least the dude is) and then they started making music smokin a ton of weed in huntingdon county and then moved down to the desert! rootless!

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

haha the dude has a major LA accent

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

uh LA there means louisiana

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Brightblack's first album really made me wonder why no one picked it up and remixed it.

Maybe its just too stoned and too slow, but I was listening to a lot of dubstep and disco when it came out so it made sense to me.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

is it sort of hard for anyone else to link balearic and beardo so easily? kind of like sonny crockett hanging out with chong or something?

winston, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:02 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess i'm still thinking of beardo as that harvey "mad dog chronicles" and led zepellin but that thread is kind of all over the place...

winston, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.8ballrecords.it/database/database_public/img/GERRY-RAFFERTY-CITY-TO-CITY.jpg

also this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51B91V046XL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

which i think was actually recorded at a desultory beach party. liner notes:

So here we were --
singing for a small crowd that
stood so far away
we couldn't see their faces clearly,
so -- not worrying about it --
playing pretty much for ourselves,
having some fun in Florida --
performing in a tiki hut (!) --
mandarin orange slices with almonds,
fresh fish,
a big condo all to ourselves with a
washing machine in the very building --
The Rough Squirrels and I enjoyed this gig and on a
return engagement decided to get a tape machine rolling --
these are some of the highlights --
purely for your pleasure --
Here's your Pizza!

P.S. The real words to the first line of
the first verse of "Samson and Delilah" are
"I'm-uh ease your mind an' tell you
where to find the best salon."
The second verse is supposed to start with
"Donna's gonna graduate an' Katy's
got a date -- Alright!"

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

does bob welch fit here, or is that too slick? fleetwood mac connection tho

velko, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

also, some nilsson. possibly all nilsson. definitely this nilsson:

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:54 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost. welch totally fits. check this track? slick, and wonderful
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Let-Me-Fall/dp/B0017QQAE6

and this one is totally driving, bearded rock

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 04:56 (fifteen years ago) link

"tim is from stupid australia"

Yeah we have no clue. Even our one big country singer is called Keith URBAN.

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry i seem to have dragged this thread into "max has fantasies about sweden and los angeles"

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

stuff from the 70s thread that does NOT fit this: the beau brummels & the byrds

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:37 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe some rick roberts solo stuff? burrito bros probably not. maybe firefall

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

siah and max's points about the imaginariness of americana are interesting. I guess you could say that americana is like a fascimile of realness where balearica is like a photocopy of a photocopy on an order of infinite regress. Which I imagine is what siah is getting at when he commends the "honesty" of "yacht rock". It's the honesty of faking so real u are beyond fake.

Tim F, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

what beardo's listen when it's raining and they can't get to the beach:

http://www.whiskeyexperience.co.nz/music/images/m/Martyn,%20John%20-%20Bless%20The%20Weather.jpg

caek, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

apostrophe catastrophe

caek, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Haven't read this thread all the way through, but would "In The Skies" by Peter Green qualify?

Discordian, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't want to come off all mike taylor about this, but let's try to keep one foot firmly rooted in reality. i've lived most of my life within sight of the ocean. in fact right now i live close enough that i can hear the waves on the beach. the "geographical literalist" argument makes no sense to me. practically nobody here listens to this kind of music. surfers listen to jam bands (like dave matthews, jack johnson or tortoise), indie rock (modest mouse, ratatat), rap music (conscious or not), new punk and AOR reggae (marley family offshoots). if they listen to 70s music its likely to be stones, sabbath or bowie rather than freak-folky obscurity.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

jokes bruv

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

lol tho vahid one of my posts above had "i should stop before vahid jumps on me for just making shit up" but i edited it out

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not trying to deny that it's interesting to try to sketch out an "imaginary genre" here but i just don't want anybody thinking that this is some sort of california cultural phenomenon or anything like that.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

back to suggestions

bobby brown's 'The Enlightening Beam Of Axonda'

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61GH2KN4C9L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

OMG YES

i just bought the reissue on sundazed last week and i was thinking of adding it to this thread before i decided to rant

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

xxp i think ive made it clear that im not trying to account for anything outside of my head here; that the blog-ass ramblings above are mostly half-hearted attempts to articulate my own, uh, i dont know, like, 'spiritual' or 'psychic' relationship to this music and what it represents in terms of places that ive lived and visited.

that being said i do think that a sense of place, or lack thereof, is at stake in a big way w/r/t much of the music being discussed here--both on the strictly formal level insofar as a lot of it involves the wrangling of quite culturally/geographically specific musics and on the more, like, cultural level where its produced and received as a piece of the tropics, from or for or out of the beach.

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

xp actually it was on akarma, not sundazed.

though that's not really "beach party" in the sense of dancing around a bonfire ... it's more like the sound of hippies lying in the sand with their heads touching and their feet forming a star, watching for comets while frying.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i dunno max, on one level what you're saying about geography makes perfect sense and i am sympathetic to it, on the other it sounds a bit like arguing that "music for airports" is actually about airports, or best understood in terms of thinking about airports. which it might be, come to think of it ...

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i think the geographic thing makes perfect sense and if you are a cerebral music nerd living next to the ocean it makes sense that it informs your listening habits. that's speaking 100% from experience (i live a block away from the pacific next to some beaches that are naturally very intense and wild).

tricky, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps we can continue both the thought experiment and suggestions?

only because i am curious as to how both max and siah view this music or freedom of location/this sense of placelessness somehow correlates with a particular fantasy of wealth or upper class lifestyle. maybe this is the most truly American attribute to the contextualization of this music because unless i remember incorrectly, the balearic sound derives from the music played on the paradise-like balearic isles in the 1970s when they were inhabited by loads of hippies who did nothing but walk around nude all day and go to dance parties at night listening to this music. in this sense i think the music relates to the island paradise driven concept of escapism which now permeates many americans' fantasies of escaping (or maybe just me, siah, and max). that this music is somehow now contextualized as upper class though is interesting because at first i had trouble fitting the whole "hippie" label into this pseudo-genre which i, given my urban perspective on the music, took to be much more cosmopolitan. now i'm rambling as well...

for a suggestion, the new Woolfy vs. Projections album The Astral Projections Of Starlight is quite beautiful with beachy guitars and dreamy vocals but then again it fits into my more cosmopolitan version of a balearic beardo hippie beach canon

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

One track has been posted to 20JFG here

http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/2008/10/15/a-post-so-smooth-it-could-be-made-of-baby-skin/#comments

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

balearic is kind of like rockism in that I have only seen those two godforsaken words on this webpage

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm kinda interested in the Scandinavian/Kraut/European side of this spectrum, esp. considering the fact that E2-E4 loosely fits this vibe (Gottsching was sooooo a hippie). There has to be more in this vein...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/258081144_081a7a6cf3.jpg?v=0

Plus, the whole Laurel Canyon-beach vibe you're going for just doesn't make sense to me. Guess I just don't see how the 'beachy' side fits in, especially in "If I Could Only Remember My Name," which has always been about the mountains for me (who cares what the cover looks like). I mean, maybe you're just looking for country-rock made by drug casualties of the '70s, but that starts to veer towards boogie-rock territory or loner-psych, which is way more 'beardo' than 'balearic'.

That being said, what do you think of Jim Ford in this context? Is he on the Americana side of the axis, even though he was notorious for coke-fueled yacht parties and could bust out some seriously funky grooves alongside the honky-tonk?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Yxx2vqHKL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

psychgawsple, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

yacht rockism?

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://images.juno.co.uk/full/CS1360340-02A-BIG.jpg

Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Tuesday, 21 October 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Jim Ford is certainly hard to pin down...I always saw him as more C & W than R & B...he was a notoriously violent drunk, which I always thought explained his predilection toward honky-tonk...he also always claimed to be the true author of "Ode To Billy Joe"...

henry s, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

re jim ford: hmmm, don't know if he fits, the funkier tunes maybe get close??
some great tunes on that either way
xpost

velko, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Some more suggestions, possibly slightly too Dad Rock, maybe not beachy enough.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/515BhRBIt%2BL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

http://www.musicdirect.com/shared/images/products/large/crhi78274-2.jpg

And no I'm really not kidding about that Doobie album, its basically Gaucho with Michael McDonald singing.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i love that little feat album

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

And this is for Tim as He's looking for stuff in the Santana line of thinking.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VAFDS0RVL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

http://www.zshare.net/audio/501517708612833b/

Gypsy - Gypsy Queen Pt. 1

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Max you're totally right about Shawn Phillips BTW. So much of his stuff would fit on this thread.

Let me dig around a bit.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

hey what about that mike simonetti "balearic sabbath" mix from earlier this year? all 70s shit i believe.

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

get it here: http://www.allez-allez.co.uk/2007/08/mike-simonetti.html

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess that runs a little more toward r&b than it does toward the kind of americana stuff thats popping up here (despite opening w/ buckingham/nicks) but its a spiritual cousin!

max, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

And a lot of the stuff that Jaxon mentioned has been included in Kosmiche Kid's Cosmic Dancing Mixes.

http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?p=308560

Which I was completely unaware of until this thread, thanks Jaxon for inspiring the google.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

the idea is that there definitely seems to be a loose canon emerging which stretches from David Crosby (but perhaps not CS&N per se) through to say Arthur Russell.

wrong. check out Dark Star

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

as far as santana, some of his beardier releases are Welcome (produced by alice coltrane and leon thomas on vocals)

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/dre800/e876/e8769171tkg.jpg

and Love Devotion Surrender with john mclaughlin and is a tribute to john coltrane (so heavy and sooo sooo soo beautiful)

http://www.jazz.com/assets/2008/1/26/albumcoverJohnMcLaughlin-CarlosSantana-LoveDevotionSurrender.jpg

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at cosmology at 1:00 in dark star video

caek, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Just thinking about San Frandisco's question.

I suppose I see Yacht Rock as upper class because that was its image I guess, rock stars sailing out to international waters to have parties. And as poor as I am the Balearic islands might as well be on Mars. I've never been to Europe and unless the factory I work at suddenly gives me a 6 dollar an hour raise I very likely will never go there. Cheap dollar bin records (or very obscure psych ones) are a readily accessible commodity where yachts and international vacations are out of reach.

Rural america on the other hand is something I have a far too intimate a knowledge of to think of as escapist. A couple of years in the country gave me a great Southern rock collection, but it almost drove me out of my mind. I've got no desire to go back to living with ex Meth addicts so that I can round out my Americana collection.

Here's some Shawn Phillips.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/50154308677b8d28/

For a folkie, he sure brought the funk sometimes.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link

the shawn phillips album Spaced is a bunch of his outtakes that are all jazz funked out. tons of rhodes and breaks. even has a dj shadow sample on it

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/7859/o68602dl2.jpg

jaxon, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Sounds tasty.

Someone needs to do a Venn diagram so I know how this all fits in with rare groove, acid jazz, etc.

For example, is the Azymuth album Balearic?

Is it Rare Groove? Is it Cosmic Disco?

I guess its definitely not hippie Beardo, but it fits in a lot of these categories.

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Oops misspelled that, I meant the Azimuth album. Not the stuff that they did as Azymuth.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000KB1Y1S.01-A3HKN0V35GPHDY._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V37305148_.jpg

Siah Alan, Tuesday, 21 October 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

joe 40oz (deej), Wednesday, 22 October 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Shuggie Otis a hippie? Balearic?

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 22 October 2008 05:02 (fifteen years ago) link

he's from la so i guess so

winston, Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Tusk, obv

winston, Thursday, 23 October 2008 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm kinda interested in the Scandinavian/Kraut/European side of this spectrum

mebbe a couple of the less psych-y more rockin' Pekka Streng tracks.

wilter, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

in that regard, what about that alf emil eik guy that's on lindstrom's late night tales?

winston, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd also be interested in any Australian suggestions coz i got nothing.

wilter, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I had a great pizza and bottle of wine tonight and the restaurant played tusk and I thought of this thread. so tusk.

caek, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Flash and the Pan have already been suggested, wilter.

Tim F, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:51 (fifteen years ago) link

oh yeah!

wilter, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually downloaded the self-titled Dingoes album just to see if it fit in here, it doesn't really lol.

wilter, Thursday, 23 October 2008 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link

brennan green played a mental as anything track on beats in space once

Deep House, M.D. (haitch), Thursday, 23 October 2008 02:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Whatever the first track is on the Västkustska Ryggdunkarsällskapet mix for 'Cool in the Pool' is pretty fantastic for this thread.

I guess the whole mix is, actually. Pure Scandinavian beachy beardo bliss. Emphasis on the beardo

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, for some reason I had never heard this until someone mentioned it in a related post...

http://www.batini.com/sales/cd/canflowmotion.jpg

I didn't know Can got so Polynesian ha. It's so great because they fail at the Steely Dan thing but in their own amazing way

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 03:39 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe (ahem) jan akkerman's oil in the family?
middle eastern guitars vs disco beat etc etc

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 October 2008 07:22 (fifteen years ago) link

back home I listened again to it and, under the carelessly flat production and the cheesy sound, there's still beautifully summery in it - but maybe its just me.
big in turkey, apparently.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 October 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, listen to some earlier akkerman. gets rid of all that shitty smooth production

jaxon, Thursday, 23 October 2008 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I have this one too: but in that case, shitty smooth production is okay for me! : )

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 October 2008 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Really love that Pekka Streng and Tasavallan Presidentti album, looking forward to finding more from Streng-- thanks for the reccomendation.

From a completely different angle...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/618JMTSC8WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the kind of thread that my wallet can't stand!

poortheatre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

??http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/cherry_don~_brownrice_101b.jpg??

poortheatre, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say yes, esp. the title track.
And what about Gary Burton's "Vibrafinger"?

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Surely a bunch of ECM stuff (Metheny, Tibbets, Eberhard Weber)

P'zone, Thursday, 23 October 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

<img src = http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5125K29V55L._SL500_AA240_.jpg>;

^^^^ JJ Cale's "Naturally," (among other LPs by him)... it's perhaps a little obvious, but necessary

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

oops

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5125K29V55L._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

this is the kind of thread that my wallet can't stand!

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

...isn't most of this stuff in the dollar bins? I thought that was kind of the point, but I guess it's all relative to your region/local record stores

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

also, where should I start with the ECM albums? Never was too big on Jarrett, but ECM has huuuuge and intimidatingly awesome-looking catalog.

I guess Azimuth was mentioned

psychgawsple, Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Pat Metheny - First Circle

P'zone, Thursday, 23 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41HNMG7ER5L._SS500_.jpg

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 October 2008 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Plus, the whole Laurel Canyon-beach vibe you're going for just doesn't make sense to me. Guess I just don't see how the 'beachy' side fits in, especially in "If I Could Only Remember My Name," which has always been about the mountains for me (who cares what the cover looks like).

Well, I think that record concerns both beach + mountain. Mt. Tamalpais, Big Sur, that whole vibe...and l.a. winding canyons

For that matter, where do nineties+ revivalists like these guys and their offshoots fit in?
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-876173-1168133506.jpeg

As far as ppl consciously making very explicitly "beach" vibe records, ya gotta take these guys into account, right?

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-876173-1168133506.jpeg

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

oh goddamnit, i need to fix this balls image link. fucking internet

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

For that matter, where do nineties+ revivalists like these guys and their offshoots fit in?

As far as ppl consciously making very explicitly "beach" vibe records, ya gotta take these guys into account, right?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2967347627_8427e6f398.jpg?v=0

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Cool thread, though. The geography+music thing, which I'm assuming must have been discussed previously on ilm, is something that I think about often.

Quick thoughts along those lines:
a. I always thought sixties l.a. scene (beach boys, byrds, love, etc.) blew away its bay area counterpart, but in recent years i've come to soak up and more fully appreciate northern ca goodness like sly stone, grateful dead, the jefferson airplanes...
b. maybe much of l.a. music wow-dom is due to the ambition factor- ppl historically have gone there to "make it"...and/or some of them end up playing in highly "professionalized" environments as studio musicians-- hence you end up with yr "yacht rock" acts, etc...by contrast, nocal is more "laid-back" for real, and so stuff comes out of there that lacks the chart-making urgency that l.a. stuff has. this is a theory with millions of holes in it, but i'm throwing it out there nonetheless
c. when i lived near the beach i paradoxically had less interest than usual in the kind of music that is the subject of this thread, but both before and after, being fairly landlocked back east i have found myself with a renewed appreciation for this kind of stuff
d. i never delved properly into rickie lee jones' catalog until i moved back east, but now that i'm here, without exception every time that i listen to her, i am immediately transported back to california. that seems weird to me
e. i have been reading lots lately about the history of seventies porn films in southern california/sf/nyc. i'm wondering if there are musical analogues to this phenomenon? i'm inclined to think "yes"-- the way ppl talk about the nyc films vs west coast reminds me of ppl talking about vu vs golden state "hippies"

del (dell), Thursday, 23 October 2008 23:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I think that record concerns both beach + mountain. Mt. Tamalpais, Big Sur, that whole vibe...and l.a. winding canyons

omg i have hella listed to that album so many times on highway 1. the beach + mountains equation seems to be a large part of what this thread is going for

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

That's awesome. Seriously.

Yeah, I've always been a passenger when I was on journeys along those lines, and it was always some situation where I was in a car in which the stereo was busted or the equivalent thereof.

That being said, as unlikely as it may sound, early Scott Walker served me well traversing the Marin headlands...and also, one of my best memories of hearing "Eight Miles High" was when driving south towards SFO airport territory and seeing a huge bank of fog eclipsing the water.

In short, I am deep green with envy as far as it concerns being able to soak in these musics in their proper contexts. Like, smoke up and drive across the Bixby bridge or go do it up on some beach thereabouts while listening to "Draft Morning" or some such. I think it's worthwhile to do, even if only in the spirit of experimentation as far as concerns these music/geography nexuses.

del (dell), Friday, 24 October 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd like to know more about what those crazy hippies were listening to in Ibiza or Goa before the whole balearic style emerged...

http://www.goagil.com/albums/Scrapbook/OLD_GOA_2.sized.jpg

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 03:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Alt-F "Danny O'Keefe"

:(

http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lp801ea9.jpg

I heard the great whales crying,
saying, "Brother, brother, we are dying."

nippevenette (unregistered), Friday, 24 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5928/lp801ea9.jpg

nippevenette (unregistered), Friday, 24 October 2008 06:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Does this thing fit in here somewhere?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/493414410_5d1852d241.jpg

I can't really look at the thread title without the pictures of the freaks in the gatefold popping into my head to the tune of 'Pali Gap'. There's that whole globe-trotting jetting-off-to-a-hippie-beach-party vibe in the (terrible) film too.

NickB, Friday, 24 October 2008 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe much of l.a. music wow-dom is due to the ambition factor- ppl historically have gone there to "make it"...and/or some of them end up playing in highly "professionalized" environments as studio musicians-- hence you end up with yr "yacht rock" acts, etc...by contrast, nocal is more "laid-back" for real, and so stuff comes out of there that lacks the chart-making urgency that l.a. stuff has. this is a theory with millions of holes in it, but i'm throwing it out there nonetheless

OTM I think - one of the things that links IICORMN and No Other (see poll thread), as well as Forever Changes (Beach Boys too, come to think of it) is the odd disjunctive MOR associations you get with each - The odd Anita Kerr harmonies on Tamalpais ....on the Crosby records, the no quite schmaltz of Strength of Strings, the Herb Alpert-ness of Clark and Hilldale....

sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe those associations only seem odd because we've been fed this myth about the 60s, about how them cool hippies and folkies were against pop and Hollywood schmaltz. But in reality, American folk and pop have always been inextricably linked.

That said, I don't think this applies to the Beach Boys. They grew up in the pop realm.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 24 October 2008 14:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Good point.
The individual Byrds pre- careers are exemplary in this respect

sonofstan, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Totally. And it even extends to the Bay Area. Before Marty Balin was a folkie, he was a teen actor/singer who dug Tony Bennett. At the time, that seemed bizarre. But listen to some of Balin's great ballads with the Jefferson Airplane, and you realize the guy is a great crooner, who understood classic Tin Pan Alley singing.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 24 October 2008 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Huh. Cool, I don't think I've ever made all of those connections, and even if I had, probably would not have been able to articulate them in the fashion that you guys have done here.

Marty Balin, wow. I have such a weakness for some of the Starship-era stuff-- Miracles, Count on Me, Runaway... I guess Scott was comparing some of that stuff to Chris Rea upthread, but I'm not sure that I hear it. The near seven-minute version of Miracles, for one, never fails me. Fool if You Think it's Over, by contrast, sounds like yr standard issue Benny Mardones-ish yacht-rock material.

Runaway is saddled with a godawful bridge that I can't listen to without cringing, but otherwise, me love the MB.

del (dell), Friday, 24 October 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

All this So-Cal vs. Nor-Cal talk makes me want to post a gem from this guy...

http://therisingstorm.net/audio/mu-300x300.jpg

Merrell Fankhauser is the mannn. He purportedly invented the riff for "Wipeout," then became obsessed with Hawaii and it's mythology and made this album with dudes from Beefheart's band.

And he's from CENTRAL CA, aka Arroyo Grande, aka halfways between SF and LA. And this album rules--though perhaps a bit on the proggy end of this spectrum--it totally fits.

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

He still hosts the most hilarious cable-access show in that area, called Merrell Fankhauser's Tiki Lounge. His wife tapes it in their living room(!), and I was lucky enough to be there when he interviewed Swedish psych band Dungen . I think they sorta started their association that led to these rereleases on Dungen's Subliminal Sounds label...

http://www.subliminalsounds.se/DOK/merrellfankhauser.html

That was the most awkward interview ever, btw. "What's your name and what instrument do you play?..." followed by broken english, etc.

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Mu is the "lost continent" aka what some people call Hawaii (where dude lives now). straight up hippy beach music. i posted a song from that album ("Eternal Thirst") to my site. sounds like tim buckley on vocals and jeff cotton of beefhart's magic band on slide guitar. there's a crazy long percussion breakdown with weird ass chanting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(lost_continent)

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

holy crap. look at this! this is the most balearic beardo beach hippy video ever!

jaxon, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

seriously, that video pwns this thread

"nobody wants to shine" has an incredible bassline, too

psychgawsple, Friday, 24 October 2008 23:11 (fifteen years ago) link

just wanted to reiterate how fucking amazing Terry Reid's Seed Of Memory is. by far my favorite album of his (even though i love all the stuff i've heard by him) and it totally fits in this thread. funked out folk rock w/a bit of twang.

http://robotsinheat.com/trax/OohBaby.mp3

jaxon, Saturday, 25 October 2008 01:10 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a mix from dirk of eskimo recordings on lovefingers that's all balearock/funky/folky/classic rock. Great stuff.

http://www.lovefingers.org/mp3/dirk.mp3

Think there's also another one on beats in space worth searching for.

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

but part of me thinks that what makes crosby and phillips and f'wood mac "fit" fairly easily under the umbrella of "balearica" and acts like the band and the dead (and feel free to disagree with me, anyone) fit far less easily under that same umbrella is some kind of interestingly-felt relationship with the beach or the idea of "beach" that LA has and SF doesnt.

just wanted to point out (as brought to light here:No Other V If I could Only Remember My Name) that the grateful dead theyselfs made a large part of crosby's best album. So there was a lot of the same stuff going on, and I think the dead actually made some albums that would be perfect for this thread.

but you're dead on about la being oriented much more towards the beach. i duno if it manifests itself in a genre that is concerned with being rural in nature, however.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean la as a city, by the way, not as a musical entity. and country/americana is what i'm referring to by 'a genre that is concerned with being rural in nature'

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Just had a brainstorm, it doesn't have even the slightest amount of twang in it though.

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7811/b00000250l01sclzzzzzzzmb6.jpg

Its about as hippie as funk gets without being Sly.

Check the title track.

Siah Alan, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 03:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Check out Linda Perhcas,Parallelograms. Doesn't cut it on the beardo part (and perhaps not the balearic part)but it's pretty damn boss on all other fronts.
http://music.geocities.jp/viennagarden/parallelograms.jpg

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Um, make that Perhacs

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

well perhacs i will check it out....

max, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

she does live in hawaii if that makes it fit in the thread

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

great, great album btdubs

jaxon, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

is "balearic" just the self-aware Other Music-goer's way of looking down on people that jumped on the "yacht rock" thing?

Whiney G. Torture Garden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

its a term we made up to make you annoyed

max, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Does yacht rock presuppose dinghy rock?

mottdeterre, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a few Perhacs tracks that almost work, but that record is way too intimate to be included here, and I feel it has a certain English folk formalist vibe to it that is decidedly un-balearic. But it is a great record indeed.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 29 October 2008 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

nobody has used the word "oceanicity" yet :-/

my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Wednesday, 29 October 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

played 80s trivial pursuit this weekend and had the question asker scoff and say "you are SOOOOO never going to get this,,, name a zurich born harpist that was listed in three US billboard charts in 1984."

i got up and threw my Andreas Vollenweider record in his face!

i can't remember the question, but the same thing happened when they asked about the william hurt film gorky park. the soundtrack's epic, assholes!

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd also like to point out this jean michel jarre video. he plays a stack of synthesizers on the beach!

(jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:51 (fifteen years ago) link

in my opinion the underpraised-in-recent-years Tranquility Bass album should be on this list

J0hn D., Wednesday, 17 December 2008 06:52 (fifteen years ago) link

hahahaha jaxon i hope you stormed out after that

beyonc'e (max), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 11:45 (fifteen years ago) link

never got into the album, but the Tranquility Bass singles and comp tracks, the ones on the Exist Dance Transmitting from Heaven CD, are total classic.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://www.starsend.org/graphics/mgtropicalheat.jpg

I've been avoiding this album for a long time since I kept on hearing that this was Ashra's low point, but given it's balearic sounding title (Tropical Heat) and it's Gottsching I figured it's worth a listen. It's not nearly as bad as I anticipated. I'm not sure if this would be the right thread to post this in, but I'm surprised this album hasn't been reconsidered (maybe it really is that bad) or at least mentioned*.

*the search function turned up nothing

bmus, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ennMD1fPtXA

herb albert, Tuesday, 25 August 2009 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link

This remains one of my favorite ILX threads.

On the Herb Alpert tip: his disc with Hugh Masekela has got some lovely stuff on it.

Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Monday, 31 August 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit is that the sample on the beginning of Biggie's Hypnotize?

send a hilarious message or make a "wild" statement (Whitey on the Moon), Monday, 31 August 2009 03:37 (fourteen years ago) link

yess indeed... wasn't it the theme to general hospital or something as well?

winston, Monday, 31 August 2009 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

today is a good day for a desultory beach party

psychgawsple, Saturday, 24 October 2009 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

those are credit stephd.biz btw

i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

http://stephd.biz/gifs/5/peacock.gif

i got nothin (deej), Saturday, 24 October 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

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This record is so this thread......

sonofstan, Sunday, 20 December 2009 20:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Oops...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu2bT-yEiWc

sonofstan, Sunday, 20 December 2009 22:52 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wbumIKJJ0

Fahrvergnügent (herb albert), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link

that batteaux record is great. this is the track of theirs to get. Mirror. so amazing
http://www.divshare.com/download/9846879-0a2

i have a paul horn record where they cover High Tide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxRvI6k4nPI

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

awesome revive. was hoping we could get this thread going with some recommendations again, feel free to disagree with the following...

steve winwod - arc of a diver. if you can get with his voice there are some great tunes on here, "spanish dancer" especially
http://p.dada.net/cspv/59-10-68-10-00-MetaPreview-Cover-JPEG256x256/steve-winwood/arc-of-a-diver.jpg

yello - claro que si. a lot of yello songs are just ott balearic, i think this record has more of that vibe than the others (disagreements welcome). they don't exactly scream 'hippie', but some of the early stuff might be cosmic enough to fit. also check "blue green" from the record before this one, also on ralph
http://www.musicline.de/cover/Yello_Claro+Que+Si_602498307564.jpg

little river band - s/t 1975. real surprised nobody has mentioned them here yet. "it's a long way there" is a pretty ideal fit for this thread imo
http://bigpondmusic.com/images/AlbumCoverArt/117/L/Little-River-Band2.jpg

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

does Roxy Music's "Like A Hurricane" fit here? Kinda?

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 20:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ya, the 12" of Steve Winwood's Night train from that album has an instrumental and i've seen harvey and rub'n'tug play it

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

would like to hear that instrumental, you mentioned it once before iirc. are there any instrumentals of the joe cocker stuff on island? that would be similarly awesome.

and xp- i think roxy music fits, esp if we're talking about a neil young cover

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, it's the neil young song. sounds like Studio sort of.

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

http://robotsinheat.com/temp/Night%20Train%20(Inst).mp3

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

when this gets going, it kills me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkUbw9fFEe4

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

my record collection needs more tri atma, reminds me of my favorite kitaro tracks. tho maybe it's more fit for a revive of that 'global village syncretic fusionism' thread (which could use a revive anyway, imo)

btw i think this thread is the reason i got hooked on ilm. cheesy but true.

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a copy of that Little River Band LP at a market stall near me.... all the encouragement i need.

sonofstan, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

has there been any john martyn posted in the thread? if not, there should be. i've been buying his later albums and they are always amazing and as they get smoother, get more balearic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLVM560Fok

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:29 (fourteen years ago) link

^ not necessarily that one. that one's more on the hippy beach part of it. but he uses cheap drum machines and is produced at Compass Point and even worked with lee perry

jaxon, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link

"hole in the rain" is ill

max, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i just watched that john martyn clip on youtube like 30 mins before jaxon posted. totally weird that he hasn't been mentioned much here

psychgawsple, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

played 80s trivial pursuit this weekend and had the question asker scoff and say "you are SOOOOO never going to get this,,, name a zurich born harpist that was listed in three US billboard charts in 1984."

i got up and threw my Andreas Vollenweider record in his face!

i can't remember the question, but the same thing happened when they asked about the william hurt film gorky park. the soundtrack's epic, assholes!

― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Wednesday, December 17, 2008 1:50 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this story still makes me lol for some reason

max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

man i must have been so stoned upthread

max, Thursday, 4 March 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OY1OlKOIiU

hobbes, Thursday, 4 March 2010 02:47 (fourteen years ago) link

jaxon, can you re-up the winwood track? if not here, then elsewhere...

beta blog, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

reuploaded. for some reason my server was acting crazy yesterday

jaxon, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

can't believe I never looked at this thread properly until now...really nice music thanks guys

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 7 March 2010 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

loving Batteaux's "Mirror" and the Winwood track

dmr, Sunday, 7 March 2010 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I love that Ned Doheny song. Hard Candy and Prone are two albums worth tracking down. His self titled album is my favorite, but it's more west coast country rock than Balearic.

Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 7 March 2010 17:36 (fourteen years ago) link

king of impossible to find, or so i've seen. there are also Tata Vega and Average White Band covers of that song.

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

nerve pylon posted the loggins messina album cover upthread, but this song is just so epic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdVFQRn3Emo

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link

also this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oowuyzxgmtg

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a mix from dirk of eskimo recordings on lovefingers that's all balearock/funky/folky/classic rock. Great stuff.
http://www.lovefingers.org/mp3/dirk.mp3
Think there's also another one on beats in space worth searching for.
― jaxon, Wednesday, October 29, 2008 12:45 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is the BIS mix. probably one of my all time faves. so perfectly sequenced and mixed. and with really obvious songs, but it doesn't even matter. so great.

http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/323

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I just found Batteaux self titled on a blog. It fits perfectly what i was needing to hear today. Is this a hard to find record?

Jacob Sanders, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i got mine for $6 at a record fair. haven't really seen it around otherwise. there's an 8track copy on ebay for $2.50

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

posting everywhere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9NJNAMHsdI

jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 22:42 (fourteen years ago) link

X-post to Jacob
Picked up mine for 3 euro - think it's a reissue: there is a few on musicstack for about 10e/$

sonofstan, Monday, 8 March 2010 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Someone up thread mentioned Jim Ford, someone I have only heard of in passing. So I sought out his records this weekend and I found one called Harlan County. I don't see how it fits into this thread at all. But it sure is good. Almost sounds like Don Covay or Swamp Dogg mixed with Billy Swan? Anyway really great album.

Jacob Sanders, Monday, 8 March 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

yea it doesn't really fit with a beachy vibe, but he sure did love yachting and cocaine!

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Are his later recordings different than Harlan County? After listening to this a few times, I keep asking myself is this a subdued Don Covay?

Jacob Sanders, Tuesday, 9 March 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link

i haven't heard everything, but the comps i have seem to indicate that he didn't really switch his style up too incredibly much. does jim ford not have his own thread?

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 9 March 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link

that john martyn clip is killing me

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

this is the BIS mix. probably one of my all time faves. so perfectly sequenced and mixed. and with really obvious songs, but it doesn't even matter. so great.

http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/323

― jaxon, Sunday, March 7, 2010 1:12 PM (2 months ago) Bookmark

i know what u mean, but lol @ the standard for 'obvious' here

Gifted Unlimited Display Names Universal (deej), Monday, 10 May 2010 07:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm a lazy Sid, so I only gave a quick glance to see if these were mentioned.

Lee Hazlewood sorta owns this, though the time period might be a bit off.
John Phillips
Lyme & Cybele [I believe Warren Zevon was Lyme]
Buffy St. Marie
Richie Havens
Fit & Limo

...maybe - if I truly grasped the question. ;-)

ImprovSpirit, Monday, 10 May 2010 12:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Is there still any interest in this genre?

Might this be the ultimate BBBH jam?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXBg7aPUsM

Stay for the whole thing, the vocal/guitar effects are worth it.

Also way into live versions of John Martyn doing "Outside In,' which Lovefingers used in the "1984" track last year. I want to hear more if people have picks.

barry leavitt, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

im still interested

max, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

ill selection, btw

max, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda over nu-balearic (never really got under it tbh), edits and dance music in general, but BBBH is one of those things i just won't tire of.

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

hippie

max, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

tripster

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

beardo

max, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

(xpost ^ i'm a tripster)

harper's 'stormcock' (from where that song comes from) is one of the most amazing records ever.

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link

hats off to that man imo

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I was worried that people had moved on to windsurf funk or christian campfire rock.

barry leavitt, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Admittedly haven't explored Harper that deeply, but will now. Thanks for the tip, Jaxon.

barry leavitt, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link

you posted it!

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

rocked this one this morn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKy2qe5iIpQ

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

and this one (both from the Folk is not a Four Letter Word comp)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isyYxHjRm7w

jaxon, Thursday, 29 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh, ya duh - I just got turned onto to the harper track from some dude's FB page, so I didn't really feel it was "mine." That Heaven & Earth track is nice, can't really get into Koloc's vocals tho.

Has Peter Green been mentioned?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeosPciyU8o
Totally loving vocal fx on these lazzy jams.

barry leavitt, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Someone mentioned Green up there somewhere, but still...

barry leavitt, Thursday, 29 July 2010 21:14 (thirteen years ago) link

one more john martyn just bc seeing that clip upthread was a major revelation for me and i've pretty much watched every live perf. by him on youtube since. this is one of the best ones (all the best ones are from one world imo, can't believe i wasted the first 22 years of my life not listening to it every day)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRv4MnPOBE

plax (ico), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:59 (thirteen years ago) link

^ he wrote that one w/lee perry

jaxon, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i spent a while tryna find other stuff that lee perry did w/ a similar fusion aesthetic but didn't know where to look. Also got no joy on finding another martyn album that had the same spaced out w33d+heatstroke vibe.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRMBZZK0aKI

plax (ico), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:39 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the BIS mix. probably one of my all time faves. so perfectly sequenced and mixed. and with really obvious songs, but it doesn't even matter. so great.

http://www.beatsinspace.net/playlists/323

― jaxon, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:12 (5 months ago)

Loving that mix. Found the following tracklisting with a couple of gaps. Can anyine fill them in?

00 susane christie - paint a lady
04 mindless boogie 2 – tonic edit
10 buckingham nicks - frozen love
17 eagles – those shoes
21 blind faith – can’t find my way home
24 ?
28 seals & croft – sweet green fields (edit)
32 eurythmics - did it just the same
35 ?
38. ? do it to you mama
42 fleetwood mac – world turning
46 womack and womack – love wars
51 supermax – It ain’t easy

Also found Volume 1:Trip to Balearock.mp3:

1. Black Sabbath - Weird Caravan
2. Aphrodite's Child - Aegean Sea
3. Iris Muhammed - Loren's Dance
4. Los Chicharrons - Love Magic (?)
5. C, S, N - Wooden Ships
6. Loggins & Messina - Full Sail
7. The Quiet Village Project - Pillow Talk
8. Flash And The Pan - Hole In The Middle
9.
10.
11.Small faces - Odgen's Nut Gone Flake
12. Animated Egg (also known as 101 Strings) - Sock in My Way
13 Chairman of the Board - Life and Death

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 August 2010 08:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoah. There's a tracklisting over at BiS now. Was that always there? Pretty sure it come's up with 'no playlist' in the Lyrics section of the MP3 which is where Tim usually puts the tracklistings.

1. The Art Of Noise – Paranoimia
2. Susan Christie – Paint A Lady
3. Joe Walsh – County Fair (Tonic Edit)
4. Buckingham & Nicks – Frozen Love
5. The Eagles – Those Shoes
6. Blind Faith – Can't Find My Way Home (Tonic Edit)
7. Black Sabbath – Symptom Of The Universe ( Lexx – Edit)
8. Seals & Crofts – Sweet Green Fields (Tonic Edit)
9. Eurythmics – I Did It Just The Same
10. Nacht Und Nebel – Beats Of Love
11. Jim Capaldi – I'm Gonna Do It
12. Fleetwood Mac – World Turning
13. Womack & Womack – Love Wars
14. Supermax – It Ain't Easy

groovypanda, Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:30 (thirteen years ago) link

fyi (prob more appropriate to the actual beardo disco thread), but belgian group Villa just put out a cover of that Nacht und Nebel "Beats of Love" track from the bis mix. sounds great
http://www.myspace.com/villanese

jaxon, Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

I am really getting into Trip to Balearock, Vol. 1, it's definitely up there with Vol. 2. I found a complete tracklisting.

1. Black Sabbath - Planet Caravan
2. Aphrodite's Child - Aegian Sea
3. Iris Muhammed - Loren's Dance
4. St Tropez - Belle de Jour
5. C, S, N - Wooden Ships
6. Loggins & Messina - Pathway to Glory
7. Quiet Village - Pillow Talk
8. Flash And The Pan - Hole In The Middle
9. James Gang - The Bomber
10. ZZ Top - El Diablo
11. Toy - Suspiscion
12. Small faces - Odgen's Nut Gone Flake
13. Animated Egg - Sock in My Way
14. Chairman of the Board - Life and Death

bmus, Friday, 20 August 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link

he's also got one on http://www.lovefingers.org/. i forget what it sounds like now though.
Dirk (Eskimo Recordings) : Summer Of Love '69

jaxon, Friday, 20 August 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Plaxico: I had the same revelatory experience with the Martyn toob. I had Solid Air a little while ago but didn't get too blown away by it, but I'm loving the stuff from One World. Have you explored the live/bootlegs from the 70s/80s at all? I recently grabbed Live at Leeds, Live in Milan (bad sound on this one), and One Other World. I think One Other World is my fave. Be interested to know if anyone else has listened to/found other live stuff that is great.

barry leavitt, Saturday, 21 August 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link

tbh, i had dled one other world by mistake and only realised it wasn't one world when i got went looking for a higher bitrate!

plax (ico), Saturday, 21 August 2010 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^
Misread that as 'thought I had died....etc' and the whole sentence seemed unimaginably cosmic in its significance

sonofstan, Saturday, 21 August 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm really enjoying this thread. Seriously.

chromecassettes, Saturday, 21 August 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

he's also got one on http://www.lovefingers.org/. i forget what it sounds like now though.
Dirk (Eskimo Recordings) : Summer Of Love '69

― jaxon, Friday, 20 August 2010 19:04 (2 days ago)

http://alainfinkielkrautrock.blogspot.com/2007/05/dirk-summer-of-love-69-mix.html

The Free > Living In The Sunshine
Cane & Able > Girl You Move Me
Super Sessions > Stop
The Alan Bown Set >
The Pretty Things > Cries From The Midnight Circle
Spooky Tooth > Waitin’ for the wind
Mystic Moods > Cosmic Sea
The Music Machine > Common In
The Kinks > Big Sky
M*A*S*H* > Suicide Is Painless
Blue Oyster Cult > Don’t Fear The Reaper
May Blitz > Smoking The Day Away
Brethren > Success Brand Oil
Brian Auger’s Oblivian Express > Freedom Jazz Dance
Booker T & The Mgs > Eleonar Rigby
The Small Faces > Song Of A Baker
The Birds > Draft Morning
The Allman Brothers > Dreams
Tim Buckley > Sweet Surender

groovypanda, Sunday, 22 August 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Cale was briefly mentioned upthread but.... Probably you will have to replace "beach" with "desert" for this one to fit the equation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G_msX9iHwg&feature=related

barry leavitt, Saturday, 4 September 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Anyone heard this Alan White album?
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/a/alan-white/album-ramshackled.jpg
I dl'ed "Ooh Baby" from a blog awhile ago and it fits the bill nicely

barry leavitt, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, that track is on the purple brain comp, and it's awesome haven't heard the album

mizzell, Monday, 20 September 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

YESSSS

http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/products/NedDoheny-HardCandy-Columbia-74801.html

blank, Friday, 1 April 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

haha my friend dropped $130 on a copy of the original a few months ago

gr8080, Sunday, 3 April 2011 06:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i made this when i was bored one day. it didnt get me a 60 day ban
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eNoDKVRNoI

gr8080, Sunday, 3 April 2011 06:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Can't really put into words how much I love this tune. It captures the spirit and the essence of own trips to Hawaii and Beverly Hills/L.A. etc, during the first year of Clinton's presidency - so, the good old days, already! (I'm not from North America.. )
DeerStop69 4 months ago

gr8080, Sunday, 3 April 2011 06:31 (thirteen years ago) link

such a jam. was this ever a radio hit? i don't recall ever hearing it on the radio but every time i play it for people they end up singing along and i can't tell if it's a weird thing where the song is just really hooky or if it's legitimately popular and i'm just oblivious

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 April 2011 07:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I love Give it up for Love!! I also love Ned's first self titled record. I didn't know his records were so rare until a few years ago. I bought them cheaply back in 03 in Houston,TX at a shop called Black Dog records.

JacobSanders, Sunday, 3 April 2011 09:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Is Doheny's the original version of that song? I think I've got about four different versions of it, none of them this one.

groovypanda, Monday, 4 April 2011 08:28 (thirteen years ago) link

doheny's is the original, there's a version by tata vega on motown that was a big deal iirc. that was the first version i heard (it is awesome) but i like both. i forget who did the other big cover of it

timbo slice (D-40), Monday, 4 April 2011 08:30 (thirteen years ago) link

I've got the Tata Vega one and also ones by Average White Band and Social Disco Club

groovypanda, Monday, 4 April 2011 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the other cover version i have is by The Mob ... as featured on Bill Brewster's "Secret Weapons" cd

out comes stanley, Monday, 4 April 2011 11:06 (thirteen years ago) link

the other cover version i have is by The Mob ... as featured on Bill Brewster's "Secret Weapons" cd

I knew I had a fourth version! If I remember though there's no tracklisting with that Bill Brewster bonus cd although I think I've identified most of them.

groovypanda, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:03 (thirteen years ago) link

ave white band yeah thats the other ive heard

timbo slice (D-40), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:18 (thirteen years ago) link

$130!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:22 (thirteen years ago) link

what can i say? sometimes things slip by me. i'm only human. when did ned become hip with the beardo set? total dollar bin fare for years.

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link

i put ned on my sexy sailor mix a few years back and i also did a list of similar albums that i like that people here might want to check out. i'll post my post here. not ALL appropriate for this thread, but the vibes are somewhat similar in many cases:

Skot's Sexy 70's Mix For Sailors, Searchers, and Seers

Just the tip of the iceberg, but I made a quick list of underheard albums that I go back to again and again for whatever reason. Some apply to this mix/thread, some don’t, but whatever. I’ve also talked a bunch about most of them on ilm or included them on a mix that I’ve posted here. These are all a part of my 70’s non-hard rock rock canon. didn’t include more obvious stuff. In 2009, my holy trinity would probably be ian matthews, michael franks, and poco! Who would have guessed? I used to listen to a lot of crass records. Anyway, for what it’s worth:

Allesi – s/t (a&m – 1976) (probably my favorite brothers of the 70’s. or maybe that title goes to the gurvitz brothers. can’t decide.)
curved air – phantasmagoria (wb – 1972) (really, everything by them in the 70’s. like babe ruth. or savage rose.)
curtiss maldoon – s/t (capitol – 1971)
jackson heights – king progress (mercury – 1970)
howard werth & the moonbeams – king brilliant (mca – 1975)
vance or towers – s/t (a&m – 1975)
gary farr – addressed to the censors of love (atco – 1973)
danny o’keefe – breezy stories (atlantic – 1973)
string driven thing – the machine that cried (charisma – 1973)
east of eden – s/t (harvest – 1971)
molkie cole – s/t (janus – 1977)
bloomsbury people – s/t (mgm – 1970)
redeye – s/t (pentagram – 1970)
danny o’keefe – american roulette (wb – 1977) (hell, really everything from the 70’s.)
trefethen – am I stupid or am I great?/it’s all mom’s fault (1980) (recorded in the 70’s though.)
gallagher & lyle – the last cowboy (a&m – 1974)
john randolph marr – s/t (wb – 1970) (also, bubba fowler’s album *and then came bubba*, but I think that might have been 69 or even 68. can’t remember. The marr album is essential for nilsson fans.)
country joe mcdonald – hold on it’s coming (vanguard – 1970) (i can’t even begin to describe how much I love this album. it is the end and the beginning of something wonderful. )
song – album (mgm – 1970) (essential.)
cowboy – s/t (Capricorn – 1977) (again, who am I kidding? I love everything they ever did. Possibly one of the top ten most underrated/underheard major label acts of all time.)
boxer – s/t (virgin – 1975)
george geddes – obituary (ua – 1971) (but, you know, everyone needs son of obituary from 1972 too.)
thomas jefferson kaye – s/t (dunhill – 1973)
mckendree spring – s/t (decca – 1969) (oops, 1969. But you can substitute it with *3* or *tracks* from the early 70’s.)
facedancers – s/t (paramount – 1972)
barnaby bye – room to grow (atlantic – 1973)
dane donohue – s/t (Columbia – 1978)
tim hardin – painted head (Columbia – 1972) (one of my heroes, and his 70’s stuff doesn’t get near enough praise. And it’s all worth people’s time. )
tim hollier – message to a harlequin (imperial – 1968) (1968? but it’s so good. and I can’t find a copy of skysail from 1971 and I can’t afford a copy of his 1970 s/t album which is also awesome.)
dave morgan - morgan (ampex – 1971)
mick greenwood – living game (mca – 1971)

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:58 (thirteen years ago) link

i should really do an updated list too. heard so much great stuff since then.

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 12:59 (thirteen years ago) link

quick you can still buy dane donohue and jess roden albums for five bucks on ebay get them while you can!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeSeAem7PDw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKiNX1ChHo&feature=related

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:12 (thirteen years ago) link

gr8080 is your youtube clip comprised of "people who've figured out how to live" photos?

Tim F, Monday, 4 April 2011 13:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Scott I would like an updated list.

JacobSanders, Monday, 4 April 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i'll see what i can come up with.

scott seward, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

there's a pretty great soundtrack to They Call It An Accident. it has a few wally badarou tracks, a few steve winwood instrumentals, a track by marianne faithful from her broken english album, a song by Compass Point All Stars (badarou & sly & robbie). jess roden & peter wood have a track on there called "Some Vision". i guess this is their band?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUaNpVesezQ

jaxon, Monday, 4 April 2011 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link

^ this stdk sounds excellent. have you seen it around anywhere?

i love that mark e edit of the tata vega version

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 06:53 (thirteen years ago) link

it's not even close to as good as the actual tata vega or the doheny but it's definitely worthwhile

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 06:54 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc theo p did an edit of the vega too

timbo slice (D-40), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 23:42 (thirteen years ago) link

gr8080 is your youtube clip comprised of "people who've figured out how to live" photos?

― Tim F, Monday, April 4, 2011 3:16 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark

just my favorite photos from alohafriday.org

but to answer your question: probably!

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 07:43 (thirteen years ago) link

gr8mix

http://www.mysterymix.com/mp3/TuTu_Mix.mp3

Crackle Box, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:57 (thirteen years ago) link

ha scott there are a number of bars in london where yr mixes get played pretty regularly. hope this is ok :)

Crackle Box, Friday, 8 April 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

cool! i wish i could get it together to make more. if i do upload more they will go on the vinyl board.

scott seward, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

i never read that board so bump one of the old threads when you do

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrYT4Ut3dtY

Sort of fits here, I think....

I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Sunday, 17 April 2011 12:42 (thirteen years ago) link

this recently got reissued on 4 men w/ beards and is the bee's knees

http://www.arthurmag.com/magpie/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/stormbringer.jpg

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Sunday, 17 April 2011 13:29 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZuepQ0mFt0

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

also, can a mod find the image that's asking for a password in this thread? it's kinda annoying

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

the best part about beardo/balearic (as mentioned above), but also what adds to the confusion of what it is, is that you can make anything that has a certain vibe fit the genre. like this chill soul tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxc8Sf7RaYY

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

draggjn my heels has been my mellow morning tune of choice for the last few weeks

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Monday, 18 April 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

what about 'draggin the line'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skydln4BhDI

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

this has been my jam lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94x4Ezs_OVM&feature=related

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

woah that is awesome

2㋡㋡9 style (gr8080), Monday, 18 April 2011 21:52 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAP9qFHj6jE&feature=share

jaxon, Monday, 18 April 2011 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

do you want to have kids?

2㋡㋡9 style (gr8080), Monday, 18 April 2011 23:18 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kxuAZictJ4

2㋡㋡9 style (gr8080), Monday, 18 April 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

that nina version of 'baltimore' is a classic, first heard it on npr lol

i like this version a lot too tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3lttEUZbK8

D-40, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

surprised no one's mentioned Eden Ahbez, the original Beardo beach bum proto-hippie (he looked like this in the late 40s)

http://i637.photobucket.com/albums/uu92/damien_stone/edensisland.jpg

album is languid exotica with ambient beach sounds and Eden's spoken word extolling the Nature Boy way of life, the balearic urtext.

also, i passed out to John Martyn's 'Glorious Fool' the other night, the tracks I heard before sleep were gorgeous. don't let the 'Produced by Phil Collins' credit scare you off, it's a sign of quality.

herbal bert (herb albert), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^^^
Yes. The version of "Couldn't love you more" (first track I think) gets nice and balearic if you pitch it up

Bangelo, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm interested in more sunny soul tunes, this is an obvious one that may or may not have already been mentioned:

http://youtu.be/M36OGCfYp3A

i guess "be thankful for what you've got" also fits this sub-category

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and that youtube link is roy ayers, didn't mean to post it that way.

that psychemagik mix they're talking about on the nu-balearic thread is full of this type of stuff

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

ha, i'm wondering what kind of machine dane donohue put the title tracks from gaucho and aja through to make that thing scott posted up there

dell (del), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 15:58 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7f4BHHcW10&feature=youtu.be

D-40, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link

don't let the 'Produced by Phil Collins' credit scare you off, it's a sign of quality.

― herbal bert (herb albert), Tuesday, April 19, 2011 11:04 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark

i want to hear this now. is there much drum machine/synth stuff?

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Thursday, 21 April 2011 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

More latter than former, if I remember correctly? Still very much has the mark of early 80’s Phil. Tuff drum sounds. Textural vocoder. Etc.

Bangelo, Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, not really new wave but it has Phil on drums and the bassman plays a Chapman Stick and it's 1981 so has that 80s modern sound of Abacab, Face Value, Discipline, Security et al. higly recommended (esp for $1)

herbal bert (herb albert), Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:15 (thirteen years ago) link

it's a beautiful album. def recommended. if you want full on balearic smoothness, check out Sapphire. i had it for one day, thought it was great and then dropped and chipped it and haven't been able to find it again.

jaxon, Thursday, 21 April 2011 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

cool, I'll def grab it if I see it about. i'm going through a bit of a John Martyn phase atm, Stormbringer! and One World getting a lot of play time

ur reading from a season in hell but u don't know what it's abt (missingNO), Friday, 22 April 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link

while i love Bless the Weather through Insides Out, i find that i reach for One World most often. will have to seek out Glorious Fool and Sapphire now.

beta blog, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link

BiS episode with Jonny Nash back in Januray finished with this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySmRL-Ey8mE

which i swear to god i heard in a movie i saw recently but I cant remember what

gr8080, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:33 (thirteen years ago) link

i put a track from that on one of my ilx mixes. can't remember which one.

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:51 (thirteen years ago) link

was it that same song?

gr8080, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link

this one:


Macondo - Do It To Me

Francisco - Heal Yourself

Abe & Malka - Silver's Really Grey

Laurin Rinder & W. Michael Lewis - Anger

Neil Merryweather - Sunshine Superman

Smokey Robinson - Theme From Big Time

Jackson Heights - Sunshine Freak

Barrabas - Mr.Money

Michael Franks - Born With The Moon In Virgo

Don Fardon - Belfast Boy

Morning Glory - Even When I'm Up I'm Down

The Hues Corporation - All Goin' Down Together

Red Rhodes - Lunar Nova

Scott Bradford - Essential Horror

The Face Dancers - Let The Music Set You Free

Tropea - Tambourine

Spread Eagle - Piece Of Paper

The Turtles - Hot Little Hands

Charlie D & Milo - Om Sweet Om

― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, January 9, 2007 5:50 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe thats just where i remember it from. could have sworn it was a movie though.

gr8080, Friday, 22 April 2011 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

coulda been. that's a good album.

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

been digging this album today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0bDFiWS0oQ&feature=related

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link

please forgive my lack of balearic-ness. i don't really know what the hell is going on here.

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

love this one too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_y_kmmVJnQ&feature=related

scott seward, Friday, 22 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

new track that totally fits this vibe. starts w/a CSNY vibe. drums kick in half way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0UpGDQxqB8

jaxon, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 22:13 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Does Peter Green's "Little Dreamer" fit into this beach balearic category? I'm really loving this track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94x4Ezs_OVM

van smack, Thursday, 26 May 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link

Does anyone know if that Ned Doheny reissue is legit or not as Bill Brewster and some of the others over on DJHistory are suggesting it's just a bootleg?

groovypanda, Friday, 27 May 2011 08:11 (twelve years ago) link

fuck yes @ that peter green-- was that on a skotrok mix? i know ive heard it on a mix somewhere

gr8080, Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

i put it at the end of one of my mixes
http://www.cosmicdisco.co.uk/2010/07/cosmic-disco-is-4/

and it was also lovefinger's farewell track

jaxon, Saturday, 4 June 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gC24OoIwwg

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

something new for the canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmGXs5U6l0

mizzell, Friday, 12 August 2011 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

New Seahawks album coming soon, according to Phonica.

lol is not enough (blank), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

^ i saw that! tho it seems like they are constantly updating the soundcloud with new and dl-able tracks

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link

Oh sweet! Thx for the tip.

lol is not enough (blank), Friday, 12 August 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link

ahhh that Johnathan Wilson is great-- how's the rest of his stuff?

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:11 (twelve years ago) link

also sorry my Santana video is more "beardo disco" but that thread's all new releases lately so i came here

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Friday, 12 August 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

i've only heard two jonathan wilson tracks, other one not as good. his album comes out in september. he jams with all kinds of classic rock dudes, plus vetiver and the guy from black crowes.

mizzell, Friday, 12 August 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

here's the other one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix4bFtMhJ8I

mizzell, Friday, 12 August 2011 02:26 (twelve years ago) link

the only track on spotify is a madonna cover lol

( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Friday, 12 August 2011 02:51 (twelve years ago) link

this is not too far from zero 7 at this point

moonship journey to baja, Friday, 12 August 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

the only track on spotify is a madonna cover lol

― ( •ิ.•ั) (gr8080), Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:51 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha, i saw this today somewhere, couldn't tell if it was the same guy or not. this is some other jw The Jonathan Wilson Archive

mizzell, Friday, 12 August 2011 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

"at this point"

max, Friday, 12 August 2011 04:05 (twelve years ago) link

six months pass...

i've been obsessed with this Kourosh reissue from last year for the past couple of weeks. i think it fits here, but you know, iranian.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl_BtpesbjU
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0d8GJssi0U

mizzell, Monday, 27 February 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link

er sorry can't tell if those links work or not, but they are the songs dar enteha and ashiooneh.

mizzell, Monday, 27 February 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

This thread is astonishing... Days and days worth of material and food for thought to immerse myself in. The first song that sprung to mind part of the way through the thread was this one, although this is perhaps a little more melancholic than much of this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-PVWrjAdQ0

Clarke B., Tuesday, 28 February 2012 02:56 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe too on the nose but whatever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr6H7dynyLo&

Deverly (Bangelo), Saturday, 3 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

cecilio & kapono are playing at my work this week!

⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

so many broken youtube links itt that its a tragedy.

someone post some youtube links today.

♆ (gr8080), Monday, 4 June 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i'm in to this lately

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tVVWn2wMgY

♆ (gr8080), Friday, 22 June 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

From Nightlife! Think Lizzy's most underrated album!

Austin, Friday, 22 June 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link

made a new mix that draws a lot from this thread

http://soundcloud.com/gradydj/808-mixtapes-vol-4

Ned Doheney - Get It Up For Love
Vangelis - Let It Happen/The City
Clout - Sunshine Baby
Nina Simone - Baltimore
Brightblack Morning Light - Everybody Daylight
Gabor Szabo - The Lady In The Moon
Black Sabbath - Laguna Sunrise
Jonathan Jeremiah - Happiness (Quiet Village Remix)
Dorothy Ashby - The Moving Finger
Jan Hammer Group - Don't You Know
J.J. Cale - Durango
Dr. John - I Walk On Gilded Splinters
Agitation Free - First Communication
Peter Green - Little Dreamer
David Crosby - I'd Swear There Was Somebody Here
Fleetwood Mac - Albatross
George Duke - North Beach
Jonathan Wilson - Desert Raven
Harry Nilsson - Everybody's Talkin'

♆ (gr8080), Saturday, 30 June 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

so many broken youtube links itt that its a tragedy.

someone post some youtube links today.

This

groovypanda, Thursday, 25 October 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

this is the kind of music that saves lives

Andrew Sandwich, Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link

the bass on "Cowboy Movie" is fAAT

Andrew Sandwich, Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eRY5QG3yo

Andrew Sandwich, Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:57 (ten years ago) link

Iasos?
http://youtu.be/UlUKbyLm-qE

I expect the forthcoming 'I Am The Centre' collection of private-press New Age synth on Light In The Attic will be a perfect fit for a rum-guzzling beach soiree.

MarcoDisko, Sunday, 20 October 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link

honest question: so is there a meaning of "balearic" that is any more precise then just "beach and sun-inspired"? b/c it seems like it's applied to anything from "if only i could remember my name" to sunny LA 70s pop to like, lindstrom or neon indian or ibiza dance music

marcos, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

That's the joy of it maaaaaaaaaaaan. Its a 'vibe' yo.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

balearic refers to a style of djjing practiced by djs in mid-late80s mediterranean. midtempo club music with flamenco guitars, evocative of beaches. Think "sue o latino".

see: http://www.discogs.com/Various-Classic-Balearic-Mastercuts-Volume-1/release/144535

brimstead, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

i guess in the context of this thread it means "mellow open minded 70s rock that may have come out of LA"

brimstead, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link

think "la isla bonita", that's basically balearic beat gone mainstream

brimstead, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

(Or 'balearic style song everyone would know')

brimstead, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link

I know there's loads of John Martyn in this thread but this is like the most Balearic song ever recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgHGRtFcGME

Matt DC, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

"honest question"

maybe read the threads?

zvookster, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

one world is a great alb

max, Monday, 21 October 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

"honest question"

maybe read the threads?

― zvookster, Monday, October 21, 2013 2:55 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i.e. read 15 threads and 2000 posts to see that the term is applied to strikingly different kinds of music? sorry i'd prefer to just ask the question

marcos, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link

uh the term "balearic" was not invented by this message board

brimstead, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

really

zvookster, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link

if you have to ask you'll never know http://i.imgur.com/zi7hd.gif

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 21 October 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

here's what Dictionary.app (Free with all copies of OSX, an operating system for Macintosh computers) says:

Balearic |ˌbalɪˈarɪk, bəˈlɪərɪk|
adjective
relating to the Balearic Islands: the Balearic government.
• relating to or denoting a style of synthesized dance music that developed in Ibiza: the Balearic beat.
ORIGIN from Latin Balearis + -ic.

乒乓, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link

^^ so the fact that there's standard definition of "balearic" that includes ibizan dance music means that somehow it's not okay to ask a music message board why the term is applied to tons of totally different music?

marcos, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link

sorry i just didn't anticipate snark to what i thought was a fair question

marcos, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

it's ILM there's no escaping snark

the late great, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

don't harsh the vibe, chill bros

brand nubian wafers (bnw), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link

iziba dance music is tons of totally different music, is the pt

rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link

why the term is applied to tons of totally different music?

because 'balearic' djs play different styles of records

also it's confusing because it gets (mis)applied to hairy nu-disco dudes (lindstrom) and chillwave/indie rock (neon indian)

brimstead, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link

sorry
Let's all dance to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14DP6vxInQA

brimstead, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link

all john martyn albums are the best

caek, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:59 (ten years ago) link

That Jerry Williams is fantastic. just what i needed right now down to the title of the track. thx

oscar, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link

all john martyn albums are the best

― caek, Monday, October 21, 2013 8:59 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nah but he had a lot of greats.

Me & Mahomies (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link

Replace "Balearic" with "goth" and see if the idea of multiple strands of music sharing the same unified ~vibe~ is still confusing.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 08:53 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1CY3TVQdWs

cog, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 09:58 (ten years ago) link

xp balearic is probs the most nebulous/numinous instance tbfttl... certainly a game i've never quite got the hang of anyway

r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 10:02 (ten years ago) link

lol

Luigi Nono le petit robot, actually, saves Christmas (seandalai), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link

djhistory's 100 best balearic tracks on spotify: http://open.spotify.com/user/fingermag/playlist/1S4X40YzybVNS3KrHqPel5

― max, Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:55 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link

i like that jerry williams album a bunch.

scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

my hero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz8RN9mCfWg

scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdrH944IIxc

scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

leon lowman compilation from last year on music from memory is an all-around solid listen, surprised i haven't seen it mentioned in any EOY reissue lists. i think this is the most well-known track but seriously check out the whole damn thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xO9RKQgxBw

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 14 January 2014 23:57 (ten years ago) link

yes, good album

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 15 January 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

did you like the spike album, psych?

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 15 January 2014 00:34 (ten years ago) link

the snippets i've heard, yes! i keep forgetting to seek out a copy, seems like it should have some serious appeal beyond the types of people that usually spring for golf channel stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FoDiIck060

(^just to make it easy for lazy people like myself)

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

i guess spike is beardo but beyond that i really don't know how i'd categorize what he does. power pop? what i've heard is very rundgren, but fuzzier and more excited to just vibe out for a while

hug niceman (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 15 January 2014 00:55 (ten years ago) link

yeah, it's like minimal synth kraut power pop, lol

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 15 January 2014 01:03 (ten years ago) link

all with that warm hazy lo-fi production style, really nice

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 15 January 2014 01:04 (ten years ago) link

sounds like I need that in my life

Number None, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 01:06 (ten years ago) link

spike is the bomb

the late great, Wednesday, 15 January 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...
eleven months pass...

i cant remember if this album was ever discussed itt or any other thread:

http://i.imgur.com/ExYUOys.jpg

but its been going for $100+ lately and is finally getting a re-press

http://bewithrecords.com/product/nohelani-cypriano-nohelani-lp-180gram-bewith008lp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE1mwfX_5EY

gr8080, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link

wow!

example (crüt), Friday, 19 June 2015 15:25 (eight years ago) link

"Lihue" is a classic for sure. Never knew the rest of her stuff was so feted, though. Not really feeling the other soundclips on that link, tbh.

Michael F Gill, Saturday, 20 June 2015 02:39 (eight years ago) link

really? not even "livin' without you"? that's a real pretty song IMO.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 20 June 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link

when i was in hawaii about a decade ago, there were a few stations that still played a lot of local music, and more broadly a kind of hawaiian pop-music that included both hawaiian music like nohelani but also some "island-flavored" music of all kinds. was very refreshing to hear that unfamiliar mix of stuff (which still had plenty of familiar elements), speaking as someone from the 48 states.

i wonder how distinctive the musical culture of hawaii is today, and whether it's bucked the monoculture to any greater extent than most places.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 20 June 2015 03:25 (eight years ago) link

if you like this stuff you should check out the aloha got soul DJs (google it)

the late great, Saturday, 20 June 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

here : http://alohagotsoul.com/category/dj-mixes/

the late great, Saturday, 20 June 2015 03:30 (eight years ago) link

I have a vinyl rip of that album, let me know through email if you want the files...

skip, Saturday, 20 June 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

i like a lot of stuff mentioned in this thread but like some other folks i'm a little confused as to what the parameters of this expanded notion of "balearic" are or why we need this enlarged category.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 20 June 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

this is what contemporary Hawaiian pop music sounds like mostly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5GUczT1vY

gr8080, Sunday, 21 June 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

god bless this thread for leading me to Andreas Vollenweider's "AIR". this is like *just* what i needed in my life right now.

Heez, Sunday, 21 June 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

i also like that i can imagine richard simmons lulling me into blissful dreams.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5150UZ8NtZL.jpg

Heez, Sunday, 21 June 2015 22:26 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

This is good, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q00DOL2svl8&ab_channel=Drbellotus

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q00DOL2svl8&ab_channel=Drbellotus

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

Ah well. http://youtu.be/q00DOL2svl8

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 September 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

John Cale's Brian ode "Mr. Wilson" is smoother than a lot of his 70s, but intense, rolling through the deeps: I'd like to live in the strings break for a while...
funky 10CC Reminds me: a friend mentioned seeing Carlos Santana getting way into "I'm Not in Love." Will have to look for that.
Jimi's Rainbow Bridge soundtrack is fine as shroom wine---"Pali Grap" is one of my all-time faves, can imagine David Mancuso playing it at the Loft of Spiritual Discovery (I also have danced to it, I think)(Also watch the movie, incl. hashish in surfboards in Hawaii, where Jimi speaks of space brothers, before playing for them and Earth):

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Tjqw7T00L._SL1500_.jpg

dow, Friday, 11 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Amusing to see doheny’s “get it up for love” on this thread years before it’s yacht rock revival

calstars, Saturday, 12 September 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

Does gr80 still post on ilx?

calstars, Saturday, 12 September 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

djhistory's 100 best balearic tracks on spotify: http://open.spotify.com/user/fingermag/playlist/1S4X40YzybVNS3KrHqPel5

― max, Saturday, July 30, 2011 6:55 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:58 AM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Most of the tracks on here are still available (for me, in canada),still a great mix

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 12 September 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link

Oh cool, thanks!
First tyme I saw this thread's title, I thought of Lindstrøm & Prins Thomas.

dow, Saturday, 12 September 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

The title of this doc doesn't inspire confidence, and I dimly recall finding RB entertaining enough, one way or another, but yknow more music so I'll prob check it out too, at least the audio version:
Music, Money, Madness... Jimi Hendrix In Maui
Experience Hendrix and Legacy Recordings announce a brand new feature length documentary Music, Money, Madness... Jimi Hendrix In Maui with the accompanying live performances on both audio and video.

Incorporating never-before-released original film footage and new interviews, the film chronicles the Jimi Hendrix Experience’s storied 1970 visit to Maui, and how the band became ensnared with the ill-fated Rainbow Bridge movie.

The deluxe Blue-ray and 2CD or 3LP collections will be released on November 20 and are available for pre-order now with exclusive merch bundles available at the Authentic Hendrix Store.

The video and audio for “Voodoo Child (Slight Return)” from this historic concert is available today on digital services.

dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

this is getting reissued soon and the vocals are too over the top terrible for me but the instrumental tracks are quite nice

https://youtu.be/owqyDufJ05s

the late great, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

funny to see the rainbow bridge soundtrack ... chuck wein used to be a fixture at the cafe I hung out at every day 2000-2004. nice guy but he would go on ...

the late great, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, think he was around the Factory too, maybe trying to get some Daddy Warhol bucks for this or other flick---didn't Lou Reed say he was the Chuck in "Wild Child"?
I was talkin' to Chuck in his Genghis Khan suit
And his wizard's hat
He spoke of his movie and how he was makin' a new sound track
And then we spoke of kids on the coast
And different types of organic soap
And the way suicides don't leave notes,
Then we spoke of Loraine, always back to Lorraine

dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

you all might be interested in this quasi-Balearic type playlist I made https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ODDwMMpnatOm0LrKhJN8M?si=QC4yvr-lQN2KRUrR1cE4QQ

Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

that djhistory playlist contains so many of my favourite songs which I didn't for a second think of as "Balearic"

Leighton Buzzword (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

im still kinda amazed that the dude from Empire of the Sun put out one of the best dreamy/funky Fleetwood Mac/buckingham rips of last decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCQ_7BQla4

brimstead, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

xp. balearic must be the fuzziest genre term ever by its very nature

rascal clobber (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

I mean yeah, that playlist has pretty much no througline whatsoever

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

xxp tbh it's more kenny loggins

brimstead, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

i think that djhistory list just reflects how it was more an approach to djing than a solid "genre" or whatever, like 'rare groove' etc, a focused eclecticism (ugh sorry), idk

brimstead, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

I don’t agree theres “no throughline”

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link

There's totally a throughline.

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

If people are still going "lol what's a balearic", this piece I wrote more than 12 (!) years ago is probably still my take:

https://www.idolator.com/371805/mungolian-jet-sets-ostentatious-folk-rock-jazz-disco-and-the-return-of-balaeric

Tim F, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link

This has been playing in a local cafe recently and I had to ask them what it was, its pretty vibey hats off to them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40vnfkuetog

saer, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:25 (three years ago) link

The piano break in Magic Man is so reminiscent of one of those loft records but I'll never remember what

saer, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link

That Riney album sounds like sped-up vaporwave

calstars, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link

Still love that MJS album Tim xps

Seem to remember seeing a social media post from them recently that looked like they were working on some new stuff

groovypanda, Friday, 18 September 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Maybe I'll have more luck pushing this here than on the Soviet Pop thread, although I think it would get my desultory ass out of the hammock for a late summer boogie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrelzl_FEaU

Noel Emits, Thursday, 26 August 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link

I was at the beach in Vama Veche today, which AFAICT is Romania's beardo hippie nudist mecca, and I started reaching the conclusion that there is actually a balearic cover version out there for every song. This was after hearing the balearic "no rain" (blind melon) followed by balearic "paranoid" (sabbath).

enochroot, Thursday, 26 August 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link

Sounds weird but hot

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 27 August 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

pretty sure beyondmintvinyls has a copy for sale

davey, Saturday, 28 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/beyondmintvinyls/

davey, Saturday, 28 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

“As the 5AM city sleeps and the strobe lights are slowly turned off, we gather on the wrong side of town in a transcendental journey alone together. We are the late night disenfranchised holding on in various after parties, flats, lofts, random kitchens and basements into the outer cosmos with É Soul Cultura. Music from exotic tear jerkers, Afro-spiritual jazz, cosmic Brazilian celestial grooves, machine street soul, dark horses, lost B-sides, £1 bargain-bin bombs, hidden gems, late night Italo dubbing, deep velvet N.Y.C garage, bass buggin sonic futurism, wrong speed 33BPM pitched up +8 new beat, majestic sunset strings, sweet vocals from heaven, no half steppin jazz dancing in outer-space and odd numbers. Yes… magical moments, together, holding on in witness protection suburban cul-de-sacs and Castle Court flats. Cosmic É high, 3000ft above the city getting evangelical to murky, wonky timeless beautiful music. This thing of ours dreaming of better days. Fail we may, sail we must, the sun will come up again.”

https://mrbongo.bandcamp.com/album/luke-una-presents-soul-cultura

gr8080, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link


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